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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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now at patreon dot com. Slash Jenkins and Jones Game five.
John's eyes are gonna roll out of his head.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just you you you you brought something to my
attention that I could not even fathom.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Though I could not, I couldn't even we get we
can we can just jump into that part of the comvo,
because I know it's if people have been chewing the
fuck out of this, like flopping and all this stuff
for the whole playoffs and everything.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Okay, I made the comment to John that the thunder
are flopping in specific ways for specific reps, and he
made the comment to me that I was a conspiracy
theorist for viewing them as taking it that far. And
I realize part of why John and I have had
a little bit of a disconnect on this issue is

(00:51):
I think you are not aware of how nasty the
sport that we love has gotten to the extent that
there's a whole YouTube break downs on players knowing how
to take advantage of ref blind spots screening the ref
being a legitimate quote unquote legitimate coached basketball tactic of

(01:13):
getting in the way of a ref and an action
so that when a player is selling a foul, the
ref does not see the full what happened. They just
see the player, you know, being dramatic about it or whatever,
to the extent that in the NFHS in high school nationally,
you can get teed up for if you are screening
a ref and the ref can tell that all you're

(01:34):
trying to do is fuck with their siteline you're not
involved in an actual basketball player, they can give you
a technical foul because that's how common it is now
for people on all levels to try and game shit.
And I'm telling y'all, I said it on this pod.
It didn't really mess with me that much. Seeing little
kids like in the level that I coach at taking
threes like Steph Curry. What messed with me is everyone

(01:57):
does that shit where they go into contact and they
do that ah ah everyone everyone eour year olds do
that shit.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
John.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
I just feel like, like the game that I grew
up playing that is so.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Bitch made.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Like we spent time working on our actual game hoops,
being better at basketball, finishing through contact, finishing through contact,
going everybody with the pest and working on our skills,
like things to make our much, make us better at
playing basketball. We're not spending time that.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
We could be doing playing the game that we love,
that we actually enjoy, strategizing to manipulate the reps, thinking
about sight lines, Like I couldn't imagine being in a
game in competition and instead of trying to get a
bucket or setting up a play, running some old you know,

(02:59):
locking down on d I'm like, in this situation.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
It would be beneficial for me to be a bitch.
I can't imagine that there's no time, No, no, seriously,
no no, no, no, no, no, I'm dead serious.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Like I can't imagine being in the paint fighting for
a rebound like you said, Kobe, Kobe, you said there
said Kobe talking about this.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But also Kobe fought on the fucking court, you know
what I'm saying, Like we were fighting for rebounds, fighting
for position, not fighting for position to do some whole
shit draw fout, fight for a position to get the
motherfucking rock man the fuck up flex on this, nigga,
drop your nuts. Not oh you text me, oh you

(03:45):
rendered me helpless?

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Shut the fuck up. Nigga.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Don't you said you got kids kill the watching your
lady watching you. You said yourself to me like a bitch,
that's crazy. I love Jared McCain like I fucked with
the nigga. You feel me like my susch king, that's
my nigga. I fuck with that nigga for real. You
know I love such shit. I love that shiit nigga.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Hey, do that.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Motherfucking danced like, teach me your ways, nigga. I'm trying
my niggas uncomfortable like that. Hell yeah, I love that
type shit, you know what I'm saying. But like for
him to get by somebody position himself, took the tanker
and then just collapse.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Like a Hey, let that bitch fly.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I know you love a game that's nasty
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