February 27, 2026 • 33 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (02/27) - Mark Thompson fills in for John! Royal Oakes comes on the show to talk about former Pres. Bill Clinton's deposition regarding Jeffrey Epstein and LAUSD Superintendent Alberto Carvalho being placed on paid administrative leave. The Pentagon is in a standoff with an AI company. TSA workers are working without pay still. US Embassy personal in Jerusalem have been told to leave the country due to a possible Iran strike.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel
podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
A lot of breaking news today. We'll get to some
of it, and we'll welcome in Royal Oaks on the
issue of Carvallo and the superintendent of la USD now
being placed on administrative leap haid leave, and I'll start there,
and then I want to pivot to the Clintons in
the Epstein situation. But Royal welcome and wonder what you
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can add to this situation.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, first I have to say, Mark, it's always pleasure
to talk to you, but I'm not going to interrupt
you because I heard what happened to Mark a few
minutes ago when she when she broke in and you
were talking about and you really give it, so man,
I'm just going to wait and tell the question. Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now, you felt I was too heavy handed in my
in my treatment of Deborah when she interrupted me when
I was I was laying down a yarn, I was
trying to tell a story.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I was trying to stick to the landing and she
interrupted me.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, bad for her. You know what, Royal I.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Work with John Cobel, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's right, I compared to co Bell. Yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So here's the deal. Yeah, the breaking news. As Debra said,
I mean we've been wondering, you know, what's he you know,
done wrong? If anything? Is he really a target or
they just want to look at his laptop as somebody
else in trouble but not so much him. Well, the
deal is, uh, the governmental entity, like the school board,
they have a right under the rules to say, hmmm,
until things settle, you're going to be you know, out
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out of the office. It's for the integrity of the office,
to promote confidence among taxpayers. It's a little different mark
for private employees, you know, they have more like First
Amendment rights, like hey, you know one of my chopped
livery here. Not only have I not been convicted, I
have not been charged. We don't even know if they're
going to charge me. So Cavallo doesn't have the same
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rights as other folks. So he's going to have to
be on the bench for a while, not helping the
kids get through K twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So as long as you're paying the person in this case,
the superintendent, you're okay. If they were to say we're
suspending him without pay. Then you'd have a legal problem.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, well, depending on the nuts and bolts and the
fine print and the contract. From his standpoint, whether he
gets paid or not, it's a lose situation because you know,
if you're told stay home, everybody in the county is saying, oh, well,
he must be guilty, And of course that isn't necessarily true,
but you know, it helps for them to say, hey,
you are going to give you, give you the money.
Of course, you know, when my teachers are used to
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doing horrible things, but we can't fire them because of
some rules, they go to the rubber room and they
get paid. So you know, you may get paid. But
his main job, I think is what's clear the name.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I mean, they rated just to you know, for those
maybe not following all the ex's and o's, they rated
the property that is linked to someone who worked with
the AI company. This is down in Florida, that was
very much part of this. So it begins to the
constellation of seizures, and then this dismissal begins to kind
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of play into a narrative that might suggest at some
point someone will be charged.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Certainly, the investigation has a lot of momentum right now.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and the last did pay this
company three million bucks for their AI chatbot called ed
How long it took them to come up.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
With that name.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But it doesn't necessarily mean that Carrollo has done anything wrong.
But you know, there's a lot of smoke and a
lot of people are going to assume there's some fire
under there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All right, let's talk about the Epstein testimony today again,
closed door testimony with Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton was yesterday,
and Hillary Clinton seemed to you know, if anybody's got
high ground, it's probably Hillary Clinton in the sense that
she you know, she didn't there's no evidence that she
was on the plane. There's no evidence that she was right,
I mean, but Bill Clinton kind of a different story.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, absolutely. I think comparently she never met the guy
and so she had to say like ten times no
and about him and meet him, et cetera. And of
course there's some weird questions about UFOs and Pizzagate to
Hillary yesterday. We don't know why people asked her about that.
We should know in the next twenty four to forty
eight hours what happened, because we're going to get the
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video and get a transcript. But today was Bill Clinton's
day and apparently, you know, he answered every question asked.
The chairman of the committee, Mark came out at the
end of the day and said, well, he did attempt
to respond to every single question asked. His lawyer told
him to shut up. And I'm thinking, really, did the
lawyer and the deposition turn to him and say Bill
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shut up? I doubt it. I mean, he's the former president.
But I mean, you know, there's no breaking news in
the sensitive course he said, I didn't do anything wrong.
I just terminated my relationship with him before the charges
even came up. You know the fun picture of Bill
Clinton sitting in a hot tub with a few women
whose faces were blurred. Okay, they asked him about that.
We don't know exactly what he said, but you know,
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I'm go, I've got one hundred dollars that he said. Well,
when I go to resorts and you know, hang around
with people, sometimes we're in hot tubs, sometimes there are
people I know, sometimes that people I don't know. It
doesn't mean anything wrong went on. So the process was
the big deal, Mark. I mean, they have almost were
thinking about charging them with contempt for not testifying. And
now the Democrats are saying, Hey, what's good for the
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goose is good for the gander. When we take over
the Congress next year, when we flip the script in
the midterms, we run the committees, We're going to call
Donald Trump down to Capitol Hill and he can tell
us what he knows about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It is wild that the GOP reps really didn't show
up for the Lex Weckner stuff, but they showed up
in a big way for Clinton. And this was really
the this is the big game hunting that is going
on around Epstein. And so what you mentioned seems very
consistent with like the fact that Dems they want Trump,
they want Lutnick, maybe to a lesser extent, they want
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some recognizable names to show up on their wall.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean it's performative. It is political theater,
as the Democrats were charging. And it's so weird. I mean, Mark,
when you get both sides of the political spectrum and
support of let's get to the bottom of the Epstein drama.
Because the right wants to embarrass the left and the
left wants to embarrass the right. That's a juggernaut. I mean,
that's going forward. But I mean let's face that this.
I mean, how long is this is this story going
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to be on the books? It's been over a decade.
You'd think that if there was some really embarrassing stuff
about really big names, I would testimony, a video, something,
wouldn't it have surfaced by now? And yet they say, oh, well,
we've only released two or three percent of the Epstein
document three percent after a decade. How can that be?
It's very weird.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It took literally an Act of Congress to get it released.
So on some level, it's that, you know, we just
got the big data dump and then there are there
are missing it suggested deletions and all of this that
are word to protect the president, and that they're victims'
names that were to have been protected that we're not.
I mean, there's a lot of a lot of smoke
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around this, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, well, I think you've come up with a very
catchy new cliche. It took an active Congress.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know, I'm I'm very good with catching new cliches.
So until next time you go with that one, I'll
have another one for next time.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I really appreciate you winging in.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And we also, you know, we kind of dumped the
Carvallo thing on you because it was a breaking story
and I appreciate you jumping in on that.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So good to talk to you right.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I was getting I was getting slop sweat market.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, Royal Oaks. Thanks always. Good talking to you, my friend.
Until next time. Yeah, we'll talk again. It's the John
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It all worked out, It.
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All worked out in the end. It's a Hollywood ending.
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the iHeartRadio app. I don't know if you saw the
showdown that is going going off between Pete Hegseth, who
runs the Pentagon, you know, runs the Defense Department, and
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the AI people at Anthropic. Essentially, the AI people have
huge contracts with the government, the Anthropic people having two
hundred million dollar contracts right now, and the Pentagon wants
them to drop certain regulations on the use of the AI.
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They want AI right now at AI is prohibited in
this relationship with the Pentagon from surveillance and surveillance of
American citizens and also the what they call sort of
autonomous I think is the word they use, the autonomous
weapon systems, so the weapon systems that could operate just
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on AI without a human being involved. Now, apparently this
negotiation and back and forth didn't go well. This is
a again Anthropic, they are the AI company. They are
way up in the Pentagon's business, meaning that this contract
puts them, the existing contract into all sorts of defense
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department subdepartments, if you want to think of it that way.
And so from what I understand, like backing out of
your relationship with Anthropic if you're the Pentagon is really hard.
But that brings me to the point that's what's going
to happen, because the Pentagon said, no, we want all
the regulations that are associated with AI and the independence
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of AI to be removed. So, in other words, if
we're using AI on the battlefield or elsewhere, and AI
decides that there should be a launch of a missile
or other piece of weaponry, we want the AI to
be able to make that decision, should at least have
that freedom. Now they're also saying we're not going to
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use that freedom. We're not going to do that, but
we don't want a restriction on the ability to do that.
We're not going to do anything that's against the law,
and we're not going to do anything when it comes
to surveilling American citizens or having these systems AI systems
machine systems launch without a human involved. That's what the
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Pentagon's saying, We're not going to do that, but still
we don't want you to have in the contract that
we can't do that, which is just a little bit
odd because if you're not going to do it anyway,
why are you so insistent on that being removed from
the contract. So this is a real heavy duty dispute.
In fact, it was so heavy duty that Hegseth said,
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here's what's going to happen. You're going to remove these
restrictions on our ability to do these things, or we're
going to drop you from government contracts with the Defense Department.
That's why I was mentioning, they're way up with the
Defense Department. Many many deals and many of the tentacles
of AI through this company are involved in the Pentagon contract.
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So the idea that heg Seth and the Defense Department
people that are saying, we're going to drop you. That's
a big threat. Then they said, and we're going to
invoke a piece of legislation that will allow us to
force you to give us these abilities that we want.
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So you can either do it the easy way or
you can do it the hard way. Now, the AI
company Andthropic is saying, look, these are company policies. We're
not bringing these policies to you specifically US Government, US Pentagon.
But the Pentagon is saying, we don't want to be
constrained by any of your company policies. We want full
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tactical operas and not to be in any way limited
by your end user agreement. You know the terms and
conditions that apply. But it looks like the back and
forth broke down, and now the Trump administration is ordering
military contracts and federal agencies to cease with Anthropic. It's
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a big, big story, and the use of AI at
the Defense Department is a big story too. The use
of AI in many different ways with US government contracts
is a huge story.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
As you're aware.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Palateer, which is a big company run by Peter Thiel
in very tight with JD Vans for example, and also
this existing government. It is all about being used by
ICE in government contracts with the Custom and Border Patrol
people and ICE and immigration authorities. Palaentteer is designed and
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specifically to track people, and the critics of this would
say it's way too dangerous. You've got Americans essentially being
exposed to tracking in ways that they just shouldn't be
and are illegal, and you have Palanteer with an oversized
role in this government's policies. So this is all going on.
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But the breaking news of today is that the Trump
administration is ordering federal agencies and contractors that work with
the military to cease business with Nthropic after the company
refused to allow the Pentagon to use its artificial intelligence
technology without the restrictions I described. Government agencies, including the Pentagon,
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have six months to phase out use of Entthropics products.
This is something that Trump has said to basically back
up Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. And now they're saying, we
Anthropic is a supply chain, it's a national security threat.
But you know just what fifteen hours ago they were
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trying to make this deal with Anthropic so we know
that that's not really true. But that's what this is
all about. This has been a week long showdown between
this leading AI company and the government, and this will
change quickly. How AI is used at the Pentagon. They
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use this Claud system, that's what it's called Claud. And this,
as I say, relationship between Anthropic and the American government
is really a significant one. So I would say two things. One,
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the government is going to find other AI partners who
will let them do what they want. And number two,
Anthropic with their Claud technology, they may be in trouble
because a lot of their success comes from contracts that
are associated with the Pentagon. I mean it's big, big
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contracts that are not even directly with the Pentagon. They're
with defense contractors who use the technology and they have
deals with the Pentagon. So this idea somehow that you
could stand down with the US government, I mean, mad respect,
I guess for standing by the precepts of what you said. Look,
we're not going to let our technology be used to
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surveil Americans and we're not going to let our technology
be used to fire weaponry without humans involved. But it
may cost you your company at the end.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Of all of this.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So that's the latest on the Department of Defense and
this major announcement from the President of the United States
and the Defense Secretary ordering the military and federal agencies
to cease business with Anthropic. It's the co Belt Show.
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Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know? The TSA workers are still working.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Now without a without a check, haven't been paid now
in a while, right, Are they going to.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Get huge bonuses for working without Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh yeah, I'm sure they're huge bonuses coming.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
In fact, they're now talking about doing what anybody what
did they do the last time they left? Yep, they
started calling out sick.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
They had to r Were they driving for ubery?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
You know, taking other jobs?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I mean people are you know, these aren't like, you know,
cush jobs. You know, you look at the TSA first,
and they're they're working shift to shift and they're likely
working check to check to pay for things.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
But they're not air traffic controllers.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
No they are not.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
So I'm i mean not the TSA workers are not important.
I'm not saying that right.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But you're saying the people in the tower, yes, are
a little more of a priority. You look at the
tower first, is what you're saying, before you look to
see the conveyor belt and whether or not they're people manning.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
It putting bombs in suitcase.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Airports security screeners across the United States getting a fraction
of their usual pay. It's a partial government shutdown, as
you know. And now there is more talk that they
will call in sick to do what Debra's talking about,
to take second jobs or even quit. It's not the
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gravy train it used to be, Debrah, No, no, no.
Working for the government now is sort of a high
wire act. They're going to be open, they're going to
be closed, They're going to be angry with you, They're
going to give you your check or not. February was
it thirteenth. That's where this whole thing started. On the thirteenth,
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where they couldn't reach a deal on immigration enforcement reforms.
Democrats wanted those reforms, and they were ready to make
the point by shutting down funding for the US Department
of Homeland Security. Now, you know, we've talked about this,
I think on this radio station and beyond that, ICE,
which is probably I would say, you know, head of
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the parade of controversy when it comes to DHS money,
they have plenty of money. I mean they have more
money than the FBI, So ICE is plenty of money.
But the idea was I think on the part of
the Democrats to sort of send the message even though
they knew that the thing that was most troubling, or
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at least a photo finished for most troubling, the way
the ICE agents were handling various business. They knew they
couldn't affect that, but they wanted to make the point anyway.
They on February thirteenth they held up funding for DHS
and that includes TSA. So I don't think they're making
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any major breakthroughs on this, and if this drags on longer,
they're going to be a lot of absences, departures, There'll
be bottlenecked security lines. There's going to be a lot
of blowback. I mean, I think right now it's sort
of the water slowly rising. But people are going to.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Get spring break.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Oh that's right, spring break, a lot more travel, Yeah,
spring travel coming. The national vice president of District three
of the American Federation of Government Employees representing TSA workers
said this, people are going to get discouraged a lot
quicker this time. People are going to look for other things.
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They're expecting more resignations. A lot of these people are
repaying debts that they incurred during the last shutdown. So
the top official at the TSA told Congress this month,
at around eleven hundred TSA security officers left the TSA
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in October in November, a more than twenty five percent
increase from the same time period in twenty twenty four.
So you have, in essence, a bleeding off of a
lot of people who are already working at TSA. Here's
a quote from the union official. I'm sorry, this is
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the government official, not the union official. This is the
top official at the TSA. We heard reports of officers
sleeping in their cars at airports to save money on gas,
selling their blood and plasma, and taking on second jobs
to make ends meet. The TSA officer at Harry Reid
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International Airport that's in Las Vegas. They said that the
back to back shutdowns are making them reconsider the future
of their nine year career at the agency. Quote, I
want to keep this job, at least for the medical benefits,
but sometimes I think I'd be better off to abandon
ship and reinvest myself elsewhere. That person's thirty four years old.
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The airline CEOs are meeting with Christy Nome to talk
about the shutdown and the effect on TSA. Airlines have
raised concern about this suspension of the Global Entry program
wasn't affected by the twenty twenty five shutdown, but now
it may be threatened during this shutdown. Jackie Rosen from Nevada,
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she's the senator there, said in a letter to Christy Nome,
the government is using that program, the DHS Customs and
Immigration Clearance associated with Global Entry, as political leverage and
to create uncertainty. So I'd say two things you walk
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away with a These TSA people are trying to make
ends meet. They're not living large on TSA money. And
for the second time in four months, they have to
find a way to make ends meet without pay, and
there's no sign that this thing is going to provide
relief anytime soon. This thing of government looks to be
(22:52):
keeping this agency closed. So now they're calling in sick,
they're taking odd jobs, they're paying bills with all those
ways that we mentioned, selling plasma and the rest. They're
looking at alternatives. The government jobs used to be the
most stable jobs in America, and now it's like working
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in media. Yeah, my god. One day you're on top
of the world checking somebody's luggage, and the next day
you haven't been paid for two months. So watch for
that if you're traveling. Increasingly, they're going to be fewer
and fewer of these TSA employees. They're calling in sick,
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and they're leaving the job completely. It's the John Coblt Show.
Mark Thompson sitting in for John KFI AM six forty
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Speaker 3 (23:52):
Mark Thompson's sitting in for John Cobelt. We got all
the co Belt crew here, you know, Debra Eric Angel
Rock and Roll Ray. But I am noting that it's
a pretty busy Friday. We've had the breaking news around
Carvallo and the paid leave that's been forced during that investigation,
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but also the imminent I know what you call it,
imminent or the threatened strike of Iran they're saying now.
I mean, the breaking detail I think of the last
couple of hours is that they are saying to US
embassy personnel in Jerusalem that they may leave Israel, and
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they've warned them that if they want to leave, they
should do it immediately. That would seem to suggest there'll
be some military action soon. That came from Mike Huckabee,
who's the ambassador there, in an email. Those wishing to
leave quotes should do so today in capitol letters. So
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we're watching that story. And then people in Mexico, as
you're well aware, are victims of cartel violence from the
standpoint even of travel plans being interrupted.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It was I was surprised.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It was with some surprise that I saw that this
Elmentcho guy, who was the lead guy. I guess he's
the Apex predator of drug lords in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Do you know where he's.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Starting anybody before he became a big drug kingpin in Mexico,
in the drug kingpin and in Mexico before he had
a fifteen million dollar.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Bounty on his head.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Was it in California?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yes, Deborah gets points California, San Francisco, California. It's crazy
he was picked up. He was like a small time
hood arrested in San Francisco. I mean, this infamous guy
was picked up. I think it was for low grade
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drug charges initially, and then he moved up. He had
a meth charge I think in his past, and cocaine
like a weapons charge. All of this what he was
just a teenager in San Francisco, and then he went
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south of the border and really began lighting things up.
It's remarkable that he was able to cobble together what
was this powerful drug cartel. He did it through all
of these different relationships, and now you have a proliferation
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of weapons, proliferation of proliferation of all of these drug
runners in Mexico, and now they are scattered. The coherence
that that guy brought to things, meaning it was his
deal that has been split apart. And so I guess
there's a real question as to what's going to happen.
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In other words, will cartel violence, if you want to
think of it this way, now just spread throughout Mexico
or will the vacuum be taken by someone else? The
question has been asking. I mean've been asked, who is
going to be the next elementcho, you know, and apparently,
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I mean, this is a multi billion dollar cartel and
it's very possible that the next generation of cartel leaders
is in place. This could be an intense power struggle,
and while the power struggle is going on, you may
have a real threat. And they're talking about how it
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might affect World Cup, it may affect tourism. Mexico is
a much different place when you start detaining tourist vehicles,
telling people to get off buses, blowing up cars. So
this is a real threat south of the border to
life in Mexico and the economy of Mexico. One scenario
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actually brings into the world of the cartels someone from
this country who again goes south and takes over so
many of these lieutenants, if you want to think of
it that way, who are now running these Balkanized cartels.
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They're all broken up pretty wild, but certainly will be
something to watch in Mexico, and I'd say, if you're
planning travel there, I would research carefully where you're going
and exactly how it might be affected. Savannah Guthrie is
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saying she's going to be back on the air. Her mother,
Nancy Guthrie, still missing. No breaks in that case. We
talked to Alex Stone earlier in the show. This eighty
four year old woman taken on February first, Now Savannah
Guthrie is offering a one million dollar reward for her
safe return. There have been over fifteen hundred tips, no
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DNA matches, and even though investigators have physical evidence including
blood and video of this masked man, and they've recovered gloves,
there is no positive hit. And again Savannah Guthrie and
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just the high profile nature of the entire investigation, you'd
think would do two things. A bring more law enforcement
as sets in. You'd think that every possible break that
you could get from the standpoint of focus, from the
standpoint of lab work, from the standpoint of detective work,
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it would all be given and amplified. In this Guthrie case,
simply because of Savannah Guthrie.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
In President Trump call her up on the phone, or
I maybe they even met face to face, I'm not
sure and said, look, were at your the FBI's at
your disposal pretty much.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, anything you need and they still have the eight
hundred line, eight hundred call FBI. They offered the reward
the million dollars, there are other rewards associated with it
and nothing. Now, the other thing I was going to
say is that it, on the one hand, amplifies the
case and so you get all of those assets that
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Debra is talking about from the President on down. But
the other thing it does is it puts a lot
of heat on the case. So to whatever extent it
was really a kidnapping, and I don't know that it was.
I mean, this might have just been a brutal a
hack in some way. I mean, I think you true
crime officionados. I know there are a lot of you
out there probably have this all, you know, laid out
(31:08):
on a corkboard with yarn. But the reality is that
if it was a kidnapping, there's so much heat now
that I don't see how you could even effectively execute
the the exchange. You know, it would be crypto, a
crypto transfer, and then you drop off this eighty four
(31:31):
year old in an empty parking lot somewhere.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I mean, I don't know how it would happen. There
is so much.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Scrutiny that I think it would just it would spook
those involved. And so that's the other side of it
being a high profile case. It's sort of easier just
to drop it if you're the guys involved in this.
Either way, it's awfully sad, and she's saying now in
ways that would indicate she's begun to accept the grim
(32:02):
reality that she may go back to work and hope
that her mother is, you know, dancing above in the
in the life beyond tough spot for sure. When we
come back. What's happening when we come back, Eric, And
then we have don't we have a guest? Oh five
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point thirty is the is Schneider from Variety. Oh that's great, Okay,
the next hour we'll talk about this huge merger. It
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A lot of breaking news today. We'll get to some
of it, and we'll welcome in Royal Oaks on the
issue of Carvallo and the superintendent of la USD now
being placed on administrative leap haid leave, and I'll start there,
and then I want to pivot to the Clintons in
the Epstein situation. But Royal welcome and wonder what you
(00:29):
can add to this situation.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, first I have to say, Mark, it's always pleasure
to talk to you, but I'm not going to interrupt
you because I heard what happened to Mark a few
minutes ago when she when she broke in and you
were talking about and you really give it, so man,
I'm just going to wait and tell the question. Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now, you felt I was too heavy handed in my
in my treatment of Deborah when she interrupted me when
I was I was laying down a yarn, I was
trying to tell a story.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I was trying to stick to the landing and she
interrupted me.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, bad for her. You know what, Royal I.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Work with John Cobel, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's right, I compared to co Bell. Yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So here's the deal. Yeah, the breaking news. As Debra said,
I mean we've been wondering, you know, what's he you know,
done wrong? If anything? Is he really a target or
they just want to look at his laptop as somebody
else in trouble but not so much him. Well, the
deal is, uh, the governmental entity, like the school board,
they have a right under the rules to say, hmmm,
until things settle, you're going to be you know, out
(01:32):
out of the office. It's for the integrity of the office,
to promote confidence among taxpayers. It's a little different mark
for private employees, you know, they have more like First
Amendment rights, like hey, you know one of my chopped
livery here. Not only have I not been convicted, I
have not been charged. We don't even know if they're
going to charge me. So Cavallo doesn't have the same
(01:53):
rights as other folks. So he's going to have to
be on the bench for a while, not helping the
kids get through K twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So as long as you're paying the person in this case,
the superintendent, you're okay. If they were to say we're
suspending him without pay. Then you'd have a legal problem.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, well, depending on the nuts and bolts and the
fine print and the contract. From his standpoint, whether he
gets paid or not, it's a lose situation because you know,
if you're told stay home, everybody in the county is saying, oh, well,
he must be guilty, And of course that isn't necessarily true,
but you know, it helps for them to say, hey,
you are going to give you, give you the money.
Of course, you know, when my teachers are used to
(02:31):
doing horrible things, but we can't fire them because of
some rules, they go to the rubber room and they
get paid. So you know, you may get paid. But
his main job, I think is what's clear the name.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I mean, they rated just to you know, for those
maybe not following all the ex's and o's, they rated
the property that is linked to someone who worked with
the AI company. This is down in Florida, that was
very much part of this. So it begins to the
constellation of seizures, and then this dismissal begins to kind
(03:07):
of play into a narrative that might suggest at some
point someone will be charged.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Certainly, the investigation has a lot of momentum right now.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and the last did pay this
company three million bucks for their AI chatbot called ed
How long it took them to come up.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
With that name.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But it doesn't necessarily mean that Carrollo has done anything wrong.
But you know, there's a lot of smoke and a
lot of people are going to assume there's some fire
under there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All right, let's talk about the Epstein testimony today again,
closed door testimony with Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton was yesterday,
and Hillary Clinton seemed to you know, if anybody's got
high ground, it's probably Hillary Clinton in the sense that
she you know, she didn't there's no evidence that she
was on the plane. There's no evidence that she was right,
I mean, but Bill Clinton kind of a different story.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, absolutely. I think comparently she never met the guy
and so she had to say like ten times no
and about him and meet him, et cetera. And of
course there's some weird questions about UFOs and Pizzagate to
Hillary yesterday. We don't know why people asked her about that.
We should know in the next twenty four to forty
eight hours what happened, because we're going to get the
(04:17):
video and get a transcript. But today was Bill Clinton's
day and apparently, you know, he answered every question asked.
The chairman of the committee, Mark came out at the
end of the day and said, well, he did attempt
to respond to every single question asked. His lawyer told
him to shut up. And I'm thinking, really, did the
lawyer and the deposition turn to him and say Bill
(04:37):
shut up? I doubt it. I mean, he's the former president.
But I mean, you know, there's no breaking news in
the sensitive course he said, I didn't do anything wrong.
I just terminated my relationship with him before the charges
even came up. You know the fun picture of Bill
Clinton sitting in a hot tub with a few women
whose faces were blurred. Okay, they asked him about that.
We don't know exactly what he said, but you know,
(04:59):
I'm go, I've got one hundred dollars that he said. Well,
when I go to resorts and you know, hang around
with people, sometimes we're in hot tubs, sometimes there are
people I know, sometimes that people I don't know. It
doesn't mean anything wrong went on. So the process was
the big deal, Mark. I mean, they have almost were
thinking about charging them with contempt for not testifying. And
now the Democrats are saying, Hey, what's good for the
(05:20):
goose is good for the gander. When we take over
the Congress next year, when we flip the script in
the midterms, we run the committees, We're going to call
Donald Trump down to Capitol Hill and he can tell
us what he knows about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It is wild that the GOP reps really didn't show
up for the Lex Weckner stuff, but they showed up
in a big way for Clinton. And this was really
the this is the big game hunting that is going
on around Epstein. And so what you mentioned seems very
consistent with like the fact that Dems they want Trump,
they want Lutnick, maybe to a lesser extent, they want
(05:55):
some recognizable names to show up on their wall.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean it's performative. It is political theater,
as the Democrats were charging. And it's so weird. I mean, Mark,
when you get both sides of the political spectrum and
support of let's get to the bottom of the Epstein drama.
Because the right wants to embarrass the left and the
left wants to embarrass the right. That's a juggernaut. I mean,
that's going forward. But I mean let's face that this.
I mean, how long is this is this story going
(06:21):
to be on the books? It's been over a decade.
You'd think that if there was some really embarrassing stuff
about really big names, I would testimony, a video, something,
wouldn't it have surfaced by now? And yet they say, oh, well,
we've only released two or three percent of the Epstein
document three percent after a decade. How can that be?
It's very weird.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It took literally an Act of Congress to get it released.
So on some level, it's that, you know, we just
got the big data dump and then there are there
are missing it suggested deletions and all of this that
are word to protect the president, and that they're victims'
names that were to have been protected that we're not.
I mean, there's a lot of a lot of smoke
(07:01):
around this, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, well, I think you've come up with a very
catchy new cliche. It took an active Congress.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know, I'm I'm very good with catching new cliches.
So until next time you go with that one, I'll
have another one for next time.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I really appreciate you winging in.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And we also, you know, we kind of dumped the
Carvallo thing on you because it was a breaking story
and I appreciate you jumping in on that.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So good to talk to you right.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I was getting I was getting slop sweat market.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, Royal Oaks. Thanks always. Good talking to you, my friend.
Until next time. Yeah, we'll talk again. It's the John
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the iHeartRadio app. I don't know if you saw the
showdown that is going going off between Pete Hegseth, who
runs the Pentagon, you know, runs the Defense Department, and
(08:14):
the AI people at Anthropic. Essentially, the AI people have
huge contracts with the government, the Anthropic people having two
hundred million dollar contracts right now, and the Pentagon wants
them to drop certain regulations on the use of the AI.
(08:34):
They want AI right now at AI is prohibited in
this relationship with the Pentagon from surveillance and surveillance of
American citizens and also the what they call sort of
autonomous I think is the word they use, the autonomous
weapon systems, so the weapon systems that could operate just
(08:58):
on AI without a human being involved. Now, apparently this
negotiation and back and forth didn't go well. This is
a again Anthropic, they are the AI company. They are
way up in the Pentagon's business, meaning that this contract
puts them, the existing contract into all sorts of defense
(09:22):
department subdepartments, if you want to think of it that way.
And so from what I understand, like backing out of
your relationship with Anthropic if you're the Pentagon is really hard.
But that brings me to the point that's what's going
to happen, because the Pentagon said, no, we want all
the regulations that are associated with AI and the independence
(09:44):
of AI to be removed. So, in other words, if
we're using AI on the battlefield or elsewhere, and AI
decides that there should be a launch of a missile
or other piece of weaponry, we want the AI to
be able to make that decision, should at least have
that freedom. Now they're also saying we're not going to
(10:06):
use that freedom. We're not going to do that, but
we don't want a restriction on the ability to do that.
We're not going to do anything that's against the law,
and we're not going to do anything when it comes
to surveilling American citizens or having these systems AI systems
machine systems launch without a human involved. That's what the
(10:28):
Pentagon's saying, We're not going to do that, but still
we don't want you to have in the contract that
we can't do that, which is just a little bit
odd because if you're not going to do it anyway,
why are you so insistent on that being removed from
the contract. So this is a real heavy duty dispute.
In fact, it was so heavy duty that Hegseth said,
(10:52):
here's what's going to happen. You're going to remove these
restrictions on our ability to do these things, or we're
going to drop you from government contracts with the Defense Department.
That's why I was mentioning, they're way up with the
Defense Department. Many many deals and many of the tentacles
of AI through this company are involved in the Pentagon contract.
(11:14):
So the idea that heg Seth and the Defense Department
people that are saying, we're going to drop you. That's
a big threat. Then they said, and we're going to
invoke a piece of legislation that will allow us to
force you to give us these abilities that we want.
(11:35):
So you can either do it the easy way or
you can do it the hard way. Now, the AI
company Andthropic is saying, look, these are company policies. We're
not bringing these policies to you specifically US Government, US Pentagon.
But the Pentagon is saying, we don't want to be
constrained by any of your company policies. We want full
(11:59):
tactical operas and not to be in any way limited
by your end user agreement. You know the terms and
conditions that apply. But it looks like the back and
forth broke down, and now the Trump administration is ordering
military contracts and federal agencies to cease with Anthropic. It's
(12:24):
a big, big story, and the use of AI at
the Defense Department is a big story too. The use
of AI in many different ways with US government contracts
is a huge story.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
As you're aware.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Palateer, which is a big company run by Peter Thiel
in very tight with JD Vans for example, and also
this existing government. It is all about being used by
ICE in government contracts with the Custom and Border Patrol
people and ICE and immigration authorities. Palaentteer is designed and
(13:00):
specifically to track people, and the critics of this would
say it's way too dangerous. You've got Americans essentially being
exposed to tracking in ways that they just shouldn't be
and are illegal, and you have Palanteer with an oversized
role in this government's policies. So this is all going on.
(13:22):
But the breaking news of today is that the Trump
administration is ordering federal agencies and contractors that work with
the military to cease business with Nthropic after the company
refused to allow the Pentagon to use its artificial intelligence
technology without the restrictions I described. Government agencies, including the Pentagon,
(13:45):
have six months to phase out use of Entthropics products.
This is something that Trump has said to basically back
up Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. And now they're saying, we
Anthropic is a supply chain, it's a national security threat.
But you know just what fifteen hours ago they were
(14:07):
trying to make this deal with Anthropic so we know
that that's not really true. But that's what this is
all about. This has been a week long showdown between
this leading AI company and the government, and this will
change quickly. How AI is used at the Pentagon. They
(14:27):
use this Claud system, that's what it's called Claud. And this,
as I say, relationship between Anthropic and the American government
is really a significant one. So I would say two things. One,
(14:48):
the government is going to find other AI partners who
will let them do what they want. And number two,
Anthropic with their Claud technology, they may be in trouble
because a lot of their success comes from contracts that
are associated with the Pentagon. I mean it's big, big
(15:11):
contracts that are not even directly with the Pentagon. They're
with defense contractors who use the technology and they have
deals with the Pentagon. So this idea somehow that you
could stand down with the US government, I mean, mad respect,
I guess for standing by the precepts of what you said. Look,
we're not going to let our technology be used to
(15:33):
surveil Americans and we're not going to let our technology
be used to fire weaponry without humans involved. But it
may cost you your company at the end.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Of all of this.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So that's the latest on the Department of Defense and
this major announcement from the President of the United States
and the Defense Secretary ordering the military and federal agencies
to cease business with Anthropic. It's the co Belt Show.
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Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know? The TSA workers are still working.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Now without a without a check, haven't been paid now
in a while, right, Are they going to.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Get huge bonuses for working without Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh yeah, I'm sure they're huge bonuses coming.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
In fact, they're now talking about doing what anybody what
did they do the last time they left? Yep, they
started calling out sick.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
They had to r Were they driving for ubery?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
You know, taking other jobs?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I mean people are you know, these aren't like, you know,
cush jobs. You know, you look at the TSA first,
and they're they're working shift to shift and they're likely
working check to check to pay for things.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
But they're not air traffic controllers.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
No they are not.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
So I'm i mean not the TSA workers are not important.
I'm not saying that right.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But you're saying the people in the tower, yes, are
a little more of a priority. You look at the
tower first, is what you're saying, before you look to
see the conveyor belt and whether or not they're people manning.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
It putting bombs in suitcase.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Airports security screeners across the United States getting a fraction
of their usual pay. It's a partial government shutdown, as
you know. And now there is more talk that they
will call in sick to do what Debra's talking about,
to take second jobs or even quit. It's not the
(17:57):
gravy train it used to be, Debrah, No, no, no.
Working for the government now is sort of a high
wire act. They're going to be open, they're going to
be closed, They're going to be angry with you, They're
going to give you your check or not. February was
it thirteenth. That's where this whole thing started. On the thirteenth,
(18:19):
where they couldn't reach a deal on immigration enforcement reforms.
Democrats wanted those reforms, and they were ready to make
the point by shutting down funding for the US Department
of Homeland Security. Now, you know, we've talked about this,
I think on this radio station and beyond that, ICE,
which is probably I would say, you know, head of
(18:42):
the parade of controversy when it comes to DHS money,
they have plenty of money. I mean they have more
money than the FBI, So ICE is plenty of money.
But the idea was I think on the part of
the Democrats to sort of send the message even though
they knew that the thing that was most troubling, or
(19:03):
at least a photo finished for most troubling, the way
the ICE agents were handling various business. They knew they
couldn't affect that, but they wanted to make the point anyway.
They on February thirteenth they held up funding for DHS
and that includes TSA. So I don't think they're making
(19:28):
any major breakthroughs on this, and if this drags on longer,
they're going to be a lot of absences, departures, There'll
be bottlenecked security lines. There's going to be a lot
of blowback. I mean, I think right now it's sort
of the water slowly rising. But people are going to.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Get spring break.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Oh that's right, spring break, a lot more travel, Yeah,
spring travel coming. The national vice president of District three
of the American Federation of Government Employees representing TSA workers
said this, people are going to get discouraged a lot
quicker this time. People are going to look for other things.
(20:18):
They're expecting more resignations. A lot of these people are
repaying debts that they incurred during the last shutdown. So
the top official at the TSA told Congress this month,
at around eleven hundred TSA security officers left the TSA
(20:39):
in October in November, a more than twenty five percent
increase from the same time period in twenty twenty four.
So you have, in essence, a bleeding off of a
lot of people who are already working at TSA. Here's
a quote from the union official. I'm sorry, this is
(21:01):
the government official, not the union official. This is the
top official at the TSA. We heard reports of officers
sleeping in their cars at airports to save money on gas,
selling their blood and plasma, and taking on second jobs
to make ends meet. The TSA officer at Harry Reid
(21:22):
International Airport that's in Las Vegas. They said that the
back to back shutdowns are making them reconsider the future
of their nine year career at the agency. Quote, I
want to keep this job, at least for the medical benefits,
but sometimes I think I'd be better off to abandon
ship and reinvest myself elsewhere. That person's thirty four years old.
(21:48):
The airline CEOs are meeting with Christy Nome to talk
about the shutdown and the effect on TSA. Airlines have
raised concern about this suspension of the Global Entry program
wasn't affected by the twenty twenty five shutdown, but now
it may be threatened during this shutdown. Jackie Rosen from Nevada,
(22:10):
she's the senator there, said in a letter to Christy Nome,
the government is using that program, the DHS Customs and
Immigration Clearance associated with Global Entry, as political leverage and
to create uncertainty. So I'd say two things you walk
(22:30):
away with a These TSA people are trying to make
ends meet. They're not living large on TSA money. And
for the second time in four months, they have to
find a way to make ends meet without pay, and
there's no sign that this thing is going to provide
relief anytime soon. This thing of government looks to be
(22:52):
keeping this agency closed. So now they're calling in sick,
they're taking odd jobs, they're paying bills with all those
ways that we mentioned, selling plasma and the rest. They're
looking at alternatives. The government jobs used to be the
most stable jobs in America, and now it's like working
(23:16):
in media. Yeah, my god. One day you're on top
of the world checking somebody's luggage, and the next day
you haven't been paid for two months. So watch for
that if you're traveling. Increasingly, they're going to be fewer
and fewer of these TSA employees. They're calling in sick,
(23:36):
and they're leaving the job completely. It's the John Coblt Show.
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Mark Thompson's sitting in for John Cobelt. We got all
the co Belt crew here, you know, Debra Eric Angel
Rock and Roll Ray. But I am noting that it's
a pretty busy Friday. We've had the breaking news around
Carvallo and the paid leave that's been forced during that investigation,
(24:13):
but also the imminent I know what you call it,
imminent or the threatened strike of Iran they're saying now.
I mean, the breaking detail I think of the last
couple of hours is that they are saying to US
embassy personnel in Jerusalem that they may leave Israel, and
(24:34):
they've warned them that if they want to leave, they
should do it immediately. That would seem to suggest there'll
be some military action soon. That came from Mike Huckabee,
who's the ambassador there, in an email. Those wishing to
leave quotes should do so today in capitol letters. So
(24:58):
we're watching that story. And then people in Mexico, as
you're well aware, are victims of cartel violence from the
standpoint even of travel plans being interrupted.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It was I was surprised.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It was with some surprise that I saw that this
Elmentcho guy, who was the lead guy. I guess he's
the Apex predator of drug lords in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Do you know where he's.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Starting anybody before he became a big drug kingpin in Mexico,
in the drug kingpin and in Mexico before he had
a fifteen million dollar.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Bounty on his head.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Was it in California?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yes, Deborah gets points California, San Francisco, California. It's crazy
he was picked up. He was like a small time
hood arrested in San Francisco. I mean, this infamous guy
was picked up. I think it was for low grade
(26:07):
drug charges initially, and then he moved up. He had
a meth charge I think in his past, and cocaine
like a weapons charge. All of this what he was
just a teenager in San Francisco, and then he went
(26:32):
south of the border and really began lighting things up.
It's remarkable that he was able to cobble together what
was this powerful drug cartel. He did it through all
of these different relationships, and now you have a proliferation
(26:55):
of weapons, proliferation of proliferation of all of these drug
runners in Mexico, and now they are scattered. The coherence
that that guy brought to things, meaning it was his
deal that has been split apart. And so I guess
there's a real question as to what's going to happen.
(27:16):
In other words, will cartel violence, if you want to
think of it this way, now just spread throughout Mexico
or will the vacuum be taken by someone else? The
question has been asking. I mean've been asked, who is
going to be the next elementcho, you know, and apparently,
(27:36):
I mean, this is a multi billion dollar cartel and
it's very possible that the next generation of cartel leaders
is in place. This could be an intense power struggle,
and while the power struggle is going on, you may
have a real threat. And they're talking about how it
(27:59):
might affect World Cup, it may affect tourism. Mexico is
a much different place when you start detaining tourist vehicles,
telling people to get off buses, blowing up cars. So
this is a real threat south of the border to
life in Mexico and the economy of Mexico. One scenario
(28:24):
actually brings into the world of the cartels someone from
this country who again goes south and takes over so
many of these lieutenants, if you want to think of
it that way, who are now running these Balkanized cartels.
(28:45):
They're all broken up pretty wild, but certainly will be
something to watch in Mexico, and I'd say, if you're
planning travel there, I would research carefully where you're going
and exactly how it might be affected. Savannah Guthrie is
(29:06):
saying she's going to be back on the air. Her mother,
Nancy Guthrie, still missing. No breaks in that case. We
talked to Alex Stone earlier in the show. This eighty
four year old woman taken on February first, Now Savannah
Guthrie is offering a one million dollar reward for her
safe return. There have been over fifteen hundred tips, no
(29:28):
DNA matches, and even though investigators have physical evidence including
blood and video of this masked man, and they've recovered gloves,
there is no positive hit. And again Savannah Guthrie and
(29:49):
just the high profile nature of the entire investigation, you'd
think would do two things. A bring more law enforcement
as sets in. You'd think that every possible break that
you could get from the standpoint of focus, from the
standpoint of lab work, from the standpoint of detective work,
(30:10):
it would all be given and amplified. In this Guthrie case,
simply because of Savannah Guthrie.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
In President Trump call her up on the phone, or
I maybe they even met face to face, I'm not
sure and said, look, were at your the FBI's at
your disposal pretty much.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, anything you need and they still have the eight
hundred line, eight hundred call FBI. They offered the reward
the million dollars, there are other rewards associated with it
and nothing. Now, the other thing I was going to
say is that it, on the one hand, amplifies the
case and so you get all of those assets that
(30:46):
Debra is talking about from the President on down. But
the other thing it does is it puts a lot
of heat on the case. So to whatever extent it
was really a kidnapping, and I don't know that it was.
I mean, this might have just been a brutal a
hack in some way. I mean, I think you true
crime officionados. I know there are a lot of you
out there probably have this all, you know, laid out
(31:08):
on a corkboard with yarn. But the reality is that
if it was a kidnapping, there's so much heat now
that I don't see how you could even effectively execute
the the exchange. You know, it would be crypto, a
crypto transfer, and then you drop off this eighty four
(31:31):
year old in an empty parking lot somewhere.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I mean, I don't know how it would happen. There
is so much.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Scrutiny that I think it would just it would spook
those involved. And so that's the other side of it
being a high profile case. It's sort of easier just
to drop it if you're the guys involved in this.
Either way, it's awfully sad, and she's saying now in
ways that would indicate she's begun to accept the grim
(32:02):
reality that she may go back to work and hope
that her mother is, you know, dancing above in the
in the life beyond tough spot for sure. When we
come back. What's happening when we come back, Eric, And
then we have don't we have a guest? Oh five
(32:25):
point thirty is the is Schneider from Variety. Oh that's great, Okay,
the next hour we'll talk about this huge merger. It
is big, but Schneider will be here the next hour,
the editor of Variety. So we'll talk about Paramount Warner Brothers,
how that affects the landscape of studios and the town
that we live in. We are KFI AM six forty
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