July 1, 2025 • 29 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (07/01) - Mark Thompson fills in for John. The jury has reached a verdict on 4 out of the 5 charges against Diddy and will continue to deliberate tomorrow. Culver City is rallying around an ice cream vendor and they want him to be released by ICE. Royal Oakes comes on the show with more details about the Diddy trial as well as the Bryan Kohberger trial. Today is Bobby Bonilla Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am sixty.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Mark Thompson sitting in.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Uh, you know, we got news and you just heard
from Deborah about the fact that the jury has reached
a verdict on most of the charges involving Sean you
can call me Diddy Combs. They have not reached a
verdict on the racketeering charge. The four other charges sex trafficking,
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the transportation to a game of prostitution, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
They have.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Reached apparently a consensus on that, but there appears to
be and they've been sent home for the day. Right,
They've been sent home for the night.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I guess, and they will be back at it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, I'm sure they're going to. I mean, this is
going to be done tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
They want their Fourth of July holidays.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You mean they want justice? Isn't that what you mean
to say?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
They want justice they just wanted before the vacation. Yes, So,
racketeering is a you know, that's the rico that you
hear so much about.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Racketeering.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Influenced and Corrupt Organizations act is rico, and it basically
means that you're running an organized scheme to commit crimes.
Either you're running or you're participating in it, right. Usually
it's with a bunch of people or some kind of
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organized enterprise. Bribery, fraud, drug trafficking, money laundering, violence, These
are all the things that are the racketeering. Usually, again
you'll a lot in mob trials, in drug trials.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So with Combs, the allegation is that he used his
businesses and employees or associates of those businesses to run
this large pattern of illegal activity. Sexual assault, intimidation, drug
related activity, the human trafficking. We've heard about all these
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things in relations to the Sean Combs trial.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So prosecutors are saying that these aren't random. This isn't
like isolated one offs that we've kind of put together
in a you know, connect the dots way. This is
a coordinated system where Shawn Combs Ditty maintained a power,
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a control, and even a profit through these crimes repeatedly.
So they argue that essentially, they're arguing that Ditty is
like the boss of a criminal enterprise.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That is what RICO is about. Right.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So it might have been disguised they would say as
a legitimate entertainment enterprise, but it's actually a criminal enterprise.
So people under him, under his control, in his employee,
helped carry out repeated crimes for him, or they carried
him out with him. That's how racketeering laws can apply
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to P Diddy. It's about the pattern, the organization, the
ongoing nature of the alleged crimes. It's not just a
single illegal act. So this is where the jury is
hung up. But it sounds as though they've not only
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reached a verdict on these other charges, but it sounds
as though the buzz in the hallway here at iHeart
the mother Ship, the buzz is earlier today, the buzz
was he's going to walk. Now the buzz is he's
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maybe going to get wrung up. Sean Homes may end
up in prison. So all those people whose opinions I
so respect, who are making their way through the hallway
going Nope, he's gonna walk, he's getting out. Nope, he
time served. Now many of those same people are saying no,
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Sean Diddy Combs may face many years in prison.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That is the conventional thinking right now.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So we'll talk to Royal Oaks, bottom of this hour
and we'll get an idea of the legal side of this.
You know, this is a google able thing, but you know,
Deborah was mentioning that they are kind of in a
hurry to get out of there. They've been involved in
this for a long time. Fourth of July weekend, et cetera.
But here's the google able thing, Like, I wonder what
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percentage of this would be hard you have to phrase
it just the right way, but what percentage of juries
that come in with a verdict within the first couple
of days generally render guilty verdicts versus how many render acquittals.
You know, like whenever there was a you remember, you
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name the high profile case it could be, and you go, oh,
j Simpson, if you want to go there, like they're going,
let's see, the jury.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Has been out for three days. What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Does that mean that they, based on that amount of time,
might offer a fill in the blank verdict, acquittal, a
guilty verdict, et cetera. So here you've got the this
is on the second day of deliberation and it looks
like they have a conclusion. Again, statistically, I wonder whether
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that would suggest an acquittal or a guilty verdict.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That's a good question for Royal.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh thank you. Oh my good note question for Royal.
If I forget it, you'll.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Will I will remind you. Yeah, thank you very much,
because I want to know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Actually yeah, and you know, when they ask to hear
transcripts from the testimonies of in this case, this Cassie
Ventura Combs, his former girlfriend, and also the Daniel Phillips
guy who was a male escort involved in one of
those freak offs. You know, I wonder if that in
itself is anything we can you know, gather might point
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to an acquittal or a guilty verdict. So anyway, we'll
ask Royal bottom of the hour. And again, remember there
were drugs involved here, there's violence involved here, so there's
a lot here to perhaps support a coherent Rico charge.
But maybe the jury's feeling like, yeah, it doesn't quite
maybe meet the standard for the rico conviction. But there
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again the other charges that they have reached a consensus on.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I do like that the jury is taking this seriously,
not because it's this particular case, but I do think
that if you're going to be on a jury, because
I know that some jurors have kind of gotten a
bad rap, but it is nice to see that they're
they're really taking this seriously and they want to make
sure that they come up with the decision that they
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can all live with.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I agree, you know, especially when we see some of
these verdicts and you examine general jury behavior and it
seems like they're not really that serious about it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So you're right, they're serious.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But you're also saying that you think they want to
get out of there before the fourth one.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well, yes, I mean that that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But justice comes second, right after my fourth of July plans.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Right, I get it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
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Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was looking at the fact that the the community
in Culver City has rallied around this ice cream vendor.
You see this guy detained by federal agents. Hundreds of people,
political leaders at the veteran memorial that gathered to demand
his release. Enrique, as he's known locally, taken from his
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ice cream cart last week in what witnesses are describing
as an operation involving masked agents in unmarked vehicles. The
vendor had sold popsicles and pleetas frozen treats made with
fresh fruit at this Culver City park for nearly two decades.
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His niece said, right now, my uncle, with so many
people out here, this is so inhumane. What's happening to
a lot of people. It's not okay. People are criticized
in the manner of the detention, Guys snatched, kidnapped folks, masked,
unmarked cars, no warrants. Community members describing him as generous,
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often giving free to children who couldn't afford them. They
acknowledge he was not a US citizen, but they emphasized
that he posted no threat to the community, had no
criminal record. The whole community here is supporting my uncle,
said another niece. Not only my uncle, but the Palaterios.
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Everybody in the community grew up with. I guess the
Palataro's are like people who hand out the fruit, the
frozen fruit. Anyway, family members are collecting character statements. They're
going to petition for a bond hearing in Texas. That's
where he's being held. And his niece is optimistic once
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we post bond for him and he's out, we know
he's going to be okay. It's just one of the cases.
We're hearing about. The dude with the weed whacker. Remember
that guy, the landscaper who was struck and arrested. They
said that they had been assaulted with the weed trimmer,
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and then there was video of the guy just running away.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But anyway, there was another.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Violent confrontation appears to be masked federal agents again in
Santa Anna. Again, this is a little more than a
week after the father of those three US Marines was
beaten into submission. That's the guy was talking about, the
guy with a weed whacker. In footage of the alleged
immigration enforcement operation, the guy is seen on the ground
in the middle of the street with two federal officers
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over him. Nearby, another four agents are seen subduing another man,
violently forcing him to the ground, while one of the
officers repeatedly strikes the man with a baton. Why are
they hitting him like that? One of the witnesses watching
from inside a vehicle can be heard saying as they
recorded the event. As more witnesses arrived, some driving by
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and honking their horns. Two agents moved toward a man
who walks up and begins questions and insults at one
of them. One of the agents is seen holding his
baton out horizontally as a blockade. What happened before the
witnesses began shooting the video is unknown. Both men are
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seen in cuffs as they were being led away by
federal law enforcement. The statement from federal officials suggests that
one was a Mexican national illegally president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's a quote.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He fled on foot for roughly a quarter mile before
agents were able to try to arrest him. A violent
mob then began pummeling law enforcement with the rocks. This
is all reading from the statement. One individual also assaulted
agents in an attempt to prevent the arrest of this guy.
Ariola is his name, while another started kicking the doors
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of the officers' vehicles. All subjects were placed under arrest
and transported to the Santa Ana detention facility. There have
been multiple reports of federal enforcement operations in and around
Santa Anna. The Santa Ana cops are urging residents to
contact them if they see any abandoned property like vehicles,
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food vendor supplies, or other items that they think may
belong to someone detained by federal agents. But the enforcement
provisions that are clearly being followed throughout Los Angeles, Orange County.
They are continuing, and you can see how the community
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around a lot of these people is not so good
across the board with what's happening. Again, I think it
runs the gamut. But what really got people on board
the immigration train, I think was what the southern border.
I mean, it just looked like such a problem joke.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It was.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Largely it seemed undefended, and it was a stream of
people coming across it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Now it's sealed.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Should have been sealed, and I think Democrats would have
helped them, says I don't know what he won the election,
but they would have helped themselves if they've been more
aggressive in that regard. But to now you have ICE
agents and there was a big bump for a homeland
security you probably saw it in this big beautiful bill,
a lot more money going into that world, and now
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you're seeing aggressive detainment of so many people who most
in the community are saying, Hey, I do know have
any problem with that guy? Why are you getting rid
of that guy? A man who worked as a translator
for US troops in Afghanistan is being detained. Federalations in
San Diego took him in. The man's name is Sayed Nasser.
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He was arrested by ICE agents following a mandatory immigration
hearing at the Federal courthouse and downtown San Diego. He
showed up at the courthouse as he was supposed to.
He was again a translator for US troops in Afghanistan.
His attorney says that he has a good chance of
proving he belongs in the US, but he's very despondent
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as he remains held in custody while he awaits that
court process. That's a glimpse of some of what's going on,
and that's just in the last week. When we come back,
Royal Oaks joins us, we'll talk about the Diddy Jerry
wavering on the racketeering charges having reached it would seem
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a verdict on the other charges, and what that might
mean for Sean Diddy Combs and his legal future. It
is the John Cobelt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in on
KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
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six forty.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Mark Thompson here for John Cobelt, who vacations this week. Well,
the news came across about an hour ago that the
jurors in the Sean Diddy Comb's trial have reached a
verdict on four of the charges. They seem hung up
on the rico charge, the racketeering charge.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Someone who can sort this all.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Out is here with us now, Royal Oaks, Hi, Royal, Hey, Mark.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Until you might take in a second. But I just
have to say, whenever I'm on with you, I feel
like it's James Old Jones interviewing Pewee Herman. So I'm
going to get over that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Thank you, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, yes, this Diddy jury, this shocked everybody. I mean
I thought that either they were going to find him
not guilty, like in two or three hours, you know,
we're out of here, get out of dodge, or you
know they'd slung through. They keep asking for more read back.
So here's what they did today. They announced a few
hours ago, Hey, honor, we've reached agreement on four counts
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sex trafficking and transporting women across state lines for illicit purposes.
But we just can't agree on that racketeering criminal enterprise thing,
so may we go home? And the judge said, no,
you may not go home. You try harder, you work
on it. So they're working on it. They could have
worked into the evening mark, but they are going to
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come back tomorrow morning. And here's the problem for comes
we're guessing, we're speculating. But if they found him guilty
of the lesser counts, well it would make sense that
may maybe they're struggling with racketeering. But if they found
him not guilty of the lesser counts, which of course
he's hoping for, why would they have trouble with the
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big enchalade of the say yeah, if you had to guess,
I would say they probably said, Okay, he's guilty, but
we can't agree on that on that racketeering' is like
twenty years till life. So we'll see. He's got a
very uncomfortable tossing and turning night in the Manhattan Federal jail.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, that's already a place where you're probably tossing and
turning to begin with. It's not the most comfortable place
for what I was reading. But that really does put
the specific narrative in place. So now if you were
betting on such things, I mean, just you know, it
seems as though likely that he'll end up.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Getting a guilty verda.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Let me just ask you the assuming that they vote
against it being a Rico situation, the charges that he
would then endure a guilty verdict on the other four
that's enough to send him away for a long time.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, for a long time. So sex trafficking is actually
fifteen years to life, but usually get closer to ten
to twelve based on a judge's discretion. Transporting women, you know,
it's a maximum of ten years, usually get two or
three years. But you know there are two women involved.
His girlfriend camp sees a tarrapus. The woman goes by
the name Jane in court, and so you know, he
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could be looking at fifteen, twenty twenty five years even
without the big one. And as for the big one, Mark,
you know, if they come back tomorrow, as is likely
unless they change their mind, if they come back tomorrow
and say you're on, they tried to, we tried and
they just can't do it, judge will probably say, okay,
we're gonna have a second trial, because that's usually what
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happens if it's the first trial, it's very rare that it.
Judge says, okay, they couldn't agree, just SMIs. So that
means he I mean, it's the ultimate Lewis lose for it.
He's found guilty of the small charges, the smaller charges,
and then there's another trial in two or three months.
This is total speculation. He may have been found not guilty. Sure,
you know, maybe they're confused, Maybe they just you know,
have a different perspective about racketeering. You don't know, but
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it's really nervous time for Sean cong.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They had a hiccup early on in the first day.
They end up in the first hour. I think it
was there was a question about a juror and an
instruction wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
How weird was that? So the foreman one hour into
the deliberations yesterday send a note to the judge saying, hey,
you know you're a twenty five. We think he should
kick him off. He's not really able to deliberate. Well,
why is that? Well, this is a really strong accent.
You know, we can't communicate with him. Really, you even
have a lunch with these people for seven weeks and
now an hour to deliberations you decide to be he
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can't communicate that suggested. You know, it's going to be
hard for these folks to agree because you know they say,
you know, life is junior high clicks, and you know,
I don't like this position because I don't like that
person with that position. But wow, they're unanimous on four
of the five counts. Anyway, they got past the European accent.
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Apparently the judge said, settle down, just you know, you'll
get along five.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And apparently the judge is right. So I want to
quickly just pivot you to the Brian Coburger case. That's
the Idaho murder. I mean, these University of Idaho students
that were murdered in their sleep, four of them. It's
a grizzly, awful thing. And I wanted to ask you
a deal has been made, it would seem, but the
family feels as they were left out of conversations around
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whether or not a deal should be done.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, the deal is the prosecution is agreed with the
defense that if this guy will plead guilty and go
to jail forever, no parole, life, then no death penalty.
And the families, some of them are not happy because
they think they wanted this guy to be executed. And
their attitude is, you know, he's going to wake up
every morning and look at the sunshine through the bars
and our family members are dead, and you can't blame
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them for feeling that. We don't know why the prosecution
would give up on a case with enormous DNA evidence.
I mean, this guy was clearly guilty, and we know
how Alverdy claims that he has Asperger's, a form of autism.
He's on the spectrum. The prosecution man thought, you know,
that's going to be enough to hang up the jury
and as a result, you know, no deal.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's just why I hate it when people mention aspars
and autism. My nephews on the Asperger's autism scale. He's
a brilliant, productive, amazing guy. You know, like there's no
need to even mention that he's on the Aspergers. I
always feel like it's kind of a smear on those
who have Aspergers and an autism of any kind because
there are more and more people are diagnosed with it.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
You know, well, that's a good point, and plus, I mean,
let's assume that the guy is on the spectrum to
the point where he has no empathy and you know,
doesn't care about people. Well, couldn't you say that about
most murderers? Are probably most killers sure don't don't have
any empathy. So is that a reason why we wouldn't
execute him?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So bottom line though, is this deal is kind of done,
and then everything the family's saying is just sort of
the stuff of things that are set around these kinds
of deals, and it just won't have any effect on
whether or not the judge ultimately accepts the deal.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Exactly. They're very unhappy that their wishes weren't taken into consideration,
that weren't consulted properly, and it's a ninety nine point
nine percent chance the judge will bless the plea deal.
So theoretically you could say no, I think there's a
big strong case for death. Fundaly, you guys are going
to travel youking it, but it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Royle, you're the best. Thanks for spending a few minutes
with us. Always appreciate you throwing in thank.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
You, thank you, appreciate it all right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Roy loaks from ABC News, And that's the story on
both Diddy and the Coldberger trial. When we come back.
We wrap up around here and maybe a word with
Conway next as well. It is the Mark Thompson sitting
in for John Coldbelt. I never know, I know, it's
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just what can I say? Staggering to the finish line.
It's the John Cobbot Joe Mark Thompson sitting in on
KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's the co Belt Show. Thompson here, just finishing up.
Noticed it's July first that is celebrated as a.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Bobby Bonia Day.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And the only thing you need to know about Bobby
Bonia Day, if you don't know what it is, is
that it is a day that has been given his
name and branded with the Bobby Bonia name because of
a deferred payment that he gets.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
He was a former Mets ballplayer.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
The Mets bought out his contract essentially, and they agreed
to defer the remaining salary with interest, leading to annual payments,
and these payments go until twenty thirty five. The payment
is one point one nine million dollars on today, July first,
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and I think it was embarrassing to the Mets for
a long time, but now they kind of celebrate it,
you know. I think in New York it's kind of
a big deal. But instead of paying him five point
nine million on his contract, they agreed to defer the
payments with eight percent interest over twenty five years. And
that's why every July, right, Eric, that's what this day is. Yep,
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Bobby Bonia Day.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
You know what's coming up in twenty thirty four, what's
that show Hao Tani day? The Dodgers are gonna have
to pay up their deferred payments to show Hey, starting
in twenty thirty four. Wow, so he's getting paid two
million dollars a year up until twenty thirty four, and
then in twenty thirty four, the Dodgers are going to
have to pay him sixty eight million dollars till twenty
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forty three. So the Dodgers are going to have their
own Bobby Bonio Day. Was Shoe Hao Tani.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Wow, you're right, And it's even as a far more
expensive day as it turns out.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, but it's worth it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I think it is worth I mean, he really
is paying dividends to the Dodgers. I'm talking about not
only I'm leaving aside as a ballplayer, just as a
marketing thing.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
There's no question.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, in his first season last year, I believe the
Dodgers made like one hundred and fifty million dollars in
advertising revenue just off of.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know, every time battery gets up to Eric's point
and you see all these placards and by now you
can they add them, you know, just to it's a
technical ad, right, they bring it up on like a
chroma key type thing, and all of these ads pop
up when everybody's at bat. Well, when Shohey is at bat,
there are twice as many of those things, and they're
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cycling through much more quickly. They're clearly selling all of
that signage, that electronic signage. And so you're right, just
the uptick in revenue far outpaces their financial commitment to him,
even as heavy as it is. So I ran across
one thing that I wanted to leave you with just
because it peaked my curiosity. The question is why aren't
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Italians as obese as Americans? That's the headline. I thought, Oh,
I didn't know that the Italians aren't as obese as Americans,
but it's not what they eat. They say, it's a
whole lifestyle thing. And Italians eat more fish than Americans do,
sixty four pounds per person per year. Americans have forty
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nine pounds on average per year. They drink quite a
bit less alcohol. It's noted here. This is again according
to the World Health Organization, and according to the International
Pasta Organization. And yeah, I didn't know there was an
International pasta organization either. Italians eat more pasta than anyone
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on Earth, fifty one point two pounds per person per year,
Americans nineteen point four pounds. So vegetables are big part
of the Mediterranean diet. Italians don't really eat more vegetables
than Americans do, but they eat much less meat Americans
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eat sixty seven percent more. Italians also eat slightly added sugar.
It's noted seventy one pounds per person. God, it still
seems like a lot compared to seventy four point three
pounds in the US. So we have like three pounds
of sugar more. Italians drink less soda. It's hard to
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find comparable data, but US consumers buy an average of
about thirty seven gallons of soda a year about three
times as much as Italians do, and they certainly don't
eat low carb right with all that positive, but Italians
get a slightly higher percentage of calories from carbs than
Americans do. Anyway, the American style weight gain, they say,
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is that really more than anything. We just eat more
than they do. It's not that we eat differently, it's
just that we eat more. And I get it. I
hate to say, it's kind of one of the things
I like about this country. We have a lot of
it's you know, it's big portions. It's like it's like
we're all in Texas, man, you know, as much as
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you want. But I guess the putting a governor on
your intake is the key part. And so even within Italy,
Northern Italy, southernly, it all changes. But the food culture
of Italy apparently doesn't lead to the obesity problems that
we have in the US. And it relates to portion size,
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I guess at the end of it all. Anyway, a
hefty portion of the Conway Show, O wait you check
it out, Crozier and Conway and Bellio and Steph and
Crew and Angel all of it next thanks to the
co belt crew. You guys have been great all week
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and we will see you tomorrow. We're KFI AM six
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Mark Thompson sitting in.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Uh, you know, we got news and you just heard
from Deborah about the fact that the jury has reached
a verdict on most of the charges involving Sean you
can call me Diddy Combs. They have not reached a
verdict on the racketeering charge. The four other charges sex trafficking,
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the transportation to a game of prostitution, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
They have.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Reached apparently a consensus on that, but there appears to
be and they've been sent home for the day. Right,
They've been sent home for the night.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I guess, and they will be back at it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, I'm sure they're going to. I mean, this is
going to be done tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
They want their Fourth of July holidays.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You mean they want justice? Isn't that what you mean
to say?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
They want justice they just wanted before the vacation. Yes, So,
racketeering is a you know, that's the rico that you
hear so much about.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Racketeering.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Influenced and Corrupt Organizations act is rico, and it basically
means that you're running an organized scheme to commit crimes.
Either you're running or you're participating in it, right. Usually
it's with a bunch of people or some kind of
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organized enterprise. Bribery, fraud, drug trafficking, money laundering, violence, These
are all the things that are the racketeering. Usually, again
you'll a lot in mob trials, in drug trials.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So with Combs, the allegation is that he used his
businesses and employees or associates of those businesses to run
this large pattern of illegal activity. Sexual assault, intimidation, drug
related activity, the human trafficking. We've heard about all these
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things in relations to the Sean Combs trial.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So prosecutors are saying that these aren't random. This isn't
like isolated one offs that we've kind of put together
in a you know, connect the dots way. This is
a coordinated system where Shawn Combs Ditty maintained a power,
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a control, and even a profit through these crimes repeatedly.
So they argue that essentially, they're arguing that Ditty is
like the boss of a criminal enterprise.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That is what RICO is about. Right.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So it might have been disguised they would say as
a legitimate entertainment enterprise, but it's actually a criminal enterprise.
So people under him, under his control, in his employee,
helped carry out repeated crimes for him, or they carried
him out with him. That's how racketeering laws can apply
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to P Diddy. It's about the pattern, the organization, the
ongoing nature of the alleged crimes. It's not just a
single illegal act. So this is where the jury is
hung up. But it sounds as though they've not only
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reached a verdict on these other charges, but it sounds
as though the buzz in the hallway here at iHeart
the mother Ship, the buzz is earlier today, the buzz
was he's going to walk. Now the buzz is he's
(03:56):
maybe going to get wrung up. Sean Homes may end
up in prison. So all those people whose opinions I
so respect, who are making their way through the hallway
going Nope, he's gonna walk, he's getting out. Nope, he
time served. Now many of those same people are saying no,
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Sean Diddy Combs may face many years in prison.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That is the conventional thinking right now.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So we'll talk to Royal Oaks, bottom of this hour
and we'll get an idea of the legal side of this.
You know, this is a google able thing, but you know,
Deborah was mentioning that they are kind of in a
hurry to get out of there. They've been involved in
this for a long time. Fourth of July weekend, et cetera.
But here's the google able thing, Like, I wonder what
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percentage of this would be hard you have to phrase
it just the right way, but what percentage of juries
that come in with a verdict within the first couple
of days generally render guilty verdicts versus how many render acquittals.
You know, like whenever there was a you remember, you
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name the high profile case it could be, and you go, oh,
j Simpson, if you want to go there, like they're going,
let's see, the jury.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Has been out for three days. What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Does that mean that they, based on that amount of time,
might offer a fill in the blank verdict, acquittal, a
guilty verdict, et cetera. So here you've got the this
is on the second day of deliberation and it looks
like they have a conclusion. Again, statistically, I wonder whether
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that would suggest an acquittal or a guilty verdict.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That's a good question for Royal.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh thank you. Oh my good note question for Royal.
If I forget it, you'll.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Will I will remind you. Yeah, thank you very much,
because I want to know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Actually yeah, and you know, when they ask to hear
transcripts from the testimonies of in this case, this Cassie
Ventura Combs, his former girlfriend, and also the Daniel Phillips
guy who was a male escort involved in one of
those freak offs. You know, I wonder if that in
itself is anything we can you know, gather might point
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to an acquittal or a guilty verdict. So anyway, we'll
ask Royal bottom of the hour. And again, remember there
were drugs involved here, there's violence involved here, so there's
a lot here to perhaps support a coherent Rico charge.
But maybe the jury's feeling like, yeah, it doesn't quite
maybe meet the standard for the rico conviction. But there
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again the other charges that they have reached a consensus on.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I do like that the jury is taking this seriously,
not because it's this particular case, but I do think
that if you're going to be on a jury, because
I know that some jurors have kind of gotten a
bad rap, but it is nice to see that they're
they're really taking this seriously and they want to make
sure that they come up with the decision that they
(07:09):
can all live with.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I agree, you know, especially when we see some of
these verdicts and you examine general jury behavior and it
seems like they're not really that serious about it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So you're right, they're serious.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But you're also saying that you think they want to
get out of there before the fourth one.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well, yes, I mean that that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But justice comes second, right after my fourth of July plans.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Right, I get it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
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Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was looking at the fact that the the community
in Culver City has rallied around this ice cream vendor.
You see this guy detained by federal agents. Hundreds of people,
political leaders at the veteran memorial that gathered to demand
his release. Enrique, as he's known locally, taken from his
(08:14):
ice cream cart last week in what witnesses are describing
as an operation involving masked agents in unmarked vehicles. The
vendor had sold popsicles and pleetas frozen treats made with
fresh fruit at this Culver City park for nearly two decades.
(08:37):
His niece said, right now, my uncle, with so many
people out here, this is so inhumane. What's happening to
a lot of people. It's not okay. People are criticized
in the manner of the detention, Guys snatched, kidnapped folks, masked,
unmarked cars, no warrants. Community members describing him as generous,
(08:58):
often giving free to children who couldn't afford them. They
acknowledge he was not a US citizen, but they emphasized
that he posted no threat to the community, had no
criminal record. The whole community here is supporting my uncle,
said another niece. Not only my uncle, but the Palaterios.
(09:20):
Everybody in the community grew up with. I guess the
Palataro's are like people who hand out the fruit, the
frozen fruit. Anyway, family members are collecting character statements. They're
going to petition for a bond hearing in Texas. That's
where he's being held. And his niece is optimistic once
(09:42):
we post bond for him and he's out, we know
he's going to be okay. It's just one of the cases.
We're hearing about. The dude with the weed whacker. Remember
that guy, the landscaper who was struck and arrested. They
said that they had been assaulted with the weed trimmer,
(10:04):
and then there was video of the guy just running away.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But anyway, there was another.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Violent confrontation appears to be masked federal agents again in
Santa Anna. Again, this is a little more than a
week after the father of those three US Marines was
beaten into submission. That's the guy was talking about, the
guy with a weed whacker. In footage of the alleged
immigration enforcement operation, the guy is seen on the ground
in the middle of the street with two federal officers
(10:32):
over him. Nearby, another four agents are seen subduing another man,
violently forcing him to the ground, while one of the
officers repeatedly strikes the man with a baton. Why are
they hitting him like that? One of the witnesses watching
from inside a vehicle can be heard saying as they
recorded the event. As more witnesses arrived, some driving by
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and honking their horns. Two agents moved toward a man
who walks up and begins questions and insults at one
of them. One of the agents is seen holding his
baton out horizontally as a blockade. What happened before the
witnesses began shooting the video is unknown. Both men are
(11:17):
seen in cuffs as they were being led away by
federal law enforcement. The statement from federal officials suggests that
one was a Mexican national illegally president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's a quote.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He fled on foot for roughly a quarter mile before
agents were able to try to arrest him. A violent
mob then began pummeling law enforcement with the rocks. This
is all reading from the statement. One individual also assaulted
agents in an attempt to prevent the arrest of this guy.
Ariola is his name, while another started kicking the doors
(11:58):
of the officers' vehicles. All subjects were placed under arrest
and transported to the Santa Ana detention facility. There have
been multiple reports of federal enforcement operations in and around
Santa Anna. The Santa Ana cops are urging residents to
contact them if they see any abandoned property like vehicles,
(12:19):
food vendor supplies, or other items that they think may
belong to someone detained by federal agents. But the enforcement
provisions that are clearly being followed throughout Los Angeles, Orange County.
They are continuing, and you can see how the community
(12:39):
around a lot of these people is not so good
across the board with what's happening. Again, I think it
runs the gamut. But what really got people on board
the immigration train, I think was what the southern border.
I mean, it just looked like such a problem joke.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It was.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Largely it seemed undefended, and it was a stream of
people coming across it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Now it's sealed.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Should have been sealed, and I think Democrats would have
helped them, says I don't know what he won the election,
but they would have helped themselves if they've been more
aggressive in that regard. But to now you have ICE
agents and there was a big bump for a homeland
security you probably saw it in this big beautiful bill,
a lot more money going into that world, and now
(13:30):
you're seeing aggressive detainment of so many people who most
in the community are saying, Hey, I do know have
any problem with that guy? Why are you getting rid
of that guy? A man who worked as a translator
for US troops in Afghanistan is being detained. Federalations in
San Diego took him in. The man's name is Sayed Nasser.
(13:54):
He was arrested by ICE agents following a mandatory immigration
hearing at the Federal courthouse and downtown San Diego. He
showed up at the courthouse as he was supposed to.
He was again a translator for US troops in Afghanistan.
His attorney says that he has a good chance of
proving he belongs in the US, but he's very despondent
(14:18):
as he remains held in custody while he awaits that
court process. That's a glimpse of some of what's going on,
and that's just in the last week. When we come back,
Royal Oaks joins us, we'll talk about the Diddy Jerry
wavering on the racketeering charges having reached it would seem
(14:39):
a verdict on the other charges, and what that might
mean for Sean Diddy Combs and his legal future. It
is the John Cobelt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in on
KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Mark Thompson here for John Cobelt, who vacations this week. Well,
the news came across about an hour ago that the
jurors in the Sean Diddy Comb's trial have reached a
verdict on four of the charges. They seem hung up
on the rico charge, the racketeering charge.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Someone who can sort this all.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Out is here with us now, Royal Oaks, Hi, Royal, Hey, Mark.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Until you might take in a second. But I just
have to say, whenever I'm on with you, I feel
like it's James Old Jones interviewing Pewee Herman. So I'm
going to get over that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Thank you, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, yes, this Diddy jury, this shocked everybody. I mean
I thought that either they were going to find him
not guilty, like in two or three hours, you know,
we're out of here, get out of dodge, or you
know they'd slung through. They keep asking for more read back.
So here's what they did today. They announced a few
hours ago, Hey, honor, we've reached agreement on four counts
(16:06):
sex trafficking and transporting women across state lines for illicit purposes.
But we just can't agree on that racketeering criminal enterprise thing,
so may we go home? And the judge said, no,
you may not go home. You try harder, you work
on it. So they're working on it. They could have
worked into the evening mark, but they are going to
(16:27):
come back tomorrow morning. And here's the problem for comes
we're guessing, we're speculating. But if they found him guilty
of the lesser counts, well it would make sense that
may maybe they're struggling with racketeering. But if they found
him not guilty of the lesser counts, which of course
he's hoping for, why would they have trouble with the
(16:48):
big enchalade of the say yeah, if you had to guess,
I would say they probably said, Okay, he's guilty, but
we can't agree on that on that racketeering' is like
twenty years till life. So we'll see. He's got a
very uncomfortable tossing and turning night in the Manhattan Federal jail.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, that's already a place where you're probably tossing and
turning to begin with. It's not the most comfortable place
for what I was reading. But that really does put
the specific narrative in place. So now if you were
betting on such things, I mean, just you know, it
seems as though likely that he'll end up.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Getting a guilty verda.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Let me just ask you the assuming that they vote
against it being a Rico situation, the charges that he
would then endure a guilty verdict on the other four
that's enough to send him away for a long time.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, for a long time. So sex trafficking is actually
fifteen years to life, but usually get closer to ten
to twelve based on a judge's discretion. Transporting women, you know,
it's a maximum of ten years, usually get two or
three years. But you know there are two women involved.
His girlfriend camp sees a tarrapus. The woman goes by
the name Jane in court, and so you know, he
(18:05):
could be looking at fifteen, twenty twenty five years even
without the big one. And as for the big one, Mark,
you know, if they come back tomorrow, as is likely
unless they change their mind, if they come back tomorrow
and say you're on, they tried to, we tried and
they just can't do it, judge will probably say, okay,
we're gonna have a second trial, because that's usually what
(18:25):
happens if it's the first trial, it's very rare that it.
Judge says, okay, they couldn't agree, just SMIs. So that
means he I mean, it's the ultimate Lewis lose for it.
He's found guilty of the small charges, the smaller charges,
and then there's another trial in two or three months.
This is total speculation. He may have been found not guilty. Sure,
you know, maybe they're confused, Maybe they just you know,
have a different perspective about racketeering. You don't know, but
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it's really nervous time for Sean cong.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They had a hiccup early on in the first day.
They end up in the first hour. I think it
was there was a question about a juror and an
instruction wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
How weird was that? So the foreman one hour into
the deliberations yesterday send a note to the judge saying, hey,
you know you're a twenty five. We think he should
kick him off. He's not really able to deliberate. Well,
why is that? Well, this is a really strong accent.
You know, we can't communicate with him. Really, you even
have a lunch with these people for seven weeks and
now an hour to deliberations you decide to be he
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can't communicate that suggested. You know, it's going to be
hard for these folks to agree because you know they say,
you know, life is junior high clicks, and you know,
I don't like this position because I don't like that
person with that position. But wow, they're unanimous on four
of the five counts. Anyway, they got past the European accent.
(19:44):
Apparently the judge said, settle down, just you know, you'll
get along five.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And apparently the judge is right. So I want to
quickly just pivot you to the Brian Coburger case. That's
the Idaho murder. I mean, these University of Idaho students
that were murdered in their sleep, four of them. It's
a grizzly, awful thing. And I wanted to ask you
a deal has been made, it would seem, but the
family feels as they were left out of conversations around
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whether or not a deal should be done.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, the deal is the prosecution is agreed with the
defense that if this guy will plead guilty and go
to jail forever, no parole, life, then no death penalty.
And the families, some of them are not happy because
they think they wanted this guy to be executed. And
their attitude is, you know, he's going to wake up
every morning and look at the sunshine through the bars
and our family members are dead, and you can't blame
(20:36):
them for feeling that. We don't know why the prosecution
would give up on a case with enormous DNA evidence.
I mean, this guy was clearly guilty, and we know
how Alverdy claims that he has Asperger's, a form of autism.
He's on the spectrum. The prosecution man thought, you know,
that's going to be enough to hang up the jury
and as a result, you know, no deal.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's just why I hate it when people mention aspars
and autism. My nephews on the Asperger's autism scale. He's
a brilliant, productive, amazing guy. You know, like there's no
need to even mention that he's on the Aspergers. I
always feel like it's kind of a smear on those
who have Aspergers and an autism of any kind because
there are more and more people are diagnosed with it.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
You know, well, that's a good point, and plus, I mean,
let's assume that the guy is on the spectrum to
the point where he has no empathy and you know,
doesn't care about people. Well, couldn't you say that about
most murderers? Are probably most killers sure don't don't have
any empathy. So is that a reason why we wouldn't
execute him?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So bottom line though, is this deal is kind of done,
and then everything the family's saying is just sort of
the stuff of things that are set around these kinds
of deals, and it just won't have any effect on
whether or not the judge ultimately accepts the deal.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Exactly. They're very unhappy that their wishes weren't taken into consideration,
that weren't consulted properly, and it's a ninety nine point
nine percent chance the judge will bless the plea deal.
So theoretically you could say no, I think there's a
big strong case for death. Fundaly, you guys are going
to travel youking it, but it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Royle, you're the best. Thanks for spending a few minutes
with us. Always appreciate you throwing in thank.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
You, thank you, appreciate it all right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Roy loaks from ABC News, And that's the story on
both Diddy and the Coldberger trial. When we come back.
We wrap up around here and maybe a word with
Conway next as well. It is the Mark Thompson sitting
in for John Coldbelt. I never know, I know, it's
(22:38):
just what can I say? Staggering to the finish line.
It's the John Cobbot Joe Mark Thompson sitting in on
KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's the co Belt Show. Thompson here, just finishing up.
Noticed it's July first that is celebrated as a.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Bobby Bonia Day.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And the only thing you need to know about Bobby
Bonia Day, if you don't know what it is, is
that it is a day that has been given his
name and branded with the Bobby Bonia name because of
a deferred payment that he gets.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
He was a former Mets ballplayer.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
The Mets bought out his contract essentially, and they agreed
to defer the remaining salary with interest, leading to annual payments,
and these payments go until twenty thirty five. The payment
is one point one nine million dollars on today, July first,
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and I think it was embarrassing to the Mets for
a long time, but now they kind of celebrate it,
you know. I think in New York it's kind of
a big deal. But instead of paying him five point
nine million on his contract, they agreed to defer the
payments with eight percent interest over twenty five years. And
that's why every July, right, Eric, that's what this day is. Yep,
(24:10):
Bobby Bonia Day.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
You know what's coming up in twenty thirty four, what's
that show Hao Tani day? The Dodgers are gonna have
to pay up their deferred payments to show Hey, starting
in twenty thirty four. Wow, so he's getting paid two
million dollars a year up until twenty thirty four, and
then in twenty thirty four, the Dodgers are going to
have to pay him sixty eight million dollars till twenty
(24:35):
forty three. So the Dodgers are going to have their
own Bobby Bonio Day. Was Shoe Hao Tani.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Wow, you're right, And it's even as a far more
expensive day as it turns out.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, but it's worth it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I think it is worth I mean, he really
is paying dividends to the Dodgers. I'm talking about not
only I'm leaving aside as a ballplayer, just as a
marketing thing.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
There's no question.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, in his first season last year, I believe the
Dodgers made like one hundred and fifty million dollars in
advertising revenue just off of.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know, every time battery gets up to Eric's point
and you see all these placards and by now you
can they add them, you know, just to it's a
technical ad, right, they bring it up on like a
chroma key type thing, and all of these ads pop
up when everybody's at bat. Well, when Shohey is at bat,
there are twice as many of those things, and they're
(25:22):
cycling through much more quickly. They're clearly selling all of
that signage, that electronic signage. And so you're right, just
the uptick in revenue far outpaces their financial commitment to him,
even as heavy as it is. So I ran across
one thing that I wanted to leave you with just
because it peaked my curiosity. The question is why aren't
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Italians as obese as Americans? That's the headline. I thought, Oh,
I didn't know that the Italians aren't as obese as Americans,
but it's not what they eat. They say, it's a
whole lifestyle thing. And Italians eat more fish than Americans do,
sixty four pounds per person per year. Americans have forty
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nine pounds on average per year. They drink quite a
bit less alcohol. It's noted here. This is again according
to the World Health Organization, and according to the International
Pasta Organization. And yeah, I didn't know there was an
International pasta organization either. Italians eat more pasta than anyone
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on Earth, fifty one point two pounds per person per year,
Americans nineteen point four pounds. So vegetables are big part
of the Mediterranean diet. Italians don't really eat more vegetables
than Americans do, but they eat much less meat Americans
(26:55):
eat sixty seven percent more. Italians also eat slightly added sugar.
It's noted seventy one pounds per person. God, it still
seems like a lot compared to seventy four point three
pounds in the US. So we have like three pounds
of sugar more. Italians drink less soda. It's hard to
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find comparable data, but US consumers buy an average of
about thirty seven gallons of soda a year about three
times as much as Italians do, and they certainly don't
eat low carb right with all that positive, but Italians
get a slightly higher percentage of calories from carbs than
Americans do. Anyway, the American style weight gain, they say,
(27:43):
is that really more than anything. We just eat more
than they do. It's not that we eat differently, it's
just that we eat more. And I get it. I
hate to say, it's kind of one of the things
I like about this country. We have a lot of
it's you know, it's big portions. It's like it's like
we're all in Texas, man, you know, as much as
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you want. But I guess the putting a governor on
your intake is the key part. And so even within Italy,
Northern Italy, southernly, it all changes. But the food culture
of Italy apparently doesn't lead to the obesity problems that
we have in the US. And it relates to portion size,
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I guess at the end of it all. Anyway, a
hefty portion of the Conway Show, O wait you check
it out, Crozier and Conway and Bellio and Steph and
Crew and Angel all of it next thanks to the
co belt crew. You guys have been great all week
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