May 7, 2026 • 29 mins
Mehmet Oz joins John Kobylt to expose massive healthcare fraud schemes across the country and weigh in on the recent federal drug raid at MacArthur Park. Plus, Conan Nolan presses California’s gubernatorial candidates on high-speed rail as Xavier Becerra sparks controversy with a confusing response — while former administration official Xochitl Hinojosa questions whether he would stand up to Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app and Spencer Pratt, who
won by a mile the debate last night against Karen
Bass and Nitthia Ramin. He was on with us the
whole first hour. We did a live stream on YouTube.
He just recorded it and put it up so you
could watch it if you missed it. Right now, though,
(00:22):
don't go anywhere. Listen to me first, and then you
could listen to me later. Doctor Mehmet Oz is coming on.
He is the Center. He's the head of the Center
from Medicare and Medicaid Services, the chief administrator in the
Trump administration. He has been leading the charge against all
the massive fraud in Medicaid and Medicare and health services.
(00:44):
Here in California. The government, well the federal taxpayers, are
getting built at of billions of dollars by all the
criminals that Newsom has allowed to organize these massive hospice
fraud rings. Let's get doctor Oz on. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
How are you, doctor, Well, thanks for having me on.
I'll tell you I have spent a couple of days
here in La I started coming here quite a bit
in early January because we were looking at the hot spots
for fraud in the country and just to put this
on everyone's radar in the right context. If we take
out the fraud in Medicare and Medicare, we're talking about
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one hundred billion dollars per year, And to put that
in context that everyone can process, be there's a lot
of money. If you're working your tail off right now,
you think you're going to retire on Medicare and you're
worried it's not going to be there for you, which
is a good number of folks. We will double the
life expectancy of the Medicare Trust Fund that funds Medicare
if we deal with this fraud. So the issues I'm
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about to talk about are germane to your future, to
your pocketbook. It's a major way to make healthcare affordable.
And a lot of the corruption that we see destroying
the healthcare system starts because you tolerate fraud. And that's
exactly what's happening here in California where I know we're
going to talk about hospice. Although I was part of
witness the DEA and and US attorney who's wonderful here
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in Los Angeles, Bill Asily. You know, I witnessed them
take MacArthur Park to turn it into a park again
and removed not just homeless folks who are addicted the drugs,
but the cartels running that area and making a fortune
off the American taxpayer. They literally put their numbers, their
logos are on the buildings because they basically own that
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part of LA and no one seems to care. And
that's what the President is so upset about. That's why
he created a White House Anti Frog Task Force to
address these issues. And we're going to keep coming back
as much as we need to to help the people
at California defend themselves against their own government.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes, I know, that's exactly what we need, because if
the Trump administration doesn't do it, we're all screwed here
because we've been completely abandoned by the Newsom and the
Bass administrations. So let's talk about the MacArthur Park bust
because that is the newest thing that's going on this week.
The drug cartels have, as you said, just own the
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park and they own the properties around the park. Now,
with the bust up of these criminals, how does that
change things? How do new gangs don't move in and
take over the turf and start up the whole machine
again next week.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, if you want to cut the head of the
hydra off, you go to the Cinaloa cartel. That's where
the fentinyl's coming from. And so these wonderful law enforcement
guys and you're again the Fosston Defective General. Department of
Justice FBI auditioned and this is all coordinators through DEA.
This time they went and found nineteen kilos a fentinl
Let me just put that again in terms everyone gets
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that's enough fentinel to kill one hundred and ninety thousand Americans.
Massive they take these these safehouses where they store the
fentinel that's come across the border from Mexico. And again
this is the organized crime in foreign countries. This is
you know, China, Mexico. These folks are making money off
this and they dole it out to these bodegas that
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are right along MacArthur Park down. MacArthur Park used to be,
you know, nice place four decades ago, but right now
you should not walk around in that area. I certainly
wasn't allowed to. And so when they swept through there,
they had search warrants to open up six of those
shops where they actually store the fentinel. Then they dole
it out in smaller aliquats to the attics. Now the
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Attics they make their money to pay for this because
it costs between forty and seventy bucks a hit. They
have to go to the home depot this nearby our
other stops and steal things. They can steal up to
one thousand dollars. They know this, they won't go to jail.
We have half the number of people in jail in
California as there were ten years ago. Half, So they
know they won't go to jail because no one does.
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And so they're going to steal from the community, to
destroy the community, transfer that to these bodegos, so then
ship it up to the cinealower cartels. Again, different gangs
controlled different blocks. I was on the eighteen block, so
that gang controls They had big eight teams everywhere controls
that space. Everyone knows it. And so this is again
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we have wholesale allowed other countries and criminal organizations to
take ownership of parts of Los Angeles. The federal government
cannot tolerate that. And as often as the case if
there's a disaster. We have to step in, and that's
what's happening. You're witnessing it. I'm out the police chief,
King God bless them, and brought LAPD with them because
they're stick and tired of this. It's not that we're
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going against law enforcement in California. Folks, especially the LAPD,
wants us to come help them. They're stick and tired
of prosecutors not taking these folks out. And I spoke
at the press conference about Secretary Kennedy who his father
was murdered here in nineteen sixty eight after the primary
Senator Kennedy and when RFK was thirteen years old, and
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he became a drug addict after that, and he talks
about this publicly. So the demons that take you over
when you're on drugs, they don't go away. When you
take a hit. You don't feel good. When you're on drugs,
you feel relief. What we have done in California is
farm homelessness, farm drug addiction. You pay people to make
it easier for them to stay on drugs, so they
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can then buy their drugs from cartels who then ship
the money back to their countries, taking advantage of us.
I don't see where the American people win here. I
don't understand why people in Los Angeles wouldn't go up
in arms rebel against this and any part of this
is because they've they've been, it's been normalized, they've done.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
We spend tax money and we give them crack pipes,
and we give them we give them the crack pipes,
and what else do we give them the needles?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But let's be clear, showers, food, you know, you give
them everything they need except what they need to get better.
That's called enabling and that's exactly what I witness. And again,
I'm a doctor. I've been around the open air drug markets.
I've been to the tenderloind in San Francisco. I'm from Philadelphia.
We have the largest open air drug market in Kensington
and the East coasts where the train tracks come together.
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People do hundreds of thousands of dollars of business under
those train tracks, under the overpasses. I understand this business.
I've been covering it for years. I used to cover
it on my show. It's criminal, it's wrong, But you
have to actually be brave enough to stand up and
deal with the fundamental infrastructure issues that lead to these
issues and these criminal activities if tolerated, if they're normalized,
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the average person starts to believe that they date nihilism
takes over. They stopped that, they start believing that it's
not going to make a difference. And so the president
came in and this is a This gets them really hot,
and he said, we're just not going to allow people
from other countries to take advantage of us. And so
he's done things, for example at the border to make
sure that at least is there's a border. But this
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it stands into business enterprises that if I'll get Candy move,
I'm going to shock you. I just came from a
setting in how Would where there's these two homes. There
are two buildings where they housed fake hospice uh and
fake radiology. I say fake because they didn't actually take
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care of anybody. They generated fifty eight million dollars of
bills without providing service. Now, the people behind this fraud
were foreigners who came to this country became naturalized US citizens,
but they would hire j one diesel holders who aren't
supposed to run these businesses as the nominal owners of
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the business. They defrauded us. We finally got them they
actually just got sentenced. But interestingly, they transferred that fifty
eight million dollars about six million dollars of gold bricks,
gold bullion, and so they were transporting it in their
suitcases back to their home country. They were going back
to their where they came from. They left the place
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that was in you know, a train wreck. They came
to America, this beautiful nation that takes care of folks
who come here. They took advantage of us. They disobeyed
our laws. They stole from our most vulnerable. They hurt
people on Medicare or and Medicaid. They didn't believe it
or not, we're leaving with gold in their suitcases. You
have to be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, can you hang on another segments?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Because yeah, I guess I ain't.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Can hanging on a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It gets me going as you can put.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, no, that's great. Uh, let's just say, I guess
I do news and a few commercials. We'll come back
with doctor Meminaz and he's the chief administrator for the
Center for Medicare and Medicaid Big Bust in MacArthur Park.
As you heard about a lot of hospices, fake hospices
are being taken out as well in LA.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Continue with doctor Oz here. Doctor Memid Oz is the
chief administrator for the Center of Medicare and Medicaid Services.
He's been leading the charge to bust up all the
hospice fraud in Los Angeles and also part of the
great investigation into MacArthur Park and all the drugs being
sold there by the gangs. There was a big federal
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takedown this week, doctor Oz. A few days ago news
broke that you sent letters to a number of states,
including California, they that they have to seriously tighten up
their anti fraud enforcement or there's going to be consequences.
(10:25):
Can you explain what the letter said?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I sent the letter on behalf of the White
House Anti Fraud Task Force to all fifty states, and
we did that on purpose because we think there's fraud
in a lot of states that we were checking and
testing to see if governors are willing to engage us. Now,
for everyone listening, this is really important. Medicare, which is
for old people. We pay the bills at the federal level.
When you pay federal tax dollars and he goes to us.
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We distributed, however, Medicaid, which is for poor people, folks
who are vulnerable. You know, they are taken care of
by the state. So the state pays bill and then
read the federal government reimbursed them. So it's like pushing
on a string. When you ask states to do things,
they don't have to do them. So we send a
litterary every state saying we want you to revalidate the
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people providing services. And the reason that's important is a
lot of the money in Medicaid doesn't go to hospitals
for doing hernia repairs or heart surgery, where you have
a licensed doctor in a setting that's been inspected, with
nurses that have degrees. That's all, you know, it's hard
to fake that. A lot of money, especially here in California,
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goes to things like personal care services. Now what are they?
You should remember what that word means, because you're going
to hear a lot about it from our administration. Personal
care services mean you're having trouble carrying your groceries up
the stairs, maybe, and the government says, hey, listen, don't
try too hard to carry those groceries because you could
hire your kid to carry the groceries. That's right. Things
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your family would normally do for you will pay them
to do for you. I know it sounds too good
to be true. It can only really happen in places
at California, but that is a massive business now. It's
the number one job in New York State. There's even
more people doing it in California because everyone wants to
hire their kids or their neighbor's kids if the neighbor
hires their kids, and so you basically have a jobs programmed.
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This is not a flaw. This is a feature for
the California government. They say, listen, if I can get
all these people employed and paid for by the federal government,
and then we can unionize them, which is what's happening. Now.
We've got a big ally doing really well on the
largesse of the federal tax payer, and this allows us
to grow very rapidly. And so the letter I sent
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was very clear, revalidate these people. Prove to us that
you know who they are. They're allowed to do whatever
services like driving someone to the hospital or more likely
to a doctor's office if it's a ilegitimate, and prove
to us that they're actually doing these in a way
that you're auditing so we know the money is not
being thrown away. We have high levels of suspicion based
on Minnesota, where we already started this process, that twenty
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percent of people that you're paying to take care of
their neighbors aren't allowed to do that, don't have the
credentials or anything frankly that would allow them to be
trusted to do that service. We're going to shut those down.
But the test to the States is to let us
know by this week and by the end of this week,
are you willing to play ball with us or not?
And if you don't want to actually audit these providers
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that you should be doing anyway, then we'll be coming
after you.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Have you heard from Newsom since he filed that civil
rights complain against you for pointing out that Armenian organized
crime is behind a lot of the hospice run.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I was shocked, and that was the response. If someone
from the federal government came and pointed to you a
problem that your own auditors had told you about years earlier,
that you'd taken trivial action against it all that time.
If I just pointed out to you where the ball's hidden.
You think you the least act on it. Instead they're
doing the opposite. No, I haven't heard from him, and
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it's sort of shocking because as what I have learned
more about is the simple, basic things you would do
to reduce hospice fraud. In California, they've actually been blocking.
In Sacramento. I'll give you an example. The state Department
of Health said, we don't want doctors to be able
to be at more than one hospice. Again, think about that.
If a doctor is working at a hospice, they should
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work at that hospice. Why would a doctor have ten hospices.
They would only be doing it if someone was bribing
them to pretend that people were actually dying, because no
doctor would work at ten hospices. You just work at
one big hospice. And so the state had said they
were going to change the rule so that doctors can
only work at one hospice. Everyone agreed, there was a
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public comment, and something happened on December nineteenth that nobody
will talk about in sacramental And I'm serious. I've been
pursuing this. No one in law enforcement, no one in
the legislature, no one understands but someone very senior in
the government pulled that rule down and prevented it from
going into effect January first. It would have taken out
a lot of the fraud in californ Instead, once again,
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the federal government has to come to the rescue. We've
now delisted hundreds and hundreds of hostices, well a little longer,
allowing them to bill.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You guys are doing fantastic work, Doctor Osh, Thanks for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
God bless you. Take care all right.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Doctor Memdoz with the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services,
he's the chief administrator there. Next up packed show, it's
you know, election week. Ballots are in people's kitchens. John
McKinney's coming on. He ran for deputy, He ran for
a district attorney a few years ago. Now he's running
for city attorney. John McKinney is coming on next.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What a day we had today. We had Spencer Predah
for a whole hour, a day after his smashing performance
in the debate against Karen Bass and Nitthia Rahman. The
psychosisters made them look small and stupid, didn't he? He
knows what he's talking about, and he's saying everything that
we all see with our own eyes. And the ballots
(16:05):
are in your home, so put in a vote for him,
that would be the smart.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Thing to do.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You saw those two bass and the comedy team of
Bass and Ramen. Oh my god. I'm gonna play a
lot of the clips because I love analyzing the tricks
of politicians who are pathological liars, all their tricks of evasions,
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all their double talk. So we'll get into that next hour.
And also John McKinney's coming on. He's a bit delayed.
John McKinney. We had him on a few years ago,
a couple of times. He was one of the best
candidates I thought for Deputy DA. Nathan Hockman ended up
being the winner and ultimately beat George Gascone. But John
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McKinnie is a good man and he's running for city
Attorney right now. So we're going to talk with John
coming up in a few minutes. In the meantime, there
was a second debate last night. It was a governor's debate.
There was a CNN governor's debate two days ago. Yesterday
was one on NBC and a couple of things. I
(17:20):
told you that Jabier, but Sarah is California's version of
Joe Biden, just one of these dud bureaucrat guys who's
been bouncing around. Something flukey happens and suddenly he's the
top Democratic candidate for governor. But he really is. He's
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really bad at his job. And he got nominated by
Joe Biden to be in charge of Health and Human
Services and he was no good. It was it was
during COVID and even Biden thought this guy's this guy's
a bust. He's bad, and they wanted to fire him.
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And what they did is they ended up just putting
him in a dark closet, not getting him much to
do because he's he's just no good. He's kind of dumb.
He may be corrupt, but that's for another day. Colon
Nolan from Channel four was asking the candidates if they
would finish high speed rail simply yes or no question.
(18:25):
Here is as Joe Biden would say. Javier Baccharia his answer.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
It'll cost another thirty billion to finish California high speed
rail from Merced to Bakersfield. We've got the viaduct laid,
we have overpasses.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Do you finish it? Yes or no? Mayor Viragosa, Yes,
a Cogresstom border.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yes, if you can build it faster and cheaper than
it's been projected.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Okay, Sheriff Bianco.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
No, I would rather arrest the people that stole our money,
all rights that are illegal, mister.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Help spending tax money on pointless things, and improve our
roads in the country because a Democrat policy.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Mister sire, Yes, we need secretary of sepregation. This slow
speed delivery of high speed reel. No, but a high
speed delivery of high speed reel.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
What does that mean? Well, it means we proceed litigation
on your desk. Do you say yes or do you
veto it? Is that to me?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I said I don't want to do it the way
it's been done because we've overspent.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But yes, we're gonna build. Yes, we're going to build
high speed rail.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Conan.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I would send it back to the legislature and say,
fixed sequel, reduced litigation risk, let's fix the regulatory environment,
and then I'll sign the bill.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
The confusing answer was given by Sarah Tony. Can you
can you roll back? Just to be Sarah there and
I he was. He was told yes or no. You
you can't assume that anything is going to change because
this has been going on now for eighteen years. This
is eighteen years, so nothing's going to change. And the
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current price tag is two hundred thirty one billion dollars,
not including future inflation, not including interest in all the
borrowed money. So play that clip again. This is be Sarah.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yes, we need secretary of secretation.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
This slow speed delivery of high speed reel. No, but
a high speed delivery of high speed reil.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
What does that mean? Well, that means bureocracy litigation. We
try to make it on your desk. Do you say
yes or do you veto?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Is that to me? Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I said, I don't want to do it the way
it's been done because we've overspent the year.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We don't want to build that.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
We're going to build tie. Yes, we're going to build
high speed rail.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Conan I would send it back to the legislature and
say hit sequel, reduced litigation.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
All right, you can stop. You can stop. Codon Nolan
tried to explain, it's on your desk to extend the
financing here, Well, uh uh it's I don't want uh
low speed delivery of high speed rail. I want high
speed delivery. Kill it's it's corruption. It's pure on corruption,
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and every demcrat wants to extend it and some form
Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton want to pull the plug
on it, take the losses and get out of the thing.
And that's what rational people would do. And by by
the way, it was Hilton who worded what does that mean?
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But Sarah is a dud? You know who thinks he's
a dud. I'm gonna play you a clip. This was
on CNN. You know how they have those endless tedious
panel panel shows. Well, I I guess this was after
the debate which ran on CNN, and there's a former
Biden administration official on the panel, a woman. Her name
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is spelled XO c h I t L. I looked
it up and that comes out as to cheito so
chito hnosa hinojosa. Best I can do so Cheito Hinojosa.
She's the Biden administration and she doesn't think much of
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Bessara and she says here that a lot of people
in the Biden administration didn't think much of Besara. This
This caused mouths to drop open on the CNN panel
play the.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Clip I do not trust have you ever said it
to do that? Can I can?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I just say?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
WHOA?
Speaker 8 (22:50):
I know, I don't trust that he would be able
to do that because and that is the feeling that I'll.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Be able to stand up to tru I don't think.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
That he will be able to stand him to drop
end lead. And the reason why on that stage.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Before she answers that, can I can?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I ask you why?
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Because when I saw him in the administration, and I
think a lot of people did, and that it's it's
people understand this. It's he was not effective in governmenting.
And I think that a lot of people in the
Biden administration are talking about this because they realized that
he was not an effective HHS secretary. And if you
ask any cabinet secretary, they would tell you the same thing.
And so I think that there is a I think
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people recognize this, and I think this is why Tom
Steyer has gone.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
To the top.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You catch that. I believe there's about thirteen or so
cabinet secretaries, give or take, and if you if you
pulled them, it would be a complete blackout, thirteen nothing
or fifteen nothing, that Sarah's a dud. I saw a story. Oh,
in fact, there is. There's actually a full length story
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that I can get into in the next segment, A
full length story. And yes here it is Politico. Be
Sarah's rise baffles his former Biden colleagues. Now, how bad
do you have to be? That Joe Biden and the
rest of his sorry cabinet all think you stink? Of course,
he's the top Democrat in the race. That's how stupid
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and ignorant California voters are, especially Democratic voters. They would
they back a guy that Biden himself. Of course, Biden
didn't even know Besarah's name, that's why he introduced him
as Hobby or Baccharia. But the rest of the cabinet
secretaries who Okay, I guess we're supposed to assume they
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were not in a coma. They thought he was terrible.
I'll read you the story in Politico coming up next.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
John McKinney running for City attorney, former Deputy DA or
maybe he still is. I don't know if he still
is a diea. We'll find out he's a guesting studio
after five o'clock. All right, The story in Politico Javier Bakaria,
Javier Bicerro, who's the leading Democratic candidate. Somebody used to
be in the Biden administration went on CNN and said, basically,
(25:14):
he's no good and everybody in the Biden White House
knew he was a dud. Here's the political story about it.
The Democrats did not envision Javier Bessera was going to
be the leader in the polls for California governor, and
they have reacted with a mix of incredulity, mockery, and resignation,
(25:40):
said one former Biden official. It's like, we need to
figure out a candidate who can win, but then him. Really,
it's amazing. Biden White House alumni have been marveling at
his stroke of luck and the growing possibility that a
cabinet official who was widely derided and deemed to have
been in over his head could soon be the governor
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of the country's largest state. Six six former Biden administration
officials who are granted anonymity acknowledged that the subject of
Sarah's unlikely rise has come to dominate their group chats
and conversations. Quote. It gets the biggest laugh every time
we send around a poll. The perception was he was
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ineffective on the COVID response, the illegalalien health crisis at
the border, and other things. One official said he ran
one of the most consequential, consequential agencies in government at
the height of the pandemic, but he took a backseat
to doctor Faunching. His team did not visibly lead on implementation,
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and Sarah had to go through layers to get to
talk to Biden even though he's a cabinet member. A
second official said Besarah had been absent on COVID. Third
Biden officials said that Biden selecting him was an unfortunate choice.
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A fourth official said that Bessarah is good at being
a politician. When he was an attorney general, the formula
was file a lawsuit. Fully did he filed lawsuits against Trump.
When you're a member of Congress, you help your constituents,
you introduce legislation. But people noticed he wasn't cut out
for the cabinet. When there was a crisis, It's clear
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he didn't know how to handle it. Besara seemed slow
to activate or sometimes it was uninformed about the migrant
crisis at the border. Uninformed. He didn't know if the
Fox was running the video. Ten thousand people a day
were storming over Sarah didn't turn on the TV. So
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he started being cut out of meetings, and some of
the Latino advocacy organizations went to the White House demanding
that Bessara be included. He couldn't get himself included, so
he got all these goons in these organizations. A lot
of people in the White House, including Biden, were frustrated
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by Bessarah's apparent lack of preparation. When he was in
the room, he'd go to brief the President and he
was not prepared at all, almost to the point where
it was an embarrassment. Biden with pepper him with questions
and he would not be able to answer them. What
Joe Biden. Joe Biden's pepperingh with questions. So you have
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a senile guy whose brain has turned to oatmeal, and
Bessarah couldn't handle him.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
John McKinney coming up when we come back. He's running
for La City Attorney. He ran for D eight a
few years ago during the gascon re election campaign, we
will talk to John. Coming up in for Debor Mark
is Eileen Gonzales live in the KFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI Am six
(29:09):
forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app and Spencer Pratt, who
won by a mile the debate last night against Karen
Bass and Nitthia Ramin. He was on with us the
whole first hour. We did a live stream on YouTube.
He just recorded it and put it up so you
could watch it if you missed it. Right now, though,
(00:22):
don't go anywhere. Listen to me first, and then you
could listen to me later. Doctor Mehmet Oz is coming on.
He is the Center. He's the head of the Center
from Medicare and Medicaid Services, the chief administrator in the
Trump administration. He has been leading the charge against all
the massive fraud in Medicaid and Medicare and health services.
(00:44):
Here in California. The government, well the federal taxpayers, are
getting built at of billions of dollars by all the
criminals that Newsom has allowed to organize these massive hospice
fraud rings. Let's get doctor Oz on. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
How are you, doctor, Well, thanks for having me on.
I'll tell you I have spent a couple of days
here in La I started coming here quite a bit
in early January because we were looking at the hot spots
for fraud in the country and just to put this
on everyone's radar in the right context. If we take
out the fraud in Medicare and Medicare, we're talking about
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one hundred billion dollars per year, And to put that
in context that everyone can process, be there's a lot
of money. If you're working your tail off right now,
you think you're going to retire on Medicare and you're
worried it's not going to be there for you, which
is a good number of folks. We will double the
life expectancy of the Medicare Trust Fund that funds Medicare
if we deal with this fraud. So the issues I'm
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about to talk about are germane to your future, to
your pocketbook. It's a major way to make healthcare affordable.
And a lot of the corruption that we see destroying
the healthcare system starts because you tolerate fraud. And that's
exactly what's happening here in California where I know we're
going to talk about hospice. Although I was part of
witness the DEA and and US attorney who's wonderful here
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in Los Angeles, Bill Asily. You know, I witnessed them
take MacArthur Park to turn it into a park again
and removed not just homeless folks who are addicted the drugs,
but the cartels running that area and making a fortune
off the American taxpayer. They literally put their numbers, their
logos are on the buildings because they basically own that
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part of LA and no one seems to care. And
that's what the President is so upset about. That's why
he created a White House Anti Frog Task Force to
address these issues. And we're going to keep coming back
as much as we need to to help the people
at California defend themselves against their own government.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes, I know, that's exactly what we need, because if
the Trump administration doesn't do it, we're all screwed here
because we've been completely abandoned by the Newsom and the
Bass administrations. So let's talk about the MacArthur Park bust
because that is the newest thing that's going on this week.
The drug cartels have, as you said, just own the
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park and they own the properties around the park. Now,
with the bust up of these criminals, how does that
change things? How do new gangs don't move in and
take over the turf and start up the whole machine
again next week.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, if you want to cut the head of the
hydra off, you go to the Cinaloa cartel. That's where
the fentinyl's coming from. And so these wonderful law enforcement
guys and you're again the Fosston Defective General. Department of
Justice FBI auditioned and this is all coordinators through DEA.
This time they went and found nineteen kilos a fentinl
Let me just put that again in terms everyone gets
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that's enough fentinel to kill one hundred and ninety thousand Americans.
Massive they take these these safehouses where they store the
fentinel that's come across the border from Mexico. And again
this is the organized crime in foreign countries. This is
you know, China, Mexico. These folks are making money off
this and they dole it out to these bodegas that
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are right along MacArthur Park down. MacArthur Park used to be,
you know, nice place four decades ago, but right now
you should not walk around in that area. I certainly
wasn't allowed to. And so when they swept through there,
they had search warrants to open up six of those
shops where they actually store the fentinel. Then they dole
it out in smaller aliquats to the attics. Now the
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Attics they make their money to pay for this because
it costs between forty and seventy bucks a hit. They
have to go to the home depot this nearby our
other stops and steal things. They can steal up to
one thousand dollars. They know this, they won't go to jail.
We have half the number of people in jail in
California as there were ten years ago. Half, So they
know they won't go to jail because no one does.
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And so they're going to steal from the community, to
destroy the community, transfer that to these bodegos, so then
ship it up to the cinealower cartels. Again, different gangs
controlled different blocks. I was on the eighteen block, so
that gang controls They had big eight teams everywhere controls
that space. Everyone knows it. And so this is again
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we have wholesale allowed other countries and criminal organizations to
take ownership of parts of Los Angeles. The federal government
cannot tolerate that. And as often as the case if
there's a disaster. We have to step in, and that's
what's happening. You're witnessing it. I'm out the police chief,
King God bless them, and brought LAPD with them because
they're stick and tired of this. It's not that we're
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going against law enforcement in California. Folks, especially the LAPD,
wants us to come help them. They're stick and tired
of prosecutors not taking these folks out. And I spoke
at the press conference about Secretary Kennedy who his father
was murdered here in nineteen sixty eight after the primary
Senator Kennedy and when RFK was thirteen years old, and
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he became a drug addict after that, and he talks
about this publicly. So the demons that take you over
when you're on drugs, they don't go away. When you
take a hit. You don't feel good. When you're on drugs,
you feel relief. What we have done in California is
farm homelessness, farm drug addiction. You pay people to make
it easier for them to stay on drugs, so they
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can then buy their drugs from cartels who then ship
the money back to their countries, taking advantage of us.
I don't see where the American people win here. I
don't understand why people in Los Angeles wouldn't go up
in arms rebel against this and any part of this
is because they've they've been, it's been normalized, they've done.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
We spend tax money and we give them crack pipes,
and we give them we give them the crack pipes,
and what else do we give them the needles?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But let's be clear, showers, food, you know, you give
them everything they need except what they need to get better.
That's called enabling and that's exactly what I witness. And again,
I'm a doctor. I've been around the open air drug markets.
I've been to the tenderloind in San Francisco. I'm from Philadelphia.
We have the largest open air drug market in Kensington
and the East coasts where the train tracks come together.
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People do hundreds of thousands of dollars of business under
those train tracks, under the overpasses. I understand this business.
I've been covering it for years. I used to cover
it on my show. It's criminal, it's wrong, But you
have to actually be brave enough to stand up and
deal with the fundamental infrastructure issues that lead to these
issues and these criminal activities if tolerated, if they're normalized,
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the average person starts to believe that they date nihilism
takes over. They stopped that, they start believing that it's
not going to make a difference. And so the president
came in and this is a This gets them really hot,
and he said, we're just not going to allow people
from other countries to take advantage of us. And so
he's done things, for example at the border to make
sure that at least is there's a border. But this
(07:51):
it stands into business enterprises that if I'll get Candy move,
I'm going to shock you. I just came from a
setting in how Would where there's these two homes. There
are two buildings where they housed fake hospice uh and
fake radiology. I say fake because they didn't actually take
(08:12):
care of anybody. They generated fifty eight million dollars of
bills without providing service. Now, the people behind this fraud
were foreigners who came to this country became naturalized US citizens,
but they would hire j one diesel holders who aren't
supposed to run these businesses as the nominal owners of
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the business. They defrauded us. We finally got them they
actually just got sentenced. But interestingly, they transferred that fifty
eight million dollars about six million dollars of gold bricks,
gold bullion, and so they were transporting it in their
suitcases back to their home country. They were going back
to their where they came from. They left the place
(08:55):
that was in you know, a train wreck. They came
to America, this beautiful nation that takes care of folks
who come here. They took advantage of us. They disobeyed
our laws. They stole from our most vulnerable. They hurt
people on Medicare or and Medicaid. They didn't believe it
or not, we're leaving with gold in their suitcases. You
have to be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, can you hang on another segments?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Because yeah, I guess I ain't.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Can hanging on a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It gets me going as you can put.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, no, that's great. Uh, let's just say, I guess
I do news and a few commercials. We'll come back
with doctor Meminaz and he's the chief administrator for the
Center for Medicare and Medicaid Big Bust in MacArthur Park.
As you heard about a lot of hospices, fake hospices
are being taken out as well in LA.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Continue with doctor Oz here. Doctor Memid Oz is the
chief administrator for the Center of Medicare and Medicaid Services.
He's been leading the charge to bust up all the
hospice fraud in Los Angeles and also part of the
great investigation into MacArthur Park and all the drugs being
sold there by the gangs. There was a big federal
(10:05):
takedown this week, doctor Oz. A few days ago news
broke that you sent letters to a number of states,
including California, they that they have to seriously tighten up
their anti fraud enforcement or there's going to be consequences.
(10:25):
Can you explain what the letter said?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I sent the letter on behalf of the White
House Anti Fraud Task Force to all fifty states, and
we did that on purpose because we think there's fraud
in a lot of states that we were checking and
testing to see if governors are willing to engage us. Now,
for everyone listening, this is really important. Medicare, which is
for old people. We pay the bills at the federal level.
When you pay federal tax dollars and he goes to us.
(10:51):
We distributed, however, Medicaid, which is for poor people, folks
who are vulnerable. You know, they are taken care of
by the state. So the state pays bill and then
read the federal government reimbursed them. So it's like pushing
on a string. When you ask states to do things,
they don't have to do them. So we send a
litterary every state saying we want you to revalidate the
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people providing services. And the reason that's important is a
lot of the money in Medicaid doesn't go to hospitals
for doing hernia repairs or heart surgery, where you have
a licensed doctor in a setting that's been inspected, with
nurses that have degrees. That's all, you know, it's hard
to fake that. A lot of money, especially here in California,
(11:33):
goes to things like personal care services. Now what are they?
You should remember what that word means, because you're going
to hear a lot about it from our administration. Personal
care services mean you're having trouble carrying your groceries up
the stairs, maybe, and the government says, hey, listen, don't
try too hard to carry those groceries because you could
hire your kid to carry the groceries. That's right. Things
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your family would normally do for you will pay them
to do for you. I know it sounds too good
to be true. It can only really happen in places
at California, but that is a massive business now. It's
the number one job in New York State. There's even
more people doing it in California because everyone wants to
hire their kids or their neighbor's kids if the neighbor
hires their kids, and so you basically have a jobs programmed.
(12:16):
This is not a flaw. This is a feature for
the California government. They say, listen, if I can get
all these people employed and paid for by the federal government,
and then we can unionize them, which is what's happening. Now.
We've got a big ally doing really well on the
largesse of the federal tax payer, and this allows us
to grow very rapidly. And so the letter I sent
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was very clear, revalidate these people. Prove to us that
you know who they are. They're allowed to do whatever
services like driving someone to the hospital or more likely
to a doctor's office if it's a ilegitimate, and prove
to us that they're actually doing these in a way
that you're auditing so we know the money is not
being thrown away. We have high levels of suspicion based
on Minnesota, where we already started this process, that twenty
(13:02):
percent of people that you're paying to take care of
their neighbors aren't allowed to do that, don't have the
credentials or anything frankly that would allow them to be
trusted to do that service. We're going to shut those down.
But the test to the States is to let us
know by this week and by the end of this week,
are you willing to play ball with us or not?
And if you don't want to actually audit these providers
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that you should be doing anyway, then we'll be coming
after you.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Have you heard from Newsom since he filed that civil
rights complain against you for pointing out that Armenian organized
crime is behind a lot of the hospice run.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I was shocked, and that was the response. If someone
from the federal government came and pointed to you a
problem that your own auditors had told you about years earlier,
that you'd taken trivial action against it all that time.
If I just pointed out to you where the ball's hidden.
You think you the least act on it. Instead they're
doing the opposite. No, I haven't heard from him, and
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it's sort of shocking because as what I have learned
more about is the simple, basic things you would do
to reduce hospice fraud. In California, they've actually been blocking.
In Sacramento. I'll give you an example. The state Department
of Health said, we don't want doctors to be able
to be at more than one hospice. Again, think about that.
If a doctor is working at a hospice, they should
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work at that hospice. Why would a doctor have ten hospices.
They would only be doing it if someone was bribing
them to pretend that people were actually dying, because no
doctor would work at ten hospices. You just work at
one big hospice. And so the state had said they
were going to change the rule so that doctors can
only work at one hospice. Everyone agreed, there was a
(14:39):
public comment, and something happened on December nineteenth that nobody
will talk about in sacramental And I'm serious. I've been
pursuing this. No one in law enforcement, no one in
the legislature, no one understands but someone very senior in
the government pulled that rule down and prevented it from
going into effect January first. It would have taken out
a lot of the fraud in californ Instead, once again,
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the federal government has to come to the rescue. We've
now delisted hundreds and hundreds of hostices, well a little longer,
allowing them to bill.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You guys are doing fantastic work, Doctor Osh, Thanks for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
God bless you. Take care all right.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Doctor Memdoz with the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services,
he's the chief administrator there. Next up packed show, it's
you know, election week. Ballots are in people's kitchens. John
McKinney's coming on. He ran for deputy, He ran for
a district attorney a few years ago. Now he's running
for city attorney. John McKinney is coming on next.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What a day we had today. We had Spencer Predah
for a whole hour, a day after his smashing performance
in the debate against Karen Bass and Nitthia Rahman. The
psychosisters made them look small and stupid, didn't he? He
knows what he's talking about, and he's saying everything that
we all see with our own eyes. And the ballots
(16:05):
are in your home, so put in a vote for him,
that would be the smart.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Thing to do.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You saw those two bass and the comedy team of
Bass and Ramen. Oh my god. I'm gonna play a
lot of the clips because I love analyzing the tricks
of politicians who are pathological liars, all their tricks of evasions,
(16:35):
all their double talk. So we'll get into that next hour.
And also John McKinney's coming on. He's a bit delayed.
John McKinney. We had him on a few years ago,
a couple of times. He was one of the best
candidates I thought for Deputy DA. Nathan Hockman ended up
being the winner and ultimately beat George Gascone. But John
(16:56):
McKinnie is a good man and he's running for city
Attorney right now. So we're going to talk with John
coming up in a few minutes. In the meantime, there
was a second debate last night. It was a governor's debate.
There was a CNN governor's debate two days ago. Yesterday
was one on NBC and a couple of things. I
(17:20):
told you that Jabier, but Sarah is California's version of
Joe Biden, just one of these dud bureaucrat guys who's
been bouncing around. Something flukey happens and suddenly he's the
top Democratic candidate for governor. But he really is. He's
(17:40):
really bad at his job. And he got nominated by
Joe Biden to be in charge of Health and Human
Services and he was no good. It was it was
during COVID and even Biden thought this guy's this guy's
a bust. He's bad, and they wanted to fire him.
(18:02):
And what they did is they ended up just putting
him in a dark closet, not getting him much to
do because he's he's just no good. He's kind of dumb.
He may be corrupt, but that's for another day. Colon
Nolan from Channel four was asking the candidates if they
would finish high speed rail simply yes or no question.
(18:25):
Here is as Joe Biden would say. Javier Baccharia his answer.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
It'll cost another thirty billion to finish California high speed
rail from Merced to Bakersfield. We've got the viaduct laid,
we have overpasses.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Do you finish it? Yes or no? Mayor Viragosa, Yes,
a Cogresstom border.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yes, if you can build it faster and cheaper than
it's been projected.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Okay, Sheriff Bianco.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
No, I would rather arrest the people that stole our money,
all rights that are illegal, mister.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Help spending tax money on pointless things, and improve our
roads in the country because a Democrat policy.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Mister sire, Yes, we need secretary of sepregation. This slow
speed delivery of high speed reel. No, but a high
speed delivery of high speed reel.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
What does that mean? Well, it means we proceed litigation
on your desk. Do you say yes or do you
veto it? Is that to me?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I said I don't want to do it the way
it's been done because we've overspent.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But yes, we're gonna build. Yes, we're going to build
high speed rail.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Conan.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I would send it back to the legislature and say,
fixed sequel, reduced litigation risk, let's fix the regulatory environment,
and then I'll sign the bill.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
The confusing answer was given by Sarah Tony. Can you
can you roll back? Just to be Sarah there and
I he was. He was told yes or no. You
you can't assume that anything is going to change because
this has been going on now for eighteen years. This
is eighteen years, so nothing's going to change. And the
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current price tag is two hundred thirty one billion dollars,
not including future inflation, not including interest in all the
borrowed money. So play that clip again. This is be Sarah.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yes, we need secretary of secretation.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
This slow speed delivery of high speed reel. No, but
a high speed delivery of high speed reil.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
What does that mean? Well, that means bureocracy litigation. We
try to make it on your desk. Do you say
yes or do you veto?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Is that to me? Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I said, I don't want to do it the way
it's been done because we've overspent the year.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We don't want to build that.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
We're going to build tie. Yes, we're going to build
high speed rail.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Conan I would send it back to the legislature and
say hit sequel, reduced litigation.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
All right, you can stop. You can stop. Codon Nolan
tried to explain, it's on your desk to extend the
financing here, Well, uh uh it's I don't want uh
low speed delivery of high speed rail. I want high
speed delivery. Kill it's it's corruption. It's pure on corruption,
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and every demcrat wants to extend it and some form
Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton want to pull the plug
on it, take the losses and get out of the thing.
And that's what rational people would do. And by by
the way, it was Hilton who worded what does that mean?
(21:48):
But Sarah is a dud? You know who thinks he's
a dud. I'm gonna play you a clip. This was
on CNN. You know how they have those endless tedious
panel panel shows. Well, I I guess this was after
the debate which ran on CNN, and there's a former
Biden administration official on the panel, a woman. Her name
(22:10):
is spelled XO c h I t L. I looked
it up and that comes out as to cheito so
chito hnosa hinojosa. Best I can do so Cheito Hinojosa.
She's the Biden administration and she doesn't think much of
(22:33):
Bessara and she says here that a lot of people
in the Biden administration didn't think much of Besara. This
This caused mouths to drop open on the CNN panel
play the.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Clip I do not trust have you ever said it
to do that? Can I can?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I just say?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
WHOA?
Speaker 8 (22:50):
I know, I don't trust that he would be able
to do that because and that is the feeling that I'll.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Be able to stand up to tru I don't think.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
That he will be able to stand him to drop
end lead. And the reason why on that stage.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Before she answers that, can I can?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I ask you why?
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Because when I saw him in the administration, and I
think a lot of people did, and that it's it's
people understand this. It's he was not effective in governmenting.
And I think that a lot of people in the
Biden administration are talking about this because they realized that
he was not an effective HHS secretary. And if you
ask any cabinet secretary, they would tell you the same thing.
And so I think that there is a I think
(23:30):
people recognize this, and I think this is why Tom
Steyer has gone.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
To the top.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You catch that. I believe there's about thirteen or so
cabinet secretaries, give or take, and if you if you
pulled them, it would be a complete blackout, thirteen nothing
or fifteen nothing, that Sarah's a dud. I saw a story. Oh,
in fact, there is. There's actually a full length story
(23:57):
that I can get into in the next segment, A
full length story. And yes here it is Politico. Be
Sarah's rise baffles his former Biden colleagues. Now, how bad
do you have to be? That Joe Biden and the
rest of his sorry cabinet all think you stink? Of course,
he's the top Democrat in the race. That's how stupid
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and ignorant California voters are, especially Democratic voters. They would
they back a guy that Biden himself. Of course, Biden
didn't even know Besarah's name, that's why he introduced him
as Hobby or Baccharia. But the rest of the cabinet
secretaries who Okay, I guess we're supposed to assume they
(24:41):
were not in a coma. They thought he was terrible.
I'll read you the story in Politico coming up next.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
John McKinney running for City attorney, former Deputy DA or
maybe he still is. I don't know if he still
is a diea. We'll find out he's a guesting studio
after five o'clock. All right, The story in Politico Javier Bakaria,
Javier Bicerro, who's the leading Democratic candidate. Somebody used to
be in the Biden administration went on CNN and said, basically,
(25:14):
he's no good and everybody in the Biden White House
knew he was a dud. Here's the political story about it.
The Democrats did not envision Javier Bessera was going to
be the leader in the polls for California governor, and
they have reacted with a mix of incredulity, mockery, and resignation,
(25:40):
said one former Biden official. It's like, we need to
figure out a candidate who can win, but then him. Really,
it's amazing. Biden White House alumni have been marveling at
his stroke of luck and the growing possibility that a
cabinet official who was widely derided and deemed to have
been in over his head could soon be the governor
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of the country's largest state. Six six former Biden administration
officials who are granted anonymity acknowledged that the subject of
Sarah's unlikely rise has come to dominate their group chats
and conversations. Quote. It gets the biggest laugh every time
we send around a poll. The perception was he was
(26:26):
ineffective on the COVID response, the illegalalien health crisis at
the border, and other things. One official said he ran
one of the most consequential, consequential agencies in government at
the height of the pandemic, but he took a backseat
to doctor Faunching. His team did not visibly lead on implementation,
(26:46):
and Sarah had to go through layers to get to
talk to Biden even though he's a cabinet member. A
second official said Besarah had been absent on COVID. Third
Biden officials said that Biden selecting him was an unfortunate choice.
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A fourth official said that Bessarah is good at being
a politician. When he was an attorney general, the formula
was file a lawsuit. Fully did he filed lawsuits against Trump.
When you're a member of Congress, you help your constituents,
you introduce legislation. But people noticed he wasn't cut out
for the cabinet. When there was a crisis, It's clear
(27:28):
he didn't know how to handle it. Besara seemed slow
to activate or sometimes it was uninformed about the migrant
crisis at the border. Uninformed. He didn't know if the
Fox was running the video. Ten thousand people a day
were storming over Sarah didn't turn on the TV. So
(27:51):
he started being cut out of meetings, and some of
the Latino advocacy organizations went to the White House demanding
that Bessara be included. He couldn't get himself included, so
he got all these goons in these organizations. A lot
of people in the White House, including Biden, were frustrated
(28:13):
by Bessarah's apparent lack of preparation. When he was in
the room, he'd go to brief the President and he
was not prepared at all, almost to the point where
it was an embarrassment. Biden with pepper him with questions
and he would not be able to answer them. What
Joe Biden. Joe Biden's pepperingh with questions. So you have
(28:39):
a senile guy whose brain has turned to oatmeal, and
Bessarah couldn't handle him.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
John McKinney coming up when we come back. He's running
for La City Attorney. He ran for D eight a
few years ago during the gascon re election campaign, we
will talk to John. Coming up in for Debor Mark
is Eileen Gonzales live in the KFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI Am six
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