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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can'f I am six forty you're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I am Sam Shane and for John Cobalt. Good to
be back with you again today and my pleasure to
be filling in for John and his crew has been
extraordinarily helpful once again. So looking forward to the next
three hours sharing them with you. If you can stay
on board, they'd be terrific. There's a lot to get to.
Right off the top of the program, I want to
get into number one, the FIFA decision. We've got the
big game. It's going to be starting in less than
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two hours now between the United States and Belgium, and
one of the star players, Full Balligan, will be playing.
We're going to get into that ruling in a moment. Also,
we're going to get into Governor Newsom and Democrats at
the state Capitol have pushed through a bill. It's called
AB one eighty one, and essentially what this does is
it removes the power of the state superintendent and hands
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it over to a commissioner who would be appointed by
the governor, undermining the voters of California, just taking away
that power. So we're going to get into that. I
had some of the specifics on that, but I want
to get into first of all, a story that is
developing out of Maine, and it is looking now as
though this may happen. There is speculation now swirling all
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over social media about the future of Senate candidate Graham Platner.
He's a Democrat, he's a socialist. After several of his
events were canceled over the weekend and then today an
explosive report in Politico another allegation. This is one of
rape from a woman that he had previously dated. So
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Jenny Rasicott is her name, forty one years old, lives
in Maine, told political that over the course of during
three different interviews, that Platner had forced her to have sex.
This was some five years ago against her will. Now
Platner denies the story. The report says that a man
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that she had dated afterward confirmed that she had told
him about this incident, and it was also apparently cooperated
by emails between rasacut and her therapist. These are very
serious allegations, alleging that Platner entered her home uninvited, forced
her to have unprotected sex during despite telling him to
stop multiple times she said so. In a statement to Politico,
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Platner said the following. These allegations are troubling, serious, and false.
Any accusation of non consensual behavior is categorically untrue. However,
he said, regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting, but
mindful of the political reality it will inflict, we are
taking the time to reflect on the best path forward
for the state that I love, the people that I love,
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the movement I belong to, and so on and so forth.
So they're reflecting, they're huddling, and they released a statement
saying we'd on hold for the moment. And these are
the types of statements in the world of politics that
usually are a strong indicator that someone is ready to
bow out. So we'll keep our eyes peeled on that
story today, but in the days to come. This very well,
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this could likely go down at any time, though, and
my guess is we'll know by the end of the
week for sure, and maybe much sooner than that. So
that's the development out of Maine. Let's talk a little
bit about the big game tonight in Seattle between the
United States and Belgium and FIFA's ruling. So Belgium had
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appealed this decision the red card to suspend USA World
Cup star full Balligan a one game ban for that
red card that was in the round of thirty two
match against Bosnia Herzegovina, right, you might have remembered this.
So President Trump apparently made a phone call to the
president of FIFA and he turned it over to an
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appeals committee. So there's an actual committee that makes these decisions,
and they issued a statement that said, yes, we are
postponing any type of potential one game suspension will be
a probation period for him for one year. So they
turned it into a probation period. Now there are a
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couple of aspects to this story that make it even
more interesting. Belgium files this appeal and then that appeal
was number one denied earlier today. The appeal to the
boards said Belgium, you really don't have a dog in
this hunt, so to speak. This is not your issue.
This happened, This is an issue of the game prior
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to yours. So therefore you don't have any jurisdiction. Number two.
It turns out, because there are some arguments that this
is unprecedented, that FIFA does not do this once they
issue a red card. They don't change their minds, they
don't redirect when in reality they apparently do. So I
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want to get into that in just a second. But
before all of this, here's what President Trump had to
say about the whole play. And of course, as I mentioned,
he made that phone call to the.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So I saw the play, and I'm a person that
loves sports and who was a good athlete, and I
understand sports really well, really well.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And that wasn't a foul.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That wasn't even an infraction. There was two guys running
full speed that happened to crash into each other. You
can't take your foot and properly place it on somebody
else's foot when you're going No, these were two great
athletes that got tangled up.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And that's what the genesis of the phone call was.
That was the substance of the phone call And then
it was turned over that phone call and the content
of what was discussed was turned over to the appeals
committee and they made their ruling. Now FIFA has done
this in the past. They recently issued and used the
same basic mechanism for a much bigger name, Cristiano Ronaldo,
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and he had his particular sentence with the red card
was essentially post owned, and then it was extended into
a probationary period to allow him to play in a
World Cup game. So it has been done in the past.
So game time is right around the corner, less than
two hours from now. In Seattle and Go.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
USA, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
My name is Sam Shane. I'm in for John Cobble today.
Good to be here. I want to get into a
little by the way, we've got a live interview that
we were hoping to pull off here the bottom of
the hour, which has to do with Charlie Kirk's alleged
assassin in court for the first time in some very
powerful testimony and family members from both sides there. So
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we're going to get into that just a little bit
later on, but before that, this is really quite a
power grab in my estimation, and I don't know how
you view it, but it has to do with the
governor of California and the state super and a position which,
by the way, a Republican has been winning and doing
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quite well, and that might be the genesis for what's
happening right now. So you've got the Republican Canada for
California State Superintendent Sonya Shaw. She's now accusing Governor Nwsom
of orchestrating a sweeping power grab and leaving the office.
She wants to run essentially powerless. She would she would
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be essentially a spokesperson. That's about it. That's about it.
So listen to what's going down at the Capitol, and
then I want you to hear what she has to
say about all of this. She's talking about Assembly Bill
one eight one. It's AB one eighty one. It's an
education budget trailer bill. So this was signed by Governor
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Newsom last week. And here's why this is significant. It
is now fast tracked along with the budget which is
making its way through the Capitol, and it allows it
to move through the legislation as part of the budget
process rather than the traditional committee hearing process which is
used for most standalone bills, so that doesn't have to
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have any committee review. Now, under this new law, operational
responsibilities will shift to a governor appointed executive, while the
elected superintendent retains constitutional duties but largely serves in an
advisory and oversight role, taking all the power away from
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the state's superintendent and giving it to a commissioner who's
appointed by the governor, usurping the will and the rights
of the voters of California, just taking that power away
to oversee our public school system, which is, by the way,
highly troubled as we all know. As we all know,
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So now that this is being proposed, Sonya Shaw is
out there talking saying, here's the deal, here's why they're
doing this because I'm a Republican and I want to
do some things that they don't like. And I'm doing
pretty well in Napoli. She's a Republican, appears to be
winning in the polls in the race for state superintendent.
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She has told iHeartRadio News Governor and other Democrats drew
up this bill because they fear she's going to win
in November. Here's what she's all about. She's opposed to
allowing biological boys to compete in girls' sports. She's opposed
to open gender bathrooms, opposed to school administrators being allowed
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to keep information from parents about their own children. So
here's a portion of the interview that she did with
iHeartRadio News.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
For me, this bill is a direct assault by who
I call King Newsom on the California Constitution and the
will of the voters. I also do say that it
shows that they are ready scared because they know change
is coming and changes here. So they're doing everything in
their will and their power, of course, to diminish anything
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that the voters have said that they wanted changed here
in California. They've tried this in the past, you know,
and they can't do it because it's in the constitution
and the voters have said no, no, no, So when
they saw a big threat coming, I mean, I've been
the whistleblower in the Supreme Court case. They've sued us,
We've stood our ground. No one's ever stood up to
him the way that I have a mother who is
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protecting kids. He's met his match, so to say. And
I believe that's why they're doing it. They're scared. They're
scared that you know, even with the grants. Think about it,
the state superintendent is involved in all that. Look at
all the fraud when it comes to them giving and
making sure they're special interest groups that you know get
them into office are part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
She says in her interview with IR Radio News. If
this bill is passed and signed by Governor Newsom. She's
going to fight it in court. Yeah, she's going to
take it to court to try to get it over turn.
I believe what Governor who's done has done here has
uh he's strongly overplayed his hand. He's made, I think,
a severe mistake in his run for President of the
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United States. Look, he doesn't care about California. The budget
is behind him. He's he's a short timer. He'll be
out in a matter of months. He's now turning his
attention to the presidency of the United States and that run.
And I think that when this story gets out into
Middle America and the rest of America, and it will eventually,
they're not onto it yet, but they will be. In fact,
a number of people here in California likely are hearing
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this for the very first time, that he is trying
to undermine the voters of California take away the power
of the state superintendent, which is in the constitution, and
hand it over to a commissioner appointed by the governor,
giving the deep state more power. And when they find
out about this elsewhere in America, that's not going to
it's just not going to work. They won't like it.
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One bit. I mean, just think of that. What if
you're in Tennessee, here, Idaho, or Indiana or what you
name it and say, okay, so this is what that
fellow did out in California. I wonder if you would
do that to the United States of America, if issues
and candidates that I voted on, would he try to
push them aside and turn all the power over to
a commissioner that he appoints. I mean, you know, you
can talk about no king's rallies all day long, but
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you know, if you want to attend one now, you
might want to bring Newsom's picture. This is the stuff
of that kings do tyranny, you know, this is there's
no democracy there. Very troubling, very troubling. The second aspect
of this story is, okay, why would they do this now?
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And when I say they, I mean Governor Newsom and
his fellow Democrats at the state Capitol. My estimation is
this because they think Basera, Javier Basera, can win this
and will win this. They think Steve Hilton will be beaten.
Otherwise they wouldn't draw this up because the next governor
would be the one who would be able to appoint
this quote unquote education commissioner or czar or whatever. They're
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going to call this person and hand over the power,
because if they thought Hilton was going to win, would
they rarely do it? Probably not, Probably not. They're there,
they're probably seeing some internal polling indicating that Bessira's got
a pretty strong lead. That would be my guess, just
a guess in my part. When we come back, we're
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going to get the very latest on the preliminary hearing
the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk Tyler Robinson in court today,
So we're going to get an update on that, what
that was like, what some of the testimony reflected. And
excuse me number two just more audio clips of very
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interesting stories. And there's a big story out there involving Microsoft,
big layoffs in Microsoft and whether or not this is
another reflection of artificial intelligence coming into play. So we'll
talk a little bit more about the high tech sector
coming up in the next half hour.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
My name is Sam Sheen. I'm in for John today.
It's my pleasure to be here. We're going to go
to the Liveline right away. We are joined by ABC
News legal analyst Royal Oaks, who is covering and interesting hearing.
Prosecutors have a begun presenting evidence against Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin,
a man named Tyler Robinson. Royal, thanks for joining us.
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Tell us a little bit about what happened today in court.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Yeah, very emotional churse. Prosecution has basically a tsunami of
evidence they can rely on to support the idea that
there's at least probable cause to think that Tyler Robinson
was the killer. And this preliminary hearing all week long,
it's just about probable cause. If the judge says, yeah,
a reasonable person would suspect he's the killer, I'm going
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to bind him over for trial, and you can get
the house that that's what's going to happen. But the
widow of Charlie Kirk attended, she had to leave because
the testimony from an officer got so graphic. Charlie Kirk's parents,
Donald Trump Junior was there, so a lot of support,
some very emotional testimony.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
So this is a five day preliminary hearing, is my understanding, Royal?
Is that typical or is that long or short? How
would you characterize it?
Speaker 6 (15:09):
It's a little longer than average because you know it's
an abbreviated many trial. For example, a detective gets to
go up in the stand and start repeating what other
people say, read from his notes. Normally, the defensive says,
as hearsay, I get the cross examine everybody he's quoting it.
They do a trial, but at the preliminary hearing the
evidentiary rules are somewhat relaxed. One problem, though, is that
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the prosecution does still say they want the death penalty.
And you know, in California, if you kill multiple people
or if you kill an officer, you could be eligible
for the death penalty. In Utah, one of the criteria
is if you put others at risk in addition to
your victim, and the prosecution will be arguing that this
guy shot a high powered rifle from a good distance away,
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here was a crowd, who knows where the bullet was
going to go, who knows what the bullet might go through.
So that could be an aggravating factor justifying capital punishment
in this Utah State court case.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
So you mentioned that there's a lot of evidence to
present here and among that evidence prosecutors alleging that Robinson
confessed in this note that he left for his roommate.
I remember when this story broke, This was many many
months ago where he leaves this note and it says
royal I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk
and I'm going to take it. When you talk about
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mountain of evidence, I mean this is a significant amount
of evidence in addition to what I just indicated.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Well, yeah, absolutely, in the sense that there's DNA evidence
linking Robinson to the rifle, there's some eyewitness testimony, there's
surveillance in terms of his whereabouts. But as you suggest,
they really do, this centerpiece of the case has to
be essentially a confession, and plus his roommates a testimony
is going to help as well. So yeah, you don't
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have to roll out all of your strongest evidence at
a prelim. The prosecution knows that in some less something
very weird happens, they're going to get what they want,
the order to go to trial. And sometimes the defense
just basically sits on their hands. They know there's nothing
they can do that would stop the judge from sending
it to trial. So why took the prosecution off as
to where they're coming from.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So in terms of the evidence that's being presented, here
is your understanding that a lot of this was gathered
almost immediately following the shooting death of Charlie Kirk or
were they able to get more evidence weeks or months later.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Well, they definitely got more down the road. But your
instinct is right. I mean, when you have some my witnesses,
when you have gathered within days the essentially the confession
allegedly by Tyler Robinson, certainly they want to cross their
t's and got their eyes and again to have the
strongest possible case for justifying capital punishment. You can get
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the prosecutors who have been working hard. They'll have experts
to talk about, you know, what happened might happen with
stray bullets and so on. But yeah, this case is
so high profile, given the victim and with capital punishment involved,
it's a little longer than usual. There have a five
day preliminary hearing, but that's what the judge blocked out.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So take us through what happens next? How long does
this process go on? What's the next step? Are we
know we're we're looking at months or is it a
matter of weeks? What can we look forward to?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, it's hard to know. So the judges said it'll
be five day preliminary hearing, So probably on Friday or
maybe Monday, we will hear the judge, likely from the bench,
announce yes, this is my decision, is or is not
being bound over to trial. Possibly the judge will say,
I'm going to give it a day or two while
I write it by decision and release it that way,
but one way together, we're going to know in the
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next week or so. If Robinson's going to trial. Then
the question is does the defense say, hey, you know,
under the constitution, we've got a right to a speedy trial.
We want one soon. How's August look, your honor. That's
unlikely because when you're on the defense, you don't know
exactly what the prosecution is that there's leader's supposed to
hand over in the discovery process all the material that
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they've god, including anything that might help the defense. But
typically when the death penalty is involved, it's a huge,
high profile case. The prosecution doesn't want to rush to judgment.
They want to take as much as time as possible
to get everything lined up. So that they can have
the most effective defense. He hasn't even entered a plea yet.
We don't know. Theoretically, they could come up with some
metal disturbance plea. The mountain of physical evidence against him
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wouldn't be a shock if that's the way the defense
wanted to go. So the bottom line is we get
have a trial in two or three months, or we
get have a trial more than a year from now,
depending on how slow the slog is getting through all
the documents and the electronic material that the two sides
have to exchange.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Okay, very good, very thorough, Thank you very much, Royle.
We appreciate that. That's Royal Oaks. ABC News legal analysts
giving us a rundown on the beginning of a five
day preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson, the alleged killer of
Charlie Kirk. We're going to roll out some audio from
President Trump, some of what he had to say over
the weekend on the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. So
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we've got that audio coming up for you in a
little bit. Also, Victor Davis Hansen, I'm a big fan
of this guy. Don't know if you've heard him in
the past. He's really one of the leading historians, respected
historians out there, and he did an interesting interview about
what he is most concerned about in America today. So
I want to roll out all of that and much
more straight ahead.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
My name is Sam Shann. I'm in for John Cobold.
Good to be here. I don't know if you saw
this item in the news today. Microsoft laying off forty
eight hundred employees, most of them from their Xbox division.
That company and the rest of the tech industry adapting
to the artificial intelligence era AI. Yeah. The cuts come
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as the software giant has heavily invested in artificial intelligence
after years of pouring cash into gaming. They're doing a
big switch. This is a pivot with a capital P.
This is part of a memo that was issued today
from Amy Coleman, Microsoft's chief people officer. Quote. Our business
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is changing because of the world around it is changing.
The way technology is built, deployed, and used is transforming
faster than at any point in my time here, at
any point in my time in my life. Me personally, yeah,
I don't remember anything even close to this with what
AI is doing to the workforce. Listen to some of
the numbers that have come in on AI, which has
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been blamed for layoffs throughout the tech sector. Worst start
to a year this year in terms of employment since
twenty twenty three, first three months of this year of
twenty twenty eighty six fifty two thousand tech layoffs. That's
a forty percent jump from the same period last year.
This is according to executive coaching firm Challenger Gray and Christmas.
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AI is really really transforming the workplace. I know a
lot of people I just talked to acdotally who aren't
really sure what it means for them and their jobs.
It's an uncertain time, there's no question about it. A
listener was listening into the program and left a message
through the iHeartRadio app about Governor Newsom, And as we
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talked about what Governor Newsom and Democrats at the state
Capitol are doing, they're pushing forward a bill AB one
e one that would essentially strip power from the duly
elected state superintendent and move it to a governor appointed commissioner. Yeah,
deep state gets deeper. How about that? Why would they
do that? Well, because the person who appears to be
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leading in the polls for the state superintendent role is
a Republican who has some pretty radical ideas according to
the Democrats, and they don't care for that. So this
listener had this to say about it.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Hey, Sam retired from the CHP three years ago and
moved to the beautiful state of Arizona to get away
from governor empty head. But voting thereor doesn't count. You
vote for it doesn't matter. Look at the LA election.
Look at we voted for when I was still there,
the death penalty. We voted to speed it up. But
he just went ahead and did whatever he one didn't
even count vote for Prop thirty six. Half pride left.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
What happened? He doesn't find it.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
He does whatever he wants and there's never any consequences
and there never will be in California.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Probably probably not, probably not. I mean, he's got he's
got a few months left and that's it. He's out.
And you know, you talk to people who work in
and around the state capitol, they're all telling you the
same thing. At this point forward, once the budget is signed,
and it will be signed very soon, he will be
turning his attention to the White House. That's what he'll
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be doing now. I mean, there might be some campaigning
for a few issues that are important to him in
the midterm, or a candida too important to him in
the midterm, but for the most part, he'll be running
for president. And this, in my estimation, once this news
gets out, is going to be more politically damaging to
him than I think he's anticipating. I think he's made
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a big miss stake here, a big mishap. He overplayed
his hand. And when people in America figure out that
he is trying to take power away from the voters
of California and put that in the hands of a
government appointed commissioner to run public schools, you and I
could write that TV commercial in about thirty seconds. That's
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an easy one. That's an easy one. I don't know
if you saw some of the speeches I want to
get to a few of them that surfaced over the
long fourth of July weekend, the two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Some of them were uplifting,
some of them bashed President Trump, some of them bashed
America and immigrants. Was kind of a whole Polpourrie of
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different topics on so many of these, and this one
is from President Trump during his speech marking the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, he
told America it is critical for our country to defeat Commune.
His words, our warriors.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
Did not fight communism on battlefields across the world only
to have that menace rear its ugly head right back
here in America. We're not going to let it happen.
Would like to stop a threat like that immediately and
before it begins, Just like a cancer, you got to
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cut it out. You got to cut it out fast.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's pretty powerful, this movement that we're seeing. Socialists who
have won primaries in New York, that's well documented. Another
socialist in Colorado, in a very prominent congressional race in
the Denver area has won. There's a socialist who's running
for governor in Wisconsin who is out there supporting a
Palestinian state. You know, this is very, very real, and
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that's the reason why the President brought it up. I
hope to get into a little bit later on the program.
Speaking of socialists, the speech that was given by New
York City Mayor Zorn Mamdani over the weekend. I mean,
this is a guy who, by the way, he's an immigrant.
He immigrated to the United States of America, and he
is enjoying America, is he not? But boy did he
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bash America and immigrants. It was stunning. We'll get to
that a little bit later on in the program. I
want to play this quickly for you. This is a
guy that I find fascinating and I don't know how
much you follow him. Staven's Victor Davis Hansen. He's a
respected historian. He's a member of the Stanford Hoover Institution.
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He's a professor, he's an author. He's just a flat
smart guy. He really is. And he told Mark Helprin
on Helpern's podcast that he is most concerned now about
the large number of illegal immigrants that poured over the
US border during the Biden administration. He said that is
his top concern for America.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
We're at an all time high. Were the fifty three
million people that were not born in the United States,
some sixteen percent. That can be a great asset, but
we've kind of dropped civic education and any type of
unifying experience, whether it's in the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Schools or the popular culture.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
So we're kind of tribalizing and balkanizing, and we talk
about various communities as if they're separate entities. That's not
going to work in the long term, I think. So
that's my biggest worry right there.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Is the collection of so many in such a short
period of time. He's not alone. I've talked about in
the past a guy named Peter Schweizer. You're probably familiar
with him. He's a well known author. He's an editor
in chief, I believe, with Breitbart, and he's written a
number of books about the influence that foreign countries have
on the United States and the culture war that they're
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trying to unleash in the United States of America using
immigration as a weapon, and it's a very interesting concept.
I find him interesting. I think he reflect a lot
of what Victor Davis Hansen says. They're both very concerned
about this. We've got an interesting story that I want
to dig deeper into coming up at the top of
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the hour, and it has to do with particularly Huntington
Beach and how they vote for city council members. There
is undergoing significant changes to the level that there are
some who say this is a big benefit bonus for
Democrats and it will hurt Republicans just the way votes
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are conducted in Huntington Beach thanks to an order from
an Orange County Superior Court judge. So we're going to
get into that detail and hopefully we're going to have
a live guest, Michael Gates, who is the former Huntington
Beach City Attorney, joining us. He's running for Attorney General
in California and he can explain what's changing and why
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it makes such a difference. So that's all coming up
right here on KFI. My name is Sam Shane. I'm
in for John Colobalt. This is KI AM sixty live
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