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May 1, 2026 31 mins

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Homeless Fires
Nick Shirley

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty you're listening to the John Cobel
podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're gonna get right into
this one because this is just just outrageous. The city
is an inhabitable The city of Los Angeles is dangerous.
I've never seen a city allow this situation. There were

(00:23):
almost seventeen thousand fires last year in the city of
LA and according to the LA Fire Department, started by
homeless people, seventeen thousand, forty six every day, forty six
every day, almost two an hour somewhere in the city.

(00:44):
Compared to twenty twenty, it's more than doubled. There were
about seven and twenty twenty. Now seventeen thousand. Every year
it goes up. And there's one fire station in South
LA responded to seventy eight all due to one encampment
underneath the Harvard Freeway on King Boulevard, and nobody Karen

(01:10):
Bass doesn't do anything about it. Seventy eight fires from
one encampment and she does nothing. Well, let's get Freddy
Escobar with the Los Angeles Fire Department Union.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Welcome, Freddy. How are you hey?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
John? It's great to hear your voice. It's great to
be back, and nothing has changed. It's actually gotten worse
since the last time we've spoken about homelessness, about the DSA,
about the politics, it's just getting worse. And to remind
all the listeners, I'm a registered dem and I don't
have a party to go to the city of Los

(01:50):
Angeles is being overran by Democratic Socialists of America and
we need to start paying attention if we want to
keep and get our city back.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I people do not understand what the Democratic Socialists of
America are, but they are behind these these non existent
policies regarding the homeless, because there are no programs, there
are policies. They just the nonprofits steal the money. The
tax money is gone, and it's anything goes in the

(02:26):
streets with the homeless and they start seventeen thousand fires.
And the DSA has four council members. But what's what
the other eleven council members, what's what the mayor, what's
what with the politicians who are not officially in the DSA.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well they get attacked. Well, let's talk about in the
council district you live in CD eleven. We have a
champion over there. Her name is Tracy Park she's being
as a candidate by the name of Paiza Malik, who
is supported by the DSA, Mike Bonn and Hugo Soto.
And this is Hernandez, Isabelle Heraudo and Nithi Raman and

(03:08):
Tracy probably enforces forty one to eighteen more than any
other council districts in the City of Los Angeles. And
the Federation of Labor is attacking her, not endorsing her.
These council members are attacking her, not supporting her, because
she's enforcing the law and the policy of what the

(03:31):
constituents want in her district and should happen across the
City of Los Angeles. And it's a fact.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, she she's my council person. She I know her personally.
She's absolutely the best and she is she's getting She
got all the encampments away from the school zones. She
got them from a lot of sensitive areas that nobody
wanted to have large homeless encampments at. I mean she
she's been doing, she's been doing exactly what a council

(03:57):
person should do. But if he gets an enormous amount
of crap from all these lunatics who want anarchy, this
is anarchy. Seventeen thousand fires a year.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, so my family lives in CD one and CD
thirteen and both of those council districts are up for races,
and CD one and CD thirteen and unices. You know,
as a person, I like her, but her politics hurts
the members that I've been elected to represent, the lack
of forty one to eighteen across the street from fire

(04:31):
Station eleven, there's a post office. The encampments. Made it
on Channel seven News, Channel four News. It was in
the newspaper. There is no enforcement. The park that my
family went to when I was a kid. We played soccer,
we played chess there, we used to walk. There can
no longer be. You can't even go there because it's

(04:51):
infested with drug addicts, with homelessness, and the councils to
hand out needles so they could go ahead and do
more drugs. Yeah, well, because you don't prefer them.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
These people are insane. I'm tired of like debating these people.
And this proves that Karen Bass is a big fat
wire when she claims the street homeless numbers are down
double digits. No they're not, because the fires are up.
How could you have significantly more fires with less homeless
people in the street.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That's crazy because she's lying. She's just making numbers up,
but they get reprinted over and over.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I could tell you I'm back in the streets. I'm
back at fire Station two, which is in East La
Bull Heights. We respond on a regular basis to the
train station, homeless individuals, unhoused, whatever you want to refer
to them, or drop there every single day from everywhere
but La I was. I responded to the incident where

(05:52):
the train caught on fire. And they have videotapes and
videotapes of people breaking in, starting the fires, looting, and
they're saying, no, we don't know if those are homeless
people or not, or on house. You gotta be kidding me.
It is I mean, I've gotten to the point of
we have to make a change, and the status quo

(06:14):
of getting the insider into office is not working. We
need a change, and we need to change fast if
we want to live in the city of Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I can't think of anything worse, and we've all lived
through this with the Palisades fire. There is nothing worse
than have fires sweeping through a neighborhood. Killing innocent people,
destroying people's homes, upending their lives permanently, upending their children's
lives permanently. And every day there's forty six fires, there's

(06:46):
forty six chances that another neighborhood could go down.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
When I lay in bed.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
At night, and I live in a nice area, but
I hear in the distance unending sirens leaving for work
on Sunset Boulevard. Most days there's fire trucks screaming down
headed somewhere. I mean, I just don't understand how everyone
in the city can live like this.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Are they all hypnotized? I mean, are they? Are they?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Is everybody in the city on drugs? How do you
not notice the sirens for seventeen thousand fires and probably
you know it ends the thousands of fire trucks scrambling
around town over the course of a year. I don't
understand how everybody's not crazy about this.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I am. It's not only crazy, it's not only it's
hard to not understand why people aren't outraged. But in
the fire service, we have the same number of firefighters
today we had in nineteen sixties. And I know you've
heard this stat before, six fewer fire stations and five
times the call load for for sixty years. The city

(07:56):
has proven they will not fund our fire department, and
we're doing that fire ballot measure behind the backs of
our members to educate the public. We're using our money
to get it on the ballot so we could have
dedicated funds for a properly staffed fire department for the

(08:18):
City of Los Angeles. And I know none of us
like taxes. None of us do, but we have written
this specifically that it goes to a special fund for
our members LAFD. They can't get to it. We also
have they can't get Well.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's what I want to know, because I've heard about
these special taxes and special funds before. They really can't
break into it and steal it and use it for
everything else because the government is run by thieves. It's
an organized crime racket of criminals.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
And I can't blame you for thinking that way because
I could see the corruption that's happening with the homelessness.
And I'm a homeowner and I don't want to pay
additional taxes. But the City of Los Angeles, the fire Department,
the men and women that I've been elected to represent,
cannot sustain what we are doing anymore because what's going
to happen is ultimately one of us is going to

(09:12):
pay the ultimate sacrifice. So what we're able to do
and it's taken. This didn't happen overnight. This has been
three to four years in the makings. It's a special
fund that must be spent on core LAFD services, more firefighters,
more medics, more fire stations, getting new trucks, engines, ambulance.
And because I know how these wackles think in the horseshoe,

(09:35):
and they're not all wackos, but a lot of them are.
We have to protect by existing funding at a guarantee
level so that the new LAFD money cannot be used
to fund the LAFD.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So well, they have to be majority wackos. I got
I gotta run, Freddy. But I just saw Karen bass
as a new budget for the coming year. There's no increase,
zero increase in the fire budget, even after all that's happened.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
She's insane.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You need additional additional we need additional staffing, everything, And
this is what's gonna happen. Her budget's gonna go out.
City council is going to change it, and we're gonna
do the same thing we did last year. They're gonna
go ahead, Referroughs and cut it.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
When I saw sometime in last year that they were
spending one point three billion on homeless and only eight
hundred billion on the fire department, I got it.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I figured it out. Well, it's all the money going
to the to the homeless corruption.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
And not only that, let me and she's taking money
from the general fund, additional money from the general fund
to address the homelessness. Twenty twenty six, the World Cup
is right around the corner. Are we ready?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Twenty twenty eight, we went close to ready to host
the Olympics, and the answer from the first responders is no.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
All right, Freddy got to run. Thank you for coming on.
Freddy Ascobar from the LA Firefighters Union.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
We just had Freddy Eskomar, he heads the LA Firefighters
Union and in just a galling, astonishing story today it
was in the California Post the number of fires started
by homeless people seventeen thousand in the city of La
in one year. Last year forty six a day, and

(11:26):
six years ago it was seven thousand fires a year.
Now it's seventeen thousand started by homeless people, complete and
total annihilation of civilized life. Okay, when you're up to
seventeen thousand fires, I don't want to hear your stupid
ideas about homelessness. I don't want to hear about your

(11:47):
programs and your philosophy and your ideology. These people simply
have to be locked up in mental institutions and in
drug rehab centers or taken far far away so they
can't even find their way back to La. How the
hell can you have a city where there's seventeen thousand
fires started by homeless people, and you tell me how

(12:09):
Karen Bass can say, oh, well, you know, actually homeless
street homelessness is down seventy percent. Well, then how are
fires increasing at such a rapid rate. It's because she's lying.
She's absolutely positively lying. And here we've covered just in

(12:31):
the last hour four of the most important things when
you run a city that you have to take care
of five actually police fire, getting rid of the homeless,
cleaning up the garbage, and paving the streets. So what

(12:52):
do we know? According to the New budget bass is
presented today. There's going to be no increase in the
police department, even though we need at least two thousand
police hired. There's going to be no increase at the
fire department none. So no new net firefighters, no new
net police officers. We are short over three thousand firefighters

(13:20):
and over two thousand police officers. We have the homeless
setting seventeen thousand fires. We have garbage piled up to
levels that nobody in the modern world has ever seen.
The only time I've seen trash like this was in

(13:42):
Egypt when we went to see the Pyramids and the
Egyptian trash force was on strike. I think they had
hired if I remember the story, they had hired an
Italian company to come in and that didn't work out.
They were hiring goats to eat the garbage. Maybe that's

(14:03):
what we need. Maybe you need thousands of goats in
the street and they'll eat the garbage. We have records
amount of garbage in the street, record low amount of firefighters,
record low amount of police officers, record amount of potholes
and ravaged roadways. And that's another leg here. I told
you last hour, they've only paved nine miles in the city.

(14:26):
Over the last nineteen months, there's seven five hundred miles
in the city of roadway. They've repaved nine. Why because
a stupid law that the majority voted for, saying every
time you pave a road, you got to have a
bike length, and you've got to have a new crosswalks,
and you have to have you have to have new

(14:47):
curbs in order to control the traffic better, and all
this nonsense bus lanes and so the cost of repaving,
just simple repaving, it's so astronomical because of all the
forced additions that they don't pave anything, so nothing gets

(15:09):
paved and everything's crumbling. The whole city's crumbling. So the
roads are the worst in the nation, California City roadways
fiftieth in the nation. Los Angeles the worst city in California,
so the worst roads. We have, the fewest police for
our population, the fewest firefighters for our population by far,

(15:33):
the most homeless by far, the most homeless fires, and
incredible amounts of garbage, the likes of which, again you
will not find on this continent. Karen Bass is in
charge of all that police, fire, roads, garbage, homeless, all
five categories, and she pours more money into the homeless

(15:53):
than she pours into the fire department. Meantime, the fire
people have to chase the homeless around because it starts
seventeen thousand five.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
This is so insane, This is so crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
There is nobody in the whole country, on radio or television,
in a newspaper, or on an internet site who is
writing about these issues right now, because this doesn't exist
in all the other cities in the country, This absolutely
flat out doesn't exist. To have the worst roads, the

(16:26):
most homeless, the most fire started by the homeless, the
smallest police and fire departments for our population size, everything
is a colossal failure, a colossal botch. Karen Dass and majority,
a majority voted for her over Rick Caruso over Rick Caruso.

(16:47):
That's how stupid the public is in the city of
Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Rick Caruso, Ah, yeah, yeah, all right. We've got more coming.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Up to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
We're going to talk now with Nick Shirley. Nick Shirley
is getting a tremendous amount of attention. He's been with
us a couple of times before. He's the young journalist
twenty three years old, who cracked open the Minneapolis fraud
case all the Somalians that were shaking down billions of
dollars out of the Minnesota taxpayers with fraudulent in their case.

(17:25):
There was a lot of fraudulent childcare centers here in California.
It was Armenian immigrants, a crime ring who they were
stealing a lot of money through fake hospices.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
And just today Robert F.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Kennedy Junior, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, made
dis announcement play cut twenty six.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
If you would number twenty six.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
We've already shut down five hundred hospices and Los Angeles,
and by incidentally, we haven't had one call from Congress
or anybody else about complaining because clearly these were fraudulent.
A lot of these places, you'd say they have they

(18:13):
were just invented addresses, they would have obtained pasion identification,
or they would pay people they were going and giving
people in poor neighborhoods flat screen televisions six hundred bucks
and then they would enlist them, enroll them in the hospice,
and we were paying them.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Six thousand dollars. Five hundred hospices.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
You would think there would have been thousands and thousands
of angry families calling in saying why did you shut
down the hospice where my mom or my dad or
my grandparents were spending their final days Instead? Rfk S
has no calls. Nobody in Congress got a single call.
Let's go to Nick Shirley. How are you Nick?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Doing great?

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Had you heard it?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
There?

Speaker 8 (19:01):
There's no one who's dying by these hospices.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
There was nobody in the hospices. So who's going to
complain that there weren't any customers. I mean, when you
were walking around.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
In Van Nuys, you were seeing what just.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Empty office offices, empty storefronts.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Empty offices, empty storefronts, one hundred thousand dollars vehicles, anything
but people who were on the birth of death.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And Newsom has swung around from denying any fraud whatsoever,
going on to claiming you were a pedophile for looking
into the fake childcare offices, to Rob Bonta announcing prosecution
of some of the fraudsters, to now his wife Mia
Banta writing a bill to stop you and anybody else

(20:00):
from doing a public investigation where you're taking public video
of the fraud.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, I talk about.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
This crazier script.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
Like it's absolutely insane. So meanwhile, you have all this
fraud that they said wasn't there, and then they admit
to the fraud, and then they arrest the people for
the fraud. And now the AG's wife is creating a
lot to make it harder for people to expose the fraud.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
And she tried to cover it up by saying, well,
it's harassment of immigrants. But in this case, as in Minnesota,
it was immigrants behind the fraud. They were the ones
who'd organized and created the network exactly.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
And in the wording that they use for this bill,
they're extremely vague. For instance, they said immigrant service providers
at the very bottom of all. After they talk about
legal services, talk about all these other services, they finally
mentioned healthcare services.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's very broad.

Speaker 8 (20:59):
That would mean that if an immigrant was receiving hospice,
it would be illegal to expose them.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
But you were, you were standing out in public space
with your camera with your microphone.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yes, and at this bill.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
Order to get past the people whose businesses are getting shown,
can write on a piece of paper and say.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Hey, don't post this video, and if.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
You post it, they will then give you a four
thousand dollars civil fine.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Four thousand dollars you would be fined for posting a
video of them committing fraud in public.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
Yeah, so I would have had to pay around sixty
thousand dollars for my last hostice video. Essentially.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I mean, they're actually serious about this.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It's so outrageous and it's so unconstitutional what they're doing.
Have you talked to any of atimettorneys who'd be willing
to get this thing blocked in court immediately?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I should probably do that.

Speaker 8 (22:06):
But you think the law, you think, you think the
people who are the politicians of our country, especially in California,
you think they'd realize, oh, this totally breaks the First Amendment.
And so I guess it'll just be interesting to see
if what happened, what happens if this bill does get
put to Newsom's desk, if you will sign a bill
or not.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
You know, he's doing so many stupid things while supposedly
running for president. There's a whole lot of things that
I didn't think he would do because he's running for president,
and he's just he's just doubling down on it all.
So don't I don't know what he would do, but
it's clearly unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I mean this one.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
The thing is, they have a lot of judges who
are part of the progressive movement, and they will will
not they'll refuse to issue injunction. And this thing could
could last for a few weeks until it goes to
an appeals court and in the meantime you're gonna have
you'd be living with the threat of these fines. Ultimately,

(23:03):
I think it would be shot down, but it might
go to the Supreme Court first.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
So even if it does get passed by Governor News
and then the Supreme Court comes in, it'll still take
anywhere from a year to two years for the Supreme
Court done to be able to get rid of the laws.
My theory is they're preparing to if they do somewhere
to win again, they're preparing to flood the country with
immigrants again, because we know that a lot of the

(23:29):
fraud was committed by these NGOs that were trafficking children
into the United States.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
It is it is such an unholy circle because the
nonprofits are trafficking the immigrants. The immigrants are coming in
and they're becoming they're joining nonprofits themselves, they're creating the nonprofits.
They're getting all this money with their fake businesses. And
then you've got the politicians who let them in, signing

(23:59):
a bill trying to pass a bill that would block
you from investigating it and telling the truth. I mean,
it is so crazy. What do you what do you
what do you think is in it for them?

Speaker 8 (24:11):
Well, I obviously disrupted a billion dollar is now they're
training the laws to prevent the fraud from being exposed.
So a lot of people were making money off of fraud.
And uh, these NGOs they make millions and millions of
dollars from our tax dollars. These other services make millions
and millions.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Of dollars as well. So and you know, I got
to believe that.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
In the end, in the end, these same politicians when
you were chasing all weekend, are getting money themselves from
these operations. Somehow, even in campaign donotions, campaign donations under
the table, somehow some of this money is going back
to the people who are allowing this fraud.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
Yeah, one way or another, the money essentially gets brought
back RELs. Why would they fight so hard for this?
These people, the immigrants didn't built them into the their seats,
into their positions.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Do you have it? Can I? Can you stand on
another segment? Sure?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, because I want to go through. I want to
go through some of the people you were chasing. We
played a couple of the audio clips already. So this
is Nick Shirley who's going after a state Assembly people
and state senators up in Sacramento, those who were writing,
co author and co sponsoring this crazy stop Nick Shirley
Act to keep investigators, reporters, citizen reporters, or regular media

(25:32):
from videotaping the fraud that's taking place in public.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
We continue with Nick Shirley.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
He's the investigator, independent investigator who has broken huge fraud
scandals at the state level, both in Minnesota, pretty much
ending Tim Waltz's career as governor you're not running for
a third term, and also coming to California and embarrassing
Gavin Newsom and the Attorney General Rob Bonta, who is

(26:04):
not investigating billions of dollars worth of fraud going on
in the hospice industry, childcare industry, the just a general Medicare,
Medicaid industry. Let's play one clip, because Nick Shirley looks
like you spent the weekend chasing politicians, Assembly and state
senators up in Sacramento. Let's play him going after old on.

(26:25):
There's one here, Oh, Lena Gonzalez, this is the California
state Senator in southeast LA, Lakewood, Long Beach.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
About the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Listen to this. You're
a co author up the stop Nick Shirley.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Go.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Oh, you know who I am? My name is Nick Shirley, ma'am. No,
you signed off on AB twenty six twenty four acts.
Can you tell us about what you don't did on that?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't even know who you are.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Well, my name is Nick Shirley. But either way, can
you tell me about this Assembly bill you're trying to pass. See,
my name is Nick Shirley, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I have no idea.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Could you please just answer any question about the twenty
six twenty four bill. A lot of people are worried
about that. It's going to just stop fraud investination. But
you're the one who signed authen you're a co author
of it. These people are crazy. They can't even answer
your questions about the bills that they're co.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Authoring, and it's bill that would stop what Nick does,
which is investigation of fraud government fraud just by standing
in public, like when he went after the fake hospices
in Van nis Neck.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
You back on there, Yes, sir, I have never heard it.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
A lady's like, completely incomponent.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I've never seen I can't remember the last time
I saw regular reporters confront Sacramento legislators the way you did.
And the reaction you got from them was so they
were so childish and stupid. What what?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
What? What? What made you go there?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, all those individuals are co authors of a bill.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
That's trying to veegal and criminalize.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
People like me who want to expose fraud. So I
heard that they are all going to be there that day,
and they actually had just.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
Voted on a motion to not push some more transparency.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
On this bill.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
And so as they're all walking back to the offices,
I want to ask them one by one there's.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Thoughts on the bill.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
They all either lied, said they didn't know about this bill,
said they hadn't passed the bill, or acted like they
had no idea who I was.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
And all they had to do is.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Just answer the questions like why would you make this bill?

Speaker 8 (28:35):
They can answer it.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
So they lied as to whether they were one of
the co authors. They lied about not knowing who you are,
because your existence is inspired this bill. It wouldn't exist
without you doing the work that day. I mean when
when Fox or CBS did an investigation into the fraud,
they didn't try to stop Fox and CBS, but they

(28:58):
wanted to. They wanted to stop you per personally because
they're afraid there's going to be one hundred more investigators
like you, men and women who are going to make
who are gonna go who are going to completely destroy
the big scam that they have set.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Up exactly like their scamming is so big and they've
made so much money off there that now they need
new laws to protect it.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
None of the Democrats treated you normally. None of them
had a normal conversation with you. I see that you
went after josh Loenthal, Lena Gonzalez, Chris Ward, Robert Reeves.
These are all assembly people and state senators. And let
me see here Isaac Bryan Wiener. We played Wiener before.
None none of them would talk to you.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
None of them would even give me five seconds to
ask them the question where.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
They would answer.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
They literally were running away from me and shrab blind
and like it makes them look so bad. They could
have a civil conversation, but because they don't look at
anything that's true, they have to run away.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
They look like rats or conquaches. Get out of the
worst I have.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I mean, that is such an indictment of how corrupt
they all are.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, they literally could have answered the questions and there
would have been no issue, But they run away because
they know that what they're doing is wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I have never heard of a legislature trying to stop
reporters from reporting so blatantly by threatening to to find
them thousands of dollars.

Speaker 9 (30:45):
M It's it's crazy, and it's a total attack on
all of California. It's an attack on freedom speech, fream
other press, and these two will have no problem with it.
That's the scary part is they don't see anything wrong
with violating your first Amendment.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Well, Nick, you're doing great work. We'll talk again. Thank you,
thank you for doing what you're doing. Of course, because
nobody in the regular meetia is doing this. They used
to not anymore. All Right, we've got more when we
come back. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt
Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on
KFI AM six forty from one to four pm every

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