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February 4, 2026 35 mins

The John Kobylt Show (02/04) Hour 1 - The LA Times reported that Mayor Karen Bass was the one who ordered the Palisades Fire after-action report to be altered. Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with Savannah Guthrie's missing mother. LA City Councilwoman Eunisses Hernandez expressed her disappointment in LAPD after Chief Jim McDonnell said the department was not going to enforce the mask ban on ICE. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome. We've got a
huge news story that just broke just I don't know,
a couple hours ago. As I was driving in I
discovered this. This is big, and all I can tell
you is, in a rational world, Karen Bass's political career

(00:25):
would be over. As of today, she'd be done. I
don't know if that's going to happen, because everybody's crazy.
But in a normal world, in any other time, Karen
Bass would be done and she would not be elected
as mayor of Los Angeles. In fact, she probably would resign.

(00:45):
Here's the story, and this came out from the Los
Angeles Times short to a short time ago, and the headline,
and I'm going to read this verbatim, bass directed but
watering down of the Palisades fire after action report. Bass
directed the watering down of the Palisades fire after action report.

(01:10):
And here's the story. Paul Pringle and a lean check midian.
For nearly two months, Mayor Karen Bass has repeatedly denied
that she was involved in altering the after action report
on the Palisades fire to downplay failures by the city
and the LA Fire Department, but two sources with knowledge

(01:35):
of Bass's office said after receiving an early draft, the
mayor told the interim fire chief, Ronnie Vanueva, that the
report could expose the city to legal liabilities for those failures.
Bass wanted key findings about the LA Fire Department's actions
be removed or softened before the report was made public.

(02:01):
That's according to the sources, and that is what happened.
The changes to the report, which originally was released on
October the eighth, came to light through a Times investigation
in December. The sources told The Times that two people
close to Bass informed them of the mayors behind the
scenes role in watering down the report. One source spoke

(02:24):
to both of the people. The second source spoke to
one of them. The sources requested anonymity so they could
speak frankly about the mayor's private conversations with Viannaweva and others.
The Times is not naming the people who are close
to Bass because that could have the effect of identifying

(02:44):
the sources. One Basque confidante told one of the sources
quote the mayor didn't tell the truth when She said
she had nothing to do with changing the report. The
source says that the confidante advised Bass that altering the
report was a bad idea and would hurt her politically.

(03:08):
According to the source, the two confidants said that Bass
held onto the original draft until after the changes were made.
The source said both confidents are prepared to testify under
oath to verify their accounts if the matter ends up
at illegal proceeding. Both sources said they did not know

(03:29):
if via Aweva or anyone else in the La Fire
Department or in the Mayor's office made line by line
edits at Bass's specific instructions, or if they imposed the
changes after receiving a general direction from her. The second
source said all the changes The Times reported on were
the ones Karen wanted, referring to the Times determination that

(03:54):
the report was altered to deflect attention from the fire
Department's failure to pre deploy cruise to the Palisades before
the fire. Bass did not respond this week to a
request for comment for the article, so she knew this
was coming. He didn't want to talk about it. She
thinks nothing can ever happen to her. That's me speaking

(04:18):
back to The La Times. The mayor has previously rejected
several requests by The Times to be interviewed about the report.
In response to written questions, a spokesperson for Bass's office
said in an email in December, the report was written
and edited by the Fire Department. We did not readline,
review every page, or review every draft of the report.
The spokesperson, Clara Carger, said, the mayor's office only asked

(04:42):
that the fire department fact check any findings regarding the
effect of city finances and high wind forecasts. Bass called
The Times in a brief interview last month she did
not work with the fire department on changes to the report,
nor did the agency consult her about any changes. Quote.
The only thing I told them was to talk to

(05:03):
another bureaucrat, Matt Zebo about the budget and the funding,
and that was it. That's a technical report. I'm not
a firefighter. She's lying. She's lying. She's lying, and so
is her spokesperson, Clara Carter vien Aweva, declined to comment.
That's the interim fire chief. He's made no public statements,

(05:26):
and Jimie Moore said last month he wasn't going to
determine who was responsible he didn't see the benefit of
doing that. I'm also now going to play if you
can get that clip ready. I've been playing this over
the last couple of days and I found it really puzzling,
really puzzling, and nobody in the palis Age community could

(05:47):
understand this. But here's Heimie Moore being pressed by Fox
eleven's Matthew Seedorf, pretty closer to learning who ordered down
this report? And you ordered that to be watered down.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
So, just like the mayor's city address, I think we
need to look forward. We need to look for what's ahead,
that's behind us reasons.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I kind of want those answers, well.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I understand that, but they have to understand what are
they going to do with those answers. They want to
point fingers. They want to point Blane. I've taken ownership.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I've taken ownership. He wasn't a part of this mess.
Now he is. They want to pourt fingers, they want
to point Blane. Yes, everybody does you Just this performance
by Karen Bash and the LA Fire Department officials destroyed
people's lives, irreversibly destroyed their lives. There's thousands of victims here.

(06:42):
Some of them are dead. Some of them have been
forced to move and they'll never return. Everybody's life, from
elderly senior citizens to little children have had their lives
irreversibly altered, traumatized. These are the worst memories of all

(07:02):
these children's lives. This is a horrible way for the
elderly to spend their final days. And now there are
burdens that the parents have, the homeowners have that are
going to go on for years and years and years
with no end in sight because many of them don't
have the money to rebuild and they're not getting insurance.
And it's because of what Karen Bass and Kristin Crowley

(07:23):
and Jennie Kenonias did, period, period, full stop. How about that?
And she hired Kristin Crowley or retained her, She hired
Jennie Keinonias, Bass herself, the three of them, three of
the most incompetent, absolutely destructively incompetent people you'll ever have

(07:45):
in government. And then they promised, oh no, the after
action report. That's how they dodged all the questions for
most of last year. After action report, after action report,
We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. And then
she gets it and changes it and then lies about it.
Karen Bass repeatedly lied about it. She did change it.

(08:08):
Her own staff members are turning on her because they
got to deal with the grief that they see in
the palisades. This is wrong, This is horrible. She doesn't
have a shred of decency, a shred of morality nothing.
I've never seen anybody this ice cold. She can't even

(08:30):
fake it. She should resign immediately. She should not be reelected.
I mean, what kind of a crazy person would vote
for her after she lied? She covered up the truth
and then lied about covering it up. She lied all

(08:52):
the way along, but the early lies. She claimed she
didn't know that there was going to be a big windstorm.
She didn't know there were extreme fire warnings. She lied. Compulsive,
sociopathic liar. I don't know how you show your facing public.

(09:18):
How do you show your facing public after we find
out you are covering up the truth and you're worried
about legal liability. There's plenty of lawsuits out there. The
truth's coming out eventually. You're just trying to delay it
until you get reelected. That's what you're't worried about legal liability.

(09:38):
She doesn't have to pay, and the city taxpayers are
going to have to pay a whopping them ount anyway,
because this is all going to come out and discovery
what was the other thing she did. She had the
attorneys in the civil lawsuits demand from the judge a
thirty day pause on releasing the information from the depositions

(10:02):
to the public, so we're in some kind of blackout
when it comes to the deposition information. And now again,
this is all because we have a primary election coming
up in June. So she's shutting down the news almost

(10:23):
almost pulled it off. But her own people are talking,
her own people are turning on her. So if you're
just joining us, Karen Bass, she is the one who
directed the watering down of the Palisades fire after action
report according to the La Times, she's covering up all
the terrible things that she and the fire department did,

(10:45):
all the incompetence, and then she lied about We'll talk
more about this coming up.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
If you want to vent to the moist line about
the news over Karen Bass caught in the biggest lie
You'll ever find. Eight seven seven Moist eighty six. You
canna let it rip now eight seven seven moist eighty
six or usually talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. This Uh,
this should be the end of her career and she

(11:23):
should be Uh. They should be packing her boxes. And
I mean, I'll pay for a one way ticket. She
can go visit her friend in Gatta. She should be gone.
She has no business running the city of Los Angeles anymore.
She's she's she's done enough destruction, Enough money has been stolen.
This is the end of the line. And if you're

(11:45):
just if you're just joining us. Los Angeles Times released
this just a couple of hours ago and said that
contrary to everything she said publicly, Karen Bass has uh
did did a rewrite or directed people to do a
rewrite of the after action report to water down and
soften the mistakes that were made by the city in

(12:08):
the LA Fire Department. Again, sources told the Los Angeles
Times that Bass directed the watering down of the Palisades
fire after action report. She had said repeatedly that she
didn't do it, didn't have anything to do with it.
You remember, there were six different versions of this report.

(12:33):
These are from people close to Bass. Two people close
to Bass informed two other sources the Karen Bass watered
down the report or ordered someone to do it. One
source spoke to both of the people, the other spoke
to one of them. So this is the inner circle

(12:54):
of Karen Bass. That's where the news is coming from.
And the Times is it naming people. Now. We are
in a bad spot here because first of all, she's
got the rest of this year. But there's so many
people in this city who are not paying attention. They're
ignorant of what's going on, or they're blinded by whatever

(13:15):
their political obsession is, or they're they're they're in on it,
They're they're in on the on the grift. I mean,
you have city unions which routinely vote for whatever candidate
is going to promise them the most come contract time,
and they don't really care if the section of the

(13:35):
city burns down and disappears. Uh, they don't care about
all the mental patience and vagrants piled up in the
streets dying. All they know is they got theirs. They're
in their kickback, and then they cycle all their salaries,
cycle the union dues to the politicians in the form

(13:57):
of political contributions or actual kickback. I don't think we've
discovered one tenth of one percent of the corruption that
goes on in this city and state. I think the
whole thing is a rant, sid cesspool, the whole thing.
And Karen Bass sits at the top of the La
pyramid and considering the suffering that people have gone through

(14:20):
in the Palisades, oh my god, the emotional suffering and
the tears and the struggle, and she knows it, she knows,
and so she kept lying everybody, Oh, I had nothing
to do with watering down the report. I had nothing
to do watering down the report. And then there's this stooge.
Would you would you play play the Honeymoon clip again?

(14:44):
If you could, we closer to learning who ortered down
this report and you ordered that to be watered down.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So, just like the mayor's State of the City address,
I think we need to look forward. We need to
look for what's ahead, that's behind us.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Kind of want those answers, Well.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I understand that, but they have to understand what are
they going to do with those answers. They want to
point fingers, they want to point Blaine, I've taken ownership.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
What are they going to do with those answers? What
a stooge he ought to resign to. Come on, let's
go for a fourth fire. Chief. He is not He
is not representing the people who pay his salary. What
an absolute stooge. How much money does he make between

(15:31):
he and Karen Bass? All the benefits, all the perks,
all that, and when the most important moment of their
public lives happens, they cover everything up, and then they
lie about it, and then they taunt the people in
the palisades. Well, what are they gonna do with the answers?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Karen Bass was afraid that it was gonna end up
being a bigger lawsuit, although I don't think you can
get it any bigger. But again, the real reason she
doesn't want the bad headlines during the campaign. That's why
she had the report order down. That's why she lied
about it and covered it up. That's why she ordered
HEIMI I have no testicles more to follow along with

(16:14):
the party line. What are they gonna do with the answers?
As if they're meaningless? Well, if they're meaningless, Dallas, But
Haimi Moore is protecting his career and protecting Karen Bass's
reelection because I don't think the next Beyar is gonna

(16:34):
keep him. I wouldn't. There's no integrity here at all.
There's no morality at all none. That's deception of the
worst disaster ever in American history from a fire at
A year later, these said, what these clowns are doing.
They're playing hide the ball, figuring nobody's gonna notice, nobody's

(16:57):
gonna call him on it. And I gotta say, this
is where we are. The La Times and our show
here is the only ones calling him on it, the
only ones beating the drum on this h on the
horrific response by the fire department and the horrific preparation
by Karen Bass. Does this stuff make the TV? I

(17:21):
don't even know, because I look every day. I go
to every television station every day looking looking for material.
I don't see this stuff. I see The Times, which
deserves like ten Pulleter prizes for this one. Now, much
of the rest of the paper is garbage, but they're
doing it right here, these two writers, Paul Pringle and

(17:44):
Nalen Chick Midian Oh, I was telling you before about
all all the people who were denying like Bass was
denying that they ordered it down via Deaweva, the interim
treat chief wouldn't talk. Wait a second, there's another stooge here. Oh,
the fire commit should President Genethia Hudley Hayes. She said

(18:06):
Van Aweva told her in August that a draft of
the report was sent to Bass for refinements. She didn't
know what the refinements were, and she called the city
attorney about the possible changes. Hudley Hayes was another loser
appointed by Bass, and said after reviewing an early draft
and the final document, she was satisfied that material findings

(18:27):
were not altered. Well, they were, so, Hudley Hayes. Again,
it's part of the cover up. Apparently they were very
important if Bass had them deleted or rewritten. So who's
going to finally tell the truth. Remember the guy who
originally wrote the report is Battalion Chief Kenneth Cook, and

(18:48):
he refused to endorse the final version because it was
the changes were so egregious he didn't want his name
on it anymore. He called the report highly unprofessional and
inconsistent with our established standards. That's fancy language for a
pack of lies, a pack of lies. Bass needs to resign.

(19:10):
She should be forced out if there's a way to
force her out. And nobody, nobody should vote for this woman. Nobody.
It's called people diet dead and there's thousands homeless and
ed ed.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Up.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Until yesterday, the permit fees weren't waved. But now with
the Trump administration coming to town, suddenly the city council
waved the permit fees. How about that after a year,
thirteen months, everybody was begging to get the permit fees waved.
When did it happen the day before the Trump administration

(19:50):
officials arrive. We come back, We're gonna we're gonna talk
more about this later on. Uh, who do we got next?
We got to Alex stone STOLLKNA all right, because there's
all kinds of weird stuff coming about the missing mother
of missing mother of Savannah Guthrie, the Today Show host
Nancy Guthrie still missing, but boy, there's a lot of

(20:11):
weird rumors. Today.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A
six forty.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
We're going to return to the story Karen Bass caught
in the Great lie of the Los Angeles Times. She
did order the watering down of the Palisades Fire after
action report, and she lied and her staff lied repeatedly
about it. She was behind all the edits and the
changes and the deletions. We'll get to that again later on.

(20:40):
We're going to go to Alex Stone. Now, Nancy Guthrie,
the mother of Savannah Guthrie, the Today Show anchor, is
still missing. All kinds of wild rumors swirling around all morning. Alex.
What's true and what's not? Well, that's a good question. So, yeah,
today there were these reports that Nancy guthrie son in law,

(21:01):
the husband of Savannah's sister, that he was a suspect
now and that they have honed in on him. But
the Sheriff's department has come out real strongly saying no,
that they're talking to all family members as would be
routine in something like this, and they have not identified
any person of interest, no suspect in this case. In fact,
they pretty firmly chastised those reporting it today and other

(21:24):
gossip that's been out there that people have been putting
out his facts saying that it's wrong and that none
of it is helping the investigation. But today the sheriff
is very quiet, and he said yesterday that he needed
time away from the media and won't be giving any
updates to reporters until tomorrow. But we did note today
John here for the first time what it sounded like

(21:45):
as units were told about Nancy Guthrie missing on Sunday,
And it's interesting as it went out, it went out
as an unable to locate, which is pretty normal for
like an old person who would walk away and try
to find them, not as a kidnapping victor or a
crime victim, just on a utl unable to locate. If
you see her, here's what she looks like. This would

(22:06):
have sounded like a.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Reference Nancy White, female eighty four age five teen million
villains crime rec things after twenty eight hours because of yesterday,
a high wall pressure pacemaker and cardiac issues.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
High blood pressure, pacemaker, cardiac issues that even though the
sheriff says there were signs of a crime that pretty
i mediate unseen, that was about five hours, six hours
after they responded to the scene, that that unable to
locate was put out and then deputies driving around were
just kind of casually looking at people who were walking
down the street to see if if any of them

(22:41):
were her and wondering what tell me again what she
looks like? Is listen to these deputies on the radio
from Broadcastify.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Do we have a description yet of a subject?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Eighty eighty four year old female, unknown clothes.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Not super mobile, possible, are walking with a cane?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, And then one of the deput he says, oh,
I just saw somebody walking down the street, but it
wasn't her. And they said, well, just get out and
ask if it's her. And so initially it seems like
there was no indication that a crime had occurred, that
they more thought that this was just an older person
who had walked away, but that apparently changed in the
hours after they were unseene, with the sheriff saying pretty
clear that there was a kidnapping going on. But at

(23:19):
this point they don't know who took her, they don't
know her whereabouts, they don't know if she's alive or dead.
That they say, there's nothing indicating either of those. Has
there been any follow up on this alleged ransom note? Well, yeah,
so it was sent to TMZ and every local station
in or most of the local stations in Tucson that

(23:40):
they all got it. It's the same letter there's nothing
to authenticate it at this point. You know, everybody was
most handed it right over to the FBI, and then
it got out that TMZ had it. They reported it,
and then the other stations said, oh, they had it,
but they were staying quiet. And according to the FBI

(24:00):
and to the Sheriff's department that they're looking at it
and they've got to authenticate it. We don't know anything
today that would indicate it Israel that we know they're
getting a ton of this kind of stuff, you know
that they're Yeah, I mean every crack pot and every
scam artist can can send a fake ransom note because
you got you got eight billion people with access to

(24:22):
the internet now, yeah, and I mean it's either trying
to make money by getting them to send you bitcoin
or just to hear about it us talking about it
right now and TMZ talking about it, or did it
think it's funny and disrupt the investigation, or it may
very well be real. They don't seem to know, and
we don't know either, and so there doesn't seem to

(24:43):
be anything to this thing that was originally put out
by Ashley Banfield, who used to be a TV host,
that she claimed she had real good sources in law
enforcement that it was the brother in law of Savannah Guthrie.
But that turns out to be a nothing. I just surprised.
He's been in the business for decades. It's on her
podcast that she said it, and then News Nation ended

(25:06):
up putting out a news release this morning saying that
she said it, and then that's when it got picked
up by everybody. The Sheriff's department says that that is
not accurate. We'll see, I mean, maybe in the end
there'll be something to her information, but yeah, that they
were pretty strong and their wording today saying that the
unverified reports don't do anything to about the investigation. And
the police do a lot of misdirection as well when

(25:28):
they're trying to zero in us on a suspect. So
doubt and we don't know if they are right now
or they just don't know anything. Think we remember Brian
Coberger up in Idaho. Remember how they acted dumb for
a very long time, and we know that they knew
that they were honing in on Brian Coburger and everybody
was saying, why don't they know? How did they not know?
And the whole time they knew, but publicly they were

(25:49):
acting like they had no idea what was going on.
We don't know. They're very good actors at this point
if they actually know something, but because they keep saying
and that the sheriff is said, they just don't know. Alextone,
thank you. You got to thank jo Alex Stone, ABC
News reporting on Savannah Guthrie's mom still missing, eighty four
year old Nancy Guthrie. I a bizarre story, all right.

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Luke barr on. It looks like some kind of an
agreement has been made between Tom Holman and Minnesota officials

(26:58):
there's going to be fewer agents from ICE, but it
looks like local officials are going to be turning over
criminal aliens in their custody. We'll get all the details
coming up.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
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Speaker 1 (27:17):
John Cobelt's show. We're on every day one until four o'clock,
and now you can get the podcast as soon as
each hour has ended, So the one o'clock hour, which
we're in the midst of, will be posted shortly after
two o'clock. And what we covered in the first half
hour was the big bombshell from the Los Angeles Times,

(27:39):
which in a normal world would end Karen Bass's career
today that she lied repeatedly, that she either changed the
after action report, softened it, or ordered somebody to do
it on her behalf. And that's according to people within
Karen Bass's circle or inner circle, who spoke to two

(28:01):
sources that the LA Times quoted anonymously. And it looks
like that Karen Bass has been lying and she had
a reason for it. She did the changes to protect
legal liability for the city, which is nonsense because everybody's
going to testify under oath and we're gonna find out
for sure what happened eventually. But what she wanted is

(28:24):
to keep the report buried while she runs for reelection.
And she got caught. And so I'm just begging people,
and you should beg everybody you know, do not vote
for her anymore and write to city Hall. Clall city
Hall now, send out a message on Twitter, every possible

(28:49):
way to communicate with City Hall, and everybody who works
there for Karen Bass should be told repeatedly that's it.
That's enough. You've done enough destruction and now you're cover
bring it up and lying about it no more. I mean,
this has got to stop. We cannot go another day
with this lady. She's crazy. She's crazy, she's incompetent, she's destructive,

(29:11):
she's overwhelmed, and she's a liar, just cold hearted, sociopathic liar.
Considering the suffering that's going on, and I've seen it
up close, a lot of suffering, and this is what
she does. She covers up the truth, covers up the truth,
and that stooge, fire chief Honeymore goes with her. What

(29:33):
are they going to do with the information? And there's
more idiots in government, there's so many of them. One
guy who tried to tell the truth this week, the
LA Police Chief, Jim McDonald. He said that he's not
going to enforce the Gavin new some stupid mask band
on ICE agents. And before he goes, oh, he can't

(29:56):
do that, read the Institution. There's something called the supremacy Clause.
And on matters that the Constitution assigns to the federal
government to their responsibility. They decide what the laws and
the regulations are. And since ICE is a function of

(30:19):
the Department of Homeland Security, which is a cabinet level agency,
the President the head of Homeland Security, they get to decide.
But the dress code is and if they say masks,
the ICE agents wear masks. If they say no masks,
there's no masks. If they tell them to wear pink

(30:41):
Ballerina slippers, then the ICE agents do that as well.
Because Trump and all Land Security is in charge, Congress
hasn't overruled them, Supreme Court hasn't overruled them. And it's
been part of the Constitution for two hundred and fifty years.
So you can't have a local law enforcement agency tell

(31:04):
a federal law enforcement agency how to dress. Besides, it's
really impractical, which is what Jim McDonald was pointing out.
He said, you can't have an armed local law enforcement
agency take on a an armed federal law enforcement agency.
That's we're not going to do that. This was poorly
thought out as a bad idea. He's telling the truth

(31:26):
because it is now. When you have a stupid idea,
who's going to embrace the stupid idea a stupid person
and you don't, they don't come dumber, then you unses Hernandez,
councilwoman who's presiding over that disgusting cesspool, MacArthur Park, Well,
she's upset that the LAPD is not enforcing the ice

(31:49):
ice mask band. Let's play cut number one and you
can hear her words.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
I just want to go the sentiment of Councilmember Soto
Martinez and council Woman Rodriguez just about the disappointing comments
by the chief on the state bill around mass It
really felt like for me in that moment where he
should have stood up for the city of Los Angeles
and he just said he wasn't going to enforce a

(32:14):
law that was past the state legislator. And I find
that very problematic, especially in this moment where we need
to be standing ten toes down for a city. So
I just want to share the concerns and feeling about.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
That we should be standing ten toes down. What does
that mean? I never heard that expression, you know, Eric, Yeah,
it means basically, you got to stand your ground and
stick up for what you believe in standing ten toes down,
like putting both your feet on the ground and not moving.
I see you have to stick your toes into the ground. Yeah, sure,
if you want. When you didn't tip over, Yeah, I

(32:47):
just never heard that Phrasell's she could be disappointed all
she wants. McDonald's right, Hernandez is wrong. There's again the
supremacy clause. I don't know if Hernandez can read. It's
possible she can't read. Considering the illiteracy rates coming out
of the public schools in Los Angeles, it's very possible
she has no idea what the word supremacy means, let

(33:09):
alone understanding the power of that concept in the Constitution,
which means federal law supersedes state and local law. So
there's and I told you this the first time Newsom
came up with this stupid idea. He did it for attention,

(33:31):
because he knows it can never be enforced. It's impossible
on a practical level. It's impossible too, not going to
get police officers engaging in what a standoff, a shootout
over a mask. She is such an embarrassment, such a
colossal embarrassment, but hey, that's what people vote for. By

(33:54):
the way, one more thing, we were talking with Alex
Stone about this Savannah Guthrie, her mother being missing, Nancy Guthrie,
and we mentioned Nashley Banfield, who has her own podcast
now online. She's a long time anchor for various networks.
She says she has a source, police source that they're

(34:17):
looking at the brother in law of Savannah Guthrie, married
to Savannah's sister, as the top suspect, and they've Tody's cart.
Forty minutes ago, she was on with Megan Kelly on
Serious XM and is standing by the story and standing
by her source. So we'll see when we come back.
We're gonna talk to ABC News law enforcement reporter Luke

(34:39):
Barr in Minneapolis. Some kind of deal has been made
between Tom Holman and Minnesota officials. It looks like some
Ice agents will be pulled, but there'll be a new
level of cooperation regarding criminal aliens. We'll talk about it
with Luke bar next, Debra Mark Clive mccaffie, twenty four
Hour News Room. Hey, you've been listening to the John

(34:59):
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