December 19, 2024 • 33 mins
CA State Assemblyman Carl DeMaio comes on the show to talk about a piece he wrote about the training session new assemblymembers have to go through. More on the deputy mayor who is being investigated for calling in a bomb threat. Brad Garrett comes on the show to talk about the latest with Luigi Mangione. Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the latest regarding the drones in New Jersey.
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We continue now with you know.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's gonna be a new legislative session up in that
tox success pool in Sacramento, and one of the new
assembly members is our old friend Carl DeMaio, who runs
Reform California, an activist group that's done a lot of
good work to try to fight all the nonsense that
comes out of Sacramento, and he's now an assemblyman representing
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a district as a Republican in the state Assembly. And
as you know, when you get a new job, join
a new company, they have a training seminar for you.
And he's attended it and written a piece for the
Southern California News Group about it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Carl, how are you, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, did they give you an employee badge or I
guess a security card to get through?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I cannot understand how untethered from reality these folks are.
But when you, you know, start your first day on
the job, they're trying I would say, to brainwash you
or you know, put you in some sort of reprogramming camp.
It's how to be a politician and avoid accountability. That's
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what I would you know, title this training course. They
sit you down and the first thing they do is
they say we're going to go through all the epics rules,
and they walk through ethics rules. You know, you're allowed
to take gifts from lobbyists up to five hundred dollars
a year per person per lobbyists. And I'm like, I
don't know about you, but most people when they get
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a job, they're not told hey, as a new employee,
do you know that people randomly are going to show
up at the office and they're just going to give
you gifts up to five hundred dollars, but you can
only take up to five hundred. They then tell you
how you can get around having to report it. They say,
you know, the lobbyists can buy your dinner every night.
They can serve you alcohol as long as it can
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fit on a small plate, or what they call the
toothpick rule, where you're eating food paid for by lobbyists
and drinking their booze. As long as it's not too much,
you don't have to report it, and as long as
other people are there also getting booze and food. It's
considered a widely attended reception. You get to hit reception
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after reception each night in Sacramento, and you get to
wine and dine at their expense. And I'm sitting back.
I'm literally they thinking, you people are absolutely insane. Buy
your own damn meal every night. That's what the real
people in the world have to do. Your own constituents
have to buy their own meals, and no one's giving
them five hundred dollars per person per year.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So they really go out on these reception tours every night,
picking at small plates of food all evening and drinking.
I guess it's unlimited how much you can drink.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah. No, I One of the Assembly members who's an incumbent,
was briefing the new incoming freshman class. And by the way,
these are by person training classes because they're not talking
policy or politics. They're just talking about how the corrupt
system works. And she said, oh, yeah, I have my
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staff put four or five different receptions on my calendar.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Just loaded up.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I don't care what the receptions are about. I just
show up and get the food. And I'm sitting there
thinking to myself, Oh, if only, if only the voters
could know about this. So then the second thing that
they teach is how to kill popular ideas, how to
kill popular bills with you know, a good policy in
it without voting no, because if you vote know then
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the then I guess the constituents the voters would find
out that you're actually trying to stop something good from happening.
So what they do is they say, here's how you
can kill bills that that are wildly popular. First, the
Democrat leadership that runs the show has something called the
Rules Committee. And the Rules Committee could just decide not
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to refer a popular vote to a committee. But we
know that that makes it really apparent that the leadership
doesn't want something. So what we can do is we
can send it to a committee, and the chairman of
the committee could just decide not to bring the bill up,
not to hold a hearing, not to hold a vote. Well,
sometimes that doesn't work either. So what we do is
you can have a hearing on the bill and some
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of the members that don't give a rip what happens
back home can vote against it. But if you're in
a target seat, you can get up and walk out
and you don't even have to vote, and a bill
could actually die with most people not voting at all.
And then, finally, the dirtiest trick is that you can
actually vote for a bill, but then walk down the
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hallway to another committee called the Appropriations Committee, and you
can tell them behind the closed door, can you please
kill this bill without a vote. So the Appropriations committee
is the last stop, the last trick that they have
to kill a popular bill without voting against it. This
is where any bill that costs any money, and by golly,
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most bills do cost money, can go to the Appropriation Committee.
And what they do is they just simply say, well,
we don't have time to talk about it, so we're
going to just file it away in something called the
suspense file. And that means that no vote has to
be cast against the bill, it dies. And this is
how the lobbyists, the powerful special interests, the corporate interests,
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the union bosses are able to go and stop that
legislation that they don't want that might be very popular
back in the district with the people, but they can
kill it without the politicians being held accountable. This is
the insanity that they work under.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
They explain this at the training session.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes it's called a briefing in the legislative process, and like, no,
this is not a legislative process. This is a let's
screw the voter's process. That's what we should describe this as.
And the final thing that they brought up was that
a lot of things get done through the bureaucracy that
they that they have given unelected bureaucrats massive amounts of
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power to impose taxes too. They call them fees, but
they're really taxes.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
California Resources are.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Born exactly to ban gas powered cars, to to ban
gas powered leaf blowers to ban gas appliances, and so
they talk about how you can say that you're against
something while the bureaucracy just basically makes it happen, and
and and so all of these briefings are done. At
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one point they gave us a budget briefing, and so
the slide that was up there said that the state
budget is quote essentially balanced, And I said, well, what
does the word essentially mean is that like me essentially
paying my rent or essentially paying my college loan. You know,
you either did or did not balance the budget. And
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then they said that the reason why the budget's not
going to be balanced there were in a fiscal crisis
is that the citizens aren't providing enough revenue that there's
a revenue shortfall. Oh, well, aren't and that's a lie. Yeah,
the lie about the revenue shortfall is number one, we
are actually paying more on revenue historically than ever before.
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But secondly, the reason why it's not growing as fast
as they want is they've chased all the good revenue
contributors out of the state. It's called people moving out
of the state, particularly the job base. And finally, the
real problem is they're spending their excessive, wasteful spending, but
none of that was on the slide. So I took
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a picture of the slide and I tweeted it out.
Someone ran into the room staff member and tried to
chastise me, saying, you're not allowed to share closed meeting
information or you won't be invited in the future. And
I said, well, guess what you see this pin I
am a member. I'm going to come to your briefing,
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whether you like it or not, because I have a
right to because I'm now elected to this body. But
they don't look kindly on people talking about what happens
behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Have you gotten a response yet to the article that
you wrote in the newspapers?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh, they're furious. I mean, the media has been contacting
me about it because it was posted yesterday yesterday morning,
and we've already had a number of people in the
media asking about it. But my colleagues, yeah, not very happy.
And I don't care. My job is not to make
them happy. My job is to go up there and
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open up the curtains and let the sunlight just come
rolling in because the public deserves to know. And for
Democrats out there and Republicans. I don't care what your
party label is. You should be pissed about this. This
is corruption. This is why we don't get good things.
This is why the system fails us.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, we had Bill A. Saley on yesterday. He was
here in the studio.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And he's one of the good ones, the Republicans from.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The Inland Empire. And I think he used the same
phrase you did, untethered from reality are something.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So no, he's one of the good ones. He's one
of the good ones. We need more like him up there.
But you know, hopefully as more people wake up and
realize that this is a broken system, they may demand change.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Wow, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So this is in the Southern California Newsgroup papers, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So it'll be in all sixteen of their papers.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I've done a podcast on it, and I know some
other media outlets are picking it up. But the more
people realize the corruption and broken nature of this system,
the better. Because these politicians benefit from these tricks. And
when a politician said, oh, yeah, well I didn't vote
against that bill, I'm so sorry it died, you need
to turn them and say, well did you show up
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to the damn hearing you know, had you gone and
gone to the floor and demanded a consideration the bill
on the floor, because there's a lot of ways that
they can get these bills voted on, but they just
choose not to.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Carl, thank you for coming on, and please come on
any time you want as you learn what goes on
in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Thanks so much. Merry Christmas, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Mary Christmas, Carl DeMaio, the Republican Assembly, and from San Diego.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
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six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The drone story died down for a couple of days.
I don't know why. I don't know if the number
of drones dropped off. Maybe whoever sent them up into
the sky realized there was a lot of blowbacks. Maybe
the Chinese started thinking that, oh, the Americans have finally
woken up.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Maybe they're you know, they're traveling, it's the holiday season.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The drona maybe the drones right what you know, it'd
be it'd be a great Christmas movie. I thought, Yeah,
Santa sends all these drones in order to map his
route on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
But is he going to start dropping gifts?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, he needed money, but he inadvertently, inadvertently starts this
huge panic and it whips up the whole country and
people start running out, and they got their their ar
fifteen rifles and they're ready to shoot down the drones.
And Assenta doesn't know what to do because he didn't
mean to create a panic and get everybody angry.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Okay, then send money.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, I haven't worked out the rest of the movie yet.
Is there a Rudolph drone? There could be a Rudolph drone? Yeah,
I think there's something there all right. Anyway, Alex Stone
is coming on in a few minutes because there were
two developments in the drone story. One of them is
the FAA has banned drone activity in some areas of
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New Jersey and they warned that they'll use deadly force
against the drones if they think there's a risk.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
How come to that?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Why did they suddenly announce this? For four weeks they
ignored the thing and told us we were all crazy.
Now they're ready to shoot something down, all right. That's
with Alex Stone in a few minutes. I cannot believe this.
This came out late in the show yesterday. Karen Bess,
Deputy Mayor Brian Williams had an FBI raid at his house.
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They think he called in a bomb threat against city Hall.
Have you seen this guy? Bow tie guy? As deputy mayor,
guess what? He was in charge of public safety. He
was working on police hiring, public safety spending, and the
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search for a new police chief. He's been in government
for decades. He was a deputy mayor when James Han
was running things.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Remember him.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's twenty years ago. He was an assistant city attorney.
He was executive director of the Sheriff's Civilian Oversight Commission.
And right now, not only the police department he was overseeing,
he was overseeing the fire department, the Port Police, and
the airport police.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And they think he called in a bomb threat. The
hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And uh, Karen Bass put him on administrative leave. Does
that mean he still gets paid?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Wow, that's a good way to get some some time off.
You may want to consider that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna call in a bomb throat.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And then a bomb. You have to know how to pronounce.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
It right, and then I'll get paid.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
They'll put you on administration. I think he gets paid.
I I'm not one hundred percent usually.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You do when you're on doesn't say he's suspended or anything.
He's probably got some kind of protections. There's no other
details about the about the investigation.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He denies it, of course he does. Well, that's the
that's one of the details, right.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
If he admitted it, then he loses the pay while
he's on it, and he needs to be on administrative
lead to pay his legal bills.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
The detectives from l a p D's Major Crime Divisions
conducted surveillance that led them to Williams, but because he
has over an oversight role on the lapd UH, they
transferred it to the FBI because it was a conflict
of interest. Williams was described by several people in city
government as a soft spoken presence, someone who has never
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shown anger or impulsive behavior. Those are the guys I
don't trust. I tell you, there are two classes of
people I don't trust. People who are always calm or
people who are always happy in perky.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know, there's darkness like you.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You see me not be happy in perky.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I know, but the other day I know.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But first, at first I just saw you as happy
in Perky all the time, and I thought, oh, no,
there's something going on.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, then you got to really know me. That's right.
It's like, whoa. I didn't think it was that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Peggy Names lives next door in Pasadena, so they got
an actual neighbor and she shocked. He's not capable of that.
It's ridiculous. They must have the wrong Brian Williams. I'm positive. Yeah,
maybe it's the news anchor. Maybe it's that Brian Williams
is calling in bomb threats. They're a wonderful family. They
go to church every Sunday. They're upstanding pillars.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Of the community.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh man, whenever a neighbor uses that word that, I
know somebody's up to no good and we've enjoyed having
them as neighbors for over twenty years. Well, yeah, he
didn't call any bomb threats into your house. I want
to see where that story goes. There has got to
be a juicy one there, all right. When we return
right after Deborah's news, Happy Perky Deborah alex Stone from
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ABC about why is now the FAA threatened to shoot
drones down in New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Right, before the news I had told you that we
were going to have Alex Stone on to talk about
why the FAA suddenly wants to shoot down the drones
in New Jersey, and he will come on in about
fifteen minutes. First, we're talking to Brad Garrett from ABC
News to Crime and Terror terrorism analyst, because today was
the day that Luigi Mangeon was transferred to New York
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City to face the murder charges for shooting Brian Thompson,
the United Healthcare executive, and there's going to be federal
charges against Mangeon as well. We're going to talk with
Brad Garrett now on how all this is going to work. Brad,
how are you?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm good, John, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I I mean at first, you know, a few days ago,
we thought that mangeone was going to be refusing to
be extraduided for thirty days, and now we find out
there's federal charges coming against him and he's shown up
in New York City. What do you think changed his
mind about waiving the extradition.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Well, there's some belief that his attorneys asked for discovery
documents in advance and maybe they got those. I don't
know the true answer, but there had to be something
to sweeten the pie to get him to waive extradition.
I mean, it would have happened anyway, but he would
have he'd still be in.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Pennsylvania probably for the next X number.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Of weeks until they had a hearing, and then the.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Judge would order him removed.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
And what happened today would happen in probably in January
or so. But you know, the point being, he is
back here the unknown today obviously is I guess even
his attorney is sitting in state court waiting for him
to arrive, and the next thing she apparently knows is
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he's in federal court. So I don't know what happened there.
I mean, obviously the Feds charged him. They must have
worked out something at the last minute with NYPD and
the state prosecutor in New York City, but that's where
he was. So he's in federal custody and so be
in a federal walk up in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Is he going to potentially face two trials for the
same crime at the federal and state LEFTL.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, we'll see how that works out. I mean, I
realized there's.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
People yelling double jeopardy, but the Feds would not have
charged it with that to at least legally to occur.
It may be the type you know, this gets into
the legal wordsmithing of you know what the federal charges.
There's a couple of stalking charges.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
There's a murder charge.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Yeah, and the murder charges obviously based on what happened,
but it's you know, it talks about that he traveled interstate,
which makes it a federal crime. You know, he had
a illegal firearm, et cetera, and he could now potentially
face the death penalty in the federal system, of which
New York I don't believe has So is that another
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sort of approach by the prosecutors. Maybe we'll have to
see are.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They going to work in concert with each other, the
federal and the state prosecute. It's going to be a
cooperative investigation.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
I mean, they would have to because the evidence is
the same. And obviously a large chunk of this evidence
was collected by NYPD. So it's a little weird. I mean,
have we done cases where the state, like here in DC,
where the local court has prosecuted somebody and then we
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move them up the street and prosecuted federally. Yes, but
the charges will be different. Now, like I said before,
they're going to argue that the way the federal law
is written, it's not that the jeopardy.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But we'll see. I'm not sure that there's a meriton in.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Prosecutor in price for this force a similar type of crime,
just because it doesn't sound like it's a good use
of time. Right, I mean, it's exactly the same evidence.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I remember, right, the guy who whacked Paul Pelosi with
a hammer in San Francis, let's go, he got charged
federally and yeah, and in the state as well, right.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Right, And again it was it's the type of charges
the Fed's brought. You know, you get into a situation
with the federal charge in that case because obviously Representative
Pelosi is covered by federal law because she's an elected official,
which was also because you know, he admitted that's why
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he went to the house was to harm her because
she just wasn't there. So that's the federal hook with him.
The state obviously it's a you know, it's assault with
the deadly weapon, attend to kill. Whatever the charges are,
which is a different bent obviously in the Feds. But
to your point, we'll have to see how this storts
out federal versus state on a murder case.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They certainly have a lot of evidence against him, don't they.
I mean that they collected in Pennsylvania primarily.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Yeah, Pennsylvania. I think that's when they got a notebook.
He had those pages through or full pages hands written,
where you know, he talks about what he's done. And
then in this federal complaint John that just came out
a few hours ago, you know, he makes makes comments
like you know, only a month and a half to
go before the investor's conference, and they write, this is
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a true windfall.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I mean you really have to look at the words.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
He uses in in how he is so clear in
his mind that this has to be done. I mean
using terms like whacking the CEO again his words, and
it's all like it's it's much similar to like people
who have been radicalized that that are true believers, believers
in whatever they're true believing, you know, whether those prices
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or archaia or whatever. But you know, obviously this he's
a true believer in that the healthier system is needed
to be taken omen and that you know, he even
glows a little bit about it. You know, he was
willing to pay the price to do that, so he
has I mean basically with his wife. I'll be shocked
if he doesn't end up with life without parole at
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the very least.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But we'll see. It's it's you know, it is the
case that has such an abundance of evidence.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
You've got you've got DNA and I think, and you've
got fingerprints. He left that stuff at the scene, you know,
the water bottle and I think a candy wrapper or
some sort of rapper. They got genetic material I think
off of both of those, or one of them at least.
And the weapon matches the one that was on his
person in Altoona, Pennsylvania is the weapon that killed Brian Thompson.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I keep hearing legal people raving about his defense attorney,
uh and I'm thinking she may be the greatest attorney ever.
But exactly what can the defense be Since we all
saw it on video, what happened, and all the evidence
you just discussed, what what are they going to say?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Well, it's a good point.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
I mean, looking at it as an outsider and being
involved in a lot of murder cases, I would say,
generally speaking, you know, you have two avenues when the
evidence is this good and one is insanity, which I
don't think based somewhat little I know, that would work.
Or you go after the process, in other words, that
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the evidence wasn't collected, processed, or stored correctly. Now, assuming
that was done correctly, that's not going to get you
anywhere either. My guess is she's also going to argue
in state and federal court to what you and I
were talking about a few minutes ago. Is this double
jeopardy And we'll see about that. So the point is
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there's some there are legal things she can do that
will that will spread this out for a while.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm sure you saw the polly I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm sure you saw the poll the other day that
of people under thirty thought it was accept the bull
that that the healthcare executive gets murdered. Right, Yeah, Could
you go for a long shot for jury nullification or
a hung jury if you get the right jury mix
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of sympathetic people who think this is a message to
the healthcare industry that had to be sent.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Well, you certainly are going to have to be careful
about what questions are asked and how thoroughly you sort
of vet people to your point, that's exactly right, and
you'll have a judge that will jump in and make
comments about that. You know, people are you know, person
access is too biased to sit on a jury based
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on what they just told us. That will potentially take
a while. I mean, there's an interesting thing, John, when
you look at why people are so attracted to this
kind of case. You know, three things according to the.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Experts to study this stuff is the following.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
If you have an attractive defendant, you know, like this kid,
or like Scott Peterson or like Ted Bundy, there's there
that's part of the attraction. And then you add to it. Now,
the first two don't work for Bundy or Peterson, but
they work for Mangeone is that there's a cause.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
In other words, he's.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Going after the healthcare industry like you just described, and
people are empathetic to that. And the third is violence.
That because he used violence, it's not necessarily that people
think that's right, but they think it's justified. They wouldn't
go do it, but they think it's justified. And they're
captivated by the that somebody is willing to do this,
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willing to pull off his dynamic execution in the middle
of Manhattan during the morning rush hour.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And and that, you know, in and.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Of itself, keeps people sort of on the edge of
their seating.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I can understand they'd have a feeling like, oh, at
least somebody is doing something right, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
It's it's all a lot of it's romantic size obviously,
which is unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, all right, Brad, good to talk with you again.
Thanks very much, You're welcome. Thank you, Brad Garrett, ABC News.
He's the crime and terrorism analyst on Luigi Mangion getting
federal charges. And finally, extrajudded to New York Now the
long awaited Alex Stone coming up in just minutes. The
FAA says they're going to shoot down drones if they
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think any in New Jersey pose a security risk.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's next.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Too much good stuff today. We're putting ten bounds here
in a five pound back. We got Alex Stone on
ABC News because the FAA suddenly is issuing orders to
shoot down deadly force if they see drones that are
up to no good in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Let's talk to Alex. What's this about.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, So this is an FAA order that's now going
into place. It's a wide ban on all drone operations
if they don't have a special government approval to fly,
like police departments and fire departments, but just regular hobbyist
drones in a bunch of New Jersey counties and it's
going to go until January seventeenth. Drones are legal in
most areas from ground level up to four hundred feet,
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and then illegal above four hundred feet. This is going
to make it illegal at all altitudes, so ground to
four hundred as well in those areas. And the thing
is john that they keep seeing these drones.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was a little bit quieter last night and a
little bit quieter the night before, So some of this
is an indication that maybe they are mainly hobbyist drones
out there, and that now that these warnings are going out,
and now that they're saying that they will shoot them
down and you will be arrested, that it may show
if all of a sudden they disappear, that this was
not Iran or not China or not aliens, that these
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were people who were flying these for whatever reason. But
the rules are going to say that that they will
intercept you, detain you, interview you by law enforcement if
you're illegally flying one of these, that you can be
fined thousands of in civil penalties, and that they will
use deadly force against a drone if there is an
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imminent security threat. I don't know what deadly force is.
Throne if there's nobody on board, but it's killed the throner,
they're going to kill the owner. Well, I mean they're
they're saying that they will shoot at that drone. I mean,
I guess it's deadly to the drone in that moment
that they will shoot it down. Well, drones have feelings,
you know, they can hurt that they do, it'll be
nice to them. So what's it's across a number of
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counties here, so nobody can fly any drones. Yeah, it's
a long list of counties around New Jersey where they're saying,
all right, in these counties where they've been spotting a
lot of these and where there are sensitive things like
you know, Bedminster golf course and airports and military installations,
that those are the areas where no drones are going
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to be allowed anywhere around there. And if they see
something flying then they can go after another thing. And
we've talked about it over numerous days. A lot of
these are not drones, and they have been missed identified,
and what they're finding now is a lot of these
are United Airlines planes going into the big United hub
of Newark, New Jersey, where they're coming in and people
who don't typically pay attention to the sky, who now
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are because of everything going on, look up and they go, oh,
look at those blinking lights up there, and they take
a video of it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's fine, he's been around forever. I grew up near
that airport.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That is true, but not a lot of people were
probably paying attention to social media to look toward the
sky and notice everything blinking in the sky. That now
you have a lot of folks who aren't typically doing that.
This is a sergeant on the Drone Detection team. He's
actually with Connecticut State Police. He says, they have found
a lot of these when they go and research them
after they get the report, are actually airplanes.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
They drone at four hundred feet may look the same
as a seven eighty seven at thirty thousand feet.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So they may be higher and people are going, no,
that was a drone. It was only four hundred feet
up there, and they go, no, that's a United aircraft
coming in to Newark. So they've found a lot of that,
but it does seem that there is something else out there,
because they wouldn't have an announcement saying they're going to
shoot everything down. Well, and the reason why we do
know that there are some drones that have been out there,
at least the belief is that they have been out there.
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This is now trying to get those if they are
hobbyists who are flying for whatever reason to scare people
or just because they're they're flying, or they think it's
funny to get them to land. Now, so we'll see
come tonight what the what it looks like. If there's
still six foot drones flying in the sky that people
claim they're seeing, if they're not airplanes, then we know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
There's something else. Could be war. We'll try out maybe
a war tomorrow. Apparently.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
All right, very good, Alex, thank you, you got a
john all right, Alex Stone from Caffeine News and yes,
Cafie News, ABC News, all those organizations.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Huh and you forgot you forgot your sunglasses in here
by the way, and I had to bring them to you,
and we discussed if you had any Biden moments, I
was allowed to bring them up to public.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So you keep doing that, all right. We could do
the whole show on that. Just remember my drop I
have from yesterday. What I'll play it again, just you know,
if we're gonna go to war here now, this thing
can go both ways.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I can't find it. You had it erased.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
We love Penis stories.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
There you go, who said that somebody impersonating you?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
AI could be coming up after Deborah and the news here,
we're going to talk to a listener named Nicole. She
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RV encampment and ply of Vista. Apparently it got moved
from Culver Boulevard and there's drug use out in the open,
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the run around. So she's gonna try us. We're gonna
talk to Nicole and see what this is about. If
you can't get help from Karen Bass, we will help,
all right. We are the shadow government here in the
Los Angeles area.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
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Speaker 8 (33:07):
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that could be a regular segment we'll send We'll do
a show out from one of these disgusting RV camps
and you can go door to door and see what's on.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I get a raise, that's I'll pay myself.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You will to see that. Sure.
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
We continue now with you know.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's gonna be a new legislative session up in that
tox success pool in Sacramento, and one of the new
assembly members is our old friend Carl DeMaio, who runs
Reform California, an activist group that's done a lot of
good work to try to fight all the nonsense that
comes out of Sacramento, and he's now an assemblyman representing
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a district as a Republican in the state Assembly. And
as you know, when you get a new job, join
a new company, they have a training seminar for you.
And he's attended it and written a piece for the
Southern California News Group about it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Carl, how are you, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, did they give you an employee badge or I
guess a security card to get through?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I cannot understand how untethered from reality these folks are.
But when you, you know, start your first day on
the job, they're trying I would say, to brainwash you
or you know, put you in some sort of reprogramming camp.
It's how to be a politician and avoid accountability. That's
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what I would you know, title this training course. They
sit you down and the first thing they do is
they say we're going to go through all the epics rules,
and they walk through ethics rules. You know, you're allowed
to take gifts from lobbyists up to five hundred dollars
a year per person per lobbyists. And I'm like, I
don't know about you, but most people when they get
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a job, they're not told hey, as a new employee,
do you know that people randomly are going to show
up at the office and they're just going to give
you gifts up to five hundred dollars, but you can
only take up to five hundred. They then tell you
how you can get around having to report it. They say,
you know, the lobbyists can buy your dinner every night.
They can serve you alcohol as long as it can
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fit on a small plate, or what they call the
toothpick rule, where you're eating food paid for by lobbyists
and drinking their booze. As long as it's not too much,
you don't have to report it, and as long as
other people are there also getting booze and food. It's
considered a widely attended reception. You get to hit reception
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after reception each night in Sacramento, and you get to
wine and dine at their expense. And I'm sitting back.
I'm literally they thinking, you people are absolutely insane. Buy
your own damn meal every night. That's what the real
people in the world have to do. Your own constituents
have to buy their own meals, and no one's giving
them five hundred dollars per person per year.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So they really go out on these reception tours every night,
picking at small plates of food all evening and drinking.
I guess it's unlimited how much you can drink.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah. No, I One of the Assembly members who's an incumbent,
was briefing the new incoming freshman class. And by the way,
these are by person training classes because they're not talking
policy or politics. They're just talking about how the corrupt
system works. And she said, oh, yeah, I have my
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staff put four or five different receptions on my calendar.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Just loaded up.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I don't care what the receptions are about. I just
show up and get the food. And I'm sitting there
thinking to myself, Oh, if only, if only the voters
could know about this. So then the second thing that
they teach is how to kill popular ideas, how to
kill popular bills with you know, a good policy in
it without voting no, because if you vote know then
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the then I guess the constituents the voters would find
out that you're actually trying to stop something good from happening.
So what they do is they say, here's how you
can kill bills that that are wildly popular. First, the
Democrat leadership that runs the show has something called the
Rules Committee. And the Rules Committee could just decide not
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to refer a popular vote to a committee. But we
know that that makes it really apparent that the leadership
doesn't want something. So what we can do is we
can send it to a committee, and the chairman of
the committee could just decide not to bring the bill up,
not to hold a hearing, not to hold a vote. Well,
sometimes that doesn't work either. So what we do is
you can have a hearing on the bill and some
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of the members that don't give a rip what happens
back home can vote against it. But if you're in
a target seat, you can get up and walk out
and you don't even have to vote, and a bill
could actually die with most people not voting at all.
And then, finally, the dirtiest trick is that you can
actually vote for a bill, but then walk down the
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hallway to another committee called the Appropriations Committee, and you
can tell them behind the closed door, can you please
kill this bill without a vote. So the Appropriations committee
is the last stop, the last trick that they have
to kill a popular bill without voting against it. This
is where any bill that costs any money, and by golly,
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most bills do cost money, can go to the Appropriation Committee.
And what they do is they just simply say, well,
we don't have time to talk about it, so we're
going to just file it away in something called the
suspense file. And that means that no vote has to
be cast against the bill, it dies. And this is
how the lobbyists, the powerful special interests, the corporate interests,
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the union bosses are able to go and stop that
legislation that they don't want that might be very popular
back in the district with the people, but they can
kill it without the politicians being held accountable. This is
the insanity that they work under.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
They explain this at the training session.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes it's called a briefing in the legislative process, and like, no,
this is not a legislative process. This is a let's
screw the voter's process. That's what we should describe this as.
And the final thing that they brought up was that
a lot of things get done through the bureaucracy that
they that they have given unelected bureaucrats massive amounts of
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power to impose taxes too. They call them fees, but
they're really taxes.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
California Resources are.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Born exactly to ban gas powered cars, to to ban
gas powered leaf blowers to ban gas appliances, and so
they talk about how you can say that you're against
something while the bureaucracy just basically makes it happen, and
and and so all of these briefings are done. At
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one point they gave us a budget briefing, and so
the slide that was up there said that the state
budget is quote essentially balanced, And I said, well, what
does the word essentially mean is that like me essentially
paying my rent or essentially paying my college loan. You know,
you either did or did not balance the budget. And
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then they said that the reason why the budget's not
going to be balanced there were in a fiscal crisis
is that the citizens aren't providing enough revenue that there's
a revenue shortfall. Oh, well, aren't and that's a lie. Yeah,
the lie about the revenue shortfall is number one, we
are actually paying more on revenue historically than ever before.
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But secondly, the reason why it's not growing as fast
as they want is they've chased all the good revenue
contributors out of the state. It's called people moving out
of the state, particularly the job base. And finally, the
real problem is they're spending their excessive, wasteful spending, but
none of that was on the slide. So I took
(08:28):
a picture of the slide and I tweeted it out.
Someone ran into the room staff member and tried to
chastise me, saying, you're not allowed to share closed meeting
information or you won't be invited in the future. And
I said, well, guess what you see this pin I
am a member. I'm going to come to your briefing,
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whether you like it or not, because I have a
right to because I'm now elected to this body. But
they don't look kindly on people talking about what happens
behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Have you gotten a response yet to the article that
you wrote in the newspapers?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh, they're furious. I mean, the media has been contacting
me about it because it was posted yesterday yesterday morning,
and we've already had a number of people in the
media asking about it. But my colleagues, yeah, not very happy.
And I don't care. My job is not to make
them happy. My job is to go up there and
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open up the curtains and let the sunlight just come
rolling in because the public deserves to know. And for
Democrats out there and Republicans. I don't care what your
party label is. You should be pissed about this. This
is corruption. This is why we don't get good things.
This is why the system fails us.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, we had Bill A. Saley on yesterday. He was
here in the studio.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And he's one of the good ones, the Republicans from.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The Inland Empire. And I think he used the same
phrase you did, untethered from reality are something.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So no, he's one of the good ones. He's one
of the good ones. We need more like him up there.
But you know, hopefully as more people wake up and
realize that this is a broken system, they may demand change.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Wow, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So this is in the Southern California Newsgroup papers, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So it'll be in all sixteen of their papers.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I've done a podcast on it, and I know some
other media outlets are picking it up. But the more
people realize the corruption and broken nature of this system,
the better. Because these politicians benefit from these tricks. And
when a politician said, oh, yeah, well I didn't vote
against that bill, I'm so sorry it died, you need
to turn them and say, well did you show up
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to the damn hearing you know, had you gone and
gone to the floor and demanded a consideration the bill
on the floor, because there's a lot of ways that
they can get these bills voted on, but they just
choose not to.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Carl, thank you for coming on, and please come on
any time you want as you learn what goes on
in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Thanks so much. Merry Christmas, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Mary Christmas, Carl DeMaio, the Republican Assembly, and from San Diego.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The drone story died down for a couple of days.
I don't know why. I don't know if the number
of drones dropped off. Maybe whoever sent them up into
the sky realized there was a lot of blowbacks. Maybe
the Chinese started thinking that, oh, the Americans have finally
woken up.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Maybe they're you know, they're traveling, it's the holiday season.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The drona maybe the drones right what you know, it'd
be it'd be a great Christmas movie. I thought, Yeah,
Santa sends all these drones in order to map his
route on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
But is he going to start dropping gifts?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, he needed money, but he inadvertently, inadvertently starts this
huge panic and it whips up the whole country and
people start running out, and they got their their ar
fifteen rifles and they're ready to shoot down the drones.
And Assenta doesn't know what to do because he didn't
mean to create a panic and get everybody angry.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Okay, then send money.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, I haven't worked out the rest of the movie yet.
Is there a Rudolph drone? There could be a Rudolph drone? Yeah,
I think there's something there all right. Anyway, Alex Stone
is coming on in a few minutes because there were
two developments in the drone story. One of them is
the FAA has banned drone activity in some areas of
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New Jersey and they warned that they'll use deadly force
against the drones if they think there's a risk.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
How come to that?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Why did they suddenly announce this? For four weeks they
ignored the thing and told us we were all crazy.
Now they're ready to shoot something down, all right. That's
with Alex Stone in a few minutes. I cannot believe this.
This came out late in the show yesterday. Karen Bess,
Deputy Mayor Brian Williams had an FBI raid at his house.
(13:07):
They think he called in a bomb threat against city Hall.
Have you seen this guy? Bow tie guy? As deputy mayor,
guess what? He was in charge of public safety. He
was working on police hiring, public safety spending, and the
(13:28):
search for a new police chief. He's been in government
for decades. He was a deputy mayor when James Han
was running things.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Remember him.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's twenty years ago. He was an assistant city attorney.
He was executive director of the Sheriff's Civilian Oversight Commission.
And right now, not only the police department he was overseeing,
he was overseeing the fire department, the Port Police, and
the airport police.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And they think he called in a bomb threat. The
hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And uh, Karen Bass put him on administrative leave. Does
that mean he still gets paid?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Wow, that's a good way to get some some time off.
You may want to consider that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna call in a bomb throat.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And then a bomb. You have to know how to pronounce.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
It right, and then I'll get paid.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
They'll put you on administration. I think he gets paid.
I I'm not one hundred percent usually.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You do when you're on doesn't say he's suspended or anything.
He's probably got some kind of protections. There's no other
details about the about the investigation.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He denies it, of course he does. Well, that's the
that's one of the details, right.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
If he admitted it, then he loses the pay while
he's on it, and he needs to be on administrative
lead to pay his legal bills.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
The detectives from l a p D's Major Crime Divisions
conducted surveillance that led them to Williams, but because he
has over an oversight role on the lapd UH, they
transferred it to the FBI because it was a conflict
of interest. Williams was described by several people in city
government as a soft spoken presence, someone who has never
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shown anger or impulsive behavior. Those are the guys I
don't trust. I tell you, there are two classes of
people I don't trust. People who are always calm or
people who are always happy in perky.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know, there's darkness like you.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You see me not be happy in perky.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I know, but the other day I know.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But first, at first I just saw you as happy
in Perky all the time, and I thought, oh, no,
there's something going on.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, then you got to really know me. That's right.
It's like, whoa. I didn't think it was that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Peggy Names lives next door in Pasadena, so they got
an actual neighbor and she shocked. He's not capable of that.
It's ridiculous. They must have the wrong Brian Williams. I'm positive. Yeah,
maybe it's the news anchor. Maybe it's that Brian Williams
is calling in bomb threats. They're a wonderful family. They
go to church every Sunday. They're upstanding pillars.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Of the community.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh man, whenever a neighbor uses that word that, I
know somebody's up to no good and we've enjoyed having
them as neighbors for over twenty years. Well, yeah, he
didn't call any bomb threats into your house. I want
to see where that story goes. There has got to
be a juicy one there, all right. When we return
right after Deborah's news, Happy Perky Deborah alex Stone from
(16:33):
ABC about why is now the FAA threatened to shoot
drones down in New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Right, before the news I had told you that we
were going to have Alex Stone on to talk about
why the FAA suddenly wants to shoot down the drones
in New Jersey, and he will come on in about
fifteen minutes. First, we're talking to Brad Garrett from ABC
News to Crime and Terror terrorism analyst, because today was
the day that Luigi Mangeon was transferred to New York
(17:07):
City to face the murder charges for shooting Brian Thompson,
the United Healthcare executive, and there's going to be federal
charges against Mangeon as well. We're going to talk with
Brad Garrett now on how all this is going to work. Brad,
how are you?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm good, John, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I I mean at first, you know, a few days ago,
we thought that mangeone was going to be refusing to
be extraduided for thirty days, and now we find out
there's federal charges coming against him and he's shown up
in New York City. What do you think changed his
mind about waiving the extradition.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Well, there's some belief that his attorneys asked for discovery
documents in advance and maybe they got those. I don't
know the true answer, but there had to be something
to sweeten the pie to get him to waive extradition.
I mean, it would have happened anyway, but he would
have he'd still be in.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Pennsylvania probably for the next X number.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Of weeks until they had a hearing, and then the.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Judge would order him removed.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
And what happened today would happen in probably in January
or so. But you know, the point being, he is
back here the unknown today obviously is I guess even
his attorney is sitting in state court waiting for him
to arrive, and the next thing she apparently knows is
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he's in federal court. So I don't know what happened there.
I mean, obviously the Feds charged him. They must have
worked out something at the last minute with NYPD and
the state prosecutor in New York City, but that's where
he was. So he's in federal custody and so be
in a federal walk up in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Is he going to potentially face two trials for the
same crime at the federal and state LEFTL.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, we'll see how that works out. I mean, I
realized there's.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
People yelling double jeopardy, but the Feds would not have
charged it with that to at least legally to occur.
It may be the type you know, this gets into
the legal wordsmithing of you know what the federal charges.
There's a couple of stalking charges.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
There's a murder charge.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Yeah, and the murder charges obviously based on what happened,
but it's you know, it talks about that he traveled interstate,
which makes it a federal crime. You know, he had
a illegal firearm, et cetera, and he could now potentially
face the death penalty in the federal system, of which
New York I don't believe has So is that another
(19:48):
sort of approach by the prosecutors. Maybe we'll have to
see are.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They going to work in concert with each other, the
federal and the state prosecute. It's going to be a
cooperative investigation.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
I mean, they would have to because the evidence is
the same. And obviously a large chunk of this evidence
was collected by NYPD. So it's a little weird. I mean,
have we done cases where the state, like here in DC,
where the local court has prosecuted somebody and then we
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move them up the street and prosecuted federally. Yes, but
the charges will be different. Now, like I said before,
they're going to argue that the way the federal law
is written, it's not that the jeopardy.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But we'll see. I'm not sure that there's a meriton in.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Prosecutor in price for this force a similar type of crime,
just because it doesn't sound like it's a good use
of time. Right, I mean, it's exactly the same evidence.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I remember, right, the guy who whacked Paul Pelosi with
a hammer in San Francis, let's go, he got charged
federally and yeah, and in the state as well, right.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Right, And again it was it's the type of charges
the Fed's brought. You know, you get into a situation
with the federal charge in that case because obviously Representative
Pelosi is covered by federal law because she's an elected official,
which was also because you know, he admitted that's why
(21:28):
he went to the house was to harm her because
she just wasn't there. So that's the federal hook with him.
The state obviously it's a you know, it's assault with
the deadly weapon, attend to kill. Whatever the charges are,
which is a different bent obviously in the Feds. But
to your point, we'll have to see how this storts
out federal versus state on a murder case.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They certainly have a lot of evidence against him, don't they.
I mean that they collected in Pennsylvania primarily.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Yeah, Pennsylvania. I think that's when they got a notebook.
He had those pages through or full pages hands written,
where you know, he talks about what he's done. And
then in this federal complaint John that just came out
a few hours ago, you know, he makes makes comments
like you know, only a month and a half to
go before the investor's conference, and they write, this is
(22:18):
a true windfall.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I mean you really have to look at the words.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
He uses in in how he is so clear in
his mind that this has to be done. I mean
using terms like whacking the CEO again his words, and
it's all like it's it's much similar to like people
who have been radicalized that that are true believers, believers
in whatever they're true believing, you know, whether those prices
(22:45):
or archaia or whatever. But you know, obviously this he's
a true believer in that the healthier system is needed
to be taken omen and that you know, he even
glows a little bit about it. You know, he was
willing to pay the price to do that, so he
has I mean basically with his wife. I'll be shocked
if he doesn't end up with life without parole at
(23:05):
the very least.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But we'll see. It's it's you know, it is the
case that has such an abundance of evidence.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
You've got you've got DNA and I think, and you've
got fingerprints. He left that stuff at the scene, you know,
the water bottle and I think a candy wrapper or
some sort of rapper. They got genetic material I think
off of both of those, or one of them at least.
And the weapon matches the one that was on his
person in Altoona, Pennsylvania is the weapon that killed Brian Thompson.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I keep hearing legal people raving about his defense attorney,
uh and I'm thinking she may be the greatest attorney ever.
But exactly what can the defense be Since we all
saw it on video, what happened, and all the evidence
you just discussed, what what are they going to say?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Well, it's a good point.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
I mean, looking at it as an outsider and being
involved in a lot of murder cases, I would say,
generally speaking, you know, you have two avenues when the
evidence is this good and one is insanity, which I
don't think based somewhat little I know, that would work.
Or you go after the process, in other words, that
(24:23):
the evidence wasn't collected, processed, or stored correctly. Now, assuming
that was done correctly, that's not going to get you
anywhere either. My guess is she's also going to argue
in state and federal court to what you and I
were talking about a few minutes ago. Is this double
jeopardy And we'll see about that. So the point is
(24:43):
there's some there are legal things she can do that
will that will spread this out for a while.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm sure you saw the polly I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm sure you saw the poll the other day that
of people under thirty thought it was accept the bull
that that the healthcare executive gets murdered. Right, Yeah, Could
you go for a long shot for jury nullification or
a hung jury if you get the right jury mix
(25:11):
of sympathetic people who think this is a message to
the healthcare industry that had to be sent.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Well, you certainly are going to have to be careful
about what questions are asked and how thoroughly you sort
of vet people to your point, that's exactly right, and
you'll have a judge that will jump in and make
comments about that. You know, people are you know, person
access is too biased to sit on a jury based
(25:38):
on what they just told us. That will potentially take
a while. I mean, there's an interesting thing, John, when
you look at why people are so attracted to this
kind of case. You know, three things according to the.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Experts to study this stuff is the following.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
If you have an attractive defendant, you know, like this kid,
or like Scott Peterson or like Ted Bundy, there's there
that's part of the attraction. And then you add to it. Now,
the first two don't work for Bundy or Peterson, but
they work for Mangeone is that there's a cause.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
In other words, he's.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Going after the healthcare industry like you just described, and
people are empathetic to that. And the third is violence.
That because he used violence, it's not necessarily that people
think that's right, but they think it's justified. They wouldn't
go do it, but they think it's justified. And they're
captivated by the that somebody is willing to do this,
(26:37):
willing to pull off his dynamic execution in the middle
of Manhattan during the morning rush hour.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
And and that, you know, in and.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Of itself, keeps people sort of on the edge of
their seating.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I can understand they'd have a feeling like, oh, at
least somebody is doing something right, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
It's it's all a lot of it's romantic size obviously,
which is unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, all right, Brad, good to talk with you again.
Thanks very much, You're welcome. Thank you, Brad Garrett, ABC News.
He's the crime and terrorism analyst on Luigi Mangion getting
federal charges. And finally, extrajudded to New York Now the
long awaited Alex Stone coming up in just minutes. The
FAA says they're going to shoot down drones if they
(27:22):
think any in New Jersey pose a security risk.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's next.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (27:33):
Too much good stuff today. We're putting ten bounds here
in a five pound back. We got Alex Stone on
ABC News because the FAA suddenly is issuing orders to
shoot down deadly force if they see drones that are
up to no good in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Let's talk to Alex. What's this about.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, So this is an FAA order that's now going
into place. It's a wide ban on all drone operations
if they don't have a special government approval to fly,
like police departments and fire departments, but just regular hobbyist
drones in a bunch of New Jersey counties and it's
going to go until January seventeenth. Drones are legal in
most areas from ground level up to four hundred feet,
(28:13):
and then illegal above four hundred feet. This is going
to make it illegal at all altitudes, so ground to
four hundred as well in those areas. And the thing
is john that they keep seeing these drones.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was a little bit quieter last night and a
little bit quieter the night before, So some of this
is an indication that maybe they are mainly hobbyist drones
out there, and that now that these warnings are going out,
and now that they're saying that they will shoot them
down and you will be arrested, that it may show
if all of a sudden they disappear, that this was
not Iran or not China or not aliens, that these
(28:47):
were people who were flying these for whatever reason. But
the rules are going to say that that they will
intercept you, detain you, interview you by law enforcement if
you're illegally flying one of these, that you can be
fined thousands of in civil penalties, and that they will
use deadly force against a drone if there is an
(29:07):
imminent security threat. I don't know what deadly force is.
Throne if there's nobody on board, but it's killed the throner,
they're going to kill the owner. Well, I mean they're
they're saying that they will shoot at that drone. I mean,
I guess it's deadly to the drone in that moment
that they will shoot it down. Well, drones have feelings,
you know, they can hurt that they do, it'll be
nice to them. So what's it's across a number of
(29:28):
counties here, so nobody can fly any drones. Yeah, it's
a long list of counties around New Jersey where they're saying,
all right, in these counties where they've been spotting a
lot of these and where there are sensitive things like
you know, Bedminster golf course and airports and military installations,
that those are the areas where no drones are going
(29:50):
to be allowed anywhere around there. And if they see
something flying then they can go after another thing. And
we've talked about it over numerous days. A lot of
these are not drones, and they have been missed identified,
and what they're finding now is a lot of these
are United Airlines planes going into the big United hub
of Newark, New Jersey, where they're coming in and people
who don't typically pay attention to the sky, who now
(30:11):
are because of everything going on, look up and they go, oh,
look at those blinking lights up there, and they take
a video of it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's fine, he's been around forever. I grew up near
that airport.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That is true, but not a lot of people were
probably paying attention to social media to look toward the
sky and notice everything blinking in the sky. That now
you have a lot of folks who aren't typically doing that.
This is a sergeant on the Drone Detection team. He's
actually with Connecticut State Police. He says, they have found
a lot of these when they go and research them
after they get the report, are actually airplanes.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
They drone at four hundred feet may look the same
as a seven eighty seven at thirty thousand feet.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So they may be higher and people are going, no,
that was a drone. It was only four hundred feet
up there, and they go, no, that's a United aircraft
coming in to Newark. So they've found a lot of that,
but it does seem that there is something else out there,
because they wouldn't have an announcement saying they're going to
shoot everything down. Well, and the reason why we do
know that there are some drones that have been out there,
at least the belief is that they have been out there.
(31:07):
This is now trying to get those if they are
hobbyists who are flying for whatever reason to scare people
or just because they're they're flying, or they think it's
funny to get them to land. Now, so we'll see
come tonight what the what it looks like. If there's
still six foot drones flying in the sky that people
claim they're seeing, if they're not airplanes, then we know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
There's something else. Could be war. We'll try out maybe
a war tomorrow. Apparently.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
All right, very good, Alex, thank you, you got a
john all right, Alex Stone from Caffeine News and yes,
Cafie News, ABC News, all those organizations.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Huh and you forgot you forgot your sunglasses in here
by the way, and I had to bring them to you,
and we discussed if you had any Biden moments, I
was allowed to bring them up to public.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So you keep doing that, all right. We could do
the whole show on that. Just remember my drop I
have from yesterday. What I'll play it again, just you know,
if we're gonna go to war here now, this thing
can go both ways.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I can't find it. You had it erased.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
We love Penis stories.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
There you go, who said that somebody impersonating you?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
AI could be coming up after Deborah and the news here,
we're going to talk to a listener named Nicole. She
wrote to us about what she describes as a disgusting
RV encampment and ply of Vista. Apparently it got moved
from Culver Boulevard and there's drug use out in the open,
(32:48):
and they've been calling the city and LAPD and getting
the run around. So she's gonna try us. We're gonna
talk to Nicole and see what this is about. If
you can't get help from Karen Bass, we will help,
all right. We are the shadow government here in the
Los Angeles area.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Don't go knocking on the doors of the r V.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
That's right, Yeah, that's right. You're already trained to Doday. Oh,
that could be a regular segment we'll send We'll do
a show out from one of these disgusting RV camps
and you can go door to door and see what's on.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I get a raise, that's I'll pay myself.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You will to see that. Sure.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
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