January 29, 2025 • 28 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (01/29) - Former State Guard Commanding General Jay Coggan comes on the show to talk about Gov. Newsom getting rid of a volunteer firefighter program in early 2024. More on what Palisades and Eaton Fire victims are going through. More on the faulty emergency notification system in LA County.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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four it gets posted. Among the stories that are leaking
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out now several weeks after the fires started, was and
because they're looking to see just how bad was the
response and how bad was the preparation by not only
Karen Bass and the city of la but also Gavin Newsom.
The public, however, they get their news. However you might
think the news was slanted, they got the message. Only
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thirty percent of California citizens approve of Gavin Newsom's handling
of the fires, and only thirty seven percent and approve
here in Los Angeles of Karen Bass's work in managing
the fires. So most of the public realized that these
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two really struck out. Although to strike out you have
to take a swing to begin with, and the Karen
Bass was missing in action. She wasn't even there to
take the field One of the stories that popped out
about Newsom was that there was a and I had
never heard of this, there was a highly trained, all
volunteer team of certified firefighters that was created in twenty twenty.
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It was called Team Blaze. It was an on call
strike force staffed entirely with certified firefighters of the California
State Guard. That's a volunteer militia force that reports to
Governor Newsom. I didn't know Newsom had his own militia
that reported to him and they were trained to be firefighters.
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And then Newsom disbanded Team Blaze in January. We're with
twenty twenty four, a year ago before the Pals States fire.
We're going to talk now with Jay Coggan, former State
Guard commanding General, to talk about the disbanding and what
role they could have played in fighting this fire. Jay,
how are you hi.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
John, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'm doing all right. I never heard of this. This
was started during Newsom's administration five years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, well, the State Guard has been around a long time.
In Second World War Two there were seventy three thousand numbers.
When the National Guard is away or busy, somebody has
to protect California, and that is it's State Guard, and
the State Guard has been around a long time. There
are volunteers. They don't get paid to train. They can
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do get paid when they're out on the fire line
like anybody, but they're able to train all year round, weekend,
week out, month in, month out, whereas the National Guard,
with the exception of Team Task Force RAYL. Snake, is
trained for war fighting by the federal government. They're paid
with federal money to train to go to war, not
to protect California. And what ended up happening is there
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was this policy decision to scale back and downsize the
State Guards capabilities. Now it's all hazard, it's not just firefighting.
We were cross training with the Coastguard to do water rescues,
tsunamis and flooding, which as you know, California's got four seasons.
We just saw a part of it. They got fire
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that it burns it off, and you get drought and
then you get mudslides and it goes one after the other,
and so it was prepared to do it was everybody
in the State Guard that was operational was fully certified,
whether we're search and rescue, whether it's operating fire engines,
whether it was putting out fires, whether it's security forces.
Many are currently serving police officers and fire chiefs or
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retired fire chiefs and retired military. It's a tremendous amazing
have you and.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You guys had been called out. You guys had been
called out for various disasters over the years.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh yeah, many of us went out during the Dischi fire,
which was California's largest. Uh. And that was right after
it got started, and it was building itself up and
growing and training and getting certified nationally certified to CalFire standards.
And for some reason, uh, it was sent by the wayside.
And in fact, what it did get, interestingly enough, was
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five fire engines, uh type six fire engines from cal
Office of Emergency Services a few years ago. Specifically, would
have been very valuable during the La fires.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh my god. Yeah, because all our fire engines are
busted and in the shop.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. And these were small enough to carry water and
personnel up the winding roads above the hills, and they're
all sitting fallow now. They were they were sent back
to the state. All the people that were trying to
operate them, Bye bye, they're gone.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And and it was a volunteer force, so the costs
were minimal to keep this, to keep this group in together.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So that's what a secondly cost the state nothing. In fact,
what happened is we formed a foundation of five oh
one c three charity run by some very very successful
people in California and raised one hundreds of thousands of dollars.
In fact, while these volunteers were training, the foundation had
to buy them lunch. The state wouldn't even do it.
In fact, the state, on their basis, charged them for
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their lunches. Well wow for free?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, all the money we'd blow on so much
nonsense in this state, and they wouldn't buy you guys
a lunch.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, And they were traveling on their own dime to
these facilities, to the military bases in California and wouldn't
get fed. Is that something? We had to buy them
their tools and their their masks. All the equipment was
bought by charities. And that foundation has now gone because
the decision was made we will accept no more money
from them.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And and what what what was the reason is this
Newsom's decision or is this some commission? Why did they
decide to disband you guys well, well, the.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
State Guard itself is not disbanded, but but the regional Yeah,
I would say it's a policy decision from the new
commander of the of the Military Department himself, General Matt Beavers,
who decided that his primary mission was to support the
war fighting Federal missional Mission and National Garden. I guess
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to be damned through California and Newsom appointed him. It's
a cabinet position and uh, my perception of Newsomb Seraly
must be aware of what his cabinet member must be doing,
and it's just the decision was made, We're not going
to do this. Well, there was no reason. It wasn't
costing him a penny, not a penny.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What kind of effect do you think you could have had,
especially in the in the.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Early kind of been out the door? First perfect example
is we have fully trained tach two hand crews already
ready to go during the day. The reason we set
it up was years ago. Cal Fire used to almost say,
why do we have to reinvent the wheel? Because every
year there's a fire that the regular National Guard troops
they're amazing, amazing men and women, but that's not their job.
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They're not a job is not firefighting, and so they'd
be brought to Camp Roberts and they spent five days training.
So it knew some sense. I'm calling up the National Guard.
A large portion of the several hundred were five days
before they're even ready to go to fire. How many
houses were lost during those five days? How many lives
were put in jeopardy during this fight for those five days. So,
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I mean, I don't know what to tell you. It
just it makes no sense. I mean, if the governor
in the state ever took the time and took a
look at this, they could have an all hazards, all
volunteer firefighting, cyber protection team, flood response, any kind of response.
There's so many people in California that want to put
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a uniform on be part of the military department. Many
of them are former service member, want to serve again.
Many of them are people that didn't get a chance
to serve while they're raising families and now get to
and they're in the State Guard, in the National Guard
part of the way and command Patrol, the governor are equal.
Why would not I'll.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Ask you something before I got to go for doing newscaster.
What do you think explains the negligence on the part
of Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom other officials. You see when
the firefighters and or you know, people like your particular groups,
when you're allowed to go out there, you do miraculous stuff,
incredibly courageous, incredibly hard working and effective. Why why were
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they so reluctant to be prepared to pre deploy to
just manage things competently. What's gone wrong?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, one of the reasons, it's all about the benjamins.
There's some misallocation of resources, the determination to spend money
in areas active rather than protective. There's no reason why
we can't repurpose funds within California and treat it as
a way to stop a problem instead of spending more
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money every time the problem ever starts. It's answering to
all the people that have all the needs, but they
never think about what's going to happen when the disaster strikes.
And that's common. It always happens, whether it's flooding, whether
it's fires, civil unrest, it doesn't matter. People don't think
about what they need in advance. It's just the problem
we have.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's weird to me because they're always lecturing the public
to be prepared, to be ready for all the various disasters,
and then we look at the state and the state
is flat footed time and time again.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, that's a great way of put it off on
the people. In other words, we're not going to protect
you. You got to take care of yourself, is what it
sounds like the way you put it. And I don't
disagree kind of.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, I've thought that for a long time, is that
ultimately the government is not going to protect you, and
you are out there on your own and you've got
to do everything you can inside your own house with
your family to protect yourself or to escape because forget
about it. But this was a total breakdown, Oh tell total.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And I would hope that your listeners more and more
get in touch with their representatives and say, what's with
the State Guard? And why isn't it there? Why are
we spending money that we don't have to. Why don't
we take these very high qualified people. The trains are
free all year round, they're ready to go out the door,
like U shots, that's amazing. Do we do that? And
then why don't I join? I mean, you think what
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would be with forty million people? You can get thousands
of very qual qualified people, but they don't even know
about it. The state does nothing to publicize the availability
of this organization to function.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
All right, Jake, thanks for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No my pleasure. Thanks Jeth for having.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Jake Coger with the State Guard.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We just said, Jake, I had never heard of this
California State Guard, which apparently is a volunteer militia force.
And they within the militia force, they had a firefighting
group called Team Blaze, and they had equipment, they had
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firefighters very well trained, and Newsome disbanded them a year ago,
and they could have been used and they could be
very helpful in the in the early hours and days
of the fire. And this is just another one of
these small decisions that people weren't aware of at the time,
and now the news leaks out little by little. I mean,
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this story ended up came out in the Washington Free Beacon,
so hardly anybody in LA is aware of this story.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
But you know what's so weird about this is that
they don't get paid unless they're fighting a fire or
they're dealing with a disaster. So it's not like they're
costing the state any money until there's a disaster, right,
So it's definitely not a financial thing.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I don't. This is just inexplicable. But there's so
many inexplicable decisions that added up to this disaster. And
I'm telling this, the secondary disaster of this was the
response and the preparation from all levels of government. And
this State Guard being it's firefighting unit being disbanded is
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just is just another example of it. And there's a
story it was in the La Daily News. It's just
I really feel for the people in Altadena and Palisades
because now they're looking at endless months and years of
going through the grind of dealing with the government, bureaucracy
and dealing with I just like, there's this long snake.
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There was apparently long long string of cars along pch
snaking for two to three miles, and it was it
was residents of the Palisades inching their way into parking
lot number three in Santa Monica, where they had to
show ID to get them a permit so they could
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drive into the burn zone. You had to spend hours
three miles that's the best they could do.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
They've had plenty of time, plenty of time to figure
out a process that would make people happy, and it
wouldn't it wouldn't be this long.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Why would you arrange it? And I don't know who's
in charge of this, why would you arrange it that
there's only one place to get the permit so they
you'd have a three mile line.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, that's the thing we were told, right that we're
going to cut down on the red tape. There's going
to be very little red tape. We're going to make
the process as easy as possible.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
But this isn't easy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, couldn't you go to something like the Dodger
Stadium parking lot? Remember during COVID.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yes, with the vaccine, with the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And they used a whole parking lot in order to
facilitate as many people as possible. And that's when they
were trying to vaccinate the whole county.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Right, or have a few different places, numerous places to
be able to do this.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, why would you pick one? Maybe they had another
parking lot, but this one ended up with a three
mile traffic jam. Why is it diplomat. Why is it
that these bureaucrats do everything badly, consistently badly, and everything
is a torture. Haven't these people gone through enough? And
it's only three weeks in.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I would think that when you have a crisis like this,
you know what you give in.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You have to be.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Able to be flexible, and you have to be able
to change things. And maybe everything isn't exactly how you
I'm talking about the bureaucrats how you wanted to go.
But I mean, at a time like this, let the
people go back to their homes or what was their
home and let them see it. And enough with the
waiting and the these long lines.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I mean, you're right, these people have gone through enough.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And then they talk about some of the people who
they were dressed up dress up head to toe and
protective gear, you know, have suits, and they go through
the sad rubble of their home. They looked at the
Kadeshian family. The mother is Kim Kadeshian.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Not Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, this is the Kadeshians. They have less money and
and mom and grandma and one of the kids, Paul,
he's taking an entire quarter off from college to deal
with the fire, and he said, I thought we were
gonna have to be like gold miners with a pan
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sifting through the ash. The home wasn't completely destroyed, but
there weren't many items left, and he you know, they
just grabbed a some silverware, melted down jewelry, a couple
of antis, partially melted typewriters. Yeah, so sad, it's you know,
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And he said, after a while he goes the things
and stuff I was hoping survived. I'm kind of hoping
now that they didn't because they would be unsalvageable. Like
he doesn't want to see things melted down and ruined.
He'd rather have just be gone.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
How many people, I'm very curious or a percentage of
people are going to decide, you know what, screw this.
We're not going to wait eighteen months to.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Have the debris removed. We're just going to move somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's another thing I read. It is going to be
eighteen months. Yeah, the EPA said, because because when when
when Trump was saying, hey, it's going to be eighteen months,
I'm told bast was saying, no, no, it's not going
to be eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Months, and then how long is it going to be?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
She was lying there. She was lying there because it
was federal employees were telling the residents that it's going
to be eighteen months to the cleanup, and she just
outright lied. I know that that should be streamlined. We
got to take a break.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We're on from one in some four and after four o'clock.
Whatever you missed John Cobelt' show on demand on the
iHeart app. We've been discussing the fire, and boy, you
people in the Palisades, if you're listening, I know what
one of your worst fears is that they're going to
force affordable housing into the Palisades. And you may see
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officials saying no, no, no, that's not going to happen. Well,
there's pressure coming from these idiot housing advocates to do
exactly that. Gavin Newsom had signed a bill, Senate Bill
three thirty and it requires affordable housing. There's a second
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bill called the Density Bonus Law, which encourages developers to
build new units of affordable house apartment buildings. And the
whole plan was to force cheap housing into wealthy areas
in the name of equity.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know, I can't afford to live in the Palisades,
and my dream was always to live in Malibu, not
that I'd want to live there now, but you can't
afford it, So therefore I live in the San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You would have been out of Balibu by now.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
It's no longer my dream. Yes, I'm sad to say
my wife.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Had that dream too. The dream has been revised, I know.
See this one I don't understand is like, why is
it so hard? This is progressive lunatics again. Why is
it so hard to accept that there are things in
life you're never going to have because you're never going
to make enough money. We all have that. Even billionaires
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are jealous of one another.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, there's always somebody that's going to make more money
than somebody.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I have read that. The wealthy guys who have the
Gulf Stream private jets. Yeah, they get headitive over who's
got the biggest jet or the most modern jet, and
sometimes a guy taps out at the mid size jet
and then they run into somebody who's got the super jet.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Can you imagine having that problem.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, that's what I want. I want to feel insecure
because my private jet is smaller.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
My jet is smaller than your jet.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But it's that's the way it is. There is no way.
I don't know. I don't know if there's maybe an
Arab oil baron who has more money than Elon Musk's.
I mean, I don't know if Musk is absolutely the
richest person in the world. Who cares? I know, but people,
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it makes me crazy. And it's these progressives who are
constantly babbling about equity. There's no reason to stick poor
people in the palisades.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You need just to build the palisades the way the palisades.
I mean, that's just right.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, the people that lost their homes, let them rebuild,
have the shopping center and the restaurants, and just keep
everything the same.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's wrong to do this, and La County officials want
to waive state housing laws, and there is blowback because
Amy Bodek is the head of the county Planning Department,
and she said she thinks state laws could end up
hampering the recovery because homeowners want to rebuild what they had,
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and these laws incentivize developers to create density, which is
a code word for apartment buildings and affordable apartment buildings,
which is that's not the way the people in the
Palace Sades want to live. I'm going to be blunt here.
When you make some money, you want to live with
your own kind and you don't want to live with
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people of different classes. You just don't. And that's just
a universal human truth.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But it's also again the people that live in the
Palisades no fault of their own. They lose their homes,
they lose their community. They want to rebuild, and they
want it back the same They loved living in the Palisades,
and I'm sure many of them want it back.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
There's a actually, shouldn't be an opportunity to change that.
They shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
They had this meeting and at the meeting, housing advocates
contended that the county's waiver would slash too many restrictions
bypassing laws. The laws are supposed to solve the affordable
housing crisis. You're not going to solve the affordable housing
crisis by taking a burned out fire area and forcing
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people to build apartment buildings. What everyone wants to live
in a single family home neighborhood, and that happened.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But John, what happened.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
If there wasn't the fire right, you weren't going to
You weren't going to have affordable housing in the Palisades.
It's only because of a tragedy that you're trying to change.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yes, they're trying to take advantage of it. Oh, they're
very excited, which is what was predicted. Nolan Gray is
senior director of legislation and Research for some whack job
group called California Yimby. You've heard of Nimby. No in
my backyard. This is yes in my backyard, but it's
yes in somebody else's backyard, not Nolan Gray's backyard. Well,
this is just going in the wrong direction. There's so
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much in here that has nothing to do with helping
people rebuild. He is for he's for these laws that
are going to construct thousands of affordable units. All those
people should move to another state, go to another city,
another state. California is not the place for you if
you can't earn enough to live here.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
But also the people that want to move back, they
want to rebuild in the Palisades. This is going to
make them not And then they have to figure out
places to go.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So it's penal it's just not fair.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He says. If the Oh, here's another law professor at
UC Davis, Chris Elmendorf. He says, if the goal is
to get people back in their communities as fast as possible,
shouldn't the goal be to build as much housing in
these communities as fast as possible. No, because the people
in these communities don't want to live in apartments, and
they don't want to live in affordable housing.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Apartments well, because they don't need to see.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Affordable housing is a fancy word, you know, to give
give homes to poor people, and then you have all
kinds of class problems. You have people live vastly different
lifestyles that don't mix well together.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So there's not going to be an incentive for people
in the people who lived in the Palisades to want
to rebuild there.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, because it's not you know.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Which is what these housing active advocates want.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
But then it's not fair to those people because where
are they going to go.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They don't care about fair, they're looking for equity. They
want just as many poor people to live in a
place like the Palisades as wealthy people. They don't think
wealthy people should have a lock on beautiful views.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
But again, I can't afford to have that beautiful view.
And you know, maybe I did something wrong in my life.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I don't know, but we could go through that one.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
That's true, but you know I can't, and I've.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Accepted to just accept that. Everybody. I don't know people
like this. It's only these progressive advocates who talk like this,
the idea that you're not supposed to accept the limitations
of your abilities, of your accomplishments, of your talents. It's just,
you know, we're not all created a week. Well, we're
not all the talents in the world are distributed equitably.
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That's not the way it works. Not all of us
have the same look. I grew up in lower middle class.
My parents had no money. My dad made eleven thousand
dollars a year. You know, I've worked in incredibly hard
for decades, and I got some activists. Adiot who wants
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to put up an apartment complex across It's not fair.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It isn't fair. That's not being equitable.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It's like a penalty. It's like you're a penalty for
being success tesful. What a weird, sick, psycho culture we have.
And I saw this and it just made me crazy
because I know the people in Palisades are afraid of this,
because Newsom and these bullies in the California Legislator had
written these series of laws, and are they are salivating thinking, Wow,
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this is a great chance to make the Palisades equitable.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
That's taking advantage of a terrible situation.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It is more coming up.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Forty Conway, coming up in a few minutes. One of
the other big foul ups was in La County. The
emergency notification system over this a couple of times, right,
fake phony, false notifications claiming you have to evacuate, And
that happened several times. That happened like about half a
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dozen times, I think.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well, the biggest one was that West Hills fire that
broke out and it was only for people in the
West Hills area, and then I don't know how many people, like.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The whole county was tall to where are we all
going to go?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, the Alley County Board of Supervisor's emotion to have
an independent review of this system. Who was supervising this
all these years leading up to that moment. They're going
to do a review now and an investigation now of
all the screw ups, you know, the not being prepared
for the fire in the Palisades.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Right, Well, we haven't heard from that person, no.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I but.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
These people work on this stuff for years and years,
and then they assure us that everything's in place, and
if something happens, you'll see how it works.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, do they ever do dry runs? You know where
it's not going to go? I mean, seriously, how do
they How do they check these things?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I don't know. I don't remember ever getting an evacuation
test order, but.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I think I think we Well, but then that would
scare people, and you can't do that now because everybody'd.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Be freaked out.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're gonna have a system, you got it, you got
to tell I know, you have.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
To figure out a way to test it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah. So, I mean, and the story goes through the
whole list, but we've lived through the whole list. Uh,
Conway has arrived. How are you hey?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Now?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Hey, now you guys sound great. It's the new John
and Ken.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I'm just visiting today having fun, is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
He he loved.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Having me Tim, he did really right, John Oh, I
asked for it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
What what's going on? Is that right? Yeah? You with
a blooper show, you have you have partners every two days,
that's right, all kinds of people wandering and off the street.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I have partner. I have partners every day. Some on
the air too. Yeah, right, all right. Alex Stone is
coming on with us. I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Patrick O'Neill.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
He does the King's Game and he his uh he
had a house in Malibu that is still on fire,
like a couple of days ago, I mean right on
the beach there. And so we'll we'll chat with him. Also,
doctor Ray kas Sherry's coming on with us. That guy's great.
He'll talk about the air quality and all the crazy's
going on. And then Tula Sharp, who's with the mo
(28:02):
Kelly show. He's doing I'm involved with some kind of
charity event. Will give them a little love. And then
Trump is in the news.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
How about that is he? Yeah? He is? That's right,
all right. I guess the head of the FDA.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I was told to get out and she said, I'm
not going, and they said, is.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That right you are? Yeah, there's no upside to say
no right now. They escorted her out seriously.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, all right, that's starting up crap in a box.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Conway's next. Dey. Thank you, thank you for having me
and Carzier live in the twenty four hour newsroom. Hey,
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four it gets posted. Among the stories that are leaking
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out now several weeks after the fires started, was and
because they're looking to see just how bad was the
response and how bad was the preparation by not only
Karen Bass and the city of la but also Gavin Newsom.
The public, however, they get their news. However you might
think the news was slanted, they got the message. Only
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thirty percent of California citizens approve of Gavin Newsom's handling
of the fires, and only thirty seven percent and approve
here in Los Angeles of Karen Bass's work in managing
the fires. So most of the public realized that these
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two really struck out. Although to strike out you have
to take a swing to begin with, and the Karen
Bass was missing in action. She wasn't even there to
take the field One of the stories that popped out
about Newsom was that there was a and I had
never heard of this, there was a highly trained, all
volunteer team of certified firefighters that was created in twenty twenty.
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It was called Team Blaze. It was an on call
strike force staffed entirely with certified firefighters of the California
State Guard. That's a volunteer militia force that reports to
Governor Newsom. I didn't know Newsom had his own militia
that reported to him and they were trained to be firefighters.
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And then Newsom disbanded Team Blaze in January. We're with
twenty twenty four, a year ago before the Pals States fire.
We're going to talk now with Jay Coggan, former State
Guard commanding General, to talk about the disbanding and what
role they could have played in fighting this fire. Jay,
how are you hi.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
John, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'm doing all right. I never heard of this. This
was started during Newsom's administration five years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, well, the State Guard has been around a long time.
In Second World War Two there were seventy three thousand numbers.
When the National Guard is away or busy, somebody has
to protect California, and that is it's State Guard, and
the State Guard has been around a long time. There
are volunteers. They don't get paid to train. They can
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do get paid when they're out on the fire line
like anybody, but they're able to train all year round, weekend,
week out, month in, month out, whereas the National Guard,
with the exception of Team Task Force RAYL. Snake, is
trained for war fighting by the federal government. They're paid
with federal money to train to go to war, not
to protect California. And what ended up happening is there
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was this policy decision to scale back and downsize the
State Guards capabilities. Now it's all hazard, it's not just firefighting.
We were cross training with the Coastguard to do water rescues,
tsunamis and flooding, which as you know, California's got four seasons.
We just saw a part of it. They got fire
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that it burns it off, and you get drought and
then you get mudslides and it goes one after the other,
and so it was prepared to do it was everybody
in the State Guard that was operational was fully certified,
whether we're search and rescue, whether it's operating fire engines,
whether it was putting out fires, whether it's security forces.
Many are currently serving police officers and fire chiefs or
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retired fire chiefs and retired military. It's a tremendous amazing
have you and.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You guys had been called out. You guys had been
called out for various disasters over the years.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh yeah, many of us went out during the Dischi fire,
which was California's largest. Uh. And that was right after
it got started, and it was building itself up and
growing and training and getting certified nationally certified to CalFire standards.
And for some reason, uh, it was sent by the wayside.
And in fact, what it did get, interestingly enough, was
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five fire engines, uh type six fire engines from cal
Office of Emergency Services a few years ago. Specifically, would
have been very valuable during the La fires.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh my god. Yeah, because all our fire engines are
busted and in the shop.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. And these were small enough to carry water and
personnel up the winding roads above the hills, and they're
all sitting fallow now. They were they were sent back
to the state. All the people that were trying to
operate them, Bye bye, they're gone.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And and it was a volunteer force, so the costs
were minimal to keep this, to keep this group in together.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So that's what a secondly cost the state nothing. In fact,
what happened is we formed a foundation of five oh
one c three charity run by some very very successful
people in California and raised one hundreds of thousands of dollars.
In fact, while these volunteers were training, the foundation had
to buy them lunch. The state wouldn't even do it.
In fact, the state, on their basis, charged them for
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their lunches. Well wow for free?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, all the money we'd blow on so much
nonsense in this state, and they wouldn't buy you guys
a lunch.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, And they were traveling on their own dime to
these facilities, to the military bases in California and wouldn't
get fed. Is that something? We had to buy them
their tools and their their masks. All the equipment was
bought by charities. And that foundation has now gone because
the decision was made we will accept no more money
from them.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And and what what what was the reason is this
Newsom's decision or is this some commission? Why did they
decide to disband you guys well, well, the.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
State Guard itself is not disbanded, but but the regional Yeah,
I would say it's a policy decision from the new
commander of the of the Military Department himself, General Matt Beavers,
who decided that his primary mission was to support the
war fighting Federal missional Mission and National Garden. I guess
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to be damned through California and Newsom appointed him. It's
a cabinet position and uh, my perception of Newsomb Seraly
must be aware of what his cabinet member must be doing,
and it's just the decision was made, We're not going
to do this. Well, there was no reason. It wasn't
costing him a penny, not a penny.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What kind of effect do you think you could have had,
especially in the in the.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Early kind of been out the door? First perfect example
is we have fully trained tach two hand crews already
ready to go during the day. The reason we set
it up was years ago. Cal Fire used to almost say,
why do we have to reinvent the wheel? Because every
year there's a fire that the regular National Guard troops
they're amazing, amazing men and women, but that's not their job.
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They're not a job is not firefighting, and so they'd
be brought to Camp Roberts and they spent five days training.
So it knew some sense. I'm calling up the National Guard.
A large portion of the several hundred were five days
before they're even ready to go to fire. How many
houses were lost during those five days? How many lives
were put in jeopardy during this fight for those five days. So,
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I mean, I don't know what to tell you. It
just it makes no sense. I mean, if the governor
in the state ever took the time and took a
look at this, they could have an all hazards, all
volunteer firefighting, cyber protection team, flood response, any kind of response.
There's so many people in California that want to put
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a uniform on be part of the military department. Many
of them are former service member, want to serve again.
Many of them are people that didn't get a chance
to serve while they're raising families and now get to
and they're in the State Guard, in the National Guard
part of the way and command Patrol, the governor are equal.
Why would not I'll.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Ask you something before I got to go for doing newscaster.
What do you think explains the negligence on the part
of Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom other officials. You see when
the firefighters and or you know, people like your particular groups,
when you're allowed to go out there, you do miraculous stuff,
incredibly courageous, incredibly hard working and effective. Why why were
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they so reluctant to be prepared to pre deploy to
just manage things competently. What's gone wrong?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, one of the reasons, it's all about the benjamins.
There's some misallocation of resources, the determination to spend money
in areas active rather than protective. There's no reason why
we can't repurpose funds within California and treat it as
a way to stop a problem instead of spending more
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money every time the problem ever starts. It's answering to
all the people that have all the needs, but they
never think about what's going to happen when the disaster strikes.
And that's common. It always happens, whether it's flooding, whether
it's fires, civil unrest, it doesn't matter. People don't think
about what they need in advance. It's just the problem
we have.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's weird to me because they're always lecturing the public
to be prepared, to be ready for all the various disasters,
and then we look at the state and the state
is flat footed time and time again.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, that's a great way of put it off on
the people. In other words, we're not going to protect
you. You got to take care of yourself, is what it
sounds like the way you put it. And I don't
disagree kind of.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, I've thought that for a long time, is that
ultimately the government is not going to protect you, and
you are out there on your own and you've got
to do everything you can inside your own house with
your family to protect yourself or to escape because forget
about it. But this was a total breakdown, Oh tell total.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And I would hope that your listeners more and more
get in touch with their representatives and say, what's with
the State Guard? And why isn't it there? Why are
we spending money that we don't have to. Why don't
we take these very high qualified people. The trains are
free all year round, they're ready to go out the door,
like U shots, that's amazing. Do we do that? And
then why don't I join? I mean, you think what
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would be with forty million people? You can get thousands
of very qual qualified people, but they don't even know
about it. The state does nothing to publicize the availability
of this organization to function.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
All right, Jake, thanks for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No my pleasure. Thanks Jeth for having.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Jake Coger with the State Guard.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We just said, Jake, I had never heard of this
California State Guard, which apparently is a volunteer militia force.
And they within the militia force, they had a firefighting
group called Team Blaze, and they had equipment, they had
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firefighters very well trained, and Newsome disbanded them a year ago,
and they could have been used and they could be
very helpful in the in the early hours and days
of the fire. And this is just another one of
these small decisions that people weren't aware of at the time,
and now the news leaks out little by little. I mean,
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this story ended up came out in the Washington Free Beacon,
so hardly anybody in LA is aware of this story.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
But you know what's so weird about this is that
they don't get paid unless they're fighting a fire or
they're dealing with a disaster. So it's not like they're
costing the state any money until there's a disaster, right,
So it's definitely not a financial thing.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I don't. This is just inexplicable. But there's so
many inexplicable decisions that added up to this disaster. And
I'm telling this, the secondary disaster of this was the
response and the preparation from all levels of government. And
this State Guard being it's firefighting unit being disbanded is
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just is just another example of it. And there's a
story it was in the La Daily News. It's just
I really feel for the people in Altadena and Palisades
because now they're looking at endless months and years of
going through the grind of dealing with the government, bureaucracy
and dealing with I just like, there's this long snake.
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There was apparently long long string of cars along pch
snaking for two to three miles, and it was it
was residents of the Palisades inching their way into parking
lot number three in Santa Monica, where they had to
show ID to get them a permit so they could
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drive into the burn zone. You had to spend hours
three miles that's the best they could do.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
They've had plenty of time, plenty of time to figure
out a process that would make people happy, and it
wouldn't it wouldn't be this long.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Why would you arrange it? And I don't know who's
in charge of this, why would you arrange it that
there's only one place to get the permit so they
you'd have a three mile line.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, that's the thing we were told, right that we're
going to cut down on the red tape. There's going
to be very little red tape. We're going to make
the process as easy as possible.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
But this isn't easy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, couldn't you go to something like the Dodger
Stadium parking lot? Remember during COVID.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yes, with the vaccine, with the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And they used a whole parking lot in order to
facilitate as many people as possible. And that's when they
were trying to vaccinate the whole county.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Right, or have a few different places, numerous places to
be able to do this.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, why would you pick one? Maybe they had another
parking lot, but this one ended up with a three
mile traffic jam. Why is it diplomat. Why is it
that these bureaucrats do everything badly, consistently badly, and everything
is a torture. Haven't these people gone through enough? And
it's only three weeks in.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I would think that when you have a crisis like this,
you know what you give in.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You have to be.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Able to be flexible, and you have to be able
to change things. And maybe everything isn't exactly how you
I'm talking about the bureaucrats how you wanted to go.
But I mean, at a time like this, let the
people go back to their homes or what was their
home and let them see it. And enough with the
waiting and the these long lines.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I mean, you're right, these people have gone through enough.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And then they talk about some of the people who
they were dressed up dress up head to toe and
protective gear, you know, have suits, and they go through
the sad rubble of their home. They looked at the
Kadeshian family. The mother is Kim Kadeshian.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Not Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, this is the Kadeshians. They have less money and
and mom and grandma and one of the kids, Paul,
he's taking an entire quarter off from college to deal
with the fire, and he said, I thought we were
gonna have to be like gold miners with a pan
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sifting through the ash. The home wasn't completely destroyed, but
there weren't many items left, and he you know, they
just grabbed a some silverware, melted down jewelry, a couple
of antis, partially melted typewriters. Yeah, so sad, it's you know,
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And he said, after a while he goes the things
and stuff I was hoping survived. I'm kind of hoping
now that they didn't because they would be unsalvageable. Like
he doesn't want to see things melted down and ruined.
He'd rather have just be gone.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
How many people, I'm very curious or a percentage of
people are going to decide, you know what, screw this.
We're not going to wait eighteen months to.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Have the debris removed. We're just going to move somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's another thing I read. It is going to be
eighteen months. Yeah, the EPA said, because because when when
when Trump was saying, hey, it's going to be eighteen months,
I'm told bast was saying, no, no, it's not going
to be eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Months, and then how long is it going to be?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
She was lying there. She was lying there because it
was federal employees were telling the residents that it's going
to be eighteen months to the cleanup, and she just
outright lied. I know that that should be streamlined. We
got to take a break.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We're on from one in some four and after four o'clock.
Whatever you missed John Cobelt' show on demand on the
iHeart app. We've been discussing the fire, and boy, you
people in the Palisades, if you're listening, I know what
one of your worst fears is that they're going to
force affordable housing into the Palisades. And you may see
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officials saying no, no, no, that's not going to happen. Well,
there's pressure coming from these idiot housing advocates to do
exactly that. Gavin Newsom had signed a bill, Senate Bill
three thirty and it requires affordable housing. There's a second
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bill called the Density Bonus Law, which encourages developers to
build new units of affordable house apartment buildings. And the
whole plan was to force cheap housing into wealthy areas
in the name of equity.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know, I can't afford to live in the Palisades,
and my dream was always to live in Malibu, not
that I'd want to live there now, but you can't
afford it, So therefore I live in the San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You would have been out of Balibu by now.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
It's no longer my dream. Yes, I'm sad to say
my wife.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Had that dream too. The dream has been revised, I know.
See this one I don't understand is like, why is
it so hard? This is progressive lunatics again. Why is
it so hard to accept that there are things in
life you're never going to have because you're never going
to make enough money. We all have that. Even billionaires
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are jealous of one another.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, there's always somebody that's going to make more money
than somebody.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I have read that. The wealthy guys who have the
Gulf Stream private jets. Yeah, they get headitive over who's
got the biggest jet or the most modern jet, and
sometimes a guy taps out at the mid size jet
and then they run into somebody who's got the super jet.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Can you imagine having that problem.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, that's what I want. I want to feel insecure
because my private jet is smaller.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
My jet is smaller than your jet.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But it's that's the way it is. There is no way.
I don't know. I don't know if there's maybe an
Arab oil baron who has more money than Elon Musk's.
I mean, I don't know if Musk is absolutely the
richest person in the world. Who cares? I know, but people,
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it makes me crazy. And it's these progressives who are
constantly babbling about equity. There's no reason to stick poor
people in the palisades.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You need just to build the palisades the way the palisades.
I mean, that's just right.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, the people that lost their homes, let them rebuild,
have the shopping center and the restaurants, and just keep
everything the same.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's wrong to do this, and La County officials want
to waive state housing laws, and there is blowback because
Amy Bodek is the head of the county Planning Department,
and she said she thinks state laws could end up
hampering the recovery because homeowners want to rebuild what they had,
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and these laws incentivize developers to create density, which is
a code word for apartment buildings and affordable apartment buildings,
which is that's not the way the people in the
Palace Sades want to live. I'm going to be blunt here.
When you make some money, you want to live with
your own kind and you don't want to live with
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people of different classes. You just don't. And that's just
a universal human truth.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But it's also again the people that live in the
Palisades no fault of their own. They lose their homes,
they lose their community. They want to rebuild, and they
want it back the same They loved living in the Palisades,
and I'm sure many of them want it back.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
There's a actually, shouldn't be an opportunity to change that.
They shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
They had this meeting and at the meeting, housing advocates
contended that the county's waiver would slash too many restrictions
bypassing laws. The laws are supposed to solve the affordable
housing crisis. You're not going to solve the affordable housing
crisis by taking a burned out fire area and forcing
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people to build apartment buildings. What everyone wants to live
in a single family home neighborhood, and that happened.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But John, what happened.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
If there wasn't the fire right, you weren't going to
You weren't going to have affordable housing in the Palisades.
It's only because of a tragedy that you're trying to change.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yes, they're trying to take advantage of it. Oh, they're
very excited, which is what was predicted. Nolan Gray is
senior director of legislation and Research for some whack job
group called California Yimby. You've heard of Nimby. No in
my backyard. This is yes in my backyard, but it's
yes in somebody else's backyard, not Nolan Gray's backyard. Well,
this is just going in the wrong direction. There's so
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much in here that has nothing to do with helping
people rebuild. He is for he's for these laws that
are going to construct thousands of affordable units. All those
people should move to another state, go to another city,
another state. California is not the place for you if
you can't earn enough to live here.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
But also the people that want to move back, they
want to rebuild in the Palisades. This is going to
make them not And then they have to figure out
places to go.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So it's penal it's just not fair.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He says. If the Oh, here's another law professor at
UC Davis, Chris Elmendorf. He says, if the goal is
to get people back in their communities as fast as possible,
shouldn't the goal be to build as much housing in
these communities as fast as possible. No, because the people
in these communities don't want to live in apartments, and
they don't want to live in affordable housing.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Apartments well, because they don't need to see.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Affordable housing is a fancy word, you know, to give
give homes to poor people, and then you have all
kinds of class problems. You have people live vastly different
lifestyles that don't mix well together.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So there's not going to be an incentive for people
in the people who lived in the Palisades to want
to rebuild there.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, because it's not you know.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Which is what these housing active advocates want.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
But then it's not fair to those people because where
are they going to go.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They don't care about fair, they're looking for equity. They
want just as many poor people to live in a
place like the Palisades as wealthy people. They don't think
wealthy people should have a lock on beautiful views.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
But again, I can't afford to have that beautiful view.
And you know, maybe I did something wrong in my life.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I don't know, but we could go through that one.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
That's true, but you know I can't, and I've.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Accepted to just accept that. Everybody. I don't know people
like this. It's only these progressive advocates who talk like this,
the idea that you're not supposed to accept the limitations
of your abilities, of your accomplishments, of your talents. It's just,
you know, we're not all created a week. Well, we're
not all the talents in the world are distributed equitably.
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That's not the way it works. Not all of us
have the same look. I grew up in lower middle class.
My parents had no money. My dad made eleven thousand
dollars a year. You know, I've worked in incredibly hard
for decades, and I got some activists. Adiot who wants
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to put up an apartment complex across It's not fair.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It isn't fair. That's not being equitable.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It's like a penalty. It's like you're a penalty for
being success tesful. What a weird, sick, psycho culture we have.
And I saw this and it just made me crazy
because I know the people in Palisades are afraid of this,
because Newsom and these bullies in the California Legislator had
written these series of laws, and are they are salivating thinking, Wow,
(25:18):
this is a great chance to make the Palisades equitable.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
That's taking advantage of a terrible situation.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It is more coming up.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Forty Conway, coming up in a few minutes. One of
the other big foul ups was in La County. The
emergency notification system over this a couple of times, right,
fake phony, false notifications claiming you have to evacuate, And
that happened several times. That happened like about half a
(25:53):
dozen times, I think.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well, the biggest one was that West Hills fire that
broke out and it was only for people in the
West Hills area, and then I don't know how many people, like.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The whole county was tall to where are we all
going to go?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, the Alley County Board of Supervisor's emotion to have
an independent review of this system. Who was supervising this
all these years leading up to that moment. They're going
to do a review now and an investigation now of
all the screw ups, you know, the not being prepared
for the fire in the Palisades.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Right, Well, we haven't heard from that person, no.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I but.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
These people work on this stuff for years and years,
and then they assure us that everything's in place, and
if something happens, you'll see how it works.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, do they ever do dry runs? You know where
it's not going to go? I mean, seriously, how do
they How do they check these things?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I don't know. I don't remember ever getting an evacuation
test order, but.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I think I think we Well, but then that would
scare people, and you can't do that now because everybody'd.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Be freaked out.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're gonna have a system, you got it, you got
to tell I know, you have.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
To figure out a way to test it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah. So, I mean, and the story goes through the
whole list, but we've lived through the whole list. Uh,
Conway has arrived. How are you hey?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Now?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Hey, now you guys sound great. It's the new John
and Ken.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I'm just visiting today having fun, is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
He he loved.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Having me Tim, he did really right, John Oh, I
asked for it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
What what's going on? Is that right? Yeah? You with
a blooper show, you have you have partners every two days,
that's right, all kinds of people wandering and off the street.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I have partner. I have partners every day. Some on
the air too. Yeah, right, all right. Alex Stone is
coming on with us. I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Patrick O'Neill.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
He does the King's Game and he his uh he
had a house in Malibu that is still on fire,
like a couple of days ago, I mean right on
the beach there. And so we'll we'll chat with him. Also,
doctor Ray kas Sherry's coming on with us. That guy's great.
He'll talk about the air quality and all the crazy's
going on. And then Tula Sharp, who's with the mo
(28:02):
Kelly show. He's doing I'm involved with some kind of
charity event. Will give them a little love. And then
Trump is in the news.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
How about that is he? Yeah? He is? That's right,
all right. I guess the head of the FDA.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I was told to get out and she said, I'm
not going, and they said, is.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That right you are? Yeah, there's no upside to say
no right now. They escorted her out seriously.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, all right, that's starting up crap in a box.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Conway's next. Dey. Thank you, thank you for having me
and Carzier live in the twenty four hour newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI AM six
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