Another banger episode! Coachella weekend two - all our thoughts, including - Justin Bieber, Madonna, Sabrina Carpenter, Olivia Rodrigo and Addison Rae! Prince Harry's confession! Ryan Reynolds is so delusional! Should Victoria Beckham stop talking about her sons? Meghan Trainor' has many problems!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
H one and only Perez Giltony guys, welcome to our
PHP booker here Perez, They're looking good, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm great?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Another big show for you all, Coachella Part two. We
will obviously be talking Justin Bieber, Madonna and more, plus
Megan Markle, Megan Trainer, Zane Malick.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And Louis Tomlinson.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
A lot of drama there, sad for you know, all
those kids in their thirties now who grew up idolizing
them speaking of Brits. Even more drama with Victoria Beckham.
Also some positive Olivia Rodrigo news and more. But first,
how are things with you?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Good?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
To Florida this weekend? Sight great?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, I'm not sure what time it is right now.
It's like one of those where I took the Red
Eye on Thursday nights. So the entire time I was there,
I was exhausted. But I think I'm back and straight
and good now. But I saw my nephew and yeah,
just a wonderful weekend, how about you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I had a wonderful weekend too.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I went to Trader Joe's on Saturday and that was
about like the extent of my day. But I then
cried a little bit, like, not like a lot of crying,
like just like maybe crying is not the right word,
because I didn't like shed. I got a little misty eyed,
and I just was really Saturday and Trader Joe's was
the first time that I ventured out into the world
(01:35):
in a non medical setting, and I literally had five
people come up to me and say that they were
aware of everything that was going on.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And just sending positive vibes. So that was very nice.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And now here we are, Let's get to the show,
all right, Coachella weekend too. This is one of those
instances where I would have felt really salty had I
seen justin Bieber Weekend one, because it feels like he
took it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Up a notch for Weekend two.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
He even brought out several surprise guests, including Big Sean, Sizza,
and Sexy Red, plus the very emotional moment where he
had that one Less Lonely Girl stick where back in
the day he always used to pick one less Lonely
girl and this time he brought out an og hardcore believer,
(02:25):
Billie Eilish, and it was a really sweet moment and
all those little touches, I think made Weekend two bieber
performance more compelling for me, although a lot of what
I thought Weekend one still stands.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, no, I think I agree with all of that.
But just like anything else, the second time you do something,
it's always better. It's like if you act in something
the first time, you're gonna be a little stiff, you know.
And it's been quite some time since Justin Bieber has
climbed up onto a big stage. So as cool as
he looked on Weekend one, because he did, he seemed
pretty confident. It was like tenfold this, you know, so
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much better, and I think he just was more comfortable
with it. I think he was more comfortable with the
technology and what he was attempting to do. I'd still
like to hear the hit songs all the way through
and you know, respected.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Unlike just his current voice.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I didn't say that last time, but it's like, yeah, okay,
the whole like singing along with your younger voice, I
get that, but like, I just want to hear you
now after you've done that so many times, Like, let
me just hear your voice now.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
There's a bit of that when he is performing with
his younger self, because obviously he's in a different key
even now. I kind of enjoyed that, the juxtaposition of
the two, you know, the young Justin singing with the
new old Justin. I don't know, I covering Justin Timberlake.
I thought that was cool. But yes, I guess I
can agree with a little bit of that. But I
still want to hear him more, just sing some of
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the hits that I know by himself with his voice.
You know, he is singing. He's using his voice, which
is great. It just wasn't like an autotune performance or
anything like that. So that's nice. Yeah, yeah, you know,
the Billie Eilish moment's so great, especially after the fact
when you see all of the social media with her.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh yeah, you see all the posters up in her
room and there's a video where she's talking about having
her first boyfriend and she's not sure if she should't
even have a boyfriend because she wouldn't like him as
much as she likes Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's so sweet because she is a real fan and
someone that's comfortable with being on stage.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But she was not comfortable being on stage.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But I think that's a little bit of an act.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
No, I don't think it was an act.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You don't think she thought she was going to be
up there. She was standing right there.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, it's not that, it's that when in that moment
she was back to that twelve or eleven or thirteen
year old girl.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, I just met like it was planned out.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You didn't see all the video of like Hayley Bieber
pushing her up there and everything.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, that makes me leads me to believe that they
want us to think it wasn't planned out.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Oh no, no, I believe it was planned out. But
I also believe she wasn't comfortable on stage. Yeah, like
she wasn't Billie Eilish the performer. She was Billie Eilish,
little girl who's a believed.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That was very sweet.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Oh god, we have to move on to Sabrina Carpenter
and Madonna.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now I knew I was like going to interrupt you
and say he's about to talk about Madonna right after
the Oh god, so come on, it was not that bad.
She's a.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No, no, no, no, no, there's multiple thoughts happening here.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, first before.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
We even get to Coachella. God, I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
All.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I don't understand it all. Oh, it like literally pains me.
Why would you release a song the first taste of
your new album that's not an A plus in my opinion.
The song that we talked about on the Patreon show
Thursday patreon dot com slash Perez Hilton, which I was
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even hoping was a fucking interlude. I was like, maybe
it's an interlude, you know, because she's done that sometimes before. Nope,
it's a song and it's the first taste of her
Confessions two album. Then afterwards we hear from Billboard Magazine
that is not officially the first single.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't give a fuck what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It needed to be an A plus or an A
and it's not, and it's sadly like a C minus.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I don't know if it matters.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It does matter.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It does matter because I'm a big Madonna fan and
I want excitement for her new album. I want to
listen to the new album. I don't even know if
I'm going to listen to the new album if I
keep hearing songs from it that I'm underwhelmed by. Speaking of,
she performed one of the new songs from the new
album with Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina is featured on the song,
and while the other song I Feel So Free is
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a C minus, the one with Sabrina is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A solid C maybe C plus.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
If you're being generous, Okay, did you think it was
better than a C plus?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Like I said, she's a senior sitting.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
No, no, no, no no no no no, don't cop out
rate the song.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I'm not copping out. I don't think it's that great.
I didn't expect it to be great, is my point.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I guess I was because I Confessions is my favorite
Madonna album.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's not my gear for Madonna. When Madonna had a
second act, which is extremely rare.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh, she had third, fourth, fifth acts. You know Madonna.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I would say Madonna was peak Madonna up until the
whole music era.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, I was gonna say the music era would be
the clearly defined Act two of Madonna.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, but she had so many acts two before that too.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Also, those were just her putting things out. What were
the big hits that the whole world gathered around?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, actually, I'll take that back.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
She was still peaking up until Confessions won because Hung
Up was a massive worldwide hit and so was sorry.
But you know, you have to remember there were many
points in Madonna's career where people were like, oh, she's
over or this or that, Like the Erotica album that was.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean, it had some hits, but she was so hated.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It wasn't well received, that's for sure, and because it
wasn't the good old, straightforward pop music. But that's Madonna, right.
It's like different and she wanted to do different, And
that's why you gotta respect Madonna.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yes, she's always pushed the envelope.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
But to me, everything you said, sorry and all those
songs not hits.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What are you kidding? Hung Up? Hung Up was a
massive hit, worldwide turntable hit. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It wasn't a song.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Like Shut Your Mouth. Hung Up was a massive hit.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So if hung Up went number one in the United
States for more than one week, would you say that
was a hit?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Then?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What You're insane?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
How many Taylor Swift songs went number one from her
album releases because she has a lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, but those are different.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't care about streaming. I'm talking about songs that
have impact that everybody knows, And to me, I'm just
trying to get to the point Macdonna. Her second act
with me officially started with music. When music came out,
that was like, oh wow, that's reminiscent of her bigness.
That song was fucking everywhere and it was huge, and
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you were looking at somebody that wasn't a teenager out there,
that was someone that they were in their probably late
thirties at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, she was forty seven, almost fifty.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're kidding, Okay, so the kaka now sorry sorry with
schera music would have been two thousand.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
On music, she was probably early forties because Confessions was
right after, and that she was forty seven.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
When Confessions came again.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
To my point, she was in rarefied air already. When
you have something that is undeniable, that's a juggernaut to me,
all those other songs you're naming not juggernauts, music juggernaut
and to me that was like MTV. Still, my point
is she was back in the ether then, so for
her it maybe even sniff that God that would be
(09:45):
like rarest of air.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, no, no, no, you're not understanding. I don't care about
Madonna having a hit. I just wanted her to have
great songs. You can have great songs that are not hits.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Agreed, And everything you mentioned before are great songs, but
I wouldn't call them hits.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Hung Up was a hit. Sorry, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I'm not even sure which hung up is?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Every thing that you say, oh do I'm hung up.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, that's a good song, very good song. It's a
hit song, but I'm not saying it's a juggernaut like music.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Anyways, the song was Sabrita I was disappointed with. However,
when they did like a Prayer, Damn, that was magical. Yeah,
and she's still Madonna, so I could still love her
and be critical and also think she's my favorite artist
of all time. Like I'm not one of those people
who like needs to live in Madonna's booty hole, you know,
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like not everything she does is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah. To me, she's an oldies act, and that's just
what it is.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
She is an oldies act. Yes, she hates that. She hates.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm sure she does, and that's why she's putting out
this song that isn't like anything she's done before, and
maybe not that good, but Madanna doesn't give a shit.
She just doesn't give a shit. She wants to do
what she wants to do, and that's part of what
her great. I think. But it is great hearing the
hits and it's wild her even talking and she's a
fucking loon out there talking about chologically, I know, but
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she still is so comfortable in a space and commands
oh yeah, your attention, oh yeah when she talks, and
the lunacy that comes out of that hole of hers
She's still amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And also kudos and thank you to Sabrina Carpenter because
I looked at the entire runtime. She gave Madonna eleven minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm guessing it was actually probably Coachella. They just gave
Sabrina eleven extra minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I told you last week, I said, but Donna
on the Patreon I told everybody, but Donna was probably
going to be with Sabrina Carpenter, And you thought she'd
do that intro thing.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I thought she was going to do this, the Susan
Sarandon bit, which actually Gina Gena Davis, Gina Da David
did the second weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a callback to Belman Louise, which was very cool.
But I said it anyhow on the Patreon that she
was going to come out there, and they adjusted Sabrina
Carpenter set and made it so she have more time.
That was the tell. So I think she just got
more time.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Still, the fact that Sabrina decided to give Madonna that
much extra time that she was given, it's still awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It was cool. I often wonder do kids appreciate or
understand the greatness of Madonna? Do they know? I mean,
none of them were alive even during music, you know
what I mean. So music is different today, I guess
because of streaming and kids can find everything and you
can get knowledgeable on pop music or anything if you
want to, if you care to.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, there are young gays like eighteen and nineteen who
don't even know Madonna's song.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Right to my point, like those young gays should all
be they should be excommunicated from the community if you Adanna.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I even became familiarized with the olden divas, you know,
Like I didn't grow up in the sixties or seventies,
so I wasn't familiar with Barber Streisand, But I became
familiar with Barber Streisand, and I was educated on her
cultural importance for the queer community.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, you should release the game Handbook for music.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh my god, that'd be a great idea.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
A great idea. You should do that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think it would be awesome where you show the
gays like, listen, this is a prerequisite for your gaius.
I will pluck your gaydis away from you as a
matter of fact. If you do not know these.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Facts, that is no great idea.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yes, okay, Well, on the flip side, have you heard
the new Olivia Rodrigo song.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yes, Holy guacamole.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
This song the first time I heard it, before I
even got halfway through, I'm like smash banger, a plus
huge hit, and I loved it. It's such a good song. Actually,
I fucking called it. I told you when I just
heard the instrumental. I said this last week, Yeah, I said.
Olivia Rodrigo released the instrumental like ten to fifteen seconds,
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and I could tell this is gonna be a good song.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And boy was I right.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's even better than I thought it would be. And
the music video was awesome. They filmed it in Versailles.
But you don't care about music videos. You probably don't
eve see the music video, did not know it's sexy,
it's fun, it's flirty. And then over the weekend she
performed it and I actually got into a disagreement with
one of my older gays about this because she debuted
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the song for the first time as a guest during
Addison Ray's set at Coachella, and my friend thought that
was lame, and I'm like, you're just an old gay
who was a little bit out of touch. I think
it's so cool. It got everybody talking. It was unexpected,
and it was young like, it wasn't meant.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
To appeal to everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It was just meant to appeal to young people, and
it landed, and I thought it was a great choice.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
To me, you're kind of contradicting yourself because Madonna did
the same thing with Sabrina carbon What do you mean
in reverse debuting a new song there, You didn't feel
that it landed.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It would have if the song was good. That's the
whole point.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, I see, if the song was good, it would
have landed.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh yeah, the song was good, I would have loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm not going to say I'm on your inside, but
I thought the performance was super lame. Because I think
Addison Ray is talentless. I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, I loved it. I thought it was cute.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I like seeing her out there in her little jeans
and being all cute and like doing the song. It
was fine. I like the single better than I like
put it this way. I don't think that performance did
any favors for the single. I think the single on
its own stands on two legs. Yeah, it is very
very Taylor Swift. When it starts, it is, oh my god,
listen to it again. With that thought, I literally was like, man,
(15:28):
this is a Taylor Swift ripoff.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That did not that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Nothing getting of it again. To me, that's what it
sounds like. But then it changes immediately and it goes
away from that. But man, I felt Taylor Swift all
day long. Now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I was sitting with the Drop Dead the Neo Olivia song,
and I was like, what are the references? And I'm like, well,
it's not eighties, it's not even early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's clearly nineties.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I was trying to decipher what the sonic references
are because that's how music works nowadays. It's like it's
all a fucking music musical Pinterest board, and they're like,
I want to this song meets that song and create
a new song.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's almost like you throw it into AI and it
regurgitates like a clip of something, and you go, that's
the sound. Now let's build a song around it. You're right,
that's what music is turned into, which.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Is sad because it's like I wish, I wish that
great songs could just evolve without saying, well, I want
it to sound like this has a baby with that,
with a little bit of extra this. But whatever, I
still love it. Though I still think it's an A
plus song.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's still kind of what Madonna's trying to do is
not grab from anything in anybody and still trying to
do something on our own. You don't get the luxury
of an airworm when somebody tries to do that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, you're like, no, I would have been happy with
at least a B B plus B minus, but the
best that I got was a C plus.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
From Madonna, and that's fine. Whatever, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I'm curious to hear if you agree with me or not.
And also, this could be a very divisive topic for
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Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, well we just got out of a commercial break there,
so they.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Know, all right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Victoria Beckham was interviewed recently for The Wall Street Journal
magazine just a couple of days ago, and she was
asked about her estrangement from her son, Brooklyn, her eldest child,
who's close to thirty. Okay, and this is what she
had to say. Quote, I think that we've always we
love our children so much. We've always tried to be
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the best parents that we can be. And you know,
we've been in the public eye for more than thirty
years right now, and all we've ever tried to do
is protect our children and love our children. And you know,
that's all I really want to.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Say about it.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Okay, First of all, before I even share my thoughts
and ask for your take, it's pretty much a guarantee
that this was pre approved, meaning the Wall Street Journal
told Victoria Beckham's team they would ask about this, and
she had an answer ready to go, right, and this
is the best thing she could come up with. Here's
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my take. I think saying nothing would have been better
because while I am on team David and Victoria, they're
still the adults. They're the parents, and they're dealing with
a thirty year old manchild. And when you're the parent
and you know that you've got a manchild, you have
to think even if I say something innocuous like she did,
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I have no problem with the substance of what she said.
I have an issue with her just saying anything at all,
because what she said, innocuous as it is, might still
trigger this manchild, you know what I mean. So I
would have thought, maybe say nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Okay, Look, if she's doing an interview, there must be
some sort of commerce or something that yeah, yeah, okay.
So let's take it from the Wall Street Journal's point
of view. If you did an interview and you did
not ask about the family situation that's been blastered in
front of us everywhere, you wouldn't be doing your job.
So she had to say something, So saying nothing would
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have looked like shit. Now, when you come down to
her words, in what she said, if you read between
the lines, I take it like this, We're famous people.
Nothing has been normal in our life. We did the
best we could. We tried to protect our kids, which
I believe that they did, and sometimes they still come
out as whack chops, is what she said. And I
think that's a really polite way of saying what I
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just said. I don't see anything negative about it, especially because,
like I said, the Wall Street Journal is going to
expect something, so you cannot choose these say nothing option.
If you can, you can always choose that because I
think that's a bigger headline if you do do that,
because Wall Street Journal is not going to do that
interview unless they get something out of it. They don't
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give a fuck what she's promoting. If it's butt cream,
lipstick dance moves, who fucking cares. They don't care. They're
there for their own clicks and their own commerce, and
how are they going to get that by asking the
very question that they have to ask, and they did.
She answered it the best she could. I mean, listen,
that's it. I still think she could have answered it better.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
She could have just said, we're very private people and
we're going to keep it that way.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But pressed they're not right, you're right, you're right, they're not.
They're not, and they can't be. It's their fucking business
to be interviewed by people and to talk about those
headlines that they've created to keep their business relevant. So
it's all commerce. It's always been all commerce with them.
I guess I disagree because I think it's a very
good stack.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That's exactly what Brooklyn said. Though that's exactly what Brooklyn said.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Then maybe he's not as manchild as we think. Putting
your kids when you're famous, putting your kids and they're
out there doing their own famous thing, it's a recipe
for disaster. I don't see a way that ends in
a normal fashion because there's nothing normal about it. There's
nothing normal about having two parents that are Juggernaut superstars,
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you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing normal about it.
And then you're one by proxy, and that's the situation
these kids have been put into, and they're like, well,
the family business is to be crazy. I guess I'm
going to go out there and be crazy. So I'm
not team anybody. I think the situation is what it is,
and you get those results in these sort of weird
statements and fights and peculiar things because of the situation.
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So that's how I see it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Similarly, this also was pre arranged, and we'll make it
quick because we still have a couple more things to
get to. Ryan Reynolds was interviewed by NBC and he
was asked about the Justin Baldoni saga. Willie Geist laid
it up by asking how his family managed amidst the
(21:59):
legal never ending dispute, and he says, Ryan Reynolds, you
really see the illusion.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Behind so much of this stuff, digital life versus real life.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Really, without getting into too much, I have never in
my life been more proud of my wife. People have
no idea what is really going on. I've never been
more proud of someone in my life with that level
of integrity that they bring with them and everything they do.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
He had me there for a second, But then when
you drag in the word integrity, uh hurt.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He's so self centered that he thinks his star power
and listen, he's uber wealthy, uber famous. He thinks that
he can wash her of all of her sins, which
is why he's speaking the way that he does.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But it's also part of trying to control the narrative.
People are dumb. Let's just be honest. When you put
things out there like that. There are people that are
gonna watch it, that are gonna go, yeah, he loves
his wife. They're fine, who cares? You know, it is
a bunch of online whatever and fodder and this and that.
So does it work for everyone? No, but it probably
works for some. That's all.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, bless his delusional heart to me, and.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Like apparently to you, we just see through it because
we know what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well, I've fucking been reading all of the court filings.
I've seen the receipts, proof timeline screenshots. Right, there is
no integrity in what Blake Lively.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Did, right exactly, but most people haven't.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And that's right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Most people aren't even that invested.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Niche audience yet.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a passing headline to like, what's that
all about? Oh, those two are fighting over something? Onto
the next headline. All of this to me is damage control.
Nobody died in any of this. This is just two
wacky actors that took it to the fifth degree for
no reason and apparently still are if I have no
idea why, I guess they like blowing money all right.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Onto the next headline, Perez Adamis called it again.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I probably by this point said this repeatedly, that Megan
Markle is a scapegoat for many people because it's easier
to dislike her than to blame Prince Harry for things
that happened. But in a new conversation that he had
(24:33):
at this summit that he spoke at in Australia where
he probably got paid a ton of money, sure, Prince
Harry revealed that he never was interested in being a
senior working royal and it all stems from his mother's birth.
From his mother's death, which happened just before his thirteenth birthday,
(24:55):
Harry said, in front of this conference, I was like,
I don't want this job. I don't want this role.
Wherever this is headed, I don't like it. It killed
my mom and I was very much against it, and
I stuck my head in the sand for years and years.
And I remember what I said previously on our show.
I said he purposely chose an American to marry because
(25:20):
an American would not have an allegiance to the crown.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
To the Queen.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But if he would have been with a British woman,
he would have told the British woman like, oh, I
don't want to be a senior working royal. The British
woman would have been like, no, no, you have to
you know, like, would have probably not been supportive. But
he found the perfect mate for him, and she's not
to blame.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He is. If you want to use that word blame,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I wouldn't use the word blame. But look, here's
the difference. Though. Everything with him is seated in the
fact that he lost his mother, and him wanting to
check out of any of that stuff, to me is understandable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I agree, he lost his mom and you know that
fucking sucks her playing this game of I'm the what's
her title, the most bullied person on non media. He's
something of winsor of my balls. Yeah, exactly, and still
using that when he's checked out. That's what rubs everybody wrong.
Stop with your duchess of my dick. Didn't get away
(26:19):
from that. She's pretending that she's some sort of royal,
and he's pretending that he wants out. If he did,
he'd get out, and they wouldn't do any of this nonsense,
and he wouldn't let her continue with this nonsense that
she's some queen or princess. It's fine if she's your princess,
but she's not a princess because you guys tapped out together.
She's extremely unlikable because of that. It's seated in that.
(26:42):
That's what bothers everybody, I think, because it's what bothers
me anyhow. It's just like, if you want out, get.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Out, Let's keep it moving because I want to get
to everything. We'll still get to a lot more on
Thursday because we're running out of time. But Megan Trainer,
Holy moly. Three Megan Trainer items today. First, Meghan Trainer
canceled her tour shortly before it was set to start
because she wanted to spend more time with her family.
(27:09):
Translation poor ticket sales for ticket sales for ticket sales. Also,
Meghan Trainer reveals that, like Ashley Tisdale, she too was
pushed out of that mom group and only now is
she's speaking out about it publicly. She says, I was
a bad mom friend. I never went. They had so
(27:31):
many events, they were awesome and always there for each other.
There was a group chat, but eventually they started a
group chat without me because I wasn't there and that
was totally fine. She also reveals that Ashley Tisdale even
reached out to her after Ashley wrote about it twice
and Meghan Trainer says, Ashley texted me, I'm sorry your
(27:51):
name got dragged in and I was like, it's all right, girl.
The world's a silly, crazy place and they just want
something to talk about. And finally Meg Trainer has sold
her Los Angeles house. Maybe there's some I don't know.
That's all.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm not gonna speculate anything else.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right, Yeah, we both I know her a bit just
from interviewing her. She's as people go, as pop stars go.
I always loved Megan, same same, Yeah, she's just so
normal to me. She's not cookie enough to be these
whack jobs, and a lot of them are. They've been
famous for so long for mostly Disney reasons or something
(28:30):
that was seeded into when they were children. Megan wasn't.
She did it the old fashioned way. She wrote a
song all about that bass and it turned into this
phenomenon and she got famous from that. So she came
up differently from them. So to me, she's always been different,
She's always been a little bit more normal, a songwriter,
more than a cook like these other chicks.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I need to give her some tough love. Though.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I just don't think she's a headliner. She's an amazing
opening act for an A list performer. She needs to
have like a killer thirty to forty five minute set.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You know, if she opened for so and so and
so and so, it'd be amazing. But by herself, I
don't know. Also, I'm really worried the Pussycat Dolls are
going to cancel their tour next. Ticket sales are not
doing well. Everybody buy your Pussycat Dolls concert tickets because
I want to see them this summer.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I want to go to the show.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
To me, that's another opening act to me, like, you're.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Right, they should.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The problem is they're doing amphitheaters and big venues. If
they would have done venues like the Wiltern in Los Angeles,
like a one thousand, two thousand person thing, it would
have done really well.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I would say, go out with Justin Timberlake well.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Shooting up, yeah, or open up for Christina Aguilera or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Right, Yes, Speaking of music news, Ice Spice was attacked
while having a meal at McDonald's and I need to
educate my children well on what to do when they
fuck up. I'm assuming that everybody's seen the video by now.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Have you seen the video?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I did?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Okay? Afterwards, a woman that got into.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
This fight with Ice Spice confessed in a chat with
TMZ and admitted to having this physical altercation with her
that she instigated because Ice Spice was rude. If you're
a young person listening, never fucking confess to anything you
did wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Hello, Well, Jesus first, is not of higher intelligence to
begin with. First of all, just from her actions, you
could tell, I mean, this isn't shocking to me. This
is somebody that's trying to build up their resume in
the worst way possible. Yeah, and yet the press will
take the bait and this will build up her resume.
This is why it's hard to be a pop star sometimes,
(30:40):
and people get shipped for not being nice to fans.
You don't know what these fucking people are gonna do.
You're sitting there just trying to fucking eat a big
mac and this happens to you. So yeah, you know,
all the love to ice spice, it's horseshit.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, all right, quickly, two last things First, according to
multiple reports, so I definitely believe this to be true,
Zay Mallick and Louie Tomlinson got into a huge brawl
while filming this Netflix show that I think we might
have mentioned on the podcast before, this show that's now
(31:13):
been canceled because of Zayn Malick's actions. They were allegedly
at a bar, I think, or some establishment. I don't
know all the details, but basically I'm assuming I'm guessing
here because we don't know all the details. But if
I had to put my perezidamus hat on, I think
they were probably drinking, right.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's what I smelled even before you got into this point.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yep, they were probably drinking. And then one thing led
to another, and according to the multiple reports, Zain said
something about Louie's mother, who died in twenty sixteen of leukemia.
So then obviously Louie was like, all right, it's fucking on.
But before Louie could do anything, Zayne punched Louie and
he had these rings on and it made him bleed
(31:58):
and he had to go to the hospital and all
that I will say is.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Gigi Hadid told us first. Gigi Hadid told us first.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The whole thing being that famous and having to live
a life after that is hard. And that's what I'll
say to that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, finally, very briefly, and then we'll take one call.
Dylan Sprouse, the former Disney Channel star, had a very
scary incident with an intruder at his house, but he
brought out his pew pew and restrained the guy and
nothing bad happened. And FYI, I have a ton of
guns in my house and I'm very well trained.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
All right, let's take a call. Shut your mouth, talk
about I got my glock here. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I got my glock right there. I see it in
my safe. Yes, it's in my safe. It's securely tucked away.
I have one in my office and one in my bedroom.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah. All right, you ready for a call?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yesing, Vancouver, Canada. I just wanted to call it to
comment on the Justin Bieber Coachella performance and booker, I
was surprised that you didn't call out how Justin sang
almost like one hundred percent without any track. Because I
feel like when we talk about or when you guys
(33:18):
talking about music. I say week because I feel like
we're talking together, but I feel like you comment on
that around I'm like, oh, yeah, sure they were singing live,
but like they're constantly singing over track, which loves Sabrina,
but like that's what she does. She kind of talks
a little bit, but she's kind of just talking or
singing over her own music, Whereas I felt like Bieber
had a little to none track and so yeah, he's
(33:39):
sang some of the swag songs like you and I
myself were like, I don't love them, but I was
just impressed with the vocals, Like I thought the vocals
were like ten out of ten.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Perez and I always we love Justin's voice.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he's got a great pop voice.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Right, And to me, I'm not giving you fucking credit
because you sang live. You're fucking supposed to sing live, Okay,
So there's no given. And if you're gonna make the
juxtaposition of then you know, Sabrina Carpenter, she may sing
to track, yes, yes, but I think that's to enhance
the performance in the bigness of pop music sometimes and
(34:12):
you know it may be necessary, but I'll say this
Sabrina Carpenter can sing even when she doesn't have track.
If you put her in a tiny desk series or whatever,
the girl can sing. She actually, I don't want to
say this to Perez, but she kind of plew Madonna
off the map in her performance there with Madonna's.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Song No, No No, This is the perfect call because
I forgot about it. Madonna was singing to a hell
of a lot of track. Yeah, for even like a
prayer and for Vogue and everything. I'm like, oh god,
you don't need to rite.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And that's the thing. Like Sabrina wasn't versus Madonna on
a track.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
No, Sabrina was on a track too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
But not as much as a track. I mean, you
could definitely hear her singing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, obviously her vocals are going to be better.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's her show, and she's younger and has her range,
and right, it's her show. It's her sound. Yeah, you
know what I mean, doing her take on Madonna. But look,
that's not the shit on Madonna. She's fucking Madonna. It
was still, it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Was awesome, Right, it's my number one.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
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Speaker 2 (35:32):
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Speaker 1 (35:39):
Eight hundred and seventy five guys, have a wonderful week.
We'll get back together on Thursday for that Patreon show.
Take care see
H one and only Perez Giltony guys, welcome to our
PHP booker here Perez, They're looking good, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm great?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Another big show for you all, Coachella Part two. We
will obviously be talking Justin Bieber, Madonna and more, plus
Megan Markle, Megan Trainer, Zane Malick.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And Louis Tomlinson.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
A lot of drama there, sad for you know, all
those kids in their thirties now who grew up idolizing
them speaking of Brits. Even more drama with Victoria Beckham.
Also some positive Olivia Rodrigo news and more. But first,
how are things with you?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Good?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
To Florida this weekend? Sight great?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, I'm not sure what time it is right now.
It's like one of those where I took the Red
Eye on Thursday nights. So the entire time I was there,
I was exhausted. But I think I'm back and straight
and good now. But I saw my nephew and yeah,
just a wonderful weekend, how about you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I had a wonderful weekend too.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I went to Trader Joe's on Saturday and that was
about like the extent of my day. But I then
cried a little bit, like, not like a lot of crying,
like just like maybe crying is not the right word,
because I didn't like shed. I got a little misty eyed,
and I just was really Saturday and Trader Joe's was
the first time that I ventured out into the world
(01:35):
in a non medical setting, and I literally had five
people come up to me and say that they were
aware of everything that was going on.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And just sending positive vibes. So that was very nice.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And now here we are, Let's get to the show,
all right, Coachella weekend too. This is one of those
instances where I would have felt really salty had I
seen justin Bieber Weekend one, because it feels like he
took it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Up a notch for Weekend two.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
He even brought out several surprise guests, including Big Sean, Sizza,
and Sexy Red, plus the very emotional moment where he
had that one Less Lonely Girl stick where back in
the day he always used to pick one less Lonely
girl and this time he brought out an og hardcore believer,
(02:25):
Billie Eilish, and it was a really sweet moment and
all those little touches, I think made Weekend two bieber
performance more compelling for me, although a lot of what
I thought Weekend one still stands.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, no, I think I agree with all of that.
But just like anything else, the second time you do something,
it's always better. It's like if you act in something
the first time, you're gonna be a little stiff, you know.
And it's been quite some time since Justin Bieber has
climbed up onto a big stage. So as cool as
he looked on Weekend one, because he did, he seemed
pretty confident. It was like tenfold this, you know, so
(03:01):
much better, and I think he just was more comfortable
with it. I think he was more comfortable with the
technology and what he was attempting to do. I'd still
like to hear the hit songs all the way through
and you know, respected.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Unlike just his current voice.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I didn't say that last time, but it's like, yeah, okay,
the whole like singing along with your younger voice, I
get that, but like, I just want to hear you
now after you've done that so many times, Like, let
me just hear your voice now.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
There's a bit of that when he is performing with
his younger self, because obviously he's in a different key
even now. I kind of enjoyed that, the juxtaposition of
the two, you know, the young Justin singing with the
new old Justin. I don't know, I covering Justin Timberlake.
I thought that was cool. But yes, I guess I
can agree with a little bit of that. But I
still want to hear him more, just sing some of
(03:49):
the hits that I know by himself with his voice.
You know, he is singing. He's using his voice, which
is great. It just wasn't like an autotune performance or
anything like that. So that's nice. Yeah, yeah, you know,
the Billie Eilish moment's so great, especially after the fact
when you see all of the social media with her.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh yeah, you see all the posters up in her
room and there's a video where she's talking about having
her first boyfriend and she's not sure if she should't
even have a boyfriend because she wouldn't like him as
much as she likes Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's so sweet because she is a real fan and
someone that's comfortable with being on stage.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But she was not comfortable being on stage.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But I think that's a little bit of an act.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
No, I don't think it was an act.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You don't think she thought she was going to be
up there. She was standing right there.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, it's not that, it's that when in that moment
she was back to that twelve or eleven or thirteen
year old girl.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, I just met like it was planned out.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You didn't see all the video of like Hayley Bieber
pushing her up there and everything.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, that makes me leads me to believe that they
want us to think it wasn't planned out.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Oh no, no, I believe it was planned out. But
I also believe she wasn't comfortable on stage. Yeah, like
she wasn't Billie Eilish the performer. She was Billie Eilish,
little girl who's a believed.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That was very sweet.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Oh god, we have to move on to Sabrina Carpenter
and Madonna.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now I knew I was like going to interrupt you
and say he's about to talk about Madonna right after
the Oh god, so come on, it was not that bad.
She's a.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No, no, no, no, no, there's multiple thoughts happening here.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, first before.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
We even get to Coachella. God, I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
All.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I don't understand it all. Oh, it like literally pains me.
Why would you release a song the first taste of
your new album that's not an A plus in my opinion.
The song that we talked about on the Patreon show
Thursday patreon dot com slash Perez Hilton, which I was
(05:51):
even hoping was a fucking interlude. I was like, maybe
it's an interlude, you know, because she's done that sometimes before. Nope,
it's a song and it's the first taste of her
Confessions two album. Then afterwards we hear from Billboard Magazine
that is not officially the first single.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't give a fuck what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It needed to be an A plus or an A
and it's not, and it's sadly like a C minus.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I don't know if it matters.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It does matter.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It does matter because I'm a big Madonna fan and
I want excitement for her new album. I want to
listen to the new album. I don't even know if
I'm going to listen to the new album if I
keep hearing songs from it that I'm underwhelmed by. Speaking of,
she performed one of the new songs from the new
album with Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina is featured on the song,
and while the other song I Feel So Free is
(06:43):
a C minus, the one with Sabrina is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A solid C maybe C plus.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
If you're being generous, Okay, did you think it was
better than a C plus?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Like I said, she's a senior sitting.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
No, no, no, no no no no no, don't cop out
rate the song.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I'm not copping out. I don't think it's that great.
I didn't expect it to be great, is my point.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I guess I was because I Confessions is my favorite
Madonna album.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's not my gear for Madonna. When Madonna had a
second act, which is extremely rare.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh, she had third, fourth, fifth acts. You know Madonna.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I would say Madonna was peak Madonna up until the
whole music era.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, I was gonna say the music era would be
the clearly defined Act two of Madonna.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, but she had so many acts two before that too.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Also, those were just her putting things out. What were
the big hits that the whole world gathered around?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, actually, I'll take that back.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
She was still peaking up until Confessions won because Hung
Up was a massive worldwide hit and so was sorry.
But you know, you have to remember there were many
points in Madonna's career where people were like, oh, she's
over or this or that, Like the Erotica album that was.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean, it had some hits, but she was so hated.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It wasn't well received, that's for sure, and because it
wasn't the good old, straightforward pop music. But that's Madonna, right.
It's like different and she wanted to do different, And
that's why you gotta respect Madonna.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yes, she's always pushed the envelope.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
But to me, everything you said, sorry and all those
songs not hits.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What are you kidding? Hung Up? Hung Up was a
massive hit, worldwide turntable hit. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It wasn't a song.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Like Shut Your Mouth. Hung Up was a massive hit.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So if hung Up went number one in the United
States for more than one week, would you say that
was a hit?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Then?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What You're insane?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
How many Taylor Swift songs went number one from her
album releases because she has a lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, but those are different.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't care about streaming. I'm talking about songs that
have impact that everybody knows, And to me, I'm just
trying to get to the point Macdonna. Her second act
with me officially started with music. When music came out,
that was like, oh wow, that's reminiscent of her bigness.
That song was fucking everywhere and it was huge, and
(09:04):
you were looking at somebody that wasn't a teenager out there,
that was someone that they were in their probably late
thirties at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, she was forty seven, almost fifty.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're kidding, Okay, so the kaka now sorry sorry with
schera music would have been two thousand.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
On music, she was probably early forties because Confessions was
right after, and that she was forty seven.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
When Confessions came again.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
To my point, she was in rarefied air already. When
you have something that is undeniable, that's a juggernaut to me,
all those other songs you're naming not juggernauts, music juggernaut
and to me that was like MTV. Still, my point
is she was back in the ether then, so for
her it maybe even sniff that God that would be
(09:45):
like rarest of air.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, no, no, no, you're not understanding. I don't care about
Madonna having a hit. I just wanted her to have
great songs. You can have great songs that are not hits.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Agreed, And everything you mentioned before are great songs, but
I wouldn't call them hits.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Hung Up was a hit. Sorry, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I'm not even sure which hung up is?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Every thing that you say, oh do I'm hung up.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, that's a good song, very good song. It's a
hit song, but I'm not saying it's a juggernaut like music.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Anyways, the song was Sabrita I was disappointed with. However,
when they did like a Prayer, Damn, that was magical. Yeah,
and she's still Madonna, so I could still love her
and be critical and also think she's my favorite artist
of all time. Like I'm not one of those people
who like needs to live in Madonna's booty hole, you know,
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like not everything she does is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah. To me, she's an oldies act, and that's just
what it is.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
She is an oldies act. Yes, she hates that. She hates.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm sure she does, and that's why she's putting out
this song that isn't like anything she's done before, and
maybe not that good, but Madanna doesn't give a shit.
She just doesn't give a shit. She wants to do
what she wants to do, and that's part of what
her great. I think. But it is great hearing the
hits and it's wild her even talking and she's a
fucking loon out there talking about chologically, I know, but
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she still is so comfortable in a space and commands
oh yeah, your attention, oh yeah when she talks, and
the lunacy that comes out of that hole of hers
She's still amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And also kudos and thank you to Sabrina Carpenter because
I looked at the entire runtime. She gave Madonna eleven minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm guessing it was actually probably Coachella. They just gave
Sabrina eleven extra minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I told you last week, I said, but Donna
on the Patreon I told everybody, but Donna was probably
going to be with Sabrina Carpenter, And you thought she'd
do that intro thing.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I thought she was going to do this, the Susan
Sarandon bit, which actually Gina Gena Davis, Gina Da David
did the second weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a callback to Belman Louise, which was very cool.
But I said it anyhow on the Patreon that she
was going to come out there, and they adjusted Sabrina
Carpenter set and made it so she have more time.
That was the tell. So I think she just got
more time.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Still, the fact that Sabrina decided to give Madonna that
much extra time that she was given, it's still awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It was cool. I often wonder do kids appreciate or
understand the greatness of Madonna? Do they know? I mean,
none of them were alive even during music, you know
what I mean. So music is different today, I guess
because of streaming and kids can find everything and you
can get knowledgeable on pop music or anything if you
want to, if you care to.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, there are young gays like eighteen and nineteen who
don't even know Madonna's song.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Right to my point, like those young gays should all
be they should be excommunicated from the community if you Adanna.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I even became familiarized with the olden divas, you know,
Like I didn't grow up in the sixties or seventies,
so I wasn't familiar with Barber Streisand, But I became
familiar with Barber Streisand, and I was educated on her
cultural importance for the queer community.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, you should release the game Handbook for music.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh my god, that'd be a great idea.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
A great idea. You should do that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think it would be awesome where you show the
gays like, listen, this is a prerequisite for your gaius.
I will pluck your gaydis away from you as a
matter of fact. If you do not know these.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Facts, that is no great idea.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yes, okay, Well, on the flip side, have you heard
the new Olivia Rodrigo song.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yes, Holy guacamole.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
This song the first time I heard it, before I
even got halfway through, I'm like smash banger, a plus
huge hit, and I loved it. It's such a good song. Actually,
I fucking called it. I told you when I just
heard the instrumental. I said this last week, Yeah, I said.
Olivia Rodrigo released the instrumental like ten to fifteen seconds,
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and I could tell this is gonna be a good song.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And boy was I right.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's even better than I thought it would be. And
the music video was awesome. They filmed it in Versailles.
But you don't care about music videos. You probably don't
eve see the music video, did not know it's sexy,
it's fun, it's flirty. And then over the weekend she
performed it and I actually got into a disagreement with
one of my older gays about this because she debuted
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the song for the first time as a guest during
Addison Ray's set at Coachella, and my friend thought that
was lame, and I'm like, you're just an old gay
who was a little bit out of touch. I think
it's so cool. It got everybody talking. It was unexpected,
and it was young like, it wasn't meant.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
To appeal to everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It was just meant to appeal to young people, and
it landed, and I thought it was a great choice.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
To me, you're kind of contradicting yourself because Madonna did
the same thing with Sabrina carbon What do you mean
in reverse debuting a new song there, You didn't feel
that it landed.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It would have if the song was good. That's the
whole point.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, I see, if the song was good, it would
have landed.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh yeah, the song was good, I would have loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm not going to say I'm on your inside, but
I thought the performance was super lame. Because I think
Addison Ray is talentless. I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, I loved it. I thought it was cute.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I like seeing her out there in her little jeans
and being all cute and like doing the song. It
was fine. I like the single better than I like
put it this way. I don't think that performance did
any favors for the single. I think the single on
its own stands on two legs. Yeah, it is very
very Taylor Swift. When it starts, it is, oh my god,
listen to it again. With that thought, I literally was like, man,
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this is a Taylor Swift ripoff.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That did not that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Nothing getting of it again. To me, that's what it
sounds like. But then it changes immediately and it goes
away from that. But man, I felt Taylor Swift all
day long. Now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I was sitting with the Drop Dead the Neo Olivia song,
and I was like, what are the references? And I'm like, well,
it's not eighties, it's not even early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's clearly nineties.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I was trying to decipher what the sonic references
are because that's how music works nowadays. It's like it's
all a fucking music musical Pinterest board, and they're like,
I want to this song meets that song and create
a new song.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's almost like you throw it into AI and it
regurgitates like a clip of something, and you go, that's
the sound. Now let's build a song around it. You're right,
that's what music is turned into, which.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Is sad because it's like I wish, I wish that
great songs could just evolve without saying, well, I want
it to sound like this has a baby with that,
with a little bit of extra this. But whatever, I
still love it. Though I still think it's an A
plus song.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's still kind of what Madonna's trying to do is
not grab from anything in anybody and still trying to
do something on our own. You don't get the luxury
of an airworm when somebody tries to do that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, you're like, no, I would have been happy with
at least a B B plus B minus, but the
best that I got was a C plus.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
From Madonna, and that's fine. Whatever, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I'm curious to hear if you agree with me or not.
And also, this could be a very divisive topic for
our for our callers. Eight hundred seventy one five. And
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Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, well we just got out of a commercial break there,
so they.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Know, all right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Victoria Beckham was interviewed recently for The Wall Street Journal
magazine just a couple of days ago, and she was
asked about her estrangement from her son, Brooklyn, her eldest child,
who's close to thirty. Okay, and this is what she
had to say. Quote, I think that we've always we
love our children so much. We've always tried to be
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the best parents that we can be. And you know,
we've been in the public eye for more than thirty
years right now, and all we've ever tried to do
is protect our children and love our children. And you know,
that's all I really want to.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Say about it.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Okay, First of all, before I even share my thoughts
and ask for your take, it's pretty much a guarantee
that this was pre approved, meaning the Wall Street Journal
told Victoria Beckham's team they would ask about this, and
she had an answer ready to go, right, and this
is the best thing she could come up with. Here's
(18:17):
my take. I think saying nothing would have been better
because while I am on team David and Victoria, they're
still the adults. They're the parents, and they're dealing with
a thirty year old manchild. And when you're the parent
and you know that you've got a manchild, you have
to think even if I say something innocuous like she did,
(18:40):
I have no problem with the substance of what she said.
I have an issue with her just saying anything at all,
because what she said, innocuous as it is, might still
trigger this manchild, you know what I mean. So I
would have thought, maybe say nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Okay, Look, if she's doing an interview, there must be
some sort of commerce or something that yeah, yeah, okay.
So let's take it from the Wall Street Journal's point
of view. If you did an interview and you did
not ask about the family situation that's been blastered in
front of us everywhere, you wouldn't be doing your job.
So she had to say something, So saying nothing would
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have looked like shit. Now, when you come down to
her words, in what she said, if you read between
the lines, I take it like this, We're famous people.
Nothing has been normal in our life. We did the
best we could. We tried to protect our kids, which
I believe that they did, and sometimes they still come
out as whack chops, is what she said. And I
think that's a really polite way of saying what I
(19:44):
just said. I don't see anything negative about it, especially because,
like I said, the Wall Street Journal is going to
expect something, so you cannot choose these say nothing option.
If you can, you can always choose that because I
think that's a bigger headline if you do do that,
because Wall Street Journal is not going to do that
interview unless they get something out of it. They don't
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give a fuck what she's promoting. If it's butt cream,
lipstick dance moves, who fucking cares. They don't care. They're
there for their own clicks and their own commerce, and
how are they going to get that by asking the
very question that they have to ask, and they did.
She answered it the best she could. I mean, listen,
that's it. I still think she could have answered it better.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
She could have just said, we're very private people and
we're going to keep it that way.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But pressed they're not right, you're right, you're right, they're not.
They're not, and they can't be. It's their fucking business
to be interviewed by people and to talk about those
headlines that they've created to keep their business relevant. So
it's all commerce. It's always been all commerce with them.
I guess I disagree because I think it's a very
good stack.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That's exactly what Brooklyn said. Though that's exactly what Brooklyn said.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Then maybe he's not as manchild as we think. Putting
your kids when you're famous, putting your kids and they're
out there doing their own famous thing, it's a recipe
for disaster. I don't see a way that ends in
a normal fashion because there's nothing normal about it. There's
nothing normal about having two parents that are Juggernaut superstars,
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you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing normal about it.
And then you're one by proxy, and that's the situation
these kids have been put into, and they're like, well,
the family business is to be crazy. I guess I'm
going to go out there and be crazy. So I'm
not team anybody. I think the situation is what it is,
and you get those results in these sort of weird
statements and fights and peculiar things because of the situation.
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So that's how I see it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Similarly, this also was pre arranged, and we'll make it
quick because we still have a couple more things to
get to. Ryan Reynolds was interviewed by NBC and he
was asked about the Justin Baldoni saga. Willie Geist laid
it up by asking how his family managed amidst the
(21:59):
legal never ending dispute, and he says, Ryan Reynolds, you
really see the illusion.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Behind so much of this stuff, digital life versus real life.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Really, without getting into too much, I have never in
my life been more proud of my wife. People have
no idea what is really going on. I've never been
more proud of someone in my life with that level
of integrity that they bring with them and everything they do.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
He had me there for a second, But then when
you drag in the word integrity, uh hurt.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He's so self centered that he thinks his star power
and listen, he's uber wealthy, uber famous. He thinks that
he can wash her of all of her sins, which
is why he's speaking the way that he does.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But it's also part of trying to control the narrative.
People are dumb. Let's just be honest. When you put
things out there like that. There are people that are
gonna watch it, that are gonna go, yeah, he loves
his wife. They're fine, who cares? You know, it is
a bunch of online whatever and fodder and this and that.
So does it work for everyone? No, but it probably
works for some. That's all.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, bless his delusional heart to me, and.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Like apparently to you, we just see through it because
we know what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well, I've fucking been reading all of the court filings.
I've seen the receipts, proof timeline screenshots. Right, there is
no integrity in what Blake Lively.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Did, right exactly, but most people haven't.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And that's right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Most people aren't even that invested.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Niche audience yet.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a passing headline to like, what's that
all about? Oh, those two are fighting over something? Onto
the next headline. All of this to me is damage control.
Nobody died in any of this. This is just two
wacky actors that took it to the fifth degree for
no reason and apparently still are if I have no
idea why, I guess they like blowing money all right.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Onto the next headline, Perez Adamis called it again.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I probably by this point said this repeatedly, that Megan
Markle is a scapegoat for many people because it's easier
to dislike her than to blame Prince Harry for things
that happened. But in a new conversation that he had
(24:33):
at this summit that he spoke at in Australia where
he probably got paid a ton of money, sure, Prince
Harry revealed that he never was interested in being a
senior working royal and it all stems from his mother's birth.
From his mother's death, which happened just before his thirteenth birthday,
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Harry said, in front of this conference, I was like,
I don't want this job. I don't want this role.
Wherever this is headed, I don't like it. It killed
my mom and I was very much against it, and
I stuck my head in the sand for years and years.
And I remember what I said previously on our show.
I said he purposely chose an American to marry because
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an American would not have an allegiance to the crown.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
To the Queen.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But if he would have been with a British woman,
he would have told the British woman like, oh, I
don't want to be a senior working royal. The British
woman would have been like, no, no, you have to
you know, like, would have probably not been supportive. But
he found the perfect mate for him, and she's not
to blame.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He is. If you want to use that word blame,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I wouldn't use the word blame. But look, here's
the difference. Though. Everything with him is seated in the
fact that he lost his mother, and him wanting to
check out of any of that stuff, to me is understandable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I agree, he lost his mom and you know that
fucking sucks her playing this game of I'm the what's
her title, the most bullied person on non media. He's
something of winsor of my balls. Yeah, exactly, and still
using that when he's checked out. That's what rubs everybody wrong.
Stop with your duchess of my dick. Didn't get away
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from that. She's pretending that she's some sort of royal,
and he's pretending that he wants out. If he did,
he'd get out, and they wouldn't do any of this nonsense,
and he wouldn't let her continue with this nonsense that
she's some queen or princess. It's fine if she's your princess,
but she's not a princess because you guys tapped out together.
She's extremely unlikable because of that. It's seated in that.
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That's what bothers everybody, I think, because it's what bothers
me anyhow. It's just like, if you want out, get.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Out, Let's keep it moving because I want to get
to everything. We'll still get to a lot more on
Thursday because we're running out of time. But Megan Trainer,
Holy moly. Three Megan Trainer items today. First, Meghan Trainer
canceled her tour shortly before it was set to start
because she wanted to spend more time with her family.
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Translation poor ticket sales for ticket sales for ticket sales. Also,
Meghan Trainer reveals that, like Ashley Tisdale, she too was
pushed out of that mom group and only now is
she's speaking out about it publicly. She says, I was
a bad mom friend. I never went. They had so
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many events, they were awesome and always there for each other.
There was a group chat, but eventually they started a
group chat without me because I wasn't there and that
was totally fine. She also reveals that Ashley Tisdale even
reached out to her after Ashley wrote about it twice
and Meghan Trainer says, Ashley texted me, I'm sorry your
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name got dragged in and I was like, it's all right, girl.
The world's a silly, crazy place and they just want
something to talk about. And finally Meg Trainer has sold
her Los Angeles house. Maybe there's some I don't know.
That's all.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm not gonna speculate anything else.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right, Yeah, we both I know her a bit just
from interviewing her. She's as people go, as pop stars go.
I always loved Megan, same same, Yeah, she's just so
normal to me. She's not cookie enough to be these
whack jobs, and a lot of them are. They've been
famous for so long for mostly Disney reasons or something
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that was seeded into when they were children. Megan wasn't.
She did it the old fashioned way. She wrote a
song all about that bass and it turned into this
phenomenon and she got famous from that. So she came
up differently from them. So to me, she's always been different,
She's always been a little bit more normal, a songwriter,
more than a cook like these other chicks.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I need to give her some tough love. Though.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I just don't think she's a headliner. She's an amazing
opening act for an A list performer. She needs to
have like a killer thirty to forty five minute set.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You know, if she opened for so and so and
so and so, it'd be amazing. But by herself, I
don't know. Also, I'm really worried the Pussycat Dolls are
going to cancel their tour next. Ticket sales are not
doing well. Everybody buy your Pussycat Dolls concert tickets because
I want to see them this summer.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I want to go to the show.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
To me, that's another opening act to me, like, you're.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Right, they should.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The problem is they're doing amphitheaters and big venues. If
they would have done venues like the Wiltern in Los Angeles,
like a one thousand, two thousand person thing, it would
have done really well.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I would say, go out with Justin Timberlake well.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Shooting up, yeah, or open up for Christina Aguilera or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Right, Yes, Speaking of music news, Ice Spice was attacked
while having a meal at McDonald's and I need to
educate my children well on what to do when they
fuck up. I'm assuming that everybody's seen the video by now.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Have you seen the video?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I did?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Okay? Afterwards, a woman that got into.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
This fight with Ice Spice confessed in a chat with
TMZ and admitted to having this physical altercation with her
that she instigated because Ice Spice was rude. If you're
a young person listening, never fucking confess to anything you
did wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Hello, Well, Jesus first, is not of higher intelligence to
begin with. First of all, just from her actions, you
could tell, I mean, this isn't shocking to me. This
is somebody that's trying to build up their resume in
the worst way possible. Yeah, and yet the press will
take the bait and this will build up her resume.
This is why it's hard to be a pop star sometimes,
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and people get shipped for not being nice to fans.
You don't know what these fucking people are gonna do.
You're sitting there just trying to fucking eat a big
mac and this happens to you. So yeah, you know,
all the love to ice spice, it's horseshit.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, all right, quickly, two last things First, according to
multiple reports, so I definitely believe this to be true,
Zay Mallick and Louie Tomlinson got into a huge brawl
while filming this Netflix show that I think we might
have mentioned on the podcast before, this show that's now
(31:13):
been canceled because of Zayn Malick's actions. They were allegedly
at a bar, I think, or some establishment. I don't
know all the details, but basically I'm assuming I'm guessing
here because we don't know all the details. But if
I had to put my perezidamus hat on, I think
they were probably drinking, right.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's what I smelled even before you got into this point.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yep, they were probably drinking. And then one thing led
to another, and according to the multiple reports, Zain said
something about Louie's mother, who died in twenty sixteen of leukemia.
So then obviously Louie was like, all right, it's fucking on.
But before Louie could do anything, Zayne punched Louie and
he had these rings on and it made him bleed
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and he had to go to the hospital and all
that I will say is.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Gigi Hadid told us first. Gigi Hadid told us first.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The whole thing being that famous and having to live
a life after that is hard. And that's what I'll
say to that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, finally, very briefly, and then we'll take one call.
Dylan Sprouse, the former Disney Channel star, had a very
scary incident with an intruder at his house, but he
brought out his pew pew and restrained the guy and
nothing bad happened. And FYI, I have a ton of
guns in my house and I'm very well trained.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
All right, let's take a call. Shut your mouth, talk
about I got my glock here. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I got my glock right there. I see it in
my safe. Yes, it's in my safe. It's securely tucked away.
I have one in my office and one in my bedroom.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah. All right, you ready for a call?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yesing, Vancouver, Canada. I just wanted to call it to
comment on the Justin Bieber Coachella performance and booker, I
was surprised that you didn't call out how Justin sang
almost like one hundred percent without any track. Because I
feel like when we talk about or when you guys
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talking about music. I say week because I feel like
we're talking together, but I feel like you comment on
that around I'm like, oh, yeah, sure they were singing live,
but like they're constantly singing over track, which loves Sabrina,
but like that's what she does. She kind of talks
a little bit, but she's kind of just talking or
singing over her own music, Whereas I felt like Bieber
had a little to none track and so yeah, he's
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sang some of the swag songs like you and I
myself were like, I don't love them, but I was
just impressed with the vocals, Like I thought the vocals
were like ten out of ten.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Perez and I always we love Justin's voice.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he's got a great pop voice.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Right, And to me, I'm not giving you fucking credit
because you sang live. You're fucking supposed to sing live, Okay,
So there's no given. And if you're gonna make the
juxtaposition of then you know, Sabrina Carpenter, she may sing
to track, yes, yes, but I think that's to enhance
the performance in the bigness of pop music sometimes and
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you know it may be necessary, but I'll say this
Sabrina Carpenter can sing even when she doesn't have track.
If you put her in a tiny desk series or whatever,
the girl can sing. She actually, I don't want to
say this to Perez, but she kind of plew Madonna
off the map in her performance there with Madonna's.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Song No, No No, This is the perfect call because
I forgot about it. Madonna was singing to a hell
of a lot of track. Yeah, for even like a
prayer and for Vogue and everything. I'm like, oh god,
you don't need to rite.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And that's the thing. Like Sabrina wasn't versus Madonna on
a track.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
No, Sabrina was on a track too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
But not as much as a track. I mean, you
could definitely hear her singing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, obviously her vocals are going to be better.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's her show, and she's younger and has her range,
and right, it's her show. It's her sound. Yeah, you
know what I mean, doing her take on Madonna. But look,
that's not the shit on Madonna. She's fucking Madonna. It
was still, it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Was awesome, Right, it's my number one.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
All Right, you guys, I'm gonna publicly beg for some
of you to sign.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Up for our Patreon. You will love it.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And I'm still responding to everybody on the message board.
Sign up right now patreon dot com slash Perez Hilton.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
By the way, there's a video version of the show. Yes,
I should throw that in. That's an added feature.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
For if you get the Tier two.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, if if that interest you.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
As well, some people are. We had some people sign
up and we thank them a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Eight hundred and seventy five guys, have a wonderful week.
We'll get back together on Thursday for that Patreon show.
Take care see
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