November 26, 2025 • 40 mins
People expect a LOT at the holidays whether they realize it or not. And we're not just talking about the perfect cranberry mold. We're also talking about emotional mold. On this Rage Pod episode, we get into why tiny disappointments feel so much bigger this time of year, why Ebar thinks you should replace your pepper spray for ice skates, and why we keep giving Thanksgiving way more emotional weight than it deserves.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Something that I've noticed, Yeah, from looking at our footage. Yeah,
I really like when we do the Rage Hotline because
I get to put headphones on because anyone that knows
me knows I have a small head.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh so you love the head they make you look.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Bigger because it gives it gives me more head real estate.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like when I was in college, I had my boyfriend,
like we would joke that I was Beetlejuice, but only
in the waiting.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Room totally when the head shrinks.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So I was looking at the footage and I was like,
maybe I do headphones.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The whole time. You know what I thought of right
now is Beaker.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I love Beaker.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
He's so great. He's just basically a tiny head.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Right No, yeah, yeah, I think my sister called me
Beaker at one point.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
She did. Yeah, that's so funny. I've never looked at
you and been like tiny head. Like never ever in
my life have I ever thought that. It's so weird
that you just mentioned it. And now I'm just gonna
be like, I guess Beetlejuice in the waiting room yep. Yeah,
unfortunately you do not look like that. But okay, I'm
going to roll with it, but I do.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
This is a good no. I need to go as
Beetle Juice in the waiting room for Halloween one. Yet
you sure can, m M.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I did her makeup really well, making her look like.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well trendy wendy fucking she hated. She wanted me to leave,
like she hated it so much that my company wasn't
going to outweigh how much she hated she might get
away from the costume.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, it was so great, so fun.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Tear did an unbelievable job on the makeup. I did
good kids, and then I have very like gross like
spindly hands, so that really helped to Yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
The photo, I still it's the same head, spindley hands,
or of the f you said, don't notice it. I am, though, however, excited. Well,
if I'm saying this, can I say it? If we're
doing Thanksgiving, well we're going before Thanksgiving to enchant I
can mention it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, at some point when you see this episode, we
will have gone to this event called enchanted.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, we will. It's actually called en chant La. And
they were very specific in email erica, do not call it.
You know why?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know why?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Because the movie.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
No, because what because disconso calls it and enchanted it
and they're.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Like the location, oh my moly, that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It could be like a brand infringement, like a trade.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Totally totally, so it's just enchant But anyway, they got
a whole light up maze and I'm just hoping to
get lost in it.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And yes, I do hope that. And they don't have
a skating rink. They have a skating trail. Yeah, so
it's like the Eazy River oh of skating, right, it's
a trail. It's a trail.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
On the advertisement it says real ice, yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Eric was very excited about. And then she noted after
I said, by the way, I got a ice skating too,
and she goes, oh, I just looked it up. It's
real ice. I'm going to bring my skates. And I
was like, oh god, we're gonna walk in and I'd
be like, yeah, hi, you know these are my guests,
and I got the codes for she's bringing in her
(03:32):
own skates? Is that okay? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's Kanya Harding is He is her absolute hero? Just
so we know, so everyone should be on high alerts.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't even know they're gonna be like, what is
in this? It's in my brain. I imagine just a
bowling bag, but it's bright pink, it's got a ribbon,
and it's just I should have your ice your ice
skates that you haven't worn for a while, but you're
gonna kill it. It's gonna be great. Well, not to mention,
but I am going to be embarrassed that you brought them.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Ice skates are like every woman should have a pair
of ice skates.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
No, Erica, you shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Absolutely not, Thank.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You, Wendy.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What what what You don't want a taser or mace?
You have ice skates?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
No one's no?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Oh as a weapon?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Shoulder done support the big big Vani. You're right, jular?
What is it not? The jugular?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, but there's like a order whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Just cut the neck their freaking throat. You cut the neck.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Done deal and here and there you're still going to
have your skates, like there's there's multi purpose. You can
still then skate on that trail.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You don't know if I'd be skating if there was
If there was you know, bloodstop on the material, but
off the blade it's coming off. Oh yeah, what color
your skates they're white state.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
If it's a clean slice, it's only going on the
blade because there's enough real estate between the bottom of
the blade where the sharp part is and where the
boots starts.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I don't know about it because listen, when we slice
the throat, Okay, I got you, I got you, I
got you. It's coming out and it's getting all my shoe.
Now here's what we do. We rotate. We paint a
red heart, and we pretend like you don't need to
do that.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Why not, you don't need to do that because reveal
I was a skater. Yeah, we had like you have
paint because you gotta. You gotta paint your skates when
they get scuffed. Yeah, because everyone's real like.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And over the blood.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You just paint right over the blood. You paint right
over the blood.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Isn't gonna look pink like.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, no, no, no, they've got the real shit. It's
basically like think white out.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But fork it's it's, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You're getting real like Painter's grade. No one's seeing that really.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's just fantastic and it's great for whatever court case
you get.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, honestly, this is the best blitter weapon.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Because here's what we're going to have to do.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Though.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
If I want to have the ice skates in the house,
I really got to start getting receipts going to ice
skating rinks otherwise so that if I do use.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It as her weapon, I'll drop what I'm doing. A.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, you will, that's right. They're like, oh, she actually
does go ice skating. We don't need to look at
these places.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, we don't need to look at you know. Okay,
this is I love this and I think the paint
is so thick that even if they did look at
the boots, they wouldn't be able to detect it. It would
be gone. It's so far and it's that good of paint.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow, okay, sponge.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm going to need that for my doc. Martin's my wife.
Oh it would be great for green, but they don't
have green in those No.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
No, no, I got you, I got you. No one
cares about this conversation anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, we need to we need to move on. Let's
drop in.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We are going to be talking about expectation rage at
the holidays, which is great because Thanksgiving is upon us.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Emotionally eating under the table is what she called it. Yes, tortillado,
that's one of us.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Are stole away right under the table. Yeah, like a
little under the table gnome.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Find out who it is later who it is and
what else you're going to do, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And then we are going to do a game of
would you rather? Which if you've ever played this game before,
we all know it. Just everyone ends up in the toilet, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Which is you know, sometimes you want to be there. Honestly,
it's a good private.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Time mentally in the toilet, maybe even physically.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah. Okay, well let's do it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Let's drop in. This is the Rage Pod where we
rage against the serene.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And all the things in between. I am with Ebar.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I am with Tara Erickson. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Let's get at it. So, yeah, we wrote a couple
things down, I mean basically for this, like the Great
Thanksgiving meltdown, what we have, which I think everybody else has,
is expectation rage.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Of course. I mean, I think expectations is what often
leads to rage in most situations, right, because you get
your hopes up, you think something's going to be different
than it is, and then you feel blindsided and disappointed
when it's not. However that ends up manifesting itself. It
is a it's a form of rage, whether you end
(08:18):
up getting really sad about it or you get really
angry and explosive about it.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And you wrote in this quote that says things evolve
over time, even if you don't want them to, even
if you fight it, everything changes. That's why Brooke standar
for the death of og Thanksgiving, which is very very true,
right you you really do. I think as you get older,
things change so drastically from that really like fun, loving, wondery.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Like innocence, a rational vibe, tenderhearted.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, and then it justs like straight down the shitter
yahkind of.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well it's just you know, okay, things change obviously. Yeah,
you can count the one thing you can count on,
life is changed. Yeah, at some point you're going to
experience loss. It doesn't have to just be the loss
of a person. It could be the loss of a relationship.
It could be the loss of a house, it could
be the loss of you know, the family tradition where
like you no longer meet with the same family members.
(09:21):
So that's a loss of what you once knew that
holiday o GI right, So and that that blog that
she wrote, I highly recommend reading because she gets really
personal with all the changes in her life. Like it
starts with when she no longer gets to celebrate with
her sister because they get married, and then she's with
her in laws, and then at some point she gets
a divorce, and then she loses her father. Like all
(09:44):
of these things greatly impact what the tradition is going
to be or what the get together is going to
be with the dynamics are going to.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Be, oh for sure, Like Miabilita and my mom raised me.
Meabilita died maybe twelve maybe thirteen years ago, and my
mom died I think about seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And just so people know, your Ebilita was not your
actual blood grandmother, right, Yeah she was, Oh she was.
I thought one time maybe I was drunk. I thought
you said she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I thought it was. She was definitely was, OK. Our
fingers are exactly the same some of the facial structures
like Meabalita. But the Meablita and my mom were like
best friends. And then it so it was like us
three plus my aunt plus extended family.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So you did have extended family. It wasn't just typically
the three or four of you correct, correct.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Because then the extended family would would come in, we'd
hang out. That was like og Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And how did you like? Did you like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I loved it because then I would always look forward
to it and going to miabalitas and then like cooking
all the things, baking cookies. It would mainly just be
always at my Grandma's and we would just hang out
and do stuff. And that was a lot of fun
until she died. And then a few years after my
mom died and then everything changed. I don't go back
(11:07):
to Vegas anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, first of all, okay, like rolling it back a minute,
so he are there are there specific dishes that you
remember that like take you back there?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh? Yeah, I think it was mainly cook baking cookies.
I would always bake cookies.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But then were they special, like were they specific to
the holiday or.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I think it was just fun. I like to cut
them out, sugar cookies and make a turkey and then
decorate it. It was like a lot of decorating. It
was on brandy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, oatmeal cookies, stuff
like that. Nothing like too crazy, except I would help
me Abelita with the chili. We would still have beans
and chili, and she'd make hand handmade tortillas, so it
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was still a little bit different. We would always we'd
still have a turkey and stuff and all that, but
it was still we would have handmade tortillas and stuff
like that. And I do very I remember that that
I would hide under the table when I was little.
I'd eat the dough and me I would need to
be like I Kim with chutcha. You don't eat too
much of that. You're gonna get a stomach age. So
(12:12):
those memories I have.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But so and so when you would hang like would
extended family come over just for like a few hours
during the day, or would like it be for a
longer like overnight.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was it was like probably for a couple of days,
like they'd come on that day, but then there would
be plans probably the next day to also hang out. Right,
they're just like around.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So I guess what's interesting to me about this? And
this could apply to like anyone because we talk about,
you know now, how there's you know, you kind of
people dread going to Thanksgiving, like oh I got to
talk to this uncle or wright cousin or whatever. But
like do you think there were members of your extended
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family that were older than you that had that feeling
back then, but maybe you just weren't aware of it
or was it just different, Like is this just what
happens with families, because we're talking about how change is
inevitable and it's not like any of us are in
the first generation where there's loss or divorce or you know,
changes in family.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah. Oh, I'm sure that happened, but mainly because I
mean my one cousin he was on heroin. My uncle
was probably there and on drugs.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
There we go, okay, And it was.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Really just like my aunt, the uh my one cousin
who and her mom who were like solid and obviously
my mom.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Like raior, Like it was like that those that core
group was what, like you really felt a kinship on
that holiday with Yeah, that you have positive memories.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, and there's saw I'm like sure with my uncles
when they they're not like coming in blasted high, but they.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Just on heroin.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
They were high. Yeah, let's face it. And so yeah,
it was you know that changes, things change and when
they die and then I'm I'm like cool, I'm an
only child, so now I don't have any of that,
there are going to be some people are looking at
me and like, oh, I'm jealous, because then you can
always have a friends giving. But then again things still
in that regard. Things change. Things change because I'm now
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of the age where all of my friends are married
off where they have like a family, and so it
can still seem very solo or lonely when you think
about it, of like, well, I don't have any really
Thanksgiving plans, but uh, I mean my aunt could come
out here. But anyway, I mean, how's of you? Because
I know you lost your dad, so it's probably things
(14:34):
for you. You know, that also changes.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What's interesting is that too, like we hadn't met each
other and we lost our you lost your mom and
I lost my dad with them, like wasn't it like
six months? Yeah, just like it's just so interesting yep,
when you meet people. Thanksgiving was always more of the
chill holiday for our family because Christmas all of our
(14:57):
family got together.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So that's where like the juices yeah yeah, yeah, So
Thanksgiving like we would sometimes get together with usually with
my dad's sister and her husband and then sometimes their
kids are our cousins on that side. Yeah, I mean, honestly,
it was kind of vanilla, like we had a good
time to play games. Football was on, like love it.
(15:19):
There's a kind of like not a lot of report.
So of course when my dad died, yeah, it was
a big like Thanksgiving was a lot more like kind
of solemn, like it was just like because my mom
was so grief stricken because it was an unexpected death.
So it was a lot of like, Okay, we're gonna
get together for Thanksgiving and we're kind of just going
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to go through the motions and sit here and check
in and be like, how are you doing? But it's
you know, I feel like there could be almost a
happier time of doing that on a day where it
wasn't so like loaded with this like connection to like, oh,
holidays mean family, and so when you've lost family, there's
such a spot versus like, yeah, what if we got
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that same group of people together for a dinner two
weeks later, would it be even with having lost my dad?
Would it have been as sad? And that's part of
some of the expectation, like the emotional expectation and the
weight that we put on the on this holiday and
other holidays. Of course, right but yeah, I mean, and
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then I have the like just like certain fun memories
of like coming back on that. You know, Wendy and
I have talked about this that Wednesday night when you
were younger and you'd go out with your your friends
from like let's say it's high.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
School from high school yea, And like I always I
was always like, oh, I really want to go out,
but I don't want to disappoint my mom by like
leaving and like her feeling like, oh I just got
home from college and now I'm ditching her to go
out with my friends. That was always like some of
my like emotional conflict, like big fucking Deale.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
People have to play with a lot more than that. Yeah,
but that's like that was like the fun of the
which that changes too, Like that that has an expiration date,
like oh, for sure, you're not you're not hearing your sixties,
Like hey, are we going to get together with our
high school friends and see.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What like no, you know, you're not even in your
miss and see what like no, you're not.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So that has you know, that's temporal too, But what
about you, Freddy, Wendy.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
I think my Thanksgiving definitely has evolved over the years
growing up, you know, my our family was really small,
and then after my parents got divorced. I remember one
Thanksgiving where it sounded a lot like yours, where we
were just going through the motions. It was me, my mom,
and my brother and we're all just kind of sitting
there like, eh, real, hey that's up. Like it just
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was so awful. And then I think as I became
an adult and discovered friends, giving very you know, early
on in my twenties was so fun. I was like,
this really changes everything. And then when I had my
own family, you know what that meant, and then going
through a divorce of my own, but being so grateful
that my ex and I always said, no one's going
(18:06):
to be alone on the holidays, We're always going to
be so we we've always celebrated together, and now we
always have a bunch of friends that come. So my
Thanksgiving has definitely evolved into a much better, unner type
of thing. But there is that expectation rage where there
are sometimes people in my circle or my family that'll
(18:26):
be like, what's the plan for Thanksgiving? And I feel
like the expectation is on me to host, where I'm like, yeah,
why do I have to host every time, like you host,
so that kind of can make me rage for sure.
And this year, I'm so busy. I don't even think
I think we're just gonna call in take out. I
think we're gonna really.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
There's really phon Like there's nothing wrong with any of it.
I actually I'm a big proponent of, like, if you
can make it work, do the off holiday celebration, because
it is like the world is traveling at the same time,
and like everyone's like racing at work to like get
their shit done, and you can feel that stress like
(19:06):
with the people that you're working with. Like let's say
you're you know, you got to call with another company
or you got to call with a client. It's like, oh, yeah,
I'm just trying to get everything done before we before
we leave.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Like imagine if you took some of that stress off
and then you're just like, oh, yeah, my family's getting
together and it's just like you know, the first week
of December or like the second week in September.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, and you're like, oh, that's our Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The only the only downfall with that is that it's
so unfortunate because you're not going to look your boss
isn't going to look down upon you about being going
to Thanksgiving because now everyone's doing it right. And then
you're like, now you if you have a psycho job
and they're like, what the fuck are you leaving in
the first week in December. That's the only pull away
(19:50):
from that. I do agree, because you're like, let's put
less pressure on this. But then I'm like, well, why
can't we just put less pressure on it on Thanksgiving?
If there's a way. I don't think there really is,
but if it's just like, hey, it's gonna be Thanksgiving,
but can we not treat it? Yeah, like the whole
fucking thing. Can we just go We're gonna have dinner,
you guys, bring it just to dinner.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We're gonna get and maybe maybe all forced Tara to
play a game, you know what I mean, And that's
and then that's fun.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We always play games so fun, Chinese Checkers, we play
scrab but we would play the okay, now it's coming
out the family, But don't play those games. Play those games.
I don't she don't play pictionary. Don't she don't like
Chinese Checkers?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well you never offered, Well, I don't have checker me
pictionary me, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Okay, we gotta buy it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But yeah, I mean obviously for a lot of people too,
it's like they don't get the time off, like that's
when they know that they get time off. But I'm
just saying like whatever to your point, Like I do
know people that do off holiday and I'm like, I'm
so jealousy where they do it, like maybe a week later,
oh for sure. But because think about it, Halloween, people
feel stress of Halloween. But it's not the same. Imagine
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if it's just like that, because I feel like sometimes
friends giving is kind of the same idea of like, oh, yeah,
come join us, like come stay whatever, like right, drop in,
drop out, and like it could be that way with family,
but there's just there's so much emotional pent up rage
and sadness and love and the conflict that comes with
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family and.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The passive aggressiveness and the person who comes up and
is like, oh, you're doing it that way.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You're doing it, which is which is why the fuck
are you doing it that way?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh my god, and then it's just it's rage for
all all over again. They don't even realize it because
family is so comfortable around one another that it's like
you're getting shit from all angles and they don't even
realize it's shit. It's just well. And that's getting.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Into like what your expectation of families, right, Like we
talk about expects expectation rage with this holiday, but it's
also about like do you need your child to do
these certain things to feel okay about? Like do you
need them to have the right job, Do you need
them to be with the right person or not be
with a person, or live in this city or live
(22:17):
near you, And all of that stuff is gonna come
up at that holiday because that's when you see them.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So it's really you shouldn't even need it anyway, Just
fucking let it go. How to go eighteen and out
of your house, Let the person become a person without
you being involved. Yeah, sure, you birth them out of
your reagina. I don't care. It's not an excuse for
you to control that person's life.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And whether let go, whether it's a mother or a child,
an adopted parent, Like, it doesn't have to be someone
that birth, like it can also just be it can
be almost like family in general, Like.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Family too shows like if you get.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Close enough where you're like, yeah, I can't wait for
Thanksgiving next year when we bring up what happened at
that dinner in February, you know what I mean, Like, well,
the last time they got together, this is what went down. Like,
who's excited about that? That's just like a whole lot
of anxiety.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
There is something that happens too when you get back
with your family and everybody regresses into the roles that
they had when they were all living. Is that in
that family unit? So we actually reached out to doctor
Nicole and we asked her what is that? What is
this all about? And she said, the why and how
it happens is related to our brain patterns, awareness and peeling,
(23:31):
the onion of being an autonomous being that longs to
be in connection with family and community. Our family pushes
our buttons because they built them. The wiring and pattering
of who we are is partially made of our genetic
nature and part of our environment that includes our family,
and how those dynamics can be very complicated.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, I love that. And it's also like, you know,
when you're being forced Also, let's pretend that you know,
people were like, let's go around table and say what
we're being grateful for you know, that could be a
button for somebody, because being forced to be grateful can
cause resentment.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, you know, I we're like, I'm not I'm pretty
sad like what I'm saying. That was what their answer was, Like, guys,
I just don't have it this year. I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I'm sad, and you know what, I would go, Thank God?
Can you know up me too? That's fine? Uh great,
let's let's talk about it or not talk about it,
let's have a shot, yeah, move on.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, or also yeah, like what do you need from us?
Do you want to talk about it? This is a
great time for us to talk about it because we
don't always get to like come together in person and
be a support system. And if it means like you
don't want to talk about it, that's cool, but just
know that you can, right And exactly the problem is
people hold on to shit. They're holding onto their own stuff,
but like their own you know, resentment from unresolved issues
(24:52):
or like not being able to like get past like
certain decisions that their family members made right, you know,
And that's what whole people back from just having a
great dinner.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Sixty three percent of Americans, they report like that their
stress is so over the top for a Thanksgiving with
Thanksgiving anxiety sixty three percent just of all of it
money financing, seeing family. It just causes anxiety, I'm sure,
like most holidays, but it's just it's when you look
at it like that, you're like a lot of people
(25:24):
are walking into a home that they grew up in,
or maybe not, or just walking in somewhere and going.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
All right, all right, we can do we can do
this for whatever many is. Keep together, we can do it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Don't have bitch resting face, Just smile.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Just don't avoiding topics.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Grin in fucking barge.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
You've reached the rage hotline. Please leave us a message.
The email says, I'm raging right now about this upcoming Thanksgiving,
a Thanksgiving I just cannot attend. Guessing I'm not alone
in this. Sorry, this isn't a funny story, but I
am pissed. Okay, my brother and his wife are hosting
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Thanksgiving at their home this year, and I am more
than disappointed that I can't go. While both my brother
and sister in law are liberal Democrats. My sister in
law's sister, let's call her Leslie because that's her name.
She is an educated woman who grew up in a
loving hippie dippy and on closer look, probably has been
out of her mind for decades. And her father, a
(26:29):
waspy bloated New ENGLANDA both voted for Trump last year.
It took everything in my power to behave myself and
I did. I showed up no taco politics, fake smiled
my way through dinner this year. Between the Gestapo of Ice,
the continued fraying of our democracy, which I don't even
think we live in anymore, and the daily health fire,
I cannot sit there quietly. I am raging. I am
(26:51):
pissed that her family takes precedent over mine and I
won't get to spend the holiday with my mom, my brother,
or my niece and nephew because I refuse to sit
down with people who voted for this. I actually had
to block Leslie from my Instagram because I want to
go off on that girl in the biggest way. It's
not like her vote made the difference, It's that she
is a symbol of what a shit show this all is.
(27:12):
I guess I can be thankful this year that I
won't have to sit down with these Trump voting piece
of shit, but rage, piece of people, but raging that
I can't spend Thanksgiving with my family. Thanks for letting
me vent. Leslie is her sister, she said, Leslie is
the sister in law.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Sister in law, and it's Leslie, but it's less less. Yeah,
that made me laugh so hard.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So we'll just call her Leslie because that's her name.
Oh my god, Oh no, I mean I so resonate
with this. I obviously have Trump voters in my family
and and hearing that something that it made me I
bet Trump voters, Like yeah, but you know, four years,
we've had four Thanksgivings with Biden. Oh, we didn't say
(28:01):
we weren't coming to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Well, we did a poll on our Instagram and we
asked would politics keep you away from doing your Thanksgiving
this year? And it was fifty to fifty fifty people
said fifty percent said that they would still attend, fifty
percent said they didn't. And we also did a call
out on our TikTok and we got a bunch of
comments asking that question, and this is what people had
(28:25):
to say. That is usually a one side adventure. Skip
Rannon said, Nope, Callie Jupiter said before. Recently, I would
have told people to grow up and get through the holiday,
because it isn't difficult to be cordial for a few hours.
But in this political climate, I'd say, fuck it, do friendsgiving.
It's not worth it, especially if you're a marginalized person
and you have chronically online relatives.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
So I feel like that's the thing though, like be
cordial for a couple of hours. But for some people
that's like their whole holiday, right, know.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's like you say, it's not a couple of hours.
It's like unless the people live down the street right right, and.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
You're you're landing at a house on a on a
Thursday morning, you plan to be there the whole weekend.
It's a good four days. Yeah, sure, you're gonna, you know,
smile and fake your way through the dinner. They'll last
for two hours, but you have to be around these
people exactly exactly. You're gonna get shit if you just
show up and you just dinner. If you can do
that and then leave and fuck off, great, But most
(29:24):
people can't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Noose cavils are there for days, and so it's like,
oh my god, dinner was like white, like emotionally white
knuckling to get through. And I have a whole other
day and a half before I get on a plane, Like, yep,
this is.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
My vaca, and I spend one thousand dollars on it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I'm so glad. I've been working sixty hour weeks for this. Ample.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Amber Williamson five to nine one said be an adult
and put the political bs aside for one day. My
family drops their phones off at the door when they
arrive so that we can spend the doorable with it.
Everyone on their phones surprised how nice it actually is.
I actually really like that too.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's very cute. I love that it's like Key's the
ball phone in the I think.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's two separate issues. Though I think that the phones
at the door is a great idea, for sure, I
don't think that that necessarily in every family ameliorates the issue.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Of political division.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Two separate things too, Yeah, Caitlyn says hard pass. Yes,
maybe three elections ago, now exactly everything is filled with hate.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I sent my aunt the email from our anonymous person
who talked about Leslie, and she was like, fuck this,
I'm not going right right right, I can't stand this.
I'm not doing this again. And my aunt is Trumper,
and I was like, let me send her this email
read and I was like, God, I love this, you feel,
(30:48):
tell me how it makes you feel. Please tend me
a voice moo back, and she did, Oh my god,
let's put her headphones on so you listen to it. Oh,
I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait, can't wait?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What she and this is what can wait?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Okay. It legitimately makes me sad the situation between Leslie
and your sister in law or whatever that is. It's
a yeah, a liberal, I like, get too heated over
that kind of thing. But it just makes me sad
that you'd let the politics rule over a family gathering,
(31:30):
because it's, yeah, it should be a time to come together.
And I mean, it's nice to be around like minded
people with the same views and values, but you're not
always going to have that luxury and I certainly don't,
and so it's best to focus on similarities than differences
(31:54):
and come together anyways and try to fight commonalities.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, Levia, I mean you at the end, Oh my god.
So I think the issue is that I am without
getting into like a full on political discussion, because I
hear this a lot from Trump voters, because the politics
(32:19):
outside of you know, outside of money, which seemed to
be the biggest effect to most Trump voters, Like what
is happening? Like it's easy to say, like, oh, I
can set aside politics because your job isn't being taken away,
your family isn't being deported. Like politics is directly affecting
(32:43):
people's lives in an immediate way, for sure, And so
I can see how on the other side someone might
say like, oh, but it's just politics. But politics isn't
just politics for people right now. It's way more severe
than that. Yeah, you know. And so imagine going into
a dinner and like these are things, like these are
(33:06):
the big things that are happening in your life. And
when you go to a family dinner, like that's a
normal thing to be like, Hey, what's going on in
your life?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh well, my.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Cousin just got to put a country the other day.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
They don't that.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
They're not even from, Like it would be weird not
to talk about that. Yeah, of course, you know, like, oh,
you're just always going to be half a step away
getting into a political disorder.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Is that even when I talk to my aunt. You
know about ice, and you know how tragic it is
and what's going on is it? She still legitimately thinks
that they're only picking up bad people, and it's like,
I can't spend that much time on it, and I don't.
But I'm just like, yeah, that's not true. Do your research, right,
That's all I really say, because I don't want to
get into a debate about it. I'm just like, yeah, okay,
(33:54):
that's fine. If that's what you think. That's not the truth.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Now, I think Frendy Wendy, Right, we're going to play
a game of would you rather?
Speaker 5 (34:04):
We are going to play a game of would you rather?
And here is your first question. Would you rather get
food poisoning from the turkey or emotional poisoning from your family?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, emotional poisoning is going to happen regardless. Yeah, and
it's with emotional poisoning.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, and it's and it's long chart Like we've already
learned how to deal with it. Right, We're on the meds.
We we rage screaming a pillows and we've got this podcast.
We can bitch about them without saying their names, so
that they think it might be one of our friends.
But really we're talking about you know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Then you take a second SSRI call it a day.
Food poisoning, Yeah, God, its depending on how bad it is.
Now you've like half of your vacation has been spent
in the fetal.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, or in the bathroom, which could be a plus
if you want to get away from them, and you're like, well,
it's coming out of bull fence, stay away from Actually
it's a plus.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It might be a plus, might be a plus, and
it might be the one you go for. You might
got a pro poisoning you have gotten out, yes, and
then you also get sympathy. I agree, but the changing
my answer good.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You've got a prep you've got to bring a book
in your in your bag, you've got to bring the iPad,
bring a book. Why not?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Because I've got pips. That's a callback.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
She's got pips. Call back. Look at the other episodes. Next.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Would you rather drive twelve hours in silence with your
sibling who hates you? Or sing Christmas Carols with your
mom's new boyfriend named Randy.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Randy and Iron getting down with long time of Carol
of the Bell we are let's freaking go Randy. That's
not even who wants to sit in silence with someone
they don't like for twelve hours?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I sen Christmas Carols with my mom's new boyfriend last
Christmas at the nursing home.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Was it fun?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
And it was lovely?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Is that even an option? Is it just because his
name's Randy and we feel a certain way about it?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Just prod we love? She's gonna own it?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Would you wrap?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Would you?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
This one's for you, ebar. Would you rather your twins
scream on a plane or your mom screams at TSA?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Oh again, the second one just happened. I think I
think TSA mom, and you're you, You go that way,
you're not involved. You're like, this is not my DNA.
I mean it is, but then you can go listen.
I kind of don't.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
My mom's screaming at TSA is another Tuesday?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I just am not traveling with my twins, which is
also what you just described inevitable.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Right, So I'm I'm feeling so easy.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The only thing that was a wild card was the
food poisoning.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, that was that was a wild card. I mean,
for me, my mom's dead, so she's not gonna be
yelling at TSA. But let's pretend I'm with another mom
and I go, go ahead, mom uh and she starts yelling,
I'm just gonna I will literally put my put my
AirPods in, listen to music, and if she she looks
(37:00):
at me to go, are you seeing this, I'm just
gonna go. I don't know, so she is. I'm so
sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You need to do is like, spend enough time with
a hyper republican and it will happen, and then you'll.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Be prepared for how to I'll be prepped. Okay, here's
the last one.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Here's the last one. I think this one is easy.
Would you rather drive cross country with your ex or
fly next to someone who is live streaming their emotional breakdown?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Are you kidding? That's the best thing that would have
happened to me. Oh my dear, I want to be
involved in somebody's emotional breakdown.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
The material, the relatability I am. Now they're live streaming
on the plane.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
This is aman because now I'm focusing on them instead
of the pending turbulence.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That literally its a little bit free.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Sends me into like, yeah, but we don't fly together
because she she would go yeah, and I would had
had and the knees and they do a lot of breathing.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And then I try to flag down every start of
to be like, hey, do you know how long it's
gonna last? Hey, do you know how long it's gonna last? Hey?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Can you ask the pilot how long it's gonna last?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Oh? God, I love it? Yeah. I mean, for me,
emotional breakdown on a plane would literally be one of
the best shows I have been able to be near
for a long time. Goal this is gold gold Well.
I mean I think that was a lot of fun.
We got to close out. We we really hoped that
you had fun with us, and we hope we use
(38:46):
this you use this as an escape from the family
or maybe not. Maybe maybe And I know we said
you shouldn't do this. You said it last time. You're
very against when someone says, listen to this, right, you
want to listen to it now and they show it
to the whole group, and the whole group is like,
we didn't sign up for this, But maybe we encourage
people that they maybe just start playing the rage pod
(39:09):
over the stereo system with the whole family. Just just
let them get.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Into it, and what I'm not into it's not that.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Let them get not into someone forcing their own work upon.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
A group in the moment, because it's not their own work.
It's not oh yeah, we don't know these girls.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, play would be as if if we were there,
then it would be uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It would be it would be So we're not going
to do that if we're there, but we would love
for you to just just hype it, maybe accidentally pipe
it through and just go, oh god, you know, I
don't know you're Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
They're your speakers. There's your pa for the way you
have in your residential.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Pump it and that way we get the whole family
on board, the whole fam the whole family. We love it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
We got to get out of action, all right, Love
you guys, We love your boss on all the socials.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You gotta follow the rage pod. Yeah, do it everywhere. Okay, Bye,
Something that I've noticed, Yeah, from looking at our footage. Yeah,
I really like when we do the Rage Hotline because
I get to put headphones on because anyone that knows
me knows I have a small head.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh so you love the head they make you look.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Bigger because it gives it gives me more head real estate.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like when I was in college, I had my boyfriend,
like we would joke that I was Beetlejuice, but only
in the waiting.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Room totally when the head shrinks.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So I was looking at the footage and I was like,
maybe I do headphones.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The whole time. You know what I thought of right
now is Beaker.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I love Beaker.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
He's so great. He's just basically a tiny head.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Right No, yeah, yeah, I think my sister called me
Beaker at one point.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
She did. Yeah, that's so funny. I've never looked at
you and been like tiny head. Like never ever in
my life have I ever thought that. It's so weird
that you just mentioned it. And now I'm just gonna
be like, I guess Beetlejuice in the waiting room yep. Yeah,
unfortunately you do not look like that. But okay, I'm
going to roll with it, but I do.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
This is a good no. I need to go as
Beetle Juice in the waiting room for Halloween one. Yet
you sure can, m M.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I did her makeup really well, making her look like.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well trendy wendy fucking she hated. She wanted me to leave,
like she hated it so much that my company wasn't
going to outweigh how much she hated she might get
away from the costume.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, it was so great, so fun.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Tear did an unbelievable job on the makeup. I did
good kids, and then I have very like gross like
spindly hands, so that really helped to Yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
The photo, I still it's the same head, spindley hands,
or of the f you said, don't notice it. I am, though, however, excited. Well,
if I'm saying this, can I say it? If we're
doing Thanksgiving, well we're going before Thanksgiving to enchant I
can mention it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, at some point when you see this episode, we
will have gone to this event called enchanted.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, we will. It's actually called en chant La. And
they were very specific in email erica, do not call it.
You know why?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know why?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Because the movie.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
No, because what because disconso calls it and enchanted it
and they're.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Like the location, oh my moly, that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It could be like a brand infringement, like a trade.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Totally totally, so it's just enchant But anyway, they got
a whole light up maze and I'm just hoping to
get lost in it.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And yes, I do hope that. And they don't have
a skating rink. They have a skating trail. Yeah, so
it's like the Eazy River oh of skating, right, it's
a trail. It's a trail.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
On the advertisement it says real ice, yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Eric was very excited about. And then she noted after
I said, by the way, I got a ice skating too,
and she goes, oh, I just looked it up. It's
real ice. I'm going to bring my skates. And I
was like, oh god, we're gonna walk in and I'd
be like, yeah, hi, you know these are my guests,
and I got the codes for she's bringing in her
(03:32):
own skates? Is that okay? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's Kanya Harding is He is her absolute hero? Just
so we know, so everyone should be on high alerts.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't even know they're gonna be like, what is
in this? It's in my brain. I imagine just a
bowling bag, but it's bright pink, it's got a ribbon,
and it's just I should have your ice your ice
skates that you haven't worn for a while, but you're
gonna kill it. It's gonna be great. Well, not to mention,
but I am going to be embarrassed that you brought them.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Ice skates are like every woman should have a pair
of ice skates.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
No, Erica, you shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Absolutely not, Thank.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You, Wendy.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What what what You don't want a taser or mace?
You have ice skates?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
No one's no?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Oh as a weapon?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Shoulder done support the big big Vani. You're right, jular?
What is it not? The jugular?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, but there's like a order whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Just cut the neck their freaking throat. You cut the neck.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Done deal and here and there you're still going to
have your skates, like there's there's multi purpose. You can
still then skate on that trail.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You don't know if I'd be skating if there was
If there was you know, bloodstop on the material, but
off the blade it's coming off. Oh yeah, what color
your skates they're white state.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
If it's a clean slice, it's only going on the
blade because there's enough real estate between the bottom of
the blade where the sharp part is and where the
boots starts.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I don't know about it because listen, when we slice
the throat, Okay, I got you, I got you, I
got you. It's coming out and it's getting all my shoe.
Now here's what we do. We rotate. We paint a
red heart, and we pretend like you don't need to
do that.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Why not, you don't need to do that because reveal
I was a skater. Yeah, we had like you have
paint because you gotta. You gotta paint your skates when
they get scuffed. Yeah, because everyone's real like.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And over the blood.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You just paint right over the blood. You paint right
over the blood.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Isn't gonna look pink like.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, no, no, no, they've got the real shit. It's
basically like think white out.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But fork it's it's, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You're getting real like Painter's grade. No one's seeing that really.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's just fantastic and it's great for whatever court case
you get.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, honestly, this is the best blitter weapon.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Because here's what we're going to have to do.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Though.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
If I want to have the ice skates in the house,
I really got to start getting receipts going to ice
skating rinks otherwise so that if I do use.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It as her weapon, I'll drop what I'm doing. A.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, you will, that's right. They're like, oh, she actually
does go ice skating. We don't need to look at
these places.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, we don't need to look at you know. Okay,
this is I love this and I think the paint
is so thick that even if they did look at
the boots, they wouldn't be able to detect it. It would
be gone. It's so far and it's that good of paint.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow, okay, sponge.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm going to need that for my doc. Martin's my wife.
Oh it would be great for green, but they don't
have green in those No.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
No, no, I got you, I got you. No one
cares about this conversation anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, we need to we need to move on. Let's
drop in.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We are going to be talking about expectation rage at
the holidays, which is great because Thanksgiving is upon us.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Emotionally eating under the table is what she called it. Yes, tortillado,
that's one of us.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Are stole away right under the table. Yeah, like a
little under the table gnome.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Find out who it is later who it is and
what else you're going to do, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And then we are going to do a game of
would you rather? Which if you've ever played this game before,
we all know it. Just everyone ends up in the toilet, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Which is you know, sometimes you want to be there. Honestly,
it's a good private.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Time mentally in the toilet, maybe even physically.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah. Okay, well let's do it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Let's drop in. This is the Rage Pod where we
rage against the serene.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And all the things in between. I am with Ebar.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I am with Tara Erickson. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Let's get at it. So, yeah, we wrote a couple
things down, I mean basically for this, like the Great
Thanksgiving meltdown, what we have, which I think everybody else has,
is expectation rage.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Of course. I mean, I think expectations is what often
leads to rage in most situations, right, because you get
your hopes up, you think something's going to be different
than it is, and then you feel blindsided and disappointed
when it's not. However that ends up manifesting itself. It
is a it's a form of rage, whether you end
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up getting really sad about it or you get really
angry and explosive about it.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And you wrote in this quote that says things evolve
over time, even if you don't want them to, even
if you fight it, everything changes. That's why Brooke standar
for the death of og Thanksgiving, which is very very true,
right you you really do. I think as you get older,
things change so drastically from that really like fun, loving, wondery.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Like innocence, a rational vibe, tenderhearted.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, and then it justs like straight down the shitter
yahkind of.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well it's just you know, okay, things change obviously. Yeah,
you can count the one thing you can count on,
life is changed. Yeah, at some point you're going to
experience loss. It doesn't have to just be the loss
of a person. It could be the loss of a relationship.
It could be the loss of a house, it could
be the loss of you know, the family tradition where
like you no longer meet with the same family members.
(09:21):
So that's a loss of what you once knew that
holiday o GI right, So and that that blog that
she wrote, I highly recommend reading because she gets really
personal with all the changes in her life. Like it
starts with when she no longer gets to celebrate with
her sister because they get married, and then she's with
her in laws, and then at some point she gets
a divorce, and then she loses her father. Like all
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of these things greatly impact what the tradition is going
to be or what the get together is going to
be with the dynamics are going to.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Be, oh for sure, Like Miabilita and my mom raised me.
Meabilita died maybe twelve maybe thirteen years ago, and my
mom died I think about seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And just so people know, your Ebilita was not your
actual blood grandmother, right, Yeah she was, Oh she was.
I thought one time maybe I was drunk. I thought
you said she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I thought it was. She was definitely was, OK. Our
fingers are exactly the same some of the facial structures
like Meabalita. But the Meablita and my mom were like
best friends. And then it so it was like us
three plus my aunt plus extended family.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So you did have extended family. It wasn't just typically
the three or four of you correct, correct.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Because then the extended family would would come in, we'd
hang out. That was like og Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And how did you like? Did you like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I loved it because then I would always look forward
to it and going to miabalitas and then like cooking
all the things, baking cookies. It would mainly just be
always at my Grandma's and we would just hang out
and do stuff. And that was a lot of fun
until she died. And then a few years after my
mom died and then everything changed. I don't go back
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to Vegas anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, first of all, okay, like rolling it back a minute,
so he are there are there specific dishes that you
remember that like take you back there?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh? Yeah, I think it was mainly cook baking cookies.
I would always bake cookies.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But then were they special, like were they specific to
the holiday or.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I think it was just fun. I like to cut
them out, sugar cookies and make a turkey and then
decorate it. It was like a lot of decorating. It
was on brandy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, oatmeal cookies, stuff
like that. Nothing like too crazy, except I would help
me Abelita with the chili. We would still have beans
and chili, and she'd make hand handmade tortillas, so it
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was still a little bit different. We would always we'd
still have a turkey and stuff and all that, but
it was still we would have handmade tortillas and stuff
like that. And I do very I remember that that
I would hide under the table when I was little.
I'd eat the dough and me I would need to
be like I Kim with chutcha. You don't eat too
much of that. You're gonna get a stomach age. So
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those memories I have.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But so and so when you would hang like would
extended family come over just for like a few hours
during the day, or would like it be for a
longer like overnight.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was it was like probably for a couple of days,
like they'd come on that day, but then there would
be plans probably the next day to also hang out. Right,
they're just like around.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So I guess what's interesting to me about this? And
this could apply to like anyone because we talk about,
you know now, how there's you know, you kind of
people dread going to Thanksgiving, like oh I got to
talk to this uncle or wright cousin or whatever. But
like do you think there were members of your extended
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family that were older than you that had that feeling
back then, but maybe you just weren't aware of it
or was it just different, Like is this just what
happens with families, because we're talking about how change is
inevitable and it's not like any of us are in
the first generation where there's loss or divorce or you know,
changes in family.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah. Oh, I'm sure that happened, but mainly because I
mean my one cousin he was on heroin. My uncle
was probably there and on drugs.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
There we go, okay, And it was.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Really just like my aunt, the uh my one cousin
who and her mom who were like solid and obviously
my mom.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Like raior, Like it was like that those that core
group was what, like you really felt a kinship on
that holiday with Yeah, that you have positive memories.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, and there's saw I'm like sure with my uncles
when they they're not like coming in blasted high, but they.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Just on heroin.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
They were high. Yeah, let's face it. And so yeah,
it was you know that changes, things change and when
they die and then I'm I'm like cool, I'm an
only child, so now I don't have any of that,
there are going to be some people are looking at
me and like, oh, I'm jealous, because then you can
always have a friends giving. But then again things still
in that regard. Things change. Things change because I'm now
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of the age where all of my friends are married
off where they have like a family, and so it
can still seem very solo or lonely when you think
about it, of like, well, I don't have any really
Thanksgiving plans, but uh, I mean my aunt could come
out here. But anyway, I mean, how's of you? Because
I know you lost your dad, so it's probably things
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for you. You know, that also changes.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What's interesting is that too, like we hadn't met each
other and we lost our you lost your mom and
I lost my dad with them, like wasn't it like
six months? Yeah, just like it's just so interesting yep,
when you meet people. Thanksgiving was always more of the
chill holiday for our family because Christmas all of our
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family got together.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So that's where like the juices yeah yeah, yeah, So
Thanksgiving like we would sometimes get together with usually with
my dad's sister and her husband and then sometimes their
kids are our cousins on that side. Yeah, I mean, honestly,
it was kind of vanilla, like we had a good
time to play games. Football was on, like love it.
(15:19):
There's a kind of like not a lot of report.
So of course when my dad died, yeah, it was
a big like Thanksgiving was a lot more like kind
of solemn, like it was just like because my mom
was so grief stricken because it was an unexpected death.
So it was a lot of like, Okay, we're gonna
get together for Thanksgiving and we're kind of just going
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to go through the motions and sit here and check
in and be like, how are you doing? But it's
you know, I feel like there could be almost a
happier time of doing that on a day where it
wasn't so like loaded with this like connection to like, oh,
holidays mean family, and so when you've lost family, there's
such a spot versus like, yeah, what if we got
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that same group of people together for a dinner two
weeks later, would it be even with having lost my dad?
Would it have been as sad? And that's part of
some of the expectation, like the emotional expectation and the
weight that we put on the on this holiday and
other holidays. Of course, right but yeah, I mean, and
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then I have the like just like certain fun memories
of like coming back on that. You know, Wendy and
I have talked about this that Wednesday night when you
were younger and you'd go out with your your friends
from like let's say it's high.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
School from high school yea, And like I always I
was always like, oh, I really want to go out,
but I don't want to disappoint my mom by like
leaving and like her feeling like, oh I just got
home from college and now I'm ditching her to go
out with my friends. That was always like some of
my like emotional conflict, like big fucking Deale.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
People have to play with a lot more than that. Yeah,
but that's like that was like the fun of the
which that changes too, Like that that has an expiration date,
like oh, for sure, you're not you're not hearing your sixties,
Like hey, are we going to get together with our
high school friends and see.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What like no, you know, you're not even in your
miss and see what like no, you're not.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So that has you know, that's temporal too, But what
about you, Freddy, Wendy.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
I think my Thanksgiving definitely has evolved over the years
growing up, you know, my our family was really small,
and then after my parents got divorced. I remember one
Thanksgiving where it sounded a lot like yours, where we
were just going through the motions. It was me, my mom,
and my brother and we're all just kind of sitting
there like, eh, real, hey that's up. Like it just
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was so awful. And then I think as I became
an adult and discovered friends, giving very you know, early
on in my twenties was so fun. I was like,
this really changes everything. And then when I had my
own family, you know what that meant, and then going
through a divorce of my own, but being so grateful
that my ex and I always said, no one's going
(18:06):
to be alone on the holidays, We're always going to
be so we we've always celebrated together, and now we
always have a bunch of friends that come. So my
Thanksgiving has definitely evolved into a much better, unner type
of thing. But there is that expectation rage where there
are sometimes people in my circle or my family that'll
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be like, what's the plan for Thanksgiving? And I feel
like the expectation is on me to host, where I'm like, yeah,
why do I have to host every time, like you host,
so that kind of can make me rage for sure.
And this year, I'm so busy. I don't even think
I think we're just gonna call in take out. I
think we're gonna really.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
There's really phon Like there's nothing wrong with any of it.
I actually I'm a big proponent of, like, if you
can make it work, do the off holiday celebration, because
it is like the world is traveling at the same time,
and like everyone's like racing at work to like get
their shit done, and you can feel that stress like
(19:06):
with the people that you're working with. Like let's say
you're you know, you got to call with another company
or you got to call with a client. It's like, oh, yeah,
I'm just trying to get everything done before we before
we leave.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Like imagine if you took some of that stress off
and then you're just like, oh, yeah, my family's getting
together and it's just like you know, the first week
of December or like the second week in September.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, and you're like, oh, that's our Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The only the only downfall with that is that it's
so unfortunate because you're not going to look your boss
isn't going to look down upon you about being going
to Thanksgiving because now everyone's doing it right. And then
you're like, now you if you have a psycho job
and they're like, what the fuck are you leaving in
the first week in December. That's the only pull away
(19:50):
from that. I do agree, because you're like, let's put
less pressure on this. But then I'm like, well, why
can't we just put less pressure on it on Thanksgiving?
If there's a way. I don't think there really is,
but if it's just like, hey, it's gonna be Thanksgiving,
but can we not treat it? Yeah, like the whole
fucking thing. Can we just go We're gonna have dinner,
you guys, bring it just to dinner.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We're gonna get and maybe maybe all forced Tara to
play a game, you know what I mean, And that's
and then that's fun.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We always play games so fun, Chinese Checkers, we play
scrab but we would play the okay, now it's coming
out the family, But don't play those games. Play those games.
I don't she don't play pictionary. Don't she don't like
Chinese Checkers?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well you never offered, Well, I don't have checker me
pictionary me, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Okay, we gotta buy it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But yeah, I mean obviously for a lot of people too,
it's like they don't get the time off, like that's
when they know that they get time off. But I'm
just saying like whatever to your point, Like I do
know people that do off holiday and I'm like, I'm
so jealousy where they do it, like maybe a week later,
oh for sure. But because think about it, Halloween, people
feel stress of Halloween. But it's not the same. Imagine
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if it's just like that, because I feel like sometimes
friends giving is kind of the same idea of like, oh, yeah,
come join us, like come stay whatever, like right, drop in,
drop out, and like it could be that way with family,
but there's just there's so much emotional pent up rage
and sadness and love and the conflict that comes with
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family and.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The passive aggressiveness and the person who comes up and
is like, oh, you're doing it that way.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You're doing it, which is which is why the fuck
are you doing it that way?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh my god, and then it's just it's rage for
all all over again. They don't even realize it because
family is so comfortable around one another that it's like
you're getting shit from all angles and they don't even
realize it's shit. It's just well. And that's getting.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Into like what your expectation of families, right, Like we
talk about expects expectation rage with this holiday, but it's
also about like do you need your child to do
these certain things to feel okay about? Like do you
need them to have the right job, Do you need
them to be with the right person or not be
with a person, or live in this city or live
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near you, And all of that stuff is gonna come
up at that holiday because that's when you see them.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So it's really you shouldn't even need it anyway, Just
fucking let it go. How to go eighteen and out
of your house, Let the person become a person without
you being involved. Yeah, sure, you birth them out of
your reagina. I don't care. It's not an excuse for
you to control that person's life.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And whether let go, whether it's a mother or a child,
an adopted parent, Like, it doesn't have to be someone
that birth, like it can also just be it can
be almost like family in general, Like.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Family too shows like if you get.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Close enough where you're like, yeah, I can't wait for
Thanksgiving next year when we bring up what happened at
that dinner in February, you know what I mean, Like, well,
the last time they got together, this is what went down. Like,
who's excited about that? That's just like a whole lot
of anxiety.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
There is something that happens too when you get back
with your family and everybody regresses into the roles that
they had when they were all living. Is that in
that family unit? So we actually reached out to doctor
Nicole and we asked her what is that? What is
this all about? And she said, the why and how
it happens is related to our brain patterns, awareness and peeling,
(23:31):
the onion of being an autonomous being that longs to
be in connection with family and community. Our family pushes
our buttons because they built them. The wiring and pattering
of who we are is partially made of our genetic
nature and part of our environment that includes our family,
and how those dynamics can be very complicated.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, I love that. And it's also like, you know,
when you're being forced Also, let's pretend that you know,
people were like, let's go around table and say what
we're being grateful for you know, that could be a
button for somebody, because being forced to be grateful can
cause resentment.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, you know, I we're like, I'm not I'm pretty
sad like what I'm saying. That was what their answer was, Like, guys,
I just don't have it this year. I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I'm sad, and you know what, I would go, Thank God?
Can you know up me too? That's fine? Uh great,
let's let's talk about it or not talk about it,
let's have a shot, yeah, move on.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, or also yeah, like what do you need from us?
Do you want to talk about it? This is a
great time for us to talk about it because we
don't always get to like come together in person and
be a support system. And if it means like you
don't want to talk about it, that's cool, but just
know that you can, right And exactly the problem is
people hold on to shit. They're holding onto their own stuff,
but like their own you know, resentment from unresolved issues
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or like not being able to like get past like
certain decisions that their family members made right, you know,
And that's what whole people back from just having a
great dinner.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Sixty three percent of Americans, they report like that their
stress is so over the top for a Thanksgiving with
Thanksgiving anxiety sixty three percent just of all of it
money financing, seeing family. It just causes anxiety, I'm sure,
like most holidays, but it's just it's when you look
at it like that, you're like a lot of people
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are walking into a home that they grew up in,
or maybe not, or just walking in somewhere and going.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
All right, all right, we can do we can do
this for whatever many is. Keep together, we can do it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Don't have bitch resting face, Just smile.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Just don't avoiding topics.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Grin in fucking barge.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
You've reached the rage hotline. Please leave us a message.
The email says, I'm raging right now about this upcoming Thanksgiving,
a Thanksgiving I just cannot attend. Guessing I'm not alone
in this. Sorry, this isn't a funny story, but I
am pissed. Okay, my brother and his wife are hosting
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Thanksgiving at their home this year, and I am more
than disappointed that I can't go. While both my brother
and sister in law are liberal Democrats. My sister in
law's sister, let's call her Leslie because that's her name.
She is an educated woman who grew up in a
loving hippie dippy and on closer look, probably has been
out of her mind for decades. And her father, a
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waspy bloated New ENGLANDA both voted for Trump last year.
It took everything in my power to behave myself and
I did. I showed up no taco politics, fake smiled
my way through dinner this year. Between the Gestapo of Ice,
the continued fraying of our democracy, which I don't even
think we live in anymore, and the daily health fire,
I cannot sit there quietly. I am raging. I am
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pissed that her family takes precedent over mine and I
won't get to spend the holiday with my mom, my brother,
or my niece and nephew because I refuse to sit
down with people who voted for this. I actually had
to block Leslie from my Instagram because I want to
go off on that girl in the biggest way. It's
not like her vote made the difference, It's that she
is a symbol of what a shit show this all is.
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I guess I can be thankful this year that I
won't have to sit down with these Trump voting piece
of shit, but rage, piece of people, but raging that
I can't spend Thanksgiving with my family. Thanks for letting
me vent. Leslie is her sister, she said, Leslie is
the sister in law.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Sister in law, and it's Leslie, but it's less less. Yeah,
that made me laugh so hard.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So we'll just call her Leslie because that's her name.
Oh my god, Oh no, I mean I so resonate
with this. I obviously have Trump voters in my family
and and hearing that something that it made me I
bet Trump voters, Like yeah, but you know, four years,
we've had four Thanksgivings with Biden. Oh, we didn't say
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we weren't coming to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Well, we did a poll on our Instagram and we
asked would politics keep you away from doing your Thanksgiving
this year? And it was fifty to fifty fifty people
said fifty percent said that they would still attend, fifty
percent said they didn't. And we also did a call
out on our TikTok and we got a bunch of
comments asking that question, and this is what people had
(28:25):
to say. That is usually a one side adventure. Skip
Rannon said, Nope, Callie Jupiter said before. Recently, I would
have told people to grow up and get through the holiday,
because it isn't difficult to be cordial for a few hours.
But in this political climate, I'd say, fuck it, do friendsgiving.
It's not worth it, especially if you're a marginalized person
and you have chronically online relatives.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
So I feel like that's the thing though, like be
cordial for a couple of hours. But for some people
that's like their whole holiday, right, know.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's like you say, it's not a couple of hours.
It's like unless the people live down the street right right, and.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
You're you're landing at a house on a on a
Thursday morning, you plan to be there the whole weekend.
It's a good four days. Yeah, sure, you're gonna, you know,
smile and fake your way through the dinner. They'll last
for two hours, but you have to be around these
people exactly exactly. You're gonna get shit if you just
show up and you just dinner. If you can do
that and then leave and fuck off, great, But most
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people can't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Noose cavils are there for days, and so it's like,
oh my god, dinner was like white, like emotionally white
knuckling to get through. And I have a whole other
day and a half before I get on a plane, Like, yep,
this is.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
My vaca, and I spend one thousand dollars on it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I'm so glad. I've been working sixty hour weeks for this. Ample.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Amber Williamson five to nine one said be an adult
and put the political bs aside for one day. My
family drops their phones off at the door when they
arrive so that we can spend the doorable with it.
Everyone on their phones surprised how nice it actually is.
I actually really like that too.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's very cute. I love that it's like Key's the
ball phone in the I think.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's two separate issues. Though I think that the phones
at the door is a great idea, for sure, I
don't think that that necessarily in every family ameliorates the issue.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Of political division.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Two separate things too, Yeah, Caitlyn says hard pass. Yes,
maybe three elections ago, now exactly everything is filled with hate.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I sent my aunt the email from our anonymous person
who talked about Leslie, and she was like, fuck this,
I'm not going right right right, I can't stand this.
I'm not doing this again. And my aunt is Trumper,
and I was like, let me send her this email
read and I was like, God, I love this, you feel,
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tell me how it makes you feel. Please tend me
a voice moo back, and she did, Oh my god,
let's put her headphones on so you listen to it. Oh,
I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait, can't wait?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What she and this is what can wait?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Okay. It legitimately makes me sad the situation between Leslie
and your sister in law or whatever that is. It's
a yeah, a liberal, I like, get too heated over
that kind of thing. But it just makes me sad
that you'd let the politics rule over a family gathering,
(31:30):
because it's, yeah, it should be a time to come together.
And I mean, it's nice to be around like minded
people with the same views and values, but you're not
always going to have that luxury and I certainly don't,
and so it's best to focus on similarities than differences
(31:54):
and come together anyways and try to fight commonalities.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, Levia, I mean you at the end, Oh my god.
So I think the issue is that I am without
getting into like a full on political discussion, because I
hear this a lot from Trump voters, because the politics
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outside of you know, outside of money, which seemed to
be the biggest effect to most Trump voters, Like what
is happening? Like it's easy to say, like, oh, I
can set aside politics because your job isn't being taken away,
your family isn't being deported. Like politics is directly affecting
(32:43):
people's lives in an immediate way, for sure, And so
I can see how on the other side someone might
say like, oh, but it's just politics. But politics isn't
just politics for people right now. It's way more severe
than that. Yeah, you know. And so imagine going into
a dinner and like these are things, like these are
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the big things that are happening in your life. And
when you go to a family dinner, like that's a
normal thing to be like, Hey, what's going on in
your life?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh well, my.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Cousin just got to put a country the other day.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
They don't that.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
They're not even from, Like it would be weird not
to talk about that. Yeah, of course, you know, like, oh,
you're just always going to be half a step away
getting into a political disorder.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Is that even when I talk to my aunt. You
know about ice, and you know how tragic it is
and what's going on is it? She still legitimately thinks
that they're only picking up bad people, and it's like,
I can't spend that much time on it, and I don't.
But I'm just like, yeah, that's not true. Do your research, right,
That's all I really say, because I don't want to
get into a debate about it. I'm just like, yeah, okay,
(33:54):
that's fine. If that's what you think. That's not the truth.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Now, I think Frendy Wendy, Right, we're going to play
a game of would you rather?
Speaker 5 (34:04):
We are going to play a game of would you rather?
And here is your first question. Would you rather get
food poisoning from the turkey or emotional poisoning from your family?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, emotional poisoning is going to happen regardless. Yeah, and
it's with emotional poisoning.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, and it's and it's long chart Like we've already
learned how to deal with it. Right, We're on the meds.
We we rage screaming a pillows and we've got this podcast.
We can bitch about them without saying their names, so
that they think it might be one of our friends.
But really we're talking about you know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Then you take a second SSRI call it a day.
Food poisoning, Yeah, God, its depending on how bad it is.
Now you've like half of your vacation has been spent
in the fetal.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, or in the bathroom, which could be a plus
if you want to get away from them, and you're like, well,
it's coming out of bull fence, stay away from Actually
it's a plus.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It might be a plus, might be a plus, and
it might be the one you go for. You might
got a pro poisoning you have gotten out, yes, and
then you also get sympathy. I agree, but the changing
my answer good.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You've got a prep you've got to bring a book
in your in your bag, you've got to bring the iPad,
bring a book. Why not?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Because I've got pips. That's a callback.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
She's got pips. Call back. Look at the other episodes. Next.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Would you rather drive twelve hours in silence with your
sibling who hates you? Or sing Christmas Carols with your
mom's new boyfriend named Randy.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Randy and Iron getting down with long time of Carol
of the Bell we are let's freaking go Randy. That's
not even who wants to sit in silence with someone
they don't like for twelve hours?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I sen Christmas Carols with my mom's new boyfriend last
Christmas at the nursing home.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Was it fun?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
And it was lovely?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Is that even an option? Is it just because his
name's Randy and we feel a certain way about it?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Just prod we love? She's gonna own it?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Would you wrap?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Would you?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
This one's for you, ebar. Would you rather your twins
scream on a plane or your mom screams at TSA?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Oh again, the second one just happened. I think I
think TSA mom, and you're you, You go that way,
you're not involved. You're like, this is not my DNA.
I mean it is, but then you can go listen.
I kind of don't.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
My mom's screaming at TSA is another Tuesday?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I just am not traveling with my twins, which is
also what you just described inevitable.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Right, So I'm I'm feeling so easy.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The only thing that was a wild card was the
food poisoning.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, that was that was a wild card. I mean,
for me, my mom's dead, so she's not gonna be
yelling at TSA. But let's pretend I'm with another mom
and I go, go ahead, mom uh and she starts yelling,
I'm just gonna I will literally put my put my
AirPods in, listen to music, and if she she looks
(37:00):
at me to go, are you seeing this, I'm just
gonna go. I don't know, so she is. I'm so
sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You need to do is like, spend enough time with
a hyper republican and it will happen, and then you'll.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Be prepared for how to I'll be prepped. Okay, here's
the last one.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Here's the last one. I think this one is easy.
Would you rather drive cross country with your ex or
fly next to someone who is live streaming their emotional breakdown?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Are you kidding? That's the best thing that would have
happened to me. Oh my dear, I want to be
involved in somebody's emotional breakdown.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
The material, the relatability I am. Now they're live streaming
on the plane.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
This is aman because now I'm focusing on them instead
of the pending turbulence.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That literally its a little bit free.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Sends me into like, yeah, but we don't fly together
because she she would go yeah, and I would had
had and the knees and they do a lot of breathing.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And then I try to flag down every start of
to be like, hey, do you know how long it's
gonna last? Hey, do you know how long it's gonna last? Hey?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Can you ask the pilot how long it's gonna last?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Oh? God, I love it? Yeah. I mean, for me,
emotional breakdown on a plane would literally be one of
the best shows I have been able to be near
for a long time. Goal this is gold gold Well.
I mean I think that was a lot of fun.
We got to close out. We we really hoped that
you had fun with us, and we hope we use
(38:46):
this you use this as an escape from the family
or maybe not. Maybe maybe And I know we said
you shouldn't do this. You said it last time. You're
very against when someone says, listen to this, right, you
want to listen to it now and they show it
to the whole group, and the whole group is like,
we didn't sign up for this, But maybe we encourage
people that they maybe just start playing the rage pod
(39:09):
over the stereo system with the whole family. Just just
let them get.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Into it, and what I'm not into it's not that.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Let them get not into someone forcing their own work upon.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
A group in the moment, because it's not their own work.
It's not oh yeah, we don't know these girls.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, play would be as if if we were there,
then it would be uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It would be it would be So we're not going
to do that if we're there, but we would love
for you to just just hype it, maybe accidentally pipe
it through and just go, oh god, you know, I
don't know you're Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
They're your speakers. There's your pa for the way you
have in your residential.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Pump it and that way we get the whole family
on board, the whole fam the whole family. We love it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
We got to get out of action, all right, Love
you guys, We love your boss on all the socials.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You gotta follow the rage pod. Yeah, do it everywhere. Okay, Bye,
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