December 31, 2025 • 53 mins
This week on The Upload, Brooke Taylor and Pastor Mark Evans sit down with up-and-coming Country Christian artist Brennley Brown for a powerful, honest conversation about faith, calling, and the cost of obedience.
From singing on her family’s ranch in Apple Valley, California, to becoming the youngest highest-charting finalist on The Voice, Brennley’s journey has been marked by talent, opportunity, and an unwavering love for Jesus. But as her platform has grown, so has the resistance — even from people closest to her. Brennley opens up about how being bold about her faith has, at times, held her back in the music industry, and how she’s been told she may never “make it” because she refuses to water down her beliefs.
Brennley shares how her relationship with God didn’t begin in church, but in her bedroom at age 13, during her mom’s battle with life-threatening Cardiac Lyme Disease. One night with a Bible changed everything — setting her on a path of faith she’s never turned away from. She also dives into the importance of spiritual community, including a small group she participates in by phone with other women committed to staying in the Word together.
The conversation turns to spiritual warfare, including the inspiration behind her song “Get Behind Me,” rooted in Matthew 16 when Jesus rebukes Peter for standing in the way of God’s purpose. Brennley, Brooke, and Mark unpack what it looks like to discern God’s voice, resist distraction, and stay faithful when obedience feels costly.
This episode is for anyone who’s felt pressure to compromise, silence their faith, or choose comfort over calling — and a reminder that God’s path is always worth it.
🎧 Listen in to hear Brennley’s testimony, her heart for ministry, and why standing firm in faith matters more than ever.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Brindley Brown, and I've been told in before meetings,
we just don't know if you're going to progress in
your career because you're.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So bold about your faith.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, can you kind of just tone that God? Talk
down that hit differently?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We okay with that. Guns out of a houses this.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Morning back and this is the upload.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Brendley Brown is here with us on the upload. I'm
Brick Taylor Mark Evans, and I gotta say we were
just talking about how we met a little over a
year ago at this writer's round. It's like basically where
we just have a bunch of females on stage celebrating
women in country music and women in songwriting and all
the things. And you got up on stage and you
(00:41):
were just telling a story I think about your cousin,
and I was just like, I need to chat with her.
Like it was just like this this all moment where
I was like, I feel like there's a story that
I just want to hear. And following you on social
media obviously had my daughter and then kind of disappeared
for a little while, but we hear our back of
our back. It has been born, and I'm excited to
(01:02):
chat with you about your story and kind of where
everything began for you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yes, well, it's so sweet that we connected there and
I remember you sharing just your vision for this, and
so it's really special to be here and be able
to like see it come to life.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So I'm grateful to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, I got to say, we like to start off
the podcast just kind of talking about our faith. And
if somebody was to ask you, you know, what is
your faith, what do you believe in? How would you
answer them?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh? Man, well, I love that you start with that question.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And I just honestly was praying on the way over
here and just thanking the Lord because I remember what
you shared with me that writer's around just your vision
for this, and I think something like this is so needed,
especially in our industry, where we're able to have a
space to talk about our faith and to talk about
the Lord. So I'm really grateful for that so first
(01:49):
and foremost. But man, my faith is everything to me.
It's it's you know, I met Jesus when I was
thirteen years old, and he changed my life and so
thankful to know him. You know, I'm still growing and
learning in my faith every day, but I would be
nothing without my Savior.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
So I love that you're getting emotional talking about that,
because it's like going down no I already. Me and
one of my girlfriends sometimes will just be having a
conversation and she's just like, man, isn't God so good?
And she'll start crying and then I'm starting to cry,
and then it's just like it's this big spiral downhill
in the best way, the.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Same we're here. It's like, Lauren's like, are you crying again?
I'm like, it's the Holy Spirit. It's like I feel
God Like, it's not it's not really that emotional, but
it's it's sensitivity to the presence of God. And I
think that's not talked about a lot, that emotional response
of like just a really open heart.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think that's just normal. That's awesome. Celebrate that.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, yes, I think that's so special, and like you said,
kind of like just being in tune with the Holy
Spirit and feeling those emotions. A lot of people are like,
you know, you go to church and you hear a
song that's being sang and then you start to cry
and people are like, well, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
And I'm like, right.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
On the pianos, all these things are. But that's the
enemy strategy to try and like pervert the truth of
the Holy Spirit and that sensitivity. And as there is
a like a there is a full narrative that tries
to tear it down. So yes, that's a whole nother podcast,
but let's real keep.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It for real.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But I think it's just it is that awe and
just reverence of the Lord sometimes like you just think,
you know, you're just kind of hit to your knees,
like I've had so many times where you just actually
are just in awe of who he is and his
character and you know what, and sometimes you don't always
feel him right, Like that's a reality too, Like sometimes
you don't feel him near. But my grandma has said
(03:45):
this my whole life, and it's like sometimes you you
don't always, you know, feel his presence near to you,
but you know his heart and you know who he
is through his word. And so I'm grateful for that
truth as well, because sometimes you know, you're not brought
to tears, you're not over with that overwhelming feeling, but
that's where we have the truth of the Bible.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So I'm grateful for that, you know, man.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, so I want to go back. You said thirteen
is when you met Jesus, right, thirteen. Okay, tell us
the story about that, because I feel like as a teenager,
I mean, that's that's huge.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I I didn't meet him in church.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I grew up going to church, you know, my my
parents raised me, and you know, every Sunday we were
in church, and I loved it. I loved worship music.
But I really met him through a time in my life.
My mom got really sick when I was younger, and
she was diagnosed eventually with cardiac lime disease. And it
(04:45):
was through those years that my family and I were
really hit with just the reality of that and walking,
you know, with someone that is sick, and me being
so young. You know, music was always a safe place
for me. Me and writing music. It's really where I
began to write songs, and that was so healing. But
(05:06):
I had my Bible in my room and I you know,
I just didn't really ever open it. And there was
one night specifically that was really hard with my mom's
journey with her health, and I opened up the word
and and he met me there and and so I'm
so thankful for that, and and through that whole process,
my faith began to grow and I really began to
(05:26):
see just how near He was to me through that time,
and it was so real, and so I'm grateful, you know,
that He met me there and since then, just you know,
by the grace of God, have never looked back. You know,
I've never wanted to to not be just knowing more
(05:47):
about who He is, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
And I feel like too with your if if you
follow Branley on socials, you know that she's very open
about her faith.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh you are.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You can google her, you can put her on YouTube
search and like million worship songs come up, and it's
just it's awesome. But I love that in a in
a vulnerable state where you're a teenager wondering what's going
to happen to your mom, and the Bible just kind
of just jumps out of nowhere at you as what
it does and what a testament to the Lord pursuing you, Yes,
(06:21):
especially when you need him the most.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I feel like that's a common theme every it feels
like nearly every conversation, it's in the struggle that people
point back to where I met Jesus in the fire.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yes, and you know, you.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Think of Shadrack Meshack and a bed and Ago and
they're like doing it on faith of like, well, if
we don't know, we could get we could this could
be over right, you know this, this.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Could be it?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
But are we going to stand up regardless out of
faith and principle? And I'm sure they didn't feel it
right in the moment. They didn't feel their conditioning on
their skin. They just weren't trusted God and they stepped
and then they were in the fight and there was
Jesus in the fire.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And I think that is.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
A over and over and over again just theme of
this show. This conversation has been Jesus is with you
in the fire, like someone needs to know. It's like, ah, man,
this is hot right now. It's like all right, pause,
look around, he's close, he's near to you. Yes, and
it's beautiful. And I think what is like is share
(07:23):
more about that? Like I feel like there's no we're
not I've got to I've got a question. I'm burning
to ask. But at the same time, I'm like, don't
want to move on too quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it's it's it's incredible to
see just his handprint and how you said it. He
just is constantly pursuing us, you know, because because there's
been times even after that that you know, you begin
to doubt, you know, you begin to you go through
another hard thing and somehow you're doubting that that.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
He's already did this, why again.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Exactly exactly, and time and time again, He's been so
faithful to show up, you know, and show up and show.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Up again and again and again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And so I'm grateful for that and just to see,
you know, I think when you are going through something hard,
you're going through a storm, it's so easy to forget
the faithfulness of God or what he has brought you through.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And when He has been with you in those times.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And so just from that young age, like I've always
just gone back to that moment in my room where
he met me, I'm like, thank you Jesus, because when
I am going through something hard again, He's like, oh,
I was with you then, and I'm with you, going
to be with you right now through whatever you're going through.
And so I'm grateful for that truth. And you know
that we get to we get to experience that here,
(08:44):
you know, I've been I lead a Bible study on
Wednesdays Wednesday mornings with a group of gals and all
different you know, ages, all different walks of life, and
we just meet on the phone. We actually just call
it's a call it in Bible study that and we've
been going through Ecclesiastes right now, and it's just been
(09:06):
so powerful, just this reminder of, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Just the the reality of the world we live in.
So much of you know, what Solomon.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Was talking about in the Bible days is so true
to what's going on, what we see in our world today,
just the the how fragile life is, how quick it is,
and so anyway, it's been amazing to just learn from
just the wisdom of the Lord through this chapter, but
just to be reminded of of truly what was important,
(09:37):
and especially in the industry that you know I'm in,
it's all it can be all wrapped in, you know,
the status they have, CMA awards are coming, you know,
because you like all these things right, and it was
just I was just hit with this just beautiful reminder
of what truly matters and faith being at the center
of that and being able to share that with people well,
(10:01):
you know, and I've been hit with that many times
because you know social media that that's one avenue. But
when you're on stage and when you're playing shows and
you're talking about your faith, it's a different. Spiritual warfare,
like I will say, has not been easy. And I
know anybody that you know is in the war, is
in the word that we read how hard right it's
going to be? You're gonna be persecuted for your faith?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, So I feel like we haven't really gone there
yet about this on the podcast about let's talk about
spiritual warfare, because I feel like this is such a
conversation that even to be it fair, like we've dealt
with here on this like we are. Producer Morgan behind
the camera has very tangibly and she's rolling her eyes
right now. She's like, please do not jinx it. But
(10:46):
losing footage, headphones being broken, audio not doing things that
it's supposed to do, and she's like, spiritual warfare right there,
But when you're on mission, these things will happen and
these attacks will happen, and recognizing that and acknowledging it
and being like, you know what cool that means? I'm
(11:07):
on the right, pot right, Yeah, So tell me about
some of the things that you've dealt with, like on stage,
whether it be off stage, and some of that warfare
that you've.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh my goodness, all that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, it's it's so real and it's not talked about
a lot. So I'm glad that we're bringing it to
the light today. And y'all are doing something right, So
keep going. You know, you're doing the Lord's work. So
we gotta we got to keep it, keep it going.
And you know, the enemy would want nothing more than
to to try to tear and destroy, right says it
in the word like what he's out to do. And
(11:40):
so I think I've i begin to kind of see
the tactics of the enemy. And I think once you
kind of recognize that, you're like literally not today, Satan.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Right, I wrote this song.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's like it's it's called get behind Me, and it's
like get behind me, Satan. You know you don't have
a place right in my life. You don't have a
place here. But I I've.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Again I think when I faced that prayers is such
a place.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
To just go, like immediately for me, it's like okay,
and I can feel it. I mean, you know, sometimes
it's when when shows are coming up, bigger shows are
coming up, like the Opry. I recently played the Opry
a couple of months ago, and you know, I was
kind of faced with you know, it's the hundred year
anniversary and so they're celebrating that, and we chat a
little bit about my cousin. And it happened to be
(12:26):
her birthday in the same month that I was playing
the Opry show, and the Lord put on my heart
to play the song that I wrote for her, and
it speaks very openly about you know, faith and seeing
her in heaven, and and it's it's just about the
hope of heaven really, And when I tell you, like
the amount of spiritual warfare that went on just days before,
(12:48):
you know, sending the email, I changed the song, all
of these different things and just the havoc you know
that that happened, and a lot of doubt, Well, maybe
I should keep it the same, Maybe I shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Change my song.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And so I'm thankful for the strength that the Lord
gives me to be like, all right, we're gonna do this.
This is what He's put on my heart to do.
And so I think it's just leaning in, you know,
and not letting the enemy.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Begin a foothold. And that's easier said than done.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like I you know, I wrestle with it all the
time of having to make that choice. But I think
that's when the word of God, when you read the
stories of what they went through, it feels it feels smaller, like, Okay,
that's what they sacrificed, that's what they went through for
the Lord, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I can, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, And so it's it's nothing but you know Him
through me.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But for sure, you know, I've been faced with with that.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean I've been told in you know, before meetings
before hey can you kind of just tone that God
talk down, you know, before an interview, and respectfully, I
was like no, but you know, it's it's it's but
it's also being sensitive as well, because you know, in
the country space, I'm in a lot of environments where
(14:00):
you know, maybe faith and this kind of conversation is
not as welcome, right, It's just not. And so I
think it's just you know, recognizing that we're kind.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of soldiers for we're soldiers for the Lord.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So we're on the battleground out here and we're going
to have to stand up for truth even when it's hard, absolutely, even.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
When it's what you're saying is so profound on so
many levels because you know the word, like I can
tell like and I'm not saying this, I can I
can you just reference Ephesians for Matthew sixteen, like you're
not just saying random cliches that sit on a well,
it's like the words in you and this one thing
(14:44):
I want to highlight. You said it's very applicable to today. Yes,
like people are reading Ecclesiastes like, man, how does this
even make sense? Can I say? The Holy Spirit is
dying to make it? Help you make it make sense
for today? And it's so potent and so needed. Otherwise
you just get hit from nowhere and you're like, where
did that come from? What's going on? I don't understand.
(15:05):
I feel unsettled right, And it's the Bible has the
ability to shine a light on that, and it divides
between soul and spirit. It judges the thoughts and intentions
of the heart. It is the lamp unto my feet.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Come on, Yeah, I know, I love that verse. I
say it every week and I won't stop.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
So but it's like you just said something about tone
it down your reference Matthew sixteen, where Jesus says to Peter,
he says, get behind me, Satan.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh, that doesn't feel good that way.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Hang on a second. You are a stumbling block to me.
You don't have the mind that concerns God, but merely
human concerns. He loved Peter, He loved Peter. He was
like it was he wasn't talking to. He was talking
to He was dealing with spiritual warfare at that time.
And every time that I feel like I said this
to someone recently, I was like, hey, I got a
phrase for you. It's calm down, Jesus. And I said,
(15:56):
every time you think that's it, I don't know, just
say calm down, Jesus. And how does that sit with you?
You saying calm down? Like obviously tongue in cheek, obviously
make a point of like I want to take it
as seriously as Jesus did, Like that's when I read
the Bible. I don't want to take I don't want
to let culture inform me of what level I should
(16:19):
be dealing with on spiritual focusing on it, be aware
of the devil's schemes, don't be obsessed with them, don't
be enamored by it. In fact, Jesus corrects the disciples
coming back after doing that. He says, hey, don't rejoice
they submit to your authority. Rejoice that your names are
written in the book of the Life. And so it's like,
that's what you should be obsessed about. You should be aware.
(16:40):
The part of the mission is spiritual. Yes, but don't
you know, And it's easy and we're like, oh, my
eyes open, You're like here a demon, there, a demon everywhere.
At the end of the day, it's not about that.
It's about it's about, yeah, this is applicable, this is real,
this is something.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
We have victory of it.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
But I've got to have my sword because otherwise I'm
just dodging, you know, the sword of the spirit, which
is the word of God. By the way Sesian six. Yes,
and so I put on the armor of God. But man,
have a firm grisp of the grasp of grisp, have
airs a grisper of the word of God.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And we all would have just kept going because your accident.
We just would have said, grisp about it, using that
then able to.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Stand for it.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
No, I yes, and amen. I'm fired. This is again,
that's one of those conversations. I just want you to understand,
I am here for this. I am honored to be
just fighting along these I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Going to say warrior princesses because I'm going.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Too hey, Warrior, I like you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'm here.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Let's grispspec this is this is cool, and so let's
get into it. Let's keep let's double down on this
because this is something that isn't talked about.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Well that and then to the like the spiritual warfare
that you're talking about, and then like just the nose
in side of the music industry in general. It doesn't
matter the genre of Hey, let me put you into
this box that I want you to fit in so
that way you're easier to sell. Not you be brindlely
brown and let people love you. Yes, because that's who
(18:16):
God made you, right, you know, Yes, and those no's
and those things that you're dealing with, those constant just
like pushbacks. As an artist, there has to come to
a point where you're like, ow, you know, like what
is this for?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes? Yeah, what is the purpose? And yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Man, I mean the rejection is brutal in this industry,
and you highlighted, you know, the industry wanting to kind
of conform, you know, conform you and kind of put
you into this box. And I have experienced that time
and time again with you know, my love for country music,
but my love for the Lord being of most important
(18:58):
you know, in my life. And so you know that
affects everything the songs I write, you know, but it's
the separation between you know, even just the industry and
the country music industry and the Christian music industry. And
you know, so many times I've been asked, Okay, so
are you a country artist or are you a Christian artist?
And we're just we're just confused. We're just confused on
(19:22):
and it's like, well, this is who God's made me
to be. You know, I've been called to be in
country music, to be a light you know, for Him
in this space, but also be unashamed of my faith,
you know, not hide that light or try to conform into,
you know, what a country label would would expect from me,
or even what a Christian label would expect from me.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And so I have dealt with that. I'm still dealing
with that, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's something that I'm you know, on my knees about
all the time, like, Lord, help me navigate this, you know.
But I think when you're called to do something doesn't matter,
even if it's outside of music. Whatever you've been called
to do in your life, the Lord will equip you
with what you need to pursue that dream that he's
put on your heart. And I have seen that He's
(20:09):
been faithful even in the nose the times when I've
felt like, oh if I just change.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
A lyric here, or wear this here, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But again, I've not been perfect in that, Like I'm
still learning, I'm still grown in that. But what He's
put on my heart to do, I know he's going
to give me the tools to be able to do.
And that's for anybody listening like that may have a
dream that feels a little crazy or a little outside
the box, or doesn't fit with what the world may
look at as you know, shiny, and you know that's
(20:41):
we're all on mission here for the Lord.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
So luckily you're one of one, you know what I mean,
Like you are the only Brindley Brown in the world.
So yes, music executives, can we have you heard of
Carrie Underwood? Have you heard of Hillary Scott from Lady
Exactly have you heard of Brandon Leake? Have you know
what I mean? Like this isn't an anomaly here, like
there are so many artists that are unapologetic about their faith,
that are successful, that can do things, and so good
(21:06):
for you, Like I just want to encourage you and say,
like so many young women, I mean, you've been doing
this since you were a teenager. You're on the voice,
you made it to the semi fi or semi final us.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, you've you've you've been You've been.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Through all these things as a teenager and then continuing
on and to not change who you are for the
industry or for other people's you know, well being gain
good for you. And I just can't help but think
about the Lord just smiling at you and saying like
already well done, you know, thank you, And I just
(21:41):
I don't know, there's just we love encouraging.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
All this and you're fired up and feud up to
be a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
On it on the lamp stand, like we just want
we spiritual fa It doesn't make sense. It's not logical,
like even the things that people are saying, like the
box of like it's not logical because of all the
thing reasons you just said, so it only fires me
up more. I'm like, it doesn't actually make sense. Like
it's not like so were you are you pop or country?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Are you atheist? Country?
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like it's always they draw the line, they draw the money.
It just doesn't make sense. And it does when you
understand really what's going on behind the scenes. And I
know I'm touching on some.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Just gave me a look.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
She's like, Okay, it's true, but it's true.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Like that is something that I do think. Jesus and
country music, there's something happening. Yes, it's breaking down God's country.
I love even the idea of like this is God's country.
And that's always been the statement of America. It's why
I love America. We just became citizens, praise God. So
I just allegiance to God's country. And now like I'm
(22:50):
seeing what God's doing in country music, country music and
Jesus is he was always at the center of this
country and these songs and this this genre, this life is.
Jesus has always been at the center. He's always are
the roots. The enemy is trying to you know, no, no, no,
go on, you little box, which is what Matthew five
(23:11):
A lot under a ball, yes, not a lot on
a lampstand. Jesus was always at the root and the
center of country music, yes, and I love that. So
thank you for fighting for that and not not not
yet not giving in.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well, I just am reminded to you. It's like, you know,
I just I just recently wrote this song with a
friend of mine. Her name is Shrea Jones, and her
and I were just talking about this exact thing, and
you know, I was I was at a Christian label
at the time, and she's been in kind of conversations
with country teams and Christian teams and kind of navigating that,
and you know, has a very similar heart to mine,
Like feels like she's just been called to country music
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but to talk about Jesus and write about Jesus. And
so we were just chatting about this, and we wrote
this song called Gatekeeper. You know, because a lot of times,
you know, there's this conversation in town and the music industry.
It's like, well, if you know this person, or if
you can get to this person, if your music's heard
by this person and you know, then then it's gonna
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pop off. Then it's gonna you know, be heard or
if this person likes it. And we were just talking like, Okay,
if God's proud of what we're doing, you know, we're
doing it to the best of our ability, with excellence,
to the best that we can, whatever genre, wherever that
fits for making him proud. He's the gatekeeper. Like promotion
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does not come from the East of the West. I
have to remind myself of that all the time. That
doesn't mean, you know, work hard, you don't. You know,
we're like hitting the ground running, right, We're like hit
the pavement here.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You're like you have to. But I think this industry
it's like, okay, it's all or nothing. It's like you
give it your soul, you give it your all, and
then that's how you're gonna make it. You hear these stories,
but I just.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Believe that God doesn't work like that, and he works
in behind the scenes, right, he's wor king. I know that,
And but doesn't come from.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
A gatekeeper at radio or a gatekeeper at a label.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So we wrote this little line that's like you don't
need a key when you know the gatekeeper.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's like, I don't need.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
To try to strive to get approval from man. Right,
I just got to make my father proud of the
best of my ability. And again that's a daily you
know struggle, right, because it's just it's so easy to
look around this industry, you're comparing, you're seeing this working,
you're even those people in the country Christian space. Even
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for me, it's like, okay, but the Lord has a
plan for each one of us, and so just trusting that.
But know one like, Okay, I don't need to get
to this gatekeeper at radio. It's like, if I'm making
my father proud, that's where I got to stay. I
was thinking of like a horse with blinders on, so
like when they're in their race and they've got those
little you know, cups by their eyes. They're just like,
(25:57):
all right, this is what God has called me. This
is where I'm this is where I'm going. Yeah, So
that's been helpful for there.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Was a someone was talking about something similar that I've
heard of, like.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Running a marathon. Okay, are you're running something? What is it?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
In track?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
There we goes.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
You're running track, right, you're all on in lines, Yeah,
in your own in your own lane. They're like, you're
going so fast your legs are moving so fast that
if you take a peek, you literally will trip and fall.
And what a good reminder for all of us that
comparing yourselves, looking at what somebody else is doing, Oh,
their success is way better than mine. Oh my gosh,
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why are they so much further? You stumble?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So, literally running.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Your own race and staying in your own lane is
so important. Yes, And I love that you brought that up,
because that's another spiritual warfare of like comparison, yes, making
you know, making believing lies about yourself. Yes, and in
just such a comparing industry. Yes, what an an unbelievable
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attribute for you to have to acknowledge that and say, no,
that's not what my God says about me, right, Yeah,
So I'm just encouraging you in that because that's I
think it's just awesome too. How you were talking about earlier,
you were talking about your Bible study, the call in
Bible study. I don't know who's watching this or listening
to this right now that you keep making excuses about
not joining that Bible study.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Join one on the phone, come on alone, enjoy mine.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It's a women's Bible study. If your lady out there
soldiers for faith.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, it's it's it's been the best thing anyway to Sorry.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
No, I just love that you do it on the
phone because people are like, well, you know, Wednesday night
doesn't work for me, or this doesn't work for me.
Like a thirty minute phone call that can work for someone.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Absolutely, yeah and easy. And it's it's the way that
we get the word into us. It's like man to
have people like, man, I don't understand it, you know, awesome,
get on the phone to talk to someone ask. There's
plenty of people who will walk that out with you.
And that's what I love to do. I love h
opening the word to God and be like, let's see
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what's here, because it is, it's everything. It's the just
by coincidence is the number one best selling book of ever,
just by.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Coincident, literally yeah, just of all time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
At all times.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Christians are popular and not personally, I don't know, it's
just to me, it's not a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's not a normal book.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, every other book is normal, just divine yes, And
I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, it's not. It's obvious clear to me.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So I just love the Bible.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Yes, I'm a Bible.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Guy, and then Bible studies too.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I love being challenged where if I have something that
I believe or think I believe, and then somebody can
challenge me in that, I think there's such a it's
such a great way to grow, especially among peers are
people that you trust, to be able to have those
hard conversations where it's like, actually, one of my best friends,
she is Mormon, and she's in our Bible study, and
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we all talk about everything that she believes, and then
we'll talk about what we believe, and it's just like
depositing knowledge and challenging.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
People and what they believe.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I think it's just so great to have those conversations
and understand why people believe other things. So that way
you're not you know, you're not what's the word I'm
looking for, You're not ignorant to what they're believing. You're like, oh, okay,
I understand why you believe that, but here's what the
Bible says.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I'm bringing that's that's the point of where it's like,
it's not about my opinion versus your opinion. Yes, and
that's where a lot of things go wrong. Yeah, it's
like I'm not. I'm not just like preaching my little
side of the Bible that I'm really passionate about. And
I think that's what a lot of the time the
temptation is. Yeah, but it's like, no, the whole scripture. Yeah,
like the whole entire witness and counsel of scripture.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, that's everything.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, and so old Bible makes a whole Christian, Like
that's what I.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Bible makes a whole Christian. Say that again. The kids
in the bad Yeah, it's really good. That is again we.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Get into so in a nuance and the enemy loves
to be like yeah, yeah, Bible's great. It's like yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, this part of it. Oh yeah, it's
like no, come on, it's like be teachable, be open.
It's like even people who know the Bible, the more
you know, the more you realize humility, teachability like a child,
like you grow into reliance, not into like confidence in
(30:20):
my own skills or knowledge. It's like no, I'm like
I don't know anything, you know, but I know, like
that's I'm learning.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I want to learn, and I.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Think God opposes the proud. There's another scripture that is
like dang, yeah it checks me mirror.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Looking at and going, oh, okay, that's that's not good.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And you're like, yeah, that was for me for first
the first time.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
You're like, no, I don't want to then I just
now I'm just like this, I'm laughing. I laugh and
I'm like, what an idiot? Yes, Like I just literally
was believing that the Earth was flat and no.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I'm just kidding. I'm not getting into that. But it's like, I.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Feel like we've bring this up every once in a while,
we're gonna have to do We're gonna have to do
one of just us talking on tune into that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I'd be here for that. I love it. No, it does.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It shapes and refines you. And yeah, sometimes you're hit
with whoo, like I I've I was seeing that wrongly.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I was not. But even with your friend too, it's like,
you know, the Lord.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I just think about how the Lord met people in
the Bible, how he's still meeting people today. It's in
the most unlikely of places, like for me, I didn't
meet him in church.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know, I believe Jesus is you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Can meet him anywhere, and you know, and I'm so
passionate about my music right reflecting that. But even with
your friend who you know is of the Mormon faith,
it gives us the tools too, like to meet those
people with love and to be able to share truth
with them, like just the knowledge of knowing what's in
the Bible and like, hey, this is what God says,
(31:55):
like this is his word. And it's really been helpful
because I have friends, you know in the Catholic faith
difference that you know may not be a Christian and
being able to have like healthy conversations, I think is
really important. And it's like, how would the Lord be
talking to him, like he would say, hey, this is
the truth, but in love. And so how do we
(32:18):
reach those people, you know, to the best of our
ability the way the Lord would you know, Like and
it's his word through us, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's Him working through us.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
There's so many times like when I've had just these
situations like in the industry where you know, I met
with these conversations and totally like divine appointments. I call
him like they're not out of the Lord's hand, but
He's gonna again.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Equip you with the words. I will give you the words.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's another Screucier verse, like it is His Holy Spirit
speaking and working through us in those moments, because if
I was talking, I would be messing it up. I
would be saying the wrong thing, you know, at the
wrong time. And so I'm grateful for that. But having
that knowledge of the Word and like a whole bringing
that whole Bible, like you know, like having that to
(33:08):
be able to speak to people, you know, in that
way is critically important. Like if we're walking out our faith,
you know, the.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Whole Bible makes a whole Christian. That's just good. I
can't get over that.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, it's so so I don't know if I can
claim that yard I've probably heard that somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Sorry, don't call me on it.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
We'll find out.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Get credit twice and then after that you've kind of
your licenses.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Oh that is right, all right, Well then I probably
do a couple practically.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Can I ask this question practically? Like I agree with
so all of that stuff is gold, And it's like
I've struggled to believe, you know, there's been people have
conversations with it, struggle to believe, Like, how does this relate?
I get the principle, I arguably would agree with you
(33:56):
on the principle, but like I really unpacked it. It
came alive to me when I went through it, so
like a crazy spiritual warfare story, like do you have one,
Like like obviously the opery and the stuff, and you
see you feel the resistance.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, you feel the pushback.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, it's subtle to subtle to everyone else and like,
but to you, it's real. It's like yeah, full on,
yeah you can. It's not something you're you're over exaggerating
in any way, but like, what would you say practically,
what are some examples take us through it? What does
it feel like to be in a spiritual warfare more
than the rhetoric of it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, that's such a good question, because it it is.
I mean, I think the best word to explain it
is it's brutal. And I think it's come from different
angles for me, like normally, I feel like mentally is
kind of where with comparison with you know, hey, if
you don't do this, you're not going to progress in
(34:55):
your career. Most recently I had some spiritual warfare like
with my own family.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Like believers that were like, hey, we just like.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Don't know if you're going to progress in your career
because you're so bold about your faith, and that hit differently.
That's my own family, and so I think man, And
another thing too is you know, she was talking about
like technical difficulties like experiencing that here on the podcast.
(35:25):
So much of that at shows, for sure I've experienced.
But also my voice, like the enemies trying to tack
my voice so many times where I'll lose my voice
like it wasn't sick, just have some vocal issues or
so those things are very real. And again I think
the weapon is the word being in the word, but
(35:48):
also prayer because it's gonna you know, it's gonna fight.
Especially on the mental side. For me, it's like that's
where it's finding that getting away with the Lord time
to be able to prepare for that. I feel like now,
like it sounds kind of weird, but I feel like
I've gotten reps in And when I say, I feel
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like I can now recognize the tactics from the enemy.
I feel like I'm better equipped because I've been through it. So,
you know, does it make it any easier? No, Like
that's a reality, But I think then I'm reminded of like,
all right, I got to carry my cross, I gotta
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pick it up.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, and I think too, like a very tangible spiritual
warfare situation that happened with me was with my kids.
My my husband and I both have amazing families I
grew up with. It was always financial issues growing up.
I have five siblings. We were always dealing with a
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lot of financial things. So my husband and I have
made this promise to ourselves that that will never be
something that we argue about, something that you know, hinders
us from doing what we need to do. So it's
like the second we start to make this headway and
start to you know, turn the generational curse, my daughter
(37:14):
starts having these dreams and at this time she's two
years old.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
She wakes up and she's, you.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Know, my great great grandma told me that I should
kill myself. My two year old is saying this, Wow.
So my husband and I look at each other and
we're like, what was that? So we start asking your questions, well,
what did she look like? That kind of stuff. She's
quite literally describing my husband's great grandmother, great grandmother. So
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he's like that that is her. So it became a
you know, what kind of attack is this we were
just very and it got to a point where, and
I'll be honest, like I was scared to walk around
my home. Yeah, I was like I don't want to
go upstairs by myself, that kind of stuff, to where
if my husband was out of town, I was just like,
we're not going up too, We're staying down here, We're
not going up those in that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
And it took a little.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Over a year of just like constant reminders, constant you know,
like praying over our home, removing certain things from our
home that you know somebody left or you know that
just wasn't hours, and reminding myself that like the power
of the Holy Spirit lives in me, so I can
command these things to leave my home.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
And like walking in.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Spiritual authority is such a I don't know, people think
it's like taboo and weird, but it's just such a
powerful thing to know that like I can command evil
to leave in the name of Jesus and it's not
allowed to come back, you know what I mean. And
so it's just like this prayer every single night before
we go to bed, we annoy our bedposts in the
blood of Jesus. Y the enemy is not allowed to
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disrupt our sleep tonight. We are going to sleep peacefully.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
That kind of stuff. And it's just like.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Through my daughter reminding me that I have the power
of the Holy Spirit and knowing that how important and
how just like powerful that is was just one of
those things where it's like a child is teaching me
how to be a better mother, a better leader, spiritually, emotionally,
all the things. And those are like scary spiritual warfare
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moments where it's like a tangible attack on my children
and I'm like, so, no, you can do whatever you
want to me, but you will not touch my kids.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I don't know that's how.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
God sees us.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You think about that, it's like that's God's protection over
us so that we don't have to live with that fear.
But it is real, right, and so it's and I'm
so thankful that you share that story because I'm sure
so many people have experienced.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
That in walking with the Lord.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
That is such a real thing, and I'm grateful that.
But it's always amazing to me too. I think when
I've gone through just different spiritual warfare experiences, like what
the Lord has taught me every single time something different,
it's something new, and so I'm grateful for.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
How he can also use that in a way.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I know it sounds odd because it's like it's the enemy,
which you know, he doesn't have any rule or reign
exactly what you said, but how he has strengthened my
faith through that because you again are hit with just
how real he is and how he shows up. Yeah,
and so I'm but I'm grateful you shared that story
(40:27):
because I think you know that is such a it's.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Such a real example of the ways.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That you know, I don't even want to say his name,
but the devil can work, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah, that's kind of good.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
I wrote a song called Dear Lucy and it was well,
it's I just don't want to talk about it, but
it was because I can feel like I can feel
in right now. And when you go through something like
that and you're a two year old says something like that,
that's not someone said something or a real on Instagram
I read or somebody like this. But when that hits
(41:05):
you that close to home, it's like, all right, all
beds are off. I mean, it's not about like the
person that person's crazy over there.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Like no, no, that's this is different. This hit my home.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
This doesn't make sense a two year old saying like
this isn't from watching Bluie. You know this isn't from
like this was what? And so when it when like
you say, when you go through the fire, you feel
Jesus the closest, And that's when I met him going
through that trial in the fire. Also when you are
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aware of like that Bible says that the enemy, be alert,
be aware. The enemy is prowling around looking for whom
he can devour. They're pretty strong words. So it's like, okay,
when I'm aware and alert because I can I can
sense like the torment in nightmares of my two year old.
That's something on like suicide ideation. That's like I am alert,
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Like I'm alert, like there's an intruder in my house,
Like if someone comes into my house. I have four
children and a wife, I am highly I am not.
This happened to me in Australia where my garage door
came up and someone came in and I was like
lying in bed and Lauren's like someone's in the house.
And I was like this fast asleep in dreamland and
in two seconds I'm like bang, like through the door.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
With my four iron.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
That's all I could find. I had a four iron
go because I was practicing my golf swing, and I
am like, dude, within two seconds, I'm there and I'm
being that front on and to me, that's exactly how
it should be when we and if the enemy can
convince you that, no, that's not there's no one in
your house are you talking about? Did God really say that,
which is, by the way, the original lie of Eden?
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Did God really say that that is real in the
Is that really in the Bible? If you're feeling that,
can I tell you that's not God's voice? That never
has been God's voice. Did God to question what is
literally in inerrant, perfect, beautiful, powerful word of God. That's
the enemy. You're like, ah, that's too far. Everything that
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the enemy does is a perversion of truth. If you
think about it, this is absolute truth, and it's like twisted,
whether rotated, upside down or direct flip of the meaning.
I'm not even gonna say it because I'm Morgan, will
chop it. Edit God, God, I did not mean to
gaslight Morgan.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I just did. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
I I just don't. I'm just saying those who have ears,
let them hear everything. If you trace the logical thing everything,
you can find truth just by finding the mirrors, the
mirror perversions. Nothing else exists in the world like that.
It's like wild throw the images up on screen right now.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Maybe let's go, let's go for it. All I'm saying
is I just came. We all came with our guns
out of our horses this morning. And I can feel it.
And I even just in this conversation, you feel the tension.
And I'm like, when I feel that, the spirit of
fear wants to get you back down, and I am
learning to run towards it. I am learning with my
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armor and with my sword on. Not ignorant of the
enemy schemes. But I'm like, now that is a light
and I'm the mosquito and I'm just I can't stop now,
Like it's something shifted in And this is what God's
doing in the world, is there's a shift in the
awareness and scales are falling off your eyes. The world
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is binary at its core, light and dark. It's spiritual,
Like this isn't just we're getting a little bit more aware.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, and it's beautiful and it's awesome where you'll learn
it from. Like you said, that feeling of just being
scared in your home.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And not knowing what to do.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Now a year and a half later, walking in my
home with authority, ha, you think you're allowed to stay?
Speaker 6 (45:01):
See you later, you know that kind of thing. And
even my daughter.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Now she's in preschool and she's learning, she'll be like, Mommy,
you know we can't see if it's dark. God made light,
so there's light in the darkness. And I'm like, yes,
he did, sister. Literally, I just said, you know what
I mean. And it's just so cool how you being
a mom is the best because she's teaching me something
new every day, and it's she's literally reminding me of
Scripture some days and I'm like, you know what, I
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needed to hear that, sister, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
And then she'd be like, oh, you know, and there's
something else than the next day.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
But man, there's just something so cool about walking in
authority and not being ashamed to talk about it. Yes,
just like you're doing every single day.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yes, well that's very kind.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
But I loved all that you guys shared, and I
can't wait to be a mom one day. But I
think that it's so beautiful just thinking about childlike faith
and like just how much how much we learn from kids.
And I have a younger brother, and he was such
a blessing in my life. I shared a little bit
about my mom's health journey and she was able to
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have my little brother fifteen years after I was born.
So I was the only child for fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
And then I have a fifteen year old, fifteen younger brother,
you do.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, I love that, and it's been it's been the
most special, special relationship. And he's such a blessing in
my life. But he teaches me things every single day.
You know, he's nine now, and man, just some of
the things he says and just his faith, like he
just does not doubt. He's like, oh, God's with us,
like I know, and it's just it's it's a gift.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
It's a gift.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
So I'm and and the work that you know, moms
do in motherhood, like it is so important.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Their role is so important and I hope you know that.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I feel you know that, but what God has gifted
you and that is just critical important, just of importance.
And I can't wait to be a mom for for
that reason, just to like be able to you know, oh,
raised kid.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Can't wait for you to be a mommy there because
it's the best thing ever. The world just makes you
so scared of motherhood nowadays with all these like reels
and videos and I'm just like, yeah, it's hard, but
it's so awesome, Like, what are you talking about the
greatest gift? Yeah, I wanted to touch on this really
quick because I feel like you post a lot of
your quiet time online, like when you are in the
Bible or you are reading something, you write something, and
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you wrote something so profound.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Jesus, She's like, what are you going to say?
Speaker 4 (47:28):
It's just in the side and like the notes part
of your Bible, it says in lack, thank him in much,
thank him in a no, thank him, and yes thank
him and lonely thank him in love thank him. He
calls us a people made to praise him, so we'll
find a reason to praise him, even if it cost us.
And I think that literally is just kind of like
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a bow wrapped on the end of this episode of
like exactly what we're talking about. And then for Thessalonians
five eighteen, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is
the will of God no matter what.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yes, He is with you, Yes he is for you. Amen.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
And I just I just want to say thank you
for being open online about your faith because that is
going to help somebody.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's my prayer. That's thank you for sharing that and that.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Honestly, I don't share you know everything, you know, like
in my quiet time, but I do pray and I
do always hope to use it in that way because
it is such a you know, it can be such
a dark thing.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
And you know, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Specifically I shared that just a few weeks ago, and
I was reading in for Thessalonians and that is like
what he put on my heart is because it's just
what I was walking through. Like, so I'm grateful if that,
you know, can reach somebody and encourage them in their faith,
even if they don't know God at all, and they
read that and they're just touched, they know that they're
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not alone.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
That you know, I feel the same things. I go
through the same things, but that faith in God is
what gets gets me through it through it all.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
So yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I always like to end things by asking, just in
your life right now, things that you're praying for, believing
for what we can do, or how we can pray
for you.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh, man, that's so kind.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I've never been on a podcast where they have asked that,
So that's super awesome.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I goodness, geez, I think I'm just thinking, honestly, I
just want to I actually want to answer that honestly time.
So I'm just not that I haven't this whole time,
but I'm just thinking I could give you a list.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, I'm kidding, you.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Know, I'd really love prayer for the Bible study that
I'm in, actually that I'm there's currently quite a few
ladies just in that study that our work walking through
a lot of different health issues, specifically, you know, one
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being my mom and uh, to make a really long
story short, the house that uh they're living in my parents,
they just found a lot of mold in this house,
uh and not a little, like a lot, And so
we've just been we we're thanking the Lord because it
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revealed one of the reasons why she's not been doing
well and she still has lime lime lime disease, and
so it's really brought a lot of those symptoms back
and a lot of the symptoms that she dealt with
when I was younger, and so that's been very hard
to say, uh the least been really difficult. But we're
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thankful that God revealed that so that it.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Can be taken care of.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
But just for her, for her healing and uh, for
her body to just she actually has a doctor's appointment.
I'm headed to after this to meet her there. And
so yeah, just for for her treatments for some of that,
for her lime disease. There's a beautiful lady, her name's Nicole.
She's walking through cancer right now. Just just praying for her, Yeah,
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and just the Bible study as a whole. These ladies,
you know, they've really like changed my life, They've really
impacted my life, like so just that they're touched, you
know by the Lord. And yeah, just for some healing
through through some of those ladies' lives and their health specifically.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
All Right, well, I'm gonna pray us out. I love that,
do youar having?
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Like Father, Lord, just thank you for sweet conversation, thank
you for Brendley and her openness to just talk about you.
Thank you for her unapologetic faith God, and we just
pray that over her that you would continue to give
her the strength and the courage and the tools to
fight the good fight and to continue to be unapologetic
about who you are and speaking the name of Jesus.
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And we're just grateful for her willingness to open and
lead a Bible study God, even on the phone. Lord,
thank you for the conversations that these women have. And
we just we pray that they all just continue to
grow closer to You. And we just as some of
these ladies walk through health issues. God, we pray over
Nicole and her cancer diagnosis, Lord that you would just
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you would just heal her from the inside out. God,
that the doctors, the nurses, everybody who's involved with her treatment. Lord,
you would just give them supernatural strength and wisdom to
know exactly what to do to help this cancer go away.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
God.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
And we just we pray specifically over Brinley's mom and
we just we ask for healing for her.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
God.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
We just we pray and say thank you for revealing
that there was mold in their home. Lord, And now
we just pray it all out in Jesus' name, God,
and we pray over these treatments and we just ask
that you would line up her mom's body with your
word that she is whole and healed in Jesus' name, Lord,
that you would just do what only you can do.
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You're a miracle worker, God, and we are believing in
miracles and healing over not just Brendley's mom, but over
Nicole and over any of the other women who are
facing any of these health issues. God, and we just
say thank you for who you are, and thank you
that in the midst of these diagnoses we still have hope.
We have hope in you, and we just we're grateful
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for who you are and who you've made us. Lord,
Thank you, and we pray all of this in your
Son's holy name.
Speaker 6 (53:41):
Amen.
Hey, I'm Brindley Brown, and I've been told in before meetings,
we just don't know if you're going to progress in
your career because you're.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So bold about your faith.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, can you kind of just tone that God? Talk
down that hit differently?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We okay with that. Guns out of a houses this.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Morning back and this is the upload.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Brendley Brown is here with us on the upload. I'm
Brick Taylor Mark Evans, and I gotta say we were
just talking about how we met a little over a
year ago at this writer's round. It's like basically where
we just have a bunch of females on stage celebrating
women in country music and women in songwriting and all
the things. And you got up on stage and you
(00:41):
were just telling a story I think about your cousin,
and I was just like, I need to chat with her.
Like it was just like this this all moment where
I was like, I feel like there's a story that
I just want to hear. And following you on social
media obviously had my daughter and then kind of disappeared
for a little while, but we hear our back of
our back. It has been born, and I'm excited to
(01:02):
chat with you about your story and kind of where
everything began for you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yes, well, it's so sweet that we connected there and
I remember you sharing just your vision for this, and
so it's really special to be here and be able
to like see it come to life.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So I'm grateful to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, I got to say, we like to start off
the podcast just kind of talking about our faith. And
if somebody was to ask you, you know, what is
your faith, what do you believe in? How would you
answer them?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh? Man, well, I love that you start with that question.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And I just honestly was praying on the way over
here and just thanking the Lord because I remember what
you shared with me that writer's around just your vision
for this, and I think something like this is so needed,
especially in our industry, where we're able to have a
space to talk about our faith and to talk about
the Lord. So I'm really grateful for that so first
(01:49):
and foremost. But man, my faith is everything to me.
It's it's you know, I met Jesus when I was
thirteen years old, and he changed my life and so
thankful to know him. You know, I'm still growing and
learning in my faith every day, but I would be
nothing without my Savior.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
So I love that you're getting emotional talking about that,
because it's like going down no I already. Me and
one of my girlfriends sometimes will just be having a
conversation and she's just like, man, isn't God so good?
And she'll start crying and then I'm starting to cry,
and then it's just like it's this big spiral downhill
in the best way, the.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Same we're here. It's like, Lauren's like, are you crying again?
I'm like, it's the Holy Spirit. It's like I feel
God Like, it's not it's not really that emotional, but
it's it's sensitivity to the presence of God. And I
think that's not talked about a lot, that emotional response
of like just a really open heart.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think that's just normal. That's awesome. Celebrate that.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, yes, I think that's so special, and like you said,
kind of like just being in tune with the Holy
Spirit and feeling those emotions. A lot of people are like,
you know, you go to church and you hear a
song that's being sang and then you start to cry
and people are like, well, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
And I'm like, right.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
On the pianos, all these things are. But that's the
enemy strategy to try and like pervert the truth of
the Holy Spirit and that sensitivity. And as there is
a like a there is a full narrative that tries
to tear it down. So yes, that's a whole nother podcast,
but let's real keep.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It for real.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But I think it's just it is that awe and
just reverence of the Lord sometimes like you just think,
you know, you're just kind of hit to your knees,
like I've had so many times where you just actually
are just in awe of who he is and his
character and you know what, and sometimes you don't always
feel him right, Like that's a reality too, Like sometimes
you don't feel him near. But my grandma has said
(03:45):
this my whole life, and it's like sometimes you you
don't always, you know, feel his presence near to you,
but you know his heart and you know who he
is through his word. And so I'm grateful for that
truth as well, because sometimes you know, you're not brought
to tears, you're not over with that overwhelming feeling, but
that's where we have the truth of the Bible.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So I'm grateful for that, you know, man.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, so I want to go back. You said thirteen
is when you met Jesus, right, thirteen. Okay, tell us
the story about that, because I feel like as a teenager,
I mean, that's that's huge.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I I didn't meet him in church.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I grew up going to church, you know, my my
parents raised me, and you know, every Sunday we were
in church, and I loved it. I loved worship music.
But I really met him through a time in my life.
My mom got really sick when I was younger, and
she was diagnosed eventually with cardiac lime disease. And it
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was through those years that my family and I were
really hit with just the reality of that and walking,
you know, with someone that is sick, and me being
so young. You know, music was always a safe place
for me. Me and writing music. It's really where I
began to write songs, and that was so healing. But
(05:06):
I had my Bible in my room and I you know,
I just didn't really ever open it. And there was
one night specifically that was really hard with my mom's
journey with her health, and I opened up the word
and and he met me there and and so I'm
so thankful for that, and and through that whole process,
my faith began to grow and I really began to
(05:26):
see just how near He was to me through that time,
and it was so real, and so I'm grateful, you know,
that He met me there and since then, just you know,
by the grace of God, have never looked back. You know,
I've never wanted to to not be just knowing more
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about who He is, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
And I feel like too with your if if you
follow Branley on socials, you know that she's very open
about her faith.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh you are.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You can google her, you can put her on YouTube
search and like million worship songs come up, and it's
just it's awesome. But I love that in a in
a vulnerable state where you're a teenager wondering what's going
to happen to your mom, and the Bible just kind
of just jumps out of nowhere at you as what
it does and what a testament to the Lord pursuing you, Yes,
(06:21):
especially when you need him the most.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I feel like that's a common theme every it feels
like nearly every conversation, it's in the struggle that people
point back to where I met Jesus in the fire.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yes, and you know, you.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Think of Shadrack Meshack and a bed and Ago and
they're like doing it on faith of like, well, if
we don't know, we could get we could this could
be over right, you know this, this.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Could be it?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
But are we going to stand up regardless out of
faith and principle? And I'm sure they didn't feel it
right in the moment. They didn't feel their conditioning on
their skin. They just weren't trusted God and they stepped
and then they were in the fight and there was
Jesus in the fire.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And I think that is.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
A over and over and over again just theme of
this show. This conversation has been Jesus is with you
in the fire, like someone needs to know. It's like, ah, man,
this is hot right now. It's like all right, pause,
look around, he's close, he's near to you. Yes, and
it's beautiful. And I think what is like is share
(07:23):
more about that? Like I feel like there's no we're
not I've got to I've got a question. I'm burning
to ask. But at the same time, I'm like, don't
want to move on too quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it's it's it's incredible to
see just his handprint and how you said it. He
just is constantly pursuing us, you know, because because there's
been times even after that that you know, you begin
to doubt, you know, you begin to you go through
another hard thing and somehow you're doubting that that.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
He's already did this, why again.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Exactly exactly, and time and time again, He's been so
faithful to show up, you know, and show up and show.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Up again and again and again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And so I'm grateful for that and just to see,
you know, I think when you are going through something hard,
you're going through a storm, it's so easy to forget
the faithfulness of God or what he has brought you through.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And when He has been with you in those times.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And so just from that young age, like I've always
just gone back to that moment in my room where
he met me, I'm like, thank you Jesus, because when
I am going through something hard again, He's like, oh,
I was with you then, and I'm with you, going
to be with you right now through whatever you're going through.
And so I'm grateful for that truth. And you know
that we get to we get to experience that here,
(08:44):
you know, I've been I lead a Bible study on
Wednesdays Wednesday mornings with a group of gals and all
different you know, ages, all different walks of life, and
we just meet on the phone. We actually just call
it's a call it in Bible study that and we've
been going through Ecclesiastes right now, and it's just been
(09:06):
so powerful, just this reminder of, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Just the the reality of the world we live in.
So much of you know, what Solomon.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Was talking about in the Bible days is so true
to what's going on, what we see in our world today,
just the the how fragile life is, how quick it is,
and so anyway, it's been amazing to just learn from
just the wisdom of the Lord through this chapter, but
just to be reminded of of truly what was important,
(09:37):
and especially in the industry that you know I'm in,
it's all it can be all wrapped in, you know,
the status they have, CMA awards are coming, you know,
because you like all these things right, and it was
just I was just hit with this just beautiful reminder
of what truly matters and faith being at the center
of that and being able to share that with people well,
(10:01):
you know, and I've been hit with that many times
because you know social media that that's one avenue. But
when you're on stage and when you're playing shows and
you're talking about your faith, it's a different. Spiritual warfare,
like I will say, has not been easy. And I
know anybody that you know is in the war, is
in the word that we read how hard right it's
going to be? You're gonna be persecuted for your faith?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, So I feel like we haven't really gone there
yet about this on the podcast about let's talk about
spiritual warfare, because I feel like this is such a
conversation that even to be it fair, like we've dealt
with here on this like we are. Producer Morgan behind
the camera has very tangibly and she's rolling her eyes
right now. She's like, please do not jinx it. But
(10:46):
losing footage, headphones being broken, audio not doing things that
it's supposed to do, and she's like, spiritual warfare right there,
But when you're on mission, these things will happen and
these attacks will happen, and recognizing that and acknowledging it
and being like, you know what cool that means? I'm
(11:07):
on the right, pot right, Yeah, So tell me about
some of the things that you've dealt with, like on stage,
whether it be off stage, and some of that warfare
that you've.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh my goodness, all that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, it's it's so real and it's not talked about
a lot. So I'm glad that we're bringing it to
the light today. And y'all are doing something right, So
keep going. You know, you're doing the Lord's work. So
we gotta we got to keep it, keep it going.
And you know, the enemy would want nothing more than
to to try to tear and destroy, right says it
in the word like what he's out to do. And
(11:40):
so I think I've i begin to kind of see
the tactics of the enemy. And I think once you
kind of recognize that, you're like literally not today, Satan.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Right, I wrote this song.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's like it's it's called get behind Me, and it's
like get behind me, Satan. You know you don't have
a place right in my life. You don't have a
place here. But I I've.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Again I think when I faced that prayers is such
a place.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
To just go, like immediately for me, it's like okay,
and I can feel it. I mean, you know, sometimes
it's when when shows are coming up, bigger shows are
coming up, like the Opry. I recently played the Opry
a couple of months ago, and you know, I was
kind of faced with you know, it's the hundred year
anniversary and so they're celebrating that, and we chat a
little bit about my cousin. And it happened to be
(12:26):
her birthday in the same month that I was playing
the Opry show, and the Lord put on my heart
to play the song that I wrote for her, and
it speaks very openly about you know, faith and seeing
her in heaven, and and it's it's just about the
hope of heaven really, And when I tell you, like
the amount of spiritual warfare that went on just days before,
(12:48):
you know, sending the email, I changed the song, all
of these different things and just the havoc you know
that that happened, and a lot of doubt, Well, maybe
I should keep it the same, Maybe I shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Change my song.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And so I'm thankful for the strength that the Lord
gives me to be like, all right, we're gonna do this.
This is what He's put on my heart to do.
And so I think it's just leaning in, you know,
and not letting the enemy.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Begin a foothold. And that's easier said than done.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like I you know, I wrestle with it all the
time of having to make that choice. But I think
that's when the word of God, when you read the
stories of what they went through, it feels it feels smaller, like, Okay,
that's what they sacrificed, that's what they went through for
the Lord, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I can, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, And so it's it's nothing but you know Him
through me.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But for sure, you know, I've been faced with with that.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean I've been told in you know, before meetings
before hey can you kind of just tone that God
talk down, you know, before an interview, and respectfully, I
was like no, but you know, it's it's it's but
it's also being sensitive as well, because you know, in
the country space, I'm in a lot of environments where
(14:00):
you know, maybe faith and this kind of conversation is
not as welcome, right, It's just not. And so I
think it's just you know, recognizing that we're kind.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of soldiers for we're soldiers for the Lord.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So we're on the battleground out here and we're going
to have to stand up for truth even when it's hard, absolutely, even.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
When it's what you're saying is so profound on so
many levels because you know the word, like I can
tell like and I'm not saying this, I can I
can you just reference Ephesians for Matthew sixteen, like you're
not just saying random cliches that sit on a well,
it's like the words in you and this one thing
(14:44):
I want to highlight. You said it's very applicable to today. Yes,
like people are reading Ecclesiastes like, man, how does this
even make sense? Can I say? The Holy Spirit is
dying to make it? Help you make it make sense
for today? And it's so potent and so needed. Otherwise
you just get hit from nowhere and you're like, where
did that come from? What's going on? I don't understand.
(15:05):
I feel unsettled right, And it's the Bible has the
ability to shine a light on that, and it divides
between soul and spirit. It judges the thoughts and intentions
of the heart. It is the lamp unto my feet.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Come on, Yeah, I know, I love that verse. I
say it every week and I won't stop.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
So but it's like you just said something about tone
it down your reference Matthew sixteen, where Jesus says to Peter,
he says, get behind me, Satan.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh, that doesn't feel good that way.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Hang on a second. You are a stumbling block to me.
You don't have the mind that concerns God, but merely
human concerns. He loved Peter, He loved Peter. He was
like it was he wasn't talking to. He was talking
to He was dealing with spiritual warfare at that time.
And every time that I feel like I said this
to someone recently, I was like, hey, I got a
phrase for you. It's calm down, Jesus. And I said,
(15:56):
every time you think that's it, I don't know, just
say calm down, Jesus. And how does that sit with you?
You saying calm down? Like obviously tongue in cheek, obviously
make a point of like I want to take it
as seriously as Jesus did, Like that's when I read
the Bible. I don't want to take I don't want
to let culture inform me of what level I should
(16:19):
be dealing with on spiritual focusing on it, be aware
of the devil's schemes, don't be obsessed with them, don't
be enamored by it. In fact, Jesus corrects the disciples
coming back after doing that. He says, hey, don't rejoice
they submit to your authority. Rejoice that your names are
written in the book of the Life. And so it's like,
that's what you should be obsessed about. You should be aware.
(16:40):
The part of the mission is spiritual. Yes, but don't
you know, And it's easy and we're like, oh, my
eyes open, You're like here a demon, there, a demon everywhere.
At the end of the day, it's not about that.
It's about it's about, yeah, this is applicable, this is real,
this is something.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
We have victory of it.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
But I've got to have my sword because otherwise I'm
just dodging, you know, the sword of the spirit, which
is the word of God. By the way Sesian six. Yes,
and so I put on the armor of God. But man,
have a firm grisp of the grasp of grisp, have
airs a grisper of the word of God.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And we all would have just kept going because your accident.
We just would have said, grisp about it, using that
then able to.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Stand for it.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
No, I yes, and amen. I'm fired. This is again,
that's one of those conversations. I just want you to understand,
I am here for this. I am honored to be
just fighting along these I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Going to say warrior princesses because I'm going.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Too hey, Warrior, I like you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'm here.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Let's grispspec this is this is cool, and so let's
get into it. Let's keep let's double down on this
because this is something that isn't talked about.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Well that and then to the like the spiritual warfare
that you're talking about, and then like just the nose
in side of the music industry in general. It doesn't
matter the genre of Hey, let me put you into
this box that I want you to fit in so
that way you're easier to sell. Not you be brindlely
brown and let people love you. Yes, because that's who
(18:16):
God made you, right, you know, Yes, and those no's
and those things that you're dealing with, those constant just
like pushbacks. As an artist, there has to come to
a point where you're like, ow, you know, like what
is this for?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes? Yeah, what is the purpose? And yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Man, I mean the rejection is brutal in this industry,
and you highlighted, you know, the industry wanting to kind
of conform, you know, conform you and kind of put
you into this box. And I have experienced that time
and time again with you know, my love for country music,
but my love for the Lord being of most important
(18:58):
you know, in my life. And so you know that
affects everything the songs I write, you know, but it's
the separation between you know, even just the industry and
the country music industry and the Christian music industry. And
you know, so many times I've been asked, Okay, so
are you a country artist or are you a Christian artist?
And we're just we're just confused. We're just confused on
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and it's like, well, this is who God's made me
to be. You know, I've been called to be in
country music, to be a light you know, for Him
in this space, but also be unashamed of my faith,
you know, not hide that light or try to conform into,
you know, what a country label would would expect from me,
or even what a Christian label would expect from me.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And so I have dealt with that. I'm still dealing
with that, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's something that I'm you know, on my knees about
all the time, like, Lord, help me navigate this, you know.
But I think when you're called to do something doesn't matter,
even if it's outside of music. Whatever you've been called
to do in your life, the Lord will equip you
with what you need to pursue that dream that he's
put on your heart. And I have seen that He's
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been faithful even in the nose the times when I've
felt like, oh if I just change.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
A lyric here, or wear this here, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But again, I've not been perfect in that, Like I'm
still learning, I'm still grown in that. But what He's
put on my heart to do, I know he's going
to give me the tools to be able to do.
And that's for anybody listening like that may have a
dream that feels a little crazy or a little outside
the box, or doesn't fit with what the world may
look at as you know, shiny, and you know that's
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we're all on mission here for the Lord.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
So luckily you're one of one, you know what I mean,
Like you are the only Brindley Brown in the world.
So yes, music executives, can we have you heard of
Carrie Underwood? Have you heard of Hillary Scott from Lady
Exactly have you heard of Brandon Leake? Have you know
what I mean? Like this isn't an anomaly here, like
there are so many artists that are unapologetic about their faith,
that are successful, that can do things, and so good
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for you, Like I just want to encourage you and say,
like so many young women, I mean, you've been doing
this since you were a teenager. You're on the voice,
you made it to the semi fi or semi final us.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, you've you've you've been You've been.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Through all these things as a teenager and then continuing
on and to not change who you are for the
industry or for other people's you know, well being gain
good for you. And I just can't help but think
about the Lord just smiling at you and saying like
already well done, you know, thank you, And I just
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I don't know, there's just we love encouraging.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
All this and you're fired up and feud up to
be a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
On it on the lamp stand, like we just want
we spiritual fa It doesn't make sense. It's not logical,
like even the things that people are saying, like the
box of like it's not logical because of all the
thing reasons you just said, so it only fires me
up more. I'm like, it doesn't actually make sense. Like
it's not like so were you are you pop or country?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Are you atheist? Country?
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like it's always they draw the line, they draw the money.
It just doesn't make sense. And it does when you
understand really what's going on behind the scenes. And I
know I'm touching on some.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Just gave me a look.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
She's like, Okay, it's true, but it's true.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Like that is something that I do think. Jesus and
country music, there's something happening. Yes, it's breaking down God's country.
I love even the idea of like this is God's country.
And that's always been the statement of America. It's why
I love America. We just became citizens, praise God. So
I just allegiance to God's country. And now like I'm
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seeing what God's doing in country music, country music and
Jesus is he was always at the center of this
country and these songs and this this genre, this life is.
Jesus has always been at the center. He's always are
the roots. The enemy is trying to you know, no, no, no,
go on, you little box, which is what Matthew five
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A lot under a ball, yes, not a lot on
a lampstand. Jesus was always at the root and the
center of country music, yes, and I love that. So
thank you for fighting for that and not not not
yet not giving in.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well, I just am reminded to you. It's like, you know,
I just I just recently wrote this song with a
friend of mine. Her name is Shrea Jones, and her
and I were just talking about this exact thing, and
you know, I was I was at a Christian label
at the time, and she's been in kind of conversations
with country teams and Christian teams and kind of navigating that,
and you know, has a very similar heart to mine,
Like feels like she's just been called to country music
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but to talk about Jesus and write about Jesus. And
so we were just chatting about this, and we wrote
this song called Gatekeeper. You know, because a lot of times,
you know, there's this conversation in town and the music industry.
It's like, well, if you know this person, or if
you can get to this person, if your music's heard
by this person and you know, then then it's gonna
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pop off. Then it's gonna you know, be heard or
if this person likes it. And we were just talking like, Okay,
if God's proud of what we're doing, you know, we're
doing it to the best of our ability, with excellence,
to the best that we can, whatever genre, wherever that
fits for making him proud. He's the gatekeeper. Like promotion
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does not come from the East of the West. I
have to remind myself of that all the time. That
doesn't mean, you know, work hard, you don't. You know,
we're like hitting the ground running, right, We're like hit
the pavement here.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You're like you have to. But I think this industry
it's like, okay, it's all or nothing. It's like you
give it your soul, you give it your all, and
then that's how you're gonna make it. You hear these stories,
but I just.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Believe that God doesn't work like that, and he works
in behind the scenes, right, he's wor king. I know that,
And but doesn't come from.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
A gatekeeper at radio or a gatekeeper at a label.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So we wrote this little line that's like you don't
need a key when you know the gatekeeper.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's like, I don't need.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
To try to strive to get approval from man. Right,
I just got to make my father proud of the
best of my ability. And again that's a daily you
know struggle, right, because it's just it's so easy to
look around this industry, you're comparing, you're seeing this working,
you're even those people in the country Christian space. Even
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for me, it's like, okay, but the Lord has a
plan for each one of us, and so just trusting that.
But know one like, Okay, I don't need to get
to this gatekeeper at radio. It's like, if I'm making
my father proud, that's where I got to stay. I
was thinking of like a horse with blinders on, so
like when they're in their race and they've got those
little you know, cups by their eyes. They're just like,
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all right, this is what God has called me. This
is where I'm this is where I'm going. Yeah, So
that's been helpful for there.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Was a someone was talking about something similar that I've
heard of, like.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Running a marathon. Okay, are you're running something? What is it?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
In track?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
There we goes.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
You're running track, right, you're all on in lines, Yeah,
in your own in your own lane. They're like, you're
going so fast your legs are moving so fast that
if you take a peek, you literally will trip and fall.
And what a good reminder for all of us that
comparing yourselves, looking at what somebody else is doing, Oh,
their success is way better than mine. Oh my gosh,
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why are they so much further? You stumble?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So, literally running.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Your own race and staying in your own lane is
so important. Yes, And I love that you brought that up,
because that's another spiritual warfare of like comparison, yes, making
you know, making believing lies about yourself. Yes, and in
just such a comparing industry. Yes, what an an unbelievable
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attribute for you to have to acknowledge that and say, no,
that's not what my God says about me, right, Yeah,
So I'm just encouraging you in that because that's I
think it's just awesome too. How you were talking about earlier,
you were talking about your Bible study, the call in
Bible study. I don't know who's watching this or listening
to this right now that you keep making excuses about
not joining that Bible study.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Join one on the phone, come on alone, enjoy mine.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It's a women's Bible study. If your lady out there
soldiers for faith.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, it's it's it's been the best thing anyway to Sorry.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
No, I just love that you do it on the
phone because people are like, well, you know, Wednesday night
doesn't work for me, or this doesn't work for me.
Like a thirty minute phone call that can work for someone.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Absolutely, yeah and easy. And it's it's the way that
we get the word into us. It's like man to
have people like, man, I don't understand it, you know, awesome,
get on the phone to talk to someone ask. There's
plenty of people who will walk that out with you.
And that's what I love to do. I love h
opening the word to God and be like, let's see
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what's here, because it is, it's everything. It's the just
by coincidence is the number one best selling book of ever,
just by.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Coincident, literally yeah, just of all time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
At all times.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Christians are popular and not personally, I don't know, it's
just to me, it's not a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's not a normal book.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, every other book is normal, just divine yes, And
I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, it's not. It's obvious clear to me.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So I just love the Bible.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Yes, I'm a Bible.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Guy, and then Bible studies too.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I love being challenged where if I have something that
I believe or think I believe, and then somebody can
challenge me in that, I think there's such a it's
such a great way to grow, especially among peers are
people that you trust, to be able to have those
hard conversations where it's like, actually, one of my best friends,
she is Mormon, and she's in our Bible study, and
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we all talk about everything that she believes, and then
we'll talk about what we believe, and it's just like
depositing knowledge and challenging.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
People and what they believe.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I think it's just so great to have those conversations
and understand why people believe other things. So that way
you're not you know, you're not what's the word I'm
looking for, You're not ignorant to what they're believing. You're like, oh, okay,
I understand why you believe that, but here's what the
Bible says.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I'm bringing that's that's the point of where it's like,
it's not about my opinion versus your opinion. Yes, and
that's where a lot of things go wrong. Yeah, it's
like I'm not. I'm not just like preaching my little
side of the Bible that I'm really passionate about. And
I think that's what a lot of the time the
temptation is. Yeah, but it's like, no, the whole scripture. Yeah,
like the whole entire witness and counsel of scripture.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, that's everything.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, and so old Bible makes a whole Christian, Like
that's what I.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Bible makes a whole Christian. Say that again. The kids
in the bad Yeah, it's really good. That is again we.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Get into so in a nuance and the enemy loves
to be like yeah, yeah, Bible's great. It's like yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, this part of it. Oh yeah, it's
like no, come on, it's like be teachable, be open.
It's like even people who know the Bible, the more
you know, the more you realize humility, teachability like a child,
like you grow into reliance, not into like confidence in
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my own skills or knowledge. It's like no, I'm like
I don't know anything, you know, but I know, like
that's I'm learning.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I want to learn, and I.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Think God opposes the proud. There's another scripture that is
like dang, yeah it checks me mirror.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Looking at and going, oh, okay, that's that's not good.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And you're like, yeah, that was for me for first
the first time.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
You're like, no, I don't want to then I just
now I'm just like this, I'm laughing. I laugh and
I'm like, what an idiot? Yes, Like I just literally
was believing that the Earth was flat and no.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I'm just kidding. I'm not getting into that. But it's like, I.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Feel like we've bring this up every once in a while,
we're gonna have to do We're gonna have to do
one of just us talking on tune into that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I'd be here for that. I love it. No, it does.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It shapes and refines you. And yeah, sometimes you're hit
with whoo, like I I've I was seeing that wrongly.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I was not. But even with your friend too, it's like,
you know, the Lord.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I just think about how the Lord met people in
the Bible, how he's still meeting people today. It's in
the most unlikely of places, like for me, I didn't
meet him in church.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know, I believe Jesus is you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Can meet him anywhere, and you know, and I'm so
passionate about my music right reflecting that. But even with
your friend who you know is of the Mormon faith,
it gives us the tools too, like to meet those
people with love and to be able to share truth
with them, like just the knowledge of knowing what's in
the Bible and like, hey, this is what God says,
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like this is his word. And it's really been helpful
because I have friends, you know in the Catholic faith
difference that you know may not be a Christian and
being able to have like healthy conversations, I think is
really important. And it's like, how would the Lord be
talking to him, like he would say, hey, this is
the truth, but in love. And so how do we
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reach those people, you know, to the best of our
ability the way the Lord would you know, Like and
it's his word through us, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's Him working through us.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
There's so many times like when I've had just these
situations like in the industry where you know, I met
with these conversations and totally like divine appointments. I call
him like they're not out of the Lord's hand, but
He's gonna again.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Equip you with the words. I will give you the words.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's another Screucier verse, like it is His Holy Spirit
speaking and working through us in those moments, because if
I was talking, I would be messing it up. I
would be saying the wrong thing, you know, at the
wrong time. And so I'm grateful for that. But having
that knowledge of the Word and like a whole bringing
that whole Bible, like you know, like having that to
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be able to speak to people, you know, in that
way is critically important. Like if we're walking out our faith,
you know, the.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Whole Bible makes a whole Christian. That's just good. I
can't get over that.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, it's so so I don't know if I can
claim that yard I've probably heard that somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Sorry, don't call me on it.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
We'll find out.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Get credit twice and then after that you've kind of
your licenses.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Oh that is right, all right, Well then I probably
do a couple practically.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Can I ask this question practically? Like I agree with
so all of that stuff is gold, And it's like
I've struggled to believe, you know, there's been people have
conversations with it, struggle to believe, Like, how does this relate?
I get the principle, I arguably would agree with you
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on the principle, but like I really unpacked it. It
came alive to me when I went through it, so
like a crazy spiritual warfare story, like do you have one,
Like like obviously the opery and the stuff, and you
see you feel the resistance.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, you feel the pushback.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, it's subtle to subtle to everyone else and like,
but to you, it's real. It's like yeah, full on,
yeah you can. It's not something you're you're over exaggerating
in any way, but like, what would you say practically,
what are some examples take us through it? What does
it feel like to be in a spiritual warfare more
than the rhetoric of it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, that's such a good question, because it it is.
I mean, I think the best word to explain it
is it's brutal. And I think it's come from different
angles for me, like normally, I feel like mentally is
kind of where with comparison with you know, hey, if
you don't do this, you're not going to progress in
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your career. Most recently I had some spiritual warfare like
with my own family.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Like believers that were like, hey, we just like.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Don't know if you're going to progress in your career
because you're so bold about your faith, and that hit differently.
That's my own family, and so I think man, And
another thing too is you know, she was talking about
like technical difficulties like experiencing that here on the podcast.
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So much of that at shows, for sure I've experienced.
But also my voice, like the enemies trying to tack
my voice so many times where I'll lose my voice
like it wasn't sick, just have some vocal issues or
so those things are very real. And again I think
the weapon is the word being in the word, but
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also prayer because it's gonna you know, it's gonna fight.
Especially on the mental side. For me, it's like that's
where it's finding that getting away with the Lord time
to be able to prepare for that. I feel like now,
like it sounds kind of weird, but I feel like
I've gotten reps in And when I say, I feel
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like I can now recognize the tactics from the enemy.
I feel like I'm better equipped because I've been through it. So,
you know, does it make it any easier? No, Like
that's a reality, But I think then I'm reminded of like,
all right, I got to carry my cross, I gotta
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pick it up.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, and I think too, like a very tangible spiritual
warfare situation that happened with me was with my kids.
My my husband and I both have amazing families I
grew up with. It was always financial issues growing up.
I have five siblings. We were always dealing with a
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lot of financial things. So my husband and I have
made this promise to ourselves that that will never be
something that we argue about, something that you know, hinders
us from doing what we need to do. So it's
like the second we start to make this headway and
start to you know, turn the generational curse, my daughter
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starts having these dreams and at this time she's two
years old.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
She wakes up and she's, you.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Know, my great great grandma told me that I should
kill myself. My two year old is saying this, Wow.
So my husband and I look at each other and
we're like, what was that? So we start asking your questions, well,
what did she look like? That kind of stuff. She's
quite literally describing my husband's great grandmother, great grandmother. So
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he's like that that is her. So it became a
you know, what kind of attack is this we were
just very and it got to a point where, and
I'll be honest, like I was scared to walk around
my home. Yeah, I was like I don't want to
go upstairs by myself, that kind of stuff, to where
if my husband was out of town, I was just like,
we're not going up too, We're staying down here, We're
not going up those in that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
And it took a little.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Over a year of just like constant reminders, constant you know,
like praying over our home, removing certain things from our
home that you know somebody left or you know that
just wasn't hours, and reminding myself that like the power
of the Holy Spirit lives in me, so I can
command these things to leave my home.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
And like walking in.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Spiritual authority is such a I don't know, people think
it's like taboo and weird, but it's just such a
powerful thing to know that like I can command evil
to leave in the name of Jesus and it's not
allowed to come back, you know what I mean. And
so it's just like this prayer every single night before
we go to bed, we annoy our bedposts in the
blood of Jesus. Y the enemy is not allowed to
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disrupt our sleep tonight. We are going to sleep peacefully.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
That kind of stuff. And it's just like.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Through my daughter reminding me that I have the power
of the Holy Spirit and knowing that how important and
how just like powerful that is was just one of
those things where it's like a child is teaching me
how to be a better mother, a better leader, spiritually, emotionally,
all the things. And those are like scary spiritual warfare
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moments where it's like a tangible attack on my children
and I'm like, so, no, you can do whatever you
want to me, but you will not touch my kids.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I don't know that's how.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
God sees us.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You think about that, it's like that's God's protection over
us so that we don't have to live with that fear.
But it is real, right, and so it's and I'm
so thankful that you share that story because I'm sure
so many people have experienced.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
That in walking with the Lord.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
That is such a real thing, and I'm grateful that.
But it's always amazing to me too. I think when
I've gone through just different spiritual warfare experiences, like what
the Lord has taught me every single time something different,
it's something new, and so I'm grateful for.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
How he can also use that in a way.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I know it sounds odd because it's like it's the enemy,
which you know, he doesn't have any rule or reign
exactly what you said, but how he has strengthened my
faith through that because you again are hit with just
how real he is and how he shows up. Yeah,
and so I'm but I'm grateful you shared that story
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because I think you know that is such a it's.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Such a real example of the ways.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That you know, I don't even want to say his name,
but the devil can work, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah, that's kind of good.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
I wrote a song called Dear Lucy and it was well,
it's I just don't want to talk about it, but
it was because I can feel like I can feel
in right now. And when you go through something like
that and you're a two year old says something like that,
that's not someone said something or a real on Instagram
I read or somebody like this. But when that hits
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you that close to home, it's like, all right, all
beds are off. I mean, it's not about like the
person that person's crazy over there.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Like no, no, that's this is different. This hit my home.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
This doesn't make sense a two year old saying like
this isn't from watching Bluie. You know this isn't from
like this was what? And so when it when like
you say, when you go through the fire, you feel
Jesus the closest, And that's when I met him going
through that trial in the fire. Also when you are
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aware of like that Bible says that the enemy, be alert,
be aware. The enemy is prowling around looking for whom
he can devour. They're pretty strong words. So it's like, okay,
when I'm aware and alert because I can I can
sense like the torment in nightmares of my two year old.
That's something on like suicide ideation. That's like I am alert,
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Like I'm alert, like there's an intruder in my house,
Like if someone comes into my house. I have four
children and a wife, I am highly I am not.
This happened to me in Australia where my garage door
came up and someone came in and I was like
lying in bed and Lauren's like someone's in the house.
And I was like this fast asleep in dreamland and
in two seconds I'm like bang, like through the door.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
With my four iron.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
That's all I could find. I had a four iron
go because I was practicing my golf swing, and I
am like, dude, within two seconds, I'm there and I'm
being that front on and to me, that's exactly how
it should be when we and if the enemy can
convince you that, no, that's not there's no one in
your house are you talking about? Did God really say that,
which is, by the way, the original lie of Eden?
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Did God really say that that is real in the
Is that really in the Bible? If you're feeling that,
can I tell you that's not God's voice? That never
has been God's voice. Did God to question what is
literally in inerrant, perfect, beautiful, powerful word of God. That's
the enemy. You're like, ah, that's too far. Everything that
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the enemy does is a perversion of truth. If you
think about it, this is absolute truth, and it's like twisted,
whether rotated, upside down or direct flip of the meaning.
I'm not even gonna say it because I'm Morgan, will
chop it. Edit God, God, I did not mean to
gaslight Morgan.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I just did. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
I I just don't. I'm just saying those who have ears,
let them hear everything. If you trace the logical thing everything,
you can find truth just by finding the mirrors, the
mirror perversions. Nothing else exists in the world like that.
It's like wild throw the images up on screen right now.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Maybe let's go, let's go for it. All I'm saying
is I just came. We all came with our guns
out of our horses this morning. And I can feel it.
And I even just in this conversation, you feel the tension.
And I'm like, when I feel that, the spirit of
fear wants to get you back down, and I am
learning to run towards it. I am learning with my
(44:13):
armor and with my sword on. Not ignorant of the
enemy schemes. But I'm like, now that is a light
and I'm the mosquito and I'm just I can't stop now,
Like it's something shifted in And this is what God's
doing in the world, is there's a shift in the
awareness and scales are falling off your eyes. The world
(44:34):
is binary at its core, light and dark. It's spiritual,
Like this isn't just we're getting a little bit more aware.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, and it's beautiful and it's awesome where you'll learn
it from. Like you said, that feeling of just being
scared in your home.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And not knowing what to do.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Now a year and a half later, walking in my
home with authority, ha, you think you're allowed to stay?
Speaker 6 (45:01):
See you later, you know that kind of thing. And
even my daughter.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Now she's in preschool and she's learning, she'll be like, Mommy,
you know we can't see if it's dark. God made light,
so there's light in the darkness. And I'm like, yes,
he did, sister. Literally, I just said, you know what
I mean. And it's just so cool how you being
a mom is the best because she's teaching me something
new every day, and it's she's literally reminding me of
Scripture some days and I'm like, you know what, I
(45:25):
needed to hear that, sister, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
And then she'd be like, oh, you know, and there's
something else than the next day.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
But man, there's just something so cool about walking in
authority and not being ashamed to talk about it. Yes,
just like you're doing every single day.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yes, well that's very kind.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
But I loved all that you guys shared, and I
can't wait to be a mom one day. But I
think that it's so beautiful just thinking about childlike faith
and like just how much how much we learn from kids.
And I have a younger brother, and he was such
a blessing in my life. I shared a little bit
about my mom's health journey and she was able to
(46:06):
have my little brother fifteen years after I was born.
So I was the only child for fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
And then I have a fifteen year old, fifteen younger brother,
you do.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, I love that, and it's been it's been the
most special, special relationship. And he's such a blessing in
my life. But he teaches me things every single day.
You know, he's nine now, and man, just some of
the things he says and just his faith, like he
just does not doubt. He's like, oh, God's with us,
like I know, and it's just it's it's a gift.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
It's a gift.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
So I'm and and the work that you know, moms
do in motherhood, like it is so important.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Their role is so important and I hope you know that.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I feel you know that, but what God has gifted
you and that is just critical important, just of importance.
And I can't wait to be a mom for for
that reason, just to like be able to you know, oh,
raised kid.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Can't wait for you to be a mommy there because
it's the best thing ever. The world just makes you
so scared of motherhood nowadays with all these like reels
and videos and I'm just like, yeah, it's hard, but
it's so awesome, Like, what are you talking about the
greatest gift? Yeah, I wanted to touch on this really
quick because I feel like you post a lot of
your quiet time online, like when you are in the
Bible or you are reading something, you write something, and
(47:22):
you wrote something so profound.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Jesus, She's like, what are you going to say?
Speaker 4 (47:28):
It's just in the side and like the notes part
of your Bible, it says in lack, thank him in much,
thank him in a no, thank him, and yes thank
him and lonely thank him in love thank him. He
calls us a people made to praise him, so we'll
find a reason to praise him, even if it cost us.
And I think that literally is just kind of like
(47:50):
a bow wrapped on the end of this episode of
like exactly what we're talking about. And then for Thessalonians
five eighteen, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is
the will of God no matter what.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yes, He is with you, Yes he is for you. Amen.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
And I just I just want to say thank you
for being open online about your faith because that is
going to help somebody.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's my prayer. That's thank you for sharing that and that.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Honestly, I don't share you know everything, you know, like
in my quiet time, but I do pray and I
do always hope to use it in that way because
it is such a you know, it can be such
a dark thing.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
And you know, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Specifically I shared that just a few weeks ago, and
I was reading in for Thessalonians and that is like
what he put on my heart is because it's just
what I was walking through. Like, so I'm grateful if that,
you know, can reach somebody and encourage them in their faith,
even if they don't know God at all, and they
read that and they're just touched, they know that they're
(49:00):
not alone.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
That you know, I feel the same things. I go
through the same things, but that faith in God is
what gets gets me through it through it all.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
So yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I always like to end things by asking, just in
your life right now, things that you're praying for, believing
for what we can do, or how we can pray
for you.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh, man, that's so kind.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I've never been on a podcast where they have asked that,
So that's super awesome.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I goodness, geez, I think I'm just thinking, honestly, I
just want to I actually want to answer that honestly time.
So I'm just not that I haven't this whole time,
but I'm just thinking I could give you a list.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, I'm kidding, you.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Know, I'd really love prayer for the Bible study that
I'm in, actually that I'm there's currently quite a few
ladies just in that study that our work walking through
a lot of different health issues, specifically, you know, one
(50:15):
being my mom and uh, to make a really long
story short, the house that uh they're living in my parents,
they just found a lot of mold in this house,
uh and not a little, like a lot, And so
we've just been we we're thanking the Lord because it
(50:40):
revealed one of the reasons why she's not been doing
well and she still has lime lime lime disease, and
so it's really brought a lot of those symptoms back
and a lot of the symptoms that she dealt with
when I was younger, and so that's been very hard
to say, uh the least been really difficult. But we're
(51:01):
thankful that God revealed that so that it.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Can be taken care of.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
But just for her, for her healing and uh, for
her body to just she actually has a doctor's appointment.
I'm headed to after this to meet her there. And
so yeah, just for for her treatments for some of that,
for her lime disease. There's a beautiful lady, her name's Nicole.
She's walking through cancer right now. Just just praying for her, Yeah,
(51:28):
and just the Bible study as a whole. These ladies,
you know, they've really like changed my life, They've really
impacted my life, like so just that they're touched, you
know by the Lord. And yeah, just for some healing
through through some of those ladies' lives and their health specifically.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
All Right, well, I'm gonna pray us out. I love that,
do youar having?
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Like Father, Lord, just thank you for sweet conversation, thank
you for Brendley and her openness to just talk about you.
Thank you for her unapologetic faith God, and we just
pray that over her that you would continue to give
her the strength and the courage and the tools to
fight the good fight and to continue to be unapologetic
about who you are and speaking the name of Jesus.
(52:11):
And we're just grateful for her willingness to open and
lead a Bible study God, even on the phone. Lord,
thank you for the conversations that these women have. And
we just we pray that they all just continue to
grow closer to You. And we just as some of
these ladies walk through health issues. God, we pray over
Nicole and her cancer diagnosis, Lord that you would just
(52:33):
you would just heal her from the inside out. God,
that the doctors, the nurses, everybody who's involved with her treatment. Lord,
you would just give them supernatural strength and wisdom to
know exactly what to do to help this cancer go away.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
God.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
And we just we pray specifically over Brinley's mom and
we just we ask for healing for her.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
God.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
We just we pray and say thank you for revealing
that there was mold in their home. Lord, And now
we just pray it all out in Jesus' name, God,
and we pray over these treatments and we just ask
that you would line up her mom's body with your
word that she is whole and healed in Jesus' name, Lord,
that you would just do what only you can do.
(53:13):
You're a miracle worker, God, and we are believing in
miracles and healing over not just Brendley's mom, but over
Nicole and over any of the other women who are
facing any of these health issues. God, and we just
say thank you for who you are, and thank you
that in the midst of these diagnoses we still have hope.
We have hope in you, and we just we're grateful
(53:34):
for who you are and who you've made us. Lord,
Thank you, and we pray all of this in your
Son's holy name.
Speaker 6 (53:41):
Amen.
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