January 21, 2026 • 40 mins
This week on The Upload, host Brooke Taylor sits down with country artist Dylan Marlowe for a raw and thoughtful conversation about faith, calling, and learning how to keep God at the center in an industry that constantly pulls the spotlight toward self. Dylan opens up about when faith became personal for him — not inherited, but chosen — and shares the unforgettable story of how a friend’s mom quite literally pulled him back into church to say yes to Jesus. He reflects on the people who modeled Christ for him growing up, including his grandfather, and how those early examples continue to shape the man, husband, and soon-to-be father he’s becoming.
The conversation dives deep into navigating success without losing your soul. Dylan shares the tension of being a public figure, the temptation to chase viral moments, and the conviction he’s felt to walk away from controversy — even when it could bring more followers. He introduces a powerful concept he calls the “glory tank,” explaining why time with the Lord has to come before applause, affirmation, or the stage. Dylan also speaks honestly about life on the road, spiritual discipline in dark environments, and why leading worship for a handful of people has sometimes been more fulfilling than sold-out shows. As he and his wife Nat prepare to welcome twins after a season of infertility,
Dylan reflects on prayer, patience, and trusting God’s timing — even when the waiting feels heavy. This episode is for anyone wrestling with purpose, pressure, and the desire to live differently — choosing faithfulness over fame and obedience over approval.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, y'all. This is Dylan Marlowe. Yeah, it's definitely
tough because you see, like a lot of other things
get glorified in this industry where you're like, what the heck,
Like that would be super easy for me to go
do that. I want to headline arenas and stadiums, you know,
that's like the goal. But I want to do it
the way God wants me to do it and not
the way I want to do it, like you know,
the fruits that I carried by by when you look
(00:20):
at it or when you meet me or when you
talk to me, like, that's my goal. I want people
to know like, Okay, this is what Dylan's about, and
this is the upload. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
How are you? How's everything?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, it's been great, probably slowing down for the year.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Slowing down, Bro, you're expecting twins?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, I know, well, the music slowing down. The parenting's
about to pick up.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Man, I'm so excited for you. That was one thing
that I was so excited to talk to you about
today because I just feel like the mindset of becoming
a parent, Man, what a weight that just carries crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So excited. I'm ready, though I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, if you don't know, Dylan is on the upload
today and I'm so excited to chat with you and
dive into you about just lots of things. But I
want to first start off our conversation with just talking
about the word faith. It means such different things to
so many different people, and I'm just curious what that
word means to you specifically.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think it's like faith to me, is just like
believing what you can't physically see with your eyes, but
just like knowing in your heart, like believing what you
believe in your heart.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
One of the things that I love about faith is
just like you said, you can't see it, but you
believe it. And my little brother actually was recently talking
about just like Jesus and faith and that kind of stuff,
and he's like, you do realize you guys sound crazy, right,
And I was just like, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But yeah, No, it's either yeah I saw something yesterday butcher.
But it's just like we either believe in something some
lunatic dude who this whole thing's crazy, or we believe
in like just the most perfect person that's ever walked
on the earth.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And I like to believe that one, Yeah, the one
that's kind, the one I don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
When it comes to faith specifically, we all have different
walks as Christians and what we you know, how we
go about things. When when did faith become like real
for you where you got to choose faith, where it
was your decision.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? Probably, Uh maybe when I moved out of my parents' house,
not that they like help me back or anything. I
think you just get so many decisions you get to
make on your own, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I was literally thinking about the story last night for
some reason. I was trying to fall asleep the day
that I like got saved because I had been like
baptized as a kid, but didn't really think it was
my decision, you know. And uh, I'll never forget. Her
name's miss Kim. She was my roommate's mom, and she
was always like kind of taking me to church and
like always hinting like when are you going to give
your life? You know? And then uh, one day I
(02:54):
was like, all right, today I'm gonna do it, you know.
As soon as at the end the preacher's like all right,
whoever wants to put their hand up, I'm gonna do it,
and then he didn't say it that day. So we're
walking in the car in the parking lot and she
was like, have you put any more thought into it?
And I was like, well, I was going to today,
but like, you know, he didn't ask, and she was
like she grabbed my shirt and just ripped me right
back into the church and ripped all the way back
(03:15):
to the pastor's like office, you know where he's after serving.
She was like, we got to do this right now,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
What a sweet friend.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that is so special to have those kind of
people in your life because I feel like so many
people are are scared to ask those questions, and especially
surrounding yourself with community of you know, a friend's mom
that'll be like.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Hey, no, it was really funny.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, when you think back just kind of growing up,
is there someone in your life that just kind of
models like what Jesus looks like for you growing up?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I would say probably my pop, but like my dad's dad.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, do you guys have a good relationship?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was yeah, I think so. We weren't too like
ty as we lived always like an hour away, but
that was always who I kind of like in my
head imagery, like that's who represented Jesus the most of me.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Do you ever think about that like going towards like,
you know, the I guess the incline in your life
and growing in Christ that you're going to be that
for someone else?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I hope. So, I hope I am. I feel like
he was very patient and very uh just kind of
like the role model for that. Yeah for me.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, I was just thinking about your instagram bio and
how I love when you you see people just declare
it boldly and don't have any you know, second guess
things about it. And I love that you have Proverbs
sixteen three in your instagram bio commit your work to
the Lord and your plans will be established.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, why did you choose that one?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because I feel like, especially in this like industry, it's
easy to like commit your work to yourself, you know,
or to try to, And I still like struggle with
that just given the given the work, like all this
all the labor and stuff to God, you know, and
I don't know, it's it's like with what we do.
It's just there's two different ends of the spectrum, you know.
(05:02):
So I feel like for me, whenever I can just
commit my plans to him. He shows and it might
not be like the answer you're looking for, you know,
but he shows his presence everywhere, everywhere, every time for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And being a musician, like you said, it's it's all
about you, right, You're on stage, people are watching you,
and you know, when you think about your purpose as
a musician and trying to put yourself kind of to
the side, what vision do you see for yourself? What
purpose do you see for yourself?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think just like being a light maybe in such
like a dark industry, and uh, yeah, it's definitely tough
because you see, like a lot of other things get
glorified in this industry where you're like, what the heck,
like that would be super easy for me to go
do that, and you know it probably get super megaviral
this this, you know. But I just, yeah, I feel like,
at the end of the day, I want to make
(05:51):
sure that with what I'm doing, it's just putting off
what you like, you know, the fruits that I carry
by by when you look at it or when you
meet me or when you talk to me, Like, that's
my goal. I want people to know like, Okay, this
is what Dylan's about and if it takes me a
little longer to get to where I want to be
because of that, you know, same like committ your plains
to the Lord, like he'll take care of it, you know.
(06:11):
If if this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing
one day, you'll tell me. Or if it is, I
feel like it is. I feel like I have a
calling in my life to do music, but I want
to be like, uh, I've had kids ask me before,
like I think I was doing like a photo shoot
somewhere at my buddy's farm, and this little kid was like,
mister Dylan, I have a question when when you wrote
hung Over to deer Stand, were you drunk to night before?
(06:32):
And I was like, well, those are questions I like
don't think about, you know, and like I don't know
if that's what I want to be known for, you know, yeah,
I want to be known for other stuff that.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But what a sweet realization too, where it's like, you know,
you do get caught up in things and you're gonna
say things, and we all say things that are sure
and you look back like you said and you're like,
wait a second, Yeah, I have a.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Lot of hot takes. Yeah, yeah, it's it's I could
get into it for sure, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well I want to go into those hot tapes and
things about those like what are some of those other
things in your career where you're like, man, I really
shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, like I just I don't know, like we had
we in between our last podcast and now, like there
was a time when we got kicked out of this
like festival. For while I was it was completely like
on whatever, like we were watching from the uh oh the.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Security change out.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I remember that doing absolutely like nothing wrong, you know.
But when I posted that video, I was so angry
because I mean it was a pride. It was probably
a lot of pride, like getting kicked out for all
these people. You're like, what like I just played this,
You're like, I'm doing Marlowe. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And
I posted it and everybody thought it was hilarious and
funny and cool and uh like gained so many followers
(07:46):
from this one video of controversy, you know, And then
I went to bed on it and I was just
I had this uneasy feeling, like, man, I just that's
like I don't know if I want to be known
for that like, I don't know, I just in the
back of my mind, it just didn't feel right, you know,
even though I probably could have left it up and
got like ten twenty thousand more followers from that that
one video. And I hate that I even posted at first.
(08:08):
It was in a moment of like probably anger and
pride that kind of took over, you know, and most
people will watch this, but I could stop that big
of a deal, dude, But to me, I would rather
be known for a song that comes out that just
does great as a song than a dude who got
controversy for getting kicked out of festival.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, viral video.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
For so like, those are the things that are tough
that you kind of look and you see it all
over the place and you're like, I could easily just
dive into that, and but I don't know if there's
as much fulfillment from that, you know. I told Nat
the other day, I've had more fulfillment for leading worship
to like thirty people in a rehab center than I
have any show or played.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know. I'm still like navigating, I mean honestly, and
it's been in a spot of weird, like just like
how things kind of been shapen, like what do I want? Like,
what do I want to do? Seriously, what do I
what are my goals? Have they change? I think my
goals are still the same to like I want to
headline arenas and stadiums. You know, that's like the goal,
(09:05):
but I want to do it the way God wants
me to do it and not the way I want
to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And I think there's something so special about something you
said earlier where you said I don't care if it
takes me longer than everybody else, yeah, and that that
conviction of the Holy Spirit to just be like let
me lead, yeah, and just follow me, and to completely
put yourself back. I mean, it's it's such a hard
thing to do. And I think that's one thing too
that people don't realize, Like if you're not a Christian
(09:33):
or you don't have any specific beliefs, it's hard to
think about, like, well, why don't you want to get
what you want? Or why don't you want to do
what you want? And it's hard to explain. But when
you have those convictions from the Holy Spirit, you're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, and I'm not it's not about us or our
time and for sure, and I feel like the world
has just created this insanely just like it's all about you, like,
go do it makes you happy? Go do this? Like, yeah,
God wants us to be happy, you know, he wants
us to do things that we joy. But yeah, I
don't know. The older I get becoming a dad now,
like I think, what do I want my kids to see?
(10:06):
You know? And this isn't like a judgmental thing to
anybody totally, you know, it's just like for me personally,
what I've seen and grown in my faith in the
last couple of months is just there's just more to it.
You know, there's more to all this than just being
an artist or you know, it gets to be a
cool thing I get to do. I think it's my call.
I feel like that's what I've been called to do.
There's just more to it, though, And I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think you do have this special calling on your
life because specifically, just in the middle of a show,
you're like, you know what, I feel like playing a
worship song in a bar, or you know, people are drinking,
people are having a good time, and you're like, you
know what, let's spend a little bit of time with Jesus.
And I think it's such a special thing because people
are like, well, why would you do that? And it's
like Jesus hung out with the sinners. Yeah, he wants
(10:48):
to reach everybody. So I think that's such a cool
thing for you to do. And I mean it really
takes a lot of guts to do something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I think one part of the calling is like
going into those places. But and there also comes like
you have to just be so like because it's so
easy to go into these environments and then lose side
of that. You just have to be so strongly like disciplined,
and like I fall short of that sometimes, you know.
Sometimes like me and Connor talked like, you know, it's
not like we don't always do like a worship thing
and they're just if the word throws it on our heart,
(11:17):
you know, like the thing in Athens was a tragedy
that week. It just felt heavy, but like it's it's
a dark the road's a dark place. Yeah, So sometimes
I'm like, God, why are you like thing me in
these places? Like maybe you know, I feel like he
wants me to be a light. But then it's it's
tough to be a light sometimes because you're like, man,
the last thing I want to do is play a
worship song right now when everybody's getting hammered and drinking,
(11:40):
and like, you know, you're like, is it going to
ruin the thing? Like is it gonna be weird? You know?
And then yeah, that's spiritual. It's it's it's warfaring. You're like,
you're singing the three songs up to it, and you're
like not even thinking about those, You're just thinking about that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So Yeah, such a cool perspective to think about, because
it's just like even daily stuff, right You're like, you
have things to do, but there's that one thing that
God keeps telling you to do, and you're not even
thinking about those three things. You're just thinking about that
one thing. Like what are people going to think of me?
Is you're gonna think I'm weird?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah? I think that the one verse that has just
got me through. And I can't I don't know exactly
where what verse it is. I just know the scripture itself.
It's it's I think it's in Matthew. Actually, I could
probably open my Bible and point it's underlying highlight and everything.
But it's just it's when Jesus just said, Hey, if
the world hates you, I hated me first. You know.
So people might get weird by things you do as
(12:34):
a Christian, or they might look down on it or
look different, but like they hated Jesus first, who literally
threw his life on the line for us so or
gave his life for us, you know. And there's just
nothing that I think we're I think we're all going
to get to heaven one day and not worry once
about what somebody thought about us. We're probably gonna wish
we would have done more.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Isn't it so funny how this? I feel like it's
called like the Instagram culture, right we all are looking
to just all of these aph MEAs sense from other people,
and how exhausting.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It's exhausting. Yeah, yeah, we Uh I'm in this, like, uh,
I do some counseling and uh it's actually a place
in Nashville called Rock House. If anybody needs that, they're great.
But we were talking about like what why as an
artist or or really like a lot of influencers nowadays,
there's a lot of people, a lot of people in
jobs that you receive a lot of glory from and
(13:25):
so we were just kind of talking like how do
you not receive that glory? And it's like, well, I
think the only way to not receive glory from people
and because what happens is you get glory from people
and then that's all you look for, you know, you
don't look for it. And uh, I saw like this,
just like cup, this like tank, and I called it
the glory tank, and I just wrote a note of it.
(13:46):
And it's like if I go out there on stage,
which I'm not saying I'm perfect by this by any means,
like I'm guilty of it being half for or not
even ful, But before I go out on stage or
before you do anything where you're gonna receive glory, like
if your glory tank isn't a hundred percent full from God,
then people are gonna fiell whatever is left in that gap,
even if it's ten percent, you know. So I just
(14:06):
think before I go on stage, before I go do things,
like I gotta spend time with the Lord, and I
gotta feel like glory tank is evident and obvious. When
I don't, you know, because then I start looking for
like is this guy this guy looks like he's bored
during the show. What the heck thing? It's a good show?
Or like this guy's got his arms croused? Is he
worried about me? And then you know the shows where
the glory tank is full, I'm not looking for if
(14:28):
Johnny down there doesn't think I'm country enough, or if
Billy over there ain't ain't happy. But you know, it's
like like we'd that's this is where I'm This is
the connection here, not not here, and I get to
entertain and like go out here and do this. So
like I think part of that pressure is like making
sure we do that for the fans, putting on a
good show. But then you could I think you could
(14:48):
tell when the glory is coming from the right place,
from God, because then you're unable to accept that from
anybody else.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Right then it just doesn't matter. Yeah, I think that's
so good. What an illustration the glory tank. Keep your
glory tank full, keep all the other you know stuff out,
the fake fuel. We don't get any of the fake
fuel in there. I want to go back to what
you were talking about a second ago about how you know,
being on the road and how there's temptations on the road.
There's it's easy to fall, you know, fall short and
(15:15):
to give into those temptations. But keeping yourself grounded in
your relationship with God, in your marriage, all of those things,
when you're out on the road, when you're dealing with
all of those things, how do you keep yourself anchored
while you're going through all of that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, Nat is a huge part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's his wife.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
By the way, my life, Nat, we started praying out
loud before we go to bed. Yeah, I started praying
out loud over us. There's like occasional nights where I'm
just exhausted and can't even hold my eyes open. Then
she'll pray for us. But I pray nine I am
percent of the time out loud for us every night.
Because we also read the stat that couples that pray
out loud for each other have like a one person divorce.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Right, come on, somebody, we only need to start praying.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, no, so I mean we pray. I pray out
loud over us every night, which also praying out loud.
Somebody also told me one time, like the devil hears
that the enemy here is that you know that not
that praying inside of your head is bad. But when
you pray out loud and make it known like there's nothing,
they hear it, you know, right, So, uh, probably praying
out loud over our marriage, trying to surround ourselves with
(16:18):
other like minded married couples, because it's very easy to
not to just to let your kind of circle get broken.
And uh, the fact, when you really feel with people
who will hold you accountable, they don't care that you're
out here doing this or doing this like and they say, hey,
this is where I see you falling short. So I
have a tight group of people who will call me
(16:38):
out on my bs. That's what I call it. They
got me, you know, they got me tight and covered,
which has been helpful. And then uh, I've just the
band that we have, like the road family we have
has been just very carefully hand picked because it's a
dark place and and I don't want to be out
there with somebody who's I probably spend more time with
(16:58):
the guys I do not time. So I don't want
to be out there with guys that aren't like minded
on the same wavelength. I'm not saying like you got
to be a saint to come on the road with us.
I'm just saying, like it just wouldn't be smart to
go on a dark place and just have kind of dark,
negative people all around all the time. I think there's
a place to hang out with those people and like
try to show the word and give the word. But
(17:19):
I don't know if like surrounding it one hundred percent
of the time, you know. Yeah, So I think probably
like just surrounding myself with good people on the road,
Like everybody in my band is just solid dudes, solid dudes,
and they would call me out or they would have
my back in a heartbeat. Yeah, And then just trying
to stay in the word at least once a time,
once a weekend on the road. I try to stay
in it every day, but sometimes on the road is tough.
(17:41):
But we try to get like a little Bible study
going once a month on the road with the guys
in the band. And I think between all those things
combined just kind of keeps me grounded to the fullest,
you know, for sure. And it's still tough.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And I think what you're saying kind of just about
surrounding yourself with people. I feel like there's somebody listening
or watching this that that's a word for them, because
it's just like sometimes when you're surrounded by and it
could be a childhood friend that you've known.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Forever, yeah you don't. Yeah, and for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
God is trying to pluck them out of your life.
And it's hard and it's difficult, and it's just like
sometimes leaning into new community and leaning into people who
are good for you.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
For sure, gosh differ. It's tough because you kind of
feel weird, like you know, I'm loyal to a fault too,
so but uh yeah, if you're listening to this and
you're like a new artist and you're looking for a band,
like take them to coffee. That's why I did. I
took these guys a coffee and I was like, what
are your You can tell? You know, if there's Jesus
and somebody when from an hour of coffee, you know
you could tell. Yeah, I mean even even if people
(18:38):
can put like a thing on, like, you could tell.
So take take your guys a coffee and get to
know them because I feel like I learned so much
about my guys in that hour of coffee or just
hanging And also like NAT's the sermon's crazy. Nat can
pick people out of mile aways. She's like, I don't
ever need to be hanging out.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
It's crazy. I feel like a woman's deir serment period.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It's crazy. And I could be like, no, it's fine,
and she always is right.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You know, listen, I'm just going to say this right now,
Wait till she becomes a mom, because they just like magnified.
But you're just like, oh, I think she's feeling sick.
And then the mom's like, yeah, she has this, this, this,
and this, and then we need to do this to
make it better.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's crazy. I bet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I want to talk sort of about you and not
in marriage and kids coming, but first I want to
talk about just since we're on the topic of being
out on the road, I feel like we all have
moments where God just like meets us in our mess
and there's just moments in our life where you know
you can't do it without anybody but Him. Yeah, can
you remember specifically, just like maybe a moment out on
(19:39):
the road or just end life specifically where you just
you're like, man, I can't handle this on my own,
Like this is just going to be something God helps
me out of.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel like there's been times though, where I've just
been like, sometimes you can spend a lot of time
on your phone out there, and I think on our
first headline tour, I just got so consumed by you
have like eight hours free day. I think my screen
time was like ten or eleven hours a day, and
I was just falling. I was like crashing hard, and
I was like, God, I don't think you've called me
(20:07):
to come out here and do this and sit on
my phone all day and just scroll and compare myself
and do this and this. And I remember like specifically
just praying right there and then immediately just calm the storm. Yeah,
you know, And there's plenty other times in my life
where it's done that, but I feel like keeping him
close out there is has been pretty that's beneficial.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The only way to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think there was some statistic or study that was
done that it's like twelve minutes of prayer a day
can completely change your entire the way your brain like fires,
like how the nerdons and things fire in your brain.
And I think it's to a testament to what you're saying,
like a little bit of prayer goes so so far.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, he hears you. Yeah, especially in the valleys for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Okay, so let's dive into marriage. Yeah, relationship, kids coming,
because this is exciting, not.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Just one we're getting twins.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I feel like when it comes to marriage, specifically, praying
out loud, I think is such a great thing for
people to do. Has there been other ways in your
marriage where you're just like, this is how God keeps
us on track, because you know, in marriage, we all fight,
y'all have things that we don't agree with, and navigating
those things, especially as a young couple, I think it's
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it's great to get those perspectives for those listening who
maybe are new to marriage to or need a little
bit of guidance on how to seek God together as
a married couple.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think it started for me when I realized, like
I wanted to be the spiritual leader of our household
because Nat was always when me and Nat met, like,
NAT's always been light years ahead of me because her mom,
like miss Nancy just awesome. Yeah, and she just was
raised so right, And so I think there was a
little bit of catch up for us when we got
married because I just wasn't probably where I should have
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been or needed to be. Spiritually when we first got married.
So it's kind of been a fun like seeing how
I can lead our family. It's been that's been a
journey in a process of just like learning, Okay, I
don't have to be no more Bible versus than that,
you know, but I need to do this to lead
her because at first I thought, like, you know, but
I would say Natt is also very good about asking
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intentional questions, and I'm like, I could sit on a
couch for four hours with her and watch a movie
and that's cool with me, you know, but twenty minutes
of just intentional conversation goes way longer further with her.
You know, she wants intentionality. So I've learned intentionality. And
then the biggest piece of advice I guess that I
have is whenever you just feel so frustrated in marriage,
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like the immediate killer to that to like whether it's
like anger, frustration or whatever, is just like serving you know,
like even like I can't remember maybe a week or
two ago, we just weren't like arguing, but we're just
you know, you have days you're just not on the.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Same It's like I don't want to be around you
right now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It's on the same page, you know. And I was like, like,
we have a gate at our house and we opened
the clothes for the dogs in the front yard. So
I was like, I'm just she was leaving. She just
got to get I was like, I'm gonna go just
shut the gate or open the gate for and shut
it so she have to get out. And then that
immediately just like takes away any whatever. You're like, Okay,
I see I was wrong in the situation. I need
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to like apologize or you know. So I think serving
like your your spouse is probably like an immediate like
it's like an immediate advil for a headache. It just
takes it away.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That is so so good.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, that is one thing I feel like when you're
in the moment, when you're in the heat of everything, Yeah,
the last thing on your mind is what can I
do to serve my spouse, you know, and what a
what a good tool to use.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
To Yeah, and I'm still learning, you know, so like
just if you're watching this, don't think that I've got
to figure it out. I'm just figuring it out along
the way.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
How long have you guys been married?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Uh, two and a half years, okay, yeah, running on that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We're right in the honeymoon phase, crushing it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, it's been it's been so good and yeah we
yeah so excited to be a dad. That that was
a process. That's a whole story in itself, but yeah,
it was so thankful.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah did you did you guys have trouble getting pregnant.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, we tried for I want to say, we tried
for like eleven months, couldn't get pregnant. And Nat went
to this like, I guess it's a holistic doctor, which
sounds like a weird word. It wasn't like, yeah, it's
not like it's not like a weird It's not like
I thought that was like a weird juju thing or something.
It's like, no, it's just natural somebody. So they just
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I'm sure and I wouldn't care if I said this,
but she like they were just like he could do
these like amino acid testing and look at her fingernails
and say like, okay, from all my thing, I think
you just have like flow this high this and then
you might have like a candida infection, so let's tackle that,
you know, And so put her on like a candy
to diet and six weeks after that, like we got pregnant.
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But the funniest thing was is my biggest thing was
if we're gonna use somebody like a doctor like that,
because I wanted to. I was like, hey, let's just
trust God in our time, you know. And then I
got to thinking, well, some tis like you know, God
places people down here as long as the credit's not
just going to this, you know, we're not saying like
this doctor is the reason we got pregnant, like, you know,
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God led us to this doctor, and God also gave
this doctor a discernment and the knowledge that to help
us in our situation. I think about that story where
the the guy's like stuck on his roof you know,
have you ever heard this? Yep? And he's like I
sent you a boat, a helicopter and a thing like
you know, sometimes God is not just gonna come down
and exactly. So I think our biggest thing was like, hey,
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when we tell the story, like we want people to
know like this was just fully God. You know, we
just he helped us out with some pieces along the
way that Yeah, so we got pregnant. But the funny
thing is this whole pregnancy, are trying to get pregnant. Thing.
Like I later realized that I was just praying for
fertility every night and I wasn't like, Hey, God, give
us a kid, a boy, girl, you know. And so
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I asked for fertility and God said, there you go,
two of them we got. We got the Bible and
get one free deal. You know. I love it, man.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I gotta say though, because I my husband and I
we struggled with infertility for like it was like a
little over a year, yeah, after we had our first
and those thoughts that start putting in especially I'm sure
Nat went through that where you're just thinking, is there
something wrong with me?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Are we going to be able to do this? And
that's that's a tough walk with God too.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, it was a tough season for sure, especially because
I've never seen Nat really like constantly upset about something
and like I'm a fixture, Like I'm a like like
if me and you were beefing, like I'm gonna try
to fix it within five minutes, Like, Hey, what can
I do to do this? You know, And there's nothing
I can do in that situation except just pray that God,
you know, God's timing and pray for patients, and yeah,
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when we found out we were in well, we were
in Alaska and we went on this like excruciating hike,
you know, and Nat crushed it. She was fine, and
she's like, I don't really feel good, and she started
like she's never not She's just the healthiest person. I know.
That was why we also was were pretty confused about
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getting pregnant because now it's like insanely healthy, you know.
But turned out it was like a lot of the
fruit she was eating had like tons of sugars and
the fruit itself. So that ended up yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah,
things I don't know knowledge enough about. But yeah, So
we get home and it's like probably three am, four am,
(27:27):
and we were like, you know, expecting to not to
like not even need to do a pregnancy test. But
then obviously, you know, we're all like she was late.
So we're like, okay, well maybe the span is just
different this month, and you know, maybe this is it.
I was pretty I feel like I was pretty optimistic
the whole time. But we got home it was like
four am, and I'm eating like air fried chicken logans
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or chicken tenders in the kitchen, and we found out
and we only had one pregnancy test and I was like,
we're going to get more, and we're like, nowhere's open,
so we like, I mean, we just like and jumped
in joy. And Yeah. It was crazy. Ysh.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's such a crazy thing, that first pregnancy test where
you're like, oh, I need like three more to confirm.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Oh. I was like, babe, we're going right now. She's
like doing it's four am, nowhere's open. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All had to sit with that one all night.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think when I fell asleep, she probably did for
a minute, but she went at the head to be
six am or seven am, and she went and got
like three or four more and she was like, they're
all pregnant.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It is so sweet, and I just I love that
story because it really is one of those things, especially
as I mean as a married couple, as a unit,
you're trying to lead and trying to diffuse. She's seeing
a negative pregnancy test and her emotions are crazy and
there's doubt and there's all of these things, and man,
what a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Onna It definitely was. And I know so many people
that I've even gone through more than that, and it
feels like going through more than that would I can't imagine.
You know, you don't really think is your whole life.
You're just taught rightfully, so before you're married, like you know,
don't get pregant, don't get pregnant. So when you start
trying to get preyed almost feels weird, weird, right yeah, yeah, yeah,
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but you spend your whole life like trying not to
and then yeah, it's crazy. I don't know. God, it's
such a blessing, I mean, and then to have like
a double busting is just like, holy cow.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, invite us into that room really quick when you
guys are getting the ultrasound there.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So we went into the to get the ultrasound, you know,
and I mean I think we were so we were
just like, please, dear God, just be a heartbeat, Just
be a healthy heartbeat. That's all we care about, you know.
And uh, I've never seen an ultrasound. I've seen them
on movies.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
They're not nice and pretty.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, so they start like doing it, you know, and
I look at the screen and I think like probably
a split second before the nurse said anything, like I
saw two little jellybean looking things and I was like,
I like put my hand over my mouth and I
was about to stand up and I was and she
was like, oh, uh well, y'all knew there was two, right, Yeah,
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we just felt it and Natalie was like no. So
I like jumped with joy, and I was very like nervous,
but I was like, this is awesome. We tried so
long for one and we got two. Like, let's go.
So I'm like five inches from the TV screen standing
up and I'm like, nat this is great. Like she's
behind me, like this is great, this is awesome. I'm
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so excited we got two, you know. And I turn
around and she's just like freaking out. I've never seen
anybody actually hyperventilate before, man. So I facetimeed her mom
and I was like, it's gonna be okay. Like there's
two though, Like we're okay, and uh so we had
just told all of our family our red Rocks were pregnant,
so then we had to go back and call everybody
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and be like, hey, we're also having twins. And I
wish we were a video in that moment, but yeah,
she was like freaking out.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Have you ever seen those videos where it's like the
couple has a baby and then they surprised with the twin.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
They never said, I'm like, that's great, that's crazy because
on NAT's seventeen weeks and she's already showing a ton
like I don't know how you would hide having twins totally,
which is sick. I think she's finally starting to feel them,
like kick around and stuff like I can't feel them
like feeling from the outside, but that she can feel him.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Like, you know, I feel like pregnancy is such a
gift from God where it's like if you go through
out a pregnancy and then when you see childbirth like
in the room, Yeah, I don't know how you can't
believe in God. It's such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I bet I'm excited. I feel like there's so many
things I've said recently where you're like, how do you
not see God in this? You know?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And what a miracle to where He's like, I'm gonna
give you a double portion. Don't even worry about it.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Now. What we're worried about is like, Okay, if we
go for another one, which we want, you know, probably
four kids another said twins could be I don't know,
let's see, man, I'm excited for you guys have you
guys talked about sort of just leading kids.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I know that seventeen weeks, you guys got a little
bit of time left.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But and that's all we've been talking about because I
feel like we've been going through just some stuff in
our marriage where we're like and we're constantly learning, like
what do we want to teach our kids? What do
like I want my kids specifically to see like vulnerability
through me. Like I want them to see like, Okay,
mom and dad like just had an argument, but they're
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they're talking about it and they're open, and they're like
there's forgiveness and there's I want them to see like
that cycle because sometimes it can be you can be
like numb to it or you can just be like
you don't see that all the time. So I want,
I think I just want our kids to see like
us being vulnerable and and feel like they can come
to us. And Yeah, there's definitely things that we've already
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talked about, like what how do we want to lead
our kids? How do we want what do they we
want them to see? Because I know they pick everything up,
you know, Yeah, so there's a lot of that already
for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, if I can encourage you guys at all. I
can say that having those conversations now is so huge. Yeah,
and watching the fruit of seeing Jesus and your kids.
I have a four year old and a one year old,
and it's just so special when it's just like you're
sitting down for dinner, yeah, and your four year old goes.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Mommy, you forgot to pray. It's just like, you know
what I did, thank you for the reminder, or.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Just singing worship songs and just we have people in
our family that are unbelievers. And to see my daughter
like crawl up and be like, hey, did you know
that God lives in my heart? And you're just like
tearing up in the background and you're like, man, just
that childlike faith. Yeah, And just having those conversations now,
like that is so encouraging because it just it just
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gets better.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, I feel like you have to prepare that. Yeah,
you know for sure. Man.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Well, I'm very excited for you guys. Congratulations. I always
love hearing what God is teaching people lately, and I
know you guys are walking into a complete new season.
Is there something that God has been maybe teaching you recently?
That's changing you guys, or changing your.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Heart probably, Like my word for the year has been obedience,
and so are obey. And that's been a thing itself,
just because like you always hear, like the Holy Spirit,
you have this discernment, like thankfully just at a spot
in my faith where I do hear from the Lord,
like I hear whenever it's time to make a decision,
like I feel this thing, and typically whenever you obey
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like what the Lord's saying, or like when you just
say yes to whatever the spear's saying or not to
whatever it's saying, like you can. Really it's pretty it's
probably the closest thing to immediate. Like it's not all
the time immediate, but the last couple of things that
I've seen have been pretty immediate. The Lord said this,
I've done this, and this has happened. I know it's
not always going to be like that, and there's probably
seasons where you wait years to see the answer, you know.
(34:37):
But I've just been learning to listen and like being
in the words so much more, and journaling and like
really not just reading but reading to like get something
out of what I'm reading, and like look for what
the Bible's saying when it says this, it's so easy
to skip over so much good stuff. And I feel
like you could read something so many times and not
see it or get something different from it every time.
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But staying in the word. Started my day with the word.
Because I'm not a morning person, but I've slowly I
think the Lord has slowly started to prepare me because
I've just been getting up a little earlier. And that
might not would say the same because she's like an
early earlier riser, like eight thirty for me's early.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, that's earlier. Yeah, but then when you have kids.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Oh, I sleep it in. But it's it's crazy the
trajectory of my days once I start in the word,
and then when I don't, I'll get like halfway through
my day and be like, why do I just feel
like this? You know?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Why does this feel off? It's like, Oh, I didn't
I didn't start this way this morning, or not even
if you know, if you don't even read, if you
just spend some time with God in the morning. Doesn't
even have to be in the Bible, can be on
the front porch with coffee, just talking to him or
anything I can tell whenever I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's it is that like tangible feeling of like equipping
yourself for the day. Yeah, And I always think it's
cool how God will use like say a devotional or
just you open your Bible, you read something, and then
something happens later that day and you go immediately back
to that You're like, oh, that's why I read that today.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah. It just he's it's there, you know, like when
you look forward, it's there. And you also can't listen
if you're not trying to hear too, Like I've been
learning that too, Like if I'm not listening to God,
I'm not going to hear him, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, You're like God, where are you? And it's just
like are your ears even open?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah? What are you doing at? Yeah? Right for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And I feel like there's just been this such move
in the world lately, like over the last like six months,
specifically for myself, I'm like, I want to memorize scripture,
like I want to know Bible versus you know, because
I always have been like, well, I'm just not equipped,
like I don't have Bible like biblical knowledge, like I
know stories and I know different verses and things like that.
But I want to go to like Matthew and be
like like, this is what you know.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
What I mean? Yeah, I have people like that in
my life. I'm pretty jealous of You're like, how do
you know that?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, well that's Mark. He's not here because he's not
feeling well. But he's kind of like that biblical sword.
I feel like sometimes or I'm like, remember that scripture?
What does that say? And he can like fire it
off and I'm like, that's the kind of knowledge that
I desire from God. And I don't know that's what
God's been teaching me is He's just like you can't.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You just have to, You just have to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah. I feel like the more you read, like you
might read like a whole passage and then just remember
I was one verse. But then there's a conversation in
two months where you're like, oh, thank god I read
that two months ago. Oddly remember that Matthew five says this, Yeah,
you know, I feel like it comes It's like learning guitar,
like you learn wagon wheel and then you're like, oh,
well this song also has a version of wagon wheel.
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Let me just twist it to that, Like, Okay, these
chords work here and then this verse works here.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, It's like I saw a wagon wheel and Joe like,
let me go to Matthew.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Wagon wheel's there too, exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh man, Well, I always like to kind of wrap
things up with is seeing how you are, how your
heart is, and how we can pray for you. Are
there specific things that we can pray for you?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Probably just I'm about to go into a season of
like probably a slower season than I've been in the
last four years, not well just just from the roads
kind of tailing off, and then with the kids coming, like,
we'll definitely take probably a couple of months off of that.
I think they're doing uh March, but they'll probably come
early with them being twins. So probably just for like
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in this season of like slowness, that I take advantage
of that and really spend time with the Lord and
really try to like deepen my faith because I feel
like it'd be easy, Like I don't know the last
time I had this much time off, So I definitely
don't want it to be like a, oh, we're falling
off or that ship's going down. It's like, no, I
think we just need a little time with you. Know,
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to get ready to be parents and then to be
parents for the first couple of months. So maybe I'll
just take a lot of advantage of the next couple
months coming up, and yeah, I can just be a
good dad.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Well, And I feel like too, like just knowing the
crazy and chaos that ensues, and I feel like the
world just specifically makes childbirth and parenthood look like this
crazy chaotic thing we're ever gonna sleep again and blah
blah blah. It is the most amazing journey. Yeah, I
love being a mom, I love you know, our family,
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and I just I think that if I can encourage
you guys in that take advantage of this slowness right
before kids, because it does get chaotic. It's just like
this organized chaos that you won't even know what the
slowness was before. But just take advantage of this slow
season because God will teach you so many things in it.
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But also like kind of like what a crazy blessing
from God to give you this insanely slow season where.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You can just be with your wife.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
You know, it's perfect, So excited for you. Yes, all right,
Well I'm going to pray us out. Yeah, and we'll
let you get out of here. Dear heavenly father. Lord,
just thank you for this platform, thank you for speaking
through us today and just glorifying your word. And we
just we pray over this next season with Dylan and
not that you would just allow them to take advantage
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of the slowness, that you would use this season to
equip them to just be a unit together as husband
and wife, but also to be a unit as parents. Lord,
and that you would just give them discernment and wiz
them and equip them with all of the knowledge that
they need to get through childbirth and get to just
one of the most amazing blessings that you could ever
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bless them with, these these beautiful little babies, Lord.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
And we just say thank you for them.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
We say thank you for the answered prayer, fertility, and
we just we just glorify you in this season and
just say we just ask that you bless Dylan and
Natalie as they go into this next season and you
just give them supernatural wisdom.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Lord. We love you. Amen.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Amen, Amen, thank you for coming again and redoing this
episode that got deleted last time.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
We got it. I know
What's up, y'all. This is Dylan Marlowe. Yeah, it's definitely
tough because you see, like a lot of other things
get glorified in this industry where you're like, what the heck,
Like that would be super easy for me to go
do that. I want to headline arenas and stadiums, you know,
that's like the goal. But I want to do it
the way God wants me to do it and not
the way I want to do it, like you know,
the fruits that I carried by by when you look
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at it or when you meet me or when you
talk to me, like, that's my goal. I want people
to know like, Okay, this is what Dylan's about, and
this is the upload. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
How are you? How's everything?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, it's been great, probably slowing down for the year.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Slowing down, Bro, you're expecting twins?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, I know, well, the music slowing down. The parenting's
about to pick up.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Man, I'm so excited for you. That was one thing
that I was so excited to talk to you about
today because I just feel like the mindset of becoming
a parent, Man, what a weight that just carries crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So excited. I'm ready, though I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, if you don't know, Dylan is on the upload
today and I'm so excited to chat with you and
dive into you about just lots of things. But I
want to first start off our conversation with just talking
about the word faith. It means such different things to
so many different people, and I'm just curious what that
word means to you specifically.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think it's like faith to me, is just like
believing what you can't physically see with your eyes, but
just like knowing in your heart, like believing what you
believe in your heart.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
One of the things that I love about faith is
just like you said, you can't see it, but you
believe it. And my little brother actually was recently talking
about just like Jesus and faith and that kind of stuff,
and he's like, you do realize you guys sound crazy, right,
And I was just like, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But yeah, No, it's either yeah I saw something yesterday butcher.
But it's just like we either believe in something some
lunatic dude who this whole thing's crazy, or we believe
in like just the most perfect person that's ever walked
on the earth.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And I like to believe that one, Yeah, the one
that's kind, the one I don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
When it comes to faith specifically, we all have different
walks as Christians and what we you know, how we
go about things. When when did faith become like real
for you where you got to choose faith, where it
was your decision.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? Probably, Uh maybe when I moved out of my parents' house,
not that they like help me back or anything. I
think you just get so many decisions you get to
make on your own, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I was literally thinking about the story last night for
some reason. I was trying to fall asleep the day
that I like got saved because I had been like
baptized as a kid, but didn't really think it was
my decision, you know. And uh, I'll never forget. Her
name's miss Kim. She was my roommate's mom, and she
was always like kind of taking me to church and
like always hinting like when are you going to give
your life? You know? And then uh, one day I
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was like, all right, today I'm gonna do it, you know.
As soon as at the end the preacher's like all right,
whoever wants to put their hand up, I'm gonna do it,
and then he didn't say it that day. So we're
walking in the car in the parking lot and she
was like, have you put any more thought into it?
And I was like, well, I was going to today,
but like, you know, he didn't ask, and she was
like she grabbed my shirt and just ripped me right
back into the church and ripped all the way back
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to the pastor's like office, you know where he's after serving.
She was like, we got to do this right now,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
What a sweet friend.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that is so special to have those kind of
people in your life because I feel like so many
people are are scared to ask those questions, and especially
surrounding yourself with community of you know, a friend's mom
that'll be like.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Hey, no, it was really funny.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, when you think back just kind of growing up,
is there someone in your life that just kind of
models like what Jesus looks like for you growing up?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I would say probably my pop, but like my dad's dad.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, do you guys have a good relationship?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was yeah, I think so. We weren't too like
ty as we lived always like an hour away, but
that was always who I kind of like in my
head imagery, like that's who represented Jesus the most of me.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Do you ever think about that like going towards like,
you know, the I guess the incline in your life
and growing in Christ that you're going to be that
for someone else?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I hope. So, I hope I am. I feel like
he was very patient and very uh just kind of
like the role model for that. Yeah for me.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, I was just thinking about your instagram bio and
how I love when you you see people just declare
it boldly and don't have any you know, second guess
things about it. And I love that you have Proverbs
sixteen three in your instagram bio commit your work to
the Lord and your plans will be established.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, why did you choose that one?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because I feel like, especially in this like industry, it's
easy to like commit your work to yourself, you know,
or to try to, And I still like struggle with
that just given the given the work, like all this
all the labor and stuff to God, you know, and
I don't know, it's it's like with what we do.
It's just there's two different ends of the spectrum, you know.
(05:02):
So I feel like for me, whenever I can just
commit my plans to him. He shows and it might
not be like the answer you're looking for, you know,
but he shows his presence everywhere, everywhere, every time for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And being a musician, like you said, it's it's all
about you, right, You're on stage, people are watching you,
and you know, when you think about your purpose as
a musician and trying to put yourself kind of to
the side, what vision do you see for yourself? What
purpose do you see for yourself?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think just like being a light maybe in such
like a dark industry, and uh, yeah, it's definitely tough
because you see, like a lot of other things get
glorified in this industry where you're like, what the heck,
like that would be super easy for me to go
do that, and you know it probably get super megaviral
this this, you know. But I just, yeah, I feel like,
at the end of the day, I want to make
(05:51):
sure that with what I'm doing, it's just putting off
what you like, you know, the fruits that I carry
by by when you look at it or when you
meet me or when you talk to me, Like, that's
my goal. I want people to know like, Okay, this
is what Dylan's about and if it takes me a
little longer to get to where I want to be
because of that, you know, same like committ your plains
to the Lord, like he'll take care of it, you know.
(06:11):
If if this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing
one day, you'll tell me. Or if it is, I
feel like it is. I feel like I have a
calling in my life to do music, but I want
to be like, uh, I've had kids ask me before,
like I think I was doing like a photo shoot
somewhere at my buddy's farm, and this little kid was like,
mister Dylan, I have a question when when you wrote
hung Over to deer Stand, were you drunk to night before?
(06:32):
And I was like, well, those are questions I like
don't think about, you know, and like I don't know
if that's what I want to be known for, you know, yeah,
I want to be known for other stuff that.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But what a sweet realization too, where it's like, you know,
you do get caught up in things and you're gonna
say things, and we all say things that are sure
and you look back like you said and you're like,
wait a second, Yeah, I have a.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Lot of hot takes. Yeah, yeah, it's it's I could
get into it for sure, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well I want to go into those hot tapes and
things about those like what are some of those other
things in your career where you're like, man, I really
shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, like I just I don't know, like we had
we in between our last podcast and now, like there
was a time when we got kicked out of this
like festival. For while I was it was completely like
on whatever, like we were watching from the uh oh the.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Security change out.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I remember that doing absolutely like nothing wrong, you know.
But when I posted that video, I was so angry
because I mean it was a pride. It was probably
a lot of pride, like getting kicked out for all
these people. You're like, what like I just played this,
You're like, I'm doing Marlowe. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And
I posted it and everybody thought it was hilarious and
funny and cool and uh like gained so many followers
(07:46):
from this one video of controversy, you know, And then
I went to bed on it and I was just
I had this uneasy feeling, like, man, I just that's
like I don't know if I want to be known
for that like, I don't know, I just in the
back of my mind, it just didn't feel right, you know,
even though I probably could have left it up and
got like ten twenty thousand more followers from that that
one video. And I hate that I even posted at first.
(08:08):
It was in a moment of like probably anger and
pride that kind of took over, you know, and most
people will watch this, but I could stop that big
of a deal, dude, But to me, I would rather
be known for a song that comes out that just
does great as a song than a dude who got
controversy for getting kicked out of festival.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, viral video.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
For so like, those are the things that are tough
that you kind of look and you see it all
over the place and you're like, I could easily just
dive into that, and but I don't know if there's
as much fulfillment from that, you know. I told Nat
the other day, I've had more fulfillment for leading worship
to like thirty people in a rehab center than I
have any show or played.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know. I'm still like navigating, I mean honestly, and
it's been in a spot of weird, like just like
how things kind of been shapen, like what do I want? Like,
what do I want to do? Seriously, what do I
what are my goals? Have they change? I think my
goals are still the same to like I want to
headline arenas and stadiums. You know, that's like the goal,
(09:05):
but I want to do it the way God wants
me to do it and not the way I want
to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And I think there's something so special about something you
said earlier where you said I don't care if it
takes me longer than everybody else, yeah, and that that
conviction of the Holy Spirit to just be like let
me lead, yeah, and just follow me, and to completely
put yourself back. I mean, it's it's such a hard
thing to do. And I think that's one thing too
that people don't realize, Like if you're not a Christian
(09:33):
or you don't have any specific beliefs, it's hard to
think about, like, well, why don't you want to get
what you want? Or why don't you want to do
what you want? And it's hard to explain. But when
you have those convictions from the Holy Spirit, you're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, and I'm not it's not about us or our
time and for sure, and I feel like the world
has just created this insanely just like it's all about you, like,
go do it makes you happy? Go do this? Like, yeah,
God wants us to be happy, you know, he wants
us to do things that we joy. But yeah, I
don't know. The older I get becoming a dad now,
like I think, what do I want my kids to see?
(10:06):
You know? And this isn't like a judgmental thing to
anybody totally, you know, it's just like for me personally,
what I've seen and grown in my faith in the
last couple of months is just there's just more to it.
You know, there's more to all this than just being
an artist or you know, it gets to be a
cool thing I get to do. I think it's my call.
I feel like that's what I've been called to do.
There's just more to it, though, And I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think you do have this special calling on your
life because specifically, just in the middle of a show,
you're like, you know what, I feel like playing a
worship song in a bar, or you know, people are drinking,
people are having a good time, and you're like, you
know what, let's spend a little bit of time with Jesus.
And I think it's such a special thing because people
are like, well, why would you do that? And it's
like Jesus hung out with the sinners. Yeah, he wants
(10:48):
to reach everybody. So I think that's such a cool
thing for you to do. And I mean it really
takes a lot of guts to do something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I think one part of the calling is like
going into those places. But and there also comes like
you have to just be so like because it's so
easy to go into these environments and then lose side
of that. You just have to be so strongly like disciplined,
and like I fall short of that sometimes, you know.
Sometimes like me and Connor talked like, you know, it's
not like we don't always do like a worship thing
and they're just if the word throws it on our heart,
(11:17):
you know, like the thing in Athens was a tragedy
that week. It just felt heavy, but like it's it's
a dark the road's a dark place. Yeah, So sometimes
I'm like, God, why are you like thing me in
these places? Like maybe you know, I feel like he
wants me to be a light. But then it's it's
tough to be a light sometimes because you're like, man,
the last thing I want to do is play a
worship song right now when everybody's getting hammered and drinking,
(11:40):
and like, you know, you're like, is it going to
ruin the thing? Like is it gonna be weird? You know?
And then yeah, that's spiritual. It's it's it's warfaring. You're like,
you're singing the three songs up to it, and you're
like not even thinking about those, You're just thinking about that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So Yeah, such a cool perspective to think about, because
it's just like even daily stuff, right You're like, you
have things to do, but there's that one thing that
God keeps telling you to do, and you're not even
thinking about those three things. You're just thinking about that
one thing. Like what are people going to think of me?
Is you're gonna think I'm weird?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah? I think that the one verse that has just
got me through. And I can't I don't know exactly
where what verse it is. I just know the scripture itself.
It's it's I think it's in Matthew. Actually, I could
probably open my Bible and point it's underlying highlight and everything.
But it's just it's when Jesus just said, Hey, if
the world hates you, I hated me first. You know.
So people might get weird by things you do as
(12:34):
a Christian, or they might look down on it or
look different, but like they hated Jesus first, who literally
threw his life on the line for us so or
gave his life for us, you know. And there's just
nothing that I think we're I think we're all going
to get to heaven one day and not worry once
about what somebody thought about us. We're probably gonna wish
we would have done more.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Isn't it so funny how this? I feel like it's
called like the Instagram culture, right we all are looking
to just all of these aph MEAs sense from other people,
and how exhausting.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It's exhausting. Yeah, yeah, we Uh I'm in this, like, uh,
I do some counseling and uh it's actually a place
in Nashville called Rock House. If anybody needs that, they're great.
But we were talking about like what why as an
artist or or really like a lot of influencers nowadays,
there's a lot of people, a lot of people in
jobs that you receive a lot of glory from and
(13:25):
so we were just kind of talking like how do
you not receive that glory? And it's like, well, I
think the only way to not receive glory from people
and because what happens is you get glory from people
and then that's all you look for, you know, you
don't look for it. And uh, I saw like this,
just like cup, this like tank, and I called it
the glory tank, and I just wrote a note of it.
(13:46):
And it's like if I go out there on stage,
which I'm not saying I'm perfect by this by any means,
like I'm guilty of it being half for or not
even ful, But before I go out on stage or
before you do anything where you're gonna receive glory, like
if your glory tank isn't a hundred percent full from God,
then people are gonna fiell whatever is left in that gap,
even if it's ten percent, you know. So I just
(14:06):
think before I go on stage, before I go do things,
like I gotta spend time with the Lord, and I
gotta feel like glory tank is evident and obvious. When
I don't, you know, because then I start looking for
like is this guy this guy looks like he's bored
during the show. What the heck thing? It's a good show?
Or like this guy's got his arms croused? Is he
worried about me? And then you know the shows where
the glory tank is full, I'm not looking for if
(14:28):
Johnny down there doesn't think I'm country enough, or if
Billy over there ain't ain't happy. But you know, it's
like like we'd that's this is where I'm This is
the connection here, not not here, and I get to
entertain and like go out here and do this. So
like I think part of that pressure is like making
sure we do that for the fans, putting on a
good show. But then you could I think you could
(14:48):
tell when the glory is coming from the right place,
from God, because then you're unable to accept that from
anybody else.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Right then it just doesn't matter. Yeah, I think that's
so good. What an illustration the glory tank. Keep your
glory tank full, keep all the other you know stuff out,
the fake fuel. We don't get any of the fake
fuel in there. I want to go back to what
you were talking about a second ago about how you know,
being on the road and how there's temptations on the road.
There's it's easy to fall, you know, fall short and
(15:15):
to give into those temptations. But keeping yourself grounded in
your relationship with God, in your marriage, all of those things,
when you're out on the road, when you're dealing with
all of those things, how do you keep yourself anchored
while you're going through all of that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, Nat is a huge part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's his wife.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
By the way, my life, Nat, we started praying out
loud before we go to bed. Yeah, I started praying
out loud over us. There's like occasional nights where I'm
just exhausted and can't even hold my eyes open. Then
she'll pray for us. But I pray nine I am
percent of the time out loud for us every night.
Because we also read the stat that couples that pray
out loud for each other have like a one person divorce.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Right, come on, somebody, we only need to start praying.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, no, so I mean we pray. I pray out
loud over us every night, which also praying out loud.
Somebody also told me one time, like the devil hears
that the enemy here is that you know that not
that praying inside of your head is bad. But when
you pray out loud and make it known like there's nothing,
they hear it, you know, right, So, uh, probably praying
out loud over our marriage, trying to surround ourselves with
(16:18):
other like minded married couples, because it's very easy to
not to just to let your kind of circle get broken.
And uh, the fact, when you really feel with people
who will hold you accountable, they don't care that you're
out here doing this or doing this like and they say, hey,
this is where I see you falling short. So I
have a tight group of people who will call me
(16:38):
out on my bs. That's what I call it. They
got me, you know, they got me tight and covered,
which has been helpful. And then uh, I've just the
band that we have, like the road family we have
has been just very carefully hand picked because it's a
dark place and and I don't want to be out
there with somebody who's I probably spend more time with
(16:58):
the guys I do not time. So I don't want
to be out there with guys that aren't like minded
on the same wavelength. I'm not saying like you got
to be a saint to come on the road with us.
I'm just saying, like it just wouldn't be smart to
go on a dark place and just have kind of dark,
negative people all around all the time. I think there's
a place to hang out with those people and like
try to show the word and give the word. But
(17:19):
I don't know if like surrounding it one hundred percent
of the time, you know. Yeah, So I think probably
like just surrounding myself with good people on the road,
Like everybody in my band is just solid dudes, solid dudes,
and they would call me out or they would have
my back in a heartbeat. Yeah, And then just trying
to stay in the word at least once a time,
once a weekend on the road. I try to stay
in it every day, but sometimes on the road is tough.
(17:41):
But we try to get like a little Bible study
going once a month on the road with the guys
in the band. And I think between all those things
combined just kind of keeps me grounded to the fullest,
you know, for sure. And it's still tough.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And I think what you're saying kind of just about
surrounding yourself with people. I feel like there's somebody listening
or watching this that that's a word for them, because
it's just like sometimes when you're surrounded by and it
could be a childhood friend that you've known.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Forever, yeah you don't. Yeah, and for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
God is trying to pluck them out of your life.
And it's hard and it's difficult, and it's just like
sometimes leaning into new community and leaning into people who
are good for you.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
For sure, gosh differ. It's tough because you kind of
feel weird, like you know, I'm loyal to a fault too,
so but uh yeah, if you're listening to this and
you're like a new artist and you're looking for a band,
like take them to coffee. That's why I did. I
took these guys a coffee and I was like, what
are your You can tell? You know, if there's Jesus
and somebody when from an hour of coffee, you know
you could tell. Yeah, I mean even even if people
(18:38):
can put like a thing on, like, you could tell.
So take take your guys a coffee and get to
know them because I feel like I learned so much
about my guys in that hour of coffee or just
hanging And also like NAT's the sermon's crazy. Nat can
pick people out of mile aways. She's like, I don't
ever need to be hanging out.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
It's crazy. I feel like a woman's deir serment period.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It's crazy. And I could be like, no, it's fine,
and she always is right.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You know, listen, I'm just going to say this right now,
Wait till she becomes a mom, because they just like magnified.
But you're just like, oh, I think she's feeling sick.
And then the mom's like, yeah, she has this, this, this,
and this, and then we need to do this to
make it better.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's crazy. I bet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I want to talk sort of about you and not
in marriage and kids coming, but first I want to
talk about just since we're on the topic of being
out on the road, I feel like we all have
moments where God just like meets us in our mess
and there's just moments in our life where you know
you can't do it without anybody but Him. Yeah, can
you remember specifically, just like maybe a moment out on
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the road or just end life specifically where you just
you're like, man, I can't handle this on my own,
Like this is just going to be something God helps
me out of.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel like there's been times though, where I've just
been like, sometimes you can spend a lot of time
on your phone out there, and I think on our
first headline tour, I just got so consumed by you
have like eight hours free day. I think my screen
time was like ten or eleven hours a day, and
I was just falling. I was like crashing hard, and
I was like, God, I don't think you've called me
(20:07):
to come out here and do this and sit on
my phone all day and just scroll and compare myself
and do this and this. And I remember like specifically
just praying right there and then immediately just calm the storm. Yeah,
you know, And there's plenty other times in my life
where it's done that, but I feel like keeping him
close out there is has been pretty that's beneficial.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The only way to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think there was some statistic or study that was
done that it's like twelve minutes of prayer a day
can completely change your entire the way your brain like fires,
like how the nerdons and things fire in your brain.
And I think it's to a testament to what you're saying,
like a little bit of prayer goes so so far.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, he hears you. Yeah, especially in the valleys for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Okay, so let's dive into marriage. Yeah, relationship, kids coming,
because this is exciting, not.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Just one we're getting twins.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I feel like when it comes to marriage, specifically, praying
out loud, I think is such a great thing for
people to do. Has there been other ways in your
marriage where you're just like, this is how God keeps
us on track, because you know, in marriage, we all fight,
y'all have things that we don't agree with, and navigating
those things, especially as a young couple, I think it's
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it's great to get those perspectives for those listening who
maybe are new to marriage to or need a little
bit of guidance on how to seek God together as
a married couple.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think it started for me when I realized, like
I wanted to be the spiritual leader of our household
because Nat was always when me and Nat met, like,
NAT's always been light years ahead of me because her mom,
like miss Nancy just awesome. Yeah, and she just was
raised so right, And so I think there was a
little bit of catch up for us when we got
married because I just wasn't probably where I should have
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been or needed to be. Spiritually when we first got married.
So it's kind of been a fun like seeing how
I can lead our family. It's been that's been a
journey in a process of just like learning, Okay, I
don't have to be no more Bible versus than that,
you know, but I need to do this to lead
her because at first I thought, like, you know, but
I would say Natt is also very good about asking
(22:12):
intentional questions, and I'm like, I could sit on a
couch for four hours with her and watch a movie
and that's cool with me, you know, but twenty minutes
of just intentional conversation goes way longer further with her.
You know, she wants intentionality. So I've learned intentionality. And
then the biggest piece of advice I guess that I
have is whenever you just feel so frustrated in marriage,
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like the immediate killer to that to like whether it's
like anger, frustration or whatever, is just like serving you know,
like even like I can't remember maybe a week or
two ago, we just weren't like arguing, but we're just
you know, you have days you're just not on the.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Same It's like I don't want to be around you
right now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It's on the same page, you know. And I was like, like,
we have a gate at our house and we opened
the clothes for the dogs in the front yard. So
I was like, I'm just she was leaving. She just
got to get I was like, I'm gonna go just
shut the gate or open the gate for and shut
it so she have to get out. And then that
immediately just like takes away any whatever. You're like, Okay,
I see I was wrong in the situation. I need
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to like apologize or you know. So I think serving
like your your spouse is probably like an immediate like
it's like an immediate advil for a headache. It just
takes it away.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That is so so good.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, that is one thing I feel like when you're
in the moment, when you're in the heat of everything, Yeah,
the last thing on your mind is what can I
do to serve my spouse, you know, and what a
what a good tool to use.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
To Yeah, and I'm still learning, you know, so like
just if you're watching this, don't think that I've got
to figure it out. I'm just figuring it out along
the way.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
How long have you guys been married?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Uh, two and a half years, okay, yeah, running on that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We're right in the honeymoon phase, crushing it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, it's been it's been so good and yeah we
yeah so excited to be a dad. That that was
a process. That's a whole story in itself, but yeah,
it was so thankful.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah did you did you guys have trouble getting pregnant.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, we tried for I want to say, we tried
for like eleven months, couldn't get pregnant. And Nat went
to this like, I guess it's a holistic doctor, which
sounds like a weird word. It wasn't like, yeah, it's
not like it's not like a weird It's not like
I thought that was like a weird juju thing or something.
It's like, no, it's just natural somebody. So they just
(24:26):
I'm sure and I wouldn't care if I said this,
but she like they were just like he could do
these like amino acid testing and look at her fingernails
and say like, okay, from all my thing, I think
you just have like flow this high this and then
you might have like a candida infection, so let's tackle that,
you know, And so put her on like a candy
to diet and six weeks after that, like we got pregnant.
(24:48):
But the funniest thing was is my biggest thing was
if we're gonna use somebody like a doctor like that,
because I wanted to. I was like, hey, let's just
trust God in our time, you know. And then I
got to thinking, well, some tis like you know, God
places people down here as long as the credit's not
just going to this, you know, we're not saying like
this doctor is the reason we got pregnant, like, you know,
(25:09):
God led us to this doctor, and God also gave
this doctor a discernment and the knowledge that to help
us in our situation. I think about that story where
the the guy's like stuck on his roof you know,
have you ever heard this? Yep? And he's like I
sent you a boat, a helicopter and a thing like
you know, sometimes God is not just gonna come down
and exactly. So I think our biggest thing was like, hey,
(25:31):
when we tell the story, like we want people to
know like this was just fully God. You know, we
just he helped us out with some pieces along the
way that Yeah, so we got pregnant. But the funny
thing is this whole pregnancy, are trying to get pregnant. Thing.
Like I later realized that I was just praying for
fertility every night and I wasn't like, Hey, God, give
us a kid, a boy, girl, you know. And so
(25:54):
I asked for fertility and God said, there you go,
two of them we got. We got the Bible and
get one free deal. You know. I love it, man.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I gotta say though, because I my husband and I
we struggled with infertility for like it was like a
little over a year, yeah, after we had our first
and those thoughts that start putting in especially I'm sure
Nat went through that where you're just thinking, is there
something wrong with me?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Are we going to be able to do this? And
that's that's a tough walk with God too.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, it was a tough season for sure, especially because
I've never seen Nat really like constantly upset about something
and like I'm a fixture, Like I'm a like like
if me and you were beefing, like I'm gonna try
to fix it within five minutes, Like, Hey, what can
I do to do this? You know, And there's nothing
I can do in that situation except just pray that God,
you know, God's timing and pray for patients, and yeah,
(26:44):
when we found out we were in well, we were
in Alaska and we went on this like excruciating hike,
you know, and Nat crushed it. She was fine, and
she's like, I don't really feel good, and she started
like she's never not She's just the healthiest person. I know.
That was why we also was were pretty confused about
(27:05):
getting pregnant because now it's like insanely healthy, you know.
But turned out it was like a lot of the
fruit she was eating had like tons of sugars and
the fruit itself. So that ended up yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah,
things I don't know knowledge enough about. But yeah, So
we get home and it's like probably three am, four am,
(27:27):
and we were like, you know, expecting to not to
like not even need to do a pregnancy test. But
then obviously, you know, we're all like she was late.
So we're like, okay, well maybe the span is just
different this month, and you know, maybe this is it.
I was pretty I feel like I was pretty optimistic
the whole time. But we got home it was like
four am, and I'm eating like air fried chicken logans
(27:50):
or chicken tenders in the kitchen, and we found out
and we only had one pregnancy test and I was like,
we're going to get more, and we're like, nowhere's open,
so we like, I mean, we just like and jumped
in joy. And Yeah. It was crazy. Ysh.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's such a crazy thing, that first pregnancy test where
you're like, oh, I need like three more to confirm.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Oh. I was like, babe, we're going right now. She's
like doing it's four am, nowhere's open. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All had to sit with that one all night.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think when I fell asleep, she probably did for
a minute, but she went at the head to be
six am or seven am, and she went and got
like three or four more and she was like, they're
all pregnant.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It is so sweet, and I just I love that
story because it really is one of those things, especially
as I mean as a married couple, as a unit,
you're trying to lead and trying to diffuse. She's seeing
a negative pregnancy test and her emotions are crazy and
there's doubt and there's all of these things, and man,
what a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Onna It definitely was. And I know so many people
that I've even gone through more than that, and it
feels like going through more than that would I can't imagine.
You know, you don't really think is your whole life.
You're just taught rightfully, so before you're married, like you know,
don't get pregant, don't get pregnant. So when you start
trying to get preyed almost feels weird, weird, right yeah, yeah, yeah,
(29:05):
but you spend your whole life like trying not to
and then yeah, it's crazy. I don't know. God, it's
such a blessing, I mean, and then to have like
a double busting is just like, holy cow.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, invite us into that room really quick when you
guys are getting the ultrasound there.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So we went into the to get the ultrasound, you know,
and I mean I think we were so we were
just like, please, dear God, just be a heartbeat, Just
be a healthy heartbeat. That's all we care about, you know.
And uh, I've never seen an ultrasound. I've seen them
on movies.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
They're not nice and pretty.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, so they start like doing it, you know, and
I look at the screen and I think like probably
a split second before the nurse said anything, like I
saw two little jellybean looking things and I was like,
I like put my hand over my mouth and I
was about to stand up and I was and she
was like, oh, uh well, y'all knew there was two, right, Yeah,
(29:56):
we just felt it and Natalie was like no. So
I like jumped with joy, and I was very like nervous,
but I was like, this is awesome. We tried so
long for one and we got two. Like, let's go.
So I'm like five inches from the TV screen standing
up and I'm like, nat this is great. Like she's
behind me, like this is great, this is awesome. I'm
(30:17):
so excited we got two, you know. And I turn
around and she's just like freaking out. I've never seen
anybody actually hyperventilate before, man. So I facetimeed her mom
and I was like, it's gonna be okay. Like there's
two though, Like we're okay, and uh so we had
just told all of our family our red Rocks were pregnant,
so then we had to go back and call everybody
(30:39):
and be like, hey, we're also having twins. And I
wish we were a video in that moment, but yeah,
she was like freaking out.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Have you ever seen those videos where it's like the
couple has a baby and then they surprised with the twin.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
They never said, I'm like, that's great, that's crazy because
on NAT's seventeen weeks and she's already showing a ton
like I don't know how you would hide having twins totally,
which is sick. I think she's finally starting to feel them,
like kick around and stuff like I can't feel them
like feeling from the outside, but that she can feel him.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Like, you know, I feel like pregnancy is such a
gift from God where it's like if you go through
out a pregnancy and then when you see childbirth like
in the room, Yeah, I don't know how you can't
believe in God. It's such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I bet I'm excited. I feel like there's so many
things I've said recently where you're like, how do you
not see God in this? You know?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And what a miracle to where He's like, I'm gonna
give you a double portion. Don't even worry about it.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Now. What we're worried about is like, Okay, if we
go for another one, which we want, you know, probably
four kids another said twins could be I don't know,
let's see, man, I'm excited for you guys have you
guys talked about sort of just leading kids.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I know that seventeen weeks, you guys got a little
bit of time left.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But and that's all we've been talking about because I
feel like we've been going through just some stuff in
our marriage where we're like and we're constantly learning, like
what do we want to teach our kids? What do
like I want my kids specifically to see like vulnerability
through me. Like I want them to see like, Okay,
mom and dad like just had an argument, but they're
(32:13):
they're talking about it and they're open, and they're like
there's forgiveness and there's I want them to see like
that cycle because sometimes it can be you can be
like numb to it or you can just be like
you don't see that all the time. So I want,
I think I just want our kids to see like
us being vulnerable and and feel like they can come
to us. And Yeah, there's definitely things that we've already
(32:35):
talked about, like what how do we want to lead
our kids? How do we want what do they we
want them to see? Because I know they pick everything up,
you know, Yeah, so there's a lot of that already
for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, if I can encourage you guys at all. I
can say that having those conversations now is so huge. Yeah,
and watching the fruit of seeing Jesus and your kids.
I have a four year old and a one year old,
and it's just so special when it's just like you're
sitting down for dinner, yeah, and your four year old goes.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Mommy, you forgot to pray. It's just like, you know
what I did, thank you for the reminder, or.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Just singing worship songs and just we have people in
our family that are unbelievers. And to see my daughter
like crawl up and be like, hey, did you know
that God lives in my heart? And you're just like
tearing up in the background and you're like, man, just
that childlike faith. Yeah, And just having those conversations now,
like that is so encouraging because it just it just
(33:29):
gets better.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, I feel like you have to prepare that. Yeah,
you know for sure. Man.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Well, I'm very excited for you guys. Congratulations. I always
love hearing what God is teaching people lately, and I
know you guys are walking into a complete new season.
Is there something that God has been maybe teaching you recently?
That's changing you guys, or changing your.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Heart probably, Like my word for the year has been obedience,
and so are obey. And that's been a thing itself,
just because like you always hear, like the Holy Spirit,
you have this discernment, like thankfully just at a spot
in my faith where I do hear from the Lord,
like I hear whenever it's time to make a decision,
like I feel this thing, and typically whenever you obey
(34:15):
like what the Lord's saying, or like when you just
say yes to whatever the spear's saying or not to
whatever it's saying, like you can. Really it's pretty it's
probably the closest thing to immediate. Like it's not all
the time immediate, but the last couple of things that
I've seen have been pretty immediate. The Lord said this,
I've done this, and this has happened. I know it's
not always going to be like that, and there's probably
seasons where you wait years to see the answer, you know.
(34:37):
But I've just been learning to listen and like being
in the words so much more, and journaling and like
really not just reading but reading to like get something
out of what I'm reading, and like look for what
the Bible's saying when it says this, it's so easy
to skip over so much good stuff. And I feel
like you could read something so many times and not
see it or get something different from it every time.
(34:59):
But staying in the word. Started my day with the word.
Because I'm not a morning person, but I've slowly I
think the Lord has slowly started to prepare me because
I've just been getting up a little earlier. And that
might not would say the same because she's like an
early earlier riser, like eight thirty for me's early.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, that's earlier. Yeah, but then when you have kids.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Oh, I sleep it in. But it's it's crazy the
trajectory of my days once I start in the word,
and then when I don't, I'll get like halfway through
my day and be like, why do I just feel
like this? You know?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Why does this feel off? It's like, Oh, I didn't
I didn't start this way this morning, or not even
if you know, if you don't even read, if you
just spend some time with God in the morning. Doesn't
even have to be in the Bible, can be on
the front porch with coffee, just talking to him or
anything I can tell whenever I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's it is that like tangible feeling of like equipping
yourself for the day. Yeah, And I always think it's
cool how God will use like say a devotional or
just you open your Bible, you read something, and then
something happens later that day and you go immediately back
to that You're like, oh, that's why I read that today.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah. It just he's it's there, you know, like when
you look forward, it's there. And you also can't listen
if you're not trying to hear too, Like I've been
learning that too, Like if I'm not listening to God,
I'm not going to hear him, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, You're like God, where are you? And it's just
like are your ears even open?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah? What are you doing at? Yeah? Right for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And I feel like there's just been this such move
in the world lately, like over the last like six months,
specifically for myself, I'm like, I want to memorize scripture,
like I want to know Bible versus you know, because
I always have been like, well, I'm just not equipped,
like I don't have Bible like biblical knowledge, like I
know stories and I know different verses and things like that.
But I want to go to like Matthew and be
like like, this is what you know.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
What I mean? Yeah, I have people like that in
my life. I'm pretty jealous of You're like, how do
you know that?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, well that's Mark. He's not here because he's not
feeling well. But he's kind of like that biblical sword.
I feel like sometimes or I'm like, remember that scripture?
What does that say? And he can like fire it
off and I'm like, that's the kind of knowledge that
I desire from God. And I don't know that's what
God's been teaching me is He's just like you can't.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You just have to, You just have to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah. I feel like the more you read, like you
might read like a whole passage and then just remember
I was one verse. But then there's a conversation in
two months where you're like, oh, thank god I read
that two months ago. Oddly remember that Matthew five says this, Yeah,
you know, I feel like it comes It's like learning guitar,
like you learn wagon wheel and then you're like, oh,
well this song also has a version of wagon wheel.
(37:24):
Let me just twist it to that, Like, Okay, these
chords work here and then this verse works here.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, It's like I saw a wagon wheel and Joe like,
let me go to Matthew.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Wagon wheel's there too, exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh man, Well, I always like to kind of wrap
things up with is seeing how you are, how your
heart is, and how we can pray for you. Are
there specific things that we can pray for you?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Probably just I'm about to go into a season of
like probably a slower season than I've been in the
last four years, not well just just from the roads
kind of tailing off, and then with the kids coming, like,
we'll definitely take probably a couple of months off of that.
I think they're doing uh March, but they'll probably come
early with them being twins. So probably just for like
(38:05):
in this season of like slowness, that I take advantage
of that and really spend time with the Lord and
really try to like deepen my faith because I feel
like it'd be easy, Like I don't know the last
time I had this much time off, So I definitely
don't want it to be like a, oh, we're falling
off or that ship's going down. It's like, no, I
think we just need a little time with you. Know,
(38:26):
to get ready to be parents and then to be
parents for the first couple of months. So maybe I'll
just take a lot of advantage of the next couple
months coming up, and yeah, I can just be a
good dad.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Well, And I feel like too, like just knowing the
crazy and chaos that ensues, and I feel like the
world just specifically makes childbirth and parenthood look like this
crazy chaotic thing we're ever gonna sleep again and blah
blah blah. It is the most amazing journey. Yeah, I
love being a mom, I love you know, our family,
(38:58):
and I just I think that if I can encourage
you guys in that take advantage of this slowness right
before kids, because it does get chaotic. It's just like
this organized chaos that you won't even know what the
slowness was before. But just take advantage of this slow
season because God will teach you so many things in it.
(39:19):
But also like kind of like what a crazy blessing
from God to give you this insanely slow season where.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You can just be with your wife.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
You know, it's perfect, So excited for you. Yes, all right,
Well I'm going to pray us out. Yeah, and we'll
let you get out of here. Dear heavenly father. Lord,
just thank you for this platform, thank you for speaking
through us today and just glorifying your word. And we
just we pray over this next season with Dylan and
not that you would just allow them to take advantage
(39:48):
of the slowness, that you would use this season to
equip them to just be a unit together as husband
and wife, but also to be a unit as parents. Lord,
and that you would just give them discernment and wiz
them and equip them with all of the knowledge that
they need to get through childbirth and get to just
one of the most amazing blessings that you could ever
(40:08):
bless them with, these these beautiful little babies, Lord.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
And we just say thank you for them.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
We say thank you for the answered prayer, fertility, and
we just we just glorify you in this season and
just say we just ask that you bless Dylan and
Natalie as they go into this next season and you
just give them supernatural wisdom.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Lord. We love you. Amen.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Amen, Amen, thank you for coming again and redoing this
episode that got deleted last time.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
We got it. I know
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