Terron Armstead and Mark Ingram react to the Blockbuster trade between the Miami Dolphins and the Pittsburgh Steelers, TJ Watt’s possibility for a trade rises, and Lamar Jackson still believes the Ravens have a window to win a Super Bowl and much more!
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11:20 - TJ Watt
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. Welcome Tonight Cap take Over Week two.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm toront ormstead t stead taking over, and I'm joined
by my brother, my good brother, the legend, the Heisman
Trophy winning National Championship winning Mark Duce Duce Ingram. I
am joined by my brother Mark Ingram. Later on, Warren
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Dude, dudes, what's happening there? What's handing there? What's handing in?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
My brother.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Got to get my audio on, dudes, Duce along, I
work with y'all, work with me?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now? Is it good? We there we go? Oh, you
can hear me out.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We live. Big Steady in the bill had you know
what's going down?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man Steady, I'm good, bro, blessed man. Order to be
on the Night Cap with my dog, Big stad in
the building in the flesh, the legend himself. Hey man,
that intro was legendary. I ain't going you got to
(01:38):
show show was fine, man. I appreciate you, man, legendary,
and you host to look good man, legendary guy.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's only right, it's only right, it's only right.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, let's get into a dudes, duce, we had
block blockbuster trade today.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'm getting on my flight.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm leaving au National Championship with my girls and man
soon as I sit down.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Blockbuster trade the Miami Dolphins. My Miami Dolphins send.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Jalen Ramsey, John old Smith and the seventh round pick
to Pittsburgh in return for Mica Fitzpatrick and the fifth
round pick.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's your initial react? What you think when you first
saw that?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean, just Miami, just get rid of all the
good players, all right? Hey, I know, I'm like, you
just gonna get rid of everybody. Micka is a dog now,
Micka is him, He's been him since Belma.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Mika is legendary. But then you get.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Two Pro bowlers on return in the seventh I'm like,
the Steelers had to win the trade, right you gotta.
I think I take a different perspective, Mark like, I yeah,
because you've been in the building. You've been in the buildings,
So you tell me the prospective big story. It's gonna
be real insightful tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I've been with the Miami Dolphins for the last three years,
so I'm teammates with Jayalen Ramsey, teammates with John old.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Smith and my perspective on the trade.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think Miami excelled at the highest level that they
could present it because they needed a safety. Just presented
the situation. So we got Jalen rams We got All
world player who was unhappy.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
He's leaving.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's not going to suit up in the Dolphins uniform.
So I didn't know he was unhappy. If he's unhappy,
then so.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He's singing the move right, he's seeking the trade.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's not going to play for you, so you can
hold on to him at a disgruntled situation.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I didn't know this for nothing, or you get a
return All All Pro player who's been arguably but not
argued by many, the best safety in the NFL or
the last four or five years, Johnd. So if you
can trade Ramsey for Minka, it's unbelievable what the Dolphins
was able to do.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Losing John, I didn't know Jalen was unhappy.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
If you have an happy, disgrunnabled player, then that's a win,
you know what I mean. So I didn't see you
got the inside scoop man. He was there at Ota.
Big Steady retired, but not really retired, still got his
foot in the you know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
What I mean, I'm gone, good and gone.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You got all the insights, bro, you got all the
inside scoop. So on the outside looking at and you
had the inside scoop. It's like, damn, they lost two
for one, you know what I mean? Two pro ball
players for one. Obviously all good players are involved in
this trade, you know what I mean. But you know
you talk about the two for one. I didn't know.
He was just grown and unhappy. So that was a
good move for Miami. You never want to have somebody
that doesn't want to be there, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
For sure? For sure?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, and Ramsey's been He's been publicly, he's been publicly
loud about him wanting to departure from Miami. So yeah,
I should probably know these headlines being on thirty minutes
from But.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
No, and it's not.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's not a situation to where like it's toxic or
he can't talk to Chris, he can't talk to Mike.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's not the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I think for him and where he is in his career,
what he sees for his near future, he felt like
he'd be best with elsewhere, So yeah, it'd be like
that sometimes, man, be like that. It's all good. We
all been through it. You played for two teams. I
played for three teams.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know. It be like that sometimes. Business be business.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
In Yeah, you know I feel you for show. I
do so. So, Mika and Jalen. This is the This
is the first time since two thousand and two that
two five two five time Pro bowlers were swapped in
the trade. It is the first time since two thousand
and two. It's pretty crazy, man, who.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Was that trade? Who is that? You know, I don't
got that right now. You just stump me with that question.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I just know it's been it's been twenty three years
since it happened.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's all, okay, it's been twenty three years. So how
do you see Jayalen Ramsey fit? Man with Mike Tomlin
and that Pittsburgh defense.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean, Mike Thomland and the Steelers. I mean they
always got them dudes over there, you know what I mean,
they always got uh you know, the dogs that come
through there.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So, Jalen Ramsey's the ASC North. You know, the AFC
North is a really tough division. So the Steelers are
trying to get stronger, you know what I mean, you know,
they win signed a rod they win't got DK Now
you're going to make a big trade for uh, Jalen Ramsey.
So they're trying to make moves, man, because they know
the AFC North is nothing to play with. If you've
got Lamar Jackson over there, Joe Brow Yeah, Lamar jack Yeah.
(06:20):
Here you feel me era a apparel. You know we
got you got big trust now. I was playing but
uh yeah you got in the flesh, yes, sir. But yeah,
that's a tough division, man. So for the Steelers, they're
trying to get stronger, man. So I think that's a
good move for them. And Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know he he's one of the most.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, consistent coaches there's been over the last decade plus.
So I know he's trying to get his team right.
He knows what it takes to win for show.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Very very uncharacteristic year for them, though this offseason has
been it's not Steelers like not traditionally for them to
make splash free agents Aaron Rodgers DK MA Like you
just mentioned trading for Jalen Ramsey, trading away Mina Fish Patrick, Like,
what is the reason for that? Why you think that
it's it's like they're going outside of the tell you.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That ANC North is a mother. Watch your mouth. The
ANC North is a mother. Watch your mouth.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's a tough conference, man, that's a tough division to win. Man,
And you're talking about Lamar Jackson, talking about Joe Burrow,
talking about the Browns. Everyone's trying to make moves and
get a team that could win. I played in the
ANC North. It's a tough division, man. It's a very
competitive division. It's a prideful division. And so trying to
get deep that hate as a Raven Ravens Steelers. That
(07:33):
Ravens Steelers is nasty dog. We played Falcons and Station
that's nasty too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So yeah, yeah, the Raven Stealers. Man, it's deep.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Bro. Pauls and uh and uh. It's just a it's
one of them.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Ones, man.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You talk about great rivalies, it's definitely up there. I'm
an Iron Bowl guy, Alabama Auburn. It is one of
them ones to put you under pressure right now, Mark
your fan bases might they might have some words for
you after this. Which is a stronger, more genuine rival rivalry.
The Saints versus Falcons or the Stealers versus Ravens.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Come on, why not? Why not? I just seen you
under pressure, my good brothers.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
It ain't pressure, respect, it ain't pressure because I respect
both of the rivalies to the utmost. It's deep pause,
answer deep pause, and it's history and bad blood of
these games, but also minimal respect, but respect.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know you got to answer the question. You gotta.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No. I need I need this right now. I need
to know Saints foul. I think the Saints. I think
the Saints and the Falcons. Bro. Must get to squabbling
there for behind that, mus get the squabbling behind that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
They do too, brother Ravens and stealers due too. They
get to squabbling behind that too.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Bro. I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I can't answer that question. I get it, I get it.
It's a hot seat. It's no, it's like, it's not
a hot seat.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But answer for that, it's not. That's two of the most.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Stories, Part two, ste story with great tradition has history
like they're super Bowls and playoff victories behind both of them.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, the Saints got the only one in the Falcony
Saints rivalry. But there's a couple in both of the
Ravens and you know what I mean, the Stealers. So
it's some big mag magnificent wins and history behind the
stories and plays and in dirty plays behind both of them.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's city rivalries behind both of them.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But uh yeah, man, it's ah, I don't like the
Steelers and I don't like the foul Cantes.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So right, yeah, I don't like now. I don't like
naw one, not a now not. I don't like naw
not one of them.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
All right, before we move past the Stellers, last question,
I'm asking you about them. In recent weeks, it's been
multiple rumors and discussions talking about whether the Stealers would
trade away TJ.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You hear that, and it's I don't think it's much
life to it at all.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But with this contract situation and it's taking so long
for him to get a new contract, do what do
you think comes out of this situation?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Do you think TJ.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Watt is a Pittsburgh Stealer when the season start or
it's another blockbuster splash move by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean, still as you're making moves to try and
like put yourself in a position to win the division,
and if you do that to TJ. Watt, like you're
not helping yourself accomplish the main goal.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So I think that he is a stealer when it starts,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But like you say, when there's money and contract issues,
as long as it's clean, there's and there's communication and
there's transparency with what's happening, there's no reason why he's not.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now if there's some.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Behind the scenes that we don't know, where's bad blood
or it's not like transparency going on to your franchise player,
then I see him being a stealer for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That started to see I got you. What about you? Man?
You asked me what you know? You you closer to
move than I am. I'll expand. So t J.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Watt is an incredible Hall of Fame first ballot talent
and production to thus far in his career, he's been undeniable.
And the thing that I appreciate the most about TJ.
Although I never blocked him personally because he rushes the
right tackle, the thing that I appreciate about TJ is
not only his consistency, but he creates turnovers.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So it's not the same. He don't he don't care
about the sack. He wants the sack fumble like he were.
Really we want the game change and play and I
really appreciate. But how do you feel about a d
N that ain't gonna come over there and see what
you about?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Though he only rushed the writing I.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Don't move, you feel me? So if you want to,
you want to come venture over to t Stage Island.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
How do you feel?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
No, I know you don't move to the left the
corner stole of the whole line. So I'm gonna put
you on the high seat. How you feel one of
them all? Don't rush the left tackle? Hey and he
scare kind of you feel like that? Listen this roll?
This road closed, bro So it really don't matter who
the driver. It don't matter who trying to get it,
don't matter. This road closed. And I didn't got got
(12:11):
a few times? You feel men.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Get I get mine more than I get got The
question ain't no question.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So I didn't got cooked the future I get bro
I used to see no lie. I used to get
cooked twice a year. Bad it's all take. I used
to get cooked two times a year, Brooch bro, it
had changed. It has changed every year to be like
it's never the same person. Two games a year, two
(12:41):
times a year, air frar it is bad ro tissery
slow cooking bro, no lie. Two times a year it
would be all game where it would just be like
one game, change to play like no one like clean
sack like and one mixtape And I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, but how many drop back in the season
show for shore for sure?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Look, I look, I did. I did this thing at
a high level for a long time, you know what
I mean? As if I can't say somebody as a
rookie boy came in. Greg Hardy was out that thing. Yeah,
I got them to in one game them two times
was one game he cooked, he cook. Yeah but you hey,
but boys nasty you was battling though.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I was like, oh, I was like, hey, he gonna
be one of them ones. And he was for a
long time forever.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Name somebody right quick, Name somebody that that got the
best of you and maybe met you in a hole
or you couldn't get olden.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Name somebody that just you ain't never really get.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Cam Chancellor came downhill and yeah we and we we
just he we still made it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But I got up, like, hey, I better not calling
no rough play right now. Hey, at least get give
a brother a free release or something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Boy came down. Here was a duo press thirty three duo.
We was out there.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
She had caw it's bounced outside, came inside, pause, cut
hip side, cut up the field.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You know what I mean? But uh we both met.
It was like, damn Chancellor. But but I got that bro.
He was different.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Drew Drew, Drew up, Drew a hurry up, Drew a
hurry up. I'm like, well you better throw this man.
Don't get his by no forty nickel right now, the
nickel forty right now.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Camp. He said that he was different, bro, different physical
one of the man.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Just to enforce her man he was back. One of
the old safeties that like you just had to know
where he was. Was he close to the line of skirts?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Was he deep? Because it made a difference to show
Paul fact, damn so super bro good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
All right, I'm gonna say AFC north right quick. So
Lamar Jackson. He's he's very confident. He's been almost boisterous
about him and his belief for the Ravens winning the
championship right now. Their window is right now.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
During the appearance with Kevin Hart on Cold as Balls,
he reiterated his desire for a championship.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We're extremely close, he says.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
As I've been getting older in the league, my mindset
is different and the game has gotten a lot easier
for me. Not only is it, is this the time
that Lamar Jackson finally get his ring?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And does he does he has to? Does he have
to do it this year? Does Lamar Jackson have to
win a ring this year to stamp himself, to solidify himself.
I don't think he has to win it this year.
Like now everyone's going to hold over his head. But
I don't think he has to win it this year.
He's gonna be playing for a long time, so he's
(15:47):
one of I think he's the goat man. I think
he's the best player in the NFL. Like he just
keeps getting better.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I feel a man, I.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Do and and it's a team game, man. And when
it gets to the player is some turnovers here, it's
the wrong mistake there, and it cast you the game, bro,
Like it cost you the game. You're going home, Like
it's no best of five, best of seven playoff.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, this is eliminating.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's why we played the hardest game in sports, bro,
because of that single elimination, like single game elimination. And
that's why it's if you it's that day, it's that day.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And sometimes in the NFL in the playoffs, that day. Bro.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, it's just it's a tough man, it's tough game.
You ain't got the health. You have some characteristic penalties.
The ball do on bosh away a couple of times,
like you go home. You don't get a game to
game three, game four, game five. So it's it's a
team game. And yes, Lamar has a lot to do
with how the team goes.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
He is with that team. They go behind Lamar, they
go as Lamar goes.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But I feel he's like the best player in the league, man,
And I don't feel like he.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Has to win it this year.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Do I suret of he wins it, the better because
it'll keep getting these haters off his back here. Yeah,
but he doesn't have to win it this year. Man,
He's golded, eas stamped.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Man. He should have been three time MVP. Josh Allen
deserved the last one.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But I'm like Lamar just had a year that nobody,
no quarterback has had in the NFL history, you know,
throwing for four thousand, rushing for whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think he went over a thousand.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like so he's still doing stuff that's never been done.
He so he's the greatest. He just needs to get
that championship.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Do you think they start to give him that that
Lebron treatment when it comes to postseason accolades? Like Lebron
was putting up twenty eight, nine to nine every year,
but somebody else will win MVP, somebody else will win.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The next year.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Look, Lebron eventually got his and three four of them, right,
I mean, you can arguably say Lebron can have twelve though,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
We're being honest. So do you think Lamar I have
some of them teams that he had was mediocre.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Some of the early teams he had was mediocre, that
was mid like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So so so yeah, so I feel like Lamark running
to Lebron. I'm talking about Lebron, about Lebron, you know
what I mean. But even you know, now they got
more pieces around Lamar.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So I feel like he could run into That's the
whole part of the the recognition. Yes, man, it's a
ring culture. Yeah, you know, because ring he had not
taking away anything Josh Allen did.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
He was incredible, was MVP.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But Lamar Jackson had forty one touchdowns, four interceptions the Sea.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
The season was just unheard of, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's the m v P. That's an MVP year. So
he should have been three time MVP. Let's be honest,
But shout out to Josh Allen for what he did.
I respect Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
He's a ball. The Bills are great.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But Lamarsha that had the MVP for the third time
last year back to.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Back, by the way, is not great. Let's not just
a brush out whatever, man, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Hey, so so yeah, you played Dolphins, Bills, Dolphins Patriots,
Saints Falcons.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm taking it back.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Who do you guys knows what's the what's the most
nastiest ri I'm taking it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I say Saints Falcons. For me, especially being in New
Orleans for so long, I had more experience with that rivalry.
And as you just said, it was Dolphins, Bills, Dolphins Patriots,
so it's like they had two rivalies that got a
lot of history, a lot of bad blood, but the
Saints got this.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
One long hop. Yeah, yeah, dirty bird it is. It's
an odd c to day.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And I when I super when I came into League
twenty thirteen, like I didn't know that was the thing, honestly,
Like I'm from southern Illinois, didn't I wasn't in the South,
So I didn't know that Saints Falcons robbery.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Was was what it was like that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It was like that soon adopt like I hate them folks, Broym. Yeah,
I just like that, yes at all. I don't like them,
hate them folks. And it's not for nothing else. But
I was I was the saying like I don't like
y'all straight up what y'all did wrong? But serious up
played Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
If you played there? What ten years? Nine years? I
was there for nine years?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, so I was there shoot basically ten like it's Ingraindans,
it's ingrad thing you At that point, I just had
to ask.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I had to run that back. Got it? You got it?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I ask you about Yeah, l J should have been
three time AVP show. Let me actually bout another quarterback
dual threat. Budda Baker says Kylin Murray is the NFL's
most underrated quarterback.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
He told men the comes. We haven't had a lot
of national games. People kind of see him as a
shirt guy. But this guy can make all the throws
inside the pocket, outside the pocket.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
He's quick. You see it on tape.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's out running everybody all the time. Even like the
forty nine Ers game where in Sant fran he points
out to the touchdown forty fifty yards away knowing he
was going to score.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I haven't seen a quarterback do that. It's definitely exciting.
It's cool to just lay under the weeds and have
him at have him be the most underrated guy, and
just kind of show who he is this year and.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Throughout the season. It's color the most underrated quarterback in
the league. I'm not opposed to that. Uh that comment.
I think Kyler Murray is is very skilled. Like in
his game, especially in today's NFL. Man, it's it's it's
he's he's electric with the ball in his hands. He's uh,
(21:13):
he can throw the ball. He runs that r P
O and all. He runs the whole offense. Man, he's
a he's a good he's a good player.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And uh, when he's playing well man, that team, you know,
it's you got to have a Q man, you gotta
have a C.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I feel like Kyler.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Murray is a is one of those guys that can
make a difference.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And uh yeah he whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I don't care he's short, whatever they say, Like he's
a baller dog, you know what I mean. So he
makes plays, he does off schedule plays, He runs the ball,
he throws the ball. They got him some weapons, so
you know, I think Kyler Murray is is.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I like Kyler Murray man. I'm a fan of Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And I'm real particular when we're when we're discussing players
and we call somebody good, really good, great, and you
know what I mean, we start, you can't say great,
you can't say particular with that, and you referred to
color as good right now, which I think he's a
good quarterback, I really do.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I think he can do everything. I'm very respectful of players, too, Michelle.
I'm a player. In fact, I'm a player, man. I'm
very respectful of players, especially you know, you see him
working and overcome adversity. He's had some tough injuries.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Hard to do.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Playing, Yeah, it's hard to do and you out there
with the Rams and the Niners in that NFC with
that West whatever, Yeah West, that's like the Rams Niners
like shoot man a Z wasn't worth nothing with no
quarterback for a while, like what was Kurt Warner was
the last one to take him?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Like, I don't know, bro, how can how can or
can Colin go from good to really good or good
to great this year?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Like? How can he do that? What do you need
to do? Win?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's what have come down to come down to.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You gotta win.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The quarterbacks that like, they just don't give you the
love or appreciation you deserve unless you win.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You can put up the numbers. You have to win,
and so you have to win out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
There in the division that has you know, the the
Niners who aren't what they were two years ago, you know,
and then you got the Rams who are making moves.
You got the Seahawks. You know, they're they're used to being,
you know, contended for the division.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
So you gotta win, Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's just that's the bottom line as a quarterback, especially
one where they're saying you're underrated or you don't get
to love you deserve, you gotta win. I think that's
what he could do. He gotta win, that's what That's
what it comes down to. Every time it does. And
I've seen I've seen Colinmary. I'm a fan of his game.
I've seen his improvement over the years. I do want
to see a bigger jump, though. I do want to
see a year seven now. Damn is it you're seven
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to eight something like that. He's definitely veteran. Now, man,
let's see right now, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Let's see be.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Bro Arizona in in Miami this year and it was
to a first game back and we was super excited. Offensively,
we played solid, We score more points than we had
did the previous several weeks. But Calin Murray beat us
like fourth quarter, last two persented.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Colin Murray beat us. He's in the seventh season. Damn.
I ain't no coluim in the leg that long.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Telling you though, So he has to take the step
federal quarterback. You got a second deal. You got Marvel
Harrison Junior and other Budda Baker, you got, you got players,
you know what I mean. But it's a team game too.
It's a team game.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Gotta stay healthy, gotta win games. Like I think that's
been a prole McCarley.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He's had some injuries, man, Uh, you know, and hasn't
won enough games.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Quite frankly, No, that's a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I think this year you asked me, I'm a Kyler
Murray fans, You asked me what he has to take
the next step.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But I want to know talking to you as.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
As one of these people out here who are saying
Kyler Murray has one enough games and that's why he's underrated,
like budh Beca says, or he doesn't get the respect
he deserves.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
We both talked about these fan bases that we hate.
I hate the Falcons fans. I hate the Buffalo Bills fans.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You hate to Stealers fans, Falcons fans, Jared Verus. Recently
there's other fans too, I'm sure, but I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Uh, the Rams out standing rookie they had last year,
Jared Verse.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You showed him some love. You said he was one
of them ones. He different, Bro, he different.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I have no problem saying that the boys, He's gonna
be a problem for many years. He can stay healthy, bro. Yeah,
he wanted them one different. Yeah, I can I can
spot it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I can spot them, feel me when somebody that's different,
and I'm gonna show love Tom you for real real
ones to Bro, he can't you can't hate to play
I hate you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
He can't hate the play.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I hate that game.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So but he said that how much he hates Eagles
fans what he called him the best opposing fan base
to go against.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Who's a who's a fan base that.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You hate, but you also love to go to that
stadium like that really is just a great place to
play and gets you going.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You you're ready to run all over. I love playing
in away games, dog.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I love when they loud, and I love when I
break a run and weren't we're one of they butt
over and I'm flexing and they just do quiet, you
know what I mean? Like yeah, no, we're still here
and you do it for both folk quarter ain't nothing
like them away games, bro, But uh, I mean, Machansas
City is a place where it's tough to play.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Man in my time Seattle.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I hate Minnesota, like obviously it's that that runs real
bad blood. I hate Minnesota, but it's a good place
with in Philly. They nasty in Philly, Man, they they
nasty in Philly, but it's a good place to shut
them up too, and we did that too in Philly.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Before you feel me, so yeah man, and then yeah,
those are some Those are some teams that come to
the front of my mom. He is Buffalo. I hate the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Buffalo AFL Buffalo. We shut them up big up there,
but they got me one time up there too when
I played for Houston. But I went for about a
buck something and three tuddies up there in Buffalo jumping
in they stands. Yeah, yeah, beer for sure. I got photos,
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beer for show, got photo fire photo too.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, Buffalo, I hate them like I hate the fans.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
The team they're good too, so that made not always
make it worse like the team is actually really good,
so it's hard to be so. In my time in Miami,
I didn't I didn't beat Buffalo, and Buffalo didn't get
one of those lost to them in the playoffs, close game.
But that environment they got up there is real football,
like list they got the little I.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Played up there. Yeah with the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I played up there with the Ravens, got away with
a closed up bro that Buffalo is.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's a legit place to play ball too. Man. They
go crazy up there, for sure. I respect Buffalo man.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Before I get you up out of here, Duce, Duce
just got one or two more for you. So you
know how you just said you respect players.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I respect players. I'm never gonna be one.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Of them guys just taking shots at players. If we're
gonna talk football, let's talk football. But recently saying Terrell
Owens called Deebo Samuel's fat, he said he two chicken
nuggets away from tipping the scale.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
What's your respond I feel about that?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
What you think about the old heads when they come
back and talk about the players.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, man, I'll tell you man, I just I'm not
one of them ones that.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Just do that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
But I mean too t o Field Man, It's always
been outspoken, man. I mean, I'm just not wanting to,
you know, take shots to somebody with Oh, I ain't
got no reason to.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I'm just more chill, bro. I'm just more chill man.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And I'm not out here to try to get clicks
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I respect people, and I show people love, and I
hope people do the same return. I call it how
it is and what I see. But I'm not out
here just to attack people.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You're speaking on the game. You're speaking on the game.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You're not talking about people physically or I mean yeah,
I mean he Debo is stout he'd be running folks
over man.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
But yeah, shoot yeah, but whatever. Yeah that's different, Bro,
that's different what you feel about it. Yeah, but you
feel I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like it, bro, I'll be against them, you know when
the retired player, even the legends, like, well, we're talking
about a player, but let's let's focus on the game.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Let's focus on the technique. Whatever. Don't just be throwing
shots at a player for no reason. Bro, Yeah, we
just be chilling. I ain't with all.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
He was getting a lot of that, a lot of
shots being thrown at him. He told him, Folks, hey,
we get screed, we get scrappy from Hawaii. From Hawaii, man,
people think it's be talking at the side of their
neck career and like, yeah, like you really can't get
beat up in real life. Say we get scrappedy our
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talking crazy?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah? People thinking that ships sweet? It's really sours really
on everything. Man on me. If people get folks to
get beat up in real life, we ain't got to
take it. There. We ain't gotta take it there.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Last one I got for you, dudes, we talked about
it's a quarterback league.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You got the young boy down in New Orleans Draft
the second round, Tyler Shock.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Are you confident him in him taking a starting job
or you or you think Sprince Spencer Radler will be
able to hold him off, or how you feel that
he'll be able to do in his rookie campaign If
Tyler was able to take the starting starting job week one.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I don't know, stad. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You study college game on college game day every week,
big noon, big game Day, my fault, my fault, big no, everywhere,
locked in.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You study not But that's like the competitor though, and
what we do that's on me. Scratch that. Let's take
that out. I know you're good. You good.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Good people make people, people make people make the mistakes, so.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But college players closer. That's why, that's why, that's why. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I really don't know too much about Tyler and Louisville.
I know that he has uh, he's tall, and that
the nice quarterback frame, got a big arm uh, supposedly
very cerebral with the game, and so obviously if you,
and he's played a while. I think he's a little
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bit older for the quarterbacks. You've seen a lot of
the older quarterbacks come in and kind of be successful
because they've had had reps, they've had experience. So you know,
a room for the kid man. I hear he has
intengibles from inside the building. I hear good things from him, obviously.
I hear good things about spender Rally too. I feel
like he didn't get a special Raller didn't really get
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a great shot last year because when he was getting
the snaps, it was against the offensive lines who was injured.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Most of his receivers were injured. Shoot, even the album
was injured a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So I never thought he really got a fair shade
as far as the look that he got last year
when he was taking the snaps as a number one guy.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
But obviously, I know those two guys are competing.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Uh you know in this training camp, and uh shoot,
we'll see what they do.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Man. You know, because Spencer was a rookie last.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Year, So you got Spencer, you got Tiler, who's the
rookie now spent the second round pick on It's gonna
be an interesting decision.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
To see who wins that quarterback job.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know, and uh so we'll see man who that
baby who.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
That for life. Yes, it's interesting to see Tyler.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I know that they have been loud about how talented
he is, how much he's come in and you know,
trying to take command of the offense, commanding the huddles,
trying to dictate things as the line.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
That's that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm with you, especial Raller didn't get a fair chance,
didn't get to get to see what he actually has
to bring to the table. So it'd be interesting down
there and trying to camp with the Saints.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Man, you know, he got to compete. Man, gotta win
the job.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Man's growing in watching this you kind of know what
quarterback has, what quarterback doesn't, and decisions you make.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
So we've been you know, we've been fortunate enough to
not have to, you know, see quarterback battles like for
real reason for you know, Drew Breezy, you know, he
was with Tua like I was with l Jack.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
You know, lamar freaky, you hear me, so freaky.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
But you know what it's supposed to look like, man,
you know, and I'm sure they're gonna pick the right guy.
And boys ain't doing that training camp in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It say it's too hot. They're going out to Cali,
going to California. But hey, smart decision.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Too hotest place in the world, New Orleans. The end
of July, that August, that September. Boy, that ain't be
ugly training camp. They got the nerve to say heat advisory,
fans be hydrated, to be careful.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
It'll tell us no heat avis. It'll be like, all
right out there, live goal linon, let's get it. Fans
out there passing out trying to see nine O seven
bro selling beers. I'm like, oh they really going.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Nine am they out there selling Bruis.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Beers? Dog? They out there? Turn nation?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Who that nation is like that? That nation is like that?
Man for sure, y'all.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Some crazy people love them. Dudes.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Dudes, I'm gonna let you get up out of here,
my good brother. We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Jumping on nightcap in the absence of Uncle Sha and
Big Dog Jo Sinko.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Man, what honor man?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know be able to you know, just get on here,
vibe you know, on the Uncle Shay on the nightcap.
O Choe everyone behind you know this this production. Man,
it's an honors of privilege to be on here tonight
vibing with my brother from another man. I'm just thankful, appreciative,
always honored to be able to spend time with good people.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So anytime I'm just already and thankful. So anybody that
tune in, man, we appreciate y'all. Spread love, spread positivity,
and let's keep you pushing. You said you love you,
brother Bell, love you too, family, My close brother right there,
mark Ingram signing off Nightcap here take over week two.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
He staid filling in hosting on Nightcap, feeling in for Shinnon,
shark O, Jo Sinko. I showed Joe, I show Joe
Johnson had it fortunate injury playing I believe in Big
Three recently, which is why he's absent for the night.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
So thoughts some prayers with I so Joe that.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
There's nothing serious, that the legend is able to recover
real soon.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
We'll keep talking some football though. Man, it's a lot
of a lot of news going on. It's usually a
really quiet time throughout the offseason when we see here.
Not much going on in ABA finals, just just finish
shout out to OKAC and this window is just baseball
on hockey's over. WNBA is still going. I'm definitely locked
(36:39):
into the w NBA. They are ballin, ballin.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I went to New York Liberty game recently. I went
to a New York Liberty game.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Last week before Fanatics Fest, and I will honestly say
I've been in the NFL for twelve years, I can
honestly say that is a top three game experience out
of all sports, all games. New York Liberty home game,
it's a top three game experience.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
A lot of you not it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
It was insane, insane, A lot of you not definitely
pushing that, pushing the WNBA. But back to the NFL.
It's this trade that happened today has really awakened US
sports fans, awaken US football fans as we anticipate to
start a training camp. I've had the privilege of being
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in Miami for the last three years, so I was
getting on the plane when I heard the news, and
I got the news that they traded Jalen Ramsey and
John Ousmith to the Steelers and in return for Mika
Fitzpatrick and the fifth round pick.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And crazy enough. I get a call from Chris Greer.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
So Chris Greer is the the GM of the of
the Miami Dolphins. And I on the phone with Chris,
and he's talking about kind of everything else, Like he's
acting about how how much twin daughters do when the
basketball tournament, he's acting about, uh, the next time. I'm
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back in the neighborhood, just you know, And I'm like, Chris, yeah,
three hours ago, you just made this blockbuster trade.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Like we've been on the phone four minutes. You haven't
come on, Let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So I'm talking to I'm talking to Chris, and I'm
asking me how you feel about how you feel about
the trade.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And Chris Greer, he's he spoke on the situation at hand.
So you got your all world corner. Who's who's upset
and he wants to be elsewhere. And we've seen historically
through this situation. The other thirty one teams know your situation.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
They know you're like in a back, back against the
wall type situation because this player doesn't want to play
for you, So you don't want to hold somebody in
the building that's going to bring bad energy or negative
vibe or g know somebody that don't want to play
for you. So other teams know, all right, I don't
have to give up X, Y and Z to get
this guy because he wants to leave anyway, So they
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have to make a move. So teams usually they wait
that out, they wait that situation out. So for Chris
to be able to pair Jayalen Ramsey that you're gonna
lose and all world talent that you're gonna lose for
almost nothing, He's able to pair Jayalen Ramsey with the
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phenomenal Johnald Smith, who just had a career year first
time Pro Bowl, was the most consistent, was the offensive
MVP of the season for the Miami Dolphins, if we're
being completely honest.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
No question, he was the MVP.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You pair him and Jayalen Ramsey, who's gonna lose anyway
together and you bring back in the whole world safety
and a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I think, h in.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Worst case scenarios or best case scenario, that's plus.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
That's that's that's the that's a win. That's a win.
But I said, the stillness game, buck.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
The volume
Speaker 3 (40:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Dude, dudes, what's happening there? What's handing there? What's handing in?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
My brother.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Got to get my audio on, dudes, Duce along, I
work with y'all, work with me?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now? Is it good? We there we go? Oh, you
can hear me out.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We live. Big Steady in the bill had you know
what's going down?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man Steady, I'm good, bro, blessed man. Order to be
on the Night Cap with my dog, Big stad in
the building in the flesh, the legend himself. Hey man,
that intro was legendary. I ain't going you got to
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show show was fine, man. I appreciate you, man, legendary,
and you host to look good man, legendary guy.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's only right, it's only right, it's only right.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, let's get into a dudes, duce, we had
block blockbuster trade today.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'm getting on my flight.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm leaving au National Championship with my girls and man
soon as I sit down.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Blockbuster trade the Miami Dolphins. My Miami Dolphins send.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Jalen Ramsey, John old Smith and the seventh round pick
to Pittsburgh in return for Mica Fitzpatrick and the fifth
round pick.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's your initial react? What you think when you first
saw that?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean, just Miami, just get rid of all the
good players, all right? Hey, I know, I'm like, you
just gonna get rid of everybody. Micka is a dog now,
Micka is him, He's been him since Belma.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Mika is legendary. But then you get.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Two Pro bowlers on return in the seventh I'm like,
the Steelers had to win the trade, right you gotta.
I think I take a different perspective, Mark like, I yeah,
because you've been in the building. You've been in the buildings,
So you tell me the prospective big story. It's gonna
be real insightful tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I've been with the Miami Dolphins for the last three years,
so I'm teammates with Jayalen Ramsey, teammates with John old.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Smith and my perspective on the trade.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think Miami excelled at the highest level that they
could present it because they needed a safety. Just presented
the situation. So we got Jalen rams We got All
world player who was unhappy.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
He's leaving.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's not going to suit up in the Dolphins uniform.
So I didn't know he was unhappy. If he's unhappy,
then so.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He's singing the move right, he's seeking the trade.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's not going to play for you, so you can
hold on to him at a disgruntled situation.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I didn't know this for nothing, or you get a
return All All Pro player who's been arguably but not
argued by many, the best safety in the NFL or
the last four or five years, Johnd. So if you
can trade Ramsey for Minka, it's unbelievable what the Dolphins
was able to do.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Losing John, I didn't know Jalen was unhappy.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
If you have an happy, disgrunnabled player, then that's a win,
you know what I mean. So I didn't see you
got the inside scoop man. He was there at Ota.
Big Steady retired, but not really retired, still got his
foot in the you know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
What I mean, I'm gone, good and gone.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You got all the insights, bro, you got all the
inside scoop. So on the outside looking at and you
had the inside scoop. It's like, damn, they lost two
for one, you know what I mean? Two pro ball
players for one. Obviously all good players are involved in
this trade, you know what I mean. But you know
you talk about the two for one. I didn't know.
He was just grown and unhappy. So that was a
good move for Miami. You never want to have somebody
that doesn't want to be there, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
For sure? For sure?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, and Ramsey's been He's been publicly, he's been publicly
loud about him wanting to departure from Miami. So yeah,
I should probably know these headlines being on thirty minutes
from But.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
No, and it's not.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's not a situation to where like it's toxic or
he can't talk to Chris, he can't talk to Mike.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's not the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I think for him and where he is in his career,
what he sees for his near future, he felt like
he'd be best with elsewhere, So yeah, it'd be like
that sometimes, man, be like that. It's all good. We
all been through it. You played for two teams. I
played for three teams.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know. It be like that sometimes. Business be business.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
In Yeah, you know I feel you for show. I
do so. So, Mika and Jalen. This is the This
is the first time since two thousand and two that
two five two five time Pro bowlers were swapped in
the trade. It is the first time since two thousand
and two. It's pretty crazy, man, who.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Was that trade? Who is that? You know, I don't
got that right now. You just stump me with that question.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I just know it's been it's been twenty three years
since it happened.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's all, okay, it's been twenty three years. So how
do you see Jayalen Ramsey fit? Man with Mike Tomlin
and that Pittsburgh defense.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean, Mike Thomland and the Steelers. I mean they
always got them dudes over there, you know what I mean,
they always got uh you know, the dogs that come
through there.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So, Jalen Ramsey's the ASC North. You know, the AFC
North is a really tough division. So the Steelers are
trying to get stronger, you know what I mean, you know,
they win signed a rod they win't got DK Now
you're going to make a big trade for uh, Jalen Ramsey.
So they're trying to make moves, man, because they know
the AFC North is nothing to play with. If you've
got Lamar Jackson over there, Joe Brow Yeah, Lamar jack Yeah.
(06:20):
Here you feel me era a apparel. You know we
got you got big trust now. I was playing but
uh yeah you got in the flesh, yes, sir. But yeah,
that's a tough division, man. So for the Steelers, they're
trying to get stronger, man. So I think that's a
good move for them. And Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know he he's one of the most.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, consistent coaches there's been over the last decade plus.
So I know he's trying to get his team right.
He knows what it takes to win for show.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Very very uncharacteristic year for them, though this offseason has
been it's not Steelers like not traditionally for them to
make splash free agents Aaron Rodgers DK MA Like you
just mentioned trading for Jalen Ramsey, trading away Mina Fish Patrick, Like,
what is the reason for that? Why you think that
it's it's like they're going outside of the tell you.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That ANC North is a mother. Watch your mouth. The
ANC North is a mother. Watch your mouth.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's a tough conference, man, that's a tough division to win. Man,
And you're talking about Lamar Jackson, talking about Joe Burrow,
talking about the Browns. Everyone's trying to make moves and
get a team that could win. I played in the
ANC North. It's a tough division, man. It's a very
competitive division. It's a prideful division. And so trying to
get deep that hate as a Raven Ravens Steelers. That
(07:33):
Ravens Steelers is nasty dog. We played Falcons and Station
that's nasty too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So yeah, yeah, the Raven Stealers. Man, it's deep.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Bro. Pauls and uh and uh. It's just a it's
one of them.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Ones, man.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You talk about great rivalies, it's definitely up there. I'm
an Iron Bowl guy, Alabama Auburn. It is one of
them ones to put you under pressure right now, Mark
your fan bases might they might have some words for
you after this. Which is a stronger, more genuine rival rivalry.
The Saints versus Falcons or the Stealers versus Ravens.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Come on, why not? Why not? I just seen you
under pressure, my good brothers.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
It ain't pressure, respect, it ain't pressure because I respect
both of the rivalies to the utmost. It's deep pause,
answer deep pause, and it's history and bad blood of
these games, but also minimal respect, but respect.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know you got to answer the question. You gotta.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No. I need I need this right now. I need
to know Saints foul. I think the Saints. I think
the Saints and the Falcons. Bro. Must get to squabbling
there for behind that, mus get the squabbling behind that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
They do too, brother Ravens and stealers due too. They
get to squabbling behind that too.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Bro. I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I can't answer that question. I get it, I get it.
It's a hot seat. It's no, it's like, it's not
a hot seat.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But answer for that, it's not. That's two of the most.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Stories, Part two, ste story with great tradition has history
like they're super Bowls and playoff victories behind both of them.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, the Saints got the only one in the Falcony
Saints rivalry. But there's a couple in both of the
Ravens and you know what I mean, the Stealers. So
it's some big mag magnificent wins and history behind the
stories and plays and in dirty plays behind both of them.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's city rivalries behind both of them.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But uh yeah, man, it's ah, I don't like the
Steelers and I don't like the foul Cantes.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So right, yeah, I don't like now. I don't like
naw one, not a now not. I don't like naw
not one of them.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
All right, before we move past the Stellers, last question,
I'm asking you about them. In recent weeks, it's been
multiple rumors and discussions talking about whether the Stealers would
trade away TJ.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You hear that, and it's I don't think it's much
life to it at all.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But with this contract situation and it's taking so long
for him to get a new contract, do what do
you think comes out of this situation?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Do you think TJ.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Watt is a Pittsburgh Stealer when the season start or
it's another blockbuster splash move by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean, still as you're making moves to try and
like put yourself in a position to win the division,
and if you do that to TJ. Watt, like you're
not helping yourself accomplish the main goal.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So I think that he is a stealer when it starts,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But like you say, when there's money and contract issues,
as long as it's clean, there's and there's communication and
there's transparency with what's happening, there's no reason why he's not.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now if there's some.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Behind the scenes that we don't know, where's bad blood
or it's not like transparency going on to your franchise player,
then I see him being a stealer for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That started to see I got you. What about you? Man?
You asked me what you know? You you closer to
move than I am. I'll expand. So t J.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Watt is an incredible Hall of Fame first ballot talent
and production to thus far in his career, he's been undeniable.
And the thing that I appreciate the most about TJ.
Although I never blocked him personally because he rushes the
right tackle, the thing that I appreciate about TJ is
not only his consistency, but he creates turnovers.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So it's not the same. He don't he don't care
about the sack. He wants the sack fumble like he were.
Really we want the game change and play and I
really appreciate. But how do you feel about a d
N that ain't gonna come over there and see what
you about?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Though he only rushed the writing I.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Don't move, you feel me? So if you want to,
you want to come venture over to t Stage Island.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
How do you feel?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
No, I know you don't move to the left the
corner stole of the whole line. So I'm gonna put
you on the high seat. How you feel one of
them all? Don't rush the left tackle? Hey and he
scare kind of you feel like that? Listen this roll?
This road closed, bro So it really don't matter who
the driver. It don't matter who trying to get it,
don't matter. This road closed. And I didn't got got
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a few times? You feel men.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Get I get mine more than I get got The
question ain't no question.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So I didn't got cooked the future I get bro
I used to see no lie. I used to get
cooked twice a year. Bad it's all take. I used
to get cooked two times a year, Brooch bro, it
had changed. It has changed every year to be like
it's never the same person. Two games a year, two
(12:41):
times a year, air frar it is bad ro tissery
slow cooking bro, no lie. Two times a year it
would be all game where it would just be like
one game, change to play like no one like clean
sack like and one mixtape And I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, but how many drop back in the season
show for shore for sure?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Look, I look, I did. I did this thing at
a high level for a long time, you know what
I mean? As if I can't say somebody as a
rookie boy came in. Greg Hardy was out that thing. Yeah,
I got them to in one game them two times
was one game he cooked, he cook. Yeah but you hey,
but boys nasty you was battling though.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I was like, oh, I was like, hey, he gonna
be one of them ones. And he was for a
long time forever.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Name somebody right quick, Name somebody that that got the
best of you and maybe met you in a hole
or you couldn't get olden.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Name somebody that just you ain't never really get.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Cam Chancellor came downhill and yeah we and we we
just he we still made it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But I got up, like, hey, I better not calling
no rough play right now. Hey, at least get give
a brother a free release or something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Boy came down. Here was a duo press thirty three duo.
We was out there.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
She had caw it's bounced outside, came inside, pause, cut
hip side, cut up the field.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You know what I mean? But uh we both met.
It was like, damn Chancellor. But but I got that bro.
He was different.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Drew Drew, Drew up, Drew a hurry up, Drew a
hurry up. I'm like, well you better throw this man.
Don't get his by no forty nickel right now, the
nickel forty right now.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Camp. He said that he was different, bro, different physical
one of the man.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Just to enforce her man he was back. One of
the old safeties that like you just had to know
where he was. Was he close to the line of skirts?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Was he deep? Because it made a difference to show
Paul fact, damn so super bro good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
All right, I'm gonna say AFC north right quick. So
Lamar Jackson. He's he's very confident. He's been almost boisterous
about him and his belief for the Ravens winning the
championship right now. Their window is right now.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
During the appearance with Kevin Hart on Cold as Balls,
he reiterated his desire for a championship.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We're extremely close, he says.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
As I've been getting older in the league, my mindset
is different and the game has gotten a lot easier
for me. Not only is it, is this the time
that Lamar Jackson finally get his ring?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And does he does he has to? Does he have
to do it this year? Does Lamar Jackson have to
win a ring this year to stamp himself, to solidify himself.
I don't think he has to win it this year.
Like now everyone's going to hold over his head. But
I don't think he has to win it this year.
He's gonna be playing for a long time, so he's
(15:47):
one of I think he's the goat man. I think
he's the best player in the NFL. Like he just
keeps getting better.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I feel a man, I.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Do and and it's a team game, man. And when
it gets to the player is some turnovers here, it's
the wrong mistake there, and it cast you the game, bro,
Like it cost you the game. You're going home, Like
it's no best of five, best of seven playoff.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, this is eliminating.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's why we played the hardest game in sports, bro,
because of that single elimination, like single game elimination. And
that's why it's if you it's that day, it's that day.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And sometimes in the NFL in the playoffs, that day. Bro.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, it's just it's a tough man, it's tough game.
You ain't got the health. You have some characteristic penalties.
The ball do on bosh away a couple of times,
like you go home. You don't get a game to
game three, game four, game five. So it's it's a
team game. And yes, Lamar has a lot to do
with how the team goes.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
He is with that team. They go behind Lamar, they
go as Lamar goes.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But I feel he's like the best player in the league, man,
And I don't feel like he.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Has to win it this year.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Do I suret of he wins it, the better because
it'll keep getting these haters off his back here. Yeah,
but he doesn't have to win it this year. Man,
He's golded, eas stamped.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Man. He should have been three time MVP. Josh Allen
deserved the last one.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But I'm like Lamar just had a year that nobody,
no quarterback has had in the NFL history, you know,
throwing for four thousand, rushing for whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think he went over a thousand.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like so he's still doing stuff that's never been done.
He so he's the greatest. He just needs to get
that championship.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Do you think they start to give him that that
Lebron treatment when it comes to postseason accolades? Like Lebron
was putting up twenty eight, nine to nine every year,
but somebody else will win MVP, somebody else will win.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The next year.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Look, Lebron eventually got his and three four of them, right,
I mean, you can arguably say Lebron can have twelve though,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
We're being honest. So do you think Lamar I have
some of them teams that he had was mediocre.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Some of the early teams he had was mediocre, that
was mid like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So so so yeah, so I feel like Lamark running
to Lebron. I'm talking about Lebron, about Lebron, you know
what I mean. But even you know, now they got
more pieces around Lamar.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So I feel like he could run into That's the
whole part of the the recognition. Yes, man, it's a
ring culture. Yeah, you know, because ring he had not
taking away anything Josh Allen did.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
He was incredible, was MVP.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But Lamar Jackson had forty one touchdowns, four interceptions the Sea.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
The season was just unheard of, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's the m v P. That's an MVP year. So
he should have been three time MVP. Let's be honest,
But shout out to Josh Allen for what he did.
I respect Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
He's a ball. The Bills are great.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But Lamarsha that had the MVP for the third time
last year back to.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Back, by the way, is not great. Let's not just
a brush out whatever, man, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Hey, so so yeah, you played Dolphins, Bills, Dolphins Patriots,
Saints Falcons.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm taking it back.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Who do you guys knows what's the what's the most
nastiest ri I'm taking it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I say Saints Falcons. For me, especially being in New
Orleans for so long, I had more experience with that rivalry.
And as you just said, it was Dolphins, Bills, Dolphins Patriots,
so it's like they had two rivalies that got a
lot of history, a lot of bad blood, but the
Saints got this.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
One long hop. Yeah, yeah, dirty bird it is. It's
an odd c to day.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And I when I super when I came into League
twenty thirteen, like I didn't know that was the thing, honestly,
Like I'm from southern Illinois, didn't I wasn't in the South,
So I didn't know that Saints Falcons robbery.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Was was what it was like that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It was like that soon adopt like I hate them folks, Broym. Yeah,
I just like that, yes at all. I don't like them,
hate them folks. And it's not for nothing else. But
I was I was the saying like I don't like
y'all straight up what y'all did wrong? But serious up
played Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
If you played there? What ten years? Nine years? I
was there for nine years?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, so I was there shoot basically ten like it's Ingraindans,
it's ingrad thing you At that point, I just had
to ask.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I had to run that back. Got it? You got it?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I ask you about Yeah, l J should have been
three time AVP show. Let me actually bout another quarterback
dual threat. Budda Baker says Kylin Murray is the NFL's
most underrated quarterback.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
He told men the comes. We haven't had a lot
of national games. People kind of see him as a
shirt guy. But this guy can make all the throws
inside the pocket, outside the pocket.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
He's quick. You see it on tape.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's out running everybody all the time. Even like the
forty nine Ers game where in Sant fran he points
out to the touchdown forty fifty yards away knowing he
was going to score.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I haven't seen a quarterback do that. It's definitely exciting.
It's cool to just lay under the weeds and have
him at have him be the most underrated guy, and
just kind of show who he is this year and.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Throughout the season. It's color the most underrated quarterback in
the league. I'm not opposed to that. Uh that comment.
I think Kyler Murray is is very skilled. Like in
his game, especially in today's NFL. Man, it's it's it's
he's he's electric with the ball in his hands. He's uh,
(21:13):
he can throw the ball. He runs that r P
O and all. He runs the whole offense. Man, he's
a he's a good he's a good player.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And uh, when he's playing well man, that team, you know,
it's you got to have a Q man, you gotta
have a C.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I feel like Kyler.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Murray is a is one of those guys that can
make a difference.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And uh yeah he whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I don't care he's short, whatever they say, Like he's
a baller dog, you know what I mean. So he
makes plays, he does off schedule plays, He runs the ball,
he throws the ball. They got him some weapons, so
you know, I think Kyler Murray is is.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I like Kyler Murray man. I'm a fan of Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And I'm real particular when we're when we're discussing players
and we call somebody good, really good, great, and you
know what I mean, we start, you can't say great,
you can't say particular with that, and you referred to
color as good right now, which I think he's a
good quarterback, I really do.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I think he can do everything. I'm very respectful of players, too, Michelle.
I'm a player. In fact, I'm a player, man. I'm
very respectful of players, especially you know, you see him
working and overcome adversity. He's had some tough injuries.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Hard to do.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Playing, Yeah, it's hard to do and you out there
with the Rams and the Niners in that NFC with
that West whatever, Yeah West, that's like the Rams Niners
like shoot man a Z wasn't worth nothing with no
quarterback for a while, like what was Kurt Warner was
the last one to take him?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Like, I don't know, bro, how can how can or
can Colin go from good to really good or good
to great this year?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Like? How can he do that? What do you need
to do? Win?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's what have come down to come down to.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You gotta win.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The quarterbacks that like, they just don't give you the
love or appreciation you deserve unless you win.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You can put up the numbers. You have to win,
and so you have to win out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
There in the division that has you know, the the
Niners who aren't what they were two years ago, you know,
and then you got the Rams who are making moves.
You got the Seahawks. You know, they're they're used to being,
you know, contended for the division.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
So you gotta win, Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's just that's the bottom line as a quarterback, especially
one where they're saying you're underrated or you don't get
to love you deserve, you gotta win. I think that's
what he could do. He gotta win, that's what That's
what it comes down to. Every time it does. And
I've seen I've seen Colinmary. I'm a fan of his game.
I've seen his improvement over the years. I do want
to see a bigger jump, though. I do want to
see a year seven now. Damn is it you're seven
(23:49):
to eight something like that. He's definitely veteran. Now, man,
let's see right now, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Let's see be.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Bro Arizona in in Miami this year and it was
to a first game back and we was super excited. Offensively,
we played solid, We score more points than we had
did the previous several weeks. But Calin Murray beat us
like fourth quarter, last two persented.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Colin Murray beat us. He's in the seventh season. Damn.
I ain't no coluim in the leg that long.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Telling you though, So he has to take the step
federal quarterback. You got a second deal. You got Marvel
Harrison Junior and other Budda Baker, you got, you got players,
you know what I mean. But it's a team game too.
It's a team game.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Gotta stay healthy, gotta win games. Like I think that's
been a prole McCarley.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He's had some injuries, man, Uh, you know, and hasn't
won enough games.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Quite frankly, No, that's a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I think this year you asked me, I'm a Kyler
Murray fans, You asked me what he has to take
the next step.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But I want to know talking to you as.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
As one of these people out here who are saying
Kyler Murray has one enough games and that's why he's underrated,
like budh Beca says, or he doesn't get the respect
he deserves.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
We both talked about these fan bases that we hate.
I hate the Falcons fans. I hate the Buffalo Bills fans.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You hate to Stealers fans, Falcons fans, Jared Verus. Recently
there's other fans too, I'm sure, but I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Uh, the Rams out standing rookie they had last year,
Jared Verse.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You showed him some love. You said he was one
of them ones. He different, Bro, he different.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I have no problem saying that the boys, He's gonna
be a problem for many years. He can stay healthy, bro. Yeah,
he wanted them one different. Yeah, I can I can
spot it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I can spot them, feel me when somebody that's different,
and I'm gonna show love Tom you for real real
ones to Bro, he can't you can't hate to play
I hate you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
He can't hate the play.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I hate that game.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So but he said that how much he hates Eagles
fans what he called him the best opposing fan base
to go against.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Who's a who's a fan base that.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You hate, but you also love to go to that
stadium like that really is just a great place to
play and gets you going.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You you're ready to run all over. I love playing
in away games, dog.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I love when they loud, and I love when I
break a run and weren't we're one of they butt
over and I'm flexing and they just do quiet, you
know what I mean? Like yeah, no, we're still here
and you do it for both folk quarter ain't nothing
like them away games, bro, But uh, I mean, Machansas
City is a place where it's tough to play.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Man in my time Seattle.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I hate Minnesota, like obviously it's that that runs real
bad blood. I hate Minnesota, but it's a good place
with in Philly. They nasty in Philly, Man, they they
nasty in Philly, but it's a good place to shut
them up too, and we did that too in Philly.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Before you feel me, so yeah man, and then yeah,
those are some Those are some teams that come to
the front of my mom. He is Buffalo. I hate the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Buffalo AFL Buffalo. We shut them up big up there,
but they got me one time up there too when
I played for Houston. But I went for about a
buck something and three tuddies up there in Buffalo jumping
in they stands. Yeah, yeah, beer for sure. I got photos,
(27:21):
beer for show, got photo fire photo too.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, Buffalo, I hate them like I hate the fans.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
The team they're good too, so that made not always
make it worse like the team is actually really good,
so it's hard to be so. In my time in Miami,
I didn't I didn't beat Buffalo, and Buffalo didn't get
one of those lost to them in the playoffs, close game.
But that environment they got up there is real football,
like list they got the little I.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Played up there. Yeah with the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I played up there with the Ravens, got away with
a closed up bro that Buffalo is.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's a legit place to play ball too. Man. They
go crazy up there, for sure. I respect Buffalo man.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Before I get you up out of here, Duce, Duce
just got one or two more for you. So you
know how you just said you respect players.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I respect players. I'm never gonna be one.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Of them guys just taking shots at players. If we're
gonna talk football, let's talk football. But recently saying Terrell
Owens called Deebo Samuel's fat, he said he two chicken
nuggets away from tipping the scale.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
What's your respond I feel about that?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
What you think about the old heads when they come
back and talk about the players.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, man, I'll tell you man, I just I'm not
one of them ones that.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Just do that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
But I mean too t o Field Man, It's always
been outspoken, man. I mean, I'm just not wanting to,
you know, take shots to somebody with Oh, I ain't
got no reason to.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I'm just more chill, bro. I'm just more chill man.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And I'm not out here to try to get clicks
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I respect people, and I show people love, and I
hope people do the same return. I call it how
it is and what I see. But I'm not out
here just to attack people.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You're speaking on the game. You're speaking on the game.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You're not talking about people physically or I mean yeah,
I mean he Debo is stout he'd be running folks
over man.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
But yeah, shoot yeah, but whatever. Yeah that's different, Bro,
that's different what you feel about it. Yeah, but you
feel I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like it, bro, I'll be against them, you know when
the retired player, even the legends, like, well, we're talking
about a player, but let's let's focus on the game.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Let's focus on the technique. Whatever. Don't just be throwing
shots at a player for no reason. Bro, Yeah, we
just be chilling. I ain't with all.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
He was getting a lot of that, a lot of
shots being thrown at him. He told him, Folks, hey,
we get screed, we get scrappy from Hawaii. From Hawaii, man,
people think it's be talking at the side of their
neck career and like, yeah, like you really can't get
beat up in real life. Say we get scrappedy our
(30:14):
talking crazy?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah? People thinking that ships sweet? It's really sours really
on everything. Man on me. If people get folks to
get beat up in real life, we ain't got to
take it. There. We ain't gotta take it there.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Last one I got for you, dudes, we talked about
it's a quarterback league.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You got the young boy down in New Orleans Draft
the second round, Tyler Shock.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Are you confident him in him taking a starting job
or you or you think Sprince Spencer Radler will be
able to hold him off, or how you feel that
he'll be able to do in his rookie campaign If
Tyler was able to take the starting starting job week one.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I don't know, stad. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You study college game on college game day every week,
big noon, big game Day, my fault, my fault, big no, everywhere,
locked in.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You study not But that's like the competitor though, and
what we do that's on me. Scratch that. Let's take
that out. I know you're good. You good.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Good people make people, people make people make the mistakes, so.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But college players closer. That's why, that's why, that's why. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I really don't know too much about Tyler and Louisville.
I know that he has uh, he's tall, and that
the nice quarterback frame, got a big arm uh, supposedly
very cerebral with the game, and so obviously if you,
and he's played a while. I think he's a little
(31:55):
bit older for the quarterbacks. You've seen a lot of
the older quarterbacks come in and kind of be successful
because they've had had reps, they've had experience. So you know,
a room for the kid man. I hear he has
intengibles from inside the building. I hear good things from him, obviously.
I hear good things about spender Rally too. I feel
like he didn't get a special Raller didn't really get
(32:15):
a great shot last year because when he was getting
the snaps, it was against the offensive lines who was injured.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Most of his receivers were injured. Shoot, even the album
was injured a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So I never thought he really got a fair shade
as far as the look that he got last year
when he was taking the snaps as a number one guy.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
But obviously, I know those two guys are competing.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Uh you know in this training camp, and uh shoot,
we'll see what they do.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Man. You know, because Spencer was a rookie last.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Year, So you got Spencer, you got Tiler, who's the
rookie now spent the second round pick on It's gonna
be an interesting decision.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
To see who wins that quarterback job.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know, and uh so we'll see man who that
baby who.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
That for life. Yes, it's interesting to see Tyler.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I know that they have been loud about how talented
he is, how much he's come in and you know,
trying to take command of the offense, commanding the huddles,
trying to dictate things as the line.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
That's that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm with you, especial Raller didn't get a fair chance,
didn't get to get to see what he actually has
to bring to the table. So it'd be interesting down
there and trying to camp with the Saints.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Man, you know, he got to compete. Man, gotta win
the job.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Man's growing in watching this you kind of know what
quarterback has, what quarterback doesn't, and decisions you make.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
So we've been you know, we've been fortunate enough to
not have to, you know, see quarterback battles like for
real reason for you know, Drew Breezy, you know, he
was with Tua like I was with l Jack.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
You know, lamar freaky, you hear me, so freaky.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
But you know what it's supposed to look like, man,
you know, and I'm sure they're gonna pick the right guy.
And boys ain't doing that training camp in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It say it's too hot. They're going out to Cali,
going to California. But hey, smart decision.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Too hotest place in the world, New Orleans. The end
of July, that August, that September. Boy, that ain't be
ugly training camp. They got the nerve to say heat advisory,
fans be hydrated, to be careful.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
It'll tell us no heat avis. It'll be like, all
right out there, live goal linon, let's get it. Fans
out there passing out trying to see nine O seven
bro selling beers. I'm like, oh they really going.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Nine am they out there selling Bruis.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Beers? Dog? They out there? Turn nation?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Who that nation is like that? That nation is like that?
Man for sure, y'all.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Some crazy people love them. Dudes.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Dudes, I'm gonna let you get up out of here,
my good brother. We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Jumping on nightcap in the absence of Uncle Sha and
Big Dog Jo Sinko.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Man, what honor man?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know be able to you know, just get on here,
vibe you know, on the Uncle Shay on the nightcap.
O Choe everyone behind you know this this production. Man,
it's an honors of privilege to be on here tonight
vibing with my brother from another man. I'm just thankful, appreciative,
always honored to be able to spend time with good people.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So anytime I'm just already and thankful. So anybody that
tune in, man, we appreciate y'all. Spread love, spread positivity,
and let's keep you pushing. You said you love you,
brother Bell, love you too, family, My close brother right there,
mark Ingram signing off Nightcap here take over week two.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
He staid filling in hosting on Nightcap, feeling in for Shinnon,
shark O, Jo Sinko. I showed Joe, I show Joe
Johnson had it fortunate injury playing I believe in Big
Three recently, which is why he's absent for the night.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
So thoughts some prayers with I so Joe that.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
There's nothing serious, that the legend is able to recover
real soon.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
We'll keep talking some football though. Man, it's a lot
of a lot of news going on. It's usually a
really quiet time throughout the offseason when we see here.
Not much going on in ABA finals, just just finish
shout out to OKAC and this window is just baseball
on hockey's over. WNBA is still going. I'm definitely locked
(36:39):
into the w NBA. They are ballin, ballin.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I went to New York Liberty game recently. I went
to a New York Liberty game.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Last week before Fanatics Fest, and I will honestly say
I've been in the NFL for twelve years, I can
honestly say that is a top three game experience out
of all sports, all games. New York Liberty home game,
it's a top three game experience.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
A lot of you not it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
It was insane, insane, A lot of you not definitely
pushing that, pushing the WNBA. But back to the NFL.
It's this trade that happened today has really awakened US
sports fans, awaken US football fans as we anticipate to
start a training camp. I've had the privilege of being
(37:33):
in Miami for the last three years, so I was
getting on the plane when I heard the news, and
I got the news that they traded Jalen Ramsey and
John Ousmith to the Steelers and in return for Mika
Fitzpatrick and the fifth round pick.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And crazy enough. I get a call from Chris Greer.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
So Chris Greer is the the GM of the of
the Miami Dolphins. And I on the phone with Chris,
and he's talking about kind of everything else, Like he's
acting about how how much twin daughters do when the
basketball tournament, he's acting about, uh, the next time. I'm
(38:13):
back in the neighborhood, just you know, And I'm like, Chris, yeah,
three hours ago, you just made this blockbuster trade.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Like we've been on the phone four minutes. You haven't
come on, Let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So I'm talking to I'm talking to Chris, and I'm
asking me how you feel about how you feel about
the trade.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And Chris Greer, he's he spoke on the situation at hand.
So you got your all world corner. Who's who's upset
and he wants to be elsewhere. And we've seen historically
through this situation. The other thirty one teams know your situation.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
They know you're like in a back, back against the
wall type situation because this player doesn't want to play
for you, So you don't want to hold somebody in
the building that's going to bring bad energy or negative
vibe or g know somebody that don't want to play
for you. So other teams know, all right, I don't
have to give up X, Y and Z to get
this guy because he wants to leave anyway, So they
(39:15):
have to make a move. So teams usually they wait
that out, they wait that situation out. So for Chris
to be able to pair Jayalen Ramsey that you're gonna
lose and all world talent that you're gonna lose for
almost nothing, He's able to pair Jayalen Ramsey with the
(39:36):
phenomenal Johnald Smith, who just had a career year first
time Pro Bowl, was the most consistent, was the offensive
MVP of the season for the Miami Dolphins, if we're
being completely honest.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
No question, he was the MVP.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You pair him and Jayalen Ramsey, who's gonna lose anyway
together and you bring back in the whole world safety
and a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I think, h in.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Worst case scenarios or best case scenario, that's plus.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
That's that's that's the that's a win. That's a win.
But I said, the stillness game, buck.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
The volume
Speaker 3 (40:18):
H
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