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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, we are back on the Way concept
presented by The Ring magazine, and today we had the
Furies returning to boxing officially. And yes, I said the Furies,
because Tyson Fury is back. He's fighting on Netflix, Fury
versus Macmudoff. This is going to be a interesting fight
to take a look at. I think everybody is favoring Fury,
(00:20):
but not just Tyson is back. Anytime Tyson rolls into town,
his father comes back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Big John Fury absolutely melted down at the initial launch
press conference yesterday for this fight, and then Tyson Fury
followed that up with being almost as delusional, if not
more delusional, than Deontay Wilder is.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Right now, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
There's lies being told, there's falsehoods being perpetuated, and there's
just crazy, psychotic Big John Fury back in the fold
and listen, you guys know, I love John Fury. I
think he's one of the most entertaining people in boxing,
but this one was even a stinker for him. It's
almost like trying to drive by a car crash, which
you don't really want to look because you got to
(01:00):
focus on what's important, but you can't also look away
and at the end of it, you just hope everyone's
okay and you shake your head.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
A probably terrible decision from one person or another.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So let's take a look at this big car crash
of a press conference that had Big John Fury calling
out Carl Frotch, which we'll get to more of that,
and Tyson Fury talking a lot about his fights with
Alexander Usik, his fight with Macmudov, and some red flags
that I see for Tyson coming back. I love that
the Furies are back, but I hope it's not what
I think it's gonna be. What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Before the press conference even started yesterday, we had John
Fury walking into I guess this is Tottenham Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I could be wrong, but.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm pretty sure this is where they had the first
Connor Ben and Chris Ubank fight presser because I was there.
But John Fury, as always, he's very loud, very braggadocious,
very chaotic when either Tyson or Tommy fights, and this
time he is having a go at Carl Frotch. I
guess because of stuff Carl Froch had said on French
on fighting his channel and John Fury making a fool
(02:05):
of himself.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Will never get old to stake a look.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Run like the fucking bitch, helps roll like a fucking bitch.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
All out of the fuckers.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Call John Fury on the fucking video.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I I'm afraid of any one the walks.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm afraid of no man. Only God on Mighty, how
many the pretaches?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
All this?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Fuck MISCHERI fuck this man pools up there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He's this fucking me, John Fury. Don't gonna fuck about Norman.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Some fucking respectrum my day because when he mentioned John
Fury's name, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Run like freaking bitch?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Is cowdros run cow cross?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh my, John's voices cracking. He said, John Furrey afraid
at a man that walks? Is he afraid of guys
that don't want no? Is he afraid of dudes that run?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You know what I'm saying? What about a slight job? John?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He's in rare form. I mean, I know you know
what he's not. This is typical John Fury form. But
he comes in uh saying, you know, put some respect
on my name. Carl Frocher a bitch, You're a bitch.
I mean, I don't know what again, if John is
upset because Carl has called him out for being an
absolute lunatic, which he is at most points during Tyson
or Tommy's build up, I mean, look at look at
(03:21):
John Fury during the k SI Tommy Fury build up
when he is smacking his head against the plastic separator
for the face off, or he's kicking the table and
shit's going flying, or if he's headbutting a one of
Alexander Ussik's team in Saudi Arabia before their fight. I mean,
there's countless things that John has done, not to mention
going to jail for ripping a guy's eyeball out of
(03:42):
his head.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So yeah, pitch count rok pitch has the one El's
been calling it, you know me.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You the funniest part about this is John is like
running around saying, Carl's.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Running like a bitch. Carl, You're running like a bitch.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And meanwhile, Carl Frotch is standing right next to Lennox Lewis,
and John is like, where are.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You, Carl. He's like looking around like he can't see
Carl Frotch.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You can see Lennox Lewis standing there, but he can't
see Carl Frotch, he's asking where he is.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Look, he's like looking, you know, I'm gonna fight?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What I mean, unless it was some sort of like
tomato can matchup. Why would John Fury have ever fought
Lennox Lewis unless again, it was Lennox just as he
turned pro trying to fight a bunch of tomato cans.
Because John Fury was never anywhere close to the level
of fighter that Lennox Lewis was. And he's doing this
whole thing like I'm not scared of anyone, all right,
that's fine, But what are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Fight Carl Frotch while he's working for Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
People seem to think that when you go to these
events it's an excuse to like scrap out your issues.
I've even had this set about me, like why didn't
you pull up on Logan Paul when he was at
the event you worked for, Jake Paul, Like, because we're
there to do a job.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And I don't think that Netflix, or my case.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The oone, really gave a if I had a personal
issue with somebody while I'm on their company time.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Same with Carl Frouch here.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like he's he's doing work for Netflix on the stage,
he's got the the Netflix mic in hand.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
He's, you know, there to to.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Report on the Tyson Fury fight, and instead of doing
that job, John Fury would like for him to come
down there and scrap him. I guess, which is stupid
at obviously, but it's John Fury.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
So what do we.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I was gonna away from him, he said, that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay, so there was a point in time where Lennox
was gonna absolutely l spak o John Fury. Also, I
love the fact that, like he's talking to Linux like that,
not that he's you know, being super disrespectful, but he's
kind of like, yeah, Lenox, I was about to give
it to you, or I was gonna step up to
you when Lenox is his legacy is better than anything
(05:55):
John or what John's going to refer to is his
creation of Tyson Fury and how John is the only
reason for anybody being there. Lennox Lewis has a better
legacy than Tyson Fury does. I'm sorry, it's just true.
With that being said, he was already an all time
great before Tyson ever put on boxing gloves. So don't
know where John gets off talking to Lennox Lewis that way.
(06:15):
But okay, he says, get Carl Frontier.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
He's he's on the stage. He's on the same stage that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
John just looked up and had a full conversation. Meanwhile,
he's acting like he doesn't see Carl. It's so weird.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Anyone else that wants it, Pitchyl, He's.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Just standing there. Carl's just smiling laughing about it. Because
what else are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Like what is Carl gonna throw down the mic and
actually go and John Fury up? Because he would was
not begin of his day, and Carl Frotch would absolutely
if they had a little scrap right there, would stick
it on John Fiery.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Like we know this.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
If John Fury really wanted to like do something, he
wouldn't come and announce it in this big, grandiose way.
He would have walked up on Carl Frotch one on
one after he was done presenting whatever and stuck it
on him that way. That's how you know that John Fury,
as much as he wants to say he'll do it,
he'll this, He'll that, he didn't want no part of
actually going and scrapping Carl Frotch. If he really thought
(07:28):
all those things and he thought he would sack him up,
he would have waited till Carl was done. And by
the way, Carl was not on stage when they brought
Tyson up to do his interview, because I assume there's
some conflict there, so he could have done it.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Then.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
He could have done it at any point during the day,
but he chose the point where Carl has obligations to
act like a lunatic, because that's what's of course going
to make it look like John had any I don't
know standing to say any of that. This is when
Gareth A. Davies rolls up to the event and John
is going off on a tirade.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Let's watch this. Are you upsett and shady?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Are you upsetting?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What I love is that all the Fury kids just
have to kind of deal with it and listen. I
understand when my dad feels like he needs to have
an outburst, or when he's in need to show someone
he's in control of the room, of the situation, whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He kind of does this.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now, granted he's not John Fury, but having that personality trade,
I'm sure a lot of people can identify with their dads.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We're sons.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You don't want to disrespect your dad, right, and you
don't want to step on his toes because he still
has to feel like dad. So you just kind of
have to sit back there and just wait for him
to get done. And you're all right, all right, let's
get out of here. Bob's all right, you kind of done.
Tyson just seems like he's let the freaking leash off
John Fury and let him do whatever. In Rome, however,
Tommy looks like he's ashamed every time John does this
kind of ship. But I understand the feeling because they're
(08:55):
all kind of just like, oh.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
My god, fucking male pulls him a fucking mail.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He keeps car himself the ultimate Mail, puts some respect
on his knee.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
John can talk about the day night in the video.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm a coward designed my card.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm fucking that rung like a dog. I will fight.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I'll drop for fucking ap me. I'm going to fuck
any place any time anyway for nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So yeah, he's clearly upset that Carl Frch called him
a coward, But again, he's not gonna fight Carl. He's
not if he wanted to fight Carl. He could have
found him and scrapped it out and uh done it
before Carl ever got on stage.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But it is hilarious.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
So someone's upset John quite seriously there. You know, I'm
being told it might be Carl Froch froches here.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Maybe it's the calm almost PBS like delivery there from
Gail cared bial.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Someone's upset John Fury.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
John doesn't hold back on these occasions, very passionate around
when his sons are fighting. He's always very very passionate.
I wonder if I can get a word with him.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's one that's.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Right.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
We get very passionate on these occasions.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Don't people talking about me come to the fuck about it?
Shout out down man.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm certain in that middle seat me, not some freak
gold digger.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What I should be. I don't know who he's talking.
I assume he's talking to Carl Fridge. I'm not sure
he said I should be in the middle spot, not
some freak gold digger talking about the presentation team. And
John needs to rightfully have that spot for reasons we
don't know. I knows how.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
He's bullets seated be for golf for these gold diggers.
These bullets treated millions for these gold diggers.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Treat me with some fucking respect.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No mine, fucking tower shit down here.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He's talking about Carl Frodge dude, a multiple times super
middleweight champion of the world, and John has like, put
some respect on my name.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's about me.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I created all this. I'm the alpha male, the ultimate male.
And listen, does John have a point that without him
that Tyson Fury is not alive and therefore they're not
at this press conference and Tyson doesn't fight, so people
can't comment, sure, I guess, but there was always gonna
be other fighters that we were gonna comment on that
(11:11):
we were going to make press conferences for that were
gonna be on Netflix. Tyson's not the first fighter on Netflix.
We've already seen Terrence Crawford, Canelo, Jake, Paul, Mike, Tyson,
I man As, Ronal, Kay Taylor, Anthony Joshua another UK
heavyweight champion that did it first. Now again, is Tyson
a massive name? Of course?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is he gonna draw eyeballs that most in boxing won't?
For sure? Is John Fury a character and captivating in
his own way?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But what the kind of main character syndrome. Does John
Fury hold that. He's like, this is all me, Netflix me.
He's pointing down there, and Lennox Lewis is on that
freaking panel.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Dude, come on, treat me some fucking respect. No, mine,
fucking shower shit down here. I made all this.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Here's the statements here. It is what I just spoking
my books.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh my god, he's saying his life story doesn't sound
as cool when it's when it's put that way.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Like your biggest accomplishment is blowing a load. Great show
you twiny violence.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
He is imprison and being a pull vice you think meso.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Never Coy's in here bother me.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But when I meet you, it's a different manta.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
When looking at them, Jo almost Captain.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Almost captain insanoed himself, Dude, that might be the thumbnails.
That's where he knows these most effective people's eyes up.
Dude is ripping eyeballs out of skulls.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Before we move into the actual fight, Carl Frotch responded
to John Fury, this is what he had to say
again on Frosh on Fighting his channel. Very smart move.
It's banging views right now. Here's a response I'm.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Still there about a lot on air, and I'm thinking, oh,
please go away, just like pipe down and leave us alone,
because you're not gonna do anything. You'd been downstairs, you
know exactly where I was. I didn't run anywhere. Run
like a bitch, he said, this is.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So they before they even went on air, John Fury,
I guess, had seen Carl Frois and didn't do anything, which,
again is it puts this whole like I'm the ultimate
mail Carl Frost run like a bitch. That's not anywhere
near what reality is. And if John really wanted to
have it out, he could have found Carl before they
went on air, before he got on the stage, after
he got on the stage, while they were walking out,
(13:33):
at any point and quietly done this. But make it
a big spectacle means you don't want to fight.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
I didn't have nowhere to run, squeaky voice, you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Where I was.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
He didn't come anywhere near me. You just talk to
good empty vessels, make the most noise. He's got no
intentions of having a fight. If he wants to have
a fight, let's put it out here now. I've would
have mum's Taylor. Let's get on misfits because that's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh okay, we're setting up a misfits fight.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Carl John. John will never do that. John would absolutely
not do that, no way, shape or form, unless he.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Got paid some insane number.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Or he'll ask for some insane number, which is like,
in no way, shape or form what he's worth, and
he'll price himself out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But Carl Friedwood stretch.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Him misfits in it. That's what this is. Big jump
fuel in a fighting man. Put some respects on your name.
Put some respects on your own name. Grow a set
of ackers. You said, you know what you're afraid of.
No man, book, God and me and you can do it.
We can do it. And I'll be honest. I'll take
my time with you. I'll pep you off a couple
of jabs. I'll leave you with a couple of writings
to the body, and when you fall on the floor,
(14:41):
I'll help you up because that's what happened. Embarrassing. You've
just embarrassed yourself there and you'll embarrass yourself again. You
need to stop doing it, Tyson. Fury doesn't need you
in your big gob Shine now running around shouting and swearing,
being a idiot in public. It is a complete embarrassment.
Please stop it unless you're gonna do something about it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, listen, I don't want John Fury to stop
it because while yes, it's embarrassing for him and he
makes a fool of himself so much, it does create attention.
It creates buzz. You can't deny that, right. You cannot
deny that John Fury when he's acting an absolute fool,
is entertaining.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But it doesn't matter because at the end of the day,
we're gonna watch Tyson Fury anyway. It's just John promoting
fights the way John does and be in a psycho.
And here's Joe Egan who has been calling for a
fight with John Fury on Misfits. This is a former legendary,
former spar partner with Mike Tyson, and uh, him and
Joe excuse me, Him and John have gotten beef from
way back, it seems like, and John he's the one
(15:39):
man that John don't.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Want to usually respond to. But let's hear Joe Egan.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
Hey, Joe Fury, So yeah, condo that choice's press cone
for yesterday.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Don't here the Alkshiman fucking male, Thelma, fucking male.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You never fuck with this guy. I recket.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
You have no shame quoting Yourselfhie. Ultimately Mail, what should
he care? Told the lips and broke.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's actually I was trying to figure out where i'd
heard that. That is Thunderlips. That's Old Cogan in the
Rocky three movie. That's so funny.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
In the first Favor, the Ultimate Mail, I'll grow your
blonde locks, John when we meet, whether it.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Be in a box of ring or on the cobbles.
I'm gonna put manners on you when they eat you
with my right hand jump for everyone. Be counted one two, three, four,
I will put you asleep. Good, I'm proper.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
John.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
Be counted Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh my goodness, Joe, someone grab the fire extinguisher. He's
spinning heat.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I've never heard anyone say that as much boxing trash
talk as I've ever heard. I've never heard anyone say
I'm gonna put you to sleep so proper.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The ref won't.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Count one two three, He'll count Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. That's insane, Okay, Joe.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
I'm gonna give the world.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Put a rest from your melt job, because that's what
you are, is a milk piece. Okay, Now listen, when
you look into my eyes on the day with me, John,
I will see fear in your eyes. You won't see
fear in my eyes because you spelled the word fear
(17:31):
forget everything and wrong. See me, I spelled the word fear,
face everything, and rise and I will rise.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh my, who's writing for this man?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Who's this ghost writer? There's no way this is off
the top of the dome. Son, you bully?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You have the friend jo.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
Right, it's coming, job.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I ain't read to Steve Man it's coming. What the fun?
I didn't even see that. That's bullshit? All right, there's
Joe Egan.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Uh, And so Carl Fritch and Joe Egan are essentially
being like, all right, John, you want that smoke? Here
it is and pure deform. Here is John Fury's response
to both of them. At one time, he's on a RUNI.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He's getting ready for his fight. Maybe listen, maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm counting out John Fury, and I shouldn't count on
the fighting Fury name. Maybe I shouldn't because here he
is on his run, ready to go and addresses them both.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's staller pretender's out there. They wearing frocks. I knew
the fucking juice had time run. Note for your boys,
I'm gonna bump into you. I'm gonna do here's a statement.
I'm gonna do the tour on the same night. You
can do me. You two shithouses can try and to me,
you can do me.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Hey, hold on to me, boys, to me, Come on, John,
I'll batch this to huh.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm telling you now, it's like your fucking parol boy.
It's not your fucking peril. And if I've gonna go
back to jails for you two sit houses, you fucking
for Gazy's fakes, I don't mind doing it. Don't believe me.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Look here he's spitting. He's spitting while he's running.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Running training twenty stone nine pound. I'll fucking chew yours
up and smits out. There's men taking juice to be
is because the John Fury, I seat bechsteak and stew
and eat worms eat worms for breakfast like you.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The worm frocks who shot yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's spit on his lists and II worms like you
for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay, John, I.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Want to say, no, you for gazy, you pussy, I'll
fix you. Want to see your mate, I'll got.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He spit on the camera.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Into oblivion, and your fat, fucking ugly mate with you
your camera to Joe Eagan, Poe, Hey, I'll fix you too, mate.
Times run out for yours.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
There you go, man, Times up. I've been said I
want to see John Fury and Joe Egan fight. I've
been said it because let's be honest, if John Fury
really wanted it with Carl Frotz, he would have stuck
it on him at the freaking presser.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He would have stuck it on him. He had every
opportunity to it. He didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
No matter how much he spits and snarls and goes
for runs. He said, he's twenty stone nine pound.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
How much is that? Damn near three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Fuck, he's not lasting more than two minutes in a
ring with I mean they did, won't even go to
two minutes thirty seconds with Carl Fronch. But him and
Joe Egan, come on, now, I need to see that.
But can we all right, that's out of the way now.
John Fury again just being an absolute psycho car for
the course, but this one was even more hilarious than most.
(20:36):
We need to talk about the actual fight though, Tyson
Fury taken on our slam Beck Macmoodoff.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
This is an interesting fight.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Number two ranked Russian got the big win over David
Allen had a tough loss Kybel. Obviously, people are struggling
with kabe Al. He might be, you know, a world
champion at some point in the very near future. But
this is Tyson Fury taking a I don't want to
say tune up fight, but kind of do you want
to say tune up fight before he comes back to
an even bigger fight, right? We have potentially depending on
what goes on with Anthony joshuas you know, mental and
(21:07):
is he still wanting to commit to boxing as a whole.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We'll see, but that fights out there. I don't really
want to.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
See Usik versus Tyson Fury three, but I don't see
why else Tyson will be coming back to the sport
after retiring for five or six times. But listen, you
don't have to ask me. Let's talk to Tyson himself
and see why he's come back to boxing.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Why have you decided to come back and was there
a catalyst.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Was there one moment where you thought, do.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I've still got it?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I came back for one reason only, and that's to
make boxing great again. Since I retired for the fifth
time over a year ago, boxing for me has gone
on a downward slope. It's become quite boring. And boxing
is at its maximum potential when Tyson Fury is actively fighting.
And I didn't say that, and Ai the cleverestday ion
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I have said that chat GVT so.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
That ChiPT Tyson The boxing's at its best when he's
in it, and I agree. I'll be honest, it's not
that boxing, in my opinion, has been boring at all.
We've had some fantastic fights over the last year, but
it doesn't hurt when the personality, the skill.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The the aura, the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Intangibles of Tyson Fury is in boxing. He's one of
the biggest stars in the sport. It's just like saying, yeah,
when Canelo fights, boxing is big time. Same with Tyson Fury.
Of course, He's right, boxing is better when he is
in the sport. Now again, I don't know that boxing
needs Tyson Fury more than Tyson Fury needs boxing, but
that's a different conversation. He's right, though, it's clearly better
when he's a part of boxing.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I'm looking forward to the event.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'm looking forward to coming here, putting on a burial
show up Tottenham, and most of all, I'm looking forward
to punching his face right in to be fat.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's been a while on a mistic what better think
of what I was like? All right, whatever, dude, my.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Mom too the old man's facing and get paid a
lot of money to do it. I missed it a lot.
And now we've got big Mattmdov over there. I'm going
to write him straight off completely. I'm gonna make his
face look like a butcher's block after our four ROMs,
and I suppose the biggest turning point in this come
back for me was a tragedy that happened with Antony Joshua.
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I was on holiday with my family in Thailand for Christmas,
just to get away from the rain, sick of the rain.
It was depressing me. And then I hear all lot
bad news that's gone on, and I thought, you know what,
life is very very short and very precious and very fragile,
and anything could happen at any given moment, and you
should never never put things off until tomorrow or next
year or next week, because tomorrow is not promised to nobody.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The Bible says, tomorrow is not a gift.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Tomorrow ain't promised.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
A man love that message.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And you know, as much as there's a rivalry between
Tyson and Anthony Joshua, I love to see him drop
the act a little bit. And really he kind of
did this with Danty Wilder as well, talking about you
know how Danta's probably got some unresolved issues that he's
going through over that ice and fight, and Tyson kind
of has the same thing going on with Uzik. We'll
get to that in a second, but here he was
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talking about the Anthony Joshua situation and you know, the
tragic loss of life obviously that Anthony, you know, in
that Corecress, he lost his two best friends in Africa,
and here was Tyson talking about it.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Boxing rivalry is one thing, but humanity, human life is another.
In this comeback tour, I haven't mentioned AJ one time.
I only wished him all the best. I wasn't there.
I don't know exactly what's gone on, but what I've
heard and what I've seen. It's been catastrophic and eventful
to say the least. So if the Lad wants to
come back boxing, fantastic for him. And if he doesn't,
he's done, marvelous. Congratulations. But yeah, I've got nowhere no
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mause feelings towards the Lad. Never, I've never will do.
It's sports one thing, but when within things like that happen,
it could have been me, It could have been New,
it could have been Frank, could have been any of
us in that car. And God has a plan for everybody.
So whatever his journey is is his own business.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And this is the stuff that made you.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean, granted I wasn't there in the UK on
the rise of Tyson Fury, but this is what I
assume made you fall in love with him, This is
what made you want to watch him is he was
an earnest guy. He was a guy that when he
spoke it it felt like he meant it right. When
he spoke, it felt like.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
This was a genuine dude. He was a little bit
off kilter for sure, but you could trust him.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
And now that Tyson has gotten, you know, further along
into his career and there's been you know, I don't
know the idea that Tyson is being cheated by the
sport and the Yusik fights again kind of mirroring what
Deontay Wilder says against him, and kind of the delusion
around those fights, and maybe some other things as well,
like when you criticize him and the media criticize him,
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then they're automatically labeled haters and all this stuff. That
kind of stuff turns you off to Tyson fury, but
moments like that really bring it back around. But here
he was continuing to talk about this fight and just
again what his mindset is after the two Usik fights.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I can't help somebody else's opinion from ringsides.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know him, my ha.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
I won them fights. Yeah, when you're a mom and
you fighting over mom, if you lose, you know you lose.
I's on fat fight.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Listen, he's got he did win, he's got his decisions.
He won him fat flight.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
I kissed him on the head, come gaunt, lighting him
fat fight. But he knows and I know he didn't
beat me. So by the end of the day is
what it is. He gets his decisions. Fantastic, He's won
the fight. I've got ja big death. He lost his
on me rec cold for guts what I'm the one
who brings it netflix to boxin and he's one who's
out in the cold kind and say he's wanting it.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
He's out in the cold.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's he beats you in the first fight, beat you
worse in the second fight, almost knocked Tyson out in
the first fight, made a shit ton of money doing it.
But now he's out in the cold. See this is
the stuff I say that about Tyson. And then we
come right back to this first off, he says, I
know I won those two fights. He can look at
me and not know that he won, but I won,
even though the judges didn't feel that way. He lost
a very close fight the first time around. I thought
he was winning the fight up until he got his
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ship rocked late in the fight and Usik took back over.
The second fight was a good back and forth, but
Usak took over and carried that momentum and took that
fight even more clearly unanimously. So Tyson has deluded himself
into thinking he won both fights, not one, both of them.
Is the same thing that we say about Deontay Wilder
and his delusions over Tyson cheating and the gloves and
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the you know, the water being spiked, and the manipulation
of his walkout suit and the trainer's not doing this
is the non acceptance that leads you down a dark path. Now,
if Tyson Fury is using that as motivation, fine, Deontay
Wilder used it in the third fight, still lost, but
put up a good fight versus Tyson Fury, and maybe
he uses it in motivation today. But he was the
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guy just a couple of days ago that was saying,
if Deontay Wilder can't let go of that loss, then
he's never gonna move on from it. If Tyson Fury
can't let go of those losses, he's never gonna be
able to move on from it, the same way he
told Deontay Wilder he's never gonna be able to I
don't know if it means he's never gonna be able
to be usick if they fought for a third time,
or that he's going to stay around in boxing for
too long, or that he's just gonna have.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This deep seated like pole in.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
His psyche that he just can't let go of because
he thinks, for some reason that he won those two
fights again, you can maybe argue the first fight the
second one, I don't know how you can. But then
he says that he's coming back for that trilogy, that
Usik needs him, and I don't necessarily disagree that Usik
would probably want to fight Tyson Fury on Netflix before
he'd want to fight Babbi Awardly, clearly, Kaveel, Moses Atalma,
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you know, any of the guys that are that next
crop of heavyweights creeping up and starting to take over.
At thirty eight years old, Lusik probably wants one or
two more fights than he's out of the sport. So
I don't think even a Daniel Dubois trilogy like the
Tyson Fury trilogy would would probably make a lot more
sense for Usik for sure, as much as I don't
know if I even want to see it, because what
else can Tyson really do to change the trajectory of
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that fight. You lose the first one, you lose the
second one worse, I don't know. And then you know,
when you pair that with Tyson's kind of idea about
where he stands in this equation between him and Usik, like, ah,
he needs me, there's a level of delusion here that
does kind of make you worry about this comeback for Tyson, like.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Are you doing this for the right reasons?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And even if you are coming back, do you truly
have the right focus in mindset, because here he is
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Again.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Listen, at the end of the year, he'll begging me
for a third fight. He's not me wanting to fight
with him, He'll begging me to do a fight with him.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, it's clearly not you coming back to boxing because
you can't let go of those two losses that Usik
hits you with, Like Tyson took a long break because
I think it really is messing with I think it is.
I think it's messing with his head that he's not
the greatest of this generation. And he really thought he
was both undefeated coming in I mean the tie with Wilder,
but both him and Usik coming in undefeated in that
first fight, and he loses, thinks I was close to the
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first one. I'll get him in the second, loses worse.
It's messed with him. And again, there's nothing wrong with that,
because Usik's the best of this generation, in one of
the all time great you could argue maybe the greatest,
but that'll stir up a bunch of shit in the comment.
But Tyson thought that was him and it's hard for
him to let go of it. I understand it. But
this idea he's going to be begging Tyson for a
third fight again. Maybe Usik does fight him for the
third one because shit ton of money on the line.
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Already beat the guy twice, Maybe some difficult, more difficult
matchups with power punchers, with these younger guys coming up,
or you know, more athleticism, speed, whatever. Starty got the
game plan to beat Tyson?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Did it twice?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Begging me? You watch you had ear first?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
What makes you think he'll be begging you money.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I'm the cash cow, top of the tree with the
biggest broadcast on behind me, not only for boxing, reality TV,
I'm documentaries. I'm that golden child. Where else is he
gonna go? Who's he gonna fight? Fight hard people for
no money? That sounds really really clever to do. Listen.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't disagree with him, as much as I don't
know if I want to. I don't want to go
down that path again. You know we've seen it twice.
I don't disagree that that matchup probably makes the most
sense for Usik himself, specifically, because a lot of money for.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
A guy you've beat twice.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Now Here is another thing that's kind of throwing me
off about Tyson Fury coming back, and again I'm just
wondering where his mindset is. He's talking a lot about
Usik in the third fight and kind of you know, again,
mac Mudov's a big puncher. He's twenty one and two
with nineteen knockouts. Tyson Fury damn near got beat by
Francis and Guan who in his first boxing match. Do
not forget that, and that was just a power puncher
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standing in front of Tyson Fury and yeah, okay, Fury
didn't train whatever, It's the same situation, overlooking the guy
in front of you to potentially get ready for the
guy after you, and it was Oosik at that point
as well. What you can't do is overlook a guy
that not only isn't in his first boxing match, but
is a nasty puncher at heavyweight as the number two
ranked guy in the world. Here is Tyson talking about
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how he has no trainer coming into this fight.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Just a word as well on the training team in
terms of who will be in your corner.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Come fight night, your dad is going to be around
and he's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But they just say on the top two you might
be adding to your team. Can he give any more
insight into that? I'm like club a Lang, I'm going
to train alone, train alone for this one. And that
is the plan. Train alone. Boy, He's been through it
so many times. He knows what to do.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
Is that how you feel?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I know I know how to do it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I know I have to go twelve rounds. I know
I have to fush myself when I need to. I
don't know how to take a rest one I need too.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That just don't sound great, y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
So no sugar Hill Steward in the corner, And yeah,
does Tyson have all the teachings that he learned under
sugar Hill, that he's learned in previous camps, that he's
learned in.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
His entire career. Sure? Does he know how to fight? Yeah?
Is he going to change his style?
Speaker 7 (32:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Is he gonna be much different than the Tyson we've
ever seen?
Speaker 9 (32:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But what about motivation and camp adjustments in camp specific
fight preps adjustments in the fight One of the biggest issues.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It felt like throughout.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
These last couple of fights for Tyson Fury was the
mismanagement in the fight, the lack of understanding for fight
strategy and adjustments during the fight. You had sugar Hill
and yelling instructions at Tyson, and then you also had
Big John Fury yelling instructions the wrong instructions at Tyson
for most of both of those fights, and it's like
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you do have a bit of a conflicting voice. And
maybe Tyson thinks that John is the right guy to
have and that they've been on this journey together for forever,
but I disagree. I think John as his cornerman is
a terrible move. And again, the structure around camp and
all of that that comes with having a coach that
has experienced like a sugar Hill, I don't know if
that's the right choice to just kind of wing it,
And you know, I don't have a coach. I don't
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We're just going to figure it out. Tyson knows better
than I do. Thirty seven years old, been in the game,
been a world champion, been one of the greats of
this generation. OPA works out for him. But again, when
you hear all that combined, you start to wonder Is
this the right idea for Tyson Fury? Love that he's back,
Love that a circus show is back with John Fury.
As much as it's it is embarrassing for John, it
is content and it is hilarious for the rest of us.
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But that's all I got for this one man. You guys,
let me know. What I'm finding out here from Tyson
and John is that they have some deep seated issues
that they can't let go of. For John Fury, he's
got this idealism of himself as the ultimate male and
anyone that talks shit has got to get sparked out,
even though he's never going to do that. And Tyson
Fury has a real hard time letting go of those
USIK fights. How does that affect him mentally? Even if
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he gets to the third USIK fight, what's going to
be different. He's told Deontay Wilder that he needs to
let go of all these delusions of grandeur about cheating.
Tyson Fury needs to do the same. Otherwise the third fight,
if it ever happens, is gonna go the same way,
maybe even worse. But listen, I don't know we're getting
this fight on April eleventh, on Netflix, Syson Fury, urslan
Bec Macmoudoff. Do not miss it and make sure you
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guys tune in This Saturday, myself Shobiz live from Las Vegas.
Our watch party for Ryan Garcia, Mario Borrios, The WBC Belt.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Is on the line.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's gonna be a great night in Vegas. I want
to see you guys there. What happens this Saturday. What
happens with Tyson Fury. I don't have those answers, but
I guess we'll find out
All right, folks, we are back on the Way concept
presented by The Ring magazine, and today we had the
Furies returning to boxing officially. And yes, I said the Furies,
because Tyson Fury is back. He's fighting on Netflix, Fury
versus Macmudoff. This is going to be a interesting fight
to take a look at. I think everybody is favoring Fury,
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but not just Tyson is back. Anytime Tyson rolls into town,
his father comes back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Big John Fury absolutely melted down at the initial launch
press conference yesterday for this fight, and then Tyson Fury
followed that up with being almost as delusional, if not
more delusional, than Deontay Wilder is.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Right now, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
There's lies being told, there's falsehoods being perpetuated, and there's
just crazy, psychotic Big John Fury back in the fold
and listen, you guys know, I love John Fury. I
think he's one of the most entertaining people in boxing,
but this one was even a stinker for him. It's
almost like trying to drive by a car crash, which
you don't really want to look because you got to
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focus on what's important, but you can't also look away
and at the end of it, you just hope everyone's
okay and you shake your head.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
A probably terrible decision from one person or another.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So let's take a look at this big car crash
of a press conference that had Big John Fury calling
out Carl Frotch, which we'll get to more of that,
and Tyson Fury talking a lot about his fights with
Alexander Usik, his fight with Macmudov, and some red flags
that I see for Tyson coming back. I love that
the Furies are back, but I hope it's not what
I think it's gonna be. What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Before the press conference even started yesterday, we had John
Fury walking into I guess this is Tottenham Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I could be wrong, but.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm pretty sure this is where they had the first
Connor Ben and Chris Ubank fight presser because I was there.
But John Fury, as always, he's very loud, very braggadocious,
very chaotic when either Tyson or Tommy fights, and this
time he is having a go at Carl Frotch. I
guess because of stuff Carl Froch had said on French
on fighting his channel and John Fury making a fool
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of himself.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Will never get old to stake a look.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Run like the fucking bitch, helps roll like a fucking bitch.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
All out of the fuckers.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Call John Fury on the fucking video.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I I'm afraid of any one the walks.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm afraid of no man. Only God on Mighty, how
many the pretaches?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
All this?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Fuck MISCHERI fuck this man pools up there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He's this fucking me, John Fury. Don't gonna fuck about Norman.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Some fucking respectrum my day because when he mentioned John
Fury's name, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Run like freaking bitch?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Is cowdros run cow cross?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh my, John's voices cracking. He said, John Furrey afraid
at a man that walks? Is he afraid of guys
that don't want no? Is he afraid of dudes that run?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You know what I'm saying? What about a slight job? John?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He's in rare form. I mean, I know you know
what he's not. This is typical John Fury form. But
he comes in uh saying, you know, put some respect
on my name. Carl Frocher a bitch, You're a bitch.
I mean, I don't know what again, if John is
upset because Carl has called him out for being an
absolute lunatic, which he is at most points during Tyson
or Tommy's build up, I mean, look at look at
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John Fury during the k SI Tommy Fury build up
when he is smacking his head against the plastic separator
for the face off, or he's kicking the table and
shit's going flying, or if he's headbutting a one of
Alexander Ussik's team in Saudi Arabia before their fight. I mean,
there's countless things that John has done, not to mention
going to jail for ripping a guy's eyeball out of
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his head.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So yeah, pitch count rok pitch has the one El's
been calling it, you know me.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You the funniest part about this is John is like
running around saying, Carl's.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Running like a bitch. Carl, You're running like a bitch.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And meanwhile, Carl Frotch is standing right next to Lennox Lewis,
and John is like, where are.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You, Carl. He's like looking around like he can't see
Carl Frotch.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You can see Lennox Lewis standing there, but he can't
see Carl Frotch, he's asking where he is.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Look, he's like looking, you know, I'm gonna fight?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What I mean, unless it was some sort of like
tomato can matchup. Why would John Fury have ever fought
Lennox Lewis unless again, it was Lennox just as he
turned pro trying to fight a bunch of tomato cans.
Because John Fury was never anywhere close to the level
of fighter that Lennox Lewis was. And he's doing this
whole thing like I'm not scared of anyone, all right,
that's fine, But what are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Fight Carl Frotch while he's working for Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
People seem to think that when you go to these
events it's an excuse to like scrap out your issues.
I've even had this set about me, like why didn't
you pull up on Logan Paul when he was at
the event you worked for, Jake Paul, Like, because we're
there to do a job.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And I don't think that Netflix, or my case.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The oone, really gave a if I had a personal
issue with somebody while I'm on their company time.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Same with Carl Frouch here.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like he's he's doing work for Netflix on the stage,
he's got the the Netflix mic in hand.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
He's, you know, there to to.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Report on the Tyson Fury fight, and instead of doing
that job, John Fury would like for him to come
down there and scrap him. I guess, which is stupid
at obviously, but it's John Fury.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
So what do we.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I was gonna away from him, he said, that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay, so there was a point in time where Lennox
was gonna absolutely l spak o John Fury. Also, I
love the fact that, like he's talking to Linux like that,
not that he's you know, being super disrespectful, but he's
kind of like, yeah, Lenox, I was about to give
it to you, or I was gonna step up to
you when Lenox is his legacy is better than anything
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John or what John's going to refer to is his
creation of Tyson Fury and how John is the only
reason for anybody being there. Lennox Lewis has a better
legacy than Tyson Fury does. I'm sorry, it's just true.
With that being said, he was already an all time
great before Tyson ever put on boxing gloves. So don't
know where John gets off talking to Lennox Lewis that way.
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But okay, he says, get Carl Frontier.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
He's he's on the stage. He's on the same stage that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
John just looked up and had a full conversation. Meanwhile,
he's acting like he doesn't see Carl. It's so weird.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Anyone else that wants it, Pitchyl, He's.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Just standing there. Carl's just smiling laughing about it. Because
what else are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Like what is Carl gonna throw down the mic and
actually go and John Fury up? Because he would was
not begin of his day, and Carl Frotch would absolutely
if they had a little scrap right there, would stick
it on John Fiery.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Like we know this.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
If John Fury really wanted to like do something, he
wouldn't come and announce it in this big, grandiose way.
He would have walked up on Carl Frotch one on
one after he was done presenting whatever and stuck it
on him that way. That's how you know that John Fury,
as much as he wants to say he'll do it,
he'll this, He'll that, he didn't want no part of
actually going and scrapping Carl Frotch. If he really thought
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all those things and he thought he would sack him up,
he would have waited till Carl was done. And by
the way, Carl was not on stage when they brought
Tyson up to do his interview, because I assume there's
some conflict there, so he could have done it.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Then.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
He could have done it at any point during the day,
but he chose the point where Carl has obligations to
act like a lunatic, because that's what's of course going
to make it look like John had any I don't
know standing to say any of that. This is when
Gareth A. Davies rolls up to the event and John
is going off on a tirade.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Let's watch this. Are you upsett and shady?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Are you upsetting?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What I love is that all the Fury kids just
have to kind of deal with it and listen. I
understand when my dad feels like he needs to have
an outburst, or when he's in need to show someone
he's in control of the room, of the situation, whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He kind of does this.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now, granted he's not John Fury, but having that personality trade,
I'm sure a lot of people can identify with their dads.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We're sons.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You don't want to disrespect your dad, right, and you
don't want to step on his toes because he still
has to feel like dad. So you just kind of
have to sit back there and just wait for him
to get done. And you're all right, all right, let's
get out of here. Bob's all right, you kind of done.
Tyson just seems like he's let the freaking leash off
John Fury and let him do whatever. In Rome, however,
Tommy looks like he's ashamed every time John does this
kind of ship. But I understand the feeling because they're
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all kind of just like, oh.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
My god, fucking male pulls him a fucking mail.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He keeps car himself the ultimate Mail, puts some respect
on his knee.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
John can talk about the day night in the video.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm a coward designed my card.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm fucking that rung like a dog. I will fight.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I'll drop for fucking ap me. I'm going to fuck
any place any time anyway for nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So yeah, he's clearly upset that Carl Frch called him
a coward, But again, he's not gonna fight Carl. He's
not if he wanted to fight Carl. He could have
found him and scrapped it out and uh done it
before Carl ever got on stage.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But it is hilarious.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
So someone's upset John quite seriously there. You know, I'm
being told it might be Carl Froch froches here.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Maybe it's the calm almost PBS like delivery there from
Gail cared bial.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Someone's upset John Fury.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
John doesn't hold back on these occasions, very passionate around
when his sons are fighting. He's always very very passionate.
I wonder if I can get a word with him.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's one that's.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Right.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
We get very passionate on these occasions.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Don't people talking about me come to the fuck about it?
Shout out down man.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm certain in that middle seat me, not some freak
gold digger.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What I should be. I don't know who he's talking.
I assume he's talking to Carl Fridge. I'm not sure
he said I should be in the middle spot, not
some freak gold digger talking about the presentation team. And
John needs to rightfully have that spot for reasons we
don't know. I knows how.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
He's bullets seated be for golf for these gold diggers.
These bullets treated millions for these gold diggers.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Treat me with some fucking respect.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No mine, fucking tower shit down here.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He's talking about Carl Frodge dude, a multiple times super
middleweight champion of the world, and John has like, put
some respect on my name.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's about me.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I created all this. I'm the alpha male, the ultimate male.
And listen, does John have a point that without him
that Tyson Fury is not alive and therefore they're not
at this press conference and Tyson doesn't fight, so people
can't comment, sure, I guess, but there was always gonna
be other fighters that we were gonna comment on that
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we were going to make press conferences for that were
gonna be on Netflix. Tyson's not the first fighter on Netflix.
We've already seen Terrence Crawford, Canelo, Jake, Paul, Mike, Tyson,
I man As, Ronal, Kay Taylor, Anthony Joshua another UK
heavyweight champion that did it first. Now again, is Tyson
a massive name? Of course?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is he gonna draw eyeballs that most in boxing won't?
For sure? Is John Fury a character and captivating in
his own way?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But what the kind of main character syndrome. Does John
Fury hold that. He's like, this is all me, Netflix me.
He's pointing down there, and Lennox Lewis is on that
freaking panel.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Dude, come on, treat me some fucking respect. No, mine,
fucking shower shit down here. I made all this.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Here's the statements here. It is what I just spoking
my books.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh my god, he's saying his life story doesn't sound
as cool when it's when it's put that way.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Like your biggest accomplishment is blowing a load. Great show
you twiny violence.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
He is imprison and being a pull vice you think meso.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Never Coy's in here bother me.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But when I meet you, it's a different manta.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
When looking at them, Jo almost Captain.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Almost captain insanoed himself, Dude, that might be the thumbnails.
That's where he knows these most effective people's eyes up.
Dude is ripping eyeballs out of skulls.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Before we move into the actual fight, Carl Frotch responded
to John Fury, this is what he had to say
again on Frosh on Fighting his channel. Very smart move.
It's banging views right now. Here's a response I'm.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Still there about a lot on air, and I'm thinking, oh,
please go away, just like pipe down and leave us alone,
because you're not gonna do anything. You'd been downstairs, you
know exactly where I was. I didn't run anywhere. Run
like a bitch, he said, this is.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So they before they even went on air, John Fury,
I guess, had seen Carl Frois and didn't do anything, which,
again is it puts this whole like I'm the ultimate
mail Carl Frost run like a bitch. That's not anywhere
near what reality is. And if John really wanted to
have it out, he could have found Carl before they
went on air, before he got on the stage, after
he got on the stage, while they were walking out,
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at any point and quietly done this. But make it
a big spectacle means you don't want to fight.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
I didn't have nowhere to run, squeaky voice, you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Where I was.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
He didn't come anywhere near me. You just talk to
good empty vessels, make the most noise. He's got no
intentions of having a fight. If he wants to have
a fight, let's put it out here now. I've would
have mum's Taylor. Let's get on misfits because that's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh okay, we're setting up a misfits fight.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Carl John. John will never do that. John would absolutely
not do that, no way, shape or form, unless he.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Got paid some insane number.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Or he'll ask for some insane number, which is like,
in no way, shape or form what he's worth, and
he'll price himself out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But Carl Friedwood stretch.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Him misfits in it. That's what this is. Big jump
fuel in a fighting man. Put some respects on your name.
Put some respects on your own name. Grow a set
of ackers. You said, you know what you're afraid of.
No man, book, God and me and you can do it.
We can do it. And I'll be honest. I'll take
my time with you. I'll pep you off a couple
of jabs. I'll leave you with a couple of writings
to the body, and when you fall on the floor,
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I'll help you up because that's what happened. Embarrassing. You've
just embarrassed yourself there and you'll embarrass yourself again. You
need to stop doing it, Tyson. Fury doesn't need you
in your big gob Shine now running around shouting and swearing,
being a idiot in public. It is a complete embarrassment.
Please stop it unless you're gonna do something about it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, listen, I don't want John Fury to stop
it because while yes, it's embarrassing for him and he
makes a fool of himself so much, it does create attention.
It creates buzz. You can't deny that, right. You cannot
deny that John Fury when he's acting an absolute fool,
is entertaining.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But it doesn't matter because at the end of the day,
we're gonna watch Tyson Fury anyway. It's just John promoting
fights the way John does and be in a psycho.
And here's Joe Egan who has been calling for a
fight with John Fury on Misfits. This is a former legendary,
former spar partner with Mike Tyson, and uh, him and
Joe excuse me, Him and John have gotten beef from
way back, it seems like, and John he's the one
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man that John don't.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Want to usually respond to. But let's hear Joe Egan.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
Hey, Joe Fury, So yeah, condo that choice's press cone
for yesterday.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Don't here the Alkshiman fucking male, Thelma, fucking male.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You never fuck with this guy. I recket.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
You have no shame quoting Yourselfhie. Ultimately Mail, what should
he care? Told the lips and broke.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's actually I was trying to figure out where i'd
heard that. That is Thunderlips. That's Old Cogan in the
Rocky three movie. That's so funny.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
In the first Favor, the Ultimate Mail, I'll grow your
blonde locks, John when we meet, whether it.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Be in a box of ring or on the cobbles.
I'm gonna put manners on you when they eat you
with my right hand jump for everyone. Be counted one two, three, four,
I will put you asleep. Good, I'm proper.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
John.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
Be counted Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh my goodness, Joe, someone grab the fire extinguisher. He's
spinning heat.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I've never heard anyone say that as much boxing trash
talk as I've ever heard. I've never heard anyone say
I'm gonna put you to sleep so proper.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The ref won't.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Count one two three, He'll count Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. That's insane, Okay, Joe.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
I'm gonna give the world.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Put a rest from your melt job, because that's what
you are, is a milk piece. Okay, Now listen, when
you look into my eyes on the day with me, John,
I will see fear in your eyes. You won't see
fear in my eyes because you spelled the word fear
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forget everything and wrong. See me, I spelled the word fear,
face everything, and rise and I will rise.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh my, who's writing for this man?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Who's this ghost writer? There's no way this is off
the top of the dome. Son, you bully?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You have the friend jo.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
Right, it's coming, job.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I ain't read to Steve Man it's coming. What the fun?
I didn't even see that. That's bullshit? All right, there's
Joe Egan.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Uh, And so Carl Fritch and Joe Egan are essentially
being like, all right, John, you want that smoke? Here
it is and pure deform. Here is John Fury's response
to both of them. At one time, he's on a RUNI.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He's getting ready for his fight. Maybe listen, maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm counting out John Fury, and I shouldn't count on
the fighting Fury name. Maybe I shouldn't because here he
is on his run, ready to go and addresses them both.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's staller pretender's out there. They wearing frocks. I knew
the fucking juice had time run. Note for your boys,
I'm gonna bump into you. I'm gonna do here's a statement.
I'm gonna do the tour on the same night. You
can do me. You two shithouses can try and to me,
you can do me.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Hey, hold on to me, boys, to me, Come on, John,
I'll batch this to huh.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm telling you now, it's like your fucking parol boy.
It's not your fucking peril. And if I've gonna go
back to jails for you two sit houses, you fucking
for Gazy's fakes, I don't mind doing it. Don't believe me.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Look here he's spitting. He's spitting while he's running.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Running training twenty stone nine pound. I'll fucking chew yours
up and smits out. There's men taking juice to be
is because the John Fury, I seat bechsteak and stew
and eat worms eat worms for breakfast like you.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The worm frocks who shot yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's spit on his lists and II worms like you
for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay, John, I.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Want to say, no, you for gazy, you pussy, I'll
fix you. Want to see your mate, I'll got.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He spit on the camera.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Into oblivion, and your fat, fucking ugly mate with you
your camera to Joe Eagan, Poe, Hey, I'll fix you too, mate.
Times run out for yours.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
There you go, man, Times up. I've been said I
want to see John Fury and Joe Egan fight. I've
been said it because let's be honest, if John Fury
really wanted it with Carl Frotz, he would have stuck
it on him at the freaking presser.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He would have stuck it on him. He had every
opportunity to it. He didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
No matter how much he spits and snarls and goes
for runs. He said, he's twenty stone nine pound.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
How much is that? Damn near three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Fuck, he's not lasting more than two minutes in a
ring with I mean they did, won't even go to
two minutes thirty seconds with Carl Fronch. But him and
Joe Egan, come on, now, I need to see that.
But can we all right, that's out of the way now.
John Fury again just being an absolute psycho car for
the course, but this one was even more hilarious than most.
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We need to talk about the actual fight though, Tyson
Fury taken on our slam Beck Macmoodoff.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
This is an interesting fight.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Number two ranked Russian got the big win over David
Allen had a tough loss Kybel. Obviously, people are struggling
with kabe Al. He might be, you know, a world
champion at some point in the very near future. But
this is Tyson Fury taking a I don't want to
say tune up fight, but kind of do you want
to say tune up fight before he comes back to
an even bigger fight, right? We have potentially depending on
what goes on with Anthony joshuas you know, mental and
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is he still wanting to commit to boxing as a whole.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We'll see, but that fights out there. I don't really
want to.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
See Usik versus Tyson Fury three, but I don't see
why else Tyson will be coming back to the sport
after retiring for five or six times. But listen, you
don't have to ask me. Let's talk to Tyson himself
and see why he's come back to boxing.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Why have you decided to come back and was there
a catalyst.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Was there one moment where you thought, do.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I've still got it?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I came back for one reason only, and that's to
make boxing great again. Since I retired for the fifth
time over a year ago, boxing for me has gone
on a downward slope. It's become quite boring. And boxing
is at its maximum potential when Tyson Fury is actively fighting.
And I didn't say that, and Ai the cleverestday ion
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I have said that chat GVT so.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
That ChiPT Tyson The boxing's at its best when he's
in it, and I agree. I'll be honest, it's not
that boxing, in my opinion, has been boring at all.
We've had some fantastic fights over the last year, but
it doesn't hurt when the personality, the skill.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The the aura, the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Intangibles of Tyson Fury is in boxing. He's one of
the biggest stars in the sport. It's just like saying, yeah,
when Canelo fights, boxing is big time. Same with Tyson Fury.
Of course, He's right, boxing is better when he is
in the sport. Now again, I don't know that boxing
needs Tyson Fury more than Tyson Fury needs boxing, but
that's a different conversation. He's right, though, it's clearly better
when he's a part of boxing.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I'm looking forward to the event.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'm looking forward to coming here, putting on a burial
show up Tottenham, and most of all, I'm looking forward
to punching his face right in to be fat.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's been a while on a mistic what better think
of what I was like? All right, whatever, dude, my.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Mom too the old man's facing and get paid a
lot of money to do it. I missed it a lot.
And now we've got big Mattmdov over there. I'm going
to write him straight off completely. I'm gonna make his
face look like a butcher's block after our four ROMs,
and I suppose the biggest turning point in this come
back for me was a tragedy that happened with Antony Joshua.
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I was on holiday with my family in Thailand for Christmas,
just to get away from the rain, sick of the rain.
It was depressing me. And then I hear all lot
bad news that's gone on, and I thought, you know what,
life is very very short and very precious and very fragile,
and anything could happen at any given moment, and you
should never never put things off until tomorrow or next
year or next week, because tomorrow is not promised to nobody.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The Bible says, tomorrow is not a gift.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Tomorrow ain't promised.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
A man love that message.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And you know, as much as there's a rivalry between
Tyson and Anthony Joshua, I love to see him drop
the act a little bit. And really he kind of
did this with Danty Wilder as well, talking about you
know how Danta's probably got some unresolved issues that he's
going through over that ice and fight, and Tyson kind
of has the same thing going on with Uzik. We'll
get to that in a second, but here he was
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talking about the Anthony Joshua situation and you know, the
tragic loss of life obviously that Anthony, you know, in
that Corecress, he lost his two best friends in Africa,
and here was Tyson talking about it.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Boxing rivalry is one thing, but humanity, human life is another.
In this comeback tour, I haven't mentioned AJ one time.
I only wished him all the best. I wasn't there.
I don't know exactly what's gone on, but what I've
heard and what I've seen. It's been catastrophic and eventful
to say the least. So if the Lad wants to
come back boxing, fantastic for him. And if he doesn't,
he's done, marvelous. Congratulations. But yeah, I've got nowhere no
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mause feelings towards the Lad. Never, I've never will do.
It's sports one thing, but when within things like that happen,
it could have been me, It could have been New,
it could have been Frank, could have been any of
us in that car. And God has a plan for everybody.
So whatever his journey is is his own business.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And this is the stuff that made you.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean, granted I wasn't there in the UK on
the rise of Tyson Fury, but this is what I
assume made you fall in love with him, This is
what made you want to watch him is he was
an earnest guy. He was a guy that when he
spoke it it felt like he meant it right. When
he spoke, it felt like.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
This was a genuine dude. He was a little bit
off kilter for sure, but you could trust him.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
And now that Tyson has gotten, you know, further along
into his career and there's been you know, I don't
know the idea that Tyson is being cheated by the
sport and the Yusik fights again kind of mirroring what
Deontay Wilder says against him, and kind of the delusion
around those fights, and maybe some other things as well,
like when you criticize him and the media criticize him,
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then they're automatically labeled haters and all this stuff. That
kind of stuff turns you off to Tyson fury, but
moments like that really bring it back around. But here
he was continuing to talk about this fight and just
again what his mindset is after the two Usik fights.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I can't help somebody else's opinion from ringsides.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know him, my ha.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
I won them fights. Yeah, when you're a mom and
you fighting over mom, if you lose, you know you lose.
I's on fat fight.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Listen, he's got he did win, he's got his decisions.
He won him fat flight.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
I kissed him on the head, come gaunt, lighting him
fat fight. But he knows and I know he didn't
beat me. So by the end of the day is
what it is. He gets his decisions. Fantastic, He's won
the fight. I've got ja big death. He lost his
on me rec cold for guts what I'm the one
who brings it netflix to boxin and he's one who's
out in the cold kind and say he's wanting it.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
He's out in the cold.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's he beats you in the first fight, beat you
worse in the second fight, almost knocked Tyson out in
the first fight, made a shit ton of money doing it.
But now he's out in the cold. See this is
the stuff I say that about Tyson. And then we
come right back to this first off, he says, I
know I won those two fights. He can look at
me and not know that he won, but I won,
even though the judges didn't feel that way. He lost
a very close fight the first time around. I thought
he was winning the fight up until he got his
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ship rocked late in the fight and Usik took back over.
The second fight was a good back and forth, but
Usak took over and carried that momentum and took that
fight even more clearly unanimously. So Tyson has deluded himself
into thinking he won both fights, not one, both of them.
Is the same thing that we say about Deontay Wilder
and his delusions over Tyson cheating and the gloves and
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the you know, the water being spiked, and the manipulation
of his walkout suit and the trainer's not doing this
is the non acceptance that leads you down a dark path. Now,
if Tyson Fury is using that as motivation, fine, Deontay
Wilder used it in the third fight, still lost, but
put up a good fight versus Tyson Fury, and maybe
he uses it in motivation today. But he was the
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guy just a couple of days ago that was saying,
if Deontay Wilder can't let go of that loss, then
he's never gonna move on from it. If Tyson Fury
can't let go of those losses, he's never gonna be
able to move on from it, the same way he
told Deontay Wilder he's never gonna be able to I
don't know if it means he's never gonna be able
to be usick if they fought for a third time,
or that he's going to stay around in boxing for
too long, or that he's just gonna have.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This deep seated like pole in.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
His psyche that he just can't let go of because
he thinks, for some reason that he won those two
fights again, you can maybe argue the first fight the
second one, I don't know how you can. But then
he says that he's coming back for that trilogy, that
Usik needs him, and I don't necessarily disagree that Usik
would probably want to fight Tyson Fury on Netflix before
he'd want to fight Babbi Awardly, clearly, Kaveel, Moses Atalma,
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you know, any of the guys that are that next
crop of heavyweights creeping up and starting to take over.
At thirty eight years old, Lusik probably wants one or
two more fights than he's out of the sport. So
I don't think even a Daniel Dubois trilogy like the
Tyson Fury trilogy would would probably make a lot more
sense for Usik for sure, as much as I don't
know if I even want to see it, because what
else can Tyson really do to change the trajectory of
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that fight. You lose the first one, you lose the
second one worse, I don't know. And then you know,
when you pair that with Tyson's kind of idea about
where he stands in this equation between him and Usik, like, ah,
he needs me, there's a level of delusion here that
does kind of make you worry about this comeback for Tyson, like.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Are you doing this for the right reasons?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And even if you are coming back, do you truly
have the right focus in mindset, because here he is
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Again.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Listen, at the end of the year, he'll begging me
for a third fight. He's not me wanting to fight
with him, He'll begging me to do a fight with him.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, it's clearly not you coming back to boxing because
you can't let go of those two losses that Usik
hits you with, Like Tyson took a long break because
I think it really is messing with I think it is.
I think it's messing with his head that he's not
the greatest of this generation. And he really thought he
was both undefeated coming in I mean the tie with Wilder,
but both him and Usik coming in undefeated in that
first fight, and he loses, thinks I was close to the
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first one. I'll get him in the second, loses worse.
It's messed with him. And again, there's nothing wrong with that,
because Usik's the best of this generation, in one of
the all time great you could argue maybe the greatest,
but that'll stir up a bunch of shit in the comment.
But Tyson thought that was him and it's hard for
him to let go of it. I understand it. But
this idea he's going to be begging Tyson for a
third fight again. Maybe Usik does fight him for the
third one because shit ton of money on the line.
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Already beat the guy twice, Maybe some difficult, more difficult
matchups with power punchers, with these younger guys coming up,
or you know, more athleticism, speed, whatever. Starty got the
game plan to beat Tyson?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Did it twice?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Begging me? You watch you had ear first?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
What makes you think he'll be begging you money.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I'm the cash cow, top of the tree with the
biggest broadcast on behind me, not only for boxing, reality TV,
I'm documentaries. I'm that golden child. Where else is he
gonna go? Who's he gonna fight? Fight hard people for
no money? That sounds really really clever to do. Listen.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't disagree with him, as much as I don't
know if I want to. I don't want to go
down that path again. You know we've seen it twice.
I don't disagree that that matchup probably makes the most
sense for Usik himself, specifically, because a lot of money for.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
A guy you've beat twice.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Now Here is another thing that's kind of throwing me
off about Tyson Fury coming back, and again I'm just
wondering where his mindset is. He's talking a lot about
Usik in the third fight and kind of you know, again,
mac Mudov's a big puncher. He's twenty one and two
with nineteen knockouts. Tyson Fury damn near got beat by
Francis and Guan who in his first boxing match. Do
not forget that, and that was just a power puncher
(31:06):
standing in front of Tyson Fury and yeah, okay, Fury
didn't train whatever, It's the same situation, overlooking the guy
in front of you to potentially get ready for the
guy after you, and it was Oosik at that point
as well. What you can't do is overlook a guy
that not only isn't in his first boxing match, but
is a nasty puncher at heavyweight as the number two
ranked guy in the world. Here is Tyson talking about
(31:26):
how he has no trainer coming into this fight.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Just a word as well on the training team in
terms of who will be in your corner.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Come fight night, your dad is going to be around
and he's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But they just say on the top two you might
be adding to your team. Can he give any more
insight into that? I'm like club a Lang, I'm going
to train alone, train alone for this one. And that
is the plan. Train alone. Boy, He's been through it
so many times. He knows what to do.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
Is that how you feel?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I know I know how to do it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I know I have to go twelve rounds. I know
I have to fush myself when I need to. I
don't know how to take a rest one I need too.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That just don't sound great, y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
So no sugar Hill Steward in the corner, And yeah,
does Tyson have all the teachings that he learned under
sugar Hill, that he's learned in previous camps, that he's
learned in.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
His entire career. Sure? Does he know how to fight? Yeah?
Is he going to change his style?
Speaker 7 (32:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Is he gonna be much different than the Tyson we've
ever seen?
Speaker 9 (32:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But what about motivation and camp adjustments in camp specific
fight preps adjustments in the fight One of the biggest issues.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It felt like throughout.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
These last couple of fights for Tyson Fury was the
mismanagement in the fight, the lack of understanding for fight
strategy and adjustments during the fight. You had sugar Hill
and yelling instructions at Tyson, and then you also had
Big John Fury yelling instructions the wrong instructions at Tyson
for most of both of those fights, and it's like
(32:44):
you do have a bit of a conflicting voice. And
maybe Tyson thinks that John is the right guy to
have and that they've been on this journey together for forever,
but I disagree. I think John as his cornerman is
a terrible move. And again, the structure around camp and
all of that that comes with having a coach that
has experienced like a sugar Hill, I don't know if
that's the right choice to just kind of wing it,
And you know, I don't have a coach. I don't
(33:05):
We're just going to figure it out. Tyson knows better
than I do. Thirty seven years old, been in the game,
been a world champion, been one of the greats of
this generation. OPA works out for him. But again, when
you hear all that combined, you start to wonder Is
this the right idea for Tyson Fury? Love that he's back,
Love that a circus show is back with John Fury.
As much as it's it is embarrassing for John, it
is content and it is hilarious for the rest of us.
(33:29):
But that's all I got for this one man. You guys,
let me know. What I'm finding out here from Tyson
and John is that they have some deep seated issues
that they can't let go of. For John Fury, he's
got this idealism of himself as the ultimate male and
anyone that talks shit has got to get sparked out,
even though he's never going to do that. And Tyson
Fury has a real hard time letting go of those
USIK fights. How does that affect him mentally? Even if
(33:51):
he gets to the third USIK fight, what's going to
be different. He's told Deontay Wilder that he needs to
let go of all these delusions of grandeur about cheating.
Tyson Fury needs to do the same. Otherwise the third fight,
if it ever happens, is gonna go the same way,
maybe even worse. But listen, I don't know we're getting
this fight on April eleventh, on Netflix, Syson Fury, urslan
Bec Macmoudoff. Do not miss it and make sure you
(34:13):
guys tune in This Saturday, myself Shobiz live from Las Vegas.
Our watch party for Ryan Garcia, Mario Borrios, The WBC Belt.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Is on the line.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's gonna be a great night in Vegas. I want
to see you guys there. What happens this Saturday. What
happens with Tyson Fury. I don't have those answers, but
I guess we'll find out
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