THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - KSI BOXING RETURN, LOGAN PAUL VS THE NFL AND UFC'S BIG PROBLEM... - The W.A.D.E. Concept with Wade Plemons

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we are back on the way concept
presented by the Ring magazine and today, folks, it may
not be over yet.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
In fact, it's not over yet.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
In the wide words of one battatunde Ksi, JJ William
olag day Olatunji, I think I said his name wrong,
but tas I may not actually be retired from boxing,
and we're gonna get into it.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
We're also going to take a look.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Today at Misfits Dual number two this Saturday, Tim Mitchell
gab Rosato, I'll be there in Darby, in Ti Mitchell's backyard.
It's a loaded card. I want to go through it all.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I just want to feel.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
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Misfits show. I'm sure I'll talk to JJ there and
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this video. Now let's get back into the breakdown. So,
like I said Ksiksi the Nightmare Big twenty twenty six,
I did not think I'd be talking about Ksi Box.
I truly thought it was over right. Even if he
has the song, it's not I thought it was because
he is recommitted to his YouTube. He has really committed

(03:11):
to the Sidemen, and I see that happening for the
foreseeable future, regardless of what he says.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
In this interview.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
But there is a glip out there from an iHeartRadio
interview yesterday where KSI talks about his quote unquote retirement
from boxing. It's a very short statement here, but I
think it's an important one. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
What about can I she wants any more pass anymore boxing?
You said you were retiring.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Retired, but I'm definitely on a break. Why is that
I'm focusing on just YouTube and I'm making YouTube content. Yeah,
I've been going. I'm literally like I filmed almost every day,
just different video ideas, different formats, different things, just to
try and improve the YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, where'd you get the kind of inspiration?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
What kind of so you hear it there?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
He didn't retired. Now, Granted, could I be reaching like
Stretch Armstrong? Could I be reaching further than my neck
reaches on a daily basis because my shoulders are underdeveloped?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
But I also think that Kasai is a very addictive personality, right,
You even hear him talking about the YouTube. They're like, yeah,
I'm filming every day.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'm recommitted to the YouTube.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
All it would take, and I think all it does
take for KSI is to scratch the itch of what
if I came back. Reminder, he is thirty two years old,
so the time is shrinking rapidly. And yes, it would
have to be the right opponent. Yes, it'd have to
be the biggest name. It'd have to be a Jake Paul,
It'd have to be a Conmorra Gregor, it'd have to
be a Tommy Fury rematch, whatever I mean, Jake Paul's
probably the option, the only option at this point, but

(04:41):
with Jake losing to Anthony Joshua, with no real plans
for Jake Paul as of right now for twenty twenty six,
I know and the Kisa Baderia is saying he will
fight in twenty twenty six, but we haven't heard a name.
Rumors of Tommy Fury, but we haven't heard. This is
a bit of a positive update if you're a big
fan of watching Ksi fight now again, the addictive personality
would mean he needs to be entrenched into the sport.

(05:04):
It would mean his YouTube content would be cut down,
it would mean he'd take more time away from the
Sidemen videos, or he'd try to do it all and
burn himself out again. But I think this leaves the
door open. I wasn't convinced. I thought the door was
slam shut, locked and the key thrown away. I'll be honest.
I did not think the KSI would ever box again
him though, again, it's just one statement. I could be

(05:24):
overlooking the severity of it or the lack of context
in it. But he's you know, he's not retired, he's
taking a break. How long will that break be? The
last time he took a break was three years. The
last fight from KSI will be three years in October.
So if he ends twenty twenty six without a fight,
I would say twenty twenty seven, he'll come back. That's
my prediction right now, is that he's going to take
the rest of the year off, come back in twenty

(05:46):
twenty seven and do it one more time, either that
or end of the year this year for the Big
Misfits send off card. That's that's what I am predicting
right now. Now, again, who is that going to be?
How did line up with the Jake Paul fight. That's
the one we all want to see. I think that's
the only one that really makes sense for him to
come back for. If I'm just being totally honest, like
what else is worth getting? I mean, okay, yeah, Connor McGregor,

(06:07):
but under UFC contract doesn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Don't know how it would.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Work right outside of that, I just I don't see
why he'd come back. I don't see the point in
even talking about not being retired. If I was him
there and I had truly no plans to coming back,
I'd just be like, yeah, it's over with. You know,
I gave it my shot. I had a good run,
you know, three four year run there and that was it.
But there's still something left. You can hear it in
his voice, just you know, I'm not retired taking a break.

(06:33):
You can hear that he has unfinished business. If he's
going to do it thirty two years old, only getting older,
I'd say sooner than later, twenty twenty seven or the
end of twenty twenty six, mark my words.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's my prediction.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
If and when KSI comes back, Because again, a break
means it's not goodbye.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
It's just see you later.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
For everybody that does want to see KSI fight at
least one more time. I'd say my optimism level, my
confidence level was that about zero, maybe one or two
percent before I'm like a twenty five percent here, and
that kind of juiced me up a little because I
just do think there is a little bit of unfinished
business with him and Jake Paul. So it's not over
yet apparently for KSI, which is good to hear, because

(07:13):
I want to see the guy try it one more time.
I want to see, of course, like all of us do,
the KSI and Jake Paul fight. That just makes the
most sense in the world to me and I think
to everybody else. But speaking of KSI and speaking of misfits, folks,
we have a Misfits card this Saturday that I think
we just need to do a quick breakdown on because
I'm not really seeing a lot of breakdowns on this card,

(07:35):
and since I'm working it, I feel it's not only
my obligation but my duty to tell you guys. Yes
I said duty, are you kiddos, get your mind out
of the gutter. I think we should talk about it.
So here it is Misfits Dual two and the headliner,
Tom Mitchell taking on Gabrosato Son. This is a banger
of a fight, and we're gonna get to that. But
let's talk about every fight on the card. It is

(07:58):
only a one, two, three, four, five six fight at
least on paper card. That could change, there could be more,
uh more fights added here, but you know, a short
enough card, but one that's got some pretty heavy action
to it and some good matchups you got. If you
guys don't remember Jake Cornish versus Will Anderson, Jake fought
uh Mike Edwards, Let's see if I can find that. Yeah,

(08:19):
Mike Edwards. I don't see any highlights from that fight,
but Mike Edwards won. I don't remember it being a
very you know, memorable fight, to be fair, but it
was an interesting fight. I don't like I said, I
don't really particularly remember the fight, I'll be honest. But
he's coming off a loss. And then on the other
side you have Will Anderson, who got beat by another
guy on this card, Jordan Banjo, in a fight that

(08:40):
was a bit sloppy, uh for two heavyweights, you know,
a bit of a I mean, I can't say anything
I was gassed as after three rounds of my fight too,
but it was a bit sloppy and Jordan ended up
stopping him, if you could say, a controversial stoppage, but
Jordan was pretty much dominating the fight. Here's a couple
of the highlights here, Like it wasn't it wasn't terrible.
But in round one you this, they were gonna gas so.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Quickly because they were throwing heat. I mean, especially Will
was throwing some major heat and it was a lot
of clenching and a lot of like falling in.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Behind the shots and expected I want to see I'm
very excited to see Jordan again because he was putting
some work on him too, measuring with the.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Jablan feeling the fire.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
And Will was throwing just haymakers, no jab, no setup,
just big shots, clubbing blows and just trying to walk
through Pinty like this crazy swinging right now and gassed already.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
We're in round two. I back to Jordan though, that
jab right hand behind it four feet, So.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I expect about six minutes of fury from these two.
I expect absolute hell for about two and a half
to three minutes, maybe even four or five.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
But after we get.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Past the second round, if no one's knocked out, it's
gonna be I think probably a very sluggish and sloppy fight.
But both guys look like they're ready to go, So
this is a good matchup. Dude's coming off both guys
coming off a loss. Both guys look like they're in shape.
Obviously will throw some big time power. Mike said Jake
was pretty tough, so we'll see. Then you have Jay
Jones and Egypt Chris. Now I don't know who she is.

(10:14):
I'm assuming that I'm not to find out though, because
I don't even know if I could show that. But
she was apparently supposed to fight Christian Rock, who is
Blueface's baby mama.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And that's really it.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I don't know anything other than that Egypt Chris and
her husband are furious as Christian Duck the Fade growing
up hip hop star.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, I don't know anything about this lady.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't know if she has any boxing matches, but
the fact that she was gonna fight Christian Rock, I'm
I think that's enough to tell me she's gonna at
least try and swing for the bleachers. Here here's Duck
in the Fade. Oh, jeez, how's this gonna go?

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Egypt, Chris considers boxing Krishan Rock for her first professional belt.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
What's Someboddy, y'all? I'm here making this video because I
heard that Christian Rock.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Is Oh no, why are your pants on?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
But exciting for X Rumble and it's looking for an
opponent and so that Jesus would give her over the opponent.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh she's got guns.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
When it's time. Well, I'm also a child of God,
and I believe that I am that opponent that's more
than worthy enough to step in the ring with you.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
She says, she's also a child of God. Is that
a bomb vacuum? All the liquored up? Not saying you
can't do both, but.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Like being that we're both from the background of reality TV,
and you're very well known in the hip hop industry,
it just so happens to be that.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
I be sure to like, comment and subscribe in the Princess.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Of hip Hop.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
I have yet to make my debut because people have
been duck in the fame with me. But you are
a known baddie, right, so I feel like that shouldn't
be a problem with you. I say, step in the
ring and we display what we got. Being that this
is boxing, it takes a lot of determination, discipline, heart
and high IQ. So I say, let's see who's the
better fit to win that vacated extra championship belt and

(12:02):
see what we got. I feel you, and I feel
like it would be a great matchup.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I feel you.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
You just let me know and I'll be waiting to
hear back from you. Let's get it, chuck it out.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Okay, she keeps winking at the camera. I don't know
anything about None of.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
That is in the building. So stay tuned, y'all. It's
coming real soon. You misfits for everything, and I can't
wait to fight for y'all.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
So this is apparently I didn't know this, but apparently
she is Hepa from Salt and Pepper's daughter, or it's
actually Salt's daughter.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't know what's happening, Christian Rock cool your contents
say Salt, But that's Peppa sitting on the couch supporting
her daughter.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So, Okay, she is fighting Jay Jones, who is an
Olympic champion in Taekwon do so jumping sidekicks. Hold that
so she's got combat sport experience. I'm not gonna yeah,
I probably should turn that off. She's got combat sport experience.
Definitely a good athlete. Yeah, okay, can we see some
hands though, you know, here we go, I gotta see

(13:00):
some hands. Oh shit, Okay, yeah, okay, uh, I'm not
a big fan of that uppercut.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Now she's south paw. Now, all of a sudden, she's
south paw.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, all right, let's keep our hands a little higher though. Okay, yeah,
we might have a problem here. This girl's got some
nasty hands. A little bit unorthodox, but she got some
nasty hands. One to one uppercuts okay, ah, touch uppy.
Yeah if this was if this was kickboxing, I'd be

(13:39):
I'd be far more worried. I'd be like, yeah, this
ain't gonna sing, gonna go well, but you know it
is just boxing, damn get her leg ups like that.
That's kind of crazy. We got some sparring here. I
know it's it's kicking sparring or is that just still yeah,
still kicking sparring.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So okay, we get to see a little bit there.
Very interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm excited for this, I'll be honest, I don't know
what I'm I don't know what to expect again, first
boxing match for either girl. Yeah, four rounds, two minutes,
so fair play. Then we have Carla Ja Pearl Gonzales,
both ladies obviously coming off the win.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Two champs fighting for the Misfits Women's at middleweight belt.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Carla with the big time win over Taylor Starling in
her last one. That was huge, and she says she's
been on a win streak.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Just boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Had the draw here but still undefeated, undisputed. Pearl Gonzales
on the other hand, coming off the victory versus ty Emery.
Both ladies got a big time decision there. I actually
am very excited for this champ verus champ. We want
to see that. Five rounds, two minutes. We know what
both ladies bring and Carla is very rangy, you know

(14:40):
for her to vision and again she's been in there
with everybody on Misfits now, so I'm excited for this one.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Pearl Gonzales big crowd favorite last time, and they had
the little push and shove in the ring, So this
one's set up. I think fight week's gonna be crazy.
Carla usually takes over fight week when it comes to
these press conferences and stuff, so we'll see how that goes.
Then we have While Lead versus Argentinian King. Very interesting
matchup here. I'm very very excited to see these two

(15:06):
go at it. Argentinian King got a big time win
over not little Craig Ray, smallest partan Jay What am
I talking about?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
And his last one.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
We have Wali, who obviously has kind of made up
and down in the scene, had the loss versus Fox.
This kind of Fox is coming out party here. Big
time win for him, but you know, while he trying
to get back on the horse, this will be an
entertaining fight. Then we have Tempo Arts coming back and
I know these are not you know our influencer names
Frankie Freelove.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
What a name for Tempo. I like it, the alliteration
on it.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Tempo's the man though you know he is undefeated right,
hasn't lost coming back. I thought he had retired as well,
And here he is back on a Misfits card, duel
number two, and he's taken on Jordan Banjo and this
dude is a unit son. He's got to be like
six six two forty has the win over will Anderson,
but he's more than that. He can actually box. He's

(15:54):
got a little bit of talent and skill, you know,
no shade to anybody else, but I would like to
see him in depending on how this goes.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Him and Chase would be.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
A fun matchup as well, right like, look at some
of the I know again he's gassed here, but empty
jab back.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
On the jab, touching him with it, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Rolling with the shot there again it's it's they're both tired,
but still touch them.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
With the jab.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Nation has gone to them a little bit in tons
of fat, in tons uppercut, Get off me.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Round was really fun to the shots right there.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think he's I think he's got some skill for sure.
So uh, you know, we'll see what tempo looks like
coming back to the scene. But very interesting fight. That's
the co main event, and then of course we get
to the main event, and this one is a big
one for the Misfits pro light Heavyweight title. Eight rounds
and one hundred and seventy five pounds for Ty Mitchell

(16:53):
and Gabriel Rosato. If you guys don't know who gab
Rosatto is, you you're living under a rock. Gabe has fallen,
but for multiple world titles, super middleweight world title, middleweight
world titles, and you know, he didn't ever win a
world title. But he's been in the ring with some
of the best of the previous era of boxing and
some of the up and coming era as well.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
He's been in with guys like Triple G. He's been
in with Jay Leon. I think this is the yeah,
this is the fight where Jillian got popped.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
He has been in with Charlow, He's been in with
David Lemieux, been in there with Daniel Jacobs, Jimi Mungia,
Seane Osley Junior, like the Krem Da La Krem of
some of the higher level boxers in this sport, Derek Ennis.
When you look at a guy like Gabrozato, he not
only has a big name.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
He was in the Creed movie.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
We remember that he's fought for multiple world titles, both
of the middleweight and super middleweight division. This will be
at one seventy five, so even a step up from that.
But his record may not look, you know, insane, but
if you've ever watched one of his fights, he comes
to fight, he bites down on that mouthpiece, and yes
there's technique, and yes they're skill. He's been training at

(17:59):
the ald Card Gym with Freddie Roach for you know,
I don't know how long, but a long time in
his career as well. So you're gonna get technique, you're
gonna at skill, but you're also gonna get a war.
And Ty Mitchell now the newest or one of the
newest signees to Misfits Pro. They call him the Darby
Banger because we know why. He's got dynamite in his

(18:20):
left hand from Darby obviously, is why we're having this
fight there. It's in his backyard. Just a massive, massive
win over Sean Hemphill, demolished Idris Virgo, smoked pretty much everybody.
I mean they don't even have it on here, but smoked.
Tommy Hinch as well. Had the big layoff obviously from
this fight years and years ago. But now he's back
and he's trying to make a run here and he
needs to be active, let's be honest, thirty five years old,

(18:42):
it's it's pisser got off the pot time. You know,
Gabe is forty, so it's a different challenge than Seawan Hemphill,
who at the time was you know, number fourteen ranked
in the WBA, had only had two losses coming into
that fight, and one was to William Skull, who had
held the belt. He was the world champ before you know,
the Canelo fight. So this will be a different circumstance though.
This will be a bit more of a bite down

(19:03):
in the mouthpiece war, and I expect fireworks from both guys.
I expect to see, you know, again, we keep talking
about Toy Mitchell taking that next step, starting to climb
the ladder. This is another massive experience fight for him.
It'll be the most experienced guy he's ever fought, right,
Sean Hemphill was nineteen and two. But gabroz Otto again, yeah,
twenty eight and seventeen. But guy's been in there forty

(19:23):
plus times as twenty eight wins to his name, has
been in with the best names in the world and
still has some left. You got to get past him, though,
if you're Tom Mitchell, you have to get past a
guy like gabrie Otto, and honestly, you might need to
look more impressive than you looked against Sean Hemphill, which
early on in that fight, Ty looked very impressive. But
you know, the gas tank kind of got to him late.
Can he change that up? Can he solidify that as

(19:45):
he comes into this one, Because regardless of what you
think of Gabe's record, he's on the two fight win
street right. Yes, I know four losses before that, but
to good fighters, Iima, Mgia, Shaye Mosley Junior, these are
all good fighter So Ty's got his work cut out
for him. He's got to do it in his backyard.
He's going to have a a ton of fans there.
I'm excited for it. Hope you guys are as well.
I will see you as you're seeing this video. It'll

(20:06):
be Monday, so i'll see you later this week. I'll
be there for the press conference. I'll be there for
the Way Ends fight night. I'm gonna be on comms
for you guys, and then we'll come back and we'll
get ready for that Misfits Pro about April fourth in London.
Derek Chazora, Derek war Chazora versus Deontay Wild. There's gonna
be a banger a couple of fights for these next
couple of months and then it's off to the races,

(20:27):
big boxing cards throughout the year.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You guys, let me know, what do you think about
this car? Drop it in the comments.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
What do you think about KSI's soft unretiring right his
walking back the I'm done with boxing to say, well.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm just taking a break from it. Does he mean that?
Was it just a slight comment? Did I take too
much out of it? Probably?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
But if he is coming back, I'm gonna predict it's
at the end of this year. We're in twenty twenty
seven and there's only one, maybe two names. He'd do
it for Jake Paul who currently hasn't had an opponent
lined up. He's got the jaw surgery potentially Econor McGregor
outside of his UFC contract. What do you guys think?
Let me go down below and what happens this Saturday
at Misfits Duel too. I don't have those answers, but

(21:07):
I guess we'll find out. All right, So we are
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and folks. Man down the hatches, strap yourselves in because
we are on a collision course for Ryan Garcia versus
Devin Haney too. The rematch is upon us and it
was one of the biggest fights of the year when
it happened the first time, not only because of what
happened in the ring, not only because of the build

(21:30):
up to what happened in the ring, but because of
the fallout after the fight and the osteen and the
question marks and the scrubbed record and the no contests
and the year suspension.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And all of that, just for these two to win
world championships.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
At welterweight and come back to the doorstep, both of
them knocking on the door saying I'm ready, let's run it.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
And it's not official yet, but.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
We have to talk about why this fight. It could
be the biggest fight in boxing. If not, it's the
biggest fight in American boxing by far. Ryan Garcia, Devin
Haney too. I know I said that I wanted to
see Ryan and Shakur, but this is even bigger.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Why the breakdown? Let's go? All right?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So Ryan Garcia posted this poster yesterday on his Twitter
Garcia Haney too, and all he said was war has
been declared, probably the worst way of phrasing it with
what's happening in the world currently right.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Now, but it's time for the rematch.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
And it's not just him saying it Devin Haney was
on at his own boxing show last night and had
this to say.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's your way champion and a man in demand right
now in that division. But the man you said you
want is Ryan Garcia. Is that the fight that you're
looking for next?

Speaker 9 (22:46):
Yeah, I mean has a storyline, has a bad blood,
it's a unification now and that's a big it's the
biggest fight in boxing. So it's a perfect fight to
be made, and right now is the time.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
What did you think of Ryan's performance?

Speaker 9 (22:58):
I thought Ryan did when he was a post suit,
I big he would do that against Mario Barrios. Riyo
Barrios is Uh, this was that perfect protage for Ryan.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
He thinks to be different with you the second time around.
Definitely appreciate. Definitely there he is. Uh so, yeah, he's right.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And I didn't want to put it out there after
Ryan's win, just because you know, you don't want to
hype yourself up for something and then get let down.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
And that may be what I'm doing right now. This
may not even happen.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
We may get Devin going off and fighting somebody else,
you know, a Crocker or somebody. We may get Ryan
fighting chaquor or who knows who, right, But I.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Don't want that to happen.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I want this to happen, and I don't think we
need to have you know, Ryan Shaquor, and this one
just well, it'll always be there. We've said the same
thing in boxing for years about fights. We want to see, Well,
that doesn't need a bell, it'll always be there. That
that's a that's a big name marquee matchup, it doesn't
need a bell. It'll be there years later, and years
later we get it and it's not the two guys
in their primes, and unfortunately it was it what it

(23:57):
should have been. This all already happened once. Yes, Ryan
purposely missed weight. He was tested positive for PEDS. Regardless
if you think he did it on purpose or not,
that's what happened. He did have PDS in his system.
And he wiped the floor with Devon, I mean completely
beat him up. And Devon had moments in the fight,
but Ryan exposed the chin, he exposed the weakness to

(24:19):
the left hook. He again, he kind of beat him
pillar to post and Ryan didn't look like he was
in the greatest of boxing shape. I know people are like,
look at his a muscles. He was in shape, the
difference between having muscles and being in boxing shape. Look
at him versus Rolli. That's Ryan in boxing shape. Now,
after that, Ryan gets the suspension from the New York
State Athletic Commission. Obviously, the wind becomes a no contest.

(24:41):
Ryan was not even able to win the belt at
forty because he missed weight. But regardless, that's stuck in
our minds, right, It's stuck in our minds that Ryan
Garcia did that to Devin Handy when no one maybe
some people, but not many people thought that was possible,
even though they went three and three in the Amateurs.
Even though Ryan and believed it, most of us didn't,

(25:01):
and he proved a lot of us wrong, at least
in the ring. Now, since then, the Hanes have said, listen,
that's because you were on the sauce and because you
purposely miss wag and we weren't our best that night.
You know, there's been the I want to say excuses,
but kind of the explanations.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
And Ryan lost a role in his return fight and
kind of blew up that rematch that was probably supposed
to happen after that. If Ryan would have got a
hold of the WBA belt. But now that doesn't matter
because both guys are champions unifying on the line, and
they've been going back and forth on Twitter the last
couple of days. It's been pretty crazy. So let's get
into it. We have Ryan first off saying, Hani, if

(25:38):
it's time to end you, it's time you will be erased.
I heard you speak in my name. If this is
what you want, let's start discussions. Mark my words, You'll
never fight again after this, So let that sink in
and accept it before you say yes. Not just hey,
I'm gonna smoke you again. Hey, you're not on my level.

(25:59):
I'm gonna beat you pillow at a post he said,
I'm going to beat you so bad you never fight again.
I'm going to erase you. That's the confidence level Ryan
Garcie is coming in. Is that because of his performance
versus Mario Barrios, or the performance versus Devin Haney, or
just a combination of knowing what he did in the
Haini fight and knowing how much better he's gotten since.
I don't know, but that's what he said. Haini responded with,

(26:20):
let's start our Vona testing. So he can make the
biggest fight in boxing. Now, I don't know of anybody
that starts I mean, Vona testing can be done year round,
but I don't know if anybody that starts testing if
they're not in the pool before a fight gets made,
that's kind of crazy fair play.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Devin seems to be on board.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Ryan then comes with the poster. Then Devin retweets the poster.
So they're working here, right, They're on the same page.
And Cop my man, Cop says mega fight and Ryan says, fans,
if you really want to see this HAINI fight, demand
it with everything. I'll do it next, but I need
the intensity. I mean, listen, we're getting views on these posts,
one hundred kviews, six hundred Kvu's five hundred kviews. Like

(26:59):
people want this fight, no doubt about it, Fight of
the Summer, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
We agree.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Ryan said, start now, no worries. So they're going back
and forth on the VODA stuff. Then Ryan said, Devin
clearly letting the fear get to him. He's delusional. In
what world does he think he has to say? In
his heart he knows he lost that fight because I'm
the better fighter, and he can't get himself to be
truthful to himself about our fight. Probably won't happen because

(27:25):
he's a bitch. There's no other excuse. If you are
so sure you would have won, you should take the fight.
You won't because you're a bit simple. Knocked you down
three times. The next time you get dropped, you'll wake
up connected to an IV and doctor's monitoring you. Damn again,
Ryan is he's going cutthroat here. He's going cutthrow Also,

(27:45):
Ryan said, Heyny doesn't understand he's B side now, just
like when Devin Haney was saying, yeah, let's start VODA testing.
They're not even there's no contract nothing yet. So what
are we talking about? This idea that we have to
start talking about a side B side before we even
get to the fight. What the hell are we talking
about Ryan already talking B side that haven't even started conversations.
I will say Ryan is far more popular than Devin

(28:07):
Haney is, and that's just the truth. You look at
it through fight numbers, you look at it through pay
per view sales, you look at it through social numbers.
Ryan pulls more eyeballs than Devin Haney.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's just the truth.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
They're both champions now and Ryan won the last fight,
So again no contest. Ryan was on you know PDS,
not on purpose, on purpose, don't really care about that.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Ryan's THEA side.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
If we're talking about who is going to pull in
more viewers, go look at you know again, Devin Haney,
Brian Norman Junior, and how many people watch that versus
how many people watched Ryan Garcia.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And Mario Barrios.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I not to say that Devin is not worthy, and
again on a championship level, he has done more in
the sport, point blank period.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Devon has been the better fighter.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
He's been undisputed champ right, he has been a unified champ,
he has been multiple division champ. But when we're talking
about who's going to bring in more eyes, it's Ryan Garcia.
Ryan puts out that message saying you would wake up
with an IVY connected to you and doctor monitoring you like.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's not that that's not say.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'm gonna kock you out and you're gonna wake up
in the hospital. That's saying you're gonna wake up after
being in a coma crazy. This is like the way
Ryan was talking to him after the before the first fight.
Mannic Ryan type stuff. Then he said, let's understand, you
lost a Rollie one fight ago. One fight ago, you
weren't even ranked in the division. But you DM and
me talking about you're the A side. I'm number one
in the division and on the pound for pound list.

(29:22):
If you don't want to fight, just say that. Stop
trying to gaslight. Are we really gonna do this?

Speaker 7 (29:26):
Though?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I hate this stuff for both guys talk about who's
gonna be a side? Who gives us shit? Devin, for
the most part, takes on everybody. You have to give
him his credit there. Devin Haney will fight everyone.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Ryan has found a lot of people too.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Ryan doesn't seem like he ducks outside of maybe you
know Roly and I don't know what happened with the
Roly rematch.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
But Ryan wants this, Devon wants this.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Let's not let it slide because of who got to
be a side that's not I don't want that, dude.
Let's not hype this thing up and be like, no,
he didn't want it because he wanted to a side
and I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Actually a who gives a shit?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Make it fifty to fifty, no A side, no B side,
fifty to fifty even, let's go.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Dude, because we need moments like this. Who remembers the chaos?
N GQ doing what I do?

Speaker 7 (30:09):
All right?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Looking nice? Okay, come through.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
And I.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Don't know if Ryan Garcia you're taking a fight serious
or not.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Granted that was a selectively edited, uh sit down with
the Zone, but it's the entire build up was insane.
You couldn't have scripted how crazy the trash talk between
them was and the animosity.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Between them was. It was insane. Who remembers this? You
know my friend? Remember that you're not my friend. Remember
that you're not my friend. Dad's a your dad. I'm
gonna beat you. I'm gonna beat you. I'm gonna beat you.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm gonna beat you.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I'm aa beat you. I'm a beat you. I'm a beach.
I'm reading everything. You saw you suck you saw you
know you back now that can talk for you.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Everybody know you really.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You that was whack. Yeah, he's whack. You saw bro,
you saw you never saw this is crazy? This was
in insane. Saw this.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's not like it's crazy good trash talk. They're just
calling each other whack. But you can tell both the
like this is what real animosity looks like.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
This.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
This is a manufactured This is two dudes that used
to have a relationship. You know, we're kind of close.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Whatever fought in the amateurs, a bunch that grew to
absolutely hate each other.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
We've seen that video with Tank Beat, Joe asked. Floyd
showed me. Yeah, I mean the ships, the video, the video.
I've seen the video. You ain't gonna do ship. You
ain't gonna do ship. You look like a close right now, bro,
you look like a ghost, he said. You know, I'll
tell you we're gonna feel some good you ain't about.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Don't run up on me because you know he's the
real fighter out of everybody. Shut the fuck up anyway,

(32:12):
hit him with the Ryan roll. This is the animosity
I'm talking about. It was insane. It was like ridiculous,
but at the same time, I loved every minute. Remember this,
just like where's your mom?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Bitch?

Speaker 7 (32:27):
So fun?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Insane. Even said you're gonna get killed. Top Bill died.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah, said yeah, you can't stopping it got real? Yeah,
got it, got writ it got real. Yeah it got real.
It got real.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
You're gonna eat a lot more before you hit the campus.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Boy, Yeah, Yeah, it didn't work out that way, didn't man.
But again, you know there there was uh you know,
the missing the way and the osreing in the system.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
But this was this was the build up, man, This
this is what made us go, oh, we need this fight.
This was one of the most interesting build ups in
the history of modern boxing, I'll be honest.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And then of course Ryan is going back. He said, bro,
who are a costume to the media day? And then
Devin was responding about the fear getting to him. I
fear no one, and then he said, fear the Lord.
So now we got a holy war on our hands.
We got a religious battle. Don't know if we need
that right now because of everything going on. But then
Ryan says, my dad has been out coaching Bill since
the start and will continue to do so that's why

(34:01):
we always have the last laugh.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I want to make it clear, I do want that
fight next. If we can figure this out point blank period.
Does that mean if we could figure this out, figure
it out, dude?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh and apparently one of Ryan's cousins beat Devin's little
brother and the amateurs this weekend, so that happened. But yeah,
there shouldn't be anything else to figure out, honestly. And
then there was a back and forth between Ryan and
Bill as well. I think yeah, because Bill said Hany
versus Garcia too right.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
He put it.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Garcia's same foot, Ryan's suckond Bill's funniest shit done right.
And then I think Ryan responded, shut your pitch ass up.
You know you are somewhat aware, so be real and understand.
You just want that ass whooping again. My dad will
out coach you any day. You can't keep up, Bill said,
couldn't make weight. You were three pounds over fake fat
boy and positive for PDS. Henry does a terrible job

(34:49):
with you as a person.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's why my cousin beats your terrible, lying, obnoxious son.
And Sean Haney that he spelled his name wrong. Another
Garcia High Desert robbery both if your parents are amateur
judges slash referees. So you all love good hometown robberies.
We fought at your show against your fighter, crazy man.
Great experience, though, I dare you to post the fight video,

(35:11):
so uh yeah, man, I mean again, you already see
they haven't even signed anything now again, trash talk is
trash talk, but they haven't even signed anything, they haven't
even gotten into formal discussions, and the animosity is right
back where it was. This fight has to happen, and
honestly it should happen next because they're both title holders.
It makes the fight a little bigger when there's a
belt on the line, obviously, but more so than that,

(35:34):
we just want to see what happens one at a
different weight. We're talking one forty seven this time around.
Devin was I mean, he looked like Ryan said to
be fair, a ghost at one hundred and forty pounds.
He did not look good in that weight cut, looked
like he, you know, had really had a hard cut.
Then Ryan purposely doesn't make weight, and then again just
the entire narrative around it like Ryan was not on

(35:57):
Devon's level, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Now we find out no, he is now.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Devin, though, after that loss shook the cobwebs, went out
and got the win versus Brian Norman got a win
before that as well, locked Brian Norman down, got some
confidence in himself again, and of course Ryan did the same.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
After losing to Rollie.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
He comes back drops Brios in the first thirty seconds
and smokes him in twelve rounds.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And just you know, again, I don't really.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Care about the A side stuff, but if we're talking socials,
it's not even close. We're talking about the recaps on
these things. You know, Devin's selling.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Sixty k pay per view.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Not great, but it doesn't. I mean again, these two
together are the draw. Yes, Ryan is a bigger draw
by himself, but these two together are the reason we
want to do this because they're animosity, they're back and
forth what we saw happen in the first fight. And yes,
quite frankly, you have to include this when you're talking
about it, that Ryan did miss wait and it must
have given him an advantage because he purposely missed it.

(36:49):
He didn't get to one forty. Ryan clearly did have
osteren in his system, knowingly or not.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's what happened.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So there are gonna be questions about one, what would
be different if he didn't have that too, what would
be different if he had made weight? And three what's
different now that they both get to have seven pounds
extro and that they both have had a couple of
fights under their belt to shake the cobwebs of that night.
It was explosive, it was insane. It was probably the
most insane night and a couple of weeks or months

(37:15):
on boxing Twitter that I've ever seen. And because of that,
we need to run it back. This is my pitch
to make Ryan Garcia versus Devin Haiti, and I say
do it in July, like or you know, sometime in
that mid May, June, July, anywhere right there in the summer,
like into summertime, because boxing needs its own version of
International Fight Week, like the UFC has it, you know,

(37:36):
and they're gonna have I wouldn't run it against the
UFC because they're gonna have the White House event in
late June, and they're probably gonna have Conor mac gregor
fight in early July. But somewhere around that boxing having
its International Fight Day, maybe a Sinco to Mayo fight.
Maybe a little too close to right now, just because
we're already in March, but still fight of the summer.
Ryan Garcia Devin Haity to the rematch. I need it,

(37:57):
I want it, They want it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Belts on the.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Line, unification. It just makes sense boxing, for once, do
the thing that makes sense. Don't give us the run around,
don't talk about a side, none of that.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Just do what makes sense because both these guys in
their prime, both these guys already did it. There's a
question mark still even after we saw what happened in
the fight, and we.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Need those answers.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
If you guys agree with me, let me know down
in the comments. And I'm already starting to get that
feel like we did that first time around, where this
build up and payoff is going to be something like
we have never seen before. That's just my opinion. But
you guys tell me what you think. What would happen
if Ryan and Devin rematched and will that fight take place?
I don't have those answers, but I really hope so.

(38:42):
And I guess we'll just hang out and hope for
the best because there's really no way to know, so
I guess we'll find out, all right. So we are
back on the way concept presented by The Ring Magazine,
and today we are taking a look at UFC three
twenty six. We're back on the MMA coverage because this
is a major car. It involves two major players that

(39:02):
I think could be in for a rid pansy nooy, Yeah,
that's Roy Connor McGregor is coming back sometime in the
summer in the winner. In my opinion of this main
event between Max Holloway and Charles Lavera, they may have
a shot at getting that Connor McGregor fight.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
After we predict all of the fights on the main card,
in some of the prelimbs and break down, you have
C three twenty six, what happens this Saturday the breakdown,
let's go, well, you know what, let's just go through
the main car. We'll predict them all and then we'll
get into the main So to start off, I have
to do it just because he's my boy. I'm taking
Cody Garbrandt at the right page at thirty four, Who knew?

(39:40):
I mean, that's just how time works. At a certain point,
Time's gonna catch up with us all. And Cody went
from the twenty I think twenty four to twenty five
year old, maybe twenty six, I don't exactly know, but
world champion in the bantamweight division. So now the old
I mean, he was undefeated, couldn't be touched, gets the
belt and just had a fall off worse than my

(40:01):
YouTube channel. But it's still Cody Garbrant and it's still
real to me.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Damn it. All right, I want to see the best
version of Cody show up.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
He hasn't, like I said, it hasn't gone well for
him lately, gotten beaten in two fights, I mean one
against Brian Keller, but that's to be expected. So he's,
you know, coming off a two fight losing streak, kind
a bunch of fights canceled, was on a losing streak
before that. But yeah, here we are in the big
twenty twenty six and Cody Garbrandt, thirty four years of age,
takes on Long Jao, who I want to see more about.

(40:34):
Do we even have do we have much here? The
MMA profile? Let's take a look. Okay, so again up
and down the notes? A title fight?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah? What title fight?

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Was?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
What were we doing here? An, I'm wait, title fight?
Are we talking about? I don't know. ESPN got some
weird shit going on, but anyway, yeah, listen, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I'm not gonna lie. I don't know too much about
Long Jaw or Joao Long, although I know is his
reaches longer than Cody's, which is you know, a bit
of a problem when you have a guy like Cody
who likes to box with this shut up, this is
my fuck it pick. I'm going Cody Garbrant, and I
just want to see a knockout from Cody one time,
for the once, for the boys to take us back
to twenty sixteen. Man, they're saying in twenty twenty six

(41:11):
it's twenty sixteen again, So hopefully Cody can turn the
clock back and get a win bars.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
But then we move on. Now.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I want you guys in the comments to tell me
about some of these fighters that I may not know
because I haven't been as balls deep in MMA as
I maybe it should have been.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Over the last couple of years. Have been, you know,
very much into the boxing game.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
But that doesn't mean that I don't want to see
some banger fights and that I may not be clued
in on some people that can rise from this prelim card.
And yeah, so if I'm missing anybody, let me know.
But we're gonna move to the main card. RoboCop taking
on Bruno Fajeda, and by by just proxy of RoboCop
being on a card, anytime he's on a card, I
pick him. I'll take RoboCop in a third round stoppage

(41:55):
Tko dude, not much else really to put there. Don't
know a ton about Bruno Fada, But I'm taking Robo,
Drew Dover, Michael Johnson, didn't. Michael Johnson just upset Zell
hub who got upset again after that. Yeah, had the
decision over Zel Huber. He's been upset a bunch of times.
Iman got the okay. Michael Johnson on a bit of
a streak here, his last loss to Diego Fejeda. He's

(42:15):
on a three fight win streak coming into twenty twenty six.
And Drew Doover thirty seven. Man, Drewdover been around for
a long time, and he can throw some hammers.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
He's been in there with some of the best, some
of the up and coming class, some of the best
of his class. But I love watching Michael Johnson fight Drewdover.
Strong guy, gonna stick his nose in there. Got a
chin that's made of iron, or at least it was.
It's thirty seven now taking a lot of punches. I'm
gonna take Michael Johnson here. Even at thirty nine, he
still got some of the fastest hands in the UFC. Now,
if this turns into a grappling contest, and Drew Doover's

(42:46):
strong guy, I would say, a bit more of a
grappling base, even though he doesn't really like to use it.
But he walks through a lot of attacks, walks through
a lot of punches, walks through a lot of damage
to get to his target. And I think Michael Johnson's
a guy you just can't walk through the punches, walk
through the damage. He's gonna catch you at some point.
I'm taking Michael Johnson. I'm taking my stoppage. I think
drewd Dober's chin might be compromised after taking so much

(43:08):
punishment throughout his career. He'll take Michael Johnson. Rob Font,
Raoul Roses Junior. Rob Font part of the what do
they call him? The New England Cartel? New England Cartel?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Rob Font? Who else was up?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
There's three guys I can't remember now, but Rob was
was the main guy that came out of it. Oh,
Calvin Cator, somebody else. But Rob had again a bit
of an up and down last couple of years. Right,
He's had wins and losses, lost to some of the best,
beat the guys he should have beat, and that's kind
of been how it is. But if you're Raoul Roses Junior,
this is you know, you've been in the UFC since
what he was eighteen years old, and it's like now

(43:41):
it's time for him, at twenty one to start leveling
up the competition, and this is a big jump up.
I will say Rob Font is a massive step up
from anybody that Raoul his face. So I'd never seen
the striking of Raoul rosis Junior be anywhere near the
level of Rob Font, so I would advise him not
to get into it an striking exchange and it might

(44:02):
be a little too much too quick for the young guy.
I'm very interested to see how the fight plays out
because I don't know that Raoul's wrestling is very good either.
I know that jiu jitsu is top level, but the
ability to get to the ground or either get to
his grappling from standing is going to be a bit
of an issue for him. I think even if this
takes place in the boxing range, I think Rob is

(44:23):
gonna piece him up big time if it goes there.
So yeah, I would think Raoul tries to get to
the grappling, tries to get to the clinch, get his
hands on him and get him to the ground. If
that's the case, this could be a submission win for
Raoul Rosis Junior. And like I said, every time Rob
has stepped up to the upper level of competition, the
Davis and Vigor Rado's or I mean, even this David

(44:43):
Martinez fight was a bit of a shock. But when
he's had to go to that next level, the Corey Sandhagen's,
it's always resulted in a loss, but it has been
a decision lost in most cases. Now, again, these are
mostly strikers that you're seeing Rob lose to. But I
don't know how he'll handle the heavy, heavy grappling another striker.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Striker striker strikers, a lot of heavy strikers in the
bantamweight division. Raoul presents a bit of a different puzzle.
That's interesting. That's a different, interesting wrinkle there. I think
I'm gonna go Raoul Rosis Junior by submission, just because
I don't see anything on Rob Font's resume that resembles,
you know, a heavy grappling style that he's had to

(45:23):
deal with in a long time. Again, none of the
like Pettis, maybe Ricky Simone but Marie Pedro Muno's loses
in a guillotine.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
The Munoz who is probably the one of the better
grapplers on his resume that actually uses it. Yeah, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I'm going Raoul Rosis. I just think the grappling that
that Raoul has, if he can get it hands on,
I think that could be the ultimate difference maker. Again,
Rob could knock him out, and he could do it
easily just because of the boxing he possesses. But I'm
sticking with Raul Roasis junior submission win Ross Junior. Al Right,
then we move on Kyle Brahalo, ryaner Deridter. Interesting fight,

(45:59):
very very interesting fight. For a while, it looked like
Kyo was gonna almost walk himself into a title shot
before the Imvov fight, and that didn't go his way
at all. Nazredin is a absolute monster, but had some
big wins. Got the win over Cannon here, got the
win over Craig and by the way, mccal he became
fighting nerds after this fight. Right, but Reiner de Ritter
has played spoiler for a lot of guys as well.

(46:21):
Right for the Brendon Allen fight, had played spoiler for
Bo Nickel, so very very interesting. You got Dutch kickboxing
going against essentially the freestyle fighting of Kyo. Good kickboxing,
good grappling when needed, but more heavy into the stand up.
This is just a grappling between him and Jonason Altmeta. Interesting. Yeah,

(46:44):
I think this will be an interesting fight. I think
this will be an interesting, interesting fight because we do
have Reiner coming off the loss and the stoppage to
Brendan Allen. I think that was a bit of a
shock to the system because RDR was looked at as
a potential world title contender and he still could be.
But I think Brendan Allen stopping him in his tracks
like that was was a big wake up to potentially
where he actually is. And again Kyo losing in a

(47:04):
five round decision to em Evov, but still losing decisively
in that fight. Do I know what the odds are?
Not that I'm picking off the odds, but I do
want to know what my odds look like here, I
do want to know what my odds look like. Ryaner
is plus two twenty to Kyo's minus two eighty. Yeah,
I'm man, that's kind of a crazy line. I feel
like minus two eighty to Kyo. Okay, well I was

(47:27):
leaning Kyo anyway, but no, I think I'll take Kyo
in a This is a three round fight, three rounder,
I'll take him in a decision again, though I don't know.
Both guys coming off five rounders.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
That changes things.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I think Kyle maybe can do enough with his feet,
with his striking, keep himself standing and yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's a tough one.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Though.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
It's a tough one because already are you know again?
Last fight got a wake up call. But yeah, I'll
take Kyo decision. All right, let's go made event time
our main event of the evening. Max Holloway, Charles who
Bronx or I assume this is for the BMF. I
didn't see that anywhere. But Max is the BMF, Charles fighting?
Are they doing that for the BMF? Is the BMF

(48:05):
always on the line? I don't know, but this is
a big fight. Number one lightweight division is still kind
of open game, right You have Justin Gatche and Armin
Serouki and essentially fighting for that number one spot. Everybody
believes that Justin's gonna get the fight with Ilia top Torto,
but Arman's still there. But again, the winner of this
fight could potentially be right there behind Arman if you

(48:26):
wanted to move back in for one more title opportunity.
And let's not act like Charles Levera didn't have Armond
dead to rights this close to losing that fight when
the shorts came off and he got out of the choke,
I was a big deal. And Charles is dangerous at
all points in the fight because of his submission game.
And obviously, you know, Max is a fantastic striker, Charles
great striker. But out of the two of them, Charles's

(48:48):
chin is starting to look more and more suspect. He
gets dropped, it feels like in almost every fight nowadays,
and he doesn't recover like he used to. Used to
get dropped, get back up and whip your ass now
you know, getting drop and staying down now again, Ilia
knocked out Max as well, so maybe that's just the
crazy power in the hands of Ilia Taporia. But I
guess when I'm looking at this, I look at the

(49:09):
avenues to victory. Charles has potentially more avenues to victory
because he's I think, a better all around fighter, Like
his ground game is very very good, but Max's takedown
defense is so good. Charles doesn't initiate a lot of
takedowns more so like trying to pull guard or potentially
in scrambles get to something, or just lay down on
the floor and invite you down. So I again, Max,

(49:29):
I don't think unless he's hit and heard by Charles,
is going to the ground with him in the boxing,
in the exchanges, Charles I think has hit a lot
more easily, but he does have that crazy seventy four
inch reach for a guy at five eight, So even
when they're in you know, boxing range, if he can
utilize the jab a little more like what he ran into.
And it was a big problem in the Iliad Taporia fight,
was he fought at Ilia's range, like really close range boxing,

(49:53):
which he's got a seventy four inch reach, He's got
a good teap to the stomach, right, he's.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Got great front kicks. Why why would you fight it
on Ilia's terms?

Speaker 1 (50:01):
And that's the question I'll ask here because the entire
build up between these two has been talking about you know,
Max Holloway's pointing to the center and having the ten
second swing off and Charles is like, I'll oblige it.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
And I always am like, why that's the one guy
when he does the point, you don't say yes to
look at who's done it and who has it and
who's been successful and who has it. Ilio went, no,
we're not doing that, and he out boxed him and
he fought him, and Max fought well in that fight,
but Eliot brought his fight to him and eventually found it.
Everybody else that wants to point down there gets either

(50:33):
Ko like justin gags y or ends up fighting on
Max's terms because they're ready for the moment.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
So I think if Charles you know, utilizes the crazy
reach he has, is able to get to Max with
the teaps, is able to keep himself at range, this
could be a very very interesting fight. Max has shown
he's got some power in his hands, more so now
at lightweight at the right you know, coming up to lightweight.
Not the lightweight fight the first time around with Poitier,

(51:00):
but the second one where he made Porier look like
the old man that needed to be taken out to pasture.
And he's got crazy volume. He'll overwhelm you. And let's
not forget this is a rematch between these two and
the first time around was I think the biggest spot
where Charles Olivera got that moniker of being a quitter.
Do you guys remember this was all the way back
in twenty fifteen. I don't know what happened if it

(51:22):
was Charles's collarbone or something. And this is not the
I'm not has really nothing to do with this fight,
because I don't think Charles is the same guy at all.
I think he has shed that idea of him being
a quitter or whatever years ago. Now, right, we all
know since Charles got the belt that mother is leone right,
he is the lion, and he's shown time and time
again he's willing to fight anyone at everyone.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
But it does make me wonder that in both of
their minds.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yes, Charles obviously wants to get that fight back after
essentially just quitting in the first round, and again I
want to call him a quitter because it could have
been a collarbone issue. He didn't finish the fight, but
he got that moniker then and it followed him for
a long long time up until the you know, the
twenty twenties when he really made that title run. And
this is, by the way, how long ago these two
have been in the UFC. This is twenty fifteen. I'm

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talking about eleven years ago. They were in the UFCS
and they weren't even like they were youngsters then, but
they weren't youngsters youngsters that was even two or three
years before that. But yeah, I think that Charles is
gonna want to have some payback on his mind, for sure.
I think that Max obviously wants to get back to
one more chance at Iliot Taporia because, let's be honest,
he was.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Having success in that fight.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
He You could argue that Max won a couple of
the He could have been up two to oh on
Ilia right one, one, two oh. Regardless, he was putting
some damage on Iliya, he was out boxing him for
a bit, he was striking with him. Well, So Max
still thinks I got a shot at the lightweight title
here with a win. And again, you know Ilia is
gonna fight justin Gaechee or Arman. What happens there. I

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think Arman's the worst matchup for everybody in the division
outside of Ilia, and even that fight pretty damn interesting.
But without that being said, I think that in a
fight where you don't want to see anyone lose there
can only be one winner. I think as long as
Max fights his fight. I know the champion did have
a name at one point and it was Charles Dubronx Olavera,

(53:08):
but I don't see it going that way. I can
see Max stopping Charles again or winning a decision. I
think Max does need to be careful because at points
during the Dustin Poarier fight, Dustin jumped Gilly as Dustin
does and didn't get it. If Charles du Bronx jumps
Gilly on you, or gets to an ankle, or looks
for submission, if there is a scramble, if there is

(53:29):
a clinch where he just happens to lock his hands
and here we go s grip and he's not letting go.
Charles is far more dangerous with his grappling and his
submission game than Dustin ever thought of being. And if
Dustin can get close, Charles can seal the deal. So Max,
like he did in the first fight at least when
it started, has to be very aware of that. Has
to be again mobile, high volume fighter through the five rounds.

(53:50):
And I'm gonna take Max either by stoppage as he
wears Charles down with the striking, and again Charles's chin
not being what it was, and that he invites a
lot of the close quarters boxing, which is why he
got knocked out with Ilia. He walks straight into range
behind almost nothing, And at thirty six years old, can
you teach a dog new tricks? Can you teach Charles
to not want to get close boxing range and slug

(54:11):
it out even behind the high guard? I mean, let's
be honest, We're in MMA, it's four ounce gloves. How
much is the high guard really gonna save you in
those exchanges? I just think Max Pepper's in with the jab,
the low kicks, the stomps on the knee, the teeps.
Charles has his own teaps, but I just think out
of the two of them, Max has got not the
cleaner hands, but the more aware striking offensively and defensively.

(54:31):
And if Charles can't get into some scrambles on Max,
if he can't land a takedown, if he can't get
to underhooks in the clinch and and again maybe even
try to pull guard, then Max is gonna just gonna
do a literal number on him, right, He's going to
continue running.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Those numbers, That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
But I've been wrong a lot before, so the waders
might be coming to UFC three twenty six. I want
to know what you guys think in the comments. This
summer is going to be one for the ages. We
have the UFC White House coming International Fight. We come in,
but this Saturday I will be live on to Zone
for Misfits duel too between Tom Mitchell and Gabroeseidel. I'll
call those fights. I'll come back watch the UFC event.

(55:08):
Maybe if we get done in time, I'll be able
to stream. We'll see no promises, but if not, you
will get a breakdown video the next day. Or do
not worry about that comment below? What do you think
happens in the main event? Will it be Max Holloway
or Charles dubronx olivera who is going to take that
BMF title home?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find out,
all right.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
So we're back on the way concept presented by The
Ring magazine and today Logan Paul is calling out people
that can't fight to fight as a means to promote
a flag football game that he's playing against Tom Brady,
and it's just so frustrating because he is getting everyone again.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
He is doing the thing he always does.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And everyone is falling for it, including myself because I'm
here covering it. Logan is garnering attention around something that
won't happen for something that will, and doing it in
a way that he's always done, and using his best talent,
which is riling up people by saying the thing that
they don't believe, and honestly.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
It's probably true.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
So yeah, you heard me right, Logan wants to fight
NFL players for one million dollars to prove that he's
a better athlete than they are.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And really, that's not what this is.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
And I'm gonna explain why. It's just another marketing ploy
from Logan. Paul the breakdown.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Let's go all right, So this has gone megaviral as.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I was traveling out here to the UK and I'm
just now seeing it, so I'm a couple of days late,
but it is what it is. Logan was on his
podcast with Mike Magilac medame Usel Mike. They were speaking
about this flag football. I mean, for the last couple
of weeks, Logan and Tom Brady have been faking a
beef to promote their flag football game coming up, which
I don't even know what the hell it is.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
It's it's some big celebrity flag football thing.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But they're acting like both guys are better athletes than
the other one, and it's a fun debate topic. It's
a fun conversation to think, like Logan is being facetious,
I think, or at least exaggerating a bit that WWE
athletes are better than NFL athletes. In no way, shape
or form is at the case most NFL washouts, most
other sports washouts. Go and wrestle in the WWE and listen.
I like wrestling. I'm a massive pro wrestling fan. Not

(57:11):
really a massive product of the WWE as it sits today.
It's more cookie cutter, corporate kind of bullshit. But I
love pro wrestling. I also understand that it is a
form of athletics that isn't anywhere near what the NFL is.
So the whole thing has been just like Logan and
Tom using that as a selling point for this flag
football game. And I want you guys to know that
because that is the starting point of this This is

(57:34):
what it's all about. There is no real beef here.
There is no Logan and tom Brady not liking each other.
It's all bullshit. It's all for that, but it is
spiraled into something else which I do find interesting. And
Logan is gonna be going back and forth, and finally
he put the Trump card on the table. Okay, NFL guys,
if you think you're better athletes, come fight me, which
is a typical kind of Paul Brothers move. I mean,

(57:54):
Jake gets a little bit of a pass because Jake
has now fought Anthony Joshua and fair play and Tommy Fury.
Logan is the absolute example of this, fighting people with
not just little fight experience, but sometimes zero fighting experience
or outside of influencer boxing, no boxing experience, and then
using that as a means to flex how good he

(58:14):
is a boxing. Here's Logan looking into the camera and
talking a bunch of bullshit.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
I wouldn't be surprised if I throw hands with Tom
Brady on the field in La Dude, tom Brady does
not want to throw hands immediately.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
You're not gonna throw hands with Tom Brady on the field.
You're not gonna do that. You know you're not gonna.
So this is bullshit.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
They put him out there of him calling me a bitch.

Speaker 8 (58:36):
Football took Gronk, of all people who I beat up
all of his brothers back to back.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
The Gronks lined up and I beat them up back
to back to back. And guess who didn't step in there?
Mister Gronk himself.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Now this part, this is the thing about Logan. I
don't like him, you guys know this, but he's right
about this. He beat the shit out of the Gronk brothers. Again,
none of them can fight, zero no fighting experience, it's
no idea how to punch, and Logan beat the shit
out of him because Logan has experience, knows how to punch,
did it for views and clout and couldn't even I mean, yes,
he beat him up, but didn't beat him up as

(59:11):
bad as I thought he would. Logan still looked, you know,
super green doing the things that Logan does, low hands,
just kind of like only athleticism arm punching the stuff
that Logan does. But this is where you, regardless of
how you feel about Logan, you can't really say shit
to him because he does back that shit up, at
least in terms of the argument he's trying to form,
which is like, I'll beat all your asses in the NFL,

(59:32):
I'll beat the shit out of all y'all for the
most part, if it were actually true, and he wasn't
doing like a WWE style promo talking about yeah, I'll
throw hands with Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
He's working right, he's working ww style.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
But if they were to actually fight, yeah, Logan would
beat the shit out of Tom Brady like it just would.
And he beat the shit out of Gronk and all
of Goronk's brothers. He's already done it. And this goes
for ninety percent of the NFL. I'm telling you now.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
You may not want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
You may say, well, Aaron Donald's big and strong, yeah,
DK metcalfould get him, or name the NFL player, But
you're wrong. Most athletes don't know how to fight. They
don't they don't train it, they've never practiced it. They
may have gotten into fights and they're strong and they're athletic,
and for about thirty seconds they could be a little
dangerous or whatever, but most athletes don't know how to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Go watch a basketball player or a basketball game, and
when players.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Try to fight each other, it's like watching people learn
how to walk, like relearn how to walk after being
like paralyzed. It's like watching someone with Tourett's have a
massive episode right in front of everybody. That's how people
that don't know how to fight trying to fight look like, right,
they've watched a couple of movies Steven Seagal, I'm supposed
to stand this way, do that. That's not how it works.
Logan's been trained, and he's been trained for years now.

(01:00:40):
He would on ironically beat the shit out of most
of the NFL players. And it's one of these things
where the all argument is stupid, because of course he would.
They don't know how to fight, But most of the
general public will look at this and go, nah, Logan
ain't no athlete on their level. You're right, he's not
their level of athlete, or he'd have been in the NFL.
But athleticism is not the end all be all for fighting.
You need to know how, and they don't. And he's

(01:01:01):
rage baiting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Him a bit.

Speaker 8 (01:01:06):
I think it's cute if any of the football players
want to fight, we can see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Fall what football players would straight up beat his ass.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
All that there is a single one, and we'll get
into it in a second.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
But let's hear it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:23):
I would put I would put any amount of money
that you would put Metcalf, not a single no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
DK Metcalf is not beating Logan's ass.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
And here's the other thing too, is that Logan says
fight and there are some guys in the NFL, especially
some of the linemen, that were former wrestlers, and that
would be interesting, right, You're talking about three hundred pounds
monsters potentially like going into an m M a kind
of fight scenario thing with Logan, he quickly rescinds the
fight offer and makes it a boxing offer, which I
think is more smart for him if you're talking about,

(01:01:54):
you know, heavyweights that also know how to wrestle, because
I was gonna say Logan if it's a fight. Logan
also has a massive wrestling background as well, and most
of these guys can't wrestle, right, they can Again, they're athletic.
Whatever Logan's dumping DK Metcalf on his head or he's
beating the shit out of him on the feet, like
he can do whatever he wants with DK. I'm sorry,
that's just the truth. Some of these other guys that

(01:02:15):
are you know, former college wrestlers former whatever high school
and they're and their you know, offensive lineman three hundred
plus pounds. That'd be a bit of a different problem
for Logan for sure, which is why he does the
pivot here, right, It's the Paul pivot. It's what I
call it. Jake does it a lot, or has done
it a lot in the past with talking about MBA fighters. Yeah,
come box met Logan will do the same thing here
where he reframes this narrative based on how he can

(01:02:36):
pull colds in the narrative he created. It's very it's
it's it's great linguistic work. It's great marketing. But it's
done so that Logan can corner the market.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
He can really.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Funnel it down to be like not this, not that,
not this, this, this, but that, and he has the
advantage there. The Pauls are great about doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Well. Football players they beat me in a boxing match, Miles.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
That is here that no football player can beat me
in boxing match. A second ago it was no player
could beat me in a fight. You notice how I
went from fight to box. It's just quick little correction, Miles.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
I would throttle Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
In a boxing match. Yeah, he's right. It's not even
that I hate to say it. It's just I don't
think people understand the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I not the NFL, but I played college football and
then I tried to box, and it was completely different.
Boxing was so much harder. My muscle memory was in
no way, shape or form what I needed for boxing
from the NFL. You do things asymmetrically versus or unilaterally
versus how you do things in any other sport, which
is bilaterally right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
You raise your left arm, you raise your right knee.
As you're running.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
You go to do a layup, you jump off your
right foot, you lay it with the left hand. You
jump off your left foot, you lay it with the
right hand. And boxing its step with your left foot,
jab with your left hand, step with your right foot,
throw with your right hand.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
So it's just so much different.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
If you haven't trained it, you're gonna look like a
deer on eye. You are going to look stupid, and
Logan's going to be the one making you look stupid.
So yeah, in a boxing mat as great an athlete,
and Miles Garrett is light years better athlete than Logan
Ball and most NFL players are. It just won't matter
in terms of them in a boxing match because they've
never done it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
Miles Garrett, I will bet you why do we choose him?
It could have been any name, but any football player,
Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Any football player, remember that, any football player, not any
active NFL player, any football player, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Like, I don't even I don't even know. Don't even
try calling out Sam Donald. Sam Donald doesn't a million dollars.
A million dollars. You come to the gym, we put
on boxing gloves. We see how it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Put on boxing gloves. Now I thought we were fighting.
Now it's boxing gloves.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Not a single one like it's this, there's levels to
the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Oh he beat Chad, he'd beat Chad. I I want
to fight Chad Ocho Sinkle. I've been saying me and
Chad would be a great fight. I think that we
only have one fight, each around the same size with
did the face off, Leo? Make sure you put that
face off in there. I was kind of size mogging him.
He was shoulder magging me, but I was framed magana
bit neck magging.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
For sure, me and Chad would be a good matchup.
I really believe that. But Logan would beat Chad Logan.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Even if Chad Ocho Cinko has got boxing experience whatever,
Logan would beat it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Just not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Logan's trained way, way, way too long for Chad to
beat it. But then again, sometimes I feel like we
overrate Logan, like, yeah, he beat Dylan Dennis and he
isn't like some monster that's out here crushing motherfuckers. I
think in sparring Logan's a lot better than under the
lights Logan. I think pressure really kind of gets to
him when it comes to boxing. He's great in the WWE,

(01:05:38):
but I think when real competition comes to him in
the form of under the lights pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
He shrinks a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
He should have been able to get Dylandnis out of
there and couldn't couldn't beat KSI, which he had every advantage,
and literally the Logan Paul playbook for still couldn't do it,
got beat in his own backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
It was super embarrassing warnings.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
But in a spar setting and honestly, in a real
fight setting, he's beating all these guys. I'm sorry, he's
beating every single one of them. He's probably antsing on
him fucking fortnite doing a split doing whatever clowning because
he just has so much more experience.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
It's not even close.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
I will throw hands with any of you motherfuckers. Bro,
what about Antnio Brown? Stop?

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
What happens when you take a football player and you
wrestle them and then you ground upon them, They're not
gonna know what to do?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Oh the way, wrestling ground and pound there at the
end again, I would be there. There's some guys that
in the NFL and have wrestling backgrounds that be a
little interesting for Logan. By the way, let's just get
him Josh Hokit, who's you know in the UFC former
NFL player, at least I think practice squad player.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I'm not sure. Just give him Josh Hokitt. That's my guy, man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Josh Hoka is one of my funniest is one of
the funniest fighters in the UFC right now, and he's
a bad motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
He's fighting this weekend though.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
But there are a bunch of NFL guys, of course,
who are very prideful, who obviously think who is this
ship bird Logan, Paul and again. These guys keep falling
for it. They think that Logan and again Jake ran
this same playbook for years.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
They think he's a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
YouTuber, fake tough guy that doesn't know how to fight,
or is on the same level they're on, or their
idea of their athletic superiority. It exposes their hubris, right,
it exposes a little bit of their their ego, and
they don't know that Logan is way better at this
than they are. And so of course a bunch of
guys called Logan out. I mean, I have no idea
who brock Coff even is. Sorry again, sorry, don't know

(01:07:21):
who that is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But there's a bunch of NFL guys, right, It's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
They're all dming the same thing, which is kind of
that seems fucking fixed. This is like three minutes apart
from each other, all three dms, So it's kind of weird.
I wonder if Logan uses contacts to get some some
phony people to attack.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Like But here's the interesting thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
There's one guy he didn't call out, and that's my boy,
Le'Veon Bell, who is a former All Pro NFL running back.
And no he's not in the NFL currently, but he's
in his mid thirties still, I would say, at his prime,
and did this to one of the greatest running backs
that has ever lived, Adrian Peterson, in their first fight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
He will daft to the body and hold that I've.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Sparred Le'Veon before I ever fought, and he put me
through the ringer as well. Logan, funny enough, didn't mention
Le'Veon Bell, and I'm not really sure why because when
you think about it, Le'Veon Bell was a fantastic athlete,
one of the best running backs of his era, if
not the best. Le'Veon Bell is a multi sport athlete
now with his boxing, and he has experience, not even
as much experience as Logan Paul has, by the way,

(01:08:24):
but why wouldn't he call out Le'Veon you know, for
all the talking we've done here and all the ideas
about you know, having a fight. And again, he didn't
say that you had to be an active NFL player.
He just said you needed to, uh, you needed to
be in the NFL. So Le'Veon tweeted, stop dunking at
Logan Paul bro trying to fight an NFL player that's
never fought before. Exactly this is how Logan pol actually

(01:08:44):
does act like a fake tough guy because.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Logan's a tough dude. He can fight. I'm sure he's
been in there and sparred with some high level guys.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
When it comes to actually fighting, it's always an advantageous
position for him before the fight ever start. More experience
in boxing, more experience in fighting, weight size, whatever else.
It's always tailored to Logan, and again jac has benefited
from this as well. But this whole thing has been
centered around promo for a flag football tournament that's kind
of become real now. And the biggest point of it

(01:09:12):
is Logan is trying to fight what people perceive to
be high level athletes. What they don't know is that
those guys can't fight, and Logan can. And Le'Veon calls
it out, bro, trying to fight an NFL player that's
never fought before. Let's set it up, Bro, we all
heard you say you can't beat any NFL player. We
could fight in April. The NFL Draft is in Pittsburgh.
We could fight NFL Draft weekend. Let's make it happen.

(01:09:33):
I love that idea. Do it at the draft. Pat
McAfee show there, Logan Le'Veon again. This is genius level
marketing from Logan because he's got a massive following. Whatever
he says and does kind of turns to gold or crypto,
and then somehow it's all gone allegedly. But then all
of a sudden, Logan Coldfeet comes out. Mister shaky Han
walks into the building. He says, hey, you're not in

(01:09:53):
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
B you can actually fight, so i'd have to properly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Train meet I'd have to step away from WWE, which
I won't do, especially not for you. See, there's no
money here because you're not a draw. Prove me otherwise.
Of course you want the opportunity. I'm a gold mine
for retirees like you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
But gg pro I've never seen a man duck his
own offer. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
He dunked his own actual call out offer. It's not
like he ducked a fight after saying I'll fight you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
He dunked the offer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
He made an open offer, and he never said you
had to be in the NFL. He said football player.
So point A is just completely destroyed. He says, point B,
you can actually fight, so I'd have to properly train,
meaning I'd have to step away from the WWE. Okay, fair,
you'd have to step away for a bit, but you
but Logan is praying on guys that have never fought.
He actually admits it there, Yeah, you can actually fight.

(01:10:49):
I would never do that. No, No, you can actually fight.
Why would I want to get in there with you
without properly training for it. So the entire thing Logan
just exposed. He set up a scenario where he wanted
to fight guys that never trained because he beat the
shit out of them, because they can't actually fight. While
no one was calling Logan out to a fight, Logan said,
I'll fight all the NFL guys. In the moment, a
former NFL athlete that actually boxes rolls up. He goes, nah,

(01:11:12):
I'm not gonna do that because I'd.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Have to actually train for you.

Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Uh, you can actually fight. I don't want any part
of that. And then the third point is just fucking bizarre.
He says, there's no money here because you're not a draw.
Proved me otherwise. Logan's the one that made the challenge
to everybody. He said, any NFL player, and then he
posted the DMS of guys we've never heard of, saying
the same copy and paste message in his DMS brock

(01:11:36):
huff huff the fuck baby Kings fucking k, thirty one
hundred k followers, thirty three K followers, thirty nine k followers.
For just for reference, I have more Instagram followers than
two of the NFL guys that Logan posted on his
Twitter as means of saying, this is the three This
is the easiest three.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Mil of my life. So wait a second.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
If it's the easiest three milli of your life, the
fight random nobodies that are NFL players.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
When Adyon Bell, who has millions.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Of followers on Instagram, rolls up and has fought on
major cards, including the undercard of your brother, when he
rolls up all of a sudden, there's no money in
it and he's not a draw, But you are willing
to fight the three other guys that no one's ever
heard of that couldn't draw money if you gave him
a white piece of paper and green crayon. What the
fuck are you talking about? Also, you didn't act like
this was supposed to be some kind of big event.
You said, I'll put up a million if you want

(01:12:23):
to come and fight me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
That was Logan's words. He didn't say, hey, let's make
some money on pay per view. I need a draw.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I'm sure Le'Veon Bell would put some money up to
go fight Logan. I'm sure he'd say, you know what,
you put a mill, I put a mill. I'm not
trying to pocket watch. I'm just saying, both these guys
are getting paid. I'm sure it can happen. Logan, All
of a sudden, why are these what are these stipulations?
You didn't mention none of this to begin with. You
got to be a draw, you can't actually be able
to fight, and you have to actively be in the NFL.
So you better be in the NFL. You can't have

(01:12:49):
any experience, and you better be a bigger name than me.
I don't understand what the Yeah, that's a fucking flat
out mallard Son aka a duck, and Le'Veon responded, Lol, Bro, you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Said Tom Brady, who's namn near fifty. He's not in
the NFL either.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Facts you call out Tom Brady and Gronk, neither of
them are in the NFL currently. If you don't want
the smoke, just say that. But everybody and they mom
would love to see me smoke you with Pittsburgh. I
promise you that I love Le'Veon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
That's my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
But I'm gonna disagree. I don't even think Le'Veon would smoke.
I think Le'Veon is confident. I think he's a great athlete.
I think he can fight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
But I think him and Logan's a good fight. I
genuinely I think that's a good back and forth fight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I think Logan would present some problems as well for Le'Veon,
because he's been doing this a long time and Logan's
a good athlete. But it's fucking hilarious how the moment
that someone even close to encroaching on a level of
competition that Logan fears, walks up and tries to take
the offer and puts their name out there and gets
more interaction than anybody else that Logan has mentioned at all,

(01:13:46):
talking about he's not a draw, and he's not a
Logan Paul's draw, but he ratioed the fuck out of Logan,
and just the two tweets.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
He put up, Logan goes running. Logan makes up every
excuse possible to not do it. Well, I actually meant this,
and actually that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
I can't believe he said you can actually fight, as
if the entire premise of the the offer was I
want people that can't fight like he actually said it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
We know that's the premise, but he actually said it.
What a moron.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
But anyway, I mean, listen, there are other guys like
Dion Dawkins, who, by the way, Dean Dawkins got some hands.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I'll show you here six five, three twenty. It'd be
a heavyweight matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Logan's not taking Deon Dawkins though, as far as like
there'd be no reason behind it. Also, you know, at
three and twenty pounds, how long are you going to
be fresh? They wanted to do eight rounds. I think
Dion would be pretty gas. Here was Logan fighting three
guys that were NFL caliber athletes. I don't know if
all the Gronk brothers made it to the NFL, but

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they're they're great athletes, but that had never fought. Watch
how guys that are fantastic athletes look when they've never fought.
And this is exactly why Logan wants to fight them.
He got no idea how to even protect himself. What
is that punch? He's turned his back to him? Logan

(01:15:03):
thinks he's Billy Joe Saunders because he made a guy
that's ever throwing punch missed him. Dang again, these guys,
Logan will beat the shit out of you. If you
don't know how to fight, you can be big and strong,
He'll beat the shit out of you. It's like the
most obvious answer in the world. But Logan acts like

(01:15:26):
he's Sugar Ray Leonard. He acts like he's got dang
mom and a leave from beating the ship out of
guys that came. I forgot this is so long ago.
I did a video of this when it came out,
but I forgot how stupid he acts. I mean, Logan
jabs the poor guy and he goes fucking flying because
he has no balance.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
It's a jab to the body. Homeboy just has no
idea how to move.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I'm still kind of surprised that Logan couldn't really land
super clean. He still having kind of He's just kind
of swinging. These guys are getting caught. But that's a
nice right hand. It's a good right hand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Oh it's the same highlight.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
But even then, Logan still looks super green, super trash.
I'm sorry, I mean, yeah, listen, there it is. I
think my stance on this has been the same for
like three years now, and it feels like I'm screaming
into the void.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
But NFL guys are tough dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
They're fantastic, some of the best athletes on the planet,
but they can't fight. And if you're trying to convince
yourself as an NFL athlete watching this video or watching
Logan Paul talk at crazy shit on the Internet, that
you are going to beat him up, but you have
no fight experience, I'm telling you it's not going to
go the way you think he is going to beat
the shit out of you.

Speaker 7 (01:16:45):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
But that being said, yeah, I think Logan does that
to ninety percent of the NFL. But I think there's
one guy out there that Logan wants no part of,
and it's because of the accolades he brings. Le'Veon Bell
and Logan Paul would be a good fight. Again, I'm
not saying that either guy would get smoked. I think
he'd be a good fight. But because Le'Veon and Logan's
words can fight and isn't in the NFL, even though
neither was Tom Brady or Rob Gronkowski, And because Le'Veon

(01:17:07):
isn't a draw, even though Logan was just saying, come
to my gym and we'll put up a million and
do it as long as your football player, and then
showed three randoms that looked like they did copy pasta
on the on the dm AKA. Logan didn't want any
of the smoke with someone that can actually fight, that's
a better athlete than him, and Le'Veon is a better
athlete than Louke. And that's the sad truth though, it
is that no matter what, when these things happen, Logan's

(01:17:29):
gonna get a shit ton of attention out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
I'm covering it, everybody on the internet is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
And it all started because Logan and Tom Brady are
building a flag football game and this just brings more
attention to that. They'll probably have like a little stare
down at the game and then they'll go about their business.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
But what this has turned into is a very interesting proposition.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Would Logan ever take a fight if Le'Veon Bell got
enough people behind him and people kept clowning Logan for
ducking him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I think that's what we should do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
We should just clown Logan into oblivion for ducking Le'Veon
Bell and see if they'll.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Put the card on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
And Hey, and the co main event, Me and Chado
Chosinko our thing all right, I'll be there and maybe
the Coco main event. But you guys, let me know
what you think. Are there more NFL guys that would
beat Logan up? I know Frank Gore is out there
as well. Frank might be a little old at this point,
but he's got you know, he's got some boxing experience.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
And just the premise of this, is Logan the best type?
Even say it? But is he and are he and
Jake some of the best marketers of our time?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Because damn if they don't know how to get attention, man,
they understand how to get attention and how to monetize it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
You got to give him credit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Logan's done it again here, ten million views on just
that clip alone, and Logan says he'd beat the shit
out of it most NFL guys, and I have to
agree with him, just not Le'Veon Bell. Le'Veon can fight,
which is why Logan won't ever fight out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
That's what I think, you guys, let me know what
happens next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Do we actually get a spar between Logan and Le'Veon
Logan and some other guys. I don't have those answers,
but I guess we'll find out. All right, So we're
back on the way concept presented by The Ring magazine
and just off the disappointment of UFC three twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I don't even want to say disapoint. It was just
a kind of card.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Folks, brace yourselves because it gets a little bit worse.
And maybe I'm just being a negative Nancy, Maybe I'm
being a sour puss Sally. Maybe I'm just being a
bit of a pessimist, but the UFC's White House card
was just announced, and for what we were promised, this
is a massive letdown.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
And I'm gonna explain why.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
This had every opportunity to bring the UFC back to prominence,
to stake their claim once again as the combat sports
outlet across boxing, MMA and everything in between, and they
fumbled it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Not because they had to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Not because there was no other way to do it,
but because the UFC is in a place right now
where this is the product.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I guess there is no fighting it anymore. You just
have to get used to it. What do I mean
to break down?

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Let's go, let let's contextualize this right For the last
however many months, Dana White, who sat down with me,
who sat down with other people, who had talked about
the UFC White House card, had essentially said that this
would be like the UFC sphere on steroids, right, UFC
Freedom two fifty is what they're calling it. And yeah,

(01:20:08):
you know, if you mentioned steroids and a UFC card,
how do you not have John Jones involved. We'll get
to that in a second. But data and the entire
UFC and the teases that have come from being this
you know, insane massive card putting it together, how it
was gonna blow everything out of the water, it was gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Be badass and all this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
The hype around this has been ridiculous, and it's given
you a sense of like, oh man, something big is coming,
something you know, along the lines of a UFC one hundred,
two hundred and three hundred, or like when again, you know,
Connor McGregor Habib was announced, Connor McGregor came back to
the Donald Seroni.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Fight was announced, When Jorge Masvidal fought.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Nate DS for the BMF, when George Saint Pierre came
back at UFC two seventeen, It had that kind of
feel to it. And I think that's the biggest problem
I have right now, was the hype did not match
the delivery.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
This is like ordering.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Domino's pizza and somehow a little Caesars is delivered. You
don't know how it got there. It's definitely not what
you asked for. It's clearly not what you were promised.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
But it's pizza, so you'll eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
This is kind of how I feel about the UFC
White House card. But without further ado here it is
drum roll please okay, UFC Freedom two fifty, and honestly,
this isn't a bad card. Okay, because you have Illiott
Suporia versus Justin Gates you for the World Lightweight Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I have my problems there, but okay, champion versus Interim Champion,
do your deal.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Then the co main event Alex Prayra versus Surreal Gon
for the Interim Heavyweight Championship. Okay, Alex Prera making his
way up to heavyweight. We knew this was coming when
he dropped the strap at two five Cereal gone.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
I have my problems with it. We'll come back to
it in a second. But shot O'Malley versus Amon's Hobby.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Okay, So hobby on a seven fight win street O'Malley
trying to work his way back into title contention.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Got himself will win needs to add on to it.
But there was another fight that was better, I thought,
and that was easier to make and made the whole
des sense in the world. We'll come back to it
in a second.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Mauricio Hoofi versus Michael Chandler. Okay, decent enough fight. Chandler
been on the shelf for three years calling for Coddor
McGregor and Mauricio Hoofi is a ridiculously talented striker, so
striker versus grappler matchup. But you had a better fight
there as well, so we'll come back to it. Bon
Nickel versus Kyle Dakas. I actually like this fight. People

(01:22:24):
were kind of shitting on this one. I think this
is a really cool fight. Bon Nickel just got his
win back after the RDR fight. Kyle Dakas is on
like some crazy win streak. He's got three finishes in
the first round of his last three fights. I think
this is gonna be a good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I really do. I think it's another tough test for
bo Nickel.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
They're trying to bring him back up and really get
the hype around his name back. This is the way
you do it, and Kyle Dakas is dangerous fuck. And
then Diego Lopez and Steve Garcia another fun fight, another
good fight on paper, and we'll talk about it in
a second. Ariajwanne called this a nine out of ten.
Matter of fact, let's just go right away to that.
Arieljjwanne says he would legit give this card to nine
out of ten, and I agree with him for all

(01:23:02):
the reasons he's going to talk about here, because what
we have right now is an understanding that what we
get from the UFC will never be what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
It will never be loaded.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Two seventeen cards where there's three title fights and there's
massive names across it, and it's the fights you wanted
to see, not the consolation prize fights that you had
to get because you couldn't get the bigger fights. But
this card, while I do think again, on paper, it's
a fantastic card. To me, there's holes and we'll go
through them real quick. This is why I'm disappointed. Where
the fuck was John Jones? For all intents and purposes,

(01:23:35):
every tease I know, Dana said it to my face
that he didn't he didn't think that John Jones will
be reliable in this spot. And he said to multiple
outlets that he didn't want to make John Jones the
main event because he didn't know if he'd be reliable.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
And yeah, John's got the ithritis and the whole thing.
But Dana has always said things.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
He said a lot of things before and he's ended up,
you know, working us and pulling the wool over our eyes.
But every indication was that this is going to be
John Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Maybe I got work.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
You had John's manager Malki talking about how he stayed
up all night to get a deal done. Coincidentally, Malki
is also the manager for Elliot's Aporia. That's the deal
he was talking about. You heard John Jones talking about
he was in negotiations to be at the White House.
You heard Ariel Hallwane a couple of days ago say
that the UFC indeed was trying to make John Jones
and Alex Pereira that that was their first option, that

(01:24:18):
if it didn't get done, it would be probably Alex
Prera Serrill gone. If John Jones was ever gonna fight again,
this was the card he needed to be. All this
tells me now is that either Dana White Is and Hunter,
Campbell and mcmahonard and Shohn Shelby are sick of dealing
with John Jones and the fact that he turned down
the Tom Aspenal fight they will never get over or
John asked for too much money, or there's no realistic

(01:24:40):
possibility that John Jones ever actually fights again, based off
his injury history, based off the fact that it's been
too far gone, all the combination of factors of him
not going against Tom aspinall and turning down thirty million,
all that after saying he would do it. I think
John Jones is retired, and we'll get confirmation to that
a second in a second from Dana White.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
But that should have been the main event.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
If this is the White House car, I wanted great,
not good, because this is a good car on paper,
this is a good car. But before twenty twenty two,
you would have seen this on any UFC numbered event,
two championship fights, maybe not ordered this way. It probably
would have been Pereira and Gone in the main but
Pereira Taporia massive names. But you could have seen this
in the golden era of MMA, you know, the Conor

(01:25:20):
McGregor era. Sure, But even again, I bring up UFC
two seventeen. That was a three title fight card with
big name Saint Pierre Bisbee car Bramp which, by the way,
he was a star at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
TJ. Dillashaw Rosanama yunis you want to in.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
J check boom boom boom that. Yes, that was a
year in card for Christmas. But still that was a
regular numbered event. This is the white House card and
we were promised great. We were promised the UFC sphere
on steroids, and that's what I wanted. I wanted great,
I wanted John Jones or, I wanted Connor McGregor. They
delivered neither of them. And yeah, I know Taporia is
a big star, but let's be honest, we want to

(01:25:55):
see Taporia fight Armin Seruki. I knew that wasn't realistic
after Gateschie won the intern Bell. I'm fine with the fight.
I think it's gonna be entertaining. I think Taporia is
gonna walk right through Gechee, and that's no disrespect to
Justin Gaigie. He's got heavy, heavy hands, he can crack,
but he will invite to Pooria to do exactly what
Taporia does. He will strike with Taporia the same way.
Charles Lavera struck with him, the same way Max always

(01:26:17):
struck with him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
And when he does, Taporia will.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Absolutely take his chin off his neck. Charles Lavera did
that to Justin, Max did that to Justin. What do
you think the guy that knocked those two dudes out
cold is going to do to Justin? That's the main
event for you. Now, again, it's supposed to be a
card representing and celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of America. Put an American that we actually think can
win in the main event. Why I wanted Jones so bad?

(01:26:42):
Jones Prera was right there. That's why I'm so frustrated
with the co main event. Listen, sirill Gan continues to
get heavyweight champion hip opportunities even though he fucking damn
near ended the career of Tom Aspinall got submitted in
thirty seconds by John and I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
You want to have Pereira go up and try for
that third belt.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
But this is an interim heavyweight championship belt, so you
still then need to go and set up him versus
Tom Aspinall, Sean O'Malley versus Hobby. Why was this not
Sean O'Malley versus Cory Sanhagan. That was the fight to
elite strikers. The winner gets right back into title contention.
I don't know if that makes any level of sense. Again,
Maricio Hoofy versus Michael Chandler, why if you had Chandler

(01:27:21):
on this card, why would you not put Connor McGregor
on it as well? I know there's business reasons for that, right,
Connor sells tickets and therefore you can't have him in
an event that's not gonna sell many tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Because this thing's already gonna sell.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
It's already gonna be massive, because it's on the White
House line, because it's the UFC's Freedom card, because it's
two title fights, because Donald Trump will be there, because
it's you know, America's two hundred fifty that aniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
It's gonna sell. So what you do is you put
Connor on the card behind it to get a double sale.
I understand. But at the same time, now, who.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Does Connor fight? Maybe Nate Diez and listen, I'm all
for that fight. After watching Charles do what he did
for twenty five minutes, I don't want to see Charles
Olavera anywhere near Connor McGregor right now, because they'll do
the same thing. So sure Connor and Nate the next event.
But I'm not even sure Connor comes back now because
it seems like the UFC has been holding.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Him on a leash for years now, and Connor's begging
for a fight. The know, the two fights on the card.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Sure, I'm fine with it, but let's get into this
and why Arel Hajwane calls this a nine out of ten.
I don't necessarily agree with him, but it's not because
this is a nine out of ten for what.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
UFC White House card could have been.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
For a nine out of ten, it is a nine
out of ten for what the UFC is realistically delivering,
realistically wants to and will deliver in the Big twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 10 (01:28:30):
I think this is a very real guard. Like I
said in my video, I give it a nine out
of ten in a vacuum. This is the best pay
per view card that we've gotten in god knows when,
right in terms of the superstars. But it's because the
expectations were put.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Here that some people by the time June fourteenth.

Speaker 10 (01:28:48):
Rolls around, everyone's gonna be going godgy. You've got Ilia
and Alex on the same card, right as Alex trying
to make history, Ilia finally coming back almost a year
to the date of his last fight.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Justin looked great in his last.

Speaker 10 (01:28:59):
Fight, and then you sprinkle in Sean O'Malley and all
these guys like that. Compare that to tonight's card. Compare
that to the Sydney pay per view. Compare that to
January twenty fourth. No, Kayla should have been on this card.
There's two surprises, well not surprises. Kayla should have been
on the card, but she's just on one hundred percent
and that's a bummer. And the Gable Steveson, I was
told that that was that was discussed to have him

(01:29:20):
debut on this card. Two time Olympic gold medalists. Oh
he's not on the card. That would have that would
have been cool.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I agree with Ariel having Gable Steveson come into the
UFC two time Olympic gold medalist wrestler who yeah, has
looked fantastic on the regional circuit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
They're going to try to move him slow. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
But if you couldn't get John Jones, maybe you get
the protege of John Jones and sure Kayla Harrison h
and Amanda Judez Okay, that would have been fine, but
I don't I don't really care that they're not on
the card. The obvious disappointments are the fact that John
Jones and Connor McGregor are nowhere to be seen. The
two biggest names one an American MMA and John Jones,
and two Connor McGregor in the sport nowhere on the

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biggest card, supposedly the biggest card of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
And I agree Ariel.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Says it's the way it was sold to us, but
it's also the way that we've come to look at
the UFC before the last three or four years, was
that they did put on the biggest fights, best versus best,
or the biggest names, biggest events.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
And this will still be a massive event.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
It will be and again, by the time we get
to the event, I'm gonna be going crazy for it
because I want the UFC to do well. I want
these cards to be great. And again I'm pumped to
see fighting, that's why we all watch. But to act
like one just because Gatechie had a fantastic performance in
his last fight, this is gonna be anywhere remotely competitive
if history is to tell us any stories about this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
To Poria and.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Gategee matchup to Porty is gonna eat him alive. And
we also know that Alex Perez fighting maybe the second
or third best heavyweight in the world for a championship
when the heavyweight champion, Tom Aspinall is out and the
guy that beats Surreal Guy in about thirty seconds, John Jones,
is also probably retired.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
So that's just it's a bit of a letdown in
those respects. But I'm with them.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
You have big names on the card and it is
stacked in a similar way to what you used to
see in pay per views from the UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Big name, big name, big name down the list, So
that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
It's just my disappointment resonates with the fact that they
could not and the UFC seems to continue to not
pull the trigger on big former pay per view stars
now there's no pay per view, So maybe that's why
they're like, Okay, we made our seven point seven billion,
We don't need you, and they truly don't. UFC needs
nobody right now. They don't need Connor McGregor, they don't
need John Jones. They don't need Tom aspinall, they don't

(01:31:24):
need Illiots, a Pooria or Alex Perera and they will
be just fine. And that's the sad reality of where
we're at. But here's Ariel talking about the realistic reason
John Jones was not on the card.

Speaker 10 (01:31:33):
I'll tell you this, they did seriously try to have
John Jones on this card.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Well they couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
They couldn't get to the number.

Speaker 10 (01:31:40):
Now, a lot of people are talking about this fight
that fell through. I don't think that that's the fight
that fell through last night. That that's not That's not
what I was told.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
So if Ariel and listen, Ariel's usually pretty on the
money with this reporting. There was a fight last night
that you know, Dano said, oh my god, Hunter's gonna
kill himself.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
They had some fight done and then got pulled.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I don't know what that fight was, because we you know,
Dana had floated the idea of one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven fights. The cart ended up having six. I don't
know what that seventh fight was supposed to be. But
if Alex Prayer was already going to fight Surreal Gone
then John Jones, that wouldn't have been the fight, right like,
unless you had Sirrel Gon in a different fight, which
I don't know if that was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
A you know, any part of the plans.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Some people are online saying it was definitely John, it
was definitely John. I don't think so either, because if
that was the case, who was the other opponent, right
like the who was if Serril Gone was already gonna
be in the car, who was he going to be fighting?

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
I don't know what it was though. I don't know
what that fight would have been. Could it have been
a Gable steveson UFC debut. Could it have been a
Sean Strickland fight. Could it have been But then again, yeah,
Sean Strickle was probably gonna fight for the belt neck,
so that's probably not it. I don't know, truly, Kolbe
Covington maybe I don't know. I have no idea, but regardless,
I mean, it seems like Ariel is hinting at the

(01:32:55):
fact that this was this was close to being done,
and that would make a level of sense because of
what John Jones said, because he was on the the
you know, he did that video talking about he was
in negotiations. But then Dana White, just a couple of
minutes ago, in his press conference right after UFC three
twenty six, said this about John Jones, that it wasn't
ever a real possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Was John ever ever?

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Ever?

Speaker 5 (01:33:15):
Which I told you guys one hundred thousand times, was
John Jones even remotely in my mind to fight at
the White House? I went, I've told you why he wouldn't.
I wouldn't do it. Some guy with you know, metaglasses
on filmed him talking about his hips, that his hips
are so bad. And I don't know if you guys
saw that flag football game where he can barely run.
He's got arthritis and his hips, you know, doctor said

(01:33:36):
he should have hip replacement for that. That, on top
of all the other reasons that I wouldn't. The John
Jones thing is bullshit. I'm not saying they weren't talking
to John Jones and that John Jones wasn't interested in
the fight. And what was even crazier is John Jones
came out and was like, I'm in negotiations right now
for the White House fight after and I had already
sent a text to his lawyer saying never gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Ever, is it fair? To say that j is retired,
this is the end of his time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Yes, okay, So that's one of the most nonsensical answers
I think I've ever heard Dana give, because he essentially,
on one hand says this was never ever a possibility.
John was never gonna be in this card, and then
thirty seconds later is like, well, it doesn't mean that
we weren't talking to him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Doesn't mean there wasn't a negotiation.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Which one was it, because you can't on one hand
say we didn't even consider it and then thirty seconds
later say, well, doesn't mean there weren't conversations. If there
were conversations, that means you guys considered it. I don't
even know what to make of that, because that's just
mind boggling, which maybe he was like on my end,
Dana White, the individual was never gonna let it happen,

(01:34:39):
but Hunter Campbell, mcmahard and John Shelby reached out anyway
to gauge John's interest.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
I don't know what that was.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
That sounds like Dana talking out both sides of his
mouth to cover up the fact that potentially they did
try to make John Jones happen with Alex Pereira and
because either it was going to be a co main
event or because the money wasn't right, which I don't.
I think if John were to fight Perira, gonna bump
it too the main and put to Poory and Gachi
and the comain. Maybe the money wasn't right, Maybe they
couldn't agree to h you know something else. Maybe it

(01:35:07):
was a they wanted John to sign a multiple fight deal.
I don't know, But the whole you know, hip authritis thing,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
I don't think I've ever heard Dana be like, well,
if a guy wants to fight but there's a metaglasses
video of John saying he has hip authritis, then we.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Weren't going to do it. That's that's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I think if John was like, yeah, I'm down, let's
do it. I'll do whatever it takes, then Dana or
you know, Huntering, those guys would have made the fight.
But maybe I still think there's part of this, you know,
him turning down the thirty million to fight Aspell on
the way he did it, where he accepted and then
went back on it. That rubbed Danta the wrong way
so badly, and he doesn't need John Jones anymore, and
he doesn't need Connor McGregor anymore to where he can

(01:35:44):
just go you know what, fuck you? Truly, I think
I think that's what happened. I think he looked at
John and went, you know what, No, you're done. I mean,
he's essentially saying that John's retired right there, and I
don't even know if that's a John decision, which is
even crazier. They might just freeze him out and say, no,
you're not coming back. You had your opportunity, you turned
us down. Now we're turning you down. That's what this
seems like to me, more than John didn't want to do.

(01:36:06):
It is Dana going you're not doing nah, and also
you're not fighting here ever again, and they'll keep him
under contract, so they'll just freeze him out. That's wild,
I mean, And you could say, you know, people are
gonna say, well John deserved it for you know, the
way he he handled the Tom aspinall fight, and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
I can't disagree, but damn I wanted that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Is Cyril Gon and Alex Prearra gonna be a better fight,
maybe because of the stylistic matchup of two high level
strikers and you know, you don't have to worry about
someone getting taken down again. We saw that tonight that
a twenty five minute takedown fest is not the most
entertaining fight to watch. So maybe it's a blessing in
disguise because you're gonna get Alex Pereira doing what he
does best on the feat Sarreal Gon not looking to

(01:36:43):
take anyone downs. He's gonna stay on the feet and
there's gonna be a nice striking exchange back and forth.
So entertainment wise, probably gonna be a better fight. John
probably would have taken Pereira down and subbed him quickly. Yeah,
as an American UFC two point fifty, I wanted an
American in thenate event, and I wanted to star and
fucking stripes to bring it home. And I just I

(01:37:04):
don't know if Gagey can do it. Man, I don't
know anyway. You know, I'm not gonna play this because
it was on the broadcast, but Dana White said, should
Alex Prera win the fight versus Currel Gun, then we'll
figure out what's going on with Tom Aspinall, and it
could be Perera versus Aspinall.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Of course, I mean that that should be the goal.
That's also a mega fight.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
That's also you know why this is won the interim belt,
and two why Alex Prera is coming up for the
main belt.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Whether it was going to be John or Cerel Gun,
whoever won.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
That fight was going to get the tom Asmenal fight next,
And maybe that was a piece of this is like
Dana's like, listen, John, you got to commit to doing
two fights with us if you're gonna come back meeting
this one and should you win another one, And maybe
John didn't want to do that, and that that could
be part of it too, But of course, I mean
that's the fight we all want to see as well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Alex Pereira, tom aspinall.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Do it in London, do it in Cardiff, do it
somewhere in a stadium, and make that fight as big
as it's supposed to be. You got Eddie Hern now
managing Tom aspenall give it the big push. Make this
thing a super star level fight if Alex Purra is
to win, and knowing's surreal Gon though, the way he
likes to spoil the party, he might do it. Man,

(01:38:08):
he might just spoil the whole thing because Pereira's coming
up to heavyweight. This is not a foregone conclusion, Serrill. Gone,
he was tagging with tom Asminall with some shit. You know,
he was very much winning that fight at that point.
And who knows, dude, who knows. Maybe Cyrilla is the
kryptonite for all these heavyweights not named John Jones. Again,
I keep saying it like it's a big you know,
you know, I'm hanging my head here. This is still

(01:38:28):
gonna be a good card. I just I did not
get what I was sold. I did not get delivered
what I bought or what I was going into this
thinking I got.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
So a big part of that is where is Connor McGregor.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Okay, you're not getting John Jones, understand, valid reasoning whatever,
Not really though, because you kind of just double spoke.
What though is going on with Connor McGregor. And here
he was earlier today before the card was announced. This
is on Undisputed or Undefeated and Undisputed with Ian Carroll
and Chill Son and I don't know if this is
their show or not, but shout out to those guys.
They got Conor McGregor on episode one if it is.

(01:39:02):
And here's what he had to say about his return.

Speaker 11 (01:39:04):
You want me in gates and secondary sails. They don't
usually put me on UFC two hundreds so fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
One thing that we miss so badly in the UFC
right now is the passion that Connor McGregor has and
how fire up he is at every at everything he does.
This is just an interview that he's doing, and he
can be talking about you know, the weather outside, and
he's just fired up. But when it comes to fighting,
there's a renewed sense of commitment.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
From Connor McGregor. And this is why I want to
see him back in the case so badly.

Speaker 11 (01:39:33):
Or three hundredths or the sphere. They usually puts me
on uf T two oh one or three oh one,
you know, like a double sail thing that's the White
House was gonna hit them out of watch.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Gives the fuck can we put on it?

Speaker 11 (01:39:45):
And then wheel McGregor out for the second one, so
we doubled our economic take. K can't decide what these
men do, you know, and I don't want to they
you know, I don't doubt them. I just it's like
in this current climates, we're all cattle. Yes, all these
fighters were all I just happened to be a free range.
I'm like, whay you walking around the fucking farm? You

(01:40:06):
want in gates and secondary sense. They don't usually put
me on uf.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
He said, I'm wago walking around the farm and he's
everything he said there, It's correct. The reason you're not
getting Connor McGregor on the White House card, the reason
that we might not get Connor McGregor for a while,
is they want to put the perfect scenario around Connor mcgreger.
I hope that this isn't some weird thing going on
between Dana and Connor as well, because what we're starting
to see in the UFC is they don't have They

(01:40:31):
don't give a about your name, about your draw value,
about anything anymore. With a seven point seven billion dollar
deal they just got from Paramount, they don't need anyone,
and it's clear they're trying to show fighters they don't
need any and I'm hoping that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
What's happening here with Dana and Connor.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
They've always seemed to have a good relationship, but it's
been over the last couple of years, in not even
couple the last five six years, it feels like Connor
has been so frustrated with the lack of activity from
the UFC because they don't want to waste his star power.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
They don't want to diminish his star power.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
They don't want to if they have Connor McGregor that
can still sell tickets at this point because pay per
view's dead, they don't want to throw that away on
some no name fight or some no name fighter. They
still want to get the value that they know Connor
has out of him, which means they're very selective about
where they put him and who they put him against,
especially coming off the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Loss to Poorier and then the leg break as well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
You don't know how many more Connor McGregor fights you have,
but this is pissed or get off the pot time
with him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
He's damn near forty years old. There's no reason to
keep Connor on the shelf anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
I don't care if it's Nate Daz, Jojo Diaz or
Uncle Joey Diaz at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Can we get Connor McGregor a fight.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
I think it will be Nate Diez the third one
if they're going to do it, And it does make
sense what Connor's saying is if they were, they're not
gonna put him on the White House card. There's five
thousand seats or whatever you're gonna want to put him in,
you know, T Mobile Arena or some venue that's got
twenty upwards of twenty thousand seats, and they're doing International
Fight Week the week after the White House card, so

(01:41:57):
it only makes sense that that would be where they
do it. Get Nate dia Is on the phone right
now because I don't want to see Connor and Charles Olivera.
I don't want to see Connor and anyone with any
level of grappling right now. I want to see a
striking match. But here was Connor before we saw what
happened in the main event, and before he was very
critical of Charles Olivera and Max Holloway and Charles's getting

(01:42:19):
the shit into this. He dominated the fight, but for BMF,
that's not what we wanted to see. Here he was
talking about what he wanted to do next.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
Connor, are you gonna do?

Speaker 12 (01:42:25):
I'm gonna do once seventy As you know, I love boy,
you a lot bigger than before. Okay, well we're gonna
offer you these opponent, Yes, no problem, I accept, day
after day after day, no problem. We're sending the contract excellent.
It's a great matchup. That's a great matchup. That's a
great matchup. That's all you ever heard about out of
me and no contract camp.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
And that's kind of where I'm at, still.

Speaker 11 (01:42:46):
Hearing this limbo and on all the My manager is
out there in Las Vegas on Monday, Faith to Faith meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
I hope her ReSpectacle offer comes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Trill.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
I'm not I'm not hardestly good to deal with. I'm
an honest I admire fairness. I'm sure we could get
it done.

Speaker 7 (01:43:04):
And and there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:43:06):
I assume the vibes I'm getting and I don't mind it.
As hal is the BMF had contest which is on
this week, a rematch between Hollyway and olivera.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
Maybe maybe it's me and that for that for the
next one. So we will see and know I was
all taking shape.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
So yes, thank you, yes, thank you. So you see
there from Connor, you know he's getting frustrated, he's getting
frustrated with the lack of activity to to kind of
round this video out. There's a couple of things I
want to and it's just happening live. So I'm updating
you guys. We just saw Connor McGregor talking about you know,
he wants to come back and and it and it.

(01:43:44):
You know, he's saying yes to every contract offer. Here's
Dana White talking about Connor McGregor's return. It's not gonna
be on the White House.

Speaker 9 (01:43:51):
Conor McGregor obviously tweeting a lot today, wasn't very impressed
with the fight, says if they want all spank Charlie
obviously about Charles Oliver.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
Is there any update on Connor McGregory.

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
No, but we we we are definitely talking to Connor obviously,
but there's no like timetable.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
You're just love it, not even close. What would you
think about McGregory versus Olive? Verify?

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
That guy just asked me that two seconds ago. I
thought that's gonna happen. Yeah, we have no uh no
date for Connor right now, not even close.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
So Connor mcgreg what the is happening? How do you
not pry? I mean again, they don't this is it.
This is what I'm saying. They don't need it, they
don't need Connor.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
This is what I'm getting from this is that they
are gonna treat Connor like they treat every other fighter.
He is not special to them anymore, he is not
needed to them anymore. And it's exhausting to hear shit
like this. Dude, Just well, you know we'll figure it out.
You know, we're not even close to something with Connor.
How hard can it be, Connor? Do you want Nate
Diaz for this whatever? And yeah, it probably is a

(01:44:55):
little bit more difficult to deal with. And I don't
even say Connor's more difficult, but the circumstance is more
difficul go to deal with when you give Connor Benn
fifteen million dollars to fight Regius Progray for zoof of
boxing and the biggest draw or one of in the
history of combat sports is under your UFC banner, and
you're probably trying to haggle with him over fifteen mil

(01:45:15):
or whatever he really deserves.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
And now that he's seen Connor bin get that, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Not gonna walk in and fight for ten mil or
fifteen mil, because why would he. He's a ten x
twenty x bigger star than Connor bin is and always
has been.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
So man, this is exhausting to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
And it's all just a big like dick measuring contest
between the UFC Connor McGregor or the UFC and their
fighters and really the people that are I mean, yeah,
the fighters get hurt because they want to be paid
more and they want to, you know, be in these
big time events.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
But really it's the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
The fans are the ones that miss out on these
big time returns, big time fights because UFC just don't
need it, they don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:45:53):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
This was Dana also talking about the fight that fell through.
We just discussed this a second ago.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Can you share with us what the fight was that
fell out?

Speaker 12 (01:46:00):
Not important, Dany you talked about you don't want to
say what fight fell out, which is fair enough, but
there is obviously.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
Well there's weird circumstances around it that we probably shouldn't
talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Can you share with us what the fight was that
fell out?

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
I don't know what that means. Weird circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
They probably shouldn't talk about someone, Yeah, someone potentially legally
in trouble. Could it be Gabel Steveson. Could it be
a Russian? Yeah, someone was getting like the Russian fighter
not allowed at the White House. Could it be a
visa issue? Could it be illegalities? Could it be Hamza
security clearance stuff. He's had trouble getting into the country
before Trump said no to terrorists, Chamaia fighting on the

(01:46:36):
White House lone against Strickland, that that might be the
one that that could be. What it is is that
we'll never hear. But it could have been Hamza Chamaya
of Sean Strickland. But you know, Sean or Chamaya have had,
you know, issues with his connections in Chechnya and the
dictator out there. But yeah, man, uh, the UFC White
House card. I think that's all the information that I

(01:46:58):
have up to date. Yeah, this is air responding to
what Dana said about how it was never closed and
they weren't even considering John Jones for the fight. Ariel
says he quote may never may not have, but the
people who book fights definitely did. Never got close though,
and it wasn't the fight that they fell off. Yeah,
so that this is so weird the way Dana was
talking about it. But yeah, listen there it is the

(01:47:20):
UFC's White House card. Am I being too much of
a cynic to be honest with me?

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Am I am I shitting on it for no reason?
Am I just a quote unquote casual. I mean, this
is the casual concept for expecting the greatest when it
came to them, essentially telling us this was going to
be one of the greatest cards in UFC history.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Or should I have thought less about what the UFC
says and more about what they deliver actions over words.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
And as of the last couple of years, that hasn't
been a congruent lineup from what the UFC says to
what they actually produced. But listen, all in all, compared
to the last couple of years, compared to the last
three or four years, five years, it's not a great one,
but it's a good right Diego Lopez, Steve Garcia, good fight,
Bo Nichol, Kyle Dakis, good fight, Hoofy and Chandler good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
O'Malley is a hobby good fight.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
And then you have the two title fights Interim Heavyweight Championship,
Alex Prera, he's moving up third belt potentially on the line,
interim not the real belt, but you get what I'm saying,
zerril Gon and his brown syndrome potentially gonna infect Alex Ferreira,
who knows watch the ipokes. And then Taporia Gechee at
least we have an American in the main event. I
don't fancy Geige's chances very much. I think Taporia is

(01:48:30):
gonna shut his lights off. But still a fun card,
a good pay per view level card, just not what
we anticipated, not what we were sold with the idea
of this being one of the biggest cards in the
history of the sport. No Connor McGregor, no John Jones,
no Kayla Harrison, no Gable Steveson, Sean Strickland, hamsuch might
have no earth shattering announcement that you thought we were

(01:48:53):
gonna get. And that's why I'm a little disappointed. Again,
maybe I'm being too much of a cynic. I'm still
gonna be excited to watch this card. Apparently they're gonna
do the press conference at the Lincoln Memorial and then
the fights are going to take place on the White
House lawn.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
That in itself is history.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Like Connor mcgerger said, it didn't matter who was on
this card, it was going to be a historic one.
I just wish we would have got a better chance
for an American in the main event. I'll just be honest,
whether that was John Jones, Sean Strickland, or anybody else.

Speaker 7 (01:49:16):
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Thought it would be bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
But you guys let me know what you think down below.
Like I said, it might being a little bit too
much of a sink. Is the UFC telling us what
they're going to be from now on with, you know,
prioritizing business over fights. Honestly, shockingly enough, what Ronda Rousey
said about prioritizing the business in the bottom line over
the biggest fights might be where we're at in the

(01:49:42):
UFC right now. It's sad to say, but it could
be the reality what happens though on UFC two point
fifty The Freedom Card Live from the White House, I
don't have those answers except I think Tomory is gonna
knock out Gae Chee.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
But I guess we'll find out.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
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