THE LONE COSPLAYER

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hi, do you hear me? Hi?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
What's your name?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
My name is Matt.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Matt. When I was a young child's I was I
went to the j c C, the Jewish Community Center
day camp, or maybe I was in kindergarten or something,
and there was a guy who used to work there.
His name was mister Matt, and he had a hook
for a hand. He didn't have a hand, he had

(00:25):
a hook, and he was a cool guy. I don't
think I was a little intimidated by him when I
was a child, because that's just the nature of that. Yeah,
I was a little intimidated by him, But now I'm like, oh,
what a guy to you know, really serve in his community,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, he's a good guy. He might know he's alive.
But what's your name, Matt?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
My name is Matt. Yeah, No, it's good. You can
call me. You can call me Matt or or I
can go by eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like Matt is more pronounceable to me than what you
just said. But Matt, enough, yeah, and enough about all
this fucking bullshit. What's up, man? How's how's life? Would
would you want to talk about today?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I've been I've been trying to talk to you for ages.
I've been listening for a long time. I actually I've
been listening to all the Spotify podcast and I actually
joined the super Cast like maybe a month ago. Yeah,
of course, of course, No, I love your content. No,
I've been trying to call for a long time because like,
the past two months of my life have been a

(01:34):
little chaotic, a little uh, a little eventful, more or less.
I was in a relationship for a really long time
or not not a really long time, like basically up
to a little a little less than two years, and
it ended a little catastrophically where I have a BPD,

(01:54):
so that's like borderline personality disorder. So it's really hard
for me to uh, it's really hard for me to
accept that other people like me and other people want
to be around me and all that kind of stuff.
So it made being friends with my exist friends really tough,
or at least it made it really tough for me
to see that they liked me in the time that
we were in a relationship, and it ended a little

(02:18):
catastrophically where I held a lie from them for a
really long time and once once I told them about
that lie during like a mental health episode. They broke
up with me for good reason, frankly, and then they
reached out to me and asked to try again, and
I was like, yeah, I'm okay, we can do that.

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And when that happened, we both agreed that we would
not see or date other people in the meantime. And
then their best friend told me that, or the best
friend at the time told me that they actually did
go on a date with one of our friends and

(03:00):
did quote unquote something. So that was a little that
was a little a bit of a backstab, and it
made the whole BPD part of the life way more
difficult to push through because it made me feel like
I validated all the facts that the people around me
at that time did not did not enjoy my presence
all that much. Also, work is a little strange. I

(03:21):
work at this it's it's a small company, but it's
going to be maybe larger down the road. But I work.
I work at like an escape room place, and I
fixed the escape rooms. They're kind of like automated escape
rooms where just a bunch of drunk drunk children, No
not children, drunk drunk adults and kids just like break

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shit in random fucking ways, and it's it's pretty miserable,
but you get to see some pretty fun stuff at
times too.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
America's Escape room engineers are some of its most unsung heroes.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, we really are on
the front line. We're we're like, we're like uh ups
delivery guys during COVID. Obviously we're we're on the same tire.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Definitely, definitely add or above that level.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, now, one hundred percent. I think the thing that
I've wanted to talk about the most, because you got
a lot of experience in this, is traveling alone. Sure, sure,
because uh, I've I've my my friend group at home
is a little strange. The ones who are extroverted don't

(04:31):
really like the nerd things all that much, like going
to like conventions or just conventions, I think is probably
the best example. And then all of my introverted friends
don't really want to go out to conventions because of
the whole like overwhelming social aspect and all that kind
of stuff. So it makes me really scared to uh

(04:52):
start the initiative to go out into the into the
world and like visit places alone and try to meet people,
because it feels like, uh, it feels like you receive
a lot of judgment for doing things alone.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, Matt, you I I appreciate all the lore that
you just dropped on yourself. I feel like I got
I feel like I very concisely just learned a lot
about you in a short period of time. Yeah, no,
don't you No, No, no either, But I hope that
didn't come off passive aggressive ily No, do you have

(05:26):
nothing to be sorry for? Wow? Okay, hmmm, how old
are you, Matt?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I'm twenty two. I'm gonna be twenty three next month.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
All right, cool man. Well, would you just graduate school
or you've been just working?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah? I graduated a little while ago, graduated last year.
I'm actually hanging out with my with one of my
old roommates from college, uh, sort of sort of Athena,
and I've been showing I've been showing them a couple
of your clips because I just liked the content.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So I actually, well, yeah, you dropped a lot of lore.
I I I'm super down to talk about. I have
a lot of thoughts about your particular situation about uh
wanting to do stuff alone. But do you I do
you see a real therapist to talk about BPD stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
What do they how what do they have to say
to you?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
How do they help you with that?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's really it's kind of tough. I think the way
that they really helped me with it is it is
clearly seems like they're they're excited to talk to me
as a patient. Like it seems like whenever I show
up in order to talk to him on the days
that they're like excited to hear more about my life,
which that alone is enough to help me at times,

(06:43):
But when it comes to what they tell me, it's
a lot of you need to learn how to appreciate
yourself before you go out to appreciate other people, which
is really tough because I've tried to do that time
and time again, and every single time I end up
more relying on other people for that affection rather than

(07:06):
trying to get it out on my own, which is
why I kind of want to solo travel. But the
same exact thing, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I like, I love I see we're get see. I
like this because you brought up a bunch of stuff
and then you're like, I really want to talk about that.
I want to talk about the solo travel thing, but
then we talk about the other stuff and we find
it all.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
All kind of clicks together.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Clicks together, right, that's cool. Okay, So you're you're kind
of on a mission to you said that the BPD,
and I'm as I think I've made clear, I'm not
a real therapist and have no I don't know anything
about psychology, but like, so BPD is something and that
that is preventing you from like accepting that you have

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like value that other people can find with that that
other people can find value within you.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Is that? Yeah, you know how people like dismiss compliments
sometimes when you give them compliments and stuff. It's like
that that is like a very core mechanic to my lifestyle.
Is if someone I have like an half ro for instance,
and a lot of people will be like, oh yeah,
I love your hair, and I'm like thanks. It kind
of just does its own thing. I don't really do
much to maintain it or anything. But at the same time,

(08:21):
I still do need to accept that people do appreciate
that part about me.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah. Yeah, Is that a problem you've had forever or
is it something you like developed.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I definitely had it for a very long time in
my life, like when my parents used to try to
give me affection, like just say that they love me
and all that kind of stuff. I would say in
my mind or either eventually to them as I got older,
that my parents only say and try to love me

(08:52):
because they are my parents.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's by the you know what's funny is a I A.
That's I mean you by by the fact that you're
self aware of what's going on with you. I think
you logically know that to be true. But be even
if it was true, that's not a bad reason.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Actually, yeah, I know it's not a it's not a
bad reason, but like you know, it's a I also artificial.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well it's it's also I'll actually say this and I'm
hold on, I'm I'm I were veering off track of
I mean, that's all directionally whole. I take back what
I just said. There's no track at all. It's all
one thing. But I mean, your parents don't totally don't
have to love you at all. So that's yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
What I've learned from the show for sure, is that
I YEA, that's what I b that's that's what I
make me. I get have parents that make me a
drug dealer at seventeen years old.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right right, Bro, That's what I was on the phone
with my mom today and I was just going off
on her about like, uh, I was just so grateful
that she, uh, you know, loved me and gave me
the foundation for my life. It's five all. I've also really,
I feel like, learned that from doing this show. So
you know, it's not a given necessarily that your parents

(10:10):
love you. So I don't. I I mean, we could
get into the whole thing of that not being artificial,
but one, yeah, I don't. I don't think that's started
off for show at all because it's just it's not
a given as as you know. But what else does
your therapist tell you about, like the actual logistical process

(10:32):
of building up your self esteem?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh? Man, I don't know if they really have given
me much about that, Like they say to just like
go out and do the things that that I appreciate
the most, Like I I like to make neon signs
or not neon signs. I like to make LED signs,
which I like. I have a I've had a radio

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station or not radio station radio show for a little while,
and I'm making an LED sign of my radio show
logo or my old radio show logo. And then I
also have been making like these little hexagon lights. You
know how people have like those hexagon lights that they
hook up on their walls.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I have a perfect picture of what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes, yeah, I I I have a three D printer,
and I three D print my own and I make
them using LED strips.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And one thing, one thing I've been considering doing as
the whole solo traveling stuff is using the three D
printer to make those LED signs and then selling them
at conventions.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's so cool. I love that idea.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
But it sounds like a lot of effort, sounds like
a lot of dedication and money, and I'm afraid. I'm
really afraid to fail. I feel like it feels like
a waste of my time or like a waste of effort.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Hm hm hm.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
There there's so much I want to talk to you about.
I will, I will, we will, we will get into
the solo traveling part of this, but.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
It takes your time. Do you thing?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
What was I going to say? Interesting? Why do you think?
I mean, I know, why do you think you have
low self esteem?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I feel like I don't really have much of a
character that uh that defines myself as as something in particular,
you know how, you know how it feels like. It
feels like a lot of people in the world have
like that thing that they're good at or that thing
that they do that makes them like who they are.
Like you, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Hexagon lights.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I suppose no, no, no, no, you're good. You're good. I like,
I haven't made much of those hexagon lights, but like
for what I have made of them, I wanna I
want to make more, and I want to do more.
Maybe I can, I can, Maybe I can send you
a text to what.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
It looks like sure sure, sure, sure, sure go ahead.
And some of the you know what I'm actually realizing
also is like I I think and I know this
from like personal like low self esteem ship is like
I am, I am aware that I think when you
go I think when you walk around and you have
low self esteem, people try to Like, you know, people

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naturally want to lift you up. Your friends want to
gass you up. And if you're like you know, if
you're lucky, your friends want to gass you up. In
your parents, the family want to gass you up. But
I think when you have an issue like that, uh,
I mean, external validation helps. Do not fucking get me wrong,
I would, I wouldn't. I don't want to discount that.

(13:31):
But I do think that it's it's a mostly internal issue,
you know, because that's that's literally absolutely is the thing.
I mean, that's what you even said is you're like
I have I have a low view of myself. So
even it doesn't matter how much people are telling me this,
I just can't believe it, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, hmm have you Okay, I guess sent a video
of it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh yeah, hol I'll take a look. Let's see here,
let me did you send it to this phone number?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah? I did.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, all right, I'll take a let me see it
might take a second to oh wait here it is.
Oh that's sick. I love this. Did you find it's
like it's like all rainbowie and ship.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah. You can connect to it with your phone and
everything too.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
You can connect to it with your phone. Yeah, bro, okay, okay,
hold on, I'm putting. I'm literally gonna write this down
because I have a lot I want to talk to
you about. But we need to talk about we need
to talk about. I'm literally making a note we solo
travel I feel like, you know, we're okay, we're gonna
talk about solo traveling and Hexagon business. All right, all right,

(14:49):
putting a pin in those two things. But for now, Yeah,
that looks awesome, putting a pin in those two things.
What have you done, Like, have you done any kind
of like internal work to try to like fix your
self esteem at all?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I've tried, like some some minor stuff. Like a lot
of it is just reaching out to friends that I
haven't that I haven't been contacting all that much. Like
like I mentioned, I'm in New York right now for
the for the weekend, visiting my old roommate, and like
that's that's been a really positive experience. It's been a
great time to talk to the people that I have

(15:29):
definitely lost contact with over time and see that more
people appreciate me than I let on. Then I led
myself on into thinking yeah, But at the same exact time,
it's still like a struggle of like, oh, well, I
can't I can't anchor myself to these people for the
affection that I need at all times in my life.

(15:52):
I need to be able to do that on my own.
And it's really hard to do that on my own
when I'm in the same habitat that I'm in all
the time, like just living at my house, going to
work and just doing all the mundane stuff. It's it's
tough to kind of break the mold of how I
view my own self image. But I've gotten into I've

(16:13):
been getting into a couple of other things, like I've
been getting into Gunda Models and Warhammer Cool.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, also, just so you know what you and I can.
I can only talk about my personal experience. I can
I can talk about my personal experience, and I can
talk about like what I have hunches about what you're
just so you know what you're attempting to do. A

(16:45):
is it extremely worthy thing of you doing with your life?
And b is is not an overnight thing? Is a
thing that take can even take years of like intentional
effort and sometimes just through living life, you know, yeah,

(17:09):
by and what I mean by like and the thing,
the thing being raising your self esteem and changing the
quality of your thoughts and perspectives about yourself and the
world is not an overnight thing. And it's sometimes uh
takes like a combination of like intentional effort and of
just like living your life. It's not gonna be an

(17:31):
overnight thing, but I do think a lot of it
does require Okay, so to go into like the solo
travel ship and the business shit, A lot of it
does require like some form of external evidence of your
own competence. I think is helpful. But even but you could,

(17:53):
even part of me thinks it's like a Yin and
Yang thing and they like for the the the external
validation of your own competence and feeds into your internal
view of yourself. But I don't know. I don't know
if we have to get all fucking I was gonna say,

(18:15):
I don't know if we have to get all capitalist
about it, but maybe we Maybe we do. I don't know.
I'm somewhere in between. But let me ask let me
ask you this. Do you like have you made any
like intentional efforts to like change your thought patterns?

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Actually your podcast has helped a lot with that. Great
Originally I used to be really recently, I think your
last few podcasts episodes have been going into absurdism and nihilism. Yeah,
And I'm trying to I'm trying to reshape my thought
into the the nothing matters in a really depressing way

(18:54):
and being like nothing matters, so what's the point to anything,
and reshaping it into nothing matters, so you should just
try everything. Yeah, that's That's definitely been the biggest mindset
that I'm trying to turn myself around to. I think
the issue is consistency because like the whole thing with
like BPD is that you kind of go through these

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these large mood swings where and in some point of time, uh,
you're going through like hypo manic phases where you feel
like you feel like God almost you, you feel like
you can do anything, and you're some unstoppable force, and
then it all goes crashing and burning down and you're
next thing, you know, you're just sitting alone in your

(19:38):
room thinking about how you, uh, how you should end it,
and uh, it's it's really it's a really hard and
abrupt change where it's it's hard to keep that that
momentum of consistency where you're constantly trying to tell yourself
that the that the effort in uh you're doing does

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matter even if it doesn't work out.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Do you take medication?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah? I do?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Is it hows that work for you? Is it good?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's uh, it's pretty good. It definitely.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I can I say the medication or am I not going.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
To do whatever you want?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I take Quittapoline and Sarah Quill QUI quait tapoline. Yeah,
it's a little weird one.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
That sounds like a Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
It kind of does. That's a good point. Yeah, no,
that one. Uh, quit tapoline is pretty good. That's the
one for BPD. And then and then uh, Sarah Quill
is like kind of yeah, Sarah Quill is kind of
like an energy booster almost.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Sarah Quill actually does sound like a Pokemon, you know,
sind Quill.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, they do, both of them. Do I think quaitapoline
would be more like a water Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Quintapoline sounds like the evolution of Sarah Quill. Like ever,
Quill is like the base one Yeah, a base one
Pokemon and then the the like the level three evolution
is Quintapola.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is that we said quintaboline, Yeah, something like that. I
always butchered the name of it too. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
How long have you been on those?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I've been on it for maybe six eight months. I
started to take it. I had a really bad mental
health episode a little while ago, and I went to
a mental health hospital for I think like a week,
and during that time they got me situated with those

(21:37):
those medications. I think the only downside with quitapoline is
that it makes you really tired. So I have to
take it at I have to take it at night
or no, I'm sorry, I have to take it in
the morning because if I take it at night, I
sleep through alarms and everything.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
But but I guess do you feel a nice difference
pre taking it to post taking it?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know, it's really hard to notice. To be completely honest,
I would like to say yes. But at the same time,
my life has still been kind of a train wreck
and I have a lot of uh. I still have
a lot of internal struggles.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So why is your life a train wreck?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
It feels like it's not actually a train wreck. You know,
I'm building up to be worse than it actually is. Really,
I just kind of catch myself in this dumer mentality
where I'm like, I can't do anything in my situation.
There's nothing I can do to fix this. Like I
feel like I it feels like I missed the train
almost where like the chance to turn my life around

(22:42):
is uh, it's it's I don't I feel like I
missed the opportunity to make things great.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Like I uh yeah, give me some, give me some.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Like some examples, one would be like I wanted to
start like a YouTube channel, but it feels like YouTube
is kind of like gone down in quality or like
getting getting the getting the momentum to build like a
even small audience in a place like that is something
that has been significantly harder to do post COVID. So

(23:19):
feels like that that chance to build something along that
line would be uh impossible because of uh how loud
and oversaturated the like community making scene as I suppose,

(23:39):
like you you you got you got therapy got co
to be popular because of the whole Reddit thing that
was going on through uh through COVID.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
True, yeah, I got, I got. I got lucky with
kind of uh finding that that medium on Reddit. By anyway,
enough about stupid me, but uh that your life is
a train wreck.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
The other thing is like I want to do the
three D printing thing where I three D printed it's
a little uh the hexagons and then make them like
LED signs but on light sits like Etsy actually banned
three D products three D printed products from their platform recently,
mostly because there it mostly because all the three D
printed products that were being sold on there are like garbage.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Have you ever seen like those little like three D
printed dragons?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah? Yeah, you know. You know, here's the thing. What
whether whether or not your market analysis of the things
that you want to do is rooted in truth or
not is not to me, the I guess spiritually interesting

(24:49):
part of the equation. To me, it would be more like, look,
would you be happier knowing you gave it today? Shot not.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I've always thought about that, And that's the thing that
stops me from actually making like the big step into uh,
into doing stuff like that. It uh. It's a lot
of people say like, you succeed as long as you try,
but I feel like that's not necessarily true because you
have to use resources in order to get there in

(25:27):
the first place. You know, Like I use my time,
I use my effort, I use money all those sorts
of things, and those are things that I can't get
back whether I succeed or fail. And if I fail
and I get nothing back from it, then what was
the point of it? All, it's not like it doesn't
feel like I learned some sort of lesson. It feels

(25:47):
like I just kind of fiddled my thumbs and walked
in circles.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, that's that's that. Yeah, that's uh, that's some deep nihilism.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Let's see. Well, okay, let's talk about the solo traveling thing.
Tell me more about that. Where you where are you
trying to solo travel to or like, what are you
trying to do for your solo travels?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I would like to, Uh, I heard a heart con.
I actually kind of want to see if I can
go to hearst con. That stuff sounds really cool.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I think I think we I think we passed the
first one, I think, but I think we got got Yeah,
the next one.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, it's going to be next year, but I'm down.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'll wait next year. Yeah, I'll wait. Definitely there next year,
but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
No, places like that weird weird, like obscure, weird obscured conventions,
Like there's also a love Craft convention HP Lovecraft wasn't
wasn't a good guy, but the community around him is
pretty cool. And then there's also like Comic Con and
all that kind of stuff or Pax East to Pax West.

(26:52):
I've never actually been on the western side of the US.
I've only been in I've only been in New England
more or less my entire life. So I I would
like to go out and explore more of what this
world has. But I feel like I've always locked myself
down to not having the opportunity to either because of
school or money or taking time off work stuff like that.

(27:16):
It feels like, UH, there's a there's a lot of
convention the phrase that the conventions that I would like
to go to. I think the main ones right now
would be like Comic Connor Packs East or Pax West,
and I would like to do stuff like cost playing
all that kind of thing. But UH as UH, there's

(27:38):
two stuff. There's two things to it. Putting the effort
in into UH making a costplay is UH is a
lot of effort, And I feel like I would almost
embarrass myself by going to UH by going to a
convention cost playing alone or the other one is just
like it feels it's impossible to meet people because being

(28:03):
being alone in a situation makes it feel like you
don't have the social acceptance of others. So people would
instantly dismiss you for being like weird or potentially evil,
well potentially evil.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, well, a few counterpoints to that is one, I
think I don't know what the vibe is at at
Pas Easter PEX. Well, I don't really know what the
vibe is that Like, uh, I mean, comic Con is
like a huge, huge, crazy commercial thing. I don't know.
I don't know anything about packs. But like these littler

(28:38):
places like the Lovecraft Con and like Herst Con and
the other shit is like these are specifically places that
people go to because they're weird and because they feel
inherently outcasted by who they are. Like that's the fucking
point is they've inherently create any of these spaces because

(29:01):
they feel the way that you feel. And then the
magic of the space is that all those people who
feel the same way they combine and have this like
niche interest over which to bond, right, And so it
like it's funny. I was laughing a little bit when
you were talking, because it's like the thing you're afraid

(29:23):
of is the point of the thing, you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Saying, Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, And that's what I
try to convince myself of. It's like, do you ever
get lonely when you're when you're traveling around? Like for yeah,
like the one thing that the one thing that I
dread the most is like getting a hotel room, setting

(29:48):
myself up in the hotel room, and then going out
there and then coming back alone.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah sure, yeah, well let's see. Okay, So where are
you trying to go to? Packs?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Frankly anywhere. I haven't had the time to really look
around for what I've wanted to do because this, uh,
this change has been a little abrupt. I've been in
I've been in Rhode Island my whole life, so I
haven't Uh, I haven't really been able to experience experience
all that much when it comes to, uh what the
other states have to offer and what other things there

(30:21):
are to see beyond what I already know about, Like
I would like to know more about some more obscure conventions,
but I don't even know how to hunt them down.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Who do you what do you like? What do you into?
Love Craft?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, now, HV Lovecraft is definitely one of them. Gundam's
another one. Uh. Just a big fan of communities, uh,
like communities around like computer science, Like, uh, how I
explain it? I wish I wish there was a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Second, what what part? What part of the country you
when you're in Rhode Islands.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I'm in Rhode Island. Actually a quick question, would
you ever do a show and profit?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I don't know. I don't want to know much about Providence.
I'm sorry, I'm looking at Okay, the Gundam so I'm looking.
I'm trying to find it. I'm on the computer. I'm
trying to find a thing for you. But well, okay,
you're in Providence. When is like the Providence? Like I
feel like every every like city has their own like oh,

(31:25):
the Liberty City, Anime Convention, Anime and Anime NYC. Here
we go Anime NYC twenty Javit Center, August twenty first,
twenty fourth. So here's the thing, right, Look, So if
I go to Anime NYC, I see they have a discord.
So I'll go in the discord. If I'm you, I'll

(31:46):
go in the discord and then I'll kind of scope
out the culture of the discord and then maybe i'll
make a little post that's like ooh, or even better,
one of two things. One of two things. If I'm you,
I go to the a NYC Discord, I join. I
make a little post. Hey I'm Matt. Here's the stuff

(32:08):
I'm into, Here's what I like, whatever, whatever, I'm going alone.
If anyone wants to meet up, that'd be cool. Blah
blah blah. You make that post, Okay, maybe someone reaches
out to you. But get this, I'm not even on this.
You know what I'm hold on. I'm trying to join it,
but I'm not even on there. And I already know
that without even looking that. There's about one hundred other

(32:31):
people who've made that post already, right, so you could
go in there and hold on, I'm joining the Anime
NYC Discord real quick? Wait are you human? Please confirm
me I'm not a robot. I don't know if I'm
technically a gecko. What the fuck is up with these captures?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Now?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Okay, wants me to drag a thing into a Okay,
we're gonna verify the capture. Uh okay, Well I'm in
the Anime NYC Discord. It's loading and through your birthday?
What the fuck? Hold on? Wait all right, We're fine. No,

(33:13):
I don't want to buy nitro nine team. I was
born in ninth I was born Fuck you May fourth,
nineteen sixty six. Good enough, No, I'm not giving you
my email and password. Just let me look at the
all right, we're here. Look so look at this right,
look at look at this, Look at this meetups in NYC.
Oh introductions, but look at this, look at this this.

(33:38):
I'm literally I'm on the NYC. Dude, here's the thing
I'm on. All right, I'm on the n y the
Anime NYC Official Discord, I'm on the intro. I'm on
the introductions channel on this channel today alone, There's already
been one part, like every single day leading up to
this thing, people are writing down like look at this guy,

(34:02):
not to put him on blast. Hey everyone, my name
is Stephen. I've gone to a few anime conventions. This
will be my first time. I'm doing a lot of
cosplay work with it. I wanted to meet new people
in the area with similar interests. So fucking you know,
fire emoji reacted. Send him a DM. Hey, Steven, I
saw you also like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure where I'm doing

(34:23):
a how what kind of cosplay do you do? You
know what I mean? Like it's just this, it's all,
it's all wait, I'm just, I'm just it's all waiting
for you. And whether it's the Anime NYC thing or
it's the love Craft Convention or whatever. For all the
evil that the internet has done to society, true, I
really mean this, that's done a lot of good too,
in in in this particular aspect. So you just got

(34:48):
to put yourself out there, man, like the potential for
you to if you if because right, if you just
go and you don't put fourth inn the effort to
chat with people on discord beforehand, or go to a
meetup or say hi to someone, then yes, you risk
the debilitating moment, your your your fear coming true of

(35:12):
uh being back home alone in your hotel room. But
you go to you can maximize that. You can hedge
very much against this by going on the discord beforehand,
introducing yourself in the thing, finding little events, finding little

(35:33):
meetups or events at the Lovecraft con where it's you know,
you're because you're not the only you're. You're insane to
think you're the only person going to these things alone.
It's meant for people to convene and get through fucking
and get this. Get this, Matt, because you've you've never
done this before. But what's amazing is once you do this,

(35:55):
the more times you go and you do this, and
the more times you used to like, Oh, I'm gonna
go on the discord, I'm gonna message these people. I'm
gonna oh I oh. I know how to the middle
of a conversation is always easy. It's the beginning and
the end that are tough. I know how to initiate
conversations with people. I know what to, you know whatever.
And also, by the way, as you do this, you're

(36:16):
gonna encounter a lot of people who are assholes. Because
that's just yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
The one thing I'm afraid of.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
And I have a solution, and it's I know what
you mean. Okay, You're gonna encounter a lot of assholes,
and you might get really unlucky. And the first person
you try to talk to you might get really unlucky. Matt.
And you're work, you're at the convention, and you're in
your costume and you're of vulnerable, and you're like, the

(36:44):
first person you go to try to, You're like, you
build up the courage to talk to might be an asshole.
You might get unlucky with that, but they're but the
you just got to learn that you got you. That's
almost the skill in and of itself. So you have
to learn to like brush that off. Like that's that
guy's problem. I don't I put I put forth. I

(37:06):
am at a fucking convention where the point of the
thing is to convene. God damn it, I know I
am not. And even if this guy whatever, he has
his own thing, he doesn't want to convene, I'm gonna
brush that off and I'm gonna find the people who
are there to convene because I know they're there. And

(37:28):
you just have to kind of code your brain to
be you know, understand the the like this is like
how do I say this? The data is on your
side because you need to keep putting yourself out there

(37:51):
and keep trying, and eventually you will find the person
who likes the same anime as you, and then all
of a sudden, maybe that person is like a really cool,
wonderful time is on the other side of you putting
yourself out there and brushing off a few unpleasant people.
It's just there. It's inevitable. I mean, that's why these

(38:12):
fucking things exist, So so I hope you do that
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
And and there's there's just there's just ways to do
it and make it easier for yourself.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, no, you're you're You're definitely not wrong. It's it's
really just like the.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
The mental of it, the mental.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Of it, and the money of it too.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Sure, Yeah, of course, are you like it's hard? Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Uh Sagan, No, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
What were you were saying it's hard?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Oh, it's just like the money of it at all,
is like that's dedicating a lot of effort only for
a chance. Like you know, it's not none of it
is guaranteed, none of it is uh set in stone.
Like there's a lot of groundwork that you can do,
like just what you're explaining. And I've tried stuff like that.
I've I've gone to like meetup, dot com and all
that kind of stuff in order to try to find
like groups in order to get a get connected with.

(39:06):
But it's hard to It feels like it's hard to
make myself be a person that someone else would like
to convene with. Uh. And I I think that's mostly
just because it's in my head, But I strike myself
as a person who is not interesting to other people. Why, uh,

(39:32):
mental illness?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Sure, hmm hmmm mm hmm. Yeah, you know, I know,
I just kind of went off on you about a
lot of like logistical things.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
No, I know your advice is good.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
No, no, no, no, well no, I I I well, I
I went off on you about a lot of logistical things.
But it's funny that you said that because I am
aware that, like, mm, the question is not a logistical one.
It's a mental It's like a it's a mental game.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah. Yeah, Like it's tough to just walk up to
some person that you just don't know and initiate a
conversation because I don't know how to do that without
uh about it coming across as like weird or unsettling.
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
But isn't that the whole point of the anime? Because
you're a cosplayer.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Right, Well, I I want to get into costplaying. I've
done a few things for before COVID, but then obviously
life got in the way with like school and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Isn't that though, Isn't it the whole point of the anime?
Convention is that you go up to someone and you're like,
oh shit, your Junji patoa from uh from from uh
from Nintendo Fiesta and then you and then what that's
the end and then you guys start talking about life,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Is that the whole that's the whole point. That's why
everyone loves Halloween is it's much easier to get laid
because everyone has like, yeah, you know, you have openings
to talk to people more than anywhere any other time
because everyone's wearing these costumes.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
That's not a bad point. Yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
A lot of the yeah, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
A lot of the battle is to a lot of
the battle is just just like turn off your brain
from the negative things that you're telling yourself and to
uh push yourself and go out there anyway, because even
if it's a negative experience, like I like I said before,
even though I shut it down, was like, uh even
if you try, Uh that's enough, Like you won even

(41:38):
if you tried.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
And also the money thing I'm looking because well, okay,
let's i Rhode Island Anime Convention has passed. But yeah,
but like the shit like this exists, like look at this.
So the Rhode Island Anime Convention Facebook group. How many
fucking people are just posting in this Facebook. I mean

(42:04):
there's there's you can probably get away with with doing
ship like this over a weekend without having to spend
a ship ton of money. But again, I I think,
I think, I think the logistics of it is not
the thing as much as it is, like, yeah, the

(42:24):
the mental of it.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, the the the like mental effort of it all.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Hmmm. Man, I don't know. I wish,
I wish, I wish I had, I wish I I
wish I could tell you anything other than like just
a Nike, just do it. I only have my own
personal experience to draw from. But I do know that
people study this ship, and I think it'll probably be

(42:53):
some combination of like it was, some combination of doing
it scared, as they say, and then realizing that it's
not as bad as you thought it was. And again,
I mean you're in like, dude, here's like people by

(43:15):
the way, no know this, Matt, The people posting in
that discord and the people going to these events. There's
people who have probably even probably there's bro there's people
who hate themselves more than you hate yourself with more
social anxiety than you have that are going to these
fucking things. You know.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, that's not wrong.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's not wrong. Do with do with that information what
you will. But yeah, m hmm. I hope you do it.
I really do. I hope you do it.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Okay, I'm going to try to push myself to do
it soon.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I hope you do. And just remember that, please just
promise me that, like if you the the the.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Can I can? I can? I actually steal something from
a from a podcast that I was listening to yesterday
and tell it to you. Okay, I was listening to
this is shout out this Uh, this is this guy
I really like. His name is Naval Robbie Kant. He
talks about it. You know who that is. No, I don't, Okay,
I'm gonna completely steal what he's saying and say it
on my own podcast. Shout out Noval Ravicon, he rocks.

(44:25):
He was talking about like, Okay, so in like all right,
So everything going on with you, I think is like
comes from like social anxiety and ship it comes from
like prehistoric biological conditioning, right, like our biology. Our biology

(44:48):
has not kept up with the modern world that we
live in and in the prehistoric world, when we were
in like tribes and ship, social anxiety was very necessarily
because if you were like like, if you did try
to make friends with someone and they didn't like you

(45:08):
and it didn't work out, you actually were fucked because
you could only there were only like a few people
to talk to or go on a date with or whatever,
and if you were shunned from your tribe, you were
just fucked. You were left out to die, like like,
like everything your social anxiety was signaling to you was
actually correct.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
But there's billions of people now.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
But now we live in the modern world where it
doesn't fucking matter because if you are at this anime
convention and you try to say hi to a guy
and he's you know, shrugs, shrugs, you off, it doesn't matter.
You know, there's you, there's you have infinite infinite iterations

(45:53):
right on which to get it right, and you only
need one you only you can reach. You can go
and talk to like five p and a five of
them are jerks. It doesn't matter because if the sixth
it's like, oh hey, oh cool, oh I love oh
oh wait yo, you made this hexagon thing. This is
fucking cool. Which, by the way, will happen. And you
know you just need that, You just need that to

(46:14):
happen once for your brain to be like, oh shit,
this I I okay, I haven't. I have like evidence
now for myself of what can be if I get
over the the hurdle.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Uh it's true.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
So yeah, dude, I I hope you do it. I
really do. I think. Uh, there's I it's I don't.
I don't like solo traveling as much anymore because it
it's it's intense. But I I think like, if you've
never done it before, the feeling of putting yourself out there,

(46:51):
meeting someone new and having an experience that you didn't
think you could have is great. And it just happens
as a byproduct of having the like courage to put
yourself out there. So I hope. I hope you do it.
You know. And also you're not I only I've only
been talking to you for forty five minutes, but you
present to me as a well put together a person,

(47:15):
you know what I mean. Like if we were having
this conversation and I and I felt off put by you,
Even if I felt off put by you, I still
would say all these things, because even because I gotta
tell you something, Matt, you could be like three hundred
percent crazier you could, Matt, I think you could be
five times as crazy as you actually are and still

(47:38):
make a lot of friends at this anime convention. I
believe that sincerely, you're.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Like, I think it easier.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
You're no, You're no, You're nowhere near past to the
amount of crazy that you have to be to be
unable to make friends at an anime convention.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
That's true. What, Yeah, I just think that, like, if
I was crazier, it would actually be easier to meet
people because it sounds like you're more of an interesting personality.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Well, no, it would be easier. You know, there's like
an optimal level of conscientiousness that a human being can
have because we all know, we all know guys who
are like, have zero conscientiousness and say what they just
say whatever comes to them, and they're like really annoying

(48:29):
and they do they just do shit right, And because
of that they have a lot of people who are
like that guy fucking sucks and is annoying. But also
because of that, they just they end up taking more
chances and they leave they live more interesting lives, and
they are less concerned with how annoying people think they
are because they're just they have low They're not even

(48:51):
thinking about it. They just have no conscientiousness. They're just
hurling themselves into the universe. And that leads people into
into but it also leads them into opportunity. And then
on the opposite side is the guy who just never
says anything to anyone who takes any chances ever, because oh,
because there might be danger. Right, You don't want to

(49:13):
be that guy either, So you want to You want
the you want and I think you're actually the I
just from talking to you. You're you want to aim.
You want to aim somewhere in the middle where you're
conscientious enough that you're not like being a complete uh
insane person, but you're not too conscientious that you're never
putting yourself out there at all. You want to be

(49:34):
somewhere acutely in the middle. You want to be somewhere
acutely in the middle, edging towards a lack of conscientiousness.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Possibly, Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think it's better
to be on the lack of conscientiousness, better to.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Be on the lack of conscience too. Much at least
for you, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
For better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well better for you, maybe not better for society though.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Know yeah, well yeah, yeah, people people.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
On the people who lack conscientiousness of any kind. They
they live, they they personally do well and then fuck
fuck up a bunch of shit. But who can who there, Whoker,
we're talking about anime codvention, not you know who gives
a ship? Matt? Are you still there?

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, I'm still here.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
How do you feel about this conversation?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I'm I'm pretty happy with it. I'm I'm glad I
was able to finally reach out to you. I I've
called a bunch of times over the last i think
like maybe two years, so this is the first call
that I've actually gotten in on which I'm I'm so
happy about to be honest.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, I hope you do it. Please if you go, Please,
if you do this and it works out, send me
a send me a thing anywhere I look at stuff.
Send me like an Instagram. I don't actually I don't
look at the text on this phone number. But send
me like an Instagram or ah, I mean, Instagram is
probably the best way to do it. But if I

(51:03):
got a message from you that was like, oh, I
went to uh piss con and I made a bunch
of pissed friends, I'd be like, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah. No, I'm gonna I'm gonna try, and I'm gonna
try to update you on what happens. Okay, see what
See how this changes the course of my life in
the future.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Okay, please do If you try and someone's kind of
dismissive of you, please try again.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, it's gonna be hard to do.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
In fact, go into it with the expectation that people
will be pitted. No, actually, don't do that. That's a
self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
But I feel like that's what we're trying to avoid.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
In fact, that is actually absolutely what we're trying to avoid. Yeah,
you strike me as a smart guy.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
You should you should really, Yeah, you should go for it?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I think that's uh, I think that's kind of what
I need.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Good man. I wonder what happened to that guy with
the hook. I don't know what he's doing now, I remember,
I don't I'm actually got let me look him up.
I remember his I'm not gonna say his name on
the podcast. But I actually do remember his name. Let's
see what happened to him. You want to sit on
the line with me, Well, I see what happened to him?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Hold on, yeah, no, no, no, absolutely?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Uh wait, maybe I don't remember his name. Hold on?
Do I fuck?

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Here wait do I No? No, I don't remember. And
I can't just search guy with a hook because I don't.
That's not gonna work.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
There's a lot of guys with hooks.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
There's a lot of guys with hooks. Yeah, hold on, wait,
that's his fucking I'm trying to say is I'm trying
to not say his name? Okay, fuck it, we never
you know what, Let's just assume he's dead. No, he's
I mean, he's probably not dead. He's probably he's old.
That's a good enough that's a good enough. That's a
good enough answer for me as to what happened.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
When when you're old, you're already dead.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Kind of that's not true. You're the opposite of dead,
you're alive.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
True. I guess it's fair. I think it's I think
it's more like you. You you don't have the ability
to go out and do as much. You know, I'm
like I'm I'm gonna be twenty three, and I'm gonna
be really afraid of when my frontal lobe develops.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Matt, I only from personal experience. About a month ago,
about two months ago, I decided that there was no
point in ever exercising again because I was just gonna
die anyway, like severely lost and not. I only I
only I don't want to be like toxic positivity or
really do I. I just I just only have my

(53:48):
own personal experience with existential nihilism to draw off of.
And I truly I felt as though there was no
point in like exercising because I was just gonna die anyway.
Way It's and now I'm like, that's insane. I don't
I have all I have all the same information that
I had then, but I just don't. I just feel

(54:12):
life makes it. I just I never I thought I
thought I was gonna die. I didn't think I would
be able to get out of that. And not that
my personal experience is gonna reflect yours. But I guess
I just think that from from my own perspective. Since
I thought I was gonna die and I didn't, it
wasn't gonna whw ever change and now I like, when
I hear somebody else in it, I'm like, well, okay,

(54:34):
maybe they'll have things will work out for them too.
So I can only again, I only have my own experience.
But I hope you go to the the furry con
or whatever it is you want to do.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
And I would not mind going to a furry con.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Go to a fucking furry Knes guarantee you're gonna be that.
You're not gonna be the only person there that hates themselves.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
M hm, that's true. There's a lot of people that
hte themselves in this age.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Matt. Is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer before we go?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Uh? I want to say, I love your content, love
what you do for everybody here. I think you're really
good for putting into perspective how I don't want to
say how life could be worse, but how how how
everything is a matter of perspective.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I hope.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
So, I hope so that, And pay attention to who
says bless you when you sneeze.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Pay attention to who says bless you when you sneeze? Yeah,
what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
That's it? No, there's nothing else to it. That's just it.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
All right, Well, good luck, Matt, give me, give me
a ups you.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
All right, all right? Thanks wild later.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I'm in, by the way, I I have to, I
have to vehemently disagree with Matt's statement. Notice, who says
bless you when you sneeze? That's just that's that's a
psychopathic thing to do. Don't do that, I I I
that's I think that's a crazy thing to do. I mean,

(56:15):
I know what it means. It's like take stock of
like who's watching out? But even even I don't, I don't.
I'm I think keeping score is not a good idea.
I think it's bad for the soul to keep score
in a in an abstract sense, I think it's bad

(56:36):
for the soul. So I don't. I don't agree to
pay attention to who says bless you when they see.
Imagine you're in a fucking argument with your wife and
you're like, well you didn't say bless you when I sneeze.
It's like, are you crazy? I think keeping score only
I'm trying to think of in my life when I've

(56:57):
kept score. I definitely have of I totally have kept scoring.
I think it's a natural thing. To keep score, but
I don't. I don't know if it's done good things
for me, So I don't know. Maybe I'm gonna go
to a furrykidvit I have an idea for a video
I want to I think I have an idea for
a I'm working on the the Tijuana thing first, and

(57:22):
then I have another thing and then another thing after that,
but then after that, I want to make a video
about people ask Since I've been doing this show, people
have asked me if I'm a furry, and I don't
know how to answer that question. Because I am literally
a man dressed as an animal. Does that make me

(57:46):
a furry? Am I a furry? I think I have
to go talk to furries to figure out if I
technically am a furry. I think gonna make a fun video.
This is a good chance. So this is a good
opportunity for me to uh plug my YouTube channel. Go
follow me on YouTube YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever.

(58:08):
That's the thing, that's the thing I'm the most excited
about in life right now is making these intentional YouTube videos.
So go go check those out. I'm gonna try to
do one a month. I just I was in t one.
I did gonna do that one, have another one one
after that. It's gonna be good. All right. That is
the end of these post call thoughts. Hi. What's your name?

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Hi'o? Rat?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Rat? What's up? Rat? How's life?

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Life is good? Sorry? I also kind of freaking out.
I did not expect to get through.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
I don't have to freak out about anything, Rat, This
is gonna be, This is gonna be perfectly fine.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Beautiful, beautiful. I'm good. I am just living life.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Out in Seattle right now.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Yeah, I don't know, things are a little bit stressful.
I just I feel like I, you know, I completed
college and that was like a big goal and then
moved out here for like a job, and it's like,
well it kind of, you know, now what kind of
had reached all of my goals that I feel like

(59:21):
so far, and it's like, okay, now I'm doing the thing,
and now it's a little bit stressful as having nothing
else for I don't know. I don't want to say
I'm nothing else to look forward to, but you know, m.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
What job did you get?

Speaker 5 (59:40):
I'm a meteorologist? Oh cool, I forecast for the weather
out here?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Oh cool? Well, I guess you have a lot. I
guess you have a lot of weather to look forward to. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Yeah, the weather right here has kind of insane, but
seeing like all the mountains out here is super beautiful.
So so yeah, it's been great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Is that what you wanted to do? Is that was
like one of your big life goals?

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Absolutely? Yeah, I've always been into weather since I was
a kid. I was really into like severe weather and
like tornadoes and everything. We don't get really much tornadoes
out here, but it's still Yeah, definitely achieved that life goal.
So now, uh, you know, I kind of moved out
here because none of my family or friends are out here,

(01:00:30):
but I feel like I've been able to meet some people.
But yeah, pretty much kind of at that now what
stage in life? Been trying to get out there and
kind of do a little bit of the soul driving myself,
I mean just around the area. But yeah, definitely it's
been a little bit rough in that sense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
What the fuck was I gonna say? Yeah? I do
think that having things in life to look forward to
is an important part of like, you know, stability and shit. Well,
I mean I knowess this is a maybe a stupid question,
like what do you want to have to look forward to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
That I feel like is where my problem comes in. Definitely,
like wanting to like travel and like see the world
and that kind of thing, but it's hard because, like
you know, you just get your first job and like
kind of settle down a new area for a bit,
and like I know, in the future I'll be able
to kind of move around jobs and like you know,

(01:01:34):
maybe you just kind of see different places in the world.
But for right now, it's like it seems like that's
like kind of a long term you know, like oh,
by the time I'm old, I want to have done this,
I guess. But I'm also I also have VPD, like
the first color, so a lot of the things is
for me is like the unstable like identity and like

(01:01:56):
sense of self. So it's kind of hard to know exactly,
you know, like you said, like what goals or what
things I want to do with life. That's kind of
where a lot of the struggle comes in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
M hm m hm hm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Yeah. I've been kind of doing some little trips around
Washington's which is so beautiful out here. That's been nice,
but it is kind of rough, like especially kind of
doing a lot of it by myself. You know, it's like,
well I have nobody to share, like, you know, this
beautiful moment with kind of things that's been a little

(01:02:36):
bit hard as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
What what what are you doing to put yourself in
situations where you're around other people.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
I've been going to some uh there's like a little
community like park thing where I went to like a
little pick a ball instruction class and kind of met
some people there. Just kind of trying to do like
little like events and things like at that are going around.
I went to like this one event called like Skip
the Small Talk, and if anybody throughout I think it's

(01:03:08):
just like throughout the US is looking for uh, kind
of a place to meet people. I would definitely recommend that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
That was great.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
I didn't really make any like lasting friendships through that,
but it was awesome experienced. So things like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
That, Well, the lasting friendships that you'll make are are
gonna be like a one off event is cool. I
think it's I think it's like good to do sit
like that, But making lasting friendships is like gonna be
as a result of finding a community that regularly meets
and then showing up there consistently for a period of time,
Like I mean like a like a sport league or

(01:03:42):
an art thing or like like something that you go
to once or twice a week. Yeah, do you have
anything like that? Do you have like a I mean
especially I mean, fuck, you're in Seattle. It's a huge,
major walkable city, the Seattle walkable city.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Yes, I'm like kind of like a little bit outside
of Seattle. I guess I'm not like right in the
downtown area, but i'd say it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
But yeah, there's anything. I mean that's great, right because
I I do you have anything like that? Do you
have like a hobby like a fucking play pinball or
sing or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
I used to be like kind of play an instrument,
So I've been kind of looking into getting back into
that out here. Yeah, I feel like that'd be a
good community to be a part of. But other than that,
I'm trying to get back into sports. I did gymnastics,
but that's not really you know, something kind of be
like on a sports team with or anything. Right now,

(01:04:44):
So trying to look into doing something like that, but
not at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I think that's that's the that's the that's the key
is being part of something that like regularly meets.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Mmma, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
And then also it's not us that you have to
go to something regularly meets. And then when you first
get there and everyone else already knows each other and
you kind of don't, you have to be okay with
feeling uncomfortable for at least the first month that you're
regularly attending. I found that to be the case in
most of the times of my life where I have
been because if you go, if you go there and

(01:05:24):
you're immediately like, oh, fuck all these people and this
is I don't know, this is I feel good by
the way that happens every time, And for me, every
time I've gone to like a fucking I joined a
coworking space, I was doing stand up, I played in
video game tournaments, And every time you show up for
the first time, you're like, I feel so uncomfortable that

(01:05:48):
I don't think I should be here. I don't think
this is it. And you have every time you have
to push yourself past that. In order to feel like
you're part of the gang. You need you need like
a month to solidify yourself, you know, mm hm.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Just keep showing up and kind of trust that it
will work out. Definitely. Yeah, I guess, like I I'm
like wondering like how you would get over that, because
that has definitely been something that I've experienced as well
as like, oh yeah, everybody else here is already way
close with each other and I'm just like, you know,

(01:06:29):
kind of barging on their time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Do you have that thought on the first day?

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Yeah, I don't know, maybe that's just kind of like
a persistent thought that like I'm like, maybe it's just
kind of feeling that welcome kind of thing. But I
feel like, yeah, I've definitely had that on the first day,
and like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
This very natural thought where what was the context? What
was the group?

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
I mean even just kind of going to like the
like the part kind of near me, like they have
like a bunch of like different events and things like
obviously like the little like pick a ball thing was
just kind of like a one off, but like, I
don't know, just kind of trying to be a part
of things here and there. I guess I did kind
of like bounce around between like a couple of different but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
That's which is which is fine, by the way, I mean,
I but that's why I think you should do, right,
is bounce around a bunch of different ship until you
find one that you naturally gravitate yourself towards.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
True true. How was the coworking thing, because I was
kind of looking into doing something like that, especially if
I'm able to be working remote like I do, I
would love to see more of the world and everything,
and I kind of been looking into that a little
bit recently.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Truthfully, it's been one of the best decisions I've made,
uh in in my life recently. It's been great. Okay,
it's been I I yeah, it's it's kind of given
me actually exactly what I needed.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Hmmm. Interesting. Did you kind of like do that like internationally,
Like how was that experience, because it's very intriguing to me.
I know, they're kind of all over the place.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Internationally, Yeah, just like I don't know, there's a lot
like kind of just like within the US and stuff,
but I know there was also like a lot like
France kind of thing, like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I've never I've never been to a cover well I
joined one, you know where I live, but international, I
mean internationally, like you know, I've I've like spent time
in like hostels and uh shit like that that have
kind of similar similar vibes. But what your meet You
work in an office?

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Yes, yeah, there's a lot of like remote work available
with meteorology, but I am in office right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Do you go? You go in five times a week?

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
You talk to people? Are the people of your age there?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Actually, surprisingly there is decent amount of people my age there.
It is a smaller kind of company, so it has
been kind of you know, I do try and make friends.
I talked to a lot of people there. It seems
like it's very work friends, you know, like we kind
of all get along at work and we've flung out
a few times outside of work.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
But you're looking for deeper connections, Yeah, exactly are you?
Are you dating anyone?

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
I am not. I'm not really looking to but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Okay. Feels a little.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Oh go ahead, sorry. It definitely just kind of feels
a little hard, especially like kind of going through those changes,
you know, of leaving college and then I was so
happy that I was able to like move away from home, and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
Not happy that I don't have like my friends and
family here, But you know, it feels like a fresh start,
but it's like I kind of feel like I've lost Yeah. No, no,
it definitely feels a little bit isolating sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
How old are you, I'm twenty three, twenty three, it's
twenty three. Do you live alone?

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Do you have a car?

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
I do have a car.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Do you work in the city.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
I do not know, but I'm close enough to the
city where I can go.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
What time do you get off of work?

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Usually two pm? I'm usually a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Working You can off work at two pm?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Yeah, actually just got off of it ago.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Dude, do do I mean, look, Seattle, this is what
this is kind of what I do. And I just
like when I try to when I'm in feeling feeling
like this, especially in a city like Seattle, it is like, dude,
just go every night of the week, just go do something.
Like there's just shit going on all the time, and

(01:11:00):
there's a lot and by the way, you know, look,
I know, I know money is tight around, but like
there's a lot of shit that's free that you can do,
you know, or cheap. I mean, we had the guy
last episode go to the fucking five dollars basement show.
You know, just like go do go do things. Just

(01:11:20):
go do his When did you move to Seattle?

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
About ten months ago? So I've just kind of settled
down here and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
What what do you have? Do you? Okay? So like
what's the day for you? Like you get off work
at two pm? And then what do you do?

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
Yeah? I do. I have been kind of dealing with
like a little bit of like kind of illness stuff
recently that's kind of sort of blare up. So I
have a lot of like doctor's appointments at the moment.
But usually I try to kind of like go for
like little walks and stuff after work and like kind
of like get any like chore the grocery shopping done,

(01:11:55):
like you know, kind of all have that done during
the work week and then we're weekend focus on more
of like recreation kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
That makes sense?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Sure, sure? And I actually, by the way, the the
frequency actually to me is not as important, Like I know,
I said go out every day of the fucking week.
But like if all you if all you have in
you within your you know, health limitations is twice a
week or once a week, then you know, take you
twice a week or once a week, and you know,

(01:12:25):
do shit. Try to find a community that you're like, Okay,
I like, I like this. I'll go I'll keep going
to this because I mean that's the salt. I think
that's the sauce of life is finding something like that.
And yeah, you feel uncomfortable, and I mean, if you're lucky,
you find a place that just always want some Some

(01:12:45):
communities are more welcoming than others by nature, but even
even the ones that are welcoming, even if, even if
even if you show up to improv night and everyone's like, hey,
what's your name, you still feel a little weird. It's
gonna happen no matter what. But right, you just keep
showing up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Okay, Okay, yeah I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
You go do improv. I go do improv. You can
hang out with a bunch of other a bunch of
crazy people somewhere and there's a bunch of do you
have to participate specifically with.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
The improv because that's I don't have I'm not like
funny like you and a lot of other people are.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Then then fuck improv. Don't go don't go to improv,
to go go to a sewing circle, just anything.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
You know, Okay, I mean, yeah, that's the watch. I
just was always kind of a little bit intimidated that
I'd be you know, dragged up on stage or anything
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
You know, this is I'm gonna sorry, I'm gonna go
on a rant. This is like, I know, we're all
scared that we're gonna like live in the computer forever,
but we're there's you don't have to live in the
computer forever. There's the whole time. There's motherfuck bucks in
places in cities I don't know. I mean, maybe not
even in just cities, but there's people gathering and doing things,

(01:14:08):
and a lot of them doing it, you know, for free,
and it gets out there if you look for it.
So just I hope you look for it. There's people
going to pinball tournaments. You can go to a pinball
there's you can probably go in Seattle. You can go
to a pinball tournament four times a week. Probably.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
That's true. Man, I need to get good at pinball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
No, you don't. You don't have to do anything at
all ever for the rest of your life. That's not true.
I mean, it's it's a little true. It's kind of true.
I don't know what's your name again, Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
I was gonna say, I think some of it does
come up a fear of like I do feel like,
you know, you need to be good at it, Like
how with the improv like Pinball's like, oh, I'm not
good at it. So it's a little bit nerve wracking,
I guess, But I guess you don't have to be
that just a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
But here's here's here's the thing first. The first of all,
the funny thing is is the people who care whether
or not you're good at it. I want to use
stand up as an example, uh because like like in
the stand up comedy community, everyone I think, deep down

(01:15:24):
knows that they're just there to like hang out and
have fun and do the fucking jokes. You know, even
even people who I think even people who do it
professionally and like at a high level. You know, deep down,
we're just all there to like have fun and do
the thing right, you know. And and when no matter

(01:15:47):
what the thing is, it's like the everyone we're just
there to have fun and do the thing, Like who
gives a fuck if you're good at it or not? Like,
you know, I don't know, I don't know where I
don't know where I was going.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
With that, Like that like that, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Okay, we're all with yeah, but wherever we're just everyone's
even the people who are really good, and even the
people who care about the politics of who's good and
who's not deep down are just they're there because if
they weren't, they'd be at home trying really hard not
to uh, not to want to die. You know. It's
when it's a better thing to do is to be

(01:16:22):
out of the house, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
True, this is true. Thank you, appreciate your get wisdom.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Rat. Is there anything else you want to say to
the people of the computer before we go?

Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
I'll share really quick my bacon analogy. I was eating
a salad one day that had bacon and realized, oh,
this is a pretty big piece of bacon for the salad.
And I was like, well, if I was eating like
a blt and there was like, you know, that same
size piece of bacon, I'd be like, oh, it's just
a crumb, that's nothing that compared to what's already on it.

(01:16:59):
So I like to use the bacon analogy to appreciate
that really life is just perspective and maybe that one
piece of bacon may seem big to you, but some
people might be small to them, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,
save our national parks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I like it. See you're rat, thank you. Thanks. I
like things. I like I think you should. I think
it's good to do things. You know what. That's my
that's one of my big that's one of my big Uh.
I'm I'm I know, I'm all like wishy washy on

(01:17:40):
this show. I'm afraid to express opinions. Maybe I'm not.
Maybe that's a lie. That's one of my strong opinions.
I think it's good to do stuff, and there's a
lot of stuff to do, so it's good to do things.
You should go do things. Okay, Hey, Hi, what's your name?

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
I'm Puffy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
How are you puffy? That's a cool name, is uh?
How'd you get the name puffy?

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
You know, just smoking a lot of weed, being chronically
on the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
So yeah, cool, very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Yeah, it's like the Marshmallow guy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Yeah, yeah, like the marshallow guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
What's good with you? Puppy? Pup puffy not puppy. What
would you want to talk about today? If you had
anything that you wanted to talk about today.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
On show? And I'm working, h working, a piece of place. Yeah,
I'm kind of nervous. It's been a while since since
I've been calling. It's been a while since I've been
watching your stream and yeah, I've just been a fan
of you since ship. When did you start on Reddit?
Like five years ago? Dude, it's been quite a journey, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you for hanging in
with me for if. I did not think that this
would keep last thos long, so I thought I appreciate
you hanging in there with me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
No, dude, it's been great. Sorry, let me get to
somewhere a little quieter.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Are you. Are you at the pizza place right now?

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Yeah, I work like right next to the oven, but
I'm in the bathroom now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Oh shit, is it busy? Busy?

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
You know it's getting there. We kind of like passed
the lunch rush. So I'm just kind of, you know,
working on my shores, working on dishes, working on the oven.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Yeah, but I drive, so this might be a short
call because I know you, like, you know, you don't
like people driving.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
I was gonna I'm not keeping you from uh pizza duties,
am I?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
No, No, You're you're not keeping me from pizza duties.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
What's the most uh popular pizza that you guys have?

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Ship? If I give that away, then I'm gonna giveaway
where I work. It's like uh ship right now? Probably
the stuff crust right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
I'm trying. Oh do you work at like a big chain?

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Okay, you don't have to say if this is it?
But I've been I've been uh craving Little Caesars. I
haven't had that in a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Oh you know, before I worked here, I was a
die hard for Little Caesars. Man that They've always been
good to me, and people will talk a lot of
shit on them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Good to you like you used to you used to
work at Little Caesars.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
No, thank goodness, but no, I work for another bigger chain.
But I'm not going to get it away or nothing.
But honestly, I've been wanting to talk to you for
so long, dude. I've been calling since I got like
the courage to start calling, since oh what was her name?

(01:20:48):
Ice cream queen with the ice cream truck.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Yes, I love. I'm not a big I don't you.
Everyone knows. I don't remember like names specifically, but Angela,
I remember her.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Angela, Angela yes, Oh my goodness. Yeah, she's so cool.
And honestly, I've been like getting the courage to call
in because I'm kind of like an introverted person, but
she just seems so happy and content, I guess yeah,
And just I don't know, I just envy people like

(01:21:19):
that man her and uh the Caveman and uh who else?

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Oh my goodness, there's so many people that call into
your show and they're just such cool people, dude, and
so like they seem so content with their lives and everything,
and it's like, how do I do that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Do that you don't want to just piss you off?

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Yes, No, I mean I'm just more envious than anything,
because you know, I've I'm only like twenty five, but
I've been on this journey of trying to, I don't know,
just kind of find myself. I guess I really related
to the last caller as well. I'm not sure if
I have people VPD or anything like that. I haven't

(01:22:02):
really been diagnosed with anything other than like anxiety depression,
you know, the common stuff. But uh, I don't know.
I just related a lot to him, and just like
you know, not knowing if people genuinely like you or
being like afraid to like, you know, put yourself out
there because you don't know, you know, if people are

(01:22:22):
genuine or not. I don't know, But yeah, what's you're like?

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Uh So, if if the previous callers thing was like
doing a solo travel thing, what's do you what's your
uh an anal analogy to that? Do you have like
a thing like that that you're you're trying to do?

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Dude? Honestly, me and my partner were just talking about this,
and we because we kind of feel this similar way
about that. We honestly didn't think that we would make
it this far in life, and so we kind of
don't really like know what to do because we didn't
have such big goals for our life, you know. Honestly,

(01:23:04):
at this point, however, I can make enough money to
just kind of like fuck off and have a have
a place for myself in the woods or something, you know,
be self sufficient in some way. However, I can make
that dream happen, honestly, but I don't know. I've been

(01:23:25):
kind of burnt out of like school or college. But
I know that's probably the most sufficient way that I
could get to that. But I don't know, I'm kind
of scared to go back to school because what if
I drop out again? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
I want to just end those people that are very

(01:23:45):
just steadfast and know what they want and they are
just very sure of themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
It is interesting, I you know, it's I hate being
all fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
I don't. I don't. I don't like this podcast as
like a self helpy, motivationally thing. I'm just kind of
like making observations.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
But like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
The whole idea of like a life is about perspective,
I do. I feel that way when I see people
like when yeah, like that lady Angela Angela with the
ice cream job, it's like she or she's like she
delivers the mail and it's like she just because of

(01:24:31):
the perspective she has on life, she's doing better.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
I mean there's like CEOs of big fucking companies that
make eightyjillion dollars and they're fucking miserable because their brain
perceives life differently, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Right exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
I don't know how one changes their perspective necessarily. I
think that there's like a there's some some something intuitive
has to happen there or maybe it's a drug, or
maybe it's uh just living the nature of living life.
Maybe it's some is some intentional desire to do so,
maybe it is an external factor, maybe it's genetic. I

(01:25:13):
think I've got these these things a lot. I really
really don't know. I mean, what about you. Have you
noticed any shifts in your perspective lately.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Lately? I mean, I don't know. I've lately been getting
kind of tired of my monotonous life. So lately, I
don't know, I've been trying to hit the gym as
much as I can, been trying to uh, you know,
eat healthier, I guess, be more money conscious. You know,
I recently, like well, I stayed in the same chain

(01:25:45):
I've I've been you know, at this pizza chain for
a few years now by those locations and like different
like franchises and shit. So it's been you know, a
bigger influx of money thankfully, or I've been making better money,
so yeah, more money to you know, treat myself instead
of just you know, doing what's best for everyone else,

(01:26:05):
putting everyone else in front of me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
You know, more importantly, what kind of pizza benefits are
we getting on these gigs.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Honestly, it depends on the franchise because the last franchise
I worked for, they really didn't give a shit. If
you know, you took pizza home or whatever, it would
be free. At this place, they're a little bit more
strict than that. You at least need to you know,
put in the system, at least pay a percentage of it,
you know, really at the very end, like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
You have to, like like at the I mean, like
I'm talking like look the very end, closing shift, right,
the pizza is unsellable.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
I mean yeah, I mean, uh, they're gonna throw it
away anyways, So as long as you ask pretty much, hey,
can I take this home or whatever? Or anybody else
have plans for this?

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
And that's fucked up that they make you pay right
the pizza, Right, That's what I mean. Actually, well here's uh,
well let me ask you that like these like you
don't have to tell me again the restaurant you work for,
But like, is the restaurant's kind of like a like
the big chains are still small businesses kind of, right,

(01:27:18):
Isn't that how like franchising.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Works, Yeah, pretty much, it depends on like the city,
the franchisees they have like a good handful of stores
that they just you know, look over, I'll shoot, they're
they're telling me my deliveries ready. But yeah, yeah, it's
more you know, small chained.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Well, listen, I don't want to keep you. Uh, I
would feel I would feel horrible if I knew that
I was taking part in the delaying of any pizza
delivery orders in the world right now. So I'll let you.
I'll let you go do your thing, you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Know, man, I us go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, it's
just been an honor to to talk to you. It's
been again, you know, a journey and to the people
computer just uh, I don't know. Just stay happy, do
things for yourself and you know, focus on your goals.

(01:28:20):
Just live your life pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Steal as much pizza from this place as you possibly
can and feel don't you don't have to feel any
guilt about it, Puffy, I'll take you all the guilt
to me. Eat as much of the fucking place as
pizza as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Exactly, exactly. Thank you so much for taking my call, Aisle.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Yeah, you have a good day YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Bye bye, Puffy, bye three pounds. Fine? How does that?
How does that work with because I know that they're
like they're small businesses. Some of them are right like that,
like like like they pay like a fucking license or something.

(01:29:03):
So I guess if it's a small business, you don't
want to steal the pizza from them. But I don't know,
I want I kind of want pizza. Now, the repeet
goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.
The repe goes to his hide.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
You're just teaching you

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
A loud in the mid of your life, but he's
not really an expert.

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