March 11, 2026 • 55 mins
This Week on TMI, Tamika D. Mallory and Mysonne kick things off celebrating Jazz in the Gardens, the Black Promoters Collective's 30,000-person Miami festival proving Black ownership can do it BIG. They reflect on Breonna Taylor's anniversary, Jesse Jackson's legacy, and why Black leaders deserve both love and accountability.
Mysonne's goes off on the MAGA crowd's silence on war spending, rising gas prices, and food costs, but somehow immigration was the emergency? Tamika weighs in on Michelle Obama's right to protect her peace and NYC's push for a $30 minimum wage.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Mallory and it's your boy my son in general.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
We are your host of TMI.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration, New.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name, New Energy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, what's going on to make a D. Mallory? All
is well?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
All is well and good in the world, I guess.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I mean, you know, we could complain, but sometimes you
just got to be able to thank God for the
good things.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, man, it's a good weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Shout out to my brother Shallby and his partners at
on the BPC for the amazing jazz and the garden
festival that they put on. You know, it was amazing.
Shout out to d Nice. Shout out to who did
I see the Sunshine Anderson? You know they had Glorella
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was out there like this has such It was such
a different variety of age group. So you walk through
the crowd and you'll see someone from twenty to seventy
out there. They had Stephanie Miles, you know, they had Eldubarge.
You know, there was so many different individuals that you
actually love to hear sing and perform, you know, so
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that was a good time. And also shout out to
our brother Ben Crump who had his book event out
there in Florida and Miami Gardens and ron Eisley as well.
You know, it was it just was an amazing time.
So sometimes getting away and being able to be around
that type of energy is dope. So I want to
shout out to the BPC, the Black Promoters Collective, my
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brother Shelby for allowing me the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To be there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Absolutely, and of course counselman Reggie Lyon, Reggie our brother
from another mother, who's really you know, working very hard
to it. I'll showcase Miami Gardens to the rest of
the country.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's a lot of powerful black leadership.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
There and and you know, I appreciate that he is
socially conscious, politically conscious and also trying to increase Miami
Gardens profile by allowing cultural activities to you know, really
shape take shape there. And the fact that they are
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working directly with Black Promoters Collective and not Love Nation
or some other white owned company to produce these concerts
is a testament to the idea that you know, we
as black folks can do big things as well. You know,
it's not just one group of people, which being white folks.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Because sometimes we believe that white people's ice is.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Colder, that they are the only ones that can have
concerts on this scale.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Jazz and the gardens is huge, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
As you say, over thirty thousand people, you know, so
many different artists on each day, food vendors, people able
to showcase all the things that black folks are capable of.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The you know, the businesses.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
We have they're using you know, car services and other
vendors that are black owned businesses.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I mean, it's just, you.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Know, it is an example of what we should be
doing everywhere that we can. And so I'm just, you know,
like you said, grateful to Shelby and his team for
allowing us to participate and to be there. Last year,
I got the key to Jeff to Miami Gardens, which
was incredible in front of thirty thousand mainly black folks.
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And this year, you know, we returned alongside so many
Sabrina Fulton, Trayvon Martin's mother of course, was there, Attorney
Suiyn Robinson who was out here fighting cases left and right,
dealing with the injustice that happens in our community.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You know, just it was it was really good.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So shout out to Black Promoters Collective and the City
of Miami Gardens.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Jazz in the Gardens is a special time.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Don't wait til you know next next year they gonna
be They're gonna have tickets for sale soon, and you
should make sure you jump on it and be a
part of what is not just entertainment but also history.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, and shout out to Luda.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Ludacris had an amazing performance for his twenty fifth anniversary,
so I wanted to shout him out because he always
brings out this level of energy that just sparks the crowd.
And he was the last performer, so that that really
stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
There's so many I don't even know. I'm sorry, I
didn't they cut you off?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, no, I was.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Saying I want to get in trouble for mentioning different people.
But I tell you one thing. You know, Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Mills, she was really, really good.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
She kept that crowd rocking and all of her different songs.
And the Isley brother ron Eisley. I was so excited
to see him performing. And Candy, his wife was you know,
is still his backup singer. It just was a good time.
It's a good family time. A lot of black folks
bumping and grinding out there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I saw them. They was grinding on the husbans and
their wives.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It was definitely a good time. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
In the month of March, it's always it's kind of
like bittersweet for me because March seventh is my father's birthday.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, he's been.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Going for over almost forty years now, you know, and wow,
every time I think about that, it's like, Wow, my daddy.
You know, he was very somebody that was very instrumental
in my life at a very young age. Taught me
a lot of real men lessons at a young age.
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My father was a very strong willed, strong minded prince
about the individual. He dealt with a lot of moral
clauses in manhood. He wondered in still manhood at me.
So it's a lot of things that he taught me
before I was even a teenager that stuck stuck with
me my whole life, you know. And then there's also
March ninth, which is the anniversary of Biggie passing, you know,
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being being murdered. So Biggie was also somebody who was
instrumental in my life as an artist. You know, I
listened to Biggie all the time. His flow, his cadence,
his storytelling ability was something that I always It's one
of the tools that I put into my own toolbox
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as an artist. So he's really one of those artists
that was very influential in me. And it's crazy because
when I when I mentioned it as my favorite artist,
I never mentioned Biggie, But it's crazy that his melodic
Excuse me, it's crazy how his melodic flows were so
influential on me, and I grabbed that tool like it
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was one of the tools that I never had because
I always rapped hard, but the way he put melodies
into hard songs and hard lyrics was something that I grabbed. So,
you know, I think I gotta start making sure people
know how influential Biggie was to my style of hip hop.
And then also, March tenth is my grandson's birthday. You know,
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he turns five, and that's an amazing thing. You know,
this weekend we're gonna go out and celebrate him with
the family. So that's an amazing thing. Just knowing that
I have a five year old grandson. It's a little crazy,
but you know, he's my god Man called me yesterday
and was like, geepop, what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So I'm always grateful, just grateful to be here to
see that you have a grandson, to be able to
see that you have grandchildren. Because that's why it's so
bittersweet for me, because my father was never able to
see none of my kids long enough to see any
of my children. So it's a blessing to see your
grandchildren and then see you know, your legacy go past
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the generation.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Absolutely, legacy matters, and you know you will forever have
you will forever have the continuation of the Lenen name,
Thelenen brand, because you have so many boys and your
family that will keep it going for generation to generation.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I mean, obviously they gotta have somebody to have the
baby with, so that's a fuck.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's the funny, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
But nevertheless, those boys and men will keep the family
name going forever, and so that's a good thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I also want to make.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Sure that we mentioned that March thirteenth is the day
that Breonna Taylor was murdered, and so that you know,
and it's such as the ebbs and flows of life.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You talked about your.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Dad the memories and all of that. So there's the
good and bad of bad and of course Biggie. So
it's such as the ebbs and flows of life. You know,
you think about you talking about your dad and you know,
the great memories, but then of course the very sad
ending of his life, and then Biggie and his contributions
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to your style. But then of course what happened to him.
And then there's of course this beautiful moment that you're
in where your grandson is here, and it's like we
traveled through that because this on the other side, here
we have Brianna Taylor, who was killed brutally on March thirteenth.
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Never got justice for Breonna Taylor. No matter what trials
they had, and no matter what they did in the
courts in terms of the one officer who was convicted,
there still has no been full justice for Breanna Taylor
and also Kenny Walker and their families. And so you know,
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we send our love, our heart felt love to the
entire Louisville community and just to the family in general
of people around the world who took Brianna Taylor and
the fight for her life, the fight for justice for
her on and supported Tamika Palmer and Janiah and all
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of those who have been standing up for Brianna.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They've not ever let that torch die.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And you know, six years later, here we are still
he is still supporting the family, still standing by Brionna
Taylor's family in that community. So I say that, and
then you know, of course, a really unfortunate thing. But again,
the ebbs and flows of light. My mom's stroke will
also happened in the month of March. You know, I
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think Mommy's was on March eighth, and it's such a
sad thing because she lost so much mobility that she
probably will never regain fully. But yet she's still a
very vibrant woman who turned eighty years old last year.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So there's so.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Many things, you know, that we can say about the
ebbs and flows again of life.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So much, so many things, but were here and you know,
and we have to thank God for that blessing of life.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Absolutely, so when we talk about ebbs and flows, that
brings me right to my thought of the day. I'll
tell you, man, Obviously the less week Reverend Jackson was
done well, he was he was sent home to the
ancestors the way that we know he would want.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
To be sent home.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
He had every type of celebration, family, people travel from
all over the world. I watched videos of folks who
said they were from all types of places Africa, people
from everywhere across the country. Of course, people showed up
to honor Reverend Jackson, and this is probably the moment
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where he received the most comprehensive acknowledgement of his fight
for black power. And I think more people had the
opportunity to learn about him through the lens of the
true history versus the distorted media analysis that so many
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of us had been hearing for years and years, which
would have people in your family, friends and others so, oh,
that's just Jesse. He ain't doing nothing, you know, he's
just trying to get money or whatever things that we've heard.
But now what we realized, based upon the so services
that were held from him and the types of people
that showed up, is that Reverend Jackson actually dedicated his
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life to gaining power, economic power, and black power in
general for so many. He opened doors for so many
in the corporate space and in government and politics. He
also was one to broker major international deals to bring
hostages home you know, he gave people a message of hope,
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he ran for president and was a viable candidate, like
all of these things. And now you have presidents who
traveled in to come and sit at his service and
honor him. And that does not happen unless there is
a real contribution.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So what I was thinking about for.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
My thought of the day today, you know, something very
disturbing took place at the servants and that was that
President Barack Obama went through a few people clergy, members
of the clergy who were there at the service that
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he acknowledged and gave respect to, which was great. But
when it came to his pastor, his own pastor from Trinity,
which he was a member of that church for many years,
his whole family, he did not acknowledge Reverend doctor Jeremiah Wright,
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who is a star wars in the black community, a
master theologian, a master teacher, and a mentor to so
many black men and women, but particularly black men who
are members of the clergy or you know, black men
who are leaders. And for the president, the former president,
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to stand in front of him, it's not like he
was out of sight, out of mind. He was in
the church visibly in front of Barack Obama and he
was not mentioned. That sent shockwaves through most of the
circles that I'm in my Facebook.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It has created people who have written.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You know, think pieces and people who really are expressing
why it hurt them. And for folks who may not
know or understand what happened, because you know, the first
question that I would ask, especially if I'm a young person,
is why would he ever do that?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What would be the reason.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Why he would, you know, feel the need to slight
Jeremiah Right, So, when Barack Obama was running for president
in two thousand and eight, old speeches of Jeremiah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Wright were resurfaced.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And I hate when they say they resurfaced, like they
came from nowhere. No, they were resurfaced hur F Bisley
to cause Barack Obama trouble in his election. I mean,
that's the most simple way to say it. It was
to create controversy that would allow some people to you know,
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either pull their support and or make a different decision
and not vote for him. And so those speeches that
were from two thousand and three, two thousand and five,
and this is there's a history of Jeremiah Wright being
very critical of America. And it's funny because at that time,
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one of the main quotes that they used in a speech,
and they ran it on Loop on Fox News and
every other news outlet, was when he said what Jeremiah
Wright said, goddamn America as he was again talking about
America and the ills that we as black people face
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and what this country has put us through.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now, when I.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Say goddamn America, and when and you say goddamn America today,
that is not a controversial statement, not at all. In fact,
people will be like, we know exactly what you mean.
As we go across the waters, we bomb other countries.
And this is not new to Trump, but it has
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even been worse under Donald Trump. As we go out
into the world and bully people, and as we round
up the our our migrant brothers and sisters, as we
disrespect black people, black women, as we have a tax
on diversity, equity, and inclusion which is an absolute assault
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on black people, and a and a and a a
license to discriminate against us. As all of that happens,
there's a million people running around the world who are
probably saying, goddamn a Marria. But because Barack Obama was
running for president of the United States. That was a
particular issue something they were able to use, and it
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caused the president to make a speech.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
This is before he became president.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He did a speech on race relations, which was actually
a very good speech.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And he denounced the use of the term.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know, he he denounced I'm using the word, denounced
the use of the turn goddamn America because again he's
running for president of the country. But that was never
enough of them, them being the powers that be, them
being those people who controlled the media, those people who
controlled the political climate within our nation. It was never
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enough of them. The white supremacist also, who did not
want to see a black man win, and they knew
at that time that Barack Obama was on the he
was on track to become the next president, and they
wanted to stop him. It was never enough for him
to say, I don't agree with that statement. Here's who
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I am, how I will lead. And so what they
did was, you know, they pushed and pushed and pushed
and pushed until the Obamas ended up having to distance
themselves from from Jeremiah Wright and their church. Now we
where have we heard this story before? We've heard this
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story because it also happened to me where there is
a demand for the use of the term denounce, the
word denounced because they know those who are in power.
They know that when you denounce a black leader or
someone who is beloved within the black community, it will
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cause people within your community to denounce you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And they know that, and so they are very specific.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
About wanting to use, wanting to force black people to
use specific terminology to be able to distance, degrade, in
many ways, diminish the value of other Black people. They
will not allow you to say, I don't agree, I
feel differently, let me talk to you about my own
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personal views, because we're not going to always agree. And
so it was very painful as I sat as a
student of history, especially during the time of Obama rising
to become the first black president.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I was involved.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I went out and registered voters and got people to
the polls and help with Obamacare and all of that.
And so I feel and I feel very very hurt
by his omission, his intentional omission of Reverend Jeremiah Right.
But I also and at the same time, which is
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where the difficult tension comes in, I love President Obama,
I love the Obama family, but I can still feel
hurt by what he's done and call him out publicly
about it. And I would say that as I hope.
I think I said my thought of the day, but
I'll say the thought of the day more clearly is.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That we deal all humans.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
With the tension of the balance of what we love
about people and the things that we don't love at all,
and when we have to balance it, it is not
easy for the human spirit to have to reconcile that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
There can be two things happening at once.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
However, we have to be willing to say when something
you're looking.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
At is wrong, to call it out, and.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
To not be afraid to speak truth to power, even
when it is somebody that we may love, right we
and not. That doesn't always mean it has to be
a public announcement, but you have to at least be
able to look at your political your your your political leaders,
people who are in power who make decisions about our lives,
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and to be able to say this that is happening
is wrong. I don't support it. And here is what
I believe about said thing. The problem that I have
today in our society is that I watch people act
like Donald Trump can do no wrong. They can never
ever find anything to say about something that is happening
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that they know is wrong and it's unjust. And so
hopefully what we are all showing right now by having
so many of us who have major platforms to come
out and say that Reverend Jeremiah Right was disrespected and
that President Obama was wrong for what he did, hopefully
that will spread into other sectors of our society where
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people do not feel that they have to be one
hundred percent in support of things that they know are
not right in order for them to be able to
reconcile their political associations.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I pretty much agree with everything that you said, and
I think it's very unfortunate that he would not mention
Jeremiah Right. I think the whole situation is unfortunate. But
what I will say is that we know that in
political discourse, differences, opinions, you know, us who are who
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have been labeled the left, you know, the what do
you call radical, We've always held our political leaders account.
We've always been willing to say, hey, we don't really
like that you did that, we don't really like that
you said that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know, but that's not really a thing a normal
thing on the right.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think in this in this climate, there have been
some who have surprised me and come forward and said, nah,
the things that Trump are doing right now are not
aligned with what it is that I want. You know,
I'm not okay with this. I do not believe this
is right. I don't believe going to wars right. I
don't believe what they did in Gods is right. I
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don't believe these tarots right. Like, there are people who
are who have surprised me and come forward. But I
think we've always had that, you know, we've always had
a moral compass in which we just we don't dis
align with you because you our political or we're part
of the same political structure. I think it gets very
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tricky in s situations where we understand that this moment
right now.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Votes count right.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We we we understand that when you have a certain
platform and your voices has a certain value, that when
you speak that discourse right, that these people strategically utilize
that discourse to say that you don't agree with the
person they don't they sound by it. We're in a
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social media era where you're saying, you know, I don't
agree with President Obama and they'll take that right. It's
just like when we were in this era right now
when people keep talking about Malcolm said he don't like
the Liberals and the Democrats and this and that, but
he also said that the Republicans were no better and
way way less better that he and he always he
also had different, you know, views on both. But people
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will use the sound bites of him talking about the
Liberals and the white Liberals and saying if you're giving
the Liberals your vote, you're chump, and all these things,
and they could constantly use the sound boys, but they
won't listen to the whole you know, the ballot or
the bullet They don't they don't record the whole thing.
So these are the things that we have to be
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very conscious of in these times because we know what
these people are doing. They're taking sound bites and and
and for the most part.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
We don't do that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
We're built on doing it the right way, being honest,
being factual, coming with facts, doing research.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We're not here for sound bites.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
We're not here to mislead you and miseducate you purposely,
and that's their thing. So it's it's it's like a
double ledged sword is yes, we want to call out
our political leaders, but at what time right we?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think we have to use discernment.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I think that like right now us calling out person Obama,
there's no harm in it because President Obama is not
running for anything.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We're not fight he's not fighting.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Against somebody who He's not in a position to where
he can be the president right now. So we like, yeah,
we gotta make sure that we protect President Obama. We're
gonna call him out. We got to figure out how
do we do it. We got to figure out what
time do we do it. We got to figure out
all the things where it is amplified to where it's
not misconstrued and it's not chopped and and screwed to
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where it it negatively affects him to the point where
he loses the steam. Right because just like you was
talking about the whole thing with Jeremiah, right, and you
know this well better than anybody, they will utilize this
moment to destroy you. You know, they will utilize that
the thing that you do and your unwillingness to denounce
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something or say that you don't agree or step away
from something that they have that they have deemed as
disgraceful or they have defamed, and if you stand next
to that, it will diminish and severely hurt your chances.
But I think, I think in this moment as well,
where we have to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
There are a lot of people such.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
As when we look at me and Mandani, when we
look at you know, brother Freddie Haynes, who have been
outspoken on things that normally would be taboo, right, and
now they're being elevated. They're being put in positions to
have power by speaking the truth to power. So we
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have to get behind that momentum right in order for
us to be able to be our one hundred percent
selves and be able to say, hey, I don't stand
with this, but I'm not distancing myself from this individual
because the all around individual is not a bad person
and this is my friend and this is someone that
I value.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
We can disagree on certain issues, we can have this
disagreement on language, we can disagree on a lot of things,
but I don't have to distance myself completely from someone
who I value because you deem them to be unvaluable
or dangerous to you when I know better, because I
have a better understanding in our community has a better understanding,
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and it's all a trick to separate us from our community,
right to have our community look at us as traders
and sellouts because we separated from people that they value.
So we have to just be very strategic in this moment. Yes,
let's call out our political leaders. Let's make sure that
they understand that we're not okay with something. But we
have to understand there's a time and a place, and
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the way that we do it is very, very valuable.
It's important the way that we call out our leaders,
because we cannot give the enemy the fuel to destroy them.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I agree with you, you know, I understand your point,
and you know, quite frankly, I know that you have
to be very intentional about when you speak. Everything you
think doesn't need to be stated, and you have to
be strategic and intentional. However, I also know that one
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of the ways that we lose credibility within our community
and with our people is when they can they know
that the things that you stand for are being violated,
and for you to have no opinion or nothing to
say begins to put you in a category of someone
who can't be trusted and that's something that I'm I'm
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you know, I try to really be be mindful and
careful about because you know, this is this is not about,
you know, whether or not you took a piece of
somebody's bubblegum. This is about how we as a society.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Will either succeed or not.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Hire grandchildren and their children will precede the conditions that
we left them with. So you know, we're we're. I
can't not challenge may among Donnie. I have generally talked
to him directly to say, hey, this is something that
I see and I think there needs to be further conversation.
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You need to look at a particular angle on a
multitude of things, and that's cool, right, But sometimes you
can have all the opinions in the world directly with
a major, you know, influential figure like a mayor m'm donnie,
But the regular or not regular. I always try to
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be careful with that. But the person at home who
can't get their message across to them is expecting that
you will make a statement that gives them a sense
of being seen and heard, and so to your point,
it has to be balanced properly. But you know, some
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things is just it just can't It just can't not
be said.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It can't not be stated that.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
As much as I want to make sure that Ma'm
Donnie does well, and you know, we want to support
him to ensure that he is a mayor that goes
down in history as one of the best ever in
New York City and across the country, but I also
have to say that it's disappointing that there was no
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black deputy mayor appointed from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So we have to find that balance. And I actually
think that.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
It helps to strengthen the relationships when people know that
you're not doing it to hurt or harm me, but
actually because you are helping to check my blind spots
that I may not be paying attention to. So that's it, you.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Know, that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
No, I definitely agree. Just like I said, it's all
about presentation and perception. We also understand that words are
very important. You know, I've been studying language lately, just
looking at the words that people say and how you
can say the same thing. One sounds attacking and one
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sound was inviting and in love.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
So I think that we we we all have to.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Figure out how do we practice checking our people and
calling them out in love and respectfully to where to
where our enemies can't spin it. Right, that's what that's
what we have to We have to get so strategic
and the fact that we keep our integrity by calling
out things that we know we we don't agree with,
but in the same time, we we say it in
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a way that the enemy can't utilize it against the
people that we actually love. You know, It's just like
it's like my mother used to always say, I don't
care what the fuck we go through in this house,
but and you ain't gonna let nobody beat up on
your brother and sister in the street.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
My sister used to get on my nerves.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But when we got when we was in front of
the people, even though I said, Okay, I understand what
you're saying, but y'all can't do nothing to my sister. Yeah,
you might be right, but that's so there has to
be that that level of stands. Yeah, I don't really
agree with all that, and I understand what you're saying,
but this is my sister.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So we need you to understand. I'm not on you aside.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I understand what you're saying, and you might have a point,
but the minute you'll touch my sister. The point gonna
go out the window and we're gonna tear this motherfucker up.
And I think that that's that's what we have to
get more season that doing as a party and as
a people black people in general.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There's nothing I can add to that.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know, it means be intentional, be strategic, and think
before you speak.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
And that's the reason why I want to go back
and listen to Jesse Junior's remarks the day after his
father's funeral, you know, in regards to the President's not
knowing his father and you know, this this instance of
not being a sellout and things of that nature and
politics and all, and it just I want to listen
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to it because the way I heard it is being framed,
it just was something that it was one of those
moments for me. It was like, Nah, we can't do
this in front of these people.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It was one of those moments to where I could
see Michelle Obama saying, this is why I ain't go
to that funeral.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And that's when I when I listened.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
To that, because I have, once again, I have not
heard the full context, and there are people who actually
respect that are saying, no, you have to listen to
the full context, because it wasn't you know, attacking them.
It was it was in a broader spectrum of you know,
their father from what people knew of him and what
he knows of him. So I want to listen. But
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I'm just saying, if you just take that piece right there,
it just it just kind of diminished the value of
what people brought. And if you didn't want them people
to speak, if the family wasn't comfortable and didn't think,
you know, the messages that they would have.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Would have reflected them. I would respect that, and I
would respect it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
If he'd have went and and and went to them
and said something about it. But once again, this is
us airing our laundry out to the public for them
to utilize it against us, you know, And I say,
I know if Michelle Obama was listening to that and
she heard this that she said, that's why I don't
go out to these people's events, man, because you.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Know it, it wasn't an event. It wasn't an event.
It was a service.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And it is definitely noticeable that she wasn't there. But
just like such as life for us, and of course
I don't know anything about anything.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I am not speaking as a person in the know.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Ain't nobody told me.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I didn't ask anyone why she wasn't there, and they
wouldn't have told me anyway, because she ain't you know,
that ain't my home girl.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I'm just a person who was speculating what they call it.
I'm a podcast bro right now, just giving my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It's noticeable that she wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I think as a grown ass woman, she had the
right to make the decision to say I should or
should not go if.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
She wanted to be there.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Short of her maybe you know, having some type of
minor surgery or having some other life changing or you know,
a very important life event, she could have been there
if that's what she wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
But she wasn't, and it is noticeable.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
And I think Michelle probably has reached the place in
her life where she's just decided that I don't have
to go to spaces and do things that I'm not
necessarily either comfortable with or that I just thought I
think makes me fake. You know, she just has reached
that point. She did that because of course, as the
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first lady a lot of decisions are made for you,
even your husband decisions or things that he has no
choice but to do. You have to support it because
your job is in many ways, to be a very strong,
powerful wingman.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That is your job. And so she's she has.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Lived through campaigning for president all the way to living
as first Lady as and even even coming out of
law school and working at a major law firm, and
you know, having all these people working for her, there's
still a certain type of persona that you must maintain
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so that you can maintain your law license. And also,
just as they were rising through the ranks of a strong, presentable,
respectable black family, which is you know, the majority of
black families, it takes a certain amount of pruning.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It takes a certain amount of work.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Right to maintain that even when people are pissing you
off and saying crazy things and disrespecting you. If you
know you have a goal, you have to work towards
that goal with a lot of discipline. And they have
They clearly exhibited that. And I think she probably just
got to the point where she's just like, yo, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Doing it anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
These people are all from Chicago, and the one thing
I could tell you is that while they may look
very refined when they come outside, most black people when
they at home, regardless of whether they the president, the this,
the that doesn't matter. They still kick their shoes off
and talk that same shit that the rest of us
is talking. So if it was ever some beef they
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I know, I can see my mother saying, I ain't
going I mean much love and respect to the man.
I'm gonna find a way to honor him, but I'm
not gonna be able to go sit at the service.
And she's done that a few times. So yes, it
was definitely noticeable. But as a grown woman, I think
she made a decision that was for her own mental health.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
No, and I respect it, you know, especially after seeing that.
I'm like, you know, I just I just want us
to get it together. I just want us to be
more strategic. Man, our enemy is not stronger or smarter
than us. They just outstrategize us. They're out planning us.
They're going into situations with strategy over emotions. You know,
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they're actually trying to get victories. We have been content
with moral victories, and that's what I keep saying. Were
comfortable with our leaders dying at thirty with nothing. You know,
as long as they stood on the soapbox and said
black power, you know, they didn't they didn't go into
They weren't able to get into the institutions and transform
them and create the institutions for black power. But we
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just wanted them to say it loud and be able
to be seen coming. You know, we celebrate, you know,
the person that dies in the middle of the street,
that runs towards the bullets, and we call it bravery.
And I don't want to call that bravery though, I
want to call that not being strategic.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
You know, as much as I.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Love a lot of our fallen heroes and leaders, they
just ran into setting depth to certain death rather and
I don't want us to do that no more. We
passed that, we've done all of those things. We've done
everything possible to show that we brave and we love
our people. But now we have to get strategic to
where we get resources, we get opportunities, we get positioned
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to where we empowering our people to were able to
call the plays and we no longer need these people.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So that's where I think we have to graduate too.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
At this point, I think we've done everything else except
for that property. So that brings me to my I
don't get it, you know. And I've been just watching
the state of America right and there's so many different
conversations about the economy, you know, this whole thing about
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immigration and how the immigrants are taking away resources and
they're using taxpayers money, and everything is about taxpayers money,
and we want America to be great.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
And how we want to America first.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know, everyone who is the big Maga fans was
America first, and we don't want this, and we want
everything to be about America. And now we're in a
moment where nothing is about America right. So for my
I don't get it. I don't get how all the
America first Maga people who are so angry at the
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immigrants and the illegals as they called them, and they
were so worried about Ukraine, and you know, us supporting
Ukraine don't have any voice for what's going on inside
of the Middle East right now, what's going on inside
of Iran. When it said we're spending about a billion
dollars a day on war, that's coming from the taxpayers money.
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No gas prices arising to record numbers, the stock markets
in shambles. You know, food prices are going out out
the roof. There's nothing positive, and it's going and we're
losing taxpayers money.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
But everybody was so loud about getting the immigrants out
of here, right, and they haven't cost a fraction of
what this war is costing us, what Donald Trump's coursing
us with tariffs.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
You know, how the stock market is, how the gas
is raising, how food press and how inflation is constantly rising.
I don't understand how anybody doesn't see that we've lost
way more with everything outside of immigration, and this is
a main focus. It's so many people that I see
on my page. Get the immigrants out. You know, we
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was worried about men and women's bathroom. Like, none of
that shit directly impacts your life. None of that shit,
whether immigrant is here or not, nothing has ever changed
from my life. No, They've been deployed immigrants for years.
They said Obama was the deporter in chief, that he
deported more immigrants than anybody.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
It never changed my life.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I didn't get any more money, I didn't get any
more opportunities because immigrants wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I just never seen how immigration changed my life. How
it directly me?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So how do people who are directly impacted by what's
going on in Iran right now?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
We are directly impacted.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
If you got a car, if you got a shot
for groceries, if you living day to day, then you
understand that these things are directly impacting our life. You
can't even travel where you want this travel. They're taking
people off planes. They completely shut Jet Blue down the
other day, saying nobody can get on the Jet Blue
plane anywhere. They're bombing Dubad like this is serious. These
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things are really affecting everyday individuals' lives. But y'all was
focused on immigration, and now nobody's saying anything. And either
if you either either you're not saying nothing or you're
saying you supported, Yeah, we the Iranians are happy. Why
do you can if Irnnians are happy when Americans ain't happy?
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Don't understand that you're telling me Iranians in the street
they saying trumpet this. But before y'all didn't want no
new wars and y'all didn't want y'all wanted America first.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Now you're telling me how happy the Iranians are.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You gotta make it make sense for me, because nothing
is happy about my life right now. Resources are severely
being taken away from our communities, We living in levels
of fair that's terrorist threats, all types of things happening
in our community. And you telling me that the Iranians
are happy because we bombing and spending a billion dollars
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a day in a war that we shouldn't even be in.
I just don't get it. I just I don't get
when they keep saying this has this trunk derangement syndrome.
It's Trump delusion syndrome, because these people are the most
delusional people that you will ever see in life. Y'all
was worried about Mandanni giving free busses people who live
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inside the city who have to work every day. Y'all
was worried about Mondannie building grocery stores public grocery stores
to give people who don't have food.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Those things bother y'all so much because billionaires might have
to pay a couple of more dollars in taxes. But
it don't bother you that we send in billions of
dollars in taxpayer money to fund a war that we
shouldn't even be in.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
But make this shit make sense to me.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You talking about America first, but you telling me how
happy the Iarnians is, but you ain't thinking how happy
the New Yorkers would be if they didn't have to
pay for a bus, if they could get to work,
because you know, most of these people are barely making
livable wages, so that little three fifty seven dollars a
day that they don't have to pay can go towards food.
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And these are people who live in America. These are Americans.
These are people who are from where we're from. And
we are mad because people inside America want to do
things to help the average every day American. But we
celebrate that Irnians is happy because we bombed and kill
people in the school. Girls in the school. One hundred
and fifty seven died in the school and were happy
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that the Iranians is happy that that happened.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And they and they and they weren't and they weren't.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
And you know the reality is that we're saying that
we don't.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
We were trying.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
And the reality is that Donald Trump said he had
a hunch based upon fact that he thought we might
be attacked.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And so I guess the way.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
To protect us from being attacked is to kill children,
young girls. That's a perfect solution, nine for a nine.
I tell you, you know, it's it's actually pretty sad. He
was talking about Mam Donnie, and he is now going
to based upon news reports, they are going to pretend
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to present to the city council a plan for thirty dollars.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
An our minimum wage.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
So the increase would be fifteen more dollars, which I
think the state is, uh, yeah, the state is fifteen,
So it would be thirty more dollars.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I mean, excuse me. It would be.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
Fifteen more dollars or a total of thirty dollars as
minimum wage in New York City. And that is going
before the city Council. I don't know if it will
happen or not likely. You know, folks will make the
case that is too high of a jump.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
We can't do it. Let's go into maybe the twenties.
But the reason why.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
I think he is so politically smart is that during
the major blizzards, he paid or the city sanitation Department
of Sanitation paid the removers, the snow removers thirty dollars
an hour, and people were able to walk off the street,
and provided that they were, you know, not wanted anywhere
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they would be, they got those jobs to shovel snow.
It's funny because I saw a lot of older people
out there sometimes you know our folks, the younger folks,
I don't know about us, but any that's neither in
or there, you know, they they made that type.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Of money to do the snow removal. So it showed one.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
That it was effective, right because people were saying across
the city, I did see a difference. It may not
have been perfect because it was a blizzard, and so
we always this is New York, We're gonna have some snow.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
But people know that the process was. It worked.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
It worked in a lot of ways, and also it
gave people opportunities put some extra money in folks pocket.
So if we could do that on a one off situation,
imagine being able to have the foresight to create something
like that four hour citizens every single day and to
force those people who are making the money in the
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grocerreet stores, in the department stores, the people who make
massive money and do big deals of it, exchanges of
millions and billions of dollars in the city of New
York to force them to carry the burden of ensuring
that the little people who holds up.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Their entire empire that they're.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Holding it up, that they get some reprieve and maybe
get a pay increase and also some support some services
that allow people not to have to spend their a
little bit of money on transportation and then therefore they
could go.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
By as high ass food.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
That is that that's happening to us in the damn
grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yes, it's you know, it's it's really sad that we
have people who don't want to see everyone just be
able to survive, right, they're really and I never thought
this was like the common thing, but there's really a
large segment of people in the world that enjoy other
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people suffering and think, you know, and think that because
they may be in a better position, may have a
better job, more opportunities, that they somehow better than these individuals.
And if these individuals don't have a job, and you know,
they don't have opportunities and they're not in a position
to be able to thrive and live.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Then they shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
And that mentality, to me is so crazy that there
are people that actually think like that shit, Like why
does it hurt me that someone else is able to survive,
someone that is able to eat good food and not hungry,
not starving, don't you know, don't have to live below poverty?
Like why are there people in this world that have
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this mentality?
Speaker 2 (51:42):
And so many? You know, sometimes it just makes it
really makes me wonder. I just don't even.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Understand how you could think like that, Like I can understand,
like some things is not my concern. You know, there's
certain things I don't agree with, certain things I don't like,
But that's an individual that's they live their life.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It is not imposing upon me.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's not imposing upon someone else's freedoms, someone else's will.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
But the fact that people are so adamantly against just
the average person being able to survive every day, like
they speak down on it, like when you talk about immigration,
the way that people speak with a level of violdness
about someone just because they come from another country and
not even looking at a grand scheme of life. God
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created a whole world, Man decided who can go to
what country? None of us own this world. And if
I'm living in a country or somewhere where I'm not comfortable,
I should be able to migrate to somewhere where I'm
comfortable because God created it that way.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
And because everybody else has, everybody else has.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
And that's what I'm saying. The colonized, this is what
the colonized. The colonizer didn't just go travel to fit
to go where they felt most comfortable. They went and
took other people's land where they were living that they
got rid of them, so that they can own.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
The places where they felt most comfortable.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
They didn't and peace really coexists in cohabitat with other people.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
They took over those countries.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
And well, yes, and and be where I travel.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
You know, we have been to cities all over the world,
and guess what, there's.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Always white folks always, even if it is.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Not a European nation, the white people are always there.
And you know what else, Americans, Americans go in where
they want to go and set up shop, and guess what,
they can go places and get free services.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Shit, we're paying.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
For people in Israel to have health care and education free.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
So what are we talking about? How come they have
more than we have? It just doesn't It doesn't make
sense to me.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
And you know, folks who fall for it, you know,
some of them know exactly what they're doing, and others
it's just that the racism has them blinded.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
But AnyWho, Well, with all of that being said, we've
come to the end of another episode of Tea in
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But let us know what you love, what you hate,
Tell me how you hate me, tell me how you
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Speaker 2 (54:47):
Let us know.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
We don't know why you have to even tell people
what to say.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Sometimes you gotta let people know because I like the
I embrace the hate. When you my Instagram page, it
is so filed, like they said, so many bots over there.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
You just got to learn how to embrace the hate
and use it as fuel.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
Man, but hate, hate I never embrace. I can embrace critique,
but hate I throw that to the wall because.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I know that I need you to.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
I need to feel the hate from you so I
can transform it into love. You know what I'm saying,
because that's what happens when when you when you are
God's work, when you're doing God's work and you want
to God's children, you transform.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Hate into love. Man.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
You know, you take coal and you turn it into
a diamond. That's what I do. I transform the hate
into the love. So listen, I'm not gonna always be
right to meik the marriage and I can always be
wrong with we both always and I mean always, be authentic.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Peace,
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Hey, what's going on to make a D. Mallory? All
is well?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
All is well and good in the world, I guess.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I mean, you know, we could complain, but sometimes you
just got to be able to thank God for the
good things.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, man, it's a good weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Shout out to my brother Shallby and his partners at
on the BPC for the amazing jazz and the garden
festival that they put on. You know, it was amazing.
Shout out to d Nice. Shout out to who did
I see the Sunshine Anderson? You know they had Glorella
(00:55):
was out there like this has such It was such
a different variety of age group. So you walk through
the crowd and you'll see someone from twenty to seventy
out there. They had Stephanie Miles, you know, they had Eldubarge.
You know, there was so many different individuals that you
actually love to hear sing and perform, you know, so
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that was a good time. And also shout out to
our brother Ben Crump who had his book event out
there in Florida and Miami Gardens and ron Eisley as well.
You know, it was it just was an amazing time.
So sometimes getting away and being able to be around
that type of energy is dope. So I want to
shout out to the BPC, the Black Promoters Collective, my
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brother Shelby for allowing me the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To be there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Absolutely, and of course counselman Reggie Lyon, Reggie our brother
from another mother, who's really you know, working very hard
to it. I'll showcase Miami Gardens to the rest of
the country.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's a lot of powerful black leadership.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
There and and you know, I appreciate that he is
socially conscious, politically conscious and also trying to increase Miami
Gardens profile by allowing cultural activities to you know, really
shape take shape there. And the fact that they are
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working directly with Black Promoters Collective and not Love Nation
or some other white owned company to produce these concerts
is a testament to the idea that you know, we
as black folks can do big things as well. You know,
it's not just one group of people, which being white folks.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Because sometimes we believe that white people's ice is.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Colder, that they are the only ones that can have
concerts on this scale.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Jazz and the gardens is huge, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
As you say, over thirty thousand people, you know, so
many different artists on each day, food vendors, people able
to showcase all the things that black folks are capable of.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The you know, the businesses.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
We have they're using you know, car services and other
vendors that are black owned businesses.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I mean, it's just, you.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Know, it is an example of what we should be
doing everywhere that we can. And so I'm just, you know,
like you said, grateful to Shelby and his team for
allowing us to participate and to be there. Last year,
I got the key to Jeff to Miami Gardens, which
was incredible in front of thirty thousand mainly black folks.
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And this year, you know, we returned alongside so many
Sabrina Fulton, Trayvon Martin's mother of course, was there, Attorney
Suiyn Robinson who was out here fighting cases left and right,
dealing with the injustice that happens in our community.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You know, just it was it was really good.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So shout out to Black Promoters Collective and the City
of Miami Gardens.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Jazz in the Gardens is a special time.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Don't wait til you know next next year they gonna
be They're gonna have tickets for sale soon, and you
should make sure you jump on it and be a
part of what is not just entertainment but also history.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, and shout out to Luda.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Ludacris had an amazing performance for his twenty fifth anniversary,
so I wanted to shout him out because he always
brings out this level of energy that just sparks the crowd.
And he was the last performer, so that that really
stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
There's so many I don't even know. I'm sorry, I
didn't they cut you off?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, no, I was.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Saying I want to get in trouble for mentioning different people.
But I tell you one thing. You know, Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Mills, she was really, really good.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
She kept that crowd rocking and all of her different songs.
And the Isley brother ron Eisley. I was so excited
to see him performing. And Candy, his wife was you know,
is still his backup singer. It just was a good time.
It's a good family time. A lot of black folks
bumping and grinding out there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I saw them. They was grinding on the husbans and
their wives.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It was definitely a good time. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
In the month of March, it's always it's kind of
like bittersweet for me because March seventh is my father's birthday.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, he's been.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Going for over almost forty years now, you know, and wow,
every time I think about that, it's like, Wow, my daddy.
You know, he was very somebody that was very instrumental
in my life at a very young age. Taught me
a lot of real men lessons at a young age.
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My father was a very strong willed, strong minded prince
about the individual. He dealt with a lot of moral
clauses in manhood. He wondered in still manhood at me.
So it's a lot of things that he taught me
before I was even a teenager that stuck stuck with
me my whole life, you know. And then there's also
March ninth, which is the anniversary of Biggie passing, you know,
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being being murdered. So Biggie was also somebody who was
instrumental in my life as an artist. You know, I
listened to Biggie all the time. His flow, his cadence,
his storytelling ability was something that I always It's one
of the tools that I put into my own toolbox
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as an artist. So he's really one of those artists
that was very influential in me. And it's crazy because
when I when I mentioned it as my favorite artist,
I never mentioned Biggie, But it's crazy that his melodic
Excuse me, it's crazy how his melodic flows were so
influential on me, and I grabbed that tool like it
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was one of the tools that I never had because
I always rapped hard, but the way he put melodies
into hard songs and hard lyrics was something that I grabbed. So,
you know, I think I gotta start making sure people
know how influential Biggie was to my style of hip hop.
And then also, March tenth is my grandson's birthday. You know,
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he turns five, and that's an amazing thing. You know,
this weekend we're gonna go out and celebrate him with
the family. So that's an amazing thing. Just knowing that
I have a five year old grandson. It's a little crazy,
but you know, he's my god Man called me yesterday
and was like, geepop, what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So I'm always grateful, just grateful to be here to
see that you have a grandson, to be able to
see that you have grandchildren. Because that's why it's so
bittersweet for me, because my father was never able to
see none of my kids long enough to see any
of my children. So it's a blessing to see your
grandchildren and then see you know, your legacy go past
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the generation.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Absolutely, legacy matters, and you know you will forever have
you will forever have the continuation of the Lenen name,
Thelenen brand, because you have so many boys and your
family that will keep it going for generation to generation.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I mean, obviously they gotta have somebody to have the
baby with, so that's a fuck.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's the funny, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
But nevertheless, those boys and men will keep the family
name going forever, and so that's a good thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I also want to make.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Sure that we mentioned that March thirteenth is the day
that Breonna Taylor was murdered, and so that you know,
and it's such as the ebbs and flows of life.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You talked about your.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Dad the memories and all of that. So there's the
good and bad of bad and of course Biggie. So
it's such as the ebbs and flows of life. You know,
you think about you talking about your dad and you know,
the great memories, but then of course the very sad
ending of his life, and then Biggie and his contributions
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to your style. But then of course what happened to him.
And then there's of course this beautiful moment that you're
in where your grandson is here, and it's like we
traveled through that because this on the other side, here
we have Brianna Taylor, who was killed brutally on March thirteenth.
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Never got justice for Breonna Taylor. No matter what trials
they had, and no matter what they did in the
courts in terms of the one officer who was convicted,
there still has no been full justice for Breanna Taylor
and also Kenny Walker and their families. And so you know,
(10:08):
we send our love, our heart felt love to the
entire Louisville community and just to the family in general
of people around the world who took Brianna Taylor and
the fight for her life, the fight for justice for
her on and supported Tamika Palmer and Janiah and all
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of those who have been standing up for Brianna.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They've not ever let that torch die.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And you know, six years later, here we are still
he is still supporting the family, still standing by Brionna
Taylor's family in that community. So I say that, and
then you know, of course, a really unfortunate thing. But again,
the ebbs and flows of light. My mom's stroke will
also happened in the month of March. You know, I
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think Mommy's was on March eighth, and it's such a
sad thing because she lost so much mobility that she
probably will never regain fully. But yet she's still a
very vibrant woman who turned eighty years old last year.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So there's so.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Many things, you know, that we can say about the
ebbs and flows again of life.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So much, so many things, but were here and you know,
and we have to thank God for that blessing of life.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Absolutely, so when we talk about ebbs and flows, that
brings me right to my thought of the day. I'll
tell you, man, Obviously the less week Reverend Jackson was
done well, he was he was sent home to the
ancestors the way that we know he would want.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
To be sent home.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
He had every type of celebration, family, people travel from
all over the world. I watched videos of folks who
said they were from all types of places Africa, people
from everywhere across the country. Of course, people showed up
to honor Reverend Jackson, and this is probably the moment
(12:18):
where he received the most comprehensive acknowledgement of his fight
for black power. And I think more people had the
opportunity to learn about him through the lens of the
true history versus the distorted media analysis that so many
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of us had been hearing for years and years, which
would have people in your family, friends and others so, oh,
that's just Jesse. He ain't doing nothing, you know, he's
just trying to get money or whatever things that we've heard.
But now what we realized, based upon the so services
that were held from him and the types of people
that showed up, is that Reverend Jackson actually dedicated his
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life to gaining power, economic power, and black power in
general for so many. He opened doors for so many
in the corporate space and in government and politics. He
also was one to broker major international deals to bring
hostages home you know, he gave people a message of hope,
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he ran for president and was a viable candidate, like
all of these things. And now you have presidents who
traveled in to come and sit at his service and
honor him. And that does not happen unless there is
a real contribution.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So what I was thinking about for.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
My thought of the day today, you know, something very
disturbing took place at the servants and that was that
President Barack Obama went through a few people clergy, members
of the clergy who were there at the service that
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he acknowledged and gave respect to, which was great. But
when it came to his pastor, his own pastor from Trinity,
which he was a member of that church for many years,
his whole family, he did not acknowledge Reverend doctor Jeremiah Wright,
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who is a star wars in the black community, a
master theologian, a master teacher, and a mentor to so
many black men and women, but particularly black men who
are members of the clergy or you know, black men
who are leaders. And for the president, the former president,
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to stand in front of him, it's not like he
was out of sight, out of mind. He was in
the church visibly in front of Barack Obama and he
was not mentioned. That sent shockwaves through most of the
circles that I'm in my Facebook.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It has created people who have written.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You know, think pieces and people who really are expressing
why it hurt them. And for folks who may not
know or understand what happened, because you know, the first
question that I would ask, especially if I'm a young person,
is why would he ever do that?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What would be the reason.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Why he would, you know, feel the need to slight
Jeremiah Right, So, when Barack Obama was running for president
in two thousand and eight, old speeches of Jeremiah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Wright were resurfaced.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And I hate when they say they resurfaced, like they
came from nowhere. No, they were resurfaced hur F Bisley
to cause Barack Obama trouble in his election. I mean,
that's the most simple way to say it. It was
to create controversy that would allow some people to you know,
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either pull their support and or make a different decision
and not vote for him. And so those speeches that
were from two thousand and three, two thousand and five,
and this is there's a history of Jeremiah Wright being
very critical of America. And it's funny because at that time,
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one of the main quotes that they used in a speech,
and they ran it on Loop on Fox News and
every other news outlet, was when he said what Jeremiah
Wright said, goddamn America as he was again talking about
America and the ills that we as black people face
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and what this country has put us through.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now, when I.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Say goddamn America, and when and you say goddamn America today,
that is not a controversial statement, not at all. In fact,
people will be like, we know exactly what you mean.
As we go across the waters, we bomb other countries.
And this is not new to Trump, but it has
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even been worse under Donald Trump. As we go out
into the world and bully people, and as we round
up the our our migrant brothers and sisters, as we
disrespect black people, black women, as we have a tax
on diversity, equity, and inclusion which is an absolute assault
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on black people, and a and a and a a
license to discriminate against us. As all of that happens,
there's a million people running around the world who are
probably saying, goddamn a Marria. But because Barack Obama was
running for president of the United States. That was a
particular issue something they were able to use, and it
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caused the president to make a speech.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
This is before he became president.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He did a speech on race relations, which was actually
a very good speech.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And he denounced the use of the term.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know, he he denounced I'm using the word, denounced
the use of the turn goddamn America because again he's
running for president of the country. But that was never
enough of them, them being the powers that be, them
being those people who controlled the media, those people who
controlled the political climate within our nation. It was never
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enough of them. The white supremacist also, who did not
want to see a black man win, and they knew
at that time that Barack Obama was on the he
was on track to become the next president, and they
wanted to stop him. It was never enough for him
to say, I don't agree with that statement. Here's who
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I am, how I will lead. And so what they
did was, you know, they pushed and pushed and pushed
and pushed until the Obamas ended up having to distance
themselves from from Jeremiah Wright and their church. Now we
where have we heard this story before? We've heard this
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story because it also happened to me where there is
a demand for the use of the term denounce, the
word denounced because they know those who are in power.
They know that when you denounce a black leader or
someone who is beloved within the black community, it will
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cause people within your community to denounce you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And they know that, and so they are very specific.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
About wanting to use, wanting to force black people to
use specific terminology to be able to distance, degrade, in
many ways, diminish the value of other Black people. They
will not allow you to say, I don't agree, I
feel differently, let me talk to you about my own
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personal views, because we're not going to always agree. And
so it was very painful as I sat as a
student of history, especially during the time of Obama rising
to become the first black president.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I was involved.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I went out and registered voters and got people to
the polls and help with Obamacare and all of that.
And so I feel and I feel very very hurt
by his omission, his intentional omission of Reverend Jeremiah Right.
But I also and at the same time, which is
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where the difficult tension comes in, I love President Obama,
I love the Obama family, but I can still feel
hurt by what he's done and call him out publicly
about it. And I would say that as I hope.
I think I said my thought of the day, but
I'll say the thought of the day more clearly is.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That we deal all humans.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
With the tension of the balance of what we love
about people and the things that we don't love at all,
and when we have to balance it, it is not
easy for the human spirit to have to reconcile that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
There can be two things happening at once.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
However, we have to be willing to say when something
you're looking.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
At is wrong, to call it out, and.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
To not be afraid to speak truth to power, even
when it is somebody that we may love, right we
and not. That doesn't always mean it has to be
a public announcement, but you have to at least be
able to look at your political your your your political leaders,
people who are in power who make decisions about our lives,
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and to be able to say this that is happening
is wrong. I don't support it. And here is what
I believe about said thing. The problem that I have
today in our society is that I watch people act
like Donald Trump can do no wrong. They can never
ever find anything to say about something that is happening
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that they know is wrong and it's unjust. And so
hopefully what we are all showing right now by having
so many of us who have major platforms to come
out and say that Reverend Jeremiah Right was disrespected and
that President Obama was wrong for what he did, hopefully
that will spread into other sectors of our society where
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people do not feel that they have to be one
hundred percent in support of things that they know are
not right in order for them to be able to
reconcile their political associations.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I pretty much agree with everything that you said, and
I think it's very unfortunate that he would not mention
Jeremiah Right. I think the whole situation is unfortunate. But
what I will say is that we know that in
political discourse, differences, opinions, you know, us who are who
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have been labeled the left, you know, the what do
you call radical, We've always held our political leaders account.
We've always been willing to say, hey, we don't really
like that you did that, we don't really like that
you said that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know, but that's not really a thing a normal
thing on the right.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think in this in this climate, there have been
some who have surprised me and come forward and said, nah,
the things that Trump are doing right now are not
aligned with what it is that I want. You know,
I'm not okay with this. I do not believe this
is right. I don't believe going to wars right. I
don't believe what they did in Gods is right. I
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don't believe these tarots right. Like, there are people who
are who have surprised me and come forward. But I
think we've always had that, you know, we've always had
a moral compass in which we just we don't dis
align with you because you our political or we're part
of the same political structure. I think it gets very
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tricky in s situations where we understand that this moment
right now.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Votes count right.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We we we understand that when you have a certain
platform and your voices has a certain value, that when
you speak that discourse right, that these people strategically utilize
that discourse to say that you don't agree with the
person they don't they sound by it. We're in a
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social media era where you're saying, you know, I don't
agree with President Obama and they'll take that right. It's
just like when we were in this era right now
when people keep talking about Malcolm said he don't like
the Liberals and the Democrats and this and that, but
he also said that the Republicans were no better and
way way less better that he and he always he
also had different, you know, views on both. But people
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will use the sound bites of him talking about the
Liberals and the white Liberals and saying if you're giving
the Liberals your vote, you're chump, and all these things,
and they could constantly use the sound boys, but they
won't listen to the whole you know, the ballot or
the bullet They don't they don't record the whole thing.
So these are the things that we have to be
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very conscious of in these times because we know what
these people are doing. They're taking sound bites and and
and for the most part.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
We don't do that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
We're built on doing it the right way, being honest,
being factual, coming with facts, doing research.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We're not here for sound bites.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
We're not here to mislead you and miseducate you purposely,
and that's their thing. So it's it's it's like a
double ledged sword is yes, we want to call out
our political leaders, but at what time right we?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think we have to use discernment.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I think that like right now us calling out person Obama,
there's no harm in it because President Obama is not
running for anything.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We're not fight he's not fighting.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Against somebody who He's not in a position to where
he can be the president right now. So we like, yeah,
we gotta make sure that we protect President Obama. We're
gonna call him out. We got to figure out how
do we do it. We got to figure out what
time do we do it. We got to figure out
all the things where it is amplified to where it's
not misconstrued and it's not chopped and and screwed to
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where it it negatively affects him to the point where
he loses the steam. Right because just like you was
talking about the whole thing with Jeremiah, right, and you
know this well better than anybody, they will utilize this
moment to destroy you. You know, they will utilize that
the thing that you do and your unwillingness to denounce
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something or say that you don't agree or step away
from something that they have that they have deemed as
disgraceful or they have defamed, and if you stand next
to that, it will diminish and severely hurt your chances.
But I think, I think in this moment as well,
where we have to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
There are a lot of people such.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
As when we look at me and Mandani, when we
look at you know, brother Freddie Haynes, who have been
outspoken on things that normally would be taboo, right, and
now they're being elevated. They're being put in positions to
have power by speaking the truth to power. So we
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have to get behind that momentum right in order for
us to be able to be our one hundred percent
selves and be able to say, hey, I don't stand
with this, but I'm not distancing myself from this individual
because the all around individual is not a bad person
and this is my friend and this is someone that
I value.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
We can disagree on certain issues, we can have this
disagreement on language, we can disagree on a lot of things,
but I don't have to distance myself completely from someone
who I value because you deem them to be unvaluable
or dangerous to you when I know better, because I
have a better understanding in our community has a better understanding,
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and it's all a trick to separate us from our community,
right to have our community look at us as traders
and sellouts because we separated from people that they value.
So we have to just be very strategic in this moment. Yes,
let's call out our political leaders. Let's make sure that
they understand that we're not okay with something. But we
have to understand there's a time and a place, and
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the way that we do it is very, very valuable.
It's important the way that we call out our leaders,
because we cannot give the enemy the fuel to destroy them.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I agree with you, you know, I understand your point,
and you know, quite frankly, I know that you have
to be very intentional about when you speak. Everything you
think doesn't need to be stated, and you have to
be strategic and intentional. However, I also know that one
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of the ways that we lose credibility within our community
and with our people is when they can they know
that the things that you stand for are being violated,
and for you to have no opinion or nothing to
say begins to put you in a category of someone
who can't be trusted and that's something that I'm I'm
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you know, I try to really be be mindful and
careful about because you know, this is this is not about,
you know, whether or not you took a piece of
somebody's bubblegum. This is about how we as a society.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Will either succeed or not.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Hire grandchildren and their children will precede the conditions that
we left them with. So you know, we're we're. I
can't not challenge may among Donnie. I have generally talked
to him directly to say, hey, this is something that
I see and I think there needs to be further conversation.
(31:00):
You need to look at a particular angle on a
multitude of things, and that's cool, right, But sometimes you
can have all the opinions in the world directly with
a major, you know, influential figure like a mayor m'm donnie,
But the regular or not regular. I always try to
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be careful with that. But the person at home who
can't get their message across to them is expecting that
you will make a statement that gives them a sense
of being seen and heard, and so to your point,
it has to be balanced properly. But you know, some
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things is just it just can't It just can't not
be said.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It can't not be stated that.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
As much as I want to make sure that Ma'm
Donnie does well, and you know, we want to support
him to ensure that he is a mayor that goes
down in history as one of the best ever in
New York City and across the country, but I also
have to say that it's disappointing that there was no
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black deputy mayor appointed from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So we have to find that balance. And I actually
think that.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
It helps to strengthen the relationships when people know that
you're not doing it to hurt or harm me, but
actually because you are helping to check my blind spots
that I may not be paying attention to. So that's it, you.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Know, that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
No, I definitely agree. Just like I said, it's all
about presentation and perception. We also understand that words are
very important. You know, I've been studying language lately, just
looking at the words that people say and how you
can say the same thing. One sounds attacking and one
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sound was inviting and in love.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
So I think that we we we all have to.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Figure out how do we practice checking our people and
calling them out in love and respectfully to where to
where our enemies can't spin it. Right, that's what that's
what we have to We have to get so strategic
and the fact that we keep our integrity by calling
out things that we know we we don't agree with,
but in the same time, we we say it in
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a way that the enemy can't utilize it against the
people that we actually love. You know, It's just like
it's like my mother used to always say, I don't
care what the fuck we go through in this house,
but and you ain't gonna let nobody beat up on
your brother and sister in the street.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
My sister used to get on my nerves.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But when we got when we was in front of
the people, even though I said, Okay, I understand what
you're saying, but y'all can't do nothing to my sister. Yeah,
you might be right, but that's so there has to
be that that level of stands. Yeah, I don't really
agree with all that, and I understand what you're saying,
but this is my sister.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So we need you to understand. I'm not on you aside.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I understand what you're saying, and you might have a point,
but the minute you'll touch my sister. The point gonna
go out the window and we're gonna tear this motherfucker up.
And I think that that's that's what we have to
get more season that doing as a party and as
a people black people in general.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There's nothing I can add to that.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know, it means be intentional, be strategic, and think
before you speak.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
And that's the reason why I want to go back
and listen to Jesse Junior's remarks the day after his
father's funeral, you know, in regards to the President's not
knowing his father and you know, this this instance of
not being a sellout and things of that nature and
politics and all, and it just I want to listen
(34:45):
to it because the way I heard it is being framed,
it just was something that it was one of those
moments for me. It was like, Nah, we can't do
this in front of these people.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It was one of those moments to where I could
see Michelle Obama saying, this is why I ain't go
to that funeral.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And that's when I when I listened.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
To that, because I have, once again, I have not
heard the full context, and there are people who actually
respect that are saying, no, you have to listen to
the full context, because it wasn't you know, attacking them.
It was it was in a broader spectrum of you know,
their father from what people knew of him and what
he knows of him. So I want to listen. But
(35:26):
I'm just saying, if you just take that piece right there,
it just it just kind of diminished the value of
what people brought. And if you didn't want them people
to speak, if the family wasn't comfortable and didn't think,
you know, the messages that they would have.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Would have reflected them. I would respect that, and I
would respect it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
If he'd have went and and and went to them
and said something about it. But once again, this is
us airing our laundry out to the public for them
to utilize it against us, you know, And I say,
I know if Michelle Obama was listening to that and
she heard this that she said, that's why I don't
go out to these people's events, man, because you.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Know it, it wasn't an event. It wasn't an event.
It was a service.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And it is definitely noticeable that she wasn't there. But
just like such as life for us, and of course
I don't know anything about anything.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I am not speaking as a person in the know.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Ain't nobody told me.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I didn't ask anyone why she wasn't there, and they
wouldn't have told me anyway, because she ain't you know,
that ain't my home girl.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I'm just a person who was speculating what they call it.
I'm a podcast bro right now, just giving my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It's noticeable that she wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I think as a grown ass woman, she had the
right to make the decision to say I should or
should not go if.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
She wanted to be there.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Short of her maybe you know, having some type of
minor surgery or having some other life changing or you know,
a very important life event, she could have been there
if that's what she wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
But she wasn't, and it is noticeable.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
And I think Michelle probably has reached the place in
her life where she's just decided that I don't have
to go to spaces and do things that I'm not
necessarily either comfortable with or that I just thought I
think makes me fake. You know, she just has reached
that point. She did that because of course, as the
(37:32):
first lady a lot of decisions are made for you,
even your husband decisions or things that he has no
choice but to do. You have to support it because
your job is in many ways, to be a very strong,
powerful wingman.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That is your job. And so she's she has.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Lived through campaigning for president all the way to living
as first Lady as and even even coming out of
law school and working at a major law firm, and
you know, having all these people working for her, there's
still a certain type of persona that you must maintain
(38:12):
so that you can maintain your law license. And also,
just as they were rising through the ranks of a strong, presentable,
respectable black family, which is you know, the majority of
black families, it takes a certain amount of pruning.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It takes a certain amount of work.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Right to maintain that even when people are pissing you
off and saying crazy things and disrespecting you. If you
know you have a goal, you have to work towards
that goal with a lot of discipline. And they have
They clearly exhibited that. And I think she probably just
got to the point where she's just like, yo, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Doing it anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
These people are all from Chicago, and the one thing
I could tell you is that while they may look
very refined when they come outside, most black people when
they at home, regardless of whether they the president, the this,
the that doesn't matter. They still kick their shoes off
and talk that same shit that the rest of us
is talking. So if it was ever some beef they
(39:14):
I know, I can see my mother saying, I ain't
going I mean much love and respect to the man.
I'm gonna find a way to honor him, but I'm
not gonna be able to go sit at the service.
And she's done that a few times. So yes, it
was definitely noticeable. But as a grown woman, I think
she made a decision that was for her own mental health.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
No, and I respect it, you know, especially after seeing that.
I'm like, you know, I just I just want us
to get it together. I just want us to be
more strategic. Man, our enemy is not stronger or smarter
than us. They just outstrategize us. They're out planning us.
They're going into situations with strategy over emotions. You know,
(40:02):
they're actually trying to get victories. We have been content
with moral victories, and that's what I keep saying. Were
comfortable with our leaders dying at thirty with nothing. You know,
as long as they stood on the soapbox and said
black power, you know, they didn't they didn't go into
They weren't able to get into the institutions and transform
them and create the institutions for black power. But we
(40:26):
just wanted them to say it loud and be able
to be seen coming. You know, we celebrate, you know,
the person that dies in the middle of the street,
that runs towards the bullets, and we call it bravery.
And I don't want to call that bravery though, I
want to call that not being strategic.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
You know, as much as I.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Love a lot of our fallen heroes and leaders, they
just ran into setting depth to certain death rather and
I don't want us to do that no more. We
passed that, we've done all of those things. We've done
everything possible to show that we brave and we love
our people. But now we have to get strategic to
where we get resources, we get opportunities, we get positioned
(41:04):
to where we empowering our people to were able to
call the plays and we no longer need these people.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So that's where I think we have to graduate too.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
At this point, I think we've done everything else except
for that property. So that brings me to my I
don't get it, you know. And I've been just watching
the state of America right and there's so many different
conversations about the economy, you know, this whole thing about
(41:33):
immigration and how the immigrants are taking away resources and
they're using taxpayers money, and everything is about taxpayers money,
and we want America to be great.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
And how we want to America first.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know, everyone who is the big Maga fans was
America first, and we don't want this, and we want
everything to be about America. And now we're in a
moment where nothing is about America right. So for my
I don't get it. I don't get how all the
America first Maga people who are so angry at the
(42:09):
immigrants and the illegals as they called them, and they
were so worried about Ukraine, and you know, us supporting
Ukraine don't have any voice for what's going on inside
of the Middle East right now, what's going on inside
of Iran. When it said we're spending about a billion
dollars a day on war, that's coming from the taxpayers money.
(42:34):
No gas prices arising to record numbers, the stock markets
in shambles. You know, food prices are going out out
the roof. There's nothing positive, and it's going and we're
losing taxpayers money.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
But everybody was so loud about getting the immigrants out
of here, right, and they haven't cost a fraction of
what this war is costing us, what Donald Trump's coursing
us with tariffs.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
You know, how the stock market is, how the gas
is raising, how food press and how inflation is constantly rising.
I don't understand how anybody doesn't see that we've lost
way more with everything outside of immigration, and this is
a main focus. It's so many people that I see
on my page. Get the immigrants out. You know, we
(43:24):
was worried about men and women's bathroom. Like, none of
that shit directly impacts your life. None of that shit,
whether immigrant is here or not, nothing has ever changed
from my life. No, They've been deployed immigrants for years.
They said Obama was the deporter in chief, that he
deported more immigrants than anybody.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
It never changed my life.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I didn't get any more money, I didn't get any
more opportunities because immigrants wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I just never seen how immigration changed my life. How
it directly me?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So how do people who are directly impacted by what's
going on in Iran right now?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
We are directly impacted.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
If you got a car, if you got a shot
for groceries, if you living day to day, then you
understand that these things are directly impacting our life. You
can't even travel where you want this travel. They're taking
people off planes. They completely shut Jet Blue down the
other day, saying nobody can get on the Jet Blue
plane anywhere. They're bombing Dubad like this is serious. These
(44:30):
things are really affecting everyday individuals' lives. But y'all was
focused on immigration, and now nobody's saying anything. And either
if you either either you're not saying nothing or you're
saying you supported, Yeah, we the Iranians are happy. Why
do you can if Irnnians are happy when Americans ain't happy?
(44:51):
Don't understand that you're telling me Iranians in the street
they saying trumpet this. But before y'all didn't want no
new wars and y'all didn't want y'all wanted America first.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Now you're telling me how happy the Iranians are.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
You gotta make it make sense for me, because nothing
is happy about my life right now. Resources are severely
being taken away from our communities, We living in levels
of fair that's terrorist threats, all types of things happening
in our community. And you telling me that the Iranians
are happy because we bombing and spending a billion dollars
(45:25):
a day in a war that we shouldn't even be in.
I just don't get it. I just I don't get
when they keep saying this has this trunk derangement syndrome.
It's Trump delusion syndrome, because these people are the most
delusional people that you will ever see in life. Y'all
was worried about Mandanni giving free busses people who live
(45:48):
inside the city who have to work every day. Y'all
was worried about Mondannie building grocery stores public grocery stores
to give people who don't have food.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Those things bother y'all so much because billionaires might have
to pay a couple of more dollars in taxes. But
it don't bother you that we send in billions of
dollars in taxpayer money to fund a war that we
shouldn't even be in.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
But make this shit make sense to me.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You talking about America first, but you telling me how
happy the Iarnians is, but you ain't thinking how happy
the New Yorkers would be if they didn't have to
pay for a bus, if they could get to work,
because you know, most of these people are barely making
livable wages, so that little three fifty seven dollars a
day that they don't have to pay can go towards food.
(46:37):
And these are people who live in America. These are Americans.
These are people who are from where we're from. And
we are mad because people inside America want to do
things to help the average every day American. But we
celebrate that Irnians is happy because we bombed and kill
people in the school. Girls in the school. One hundred
and fifty seven died in the school and were happy
(47:00):
that the Iranians is happy that that happened.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And they and they and they weren't and they weren't.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
And you know the reality is that we're saying that
we don't.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
We were trying.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
And the reality is that Donald Trump said he had
a hunch based upon fact that he thought we might
be attacked.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And so I guess the way.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
To protect us from being attacked is to kill children,
young girls. That's a perfect solution, nine for a nine.
I tell you, you know, it's it's actually pretty sad. He
was talking about Mam Donnie, and he is now going
to based upon news reports, they are going to pretend
(47:49):
to present to the city council a plan for thirty dollars.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
An our minimum wage.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
So the increase would be fifteen more dollars, which I
think the state is, uh, yeah, the state is fifteen,
So it would be thirty more dollars.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I mean, excuse me. It would be.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
Fifteen more dollars or a total of thirty dollars as
minimum wage in New York City. And that is going
before the city Council. I don't know if it will
happen or not likely. You know, folks will make the
case that is too high of a jump.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
We can't do it. Let's go into maybe the twenties.
But the reason why.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
I think he is so politically smart is that during
the major blizzards, he paid or the city sanitation Department
of Sanitation paid the removers, the snow removers thirty dollars
an hour, and people were able to walk off the street,
and provided that they were, you know, not wanted anywhere
(48:50):
they would be, they got those jobs to shovel snow.
It's funny because I saw a lot of older people
out there sometimes you know our folks, the younger folks,
I don't know about us, but any that's neither in
or there, you know, they they made that type.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Of money to do the snow removal. So it showed one.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
That it was effective, right because people were saying across
the city, I did see a difference. It may not
have been perfect because it was a blizzard, and so
we always this is New York, We're gonna have some snow.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
But people know that the process was. It worked.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
It worked in a lot of ways, and also it
gave people opportunities put some extra money in folks pocket.
So if we could do that on a one off situation,
imagine being able to have the foresight to create something
like that four hour citizens every single day and to
force those people who are making the money in the
(49:51):
grocerreet stores, in the department stores, the people who make
massive money and do big deals of it, exchanges of
millions and billions of dollars in the city of New
York to force them to carry the burden of ensuring
that the little people who holds up.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Their entire empire that they're.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Holding it up, that they get some reprieve and maybe
get a pay increase and also some support some services
that allow people not to have to spend their a
little bit of money on transportation and then therefore they
could go.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
By as high ass food.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
That is that that's happening to us in the damn
grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yes, it's you know, it's it's really sad that we
have people who don't want to see everyone just be
able to survive, right, they're really and I never thought
this was like the common thing, but there's really a
large segment of people in the world that enjoy other
(50:59):
people suffering and think, you know, and think that because
they may be in a better position, may have a
better job, more opportunities, that they somehow better than these individuals.
And if these individuals don't have a job, and you know,
they don't have opportunities and they're not in a position
to be able to thrive and live.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Then they shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
And that mentality, to me is so crazy that there
are people that actually think like that shit, Like why
does it hurt me that someone else is able to survive,
someone that is able to eat good food and not hungry,
not starving, don't you know, don't have to live below poverty?
Like why are there people in this world that have
(51:41):
this mentality?
Speaker 2 (51:42):
And so many? You know, sometimes it just makes it
really makes me wonder. I just don't even.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Understand how you could think like that, Like I can understand,
like some things is not my concern. You know, there's
certain things I don't agree with, certain things I don't like,
But that's an individual that's they live their life.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It is not imposing upon me.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's not imposing upon someone else's freedoms, someone else's will.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
But the fact that people are so adamantly against just
the average person being able to survive every day, like
they speak down on it, like when you talk about immigration,
the way that people speak with a level of violdness
about someone just because they come from another country and
not even looking at a grand scheme of life. God
(52:27):
created a whole world, Man decided who can go to
what country? None of us own this world. And if
I'm living in a country or somewhere where I'm not comfortable,
I should be able to migrate to somewhere where I'm
comfortable because God created it that way.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
And because everybody else has, everybody else has.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
And that's what I'm saying. The colonized, this is what
the colonized. The colonizer didn't just go travel to fit
to go where they felt most comfortable. They went and
took other people's land where they were living that they
got rid of them, so that they can own.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
The places where they felt most comfortable.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
They didn't and peace really coexists in cohabitat with other people.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
They took over those countries.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
And well, yes, and and be where I travel.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
You know, we have been to cities all over the world,
and guess what, there's.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Always white folks always, even if it is.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Not a European nation, the white people are always there.
And you know what else, Americans, Americans go in where
they want to go and set up shop, and guess what,
they can go places and get free services.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Shit, we're paying.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
For people in Israel to have health care and education free.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
So what are we talking about? How come they have
more than we have? It just doesn't It doesn't make
sense to me.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
And you know, folks who fall for it, you know,
some of them know exactly what they're doing, and others
it's just that the racism has them blinded.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
But AnyWho, Well, with all of that being said, we've
come to the end of another episode of Tea in
my podcast. We appreciate you all for tuning in, you know,
continue to support us and make us the number one
show in the world. You know, let us know what
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(54:35):
definitely gonna have some new guests and good guests coming
up soon. We're going to start doing some live taping,
so be on the lookout for that as well, you know.
But let us know what you love, what you hate,
Tell me how you hate me, tell me how you
love me.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Let us know.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
We don't know why you have to even tell people
what to say.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Sometimes you gotta let people know because I like the
I embrace the hate. When you my Instagram page, it
is so filed, like they said, so many bots over there.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
You just got to learn how to embrace the hate
and use it as fuel.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
Man, but hate, hate I never embrace. I can embrace critique,
but hate I throw that to the wall because.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I know that I need you to.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
I need to feel the hate from you so I
can transform it into love. You know what I'm saying,
because that's what happens when when you when you are
God's work, when you're doing God's work and you want
to God's children, you transform.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Hate into love. Man.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
You know, you take coal and you turn it into
a diamond. That's what I do. I transform the hate
into the love. So listen, I'm not gonna always be
right to meik the marriage and I can always be
wrong with we both always and I mean always, be authentic.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
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