November 13, 2024 • 60 mins
This week Tamika D Mallory and Mysonne discuss the challenges of life when you lose loved ones, and give their flowers to DJ Clark Kent who recently passed. The discussion then shifts to the topic of Donald Trump announcing plans to eliminate government support of gender ideology, exploring its complexities and the political landscape surrounding it. They emphasize the role of fear in political manipulation and the need for understanding and support for transgender youth. Next, they speak on Trick Daddy comments on not wanting to be African- American, he wants to be recognized as an American. They emphasize the importance of understanding one's cultural heritage and the impact of political discourse on marginalized communities. Also, for Mysonne ‘s segment “ I Don’t Get It” he touches on the emotional intelligence of society, and the implications of Trump's potential return to power, highlighting the need for awareness and critical thinking in navigating these issues.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Mallory and it shit Boy, my son in general.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
We are your host of TM.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
New Name, New Energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's been a long day, but it's I'm here. I'm
Blessed Black and Holly Favor and I woke up this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Along we along several months, not just yeah, yeah, well,
I guess so I wouldn't say it's been rough as
much as I would say it's been long, Like it
felt long to me, just the the traveling, the heat,
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the constant arguments, who agrees, who doesn't agree, who likes who,
who doesn't like. It just seemed like it went on
and on and on, and I just wanted it to
be over.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I wanted the election to be over.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, the election was a lot, you know what I'm saying.
It was heavy because a lot of us worked hard
and you know, put a lot of effort into it.
I think for me, it's just been the last probably
like a couple of weeks. So many people that I
know or love have lost their life. Yeah, you know,
so that's that's like kind of heavy for me. I
got friends who's lost parents, you know, just literally just
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this morning, one of my friends lost his life in
the club, you know, two days ago, Chubby Baby with
somebody that's loved throughout the industry, like was such a
good dude, lost his life. You know, we got ca
can It's just it's just constant people just losing their life.
And so I'm just I'm blessed to still be alive.
So I can't complain about any of that, you know,
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but it doesn't feel all the way good to just
constantly keep seeing death around you. So you know, I'm
just I'm wrestling with that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think that's what it makes for the conversation around
how much we allow ourselves to be like divided by
issues and politics and whatever whatever conflicts we find ourselves in,
because life goes by so fast, like you think you
have time, but you really really don't, because you just
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don't know, you don't know what can happen. I was
just driving the other day and this person did something
that was absolutely like could have got everybody killed, and
I was thinking to myself, wow, today could be it
like over not even me.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's not something that I'm doing. I'm not drinking and driving.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I wasn't texting, I wasn't any of those things, so
I could get to you know. I think about the
movies where they're like you get to the pearly gates
and it's like why me, Like I did everything right
in this situation this day, but this other person was
being irresponsible and therefore my life, you know, was taken.
And I was thinking, Wow, it's so quick, it's so short,
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like you just never know and you really you can control,
but so much of your destiny because it's not in
your hands, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Although you can control.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
The choices that we make, that make that can have
you know, a what do you call it. I don't
want to say a quick ending, but can make you
make your time shorter. But you can't necessarily control when
life will be when it'll just be over.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And I'm blessed to be here and have you know,
had made mends with a lot of my friends, like
even you know RP to to my man pers you know,
we had gotten into argument over Trump online, like we
was arguing back and forth over Trump, you know, and
we've seen each other and it was always love when
you've seen each other. We hug each other, we laughed
about it, you know what I'm saying. And then I
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went to his birthday party, brought him a bottle of champagne,
took pictures, like, showed him loved and then to wake
up five o'clock in the morning people calling you saying
that he ain't here, man, And you just never know,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So a lot of the the little things and the
tedious and the menial things that arguments and discrepancies that
you have with your friends, Man, they don't even be
worth it, you know what I'm saying. I would definitely
give it all just to have my friend back. So
it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
A lot, man. Chubby Baby.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I literally just seen Chubby Baby in Atlanta a couple
of weeks ago. Was sitting there laughing and he was
talking to me. Were talking about all types of things,
just because we came up in this game. Just watching
him from the beginning, you know, early in the early
nineteen late ninety nine and ninety eight, you know, and
just watching him grow into what he was.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And just that's you know, my friend Prophet that I
grew up with, that's his cousin. So yeah, so that's
so you know, a sad thing too. And then of
course Clark Kent.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Was the first people that I wrapped to in late
ninety nine. It was like ninety eight. I mean it
was like, yo, I loved you and was telling people
about me. So it's just like it's just hitting home
and it was really just sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, you know, you have so many especially men like
man gotta gotta gotta gotta, got.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
To take care of yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Guys have to take care of yourself mentally and physically.
You know, it's not only bad habits, but also the
depression that can create situations.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You know, depression can turn into sickness.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Not having a place to go to place your frustrations
and your feelings. I was thinking about how we were
doing the podcast for Icewear Vesso and he you know,
I was saying when we were talking about why people
may not like Kamla Harris so much, and I said,
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some of it and some men has to do with
trauma deths been unaddressed, and how a lot of times
men don't have a place to go to like bring
their stuff because every space that you all have to
show up in it's all about like manly being manly, macho,
even when you're at home, like a woman doesn't want
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a man in the house that's whining and whimpering. It's
like you want your man to show up strong, but
trying to show up strong all the time can turn
into internal sickness that you know, therefore the alcohol becomes
the thing. Therefore the drugs or the permit, whatever it is.
And so you know, I just think that it's an
important message for us to be out here preaching and
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teaching that you all as men and we also as women,
but need to be really really taking care of ourselves.
Y'all need to be taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I was thinking about Clark Kent and that was one
of his messages, like in the last few years of
his life when we would see him, like his message was, man,
take care of yourself, you know, check your health, make
sure you're good. It's not that he could control his
situation again, right, but I'm sure through what he went
through he knew that it is important for you to
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be on top of your health. And you know, I
was looking at messages between the two of us back
and forth where I said to him, listen, I ain't
gonna ask you the specifics of what's going on or
how you're doing, but I just wanted to tell you
that I care. And he wrote back and said, you know,
that's just the simplicity of this message means so much
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to me. And he said, and you keep doing what
you're doing and don't ever stop ever. And that's something
that'll stick with me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That was cluk Man.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Clark was one of those people that when it came
to hip hop, he wanted he had all of the knowledge.
He would give you all the types of the background.
He would debate you about lyricists. But his energy was
always beautiful. It was never never a negative energy. You
walk into a Cluck Kim party. He was one of
the top DJs in the world. You know what I'm saying.
If you've seen him just in the club, he would
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look at you, he'd give you this love hug like
you're good to see you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So and much love to his wife Keisha.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
She just beautiful, just amazing, and it just was a
beautiful They are a beautiful group couple. She will continue
on with his leg see with his family. So Clark
Kent and your friend Percy, and the number of individuals
that just keep I mean, I see it, and perhaps
the Internet has just made it more real and we
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see it a lot. But there's a lot, a lot,
a lot, a lot, a lot of death that is taken.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's why we got to live life. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm telling you, if you don't listen to nothing else,
so I said, you could debate me about anything, but
live life.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Surround yourself around people that have positive energy, do things
in love peace. We are at this age and when
you get to the forties and almost fifties, you have
to surround yourself by nothing but love and positivity. Anything
else is causing stress, is weighing down on your body,
is taken away from your health. You got to make
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and make sure that you take care of your health.
Go and get regular checkups, make sure you eating properly, exercise,
do all the things necessary, man, and surround yourself by
good and positive energy. I don't want to be nowhere
around nothing that I gotta force that I gotta worry
about if somebody gonna shoot me or kill me.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't want, I don't want. I'm past that. When
you when you was twenty, you thought that was cool.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I want to go to the club. We might have beef,
and for some reason it gave you some a drenaline rush.
I don't know what we thought was so cool about that,
but you realize now that that was the dumbest I
want to go. When I look or think there's somebody
that might have a problem, I don't even want to
be there now. I don't want nothing to do with that.
I want blues music. I want slow gems. I want
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R and B like. I don't want nothing that's gonna
cause any type of drum. I want to leave at
the end of the night tipsy after a drink on
a little wine, a little whatever, and I want to
go to sleep and wake up and say how much
of a good time?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's it. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Now, that's the end of that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I said.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
If somebody says, well, Tomik Mallory, you a dirty two bit,
no good so and so I'm gonna say, you know
you're right. I was thinking the same thing about myself.
Have a nice day, don't care. Not interested in turning
everything into a fight, because what we're fighting on the outside,
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the things like I keep going back to the person
in the comments section that said, to whatever these young men,
I ain't gonna go back over the story. If we
only knew who the real enemy is was I say, is,
then we would focus so much more of our time
on that. And I truly do believe that over the
next several years we will be.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Meeting and I don't want to say it as if
the enemy.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Hasn't always been around, but we'll be meeting the enemy
in reform and have to stand up to that. Let
me tell you my thought of the day. So you know,
yesterday a video of Donald Trump talking about some of
his policies and some of the first one hundred days
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like things he intends to do, was released, and one
of the things that he touched on was that he
will be immediately addressing the gender affirming care and stopping it.
Only two genders that will be acknowledged is male and female.
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And you know, there will be no more puberty blocking medicine.
Any doctor who is found to be administering and prescribing
those types of medications for minors, they will not be
eligible for Medicaid, and medicare to go to their medical
facilities and they'll be placed on different lists or whatever,
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so they will not be allowed to care for minors
who have any kind of you know, that they're transitioning
in any way. And you know, in the caption of
the person who posted the video I saw, they said
that zero point zero zero six people, like some very
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very small number of kids identify as transgender at a
very you know, minor kids. Now, you know, throughout the campaign,
there was this whole thing about there being a youth
or kids that go to school and then when they
get back from school they're either And I'm really literally
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trying to paraphrase it because I think for me to
sit here and even repeat the stupid that I saw
that people leave home, go to school, and come back
there was a boy when they left, and they come
back a girl, I can't even repeat that and make
sense of it. So I'm gonna say that what they
probably meant is that the kid would go to school
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and say, you know, I feel this way, and then
they come back talking about changing their sex, because I
just can't process the other thought because there's no way
that that can happen. There are not doctors in America
giving children sex changes or changing their gender. That is
not a thing, right, it is not a thing. But
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the gender affirming care that is something that people have
had to get and had to consult with medical professionals about. Now,
first of all, let's just be clear the percentage, and
I've actually wrote this down that there is little to
no utilization of gender affirming surgeries by kids miners who
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identify as transgender.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Little to none.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Also, I couldn't find the exact percentage, but I know
that everything I read said that it is almost like
no kids using gender affirming medication except in extreme circumstances.
So let me tell you when I read what an
extreme circumstance may be. It's not all about changing your
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sex to something different, right, It's not all about gender
changing your gender. It could be that you are a
child who was born as a male assigned or a male,
and you have male genitilia, but then you also are
growing breast at the same time, right, and so a
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doctor will prescribe something that is a puberty blocker that
basically will stop the breast from growing so that you're
not walking around in society, especially as mean as kids are.
When you go to school, you in the boys' bathroom,
or you are playing sports with boys and you are
a boy, but you also have breast because that's growing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That is a thing, Okay, It is also a thing
that a little girl could have her.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Female genitalia and then be growing a beard and having
hair growing in places because there is something chemical imbalance
or whatever that's happening within her. I don't know if
that's the correct word, but I would assume it's a
chemical imbalance when you have two different things going on
at once.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
When I was a kid, I grew up.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I had a jaj and the vejj and the breast
grew at the same time. I never was in a
situation where all of a sudden certain things made me
feel like I.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Was boy and then.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, like whatever, whatever, whatever can be the I don't
want to misspeak about it because it's too serious. Right,
And so you have doctors that see these things. You
might have a child who is extremely depressed, who is
suffering with, you know, issues, looking at themselves. They're very confused,
and there are doctors out here who know what to do.
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Now are there doctors that might be actually working with
and supporting a child who's saying I am not a girl.
I feel like I'm something else and I want to transition.
Maybe they are, but the statistics, the data shows that
that is happening at.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The low, super super super super low rate. So it's not.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
As someone else said to me, someone we both love
and care for said to me, it's not important at
all that it should not be happening at all, because
it's not important to give children gender affirm and care.
I don't agree with that, but here's what I say
to all the people that I'm watching online who have
so much to say about this topic. It is true
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that this is a very very minute issue that is
not happening at large rates to a bunch of kids
everywhere you go, because I've asked you, I've asked other
friends of ours, I've asked family members how many of
y'all the kids in the class are transgender? Or your
kids went to school, came back and said, I feel
like I should be something else, and most people are
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telling me that didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But you know what is at high rates mass school shootings.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
You know what else is a high at high rates
fenton all deaths among young people. So it is interesting
to me right that this person who people think is
the big bad wolf. He's the big bad Trump that's
coming in to deal with this thing that is this small.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Is this small, and.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yet these other things are this big. And his top
priority is to address this. You know why, because what
he's not getting ready to do is go tell the
NRA and the gun companies that they have to do
something to stop guns from getting into the hands of kids.
That's what he's not gonna do. What he's not gonna
do because he didn't do it while he was president
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before and he had no intention of doing it now.
To address the issues that Congress has laid before the
Republican Party to say, sign on to this that will
help us to deal with people who have access to
guns with mental health, who have access to guns, as
they say the Beltway or whatever they call it, where
there's guns that's being traffic up and down our community.
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And by the way, this is before are the quote
end quote border crisis, because what about the fact that
there are companies that profit they make money off of
So you can't blame this on the immigrants.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You gotta look at the people.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It's like they say, drugs aren't being made in the
black community, so why is it that only people in
the community are being held accountable for the drugs. Why
are you not You should be out immediately talking about
finding ways to crack down on these gun companies and
the NRA.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You know what else he's gonna do. Oh, he said he's.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Gonna target Big Farmer to make sure that they stop
with gender affirming drugs. Will he also deal with the
fact that they have profited off of and marketed opioids
and fentanol and other drugs to our community.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Are they gonna do anything about that?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
You know why because those are his boys, those are
his donors, those are his people. So it's interesting to
me that people feel, which is true, that the issue
of gender affirm and care is something that it's small,
it's not something that should be significant, We shouldn't be
focused on it. Okay, If that is in fact the truth,
then why in the first days of his announcements did
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he not say I'm gonna get to this because I
have an issue with this, and it seems that a
bunch of Americans also have an issue with this because
we know black folks, we know people of all races
that have an issue with the agenda affirming thing. But This
is not as significant as the fact that your child
and my child are more likely to go to a school,
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a mall, a skating rink, or somewhere and get shot
by somebody who happens to be a person that has
a gun in their hand because they probably have some
mental health issue, right, or to get drugs out of
the hands of our kids.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Everything you said is on point, you know, And I
tell people all the time. Donald Trump is a master manipulator, right,
He's figured out and now he lined hisself with Elon Musk,
you know, and he's figured out how to target certain
things that he know triggers people like as a man,
like as an alpha male, you want you you you,
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especially when you're young. In the black community, we've been
taught we've been taught a lot of things about that
they're trying to demasculate. They're trying to emasculate us, and
they want us emasculate us, and they want to feminize.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Us and all those things.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So those are fears that we have, right, So you
fear everything. You're like, no, we're not. We're in a way,
We're not gonna let our kids be emasculate. We don't
want that for our kids. So he stokes that fear,
even though as you grow older, you know, when I
was twenty and all that those things were prevalent. In
my mind, I ain't gonna be around a gay person.
I'm gonna stay it worth for this. And as you
grow older you're like, well, that's their part, that's their issue,
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that's the that's their reality, that's how they live their lives. Right,
They're not bothering me. They're not imposing anything on me.
It doesn't it's not rubbing off on me. I'm who
I am and they who are, and everybody is an individual,
and you start to realize, well, that person, that's the individual.
He's not doing nothing to me. She's not doing anything
to me, So why is that such a big deal.
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But what Trump knows is that it's inside our community.
It's a certain thing that it's a conversation within our community.
So he plays on that. So when he says we
don't want no transgender and we don't want this, he
knows that the average person, especially a male who feels
he's a strong male, is going to say, yeah, we
don't want that. Far kids, even though you don't see
it for your kids. When you go to school, you
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don't see it. That's not something your kids are not
coming home saying, hey, this will happen to my school today.
You know, they tried to tell me I was trained
or I went to school and they taught me about
this is not conversation that happening. But he knows how
to stoke that fear. He knows if he constantly says that.
He knows if he constantly says that, even if it's
not happening, it's just like they're eating the cats and
they're eating the dogs. Even if it's not happening, people
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keep on the migrants are raping and killing you, even
though the percentage of that happening is damning.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So that's what the thing is.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He focuses on the low vibrational shit that he knowsh
triggers you, right, So when I have a common day,
like yo, they given. I had a conversation with a
guy in Michigan and we just talking about the election.
He's liked, I ain't voting. I ain't voting nothing. He said,
i'mnna ask you a question, man. It's Kamala Harris given
transgender operations in jail.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I said, what do you mean she's giving people operations?
Is that's what she's doing?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Because I've seen the commercial to say that, I said, well,
I don't know the particulars of it. I don't know
what if it was a health situation or whatever, but
I heard that there was one situation with that it happened,
and it was probably you know, the person had some issues.
I didn't read the whole thing, but it's not a
normal thing that happens every day. He said, well, I
don't want nothing to do with that. I said, well,
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how many? I said, think about this? You so focused
on that the possibility of that affecting your life is what?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How many have you been to person? He said yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I said, have you been around where somebody had a
sex transfer operation or anything?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He said no. I said, if he did, how would
it affect you?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You go to your cell that person or they sell,
how would that affect your direct life? He said, I'm
saying I just don't want it anywhere. I said, okay,
and I get it. You might not want it because
that's why you don't got it. I said, but if
he gives the police immunity, right, you think that's gonna
affect your life more than that on the one percent
chance of that you because you out here every day
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with the police.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You walk every day, your friends get arrested, they gather.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So imagine if the police had immunity right and they
was able to pull you over and do what they
want to you. Do you think that affects you more?
Or that that one operation that somebody had in the prison.
And he said, you're right, I said, because that's what happens.
They get you to focus on shit that really don't
that don't really affect you, and it don't really matter
to you, right, but.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You just the thought of it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
He knows that it triggers something in you as a male,
because you feel it.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So this is what he does. He figures out how
to trigger things in you.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
That actually the percentage of them having everything because they
talk about the migrants every day, and I know we
have immigration problem.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
We know, well, let's not say we have an immigration
problem because they take little words, but there is in
fact a situation with the immigrant community, the migrant community
that needs to be addressed, needs to be a dressed,
it needs work, it.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Does any serious work, and they and they figured out
how to compound it they figured out, you know what
we're gonna do. We're gonna make sure that when we
get to the immigrants inside of Arizona, when we get
them inside of Florida, we're gonna shift them to one
that We're gonna shift them in Chicago, We're gonna shift
in LA and we're gonna shift in New York to
the Democratic States to where they overload, to where it's
hundreds of thousands of them. And they look and then
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people see it, like you look at them, it's busses.
They done took over this. They figured out how to
make it look like it's a bigger issue because so
they and they focus on that, and they make you
focus on that. And the reality is I've lived the
once immigrants and migrants my whole life. But my whole
life I live in the Bronx. It's a melting pot.
Every time the new immigrant class coming, they come to
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the Bronx. You know, I remember when the Dominicans came here.
I remember when Africans came here. I remember when Venezuela.
Like you watch them come in. We figured out how
to live with each other. Some of them my best friends.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And the interesting thing about it in my opinion is
that I know a lot of I know a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm like you.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I grew up in the Bronx and Harlem and then
to the Bronx, and I know a lot of people
who are immigrants. I mean a lot of people who
are immigrants, or at least the parents were immigrants, or
the child might have been born in the United States,
but the rest of their families immigrants. And I can
tell you right now that those people are mainly the
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most peaceful people I.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Know, the.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Citizens that I had to run from. So I'm just
saying like, and it's very intention very intentional.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And they figured it out, and they looked at the things,
and I'm telling you, they have study groups. They sat
down with the study groups. What what is going to
trigger these people the most?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Because we keep saying it, whether it is or not,
we're going to keep on stoking that fear, and that's
gonna be the main thing that they focus on.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
They're gonna get so focused on the ship.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That don't matter, that's barely happening, that the zero point
one percent happening, that they're gonna forget about the real
ship that's going on. Right So that's that's what that's
what Donald Trump has done. And you know, like, once again,
I do not agree. I do not think any child
should be should be affirming any gender as a child.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I just don't know if that's a thing. I don't
think this is my person.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You know, you and I have had this conversation rigging
him around the rosie and I you know, I appreciate
the fact that your position is your position and it
is what it is. But I do wanted to make
sure make sure it's clear that we are okay with
children affirming.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
What we learn to be fact. So let's just be
clear when when.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
We have we're children and years and it whatever whatever time,
some already said this is what is going to be called,
this is this, and that's that male female and.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Those kids that say I'm a boy, I'm a boy.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
No one has a problem with that, if not no one,
But people don't have an issue with that. So we're
okay with kids affirming what has been the social construct
that they are assigned to. What we have an issue
is them saying I feel like something else is happening.
That's when we're like, well, I don't believe that a
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kid should have the right to that. Now, I do
agree with you. I agree with you one hundred I
just want to make sure that the premise is clear.
But I do agree that a child should not be
able to make a life altering decision before they become
an adult, because that does not mean that I don't understand,
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believe in one hundred percent feel that parents that know
their children are going through something because I've had parents
sit in my face and tell me. We tried to
ignore it, We tried to do therapy, We tried to say,
maybe the child is just crazy, weird, this all kinds
of things because we were ignorant. But once we begin
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to try to understand our depressed child, our child that
was withdrawn, our child that was cutting it him or
herself or doing certain things. After we tried to understand
and they were able to open up to explain to
us that they don't feel like the body that they're
in is who they truly are, then we had to
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figure out a way to wrap care around them, to
take them to the right. Not just any psychic, because
you got psychiatrists and therapists who also don't agree, who
might be sitting there telling the kid, oh, you just
you know, you need these pills to make you you know,
like like I don't know the right pills. So again,
I don't want to just be throwing things out, but
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you could give kids stuff or people things that dope
them down, make them feel like, you know, more depressed,
instead of trying to help them figure out how to
cope with the situation that they're in. And so with
that being said, right, I do believe that families should
be supportive of their children and trying to understand what
the kid is experiencing and educating themselves.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
But I do not believe that a.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Twelve year old, a ten year old, a fourteen, fifteen,
even sixteen year old should be able to go to
their parent and say, okay, now I'm ready to change
my genitulia from one.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Thing to the next. I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I don't now if they say that they they want
their name to be something different, and they go to
their family, and the family sits together and work out
an understanding, and it takes a lot, it's a lot
of therapy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It's a whole lot. And I think your children are
worth investing in that way in them. But I don't
think that people should be changing their sex at before
they're grown and able to fully understand the decision that
they're making. Nevertheless, it's happening at the lowest rate of anything.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Right, And I agree, I agree. I just said that's
what I say.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I just believe that, you know, as children, we make
a lot of harsh decisions, brass decisions, or decisions that
we're not one hundred percent aware of. Like I've watched now,
I've been a fifteen sixteen thought I knew everything. It
was like, Noah, nah, I want to do this, I'm
gonna do this. And then by the time I was
nineteen twenty, I'm like, I don't even know what made.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Me do that.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So those are realities, and then there's just the reality
that we just don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
If you're not somebody who identifies as trans, or you're
not somebody who's dealing with that reality, you don't know.
So I'm not I don't want to put anything on
somebody else based on my reality and based on my experiences,
because my experience is not your experience the way that
you deal your brain doesn't work like mine, your body
is not working like mine. So I don't have the
right to impose my mentality, in my emotions and my
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physical feelings on you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's just not right to me. But I do not.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Believe that we should be making those lifetime decisions before
a person is an adult person. I think then you
let that adult person make those decisions because at that
point they can't blame that on anyone but themselves, and
they're fully aware. I just don't that's just what they
can't give put that on anyone else for themselves not blame.
It is your decision to make, and I think an
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adult should be able to.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Do that, you know, so I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I believe that they're trying to tell us that they're
trying to emasculate men, especially black men, and I want
to clarify that there is definitely an attempt to emasculate
black men. Is when you look at TV, when you
look at a lot of different things, you know, this
whole toxic masculinity thing that's over I feel like it's
oversaturated as used in too many point of views, and
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everything is not toxic masculinity. I believe there are things
that are masculine that we do as men that is toxic,
but I can't believe that everything that we do because
a lot of those things are we are taught to
utilize those for survival. And I say this all the time.
A lot of things that people say it's toxic masculinity.
If I when I was in prison, if I didn't
utilize those things, I probably wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
But does that mean it's toxic, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I can't tell you it's time because it was survival mode.
It was things that we use to survive there. When
you become when you are in a jungle, you know,
and you around wolves, you're either gonna be a predator
or you're gonna be pray.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Right once they sense that.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You pray and you and you you crying, and you
emotional and you you can cry all the time, and
you got to explain all these things that that doesn't
work in real life where we are and the real
where where I'm from, it just doesn't work. So you know,
I know that those things are real, but I also
know that we lack a lot of emotional intelligence. We've
utilized those things that whenever we can't get our way,
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or we don't know how to express something, or we
feel pain, we react with this level of aggression that
I believe is toxic. So those both those things can
exist at the same time.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
And need to break it down.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
We definitely need to break it down, and I think
we should.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Those are conversations we should be having, but we should
not allowed those things to allow us to impose our
will on other people and the things in the realities
that they go for, and and not to allow them
to trick us by using the trans community or the
LGBTQ community against us, because those individuals are dealing with
their own, you know, their own situations. So when when
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you start realizing that, you start to evolve and you
start to grow, you started realizing that a lot of
things that we took as serious or a lot of
things that we were taught were just wrong. Like you know,
we we really as a young black boys in our community,
we targeted those people. We felt like it was like
a plague. And as you grow older, these are just individuals.
These are people were just different realities. I have people
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who that are gay, that are lgbt and trans that
they are cool people, don't you know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's not that I know a lot, but.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I've been around them and they and they were fine.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And respect. They didn't have the.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
They were human beings and their reality was just different
than minds every respect we have friends.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Have you in this industry, if you've been this industry
long enough, then you've been around gay and trans people.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That's just the reality of what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I don't know about trans people though, maybe they just
never say inside the industry, oh okay, okay, okay, because
I think that's another thing is that people when they
don't experience something or they haven't been around it, they
listen to whatever they hear on these shows and they.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Listen they've been in this industry for years.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, I'm just saying, until I became until my.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Older years as an activist, I never I did not
meet I had not met a openly trans person. That
was not something that I was introduced to. And once
I did, and once I did, I was.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Like, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
My first reaction certainly was not a positive one, like,
let's just be honest, because I had been told they're this.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
So you're trying to tell me you never was around
men that were dressed like women that were like fully dressed.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Now, what my experience was more of the opposite my
in my life, may have been one or two men
that were like kind of like rich what's his.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Name, Richie, little Richard, little.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Richard, like kind of like that, right, like a little
and I'm yeah, yeah yeah, and a little princey, right.
But they weren't called trans right, Like when I say
trans gender, I mean that this is a person who
has fully decided they not this, they're they're that. So
what I experienced was people who were gay, and mainly
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it was women who dressed up and behaved more masculine,
like that's how you knew something's up. Maybe there was
a boy that was a lot more feminine and so okay,
but that was rare because again, dealing with people's trauma,
a lot of young men did. They never were able
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to really show you that it was an act of
rebellion for a woman to be like this is me.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Like two women were living together and everybody knew in
the building like that.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's a little strange because usually the is man and
women with children. So when two women, especially with no
kids or older kids, were living together in the projects,
you kind of it was like whispers about it, but
it wasn't a big bowld conversation. Very rarely did you
have a man who was outwardly openly gay, And if
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you did, he was very flamboyant, like right, and maybe
he kept it himself. That wasn't my experience.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It just wasn't.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
And and by the way, later in life, I was told, oh,
you know, so and so was whatever, or if a
family member died of like HIV or something like that,
like they said, well, you know he was into this
or he was dad in the third, But that wasn't
what he did. When he came to my parents' house
or he went to my grandmother's house, or I saw
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him at family thing.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
You see him at the family thing.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
He done turned into the most masculine man ever.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And then when he's house that's what. That's what. That's
my experience.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
We know it's there. As I got older, I began
to understand it. When I was eight year nine, ten
eleven years old, I didn't see that. I saw more
women than I did men. So I'm just saying, when
you don't know, then when I met someone like that,
I'm like, oh my god, Like what do I say?
You know, I was all like, oh, I'm all uncomfortable.
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I don't know how I got to speak to them.
I don't say this, don't say that, And it ended
up being that the person is kind of like relax
first of all. Second of all, it's not that deep.
I understand that you don't know, and so I can
help you along. And it's not that serious then and
nowaday like it's not that serious.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It really is not that serious.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
So anyway, moving right along, the team mind of today
has to go to our dear brother, trick Daddy. Now,
now let me say this right. I first of all,
had opportunity to meet Trick Daddy one time. We were
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on Love and Hip Hop, and he's fairy, he's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
He's funny. He reminds me of my family.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
My parents are from Alabama, and you know, my mother's
from Alabama. My father's ofm North Carolina. My mother's family
is deep, deep, deep deep deep South, and you've met them.
These folks, they are hilarious, they are Southern as hell, and.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
He could fit right.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
All you gotta do is bring him to the family event,
give him a chair and sit him down, and he
could get right into the conversation because that's people. He
would be beloved in my family. That's how my family
members are. But he said the other day that he
doesn't understand why people want to put Afro in front
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of his of the title for like who he is
his culture African American, because I ain't never been to Africa.
I ain't thinking about Africa. I heard it was a
nice place, It's beautiful and all of that, but I
ain't no African and I'm not whatever. You know, And
you know, his point is like, he don't need to
be attached to African, he can just be American.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And I feel like.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
We are literally only people in the world that run
from our heritage so much so that part of the
reason why we experience the trauma that we go through
in this nation is because we are unwilling to accept,
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to own, to understand, to learn about our culture, where
we come from, and what has happened to us and
how we ended up where we are. And then the
type of mechanisms, the type of unity, the type of
strategies that we have to use that draws upon our
history and our culture in order for us to be
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able to change our circumstances in this.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Nation, and and and and in this world. And I saw.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
In the comments, people like, yeah, he might have said
this too, but I can't remember, so I don't want
to attribute attribute it to him that people white people
don't say that they are European right, which is not true.
There are white people, many of them who know I'm
a European American, a Caucasian or European American here here
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in this country. I've never ever met, not once in
my life have I met an Asian who said, you
can't call me an Asian American right, or a Latino American.
People love to identify and own their heritage and their
culture right and only we as and I can't say,
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let me go back and not say only we, because
maybe it's not just only we, but it's prevalent among
our community that we are very unwilling to own, like
it's almost like Afro right. It's like it's like a
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it's like a disease on us.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
And then the other part of it.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
So my Tami is that for me, I feel like
trick Daddy might not understand how damaging it is when
you have such a big platform and you say things
like that what it does and how it impacts our youth,
and how it really chips away at our powerful, amazing heritage, right,
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Like we didn't just we didn't just pop up here.
There is a story that goes from a long way
that brings us to where we are today. And there
is nothing wrong with us owning that heritage and that understanding,
and our young people listen to us, and.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Then they become in the wilderness.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Right, because if you don't know who you are, where
you've been, what your heritage is, you can't possibly know
where it is that you're going now. You know, I
also feel like well, and I think, yeah, this is real. Right.
Most of the Jewish people I know, their children learn
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about their culture, they learn their culture.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
They never will say to you.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm just an American. They are proud to say I'm
a Jewish American. Maybe they don't say it in every
room because they deal with very real anti Semitism and
so sometimes they have to assimilate. But that's exactly what
you're doing when you say I'm not Afro nothing, I'm
just American.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah. I think Trick is bugging you know. I love Trick,
that's my boy.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
But sometimes Trick says some things that you're like, you know,
I think, especially Trick you know, being as southern as
he is in the richness of the black culture that
he has, right and understanding that southerness, it brought some
of the mother land here.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Like you can you it's still in you.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Like when you go deep South, you can feel the
roots of Africa in the deep South, they still have
the roots there. So when you disconnect yourself from that,
you know then and then you try to assimilate, and
you can already see they don't want you here.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
They're not, they don't. They separate you every every.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Time they get a chance, they say, African Americans, they
don't want you to ever think that you just and
you should. You should grab on and hold it and
look into your heritages and understand how rich your heritage is.
You know, you know a lot of people there are
a lot of people that say that though, like you know,
a lot of people say, I never been to Africa.
I don't know nothing about Africa. And that's what happens
when you disconnect the people from their culture. Right, you
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don't have Asians that will say that they are never
just going to tell you the American they just not
because they've been brought up in their heritage. They've been
brought up in their culture. You know, they have their customs,
they have the language that they still identify with, all
of the things they can bring. They show you the
history and they make you proud of that history. So
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I think has happened a lot of people want to
disc connect themselves from the African culture and history because
they don't see the richnesses and they don't see the
powerfulness in it. They think it's some level of weakness
or it's some level of you know, beneath because a
lot of people within America try to push that on them. So,
you know, I think it's a lot of people who
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who don't understand how connected you need to be to
your culture, how we need to maintain our culture and
our heritage and be proud of that heritage. You know,
in America will make you believe that you need to
abandon that and you need to be a part of
me because oh, you're not American. If you're not from America, Listen,
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I'm from America. I was born and raised in America.
But I understand my heritage. I understand where I come from.
I understand exactly what I've been through, understand you know,
the things that my ancestors had to do to actually
get here.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
And I'm proud of that.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I'm proud that despite all of the things that we
went through, you know, as in Africa when we were
kings and queens. I want to be able to identify
back to that. I want to be able to have
that heritage, right. I don't want just the you know,
the culture of blackness to start in America, because to me,
that wasn't a good start, you.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Know, right right as you said, like, our beginnings here
were not that great, and there were those who traveled here,
which we learned even before Christopher Columbus, and so we
as Africans had already.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Set our feet on this st on this soil.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Right, we had already before Christopher Columbus claimed to discover America,
Africans had already discovered that this land was here. And
of course we know that the natives to this land
were thriving on it, right. And so when I hear that,
it makes me think about Marcus Garvey's quote where he
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talks about up you Mighty race.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
He talks about.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
Us being brought here, robbed from our homeland, robbed of
our names, robbed of our culture, robbed of our religion,
robbed of our dignity and self respect.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
And you know, and he says we shall rise, But.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I don't know that you can rise without knowing where
you come from and never being in a place where
you want to disconnn with the thing that actually gives
you so much greatness, it actually sets you aside. And
I saw so many people writing, oh, because the Africans,
they don't want us, no way, And that is the
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biggest lie that's ever been told. That's another thing that
is misinformation. I always tell people, for the most part,
if you are a person, if you are a person
who has never been to Africa, when you say Africans
don't want us, they don't love us, they don't respect us,
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they don't like us, just know that for the most part,
those are Americanized Africans who learn the same disrespectful shit
you've learned. That's really the truth, the same disrespectful, rude
cultural issues that we as Americans have here. Those Africans
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more than likely are Americanized and they come here and
they learn the same thing everybody learns that quote unquote
black people, which black is considered a race because it
is used obviously on every application or whatever. If you
notice they try to change it to African American. But
sometimes you'll still see them use race. I mean still
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see the application or something used black. But black is
actually not the race. It is not the race.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
But nonetheless, you know, when you meet these people who
are Africans here in America, they're exposed to the same
things that we've been exposed to.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
So just like we can be rude, so can they.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Well, when you travel to Africa, when you actually touch
that motherland, you do not find Africans that are mistreating
African Americans. The main thing we heard every time we've
been to Africa, and now it's been a number of
times and places that we have travel, what we always
hear is we've.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Been waiting for you. Thank you for coming here. We love,
welcome home.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
So again we have to put things to come we loved. Yes,
I'm sure you have encountered an African person who has
treated you like shit. I've been in uh taxi cabs
and others where I really am like wow, like damn,
you just gonna disrespect me.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
But that is not the culture. That's our culture in America.
That these people have adopted to all right, because that
is not.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
What happens when you go to Africa.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
It is not I don't think I have ever when
when the times that we've been in Africa, I have
never experienced a feeling of racism or like I was
unliked or mistreated.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Never, not one time, have you?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I mean no, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I've actually felt loved everywhere until people all the time.
You know, you need to go to Africa. South Africa
is beautiful, Ghana is beautiful, Nigeria is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Like it's something that you actually need to do.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I have to do so that narrative, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Sorry, Trick, you know I love you, but you're gonna
have to grab onto that Afro because use an Afro.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
American, and you know, the darker we are, they definitely
associate us with our culture.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
And I love it. I own it, and I'm happy
to say.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
I mean sometimes I'm more into the Afro than I
am the American.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Well look at God, you know. So that brings me
to my music segment today, right, we was talking about
I was talking about at the beginning of the show,
how many people have lost their life and this last
couple of weeks and how you know, I was just
trying to find I've been trying to write music actually
because I wanted to talk about it. But it was
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just a song that touch me by Toby and g Way,
and it's called when God Cracks the Sky. You know,
it's not exactly talking about it, but it's just talking
about he has his daughter on his shoulders and he's
just in the whole way, and it's like he's talking
to her about how much he loved her and he's
going to take care of her, and he was laying
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with her, and she didn't underst she didn't even understand
how with laying with He didn't even understand what laying
with her meant to him until he actually did.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
It, you know what I'm saying. So it just it
just touched me in a different way.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
If you got a chance, please go listen to it,
When God Cracks the Sky shout out to Toe. We
got to get in the studio, Like he's one of
my favorite artists right now, and it's a dope song.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
When God Cracks the Sky. I have to check that out.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
That sounds like it's a lot of different artists on there.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I love him and his wife and his family. Yes,
it's just beautiful.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, they've they've created something. And it just shows you
that's that's nothing but Africa. That's Afro. You know what
I'm saying. That's when you come from the motherland. Man,
you can everything else, but don't take that ad for
off your name, trick baby, because that thing right there,
like that coming from them drums man, when you listen
to that music, it has the richness. Now we go
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to my I don't get it. Now, I don't get it.
It brings us back to the beginning as well. You know,
we was talking about Trump, and we was talking about
how he talked about his plan for the first one
hundred days, and you know, people can constantly tag me
and stuff, and one of the things that he said
that was very interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
He said that he's going to grab up all the gangs,
all the gang members.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
He's gonna lock him up, and he's going to give
the death penalty for drug dealers.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
And I've seen a lot of people that's like, yes,
that's right, Well, you just need to stop selling drugs.
You need to do this, and you need to do that.
A lot of people. That was like, to me, it
didn't make sense. It's like, you know, coming from the
communities that I come from, and it.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Was crazy to me. Is that a lot of these
people right that was rooting for Trump?
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I know them, right, I know that some of your
former some of y'all still dibbling, dabbling. Some of y'allre
definitely gang members. Whether you're doing a positive or not.
You you attached the gang, right. So I'm saying to myself,
did this really make sense?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (53:20):
But the real thing that I did not get is
everyone was so critical.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Joe Biden made the four Crime Bill.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
And then fourty four. Yeah, well listen whatever ninety four
one three, what it was in the nineties, Joe Biden
they called him. They call him crime Bill Boden. He
locked up black people. He locked people up for drugs.
He locked him up, locked him up too with from
their family. Oh, he's the worst person in the world.
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He locked up black people. I said, Okay, I get it.
You know they said, Kamala Harris a prosecutor, she locked
up black people. No, no, can't vote for her, locked
up black people. No, No, I can't believe you. Over
tom as a prosecutor. They locked up black people, locked
up black people. The same people that said they were
so anti body for the crime Bill, they hated Kamala
(54:13):
because she was a prosecutor and she locked up black people.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Was the same exact people trying to tell me.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
That they was gonna praise Donald Trump for giving drug
dealers to death.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Petalis.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
Now, I'm not a new that's not new, but I'm saying,
but I'm just I'm not the I'm not the smartest person,
but I know this.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
If I had to choose between somebody locking me up
for selling drugs and somebody giving me the death penalties
for selling drugs, I'm definitely gonna say that the death
penalty is worse. I'm gonna take that time, right because
a lot of the drug dealers that got locked up
for the crime, but they.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Home now, right, they home now. They they don't serve
their time, they don't changed their ways. They moving on.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
They they're able to look back on their life even
though they lost they lost time in their life, you know,
but they did they committee crimes and they might have
had excessive time.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
But once you give somebody the death penalty, they.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
Ain't coming back. So I'm trying to figure out why
y'all had all of this smoke for the crime bill,
and y'all had all of the smoke for Kamala because
she was locking people up they were selling drugs.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
But you don't got nowhere at all.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
And you telling me these people that were saying, Yo,
you know, I'm not with no no prosecutor locking people up. Man,
I'm you know, I'm with Trump, but you ain't. You
ain't saying nothing about the death penalty for drugs. Now
you're saying people need to stop selling drugs?
Speaker 2 (55:36):
Right?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
And what makes it really really serious? And I don't
have anything more to share, But the thing that is
really serious is that Trump also when he was in
office and it will continue now, and he put a
number of federal judges on the main thing. Then in
(56:03):
this when he becomes president again, he will have the
Supreme Court. He also well, he has the Senate, and
he may potentially it's looking closer and closer like he
may have the Congress, right or have Congress. Because I
always have to remind myself and others the Congress. The
Congress is the Senate and Congress together. But the Senate
(56:30):
and Congress are two separate entities, so he will have
all of that, plus the federal judges that he's placed
on the bench all around this nation. Okay, so when
you sold the bagawed, or your son or your nephew
or your friend sold the bagawed, maybe got caught with.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
You know, something that they shouldn't have had.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
Sure, they shouldn't have had it, but people do deserve
second chances.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Now you're telling me that the court.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
System under his control, with his judges that don't have
to have any care whatsoever about you as a good kid,
free pooky, none of that. They can convict you and
then send you on this path towards towards the death penalty.
And you're telling me that that makes more sense to
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you than somebody else who was saying, we need to
figure out how to help you get a home and
help you build generational wealth and help you find ways
to not need to sell drugs or do drugs or
what have you. It doesn't make sense to me at all.
And I think when people get an opportunity to understand
what that trifecta plus the courts looked like, which means
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the White House and the Senate and the Senate in Congress,
and then of course your federal judges when they have
an opportunity to see.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
How it looks.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
It is that there are no controls, are no guardrails.
There is no one there who will be able to say, well,
you know, we're not going to vote for that because
we don't you you might be saying, I don't agree
with X y Z thing. You would hope that there
is some body of government that can stop it. But
now he has the ability to push his ideology through.
(58:21):
And guess what most of the things that he is
speaking of in this last press conference are or in
the last speech that he made, these are all things
pulled directly from Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
Listen, man, I'm I'm not here to continue to debate
about these things. Were gonna am We're gonna because I'm
not debated.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
No, I'm not. I'm going to talk about it, but
I'm not going to debate.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
I'm going to We've already we got the president that
we have and we're gonna watch the cards for what
they made. Like we said before, until freedom gonna be outside,
we was gonna fight whoever was the president.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
You know, we we we.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
Realized that one was gonna be a hard upon it,
and we got the hard opponent, but we ain't giving
up the fight.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
But I just want as these four years.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Progressed, the people who made these decisions, like this decision
that tried to tell me that the crime bill was something,
but death penalty ain't. I just want you to constantly
just take a look in the mirror every every day.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
These as these you know, these.
Speaker 4 (59:20):
Stephen Miller being being a name to his deputy chief
of staff, and this.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Man is a raging race but they all raging racis.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
And I think Stephen Miller is something. I hear what
you're saying, something different. I'm just telling me it.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Ain't nothing different. This is this is the house that
Trump built. Trump came back for revenge.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (59:42):
That man then came here for revenge, and he gonna
put cases on all you.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
That's what he gonna do. Man.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
So I'm gonna let y'all know man, y'all wanted Trump,
y'all got Trump.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
With that said, I'm not gonna always be right, but
I know I'm right about Trump and Tamika marriage. And
I can always be wrong, but we will both always
and I mean always, be authentic.
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's been a long day, but it's I'm here. I'm
Blessed Black and Holly Favor and I woke up this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Along we along several months, not just yeah, yeah, well,
I guess so I wouldn't say it's been rough as
much as I would say it's been long, Like it
felt long to me, just the the traveling, the heat,
(00:44):
the constant arguments, who agrees, who doesn't agree, who likes who,
who doesn't like. It just seemed like it went on
and on and on, and I just wanted it to
be over.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I wanted the election to be over.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, the election was a lot, you know what I'm saying.
It was heavy because a lot of us worked hard
and you know, put a lot of effort into it.
I think for me, it's just been the last probably
like a couple of weeks. So many people that I
know or love have lost their life. Yeah, you know,
so that's that's like kind of heavy for me. I
got friends who's lost parents, you know, just literally just
(01:22):
this morning, one of my friends lost his life in
the club, you know, two days ago, Chubby Baby with
somebody that's loved throughout the industry, like was such a
good dude, lost his life. You know, we got ca
can It's just it's just constant people just losing their life.
And so I'm just I'm blessed to still be alive.
So I can't complain about any of that, you know,
(01:43):
but it doesn't feel all the way good to just
constantly keep seeing death around you. So you know, I'm
just I'm wrestling with that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think that's what it makes for the conversation around
how much we allow ourselves to be like divided by
issues and politics and whatever whatever conflicts we find ourselves in,
because life goes by so fast, like you think you
have time, but you really really don't, because you just
(02:15):
don't know, you don't know what can happen. I was
just driving the other day and this person did something
that was absolutely like could have got everybody killed, and
I was thinking to myself, wow, today could be it
like over not even me.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's not something that I'm doing. I'm not drinking and driving.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I wasn't texting, I wasn't any of those things, so
I could get to you know. I think about the
movies where they're like you get to the pearly gates
and it's like why me, Like I did everything right
in this situation this day, but this other person was
being irresponsible and therefore my life, you know, was taken.
And I was thinking, Wow, it's so quick, it's so short,
(02:57):
like you just never know and you really you can control,
but so much of your destiny because it's not in
your hands, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Although you can control.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
The choices that we make, that make that can have
you know, a what do you call it. I don't
want to say a quick ending, but can make you
make your time shorter. But you can't necessarily control when
life will be when it'll just be over.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And I'm blessed to be here and have you know,
had made mends with a lot of my friends, like
even you know RP to to my man pers you know,
we had gotten into argument over Trump online, like we
was arguing back and forth over Trump, you know, and
we've seen each other and it was always love when
you've seen each other. We hug each other, we laughed
about it, you know what I'm saying. And then I
(03:47):
went to his birthday party, brought him a bottle of champagne,
took pictures, like, showed him loved and then to wake
up five o'clock in the morning people calling you saying
that he ain't here, man, And you just never know,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So a lot of the the little things and the
tedious and the menial things that arguments and discrepancies that
you have with your friends, Man, they don't even be
worth it, you know what I'm saying. I would definitely
give it all just to have my friend back. So
it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
A lot, man. Chubby Baby.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I literally just seen Chubby Baby in Atlanta a couple
of weeks ago. Was sitting there laughing and he was
talking to me. Were talking about all types of things,
just because we came up in this game. Just watching
him from the beginning, you know, early in the early
nineteen late ninety nine and ninety eight, you know, and
just watching him grow into what he was.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And just that's you know, my friend Prophet that I
grew up with, that's his cousin. So yeah, so that's
so you know, a sad thing too. And then of
course Clark Kent.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Was the first people that I wrapped to in late
ninety nine. It was like ninety eight. I mean it
was like, yo, I loved you and was telling people
about me. So it's just like it's just hitting home
and it was really just sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, you know, you have so many especially men like
man gotta gotta gotta gotta, got.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
To take care of yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Guys have to take care of yourself mentally and physically.
You know, it's not only bad habits, but also the
depression that can create situations.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You know, depression can turn into sickness.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Not having a place to go to place your frustrations
and your feelings. I was thinking about how we were
doing the podcast for Icewear Vesso and he you know,
I was saying when we were talking about why people
may not like Kamla Harris so much, and I said,
(05:38):
some of it and some men has to do with
trauma deths been unaddressed, and how a lot of times
men don't have a place to go to like bring
their stuff because every space that you all have to
show up in it's all about like manly being manly, macho,
even when you're at home, like a woman doesn't want
(05:58):
a man in the house that's whining and whimpering. It's
like you want your man to show up strong, but
trying to show up strong all the time can turn
into internal sickness that you know, therefore the alcohol becomes
the thing. Therefore the drugs or the permit, whatever it is.
And so you know, I just think that it's an
important message for us to be out here preaching and
(06:21):
teaching that you all as men and we also as women,
but need to be really really taking care of ourselves.
Y'all need to be taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I was thinking about Clark Kent and that was one
of his messages, like in the last few years of
his life when we would see him, like his message was, man,
take care of yourself, you know, check your health, make
sure you're good. It's not that he could control his
situation again, right, but I'm sure through what he went
through he knew that it is important for you to
(06:52):
be on top of your health. And you know, I
was looking at messages between the two of us back
and forth where I said to him, listen, I ain't
gonna ask you the specifics of what's going on or
how you're doing, but I just wanted to tell you
that I care. And he wrote back and said, you know,
that's just the simplicity of this message means so much
(07:14):
to me. And he said, and you keep doing what
you're doing and don't ever stop ever. And that's something
that'll stick with me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That was cluk Man.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Clark was one of those people that when it came
to hip hop, he wanted he had all of the knowledge.
He would give you all the types of the background.
He would debate you about lyricists. But his energy was
always beautiful. It was never never a negative energy. You
walk into a Cluck Kim party. He was one of
the top DJs in the world. You know what I'm saying.
If you've seen him just in the club, he would
(07:44):
look at you, he'd give you this love hug like
you're good to see you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So and much love to his wife Keisha.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
She just beautiful, just amazing, and it just was a
beautiful They are a beautiful group couple. She will continue
on with his leg see with his family. So Clark
Kent and your friend Percy, and the number of individuals
that just keep I mean, I see it, and perhaps
the Internet has just made it more real and we
(08:14):
see it a lot. But there's a lot, a lot,
a lot, a lot, a lot of death that is taken.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's why we got to live life. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm telling you, if you don't listen to nothing else,
so I said, you could debate me about anything, but
live life.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Surround yourself around people that have positive energy, do things
in love peace. We are at this age and when
you get to the forties and almost fifties, you have
to surround yourself by nothing but love and positivity. Anything
else is causing stress, is weighing down on your body,
is taken away from your health. You got to make
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and make sure that you take care of your health.
Go and get regular checkups, make sure you eating properly, exercise,
do all the things necessary, man, and surround yourself by
good and positive energy. I don't want to be nowhere
around nothing that I gotta force that I gotta worry
about if somebody gonna shoot me or kill me.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't want, I don't want. I'm past that. When
you when you was twenty, you thought that was cool.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I want to go to the club. We might have beef,
and for some reason it gave you some a drenaline rush.
I don't know what we thought was so cool about that,
but you realize now that that was the dumbest I
want to go. When I look or think there's somebody
that might have a problem, I don't even want to
be there now. I don't want nothing to do with that.
I want blues music. I want slow gems. I want
(09:29):
R and B like. I don't want nothing that's gonna
cause any type of drum. I want to leave at
the end of the night tipsy after a drink on
a little wine, a little whatever, and I want to
go to sleep and wake up and say how much
of a good time?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's it. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Now, that's the end of that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I said.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
If somebody says, well, Tomik Mallory, you a dirty two bit,
no good so and so I'm gonna say, you know
you're right. I was thinking the same thing about myself.
Have a nice day, don't care. Not interested in turning
everything into a fight, because what we're fighting on the outside,
(10:07):
the things like I keep going back to the person
in the comments section that said, to whatever these young men,
I ain't gonna go back over the story. If we
only knew who the real enemy is was I say, is,
then we would focus so much more of our time
on that. And I truly do believe that over the
next several years we will be.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Meeting and I don't want to say it as if
the enemy.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Hasn't always been around, but we'll be meeting the enemy
in reform and have to stand up to that. Let
me tell you my thought of the day. So you know,
yesterday a video of Donald Trump talking about some of
his policies and some of the first one hundred days
(10:57):
like things he intends to do, was released, and one
of the things that he touched on was that he
will be immediately addressing the gender affirming care and stopping it.
Only two genders that will be acknowledged is male and female.
(11:18):
And you know, there will be no more puberty blocking medicine.
Any doctor who is found to be administering and prescribing
those types of medications for minors, they will not be
eligible for Medicaid, and medicare to go to their medical
facilities and they'll be placed on different lists or whatever,
(11:42):
so they will not be allowed to care for minors
who have any kind of you know, that they're transitioning
in any way. And you know, in the caption of
the person who posted the video I saw, they said
that zero point zero zero six people, like some very
(12:05):
very small number of kids identify as transgender at a
very you know, minor kids. Now, you know, throughout the campaign,
there was this whole thing about there being a youth
or kids that go to school and then when they
get back from school they're either And I'm really literally
(12:30):
trying to paraphrase it because I think for me to
sit here and even repeat the stupid that I saw
that people leave home, go to school, and come back
there was a boy when they left, and they come
back a girl, I can't even repeat that and make
sense of it. So I'm gonna say that what they
probably meant is that the kid would go to school
(12:50):
and say, you know, I feel this way, and then
they come back talking about changing their sex, because I
just can't process the other thought because there's no way
that that can happen. There are not doctors in America
giving children sex changes or changing their gender. That is
not a thing, right, it is not a thing. But
(13:13):
the gender affirming care that is something that people have
had to get and had to consult with medical professionals about. Now,
first of all, let's just be clear the percentage, and
I've actually wrote this down that there is little to
no utilization of gender affirming surgeries by kids miners who
(13:40):
identify as transgender.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Little to none.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Also, I couldn't find the exact percentage, but I know
that everything I read said that it is almost like
no kids using gender affirming medication except in extreme circumstances.
So let me tell you when I read what an
extreme circumstance may be. It's not all about changing your
(14:04):
sex to something different, right, It's not all about gender
changing your gender. It could be that you are a
child who was born as a male assigned or a male,
and you have male genitilia, but then you also are
growing breast at the same time, right, and so a
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doctor will prescribe something that is a puberty blocker that
basically will stop the breast from growing so that you're
not walking around in society, especially as mean as kids are.
When you go to school, you in the boys' bathroom,
or you are playing sports with boys and you are
a boy, but you also have breast because that's growing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That is a thing, Okay, It is also a thing
that a little girl could have her.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Female genitalia and then be growing a beard and having
hair growing in places because there is something chemical imbalance
or whatever that's happening within her. I don't know if
that's the correct word, but I would assume it's a
chemical imbalance when you have two different things going on
at once.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
When I was a kid, I grew up.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I had a jaj and the vejj and the breast
grew at the same time. I never was in a
situation where all of a sudden certain things made me
feel like I.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Was boy and then.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, like whatever, whatever, whatever can be the I don't
want to misspeak about it because it's too serious. Right,
And so you have doctors that see these things. You
might have a child who is extremely depressed, who is
suffering with, you know, issues, looking at themselves. They're very confused,
and there are doctors out here who know what to do.
(15:44):
Now are there doctors that might be actually working with
and supporting a child who's saying I am not a girl.
I feel like I'm something else and I want to transition.
Maybe they are, but the statistics, the data shows that
that is happening at.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The low, super super super super low rate. So it's not.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
As someone else said to me, someone we both love
and care for said to me, it's not important at
all that it should not be happening at all, because
it's not important to give children gender affirm and care.
I don't agree with that, but here's what I say
to all the people that I'm watching online who have
so much to say about this topic. It is true
(16:28):
that this is a very very minute issue that is
not happening at large rates to a bunch of kids
everywhere you go, because I've asked you, I've asked other
friends of ours, I've asked family members how many of
y'all the kids in the class are transgender? Or your
kids went to school, came back and said, I feel
like I should be something else, and most people are
(16:49):
telling me that didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But you know what is at high rates mass school shootings.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
You know what else is a high at high rates
fenton all deaths among young people. So it is interesting
to me right that this person who people think is
the big bad wolf. He's the big bad Trump that's
coming in to deal with this thing that is this small.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Is this small, and.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yet these other things are this big. And his top
priority is to address this. You know why, because what
he's not getting ready to do is go tell the
NRA and the gun companies that they have to do
something to stop guns from getting into the hands of kids.
That's what he's not gonna do. What he's not gonna
do because he didn't do it while he was president
(17:35):
before and he had no intention of doing it now.
To address the issues that Congress has laid before the
Republican Party to say, sign on to this that will
help us to deal with people who have access to
guns with mental health, who have access to guns, as
they say the Beltway or whatever they call it, where
there's guns that's being traffic up and down our community.
(17:58):
And by the way, this is before are the quote
end quote border crisis, because what about the fact that
there are companies that profit they make money off of
So you can't blame this on the immigrants.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You gotta look at the people.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It's like they say, drugs aren't being made in the
black community, so why is it that only people in
the community are being held accountable for the drugs. Why
are you not You should be out immediately talking about
finding ways to crack down on these gun companies and
the NRA.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You know what else he's gonna do. Oh, he said he's.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Gonna target Big Farmer to make sure that they stop
with gender affirming drugs. Will he also deal with the
fact that they have profited off of and marketed opioids
and fentanol and other drugs to our community.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Are they gonna do anything about that?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
You know why because those are his boys, those are
his donors, those are his people. So it's interesting to
me that people feel, which is true, that the issue
of gender affirm and care is something that it's small,
it's not something that should be significant, We shouldn't be
focused on it. Okay, If that is in fact the truth,
then why in the first days of his announcements did
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he not say I'm gonna get to this because I
have an issue with this, and it seems that a
bunch of Americans also have an issue with this because
we know black folks, we know people of all races
that have an issue with the agenda affirming thing. But This
is not as significant as the fact that your child
and my child are more likely to go to a school,
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a mall, a skating rink, or somewhere and get shot
by somebody who happens to be a person that has
a gun in their hand because they probably have some
mental health issue, right, or to get drugs out of
the hands of our kids.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Everything you said is on point, you know, And I
tell people all the time. Donald Trump is a master manipulator, right,
He's figured out and now he lined hisself with Elon Musk,
you know, and he's figured out how to target certain
things that he know triggers people like as a man,
like as an alpha male, you want you you you,
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especially when you're young. In the black community, we've been
taught we've been taught a lot of things about that
they're trying to demasculate. They're trying to emasculate us, and
they want us emasculate us, and they want to feminize.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Us and all those things.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So those are fears that we have, right, So you
fear everything. You're like, no, we're not. We're in a way,
We're not gonna let our kids be emasculate. We don't
want that for our kids. So he stokes that fear,
even though as you grow older, you know, when I
was twenty and all that those things were prevalent. In
my mind, I ain't gonna be around a gay person.
I'm gonna stay it worth for this. And as you
grow older you're like, well, that's their part, that's their issue,
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that's the that's their reality, that's how they live their lives. Right,
They're not bothering me. They're not imposing anything on me.
It doesn't it's not rubbing off on me. I'm who
I am and they who are, and everybody is an individual,
and you start to realize, well, that person, that's the individual.
He's not doing nothing to me. She's not doing anything
to me, So why is that such a big deal.
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But what Trump knows is that it's inside our community.
It's a certain thing that it's a conversation within our community.
So he plays on that. So when he says we
don't want no transgender and we don't want this, he
knows that the average person, especially a male who feels
he's a strong male, is going to say, yeah, we
don't want that. Far kids, even though you don't see
it for your kids. When you go to school, you
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don't see it. That's not something your kids are not
coming home saying, hey, this will happen to my school today.
You know, they tried to tell me I was trained
or I went to school and they taught me about
this is not conversation that happening. But he knows how
to stoke that fear. He knows if he constantly says that.
He knows if he constantly says that, even if it's
not happening, it's just like they're eating the cats and
they're eating the dogs. Even if it's not happening, people
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keep on the migrants are raping and killing you, even
though the percentage of that happening is damning.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So that's what the thing is.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He focuses on the low vibrational shit that he knowsh
triggers you, right, So when I have a common day,
like yo, they given. I had a conversation with a
guy in Michigan and we just talking about the election.
He's liked, I ain't voting. I ain't voting nothing. He said,
i'mnna ask you a question, man. It's Kamala Harris given
transgender operations in jail.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I said, what do you mean she's giving people operations?
Is that's what she's doing?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Because I've seen the commercial to say that, I said, well,
I don't know the particulars of it. I don't know
what if it was a health situation or whatever, but
I heard that there was one situation with that it happened,
and it was probably you know, the person had some issues.
I didn't read the whole thing, but it's not a
normal thing that happens every day. He said, well, I
don't want nothing to do with that. I said, well,
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how many? I said, think about this? You so focused
on that the possibility of that affecting your life is what?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How many have you been to person? He said yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I said, have you been around where somebody had a
sex transfer operation or anything?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He said no. I said, if he did, how would
it affect you?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You go to your cell that person or they sell,
how would that affect your direct life? He said, I'm
saying I just don't want it anywhere. I said, okay,
and I get it. You might not want it because
that's why you don't got it. I said, but if
he gives the police immunity, right, you think that's gonna
affect your life more than that on the one percent
chance of that you because you out here every day
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with the police.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You walk every day, your friends get arrested, they gather.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So imagine if the police had immunity right and they
was able to pull you over and do what they
want to you. Do you think that affects you more?
Or that that one operation that somebody had in the prison.
And he said, you're right, I said, because that's what happens.
They get you to focus on shit that really don't
that don't really affect you, and it don't really matter
to you, right, but.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You just the thought of it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
He knows that it triggers something in you as a male,
because you feel it.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So this is what he does. He figures out how
to trigger things in you.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
That actually the percentage of them having everything because they
talk about the migrants every day, and I know we
have immigration problem.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
We know, well, let's not say we have an immigration
problem because they take little words, but there is in
fact a situation with the immigrant community, the migrant community
that needs to be addressed, needs to be a dressed,
it needs work, it.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Does any serious work, and they and they figured out
how to compound it they figured out, you know what
we're gonna do. We're gonna make sure that when we
get to the immigrants inside of Arizona, when we get
them inside of Florida, we're gonna shift them to one
that We're gonna shift them in Chicago, We're gonna shift
in LA and we're gonna shift in New York to
the Democratic States to where they overload, to where it's
hundreds of thousands of them. And they look and then
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people see it, like you look at them, it's busses.
They done took over this. They figured out how to
make it look like it's a bigger issue because so
they and they focus on that, and they make you
focus on that. And the reality is I've lived the
once immigrants and migrants my whole life. But my whole
life I live in the Bronx. It's a melting pot.
Every time the new immigrant class coming, they come to
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the Bronx. You know, I remember when the Dominicans came here.
I remember when Africans came here. I remember when Venezuela.
Like you watch them come in. We figured out how
to live with each other. Some of them my best friends.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And the interesting thing about it in my opinion is
that I know a lot of I know a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm like you.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I grew up in the Bronx and Harlem and then
to the Bronx, and I know a lot of people
who are immigrants. I mean a lot of people who
are immigrants, or at least the parents were immigrants, or
the child might have been born in the United States,
but the rest of their families immigrants. And I can
tell you right now that those people are mainly the
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most peaceful people I.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Know, the.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Citizens that I had to run from. So I'm just
saying like, and it's very intention very intentional.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And they figured it out, and they looked at the things,
and I'm telling you, they have study groups. They sat
down with the study groups. What what is going to
trigger these people the most?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Because we keep saying it, whether it is or not,
we're going to keep on stoking that fear, and that's
gonna be the main thing that they focus on.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
They're gonna get so focused on the ship.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That don't matter, that's barely happening, that the zero point
one percent happening, that they're gonna forget about the real
ship that's going on. Right So that's that's what that's
what Donald Trump has done. And you know, like, once again,
I do not agree. I do not think any child
should be should be affirming any gender as a child.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I just don't know if that's a thing. I don't
think this is my person.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You know, you and I have had this conversation rigging
him around the rosie and I you know, I appreciate
the fact that your position is your position and it
is what it is. But I do wanted to make
sure make sure it's clear that we are okay with
children affirming.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
What we learn to be fact. So let's just be
clear when when.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
We have we're children and years and it whatever whatever time,
some already said this is what is going to be called,
this is this, and that's that male female and.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Those kids that say I'm a boy, I'm a boy.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
No one has a problem with that, if not no one,
But people don't have an issue with that. So we're
okay with kids affirming what has been the social construct
that they are assigned to. What we have an issue
is them saying I feel like something else is happening.
That's when we're like, well, I don't believe that a
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kid should have the right to that. Now, I do
agree with you. I agree with you one hundred I
just want to make sure that the premise is clear.
But I do agree that a child should not be
able to make a life altering decision before they become
an adult, because that does not mean that I don't understand,
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believe in one hundred percent feel that parents that know
their children are going through something because I've had parents
sit in my face and tell me. We tried to
ignore it, We tried to do therapy, We tried to say,
maybe the child is just crazy, weird, this all kinds
of things because we were ignorant. But once we begin
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to try to understand our depressed child, our child that
was withdrawn, our child that was cutting it him or
herself or doing certain things. After we tried to understand
and they were able to open up to explain to
us that they don't feel like the body that they're
in is who they truly are, then we had to
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figure out a way to wrap care around them, to
take them to the right. Not just any psychic, because
you got psychiatrists and therapists who also don't agree, who
might be sitting there telling the kid, oh, you just
you know, you need these pills to make you you know,
like like I don't know the right pills. So again,
I don't want to just be throwing things out, but
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you could give kids stuff or people things that dope
them down, make them feel like, you know, more depressed,
instead of trying to help them figure out how to
cope with the situation that they're in. And so with
that being said, right, I do believe that families should
be supportive of their children and trying to understand what
the kid is experiencing and educating themselves.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
But I do not believe that a.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Twelve year old, a ten year old, a fourteen, fifteen,
even sixteen year old should be able to go to
their parent and say, okay, now I'm ready to change
my genitulia from one.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Thing to the next. I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I don't now if they say that they they want
their name to be something different, and they go to
their family, and the family sits together and work out
an understanding, and it takes a lot, it's a lot
of therapy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It's a whole lot. And I think your children are
worth investing in that way in them. But I don't
think that people should be changing their sex at before
they're grown and able to fully understand the decision that
they're making. Nevertheless, it's happening at the lowest rate of anything.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Right, And I agree, I agree. I just said that's
what I say.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I just believe that, you know, as children, we make
a lot of harsh decisions, brass decisions, or decisions that
we're not one hundred percent aware of. Like I've watched now,
I've been a fifteen sixteen thought I knew everything. It
was like, Noah, nah, I want to do this, I'm
gonna do this. And then by the time I was
nineteen twenty, I'm like, I don't even know what made.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Me do that.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So those are realities, and then there's just the reality
that we just don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
If you're not somebody who identifies as trans, or you're
not somebody who's dealing with that reality, you don't know.
So I'm not I don't want to put anything on
somebody else based on my reality and based on my experiences,
because my experience is not your experience the way that
you deal your brain doesn't work like mine, your body
is not working like mine. So I don't have the
right to impose my mentality, in my emotions and my
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physical feelings on you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's just not right to me. But I do not.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Believe that we should be making those lifetime decisions before
a person is an adult person. I think then you
let that adult person make those decisions because at that
point they can't blame that on anyone but themselves, and
they're fully aware. I just don't that's just what they
can't give put that on anyone else for themselves not blame.
It is your decision to make, and I think an
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adult should be able to.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Do that, you know, so I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I believe that they're trying to tell us that they're
trying to emasculate men, especially black men, and I want
to clarify that there is definitely an attempt to emasculate
black men. Is when you look at TV, when you
look at a lot of different things, you know, this
whole toxic masculinity thing that's over I feel like it's
oversaturated as used in too many point of views, and
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everything is not toxic masculinity. I believe there are things
that are masculine that we do as men that is toxic,
but I can't believe that everything that we do because
a lot of those things are we are taught to
utilize those for survival. And I say this all the time.
A lot of things that people say it's toxic masculinity.
If I when I was in prison, if I didn't
utilize those things, I probably wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
But does that mean it's toxic, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I can't tell you it's time because it was survival mode.
It was things that we use to survive there. When
you become when you are in a jungle, you know,
and you around wolves, you're either gonna be a predator
or you're gonna be pray.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Right once they sense that.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You pray and you and you you crying, and you
emotional and you you can cry all the time, and
you got to explain all these things that that doesn't
work in real life where we are and the real
where where I'm from, it just doesn't work. So you know,
I know that those things are real, but I also
know that we lack a lot of emotional intelligence. We've
utilized those things that whenever we can't get our way,
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or we don't know how to express something, or we
feel pain, we react with this level of aggression that
I believe is toxic. So those both those things can
exist at the same time.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
And need to break it down.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
We definitely need to break it down, and I think
we should.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Those are conversations we should be having, but we should
not allowed those things to allow us to impose our
will on other people and the things in the realities
that they go for, and and not to allow them
to trick us by using the trans community or the
LGBTQ community against us, because those individuals are dealing with
their own, you know, their own situations. So when when
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you start realizing that, you start to evolve and you
start to grow, you started realizing that a lot of
things that we took as serious or a lot of
things that we were taught were just wrong. Like you know,
we we really as a young black boys in our community,
we targeted those people. We felt like it was like
a plague. And as you grow older, these are just individuals.
These are people were just different realities. I have people
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who that are gay, that are lgbt and trans that
they are cool people, don't you know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's not that I know a lot, but.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I've been around them and they and they were fine.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And respect. They didn't have the.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
They were human beings and their reality was just different
than minds every respect we have friends.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Have you in this industry, if you've been this industry
long enough, then you've been around gay and trans people.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That's just the reality of what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I don't know about trans people though, maybe they just
never say inside the industry, oh okay, okay, okay, because
I think that's another thing is that people when they
don't experience something or they haven't been around it, they
listen to whatever they hear on these shows and they.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Listen they've been in this industry for years.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, I'm just saying, until I became until my.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Older years as an activist, I never I did not
meet I had not met a openly trans person. That
was not something that I was introduced to. And once
I did, and once I did, I was.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Like, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
My first reaction certainly was not a positive one, like,
let's just be honest, because I had been told they're this.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
So you're trying to tell me you never was around
men that were dressed like women that were like fully dressed.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Now, what my experience was more of the opposite my
in my life, may have been one or two men
that were like kind of like rich what's his.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Name, Richie, little Richard, little.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Richard, like kind of like that, right, like a little
and I'm yeah, yeah yeah, and a little princey, right.
But they weren't called trans right, Like when I say
trans gender, I mean that this is a person who
has fully decided they not this, they're they're that. So
what I experienced was people who were gay, and mainly
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it was women who dressed up and behaved more masculine,
like that's how you knew something's up. Maybe there was
a boy that was a lot more feminine and so okay,
but that was rare because again, dealing with people's trauma,
a lot of young men did. They never were able
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to really show you that it was an act of
rebellion for a woman to be like this is me.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Like two women were living together and everybody knew in
the building like that.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's a little strange because usually the is man and
women with children. So when two women, especially with no
kids or older kids, were living together in the projects,
you kind of it was like whispers about it, but
it wasn't a big bowld conversation. Very rarely did you
have a man who was outwardly openly gay, And if
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you did, he was very flamboyant, like right, and maybe
he kept it himself. That wasn't my experience.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It just wasn't.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
And and by the way, later in life, I was told, oh,
you know, so and so was whatever, or if a
family member died of like HIV or something like that,
like they said, well, you know he was into this
or he was dad in the third, But that wasn't
what he did. When he came to my parents' house
or he went to my grandmother's house, or I saw
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him at family thing.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
You see him at the family thing.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
He done turned into the most masculine man ever.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And then when he's house that's what. That's what. That's
my experience.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
We know it's there. As I got older, I began
to understand it. When I was eight year nine, ten
eleven years old, I didn't see that. I saw more
women than I did men. So I'm just saying, when
you don't know, then when I met someone like that,
I'm like, oh my god, Like what do I say?
You know, I was all like, oh, I'm all uncomfortable.
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I don't know how I got to speak to them.
I don't say this, don't say that, And it ended
up being that the person is kind of like relax
first of all. Second of all, it's not that deep.
I understand that you don't know, and so I can
help you along. And it's not that serious then and
nowaday like it's not that serious.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It really is not that serious.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
So anyway, moving right along, the team mind of today
has to go to our dear brother, trick Daddy. Now,
now let me say this right. I first of all,
had opportunity to meet Trick Daddy one time. We were
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on Love and Hip Hop, and he's fairy, he's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
He's funny. He reminds me of my family.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
My parents are from Alabama, and you know, my mother's
from Alabama. My father's ofm North Carolina. My mother's family
is deep, deep, deep deep deep South, and you've met them.
These folks, they are hilarious, they are Southern as hell, and.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
He could fit right.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
All you gotta do is bring him to the family event,
give him a chair and sit him down, and he
could get right into the conversation because that's people. He
would be beloved in my family. That's how my family
members are. But he said the other day that he
doesn't understand why people want to put Afro in front
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of his of the title for like who he is
his culture African American, because I ain't never been to Africa.
I ain't thinking about Africa. I heard it was a
nice place, It's beautiful and all of that, but I
ain't no African and I'm not whatever. You know, And
you know, his point is like, he don't need to
be attached to African, he can just be American.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And I feel like.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
We are literally only people in the world that run
from our heritage so much so that part of the
reason why we experience the trauma that we go through
in this nation is because we are unwilling to accept,
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to own, to understand, to learn about our culture, where
we come from, and what has happened to us and
how we ended up where we are. And then the
type of mechanisms, the type of unity, the type of
strategies that we have to use that draws upon our
history and our culture in order for us to be
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able to change our circumstances in this.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Nation, and and and and in this world. And I saw.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
In the comments, people like, yeah, he might have said
this too, but I can't remember, so I don't want
to attribute attribute it to him that people white people
don't say that they are European right, which is not true.
There are white people, many of them who know I'm
a European American, a Caucasian or European American here here
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in this country. I've never ever met, not once in
my life have I met an Asian who said, you
can't call me an Asian American right, or a Latino American.
People love to identify and own their heritage and their
culture right and only we as and I can't say,
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let me go back and not say only we, because
maybe it's not just only we, but it's prevalent among
our community that we are very unwilling to own, like
it's almost like Afro right. It's like it's like a
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it's like a disease on us.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
And then the other part of it.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
So my Tami is that for me, I feel like
trick Daddy might not understand how damaging it is when
you have such a big platform and you say things
like that what it does and how it impacts our youth,
and how it really chips away at our powerful, amazing heritage, right,
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Like we didn't just we didn't just pop up here.
There is a story that goes from a long way
that brings us to where we are today. And there
is nothing wrong with us owning that heritage and that understanding,
and our young people listen to us, and.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Then they become in the wilderness.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Right, because if you don't know who you are, where
you've been, what your heritage is, you can't possibly know
where it is that you're going now. You know, I
also feel like well, and I think, yeah, this is real. Right.
Most of the Jewish people I know, their children learn
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about their culture, they learn their culture.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
They never will say to you.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm just an American. They are proud to say I'm
a Jewish American. Maybe they don't say it in every
room because they deal with very real anti Semitism and
so sometimes they have to assimilate. But that's exactly what
you're doing when you say I'm not Afro nothing, I'm
just American.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah. I think Trick is bugging you know. I love Trick,
that's my boy.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
But sometimes Trick says some things that you're like, you know,
I think, especially Trick you know, being as southern as
he is in the richness of the black culture that
he has, right and understanding that southerness, it brought some
of the mother land here.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Like you can you it's still in you.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Like when you go deep South, you can feel the
roots of Africa in the deep South, they still have
the roots there. So when you disconnect yourself from that,
you know then and then you try to assimilate, and
you can already see they don't want you here.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
They're not, they don't. They separate you every every.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Time they get a chance, they say, African Americans, they
don't want you to ever think that you just and
you should. You should grab on and hold it and
look into your heritages and understand how rich your heritage is.
You know, you know a lot of people there are
a lot of people that say that though, like you know,
a lot of people say, I never been to Africa.
I don't know nothing about Africa. And that's what happens
when you disconnect the people from their culture. Right, you
(44:14):
don't have Asians that will say that they are never
just going to tell you the American they just not
because they've been brought up in their heritage. They've been
brought up in their culture. You know, they have their customs,
they have the language that they still identify with, all
of the things they can bring. They show you the
history and they make you proud of that history. So
(44:35):
I think has happened a lot of people want to
disc connect themselves from the African culture and history because
they don't see the richnesses and they don't see the
powerfulness in it. They think it's some level of weakness
or it's some level of you know, beneath because a
lot of people within America try to push that on them. So,
you know, I think it's a lot of people who
(44:57):
who don't understand how connected you need to be to
your culture, how we need to maintain our culture and
our heritage and be proud of that heritage. You know,
in America will make you believe that you need to
abandon that and you need to be a part of
me because oh, you're not American. If you're not from America, Listen,
(45:18):
I'm from America. I was born and raised in America.
But I understand my heritage. I understand where I come from.
I understand exactly what I've been through, understand you know,
the things that my ancestors had to do to actually
get here.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
And I'm proud of that.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I'm proud that despite all of the things that we
went through, you know, as in Africa when we were
kings and queens. I want to be able to identify
back to that. I want to be able to have
that heritage, right. I don't want just the you know,
the culture of blackness to start in America, because to me,
that wasn't a good start, you.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Know, right right as you said, like, our beginnings here
were not that great, and there were those who traveled here,
which we learned even before Christopher Columbus, and so we
as Africans had already.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Set our feet on this st on this soil.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Right, we had already before Christopher Columbus claimed to discover America,
Africans had already discovered that this land was here. And
of course we know that the natives to this land
were thriving on it, right. And so when I hear that,
it makes me think about Marcus Garvey's quote where he
(46:32):
talks about up you Mighty race.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
He talks about.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
Us being brought here, robbed from our homeland, robbed of
our names, robbed of our culture, robbed of our religion,
robbed of our dignity and self respect.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
And you know, and he says we shall rise, But.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I don't know that you can rise without knowing where
you come from and never being in a place where
you want to disconnn with the thing that actually gives
you so much greatness, it actually sets you aside. And
I saw so many people writing, oh, because the Africans,
they don't want us, no way, And that is the
(47:12):
biggest lie that's ever been told. That's another thing that
is misinformation. I always tell people, for the most part,
if you are a person, if you are a person
who has never been to Africa, when you say Africans
don't want us, they don't love us, they don't respect us,
(47:33):
they don't like us, just know that for the most part,
those are Americanized Africans who learn the same disrespectful shit
you've learned. That's really the truth, the same disrespectful, rude
cultural issues that we as Americans have here. Those Africans
(47:57):
more than likely are Americanized and they come here and
they learn the same thing everybody learns that quote unquote
black people, which black is considered a race because it
is used obviously on every application or whatever. If you
notice they try to change it to African American. But
sometimes you'll still see them use race. I mean still
(48:19):
see the application or something used black. But black is
actually not the race. It is not the race.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
But nonetheless, you know, when you meet these people who
are Africans here in America, they're exposed to the same
things that we've been exposed to.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
So just like we can be rude, so can they.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Well, when you travel to Africa, when you actually touch
that motherland, you do not find Africans that are mistreating
African Americans. The main thing we heard every time we've
been to Africa, and now it's been a number of
times and places that we have travel, what we always
hear is we've.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Been waiting for you. Thank you for coming here. We love,
welcome home.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
So again we have to put things to come we loved. Yes,
I'm sure you have encountered an African person who has
treated you like shit. I've been in uh taxi cabs
and others where I really am like wow, like damn,
you just gonna disrespect me.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
But that is not the culture. That's our culture in America.
That these people have adopted to all right, because that
is not.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
What happens when you go to Africa.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
It is not I don't think I have ever when
when the times that we've been in Africa, I have
never experienced a feeling of racism or like I was
unliked or mistreated.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Never, not one time, have you?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I mean no, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I've actually felt loved everywhere until people all the time.
You know, you need to go to Africa. South Africa
is beautiful, Ghana is beautiful, Nigeria is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Like it's something that you actually need to do.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I have to do so that narrative, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Sorry, Trick, you know I love you, but you're gonna
have to grab onto that Afro because use an Afro.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
American, and you know, the darker we are, they definitely
associate us with our culture.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
And I love it. I own it, and I'm happy
to say.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
I mean sometimes I'm more into the Afro than I
am the American.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Well look at God, you know. So that brings me
to my music segment today, right, we was talking about
I was talking about at the beginning of the show,
how many people have lost their life and this last
couple of weeks and how you know, I was just
trying to find I've been trying to write music actually
because I wanted to talk about it. But it was
(50:57):
just a song that touch me by Toby and g Way,
and it's called when God Cracks the Sky. You know,
it's not exactly talking about it, but it's just talking
about he has his daughter on his shoulders and he's
just in the whole way, and it's like he's talking
to her about how much he loved her and he's
going to take care of her, and he was laying
(51:17):
with her, and she didn't underst she didn't even understand
how with laying with He didn't even understand what laying
with her meant to him until he actually did.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
It, you know what I'm saying. So it just it
just touched me in a different way.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
If you got a chance, please go listen to it,
When God Cracks the Sky shout out to Toe. We
got to get in the studio, Like he's one of
my favorite artists right now, and it's a dope song.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
When God Cracks the Sky. I have to check that out.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
That sounds like it's a lot of different artists on there.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I love him and his wife and his family. Yes,
it's just beautiful.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, they've they've created something. And it just shows you
that's that's nothing but Africa. That's Afro. You know what
I'm saying. That's when you come from the motherland. Man,
you can everything else, but don't take that ad for
off your name, trick baby, because that thing right there,
like that coming from them drums man, when you listen
to that music, it has the richness. Now we go
(52:11):
to my I don't get it. Now, I don't get it.
It brings us back to the beginning as well. You know,
we was talking about Trump, and we was talking about
how he talked about his plan for the first one
hundred days, and you know, people can constantly tag me
and stuff, and one of the things that he said
that was very interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
He said that he's going to grab up all the gangs,
all the gang members.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
He's gonna lock him up, and he's going to give
the death penalty for drug dealers.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
And I've seen a lot of people that's like, yes,
that's right, Well, you just need to stop selling drugs.
You need to do this, and you need to do that.
A lot of people. That was like, to me, it
didn't make sense. It's like, you know, coming from the
communities that I come from, and it.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Was crazy to me. Is that a lot of these
people right that was rooting for Trump?
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I know them, right, I know that some of your
former some of y'all still dibbling, dabbling. Some of y'allre
definitely gang members. Whether you're doing a positive or not.
You you attached the gang, right. So I'm saying to myself,
did this really make sense?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (53:20):
But the real thing that I did not get is
everyone was so critical.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Joe Biden made the four Crime Bill.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
And then fourty four. Yeah, well listen whatever ninety four
one three, what it was in the nineties, Joe Biden
they called him. They call him crime Bill Boden. He
locked up black people. He locked people up for drugs.
He locked him up, locked him up too with from
their family. Oh, he's the worst person in the world.
(53:50):
He locked up black people. I said, Okay, I get it.
You know they said, Kamala Harris a prosecutor, she locked
up black people. No, no, can't vote for her, locked
up black people. No, No, I can't believe you. Over
tom as a prosecutor. They locked up black people, locked
up black people. The same people that said they were
so anti body for the crime Bill, they hated Kamala
(54:13):
because she was a prosecutor and she locked up black people.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Was the same exact people trying to tell me.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
That they was gonna praise Donald Trump for giving drug
dealers to death.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Petalis.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
Now, I'm not a new that's not new, but I'm saying,
but I'm just I'm not the I'm not the smartest person,
but I know this.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
If I had to choose between somebody locking me up
for selling drugs and somebody giving me the death penalties
for selling drugs, I'm definitely gonna say that the death
penalty is worse. I'm gonna take that time, right because
a lot of the drug dealers that got locked up
for the crime, but they.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Home now, right, they home now. They they don't serve
their time, they don't changed their ways. They moving on.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
They they're able to look back on their life even
though they lost they lost time in their life, you know,
but they did they committee crimes and they might have
had excessive time.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
But once you give somebody the death penalty, they.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
Ain't coming back. So I'm trying to figure out why
y'all had all of this smoke for the crime bill,
and y'all had all of the smoke for Kamala because
she was locking people up they were selling drugs.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
But you don't got nowhere at all.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
And you telling me these people that were saying, Yo,
you know, I'm not with no no prosecutor locking people up. Man,
I'm you know, I'm with Trump, but you ain't. You
ain't saying nothing about the death penalty for drugs. Now
you're saying people need to stop selling drugs?
Speaker 2 (55:36):
Right?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
And what makes it really really serious? And I don't
have anything more to share, But the thing that is
really serious is that Trump also when he was in
office and it will continue now, and he put a
number of federal judges on the main thing. Then in
(56:03):
this when he becomes president again, he will have the
Supreme Court. He also well, he has the Senate, and
he may potentially it's looking closer and closer like he
may have the Congress, right or have Congress. Because I
always have to remind myself and others the Congress. The
Congress is the Senate and Congress together. But the Senate
(56:30):
and Congress are two separate entities, so he will have
all of that, plus the federal judges that he's placed
on the bench all around this nation. Okay, so when
you sold the bagawed, or your son or your nephew
or your friend sold the bagawed, maybe got caught with.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
You know, something that they shouldn't have had.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
Sure, they shouldn't have had it, but people do deserve
second chances.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Now you're telling me that the court.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
System under his control, with his judges that don't have
to have any care whatsoever about you as a good kid,
free pooky, none of that. They can convict you and
then send you on this path towards towards the death penalty.
And you're telling me that that makes more sense to
(57:24):
you than somebody else who was saying, we need to
figure out how to help you get a home and
help you build generational wealth and help you find ways
to not need to sell drugs or do drugs or
what have you. It doesn't make sense to me at all.
And I think when people get an opportunity to understand
what that trifecta plus the courts looked like, which means
(57:47):
the White House and the Senate and the Senate in Congress,
and then of course your federal judges when they have
an opportunity to see.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
How it looks.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
It is that there are no controls, are no guardrails.
There is no one there who will be able to say, well,
you know, we're not going to vote for that because
we don't you you might be saying, I don't agree
with X y Z thing. You would hope that there
is some body of government that can stop it. But
now he has the ability to push his ideology through.
(58:21):
And guess what most of the things that he is
speaking of in this last press conference are or in
the last speech that he made, these are all things
pulled directly from Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
Listen, man, I'm I'm not here to continue to debate
about these things. Were gonna am We're gonna because I'm
not debated.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
No, I'm not. I'm going to talk about it, but
I'm not going to debate.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
I'm going to We've already we got the president that
we have and we're gonna watch the cards for what
they made. Like we said before, until freedom gonna be outside,
we was gonna fight whoever was the president.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
You know, we we we.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
Realized that one was gonna be a hard upon it,
and we got the hard opponent, but we ain't giving
up the fight.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
But I just want as these four years.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Progressed, the people who made these decisions, like this decision
that tried to tell me that the crime bill was something,
but death penalty ain't. I just want you to constantly
just take a look in the mirror every every day.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
These as these you know, these.
Speaker 4 (59:20):
Stephen Miller being being a name to his deputy chief
of staff, and this.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Man is a raging race but they all raging racis.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
And I think Stephen Miller is something. I hear what
you're saying, something different. I'm just telling me it.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Ain't nothing different. This is this is the house that
Trump built. Trump came back for revenge.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (59:42):
That man then came here for revenge, and he gonna
put cases on all you.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
That's what he gonna do. Man.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
So I'm gonna let y'all know man, y'all wanted Trump,
y'all got Trump.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
With that said, I'm not gonna always be right, but
I know I'm right about Trump and Tamika marriage. And
I can always be wrong, but we will both always
and I mean always, be authentic.
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