Not What It “Post” to Be: From Breaking Ground to Breaking Through Guest- Dr. Shaunell Kennard

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm tak d Mallory and it shit Boy my Son
in general, we are your host of TMI.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Tamika my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
And Inspiration, New Energy. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
You know what's going on? We out here winning and winning.
You know what I'm saying, because it ain't what it
posted to be. Everybody out here booked and busy doing
the thing. You can't tell me that when you look
at Instagram, everybody ain't winning.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Not everybody, but most people.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Listen, Yo, If I was somebody who was less understanding
of social media, just less understanding marketing, promotion and how
people just utilize social media to present an image that's
not real, I would believe that I'm doing something. I
would think that I was actually losing. I'd be like, damn,
everybody got this, they got this and that. But I've

(00:51):
actually seen the guys tell someone, let me hold your money,
let me hold your change. I've been the person that
they did that, so I understand the game. I'd be like,
damn and these But the thing is, these young kids
they believe it, and they believe and they say goals. Underneath,
they pitch and they try to, you know, make it
this fast and click click, and if it don't go
to this fast and it ain't working, they don't understand it.

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So I'm glad that we're doing this. This is the
second installment of It ain't what it posts to be
because people is posting shit, they don't really be.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
What I'm thinking that some people are posting on what
it really is. It's just that they don't dwell on
the hard times too.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And so then it's like you get mixed messages.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
But as we said last week, a lot of times
people be telling you about their hard times and it's
like you just go ass.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Old, you know, you don't even really hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
It's like I don't care about that, So you know,
whatever it is, what it is. I think that I
think that the point of the series is to help
everybody who is poor, people who are like this is.
I'm an entrepreneur. I just did installation of our exhibit.
It's beautiful, and nobody knows that I had to use

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the money that the client gave me to pay the
vendors who moved it.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
In and who installed it.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I took that money and paid the rent, right Nah,
not even I pay Instead of me paying the vendor.
I paid my rent and now I'm on a hustle
to find money to pay the vendor before the vendor
reaches out to the client to say they never got paid.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's kind of stuff that happens.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And you, Paul, and like they said, we at the
point my own girl said the other day, ain't even
no more, Peter and Paul, we just robbing and paid it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Did anybody to get it?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's literally.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
For real, listen whatever any of you.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm serious, you'll think it's a part. Just think about you.
We literally just described the Ponzi ski.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
No, I think about it.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Money and somebody gives you this money and you think
that they have it. And by the time when everybody,
if everybody asked for their money at the same time,
that's when you.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Realize, well, that's how it happened to Bernie made Off.
That's what happened. These people went to Bernie made Off
and said, let me get let me let me hold something.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Isn't that what happened when people came, everybody asked Bernie
for his money around the same.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Way he has.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Because everybody gives you money thinking you got okay, yeah,
you put your money in the bank, and that's how
a bank will close because the bank is really a
big Ponzi scheme. They're holding your money and making money
with your money and replacing and putting back so when
everybody wants their money at the same time.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's why they have a policy at certain banks that
you can't get over like a thousand dollars. I remember
one time I walked into a bank where I have money,
not the main bank that I use, but I have
another bank where I just like stuff a little bit.
And I walked into the bank. It was a it's
a black owned bank too. I walked in and I said,

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I wanted, I don't know, let's to say, I don't know.
I make up a number of five thousand dollars. I
don't remember what it was it was, but it was
a significant amount of money. And they were like, no,
you have to make a reservation. You have to tell
them today and then they call you and tell you
when they have it, and you come back and get it.

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I said, what kind of shi t is this? You
were supposed to be able if I need to run
today right now, I need to be able to go
get my money.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
My uncle.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I still believe and I'm pretty sure that my cousins
have torn up some parts of the ground trying to
figure out where the money might be. Because he believed
in burying cash. He believed in stuff it in plastic
and putting it underground and in other pockets other places. Now,
when he died, he wasn't incoherent to the point where

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he couldn't and talk like I mean, well, maybe when
he died, but up until the point of his death,
he was still lucid enough to be able to say
it's over here or back there whatever. But he has
a lot of property, and depending on whether he felt
like telling them or not, they might not know. They
may find that stuff, you know how many years from now.

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But he did not believe in taking all his money
and putting it in one place. I know a lot
of people like they just do not believe it because
if I wake up in the morning and the monsters
are after me, what are you supposed to do? How
do you get your money to fact so, But then
you can't keep your money in your house because the

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other scheme is the people come up in there and
run your shit.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
They take they take the safe out, the dough.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
They gonna look for it. Once they know you got
some money in the house, they're coming to get it.
These people, it's serious, are him.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
So it's like it's hard because they and then they
they have videos online where they show you how to
hide the money in your house, Like, well, damn it.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
If you're telling me the light switch the case off and.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Then put it in something and do something and stuff
it in there, Like if you're telling me that on
the internet, then when the people come, they going for
the light switches. That mean what damn But but it's people,
definitely they got money stuff in the wall. There are
folks that will not take all their money, especially older people.

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We have been socialized to use the bank and matter
of fact, we don't even want no money. Most of
the people I know, I don't know if I well,
you definitely are like this because I'm just thinking about
how many times we've been in countries across the world
and you don't have five dollars of cash.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Because I lose I lose cash very fast, like I've
lost this summer. I went somewhere not even far and
lost one thousand dollars just fell out my pocket. Like
I don't know how to but can we talk about.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Let's get into why. Let's get into why.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, this is some of the ignorance in my mind
of of what men think about having a bag. Right,
this man refuses to wear the thing across him. He'd
be like, Nah, some people, you know, I think they
look good in it, and it's cool.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm not wearing I just but.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know what, they just got this new thing, like
a little mini vest. It looks like the little and
it has the two things on its side. It's like
a vest.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
And I just don't go with every outfit.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
No, you don't gotta war. You can wear underneath your
you can wear underneath your jacket. It goes with everything.
But but you think that the satchel goes with everything.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
YEA, a brown and a black. That's all you need.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's what I got.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, no, no, not the vest. Bruh.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's like the little vest. It's like the hoster, you know,
you know the hoster that they hold the guns in.
Oh my god, it's the same thing. It just ain't on.
It just don't come across from the middle.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Shout out to the dead homies.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's very It's just that last two weeks, like the
man shout out to the dead homies. Thinking anyway, the
bottom line is a nice bag. But then you a
person that will put the bag down and won't know
where it is.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
That's what the vest works better for me because I'm
putting that on, I'm never gonna take it off. It
ain't gonna fall out my pocket. It's gonna be on
me all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
And then so you're gonna wear at the vest every day?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, like you? We like you.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yes, I want to see this underneath.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
It don't have to be what I'm trying to tell you.
It don't have to be over your clothes. It could
be underneath and it fits you.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Let me show you this because you think I don't
want to see it now.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
So anyway, long story short, I know a lot of
people who don't put their money in the bank, but
we as I know, I move around sometimes with three
dollars like I have to find it at the bottom
of the bag. And it's not a good thing in
this time that we're in. I think I saw a
video yesterday where a person won the Publisher's clearing House

(09:16):
lottery and was getting a two hundred thousand dollars, a
two hundred plus thousand dollar check every year the publishing
clearing house. Folks file bankruptcy. Any people check is gone exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's not with the lump sum.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's what happened with the bank.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's still but anyway, perfect, it's still still what. There's
nothing wrong with the little It ain't for me. Let
the men be the men.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It looks I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't like anyway. So yeah, so you have to
take the lump sum. Anytime money.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
If you win the lottery and they tell you you
can take home two million dollars full, or you could
get two million point or two point five million over
a certain time, take the two million in.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Run the banks crash. People lost a full one kick
like it was a serious Yeah. Them people, them people
got that money.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Barney madeoff. Situation was real, like it was ready to
kill doc kill people.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, that's true. I gotta go back and watch it.
People killed them, say it was all they had.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Wow, wipe them people up, man.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
AnyWho, Let's get to my thought of the day. So,
speaking of people's money, Black Friday last week I talked
about this and the thought of the day. We ain't
buying it, and this is we ain't buying it part too.
I neglected to mention last week that Target stock dropped
a little bit more, three more dollars. The stock price dropped,

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so you know it is a continuous decline. They will say, well,
it's this, it's the tariffs, is this, and it's that.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
But guess what.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I looked at some other people stop, Walmart is up,
Costco is up and so and yours is a constant decline.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And guess what. I'm also not going to.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Allow you, either Target and or other individuals who are
naysayers or haters or just scary or whatever they may be,
to talk us out of what we know with our
own eyes and ears. When I go on social media
and I see people who posted a video about how

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they are grieving their separation from Target, and the comment section,
even on my own is full of folks saying, what.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's what y'all should do. Y'all should create a thing
to drop a video telling why you're not going to Target.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I know we've said that, but did nobody ever do
the work anyway? So and I see people saying, I
ain't going back. I haven't been there, I don't miss it.
I walk past it. You cannot tell me that that's
not hurting Target's bottom line, even if it's only one

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hundred thousand people, which over three hundred thousand people signed
up through targetfast dot org shout out to Jamaal Bryant. Right,
over three hundred thousand people signed up, But there's still
more people that don't ain't gonna sign up. They ain't
even know nothing about the Target. I didn't even sign up, right,
And I know a lot of people who ain't going

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back to Target. Folks are saying they can't even they
legs don't walk towards Target. Right. I saw a person
wrote I think it was actually Jamie, my best friend,
who wrote in the comments section that my physical body
can't go. I can't get there like the ancestors. The
spirit is between me and that. And I know some

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folks ain't that deep. They like, oh, please go the
ancestors about Target. What's the big deal? See, that's because
you you shortsighted on. And it's okay, because we're gonna
do the work for you. Right, We're gonna do the work.
We're gonna make the sacrifice for you. You can't understand
that it's a spiritual thing. First of all, there should
be a spiritual relationship between you and your money. Hello,

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there should be a spiritual thing. And guess what, during
the easy times, when we don't have as much of
it as we usually have, it's very spiritual.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's very spiritual.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
How you're gonna make it from day to day and
the decisions you have to make, where you're gonna put it,
where you're gonna How can you hold you know, how
do you hold it? What are the experiences that you
need to have. What are some of the things that
you're willing to give up. That is a whole process
that goes into the decisions you make around your money.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
So when you look at a company and say.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I and here's here's here, let me preach for a minute,
let me preach. Here is the spiritual component of it.
So the Carla Lee's on Instagram, doctor Carl Lee.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'm in love with her.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I just started following her videos the other day. It's
called at three Little Lee, three Little Lee. If you
want to find the sister. She was talking about the
phases of grief that she has gone through with her
separation from Target. And I have to keep reminding people
I know I've said this before. Folks probably like, oh

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my god, she just keeps beating the dead horse. But
it's important for the one who didn't hear it, and
also for the one who might be feeling like, damn,
you know, I did this. I did it for ten months,
eleven months. Now, I mean, it's time. I'm ready to
get back in there. They got the sales, they got
the five dollars, they doing the five dollar meals. You know,
they're doing all these things to get me back. And

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it's very convenient for me to go to Target, especially
during the holiday season. I don't have as much money
traveling across town and all of that is so much.
It's so it's just not convenient, and it's time, like
for me to be able to go back. Y'all ain't
finished with this boycott yet, Like what's up right for
those people who and the ones.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Who are like why not this one? And why not that?
She talked about.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
The steps of grief, and she said, first of all,
her separation from Target wasn't a boycott.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was a breakup. So she was done. But there
is a reason why.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
And it was in the comments section several times where
they were saying Target is like the man who promised
you he was different, and you committed to him because
you believed that he was going to be different, he
was going to do things differently, and then he broke
your heart.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And now not.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Only am I leaving you, I'm moving different from the
choices that I make and men going forward. And that
it is truly a testament to why the relationship with
Target was very different. Michelle Obama named them tarje and
people went there and had in some ways a spiritual

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relationship with their money, not with Target, but with their
money that this is a place that I can go to.
I get out my car with or without my kids,
and I'm away from In fact, I don't know if
people realize it. And a lot of Targets, when you
go inside, the service cuts off. You know that, like
you can't use your cell phone. You might find a
spot here or there, but a lot of times when

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you go through the parking lot and you go inside,
you can't.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Use your phone.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
So you're inside of this place and things that you
don't necessarily even need, but it makes you feel good.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
A little this and a little that, a little trinket.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
All. Let me put these pillows up. Or I can
change mytaws for the holiday. I can get a car.
Oh man, it's so and so birthday. Let me get
this car. While I'm here, let me try this new product.
Like this is the experience that people were having with
their money there.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
So when you you could tell me, oh, well, what
about all these other companies? But I didn't.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I did had that experience with so and so. I
don't have that experience with Meta. I don't have that
experience with such as I use these people as an
end to a mean. This is what doctor Lee said.
I used Meta as an end to a mean. I
need to get a message out. It gets out, that's it.
But when I went into Target, it was a different vibe.
It was a different feeling. And when the CEO said

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that this could have been my son speaking about what happened,
or no, he didn't say that. When the CEO said
this could have been one of my employees, like that
really resonated with folks. It pulled people closer. It's like, man,
this is really this is my spot. So when they
sided with and went along with the bigotry that is

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of Donald Trump and his administration, it hurt people in
a different way, and I'm proud of us that detached.
And it's almost a year. It's almost one year. I
have not stepped foot in a Target. I walked past
it and I see black people coming in and out,
and I don't get mad.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I pray for them. I pray that they will either
be touched and or that.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
The work that we're doing is going to uplift them
and help them. Whether they stop shopping at Target or not,
it will at least inspire them to say, damn, there's
some people out here who are sacrificing and really fighting
for me. And now that we've partnered with other folks
home depots, on the line Amazon of the specific Black

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Friday through Cyber Monday, it's for us for we ain't
buying it. It's the folks that we ain't buying. And
shout out to our sister Latasha Brown and the whole family,
Cliff Albright at Black Voters Matter, and there's a bunch
of folks fifty to fifty one. Those are some of
the most powerful organizers and young people that I've ever

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worked with.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
God blessed them. It's amazing to be with them.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
You got the folks at Indolon that are are managing
Palmara Figueroa. I mean, I will get my self in trouble.
You got the Evan and them from the Tesla boycott.
You've got people Nalini and WFP on Home Depot. Also,
you've got folks on Spotify. I mean, the list goes

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on and on and on of people who have come
together like Voltron to say that we're going to watch
where we put our money.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Especially in this season.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
The season should be about giving, but not the gift
of giving gifts that you're picking up from these big
box companies that have too much money and not enough
respect for our communities. What we should really be doing
is giving of our time, giving of our service, giving
of our aid, and giving of our resources to small
businesses who hire our people, who love our people, who

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come from our people. And That's what I'm all about.
So we ain't buying it. We ain't buying it, And
y'all some people gonna do Target, Home Depot and Amazon.
I'm finna do everything I could do through the whole
holiday season, and I'm not waiting to start on Black Friday.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I done already started. I've been buying.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Essential things that I absolutely have to have and I'm
gonna take it as long as i can.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
And that's just where we at, and that means beyond
holiday for me.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I don't need it.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's in my closet. I went to shop for a
this last thing. I'll say. I went to shop. I
have to. I had a.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Week of stuff and I needed to find some tights
because it's winter.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
You need tights again, ladies.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
And I also needed like a couple of little things
just to kind of sprinkle on this. You know, you
pull out your old, your winter stuff from last year.
You're like, man, this got land on it. You know,
this got this going on. So I was like, let
me get a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
And while I was in.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
The store, I got anxiety. I started sweating. It has
nothing to do with a boycott. So that's not the
story for people who are like, oh please, but I
just started getting it anxiety. I just start feeling uncomfortable
in the store. I start getting hot, which is perimenopause,
that is who But I start getting hot and just
feeling away. And I made the joke. I said, you

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know what it is. The Lord said, girl is in
your closet. That's why you feel for this anxiety. It's
not at the store. You'll have anxiety in the middle
of Bloomingdale's right now. And it ain't got nothing to
do with you. Ain't sick, nobody's doing anything to you.
There's nothing wrong with you. The reason why you have

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anxiety is because it's in your closet.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Already, and you need to go over there and shop
in that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You already have them two shirts that look exactly the
same because it got liant on one, Go get the
other one. That's exactly And that's what I'm doing. And
I don't feel bad.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Why should you? I mean, at this point you have
brought more clothing our pribably see anybody in the world
by it.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Ye, that is not true.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, that is not your You cannot say that when
your friends include miss can't disgrace.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You can't say that God buy the same one of
the clothes.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, no, that's not never, never, no way. You cannot
say that when Jennifer Williams is your friend. Do you
know how many clothes Jennifer Williams buys.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Listen, every time I hear you you saying, oh, I'm
going shop and I need to buy this I'm in
this store, this, and that, you'll call for a zoom
call in the middle of shopping somewhere like this is
what you.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Do not anymore, okay, whatever, You.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Had three or four stylists that always convince you to
buy two or three four things and then they bringing
you this, and then you go shop like I mean, listen,
you do what you want to do. But when I'm
just trying to say, the Lord told you it is
in your classes closet.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
So that is that is the thought of the day.
I don't think I gave a good thought of the day.
You know what my thought of to day is today,
y'all very simple. It's in your closet. Shop in your
closet because we ain't buying it. We ain't buying it
this holiday season. We ain't buying it. And it's already

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in your closet.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
All you got is it.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Not only is it in your closet, it's in your
storage room. You know where else it is. It's definitely
in your storage room. It is in your attic, it's
in your basement. It's at your mama's house. Okay, it's
in the bottom of the barrel. It's down there. It's
in the back of the closet. It's in the shoe
boxes that are stacked up to the top of the

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closet in the row behind that you have not seen
in years. The styles are coming back. The wide jeans
and pants are coming back. The shoes with the with
the with the wide heel is back. It's in your
You already have it. So you don't even need to
buy anything. The Christmas decorations, not from the last year

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because you like to change up, okay, cool, but the
ones from about three years ago that you still have,
that's in the in the go get those Christmas ornaments.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Mix it with a little bit of stuff from the
year before and the year after, and you.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Got a completely new design around your house. You already
have it. You already have plates for the dinner for Thanksgiving.
You already have everything you need. It is in your closet.
That's the thought of the day. Go shopping with the
stuff you already have. Y'all girls know, y'all got stuff
with tags on it.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
It's quick.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
We don't need to buy nothing. And guess what, we
ain't buying it?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
All right?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So that brings us to the TMI because I'm gonna
tell you right now, I'm finna pass out on the ground.
After doing this little bit of research, this TMI is called.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Not the kitchen you think.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
We started figuring out little titles for our segments. Now
this is a new thing. I love it. It's not
the kitchen you think.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
So did you know?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Did you know that you do not have to own
a restaurant to sell food on uber eats, So you
don't have.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
To have a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Now you still have to have a license, but you
could be selling the food out your house and then
put it on Uber eats.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So people out their kitchen. But how would you get
a license? So they give you a license free. People
have business in some trying to say okay, so well
it's still a business though, so that means and they
have to go through the process of inspection. If you
got a food handling.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
They don't even do the inspections. In New York City,
I know, the inspections dropped by like sixty percent since COVID,
so people start are just starting to get their updated grade.
A lot of people at the end of COVID had
grade pending or low grades, and they were waiting for
the new grades. To come, so you know they fixed
whatever the problem was and they didn't get it for years.

(25:57):
And I'm telling you there's actual articles out there that
shows that there was at least a sixty percent drop
in inspections. So you think they go into people's houses often,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I'm just saying that. I really don't know. I'm just saying.
If you're saying that you can have a food handler's license, right,
I think it's like somebody who has a truck, right.
People that selling food out of a truck truck is worse, now,
That's what I'm saying. And they have people that order
the food for.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
The a couple of trucks that's really clean.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Uber eats orders from trucks people can go to, like
trucks at are stationary. People order they have ubeds.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Let me help you understand that. You will me, okay,
among you understanding.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
That you ain't.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
People have weird ways about their homes.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
And I'm not saying they don't have weird ways about
the the restaurant, because restaurant could be worse. In the house,
tell you the truth, But in a restaurant you want
to that there's checks and balances, in a kitchen because
you're gonna have multiple people, you gotta owner.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
You got different people who are in there.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
You're suposed to have posed to have somebody that might
be cleaning up and people's homes. When when they cat
runs across the thing, nobody inspecting it can see whether
or not you're allowing your pet to eat off the
spoon that is just over there that the cat is

(27:28):
tasting it up real quick.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
They can't do that in the restaurant either.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
What do you mean in your house if the animal
lives there already?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The cat?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
O no, oh my sign?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
What restaurant do you go to that the cat is
a daily resident? Now that's them?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Delis that y'all eat?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, y'all be bugging my son, Be like, man, the child,
Let me get off of this thing. It's to your
mind for me, But maybe y'all think it's okay. But
I need to know that there is a a building
and I want to pray because I know you could
be in the building and the house is upstairs, and
roaches and this and that and the third listen, even me,

(28:09):
even me, I'm not even talking about nobody else, right,
I you know, I'm a very very very clean person.
But when I cooked something in my house for my
for myself, I might taste it in between. I'm doing
different things, right, I changed the way that I cook
when I'm taking it outside into the world.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I just don't trust everybody cooking in the house. I
just don't. I don't. I just don't. You don't care
commission and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
He like, I mean, I was imprisonment. I don't know
what it was dudes inside the mess hall that was cooking,
that was in the messhole that I wouldn't really even
talk to you just oh, you didn't have to have
no handleer's license. They put you in the mess hole
and then people was in there cooking, and it was
times I had to eat this and I survived. I

(29:02):
slept on floors. I survived.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
You're not in jail anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm not. But I understand. What I'm trying to tell
you is when you when you have survived when it
was just basic survival or the ship that the average
person would be like, had to turn the nose up
to your level. Because I'm saying people were looking like
I'm not eating that, That's what I mean. It's like, oh,
I'm not eating that, like, that's no where I'm eating it.

(29:27):
And it was nice that you were so hungry you
had to eat that. And when you ate that and
you survived and you was actually healthy, right, you start
seeing yourself. There's nothing that I can put past anything.
There's there's nothing that I look and say, oh, I
can't do that in the right situation. I understand that
most of us will eat where we have to eat

(29:49):
to survive.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
So I don't eat to survive.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
That's something. But I eat to survive.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I don't need to sn't eat for enjoyment. I eat
for experience and I eat but now which I survived
or But that's not the only reason why I eat.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Because I'm hungry. I don't want to taste this new food.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I'm not I don't even I go to like three restaurants.
You everybody knows when you say you want to go
out with me. And what's I want to know the
name of the restaurant that we just learned about. The
brother's name is Omar. I asked the ladies in the
in the hair salon. I said, oh my god, I
went to this great Jamaican restaurant and from Omar's kitchen.
And they said, you just find out about Omar's kitchen.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I said, what you mean? I did not know. I
loved Jamaican food.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I didn't know this brother has clean The kitchen is clean,
the food is tasty.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
So I but I probably have five restaurants that I
go to in my life because I'm very afraid.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I'm really really afraid to eat people's food.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'm not that's it.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But do me a favor.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Don't bring it to me, don't give it to me,
don't order it, don't.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't even that's what listen. I don't even like
suggest restaurants or anything. Like. We be together and she'll
be like, hey, guys, where you want to eat at?
She reminds you where you want to be, like weevers,
you can't choose anything. I'm like, no, because I know
that you wave more picky than I am, and I
don't want to have somewhere you like this place is
terrib I don't know, and you'll do that, So why

(31:21):
would I put myself through that? It just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Back it up. I gotta go listen.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I guess that's coming up right now, doctor Chanelle Robinson
Canard is gonna talk to us about her institute.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
She has a beauty institute. She's from Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
She's dope, but she got something else going on with
her accent, so we got to check on that. But
she she's I've been watching videos of her and she
is kind of like the epitome of it ain't what
it supposed to be because her story when you start
getting into a beauty business, cosmetics, construction company, all these
different things that she's done, real estate, a lot of

(31:57):
things that she's done. But when you start getting into
her story and the weeds, the weaving in and out
sometimes on her videos, I see her talking about it,
but it does not in any way sound like what
the actual experiences have been.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
And so she's coming up right now.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
We're going to get into a conversation about this idea
that it ain't what it supposed to be. The rise
through success takes a lot of dips and down moments,
all right, So as we continue with this series, it's
not what it posts to be.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's not what it peaks posts to be.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
We are talking to individuals who have climbed the ladder
to success, and when you look at their social media platforms.
They look good doing it, but there's a story that
always comes before the breakthrough. And today we have an
opportunity to talk to Chanelle Robinson Knard, who is a

(32:58):
serial entrepreneur.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
This young lady has a school, right.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's a beauty school, that excsthetic school, Coil Beauty Institute,
and there's products involved. There's a whole bunch of things, and
then also a construction company.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
How those two entities a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't know, but I bet you there's a story
and it's so we're excited to hear from Chanelle Robinson
Knar today. Thank you for joining the TMI Show.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here,
absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So tell I just want to know about Saint and Sath.
Explain to me because I loved I love the idea
of it. You know, it just shows the duality. But
explain to me what it means and how did.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You Satan Savage is one of your brands? Yes, okay,
it is.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Like, So I'm in school for theology and so I
have six college degrees. I am like my.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Sister Sharon, Honey, y'all go, that's.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
What we want to do. I'm gonna graduate in everything.
I don't care what it is. I have the biggest
imagination in the world, so I said, if I think
I want to do it, I try it. I don't
have anything that I've ever said I want to do
that and didn't see it out. I may not have
liked it, but I have a degree for it for sure.
But same time, savage is something that I created in

(34:14):
the process of getting a divorce but then finding God.
So I loved God before I got married, but sometimes
when you marry someone that doesn't love God, it takes
you away. So I found myself always at Bible study,
always at church, doing those things. And then the more
I was into my relationship, the more I stopped doing

(34:35):
some of those things. So you kind of drink away.
So when divorce come, the only person you have to
lead on is God. So I brought myself back. But
I was like, this is a story that I have
to tell. And I used to work in a strip
club and I used to cuss a lot, all these
different things, So that's the savage part. But it doesn't
mean I don't love God. It doesn't mean I don't

(34:56):
know him, and it doesn't mean that he doesn't love
me either. Mean there's a time frame or there's times
and moments in life where I may not have been
the best, but because of his grace, he allows me
to come back and do it over again every single day.
So just because I've acted like a savage, don't mean
I can't be a Saint's say, a real thing, no,

(35:20):
because we're never perfect, right, So I just try to
tell people I don't ever make the same mistake twice.
So if I made the mistake on Monday, I'm not
gonna make that mistake on Tuesday. And the more you
get into the word of God, the more you convict yourself,
you feel conviction. So you're like, oh, I can't do
that again. That wasn't okay. So it's okay to make
mistakes because we're human. That's called growing, that's called evolving

(35:43):
and elevating. But you can't keep making those mistakes. That's
when it's like, you know better, so then do better.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Actually, so you use the word mistakes, and I know
I've made some mistakes, but also sometimes you just make
bad choices, yeah, right, And I always have to try
to differentiate the difference too, because the mistake is definitely
something that I feel like, you know, you should probably
be forgiven for if you if you repent properly correct.
Sometimes we just make bad decisions because that's what you

(36:12):
want to because it's exactly what you wanted to do
in that moment.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
That is what you wanted to just.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Saying, don't keep doing it if you really are wanting
to be your best self.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Correct because I tell people you have to be more
like Christ. Like I don't want to be a Christian
because Christians make mistake. I try to be more like Christ.
So if so, if I know I did something wrong
because of a poor decision that I made in that moment,
then I have to make better decisions because now I
have inventory.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
To go off of.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I said, oh, you did that wrong yesterday, Chanelle, you
know you raised your voice, you didn't walk away, whatever
it was. Today, you cannot let those pressure points. Are
those same things get you disheveled and ruffle, because it's
like you're not growing. If you're doing that, you're you're
allowing yourself to stay beneath the person that you want
to be. I'm trying to get somewhere, so I can't

(37:02):
act crazy. So it's for me is my mouth and
my attitude. I will rip you apart with some words,
but I do better every day now I don't I
just walk away.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Wow, I'm working on it.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I knew it was New Orleans because I know that's saying.
I'm starting to get good with the accents.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So what led you into entrepreneurship and community work? What
made you want to do that?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Well? I was in school to be an accountant, so
I have an accounting degree and a business management degree
from Georgia State, two of the six. And so my
first job interview and I won't say their name because
I don't ever like to tell my story and bash
of the people. I just like to tell my side
of a story. I went to this really big accounting
firm in Atlanta, Georgia, and I made it all the

(37:50):
way up to the last interview where you have to
like the interview with like the partners and different stuff.
And the guy said to me, let's talk about your
offer letter over dinner, and I said, well, I don't
want to go to dinner. And at that time, my
son was really small. I had my son when I
was fifteen, so I didn't have a babysitter there's no

(38:11):
baby daddy around. There is one, but you know that's
a whole another story. So I'm like, I don't even
got a babysitter for that, and I can't even afford
to pay a babysitter at that time in life. So Sir,
I really can't go to dinner with you. But he
was like, well, I don't know if you're gonna get
the offer if you don't make it to dinner. I said, well,
I don't need to offer a dinner, and so I
walked out. So I would always hear that corporate America,

(38:34):
you know, the guys like to sleep with the women
and that's how they get promotions. But for that to
be my first experience, before I even you know, walk
through the door to clock in on anything, I knew
that that wasn't for me.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
The women be sleeping with the men too, child.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Yeah, but you know, for me, I didn't want that
to be the way that I obtained success, because then
if I don't sleep with the next one, then what
I don't get the job. So I didn't want that
to be my story. And so I kind of felt
like God was saying, this ain't what you're supposed to do.
I didn't know what I was supposed to do, but
I knew that wasn't it. So I said, you know what,
I'm gonna start doing taxes. I was really good in accounting,

(39:13):
doing balance sheets, doing P and L statements and all
of that, so I started doing that for people. So
when you have an accounting degree, you know people trust
you with certain stuff. So I started doing that, and
then I created my company. Literally a year later. I
created my company, the beauty company, the beauty comp Coil. Well,
actually no, I created a company called Conceited Ink, which

(39:35):
is still to date the company that has made the
most money for me in my whole life. I got
rid of it because it was a big court thing
and all that. Will talk about that a little later probably,
But I used to do shoes, So I used to
be a shoe designer. That was my first company, and
it was called Conceited Shoes Ink. A bunch of inventory,

(39:55):
a bunch of stuff spent, all this money went to China,
all these things made them and nobody. Because I didn't
have a marketing plan, I didn't know who my target
market was. I knew nothing about business. I just wanted
to be an entrepreneur, so I tell people I made
the mistakes so that then I can teach people how
to do it right. So I've been in business for
the last fifteen plus years, so I've helped over ten

(40:17):
thousand women and men start their businesses. I've taken over
a thousand and some people to China. Before it became
a thing in twenty eleven twelve, nobody was going, you know,
but now was the thing. Everybody's jumping on the airplane,
which is great because I mean the world is evolving.
But I have literally started people's companies with my eyes closed,

(40:37):
and so it's pretty dope. It's pretty dope.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, I love that you that you're like a trailblazer,
a young mother who was still a trailblazer, and you
didn't necessarily have to or didn't have to travel through
the corporate channels to get there, because we often hear
stories of people who tried your route and it just
did not work for various reasons. They don't have the

(41:04):
income to put the capital behind their own business ideas,
they don't have the business. We were just talking before
we started today about people not being professional. Yeah, so
what are some of the things, the tools that you
think you had that you use to be able to
build in ways that other people are unable to accomplish.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
You first have to have a whole lot of faith.
Being an entrepreneur is hard. It is not pretty, It
is not glamorous. The thirty seconds is that we post
on social media, right, you can get acute sixty seconds.
But behind the scenes of this thing is.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
The line supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
It ain't what it supposed to be. You are crying sometimes,
you are frustrated. You are spending everything that you have.
I spent everything that I had to start my business,
and I didn't know what I was doing. I reached
out to people who were business owners and they said no,
because you a hustler. I know you a hustler. You're
gonna outdo me, so I don't want to help you.

(42:04):
So my role into entrepreneurship was hard, and it was
a bunch of closed doors. But when I was fifteen,
they told me to drop out of school and just
get a ged because I've messed my life up. I've
always pushed through. So when you tell me I can't,
I'm about to me and God about to show you
just how much I can, and he's gonna make sure
you watch me surpass you. That's how I feel about it,

(42:26):
you know. But being an entrepreneur, you first have to
you first have to you gotta have money, and you
don't have to have a lot of money. But people
be saying, I started my business with fifty dollars. I
don't know what business you start with fifty dollars in
twenty twenty five. You need a marketing plan, you need
to know your target market, and you need to have

(42:47):
some capital because the first day you open does not
guarantee you any sort of sale, any sort of customer,
unless you some sort of major celebrity already.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
But we regularly right right, and so some people we
know they had to press up T shirts. They had
a little design, they press up T shirts. But the
point still remains that they use that as a way
to build capital for the bigger business idea. Yes, they
did not take fifty dollars down to the bank and
open it and say, oh, we're gonna start this business

(43:19):
is now going to be, you know, a big old
million dollar company.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
It doesn't work like that. You have to build from somewhere.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
You have to flip and flip and flip the money,
so they don't tell you how many times they flipped.
You could have started it with that five hundred dollars,
but how many times did you flip that five hundred.
It didn't go from five hundred to a million. That's
not the steps. So I think the world and some
I love social media because I make a lot of
money on that, but it misleads people who are trying

(43:47):
to currently get into business, making them believe that it's
one flip.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
No, it's eight thousand flips. Wow, that happened thousands yours.
You're gonna say eight No.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Eight thousand flips, and then your lights are about to
go off at your own house. They're all the eight
thousand flips in the middle of the eight thousand flips.
See that? See people, see I always sell.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
People in sanity that comes with entrepreneurship. Yeah, believe it's
like when we I didn't mean to cut you off.
But it's like watching pursue the happiness with Will Smith.
When you see that and people don't realize that's really
what success in entrepreneurship. It really looks like you sleeping
in the floor. You like you really invested everything that
you have into.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Something and then you have to believe it and you
have to be willing to do it and not make
any money because you don't know when your breakthrough is
going to come. In entrepreneurship, it's not you. I can
walk into my building. I own my building. I tell
people I like ownership. It's Atlanta, so yeah, I've been
in Atlanta twenty one years. Okay, but you have to

(44:52):
go in there. You're scared, you're broke, your homebreak, you're
your sleep deprived. But you still have to show up
every day because we don't get a paycheck, so we
don't know. I can I didn't. I can go to
work and work all day, be at my store all day,
and not one customer can walk in. That's the life
of an entrepreneur. But one day customers are gonna come in,

(45:14):
and if you have a great product, and if you
have great customer service, then near gonna tell somebody. Who's
gonna tell somebody, who's gonna tell somebody. So that's the
thing what I do with my business. I'm really consistent.
If I mess up, because sometimes I do, I'm quick
to apologize. How can I fix it? Some customers they
just want to have a problem, but for the most part,

(45:35):
it works because this is all I have. I don't
have a backup plan. I don't have a way out.
I have to be able to provide for me and
now have a grand baby, so me and my grand baby.
You know, she's three, and so my son is twenty
five now, so it's like I still have to be
I still have humans that I'm responsible for. In entrepreneurship,

(45:57):
I love it. I would not trade entrepreneurship for the world,
but you have to be built for it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Do you come from a family entrepreneurs or you the
first person that your mother and father were.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
My mother is a nurse. My dad was an entrepreneur
though he's the only entrepreneur that I saw at the time.
But a lot of my uncles own like restaurants, saying
we're into real estate. But my dad used to own
out back in the day. I would call it like
the foot lockers, so you know how you have the
free standing storefronts of sneakers and stuff with it. That's
what he used to do, and so that's where I saw.

(46:31):
I went to work with him every day, but he
was there all day and sometimes he would be cussing.
Sometimes he would be slamming a register and I would
just as a kid, you don't know what's happening. Now
I fully understand what was happening. He was going through
the process of being an entrepreneur. Some days will be
there all day, one customer will walk in, but no sales.

(46:51):
But you still was there that light, that rent have
to be paid and all these different things.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, you said you own a building.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, and so now you've got to figure out for
the most part, because because it's still it's still.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Eight thousand flip.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Well, so when I had it figured out, well, when
I thought I had it figured out, my divorce slapped
me in my face. I had to get out of
that space, you know. And I don't think he's a
bad person, but I was at the wrong address. And
so I've.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Been to massage, got to go back and with it
the address that was.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
The wrong address, y'all.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
So what happened, what happened with the divorce, what.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Happened with Well, so I've been married four times. Okay,
let's just say I never asked God about nobody. But
it's really trucky to ask God should you get married?
If somebody asked you to marry them, right, So I
tell people it's not that simple. But he showed me
all kinds of signs before leading up to that that
you don't want to do because the world tells you

(47:58):
get a husband at the house, the picket fence, the kids,
and a dog. That's what the world tells you. So
when I was young, I always saw the women that
were married and life was easier than the women who
were not. So I said, you know what, I'm getting
me a husband. So whenever I would get a boyfriend,
I would be I am the best girlfriend in the world.

(48:19):
You hear me, baby, I'm getting this husband up out
of here around care what you're talking about whatever? Because
I never tell them no. So it's really tricky to
not like me. Well now it might be because I
have a lot of standards, but before before the standards,
before God and all those things, because like now, I
don't have sex, so I want to, but if you

(48:43):
not my husband, I can't do it. So what are
we doing? So it's trickier now. But before what do
you mean?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Well, I think when to say that you not my
husband were not having sex? Right, Well, there's a goal
that a man is trying to reach, so he can
be this perfect person, right, just to actually get to
a goal, and then you don't actually really know the
person that you're into or you're actually with, and then

(49:11):
I thinks it might set up for another fair relate.
This is just my personal opinion. Maybe a lot of
women have certain standards, like like if you have a
thing and you tell a man, oh, you know what,
I'm not having sex until this happens. If that's if
the man's goal is to have sex with you, he's
just physically attracted to you. You, like you said, you're
a perfect type of person. You're not giving him no pushback.

(49:34):
You're just a good person. You lovable when he accomplishes
the goal, right, does that mean that you know, you
don't know if he's actually loves you or if he
did that to get to the goal. Well, I've seen situations.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Like, well, so I'm not against it, but I'm against
it to a certain point. In Atlanta, everybody touching on everybody.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Okay, you say everybody touching everybody? On this show we
say everybody on everybody.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Well yeah I wasn't. I'm trying to right, but no,
I people, No, I used to too much, but to
say that stand up, but that ain't.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Got nothing to do.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
They don't got nothing to do with it. Believe me.
It's a discipline thing that I'm trying to cuse. I
cussed you too much. Yeah, Oh it's bad, and it's
still in me, and it's not deep in me. It's
right here.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
That you say some things.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I'm real customer, you know how to cust somebody out, real,
real bad.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
But we worked on that and I'm still a work
in progress, so it's not perfect. But I just feel
like nobody gets to know each other. I'm I'm real cute.
You hear me. My confidence is up there. I don't
need you nobody to confirm it. But because of that,

(50:57):
somebody's gonna ask me on a date. But did and
after they've taken you on two dates, now they want
you to be at their house. We'll sir, what I'm
doing at your house? And you cannot come to my house.
Because so I keep a track of how many men
try to talk to me. It's just like a thing
that I have. It might be corny, but it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
That I have.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
In twenty twenty five, seventy six men have asked me
for my phone number seventy six already we and no member.
We almost at the end. I might get to one
hundred ninety something for shows. If I go to a
party or something, that's eight or nine in that party. Right,
But out of all those men, I went out on

(51:39):
a date with five.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Okay, that's a good ratio.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Decent, decent. But inside of that five, oh, I'm trying
to figure my life out and successful. One may have
been a doctor, one was a lawyer, one did finance.
You know, I'm not going out with the person that
say I'm trying to figure it out. I'm forty one. Baby,
If you haven't got a plan, you can't lead me.

(52:06):
Without a plan. I want a man that I can
submit to that can lead me. I can get in
a passenger seat and whatever he's working on, he can
give it to me and I can help him multiply that.
So if you're fifty years old talking about it, I'm
still trying to figure it out. You can't get my
phone number. It's bills over here, and it's commercial property
over here, multiple and it's multiple residents. Baby, you can't

(52:28):
come over here. You need somebody a rub bone, and
I don't have to get up and go to work
and feed you. That's not the plan for me. But
out of those people, I'm never getting married, but I'll
get you a ring. Let's not so what am I
sleeping with you for? You get what him? My end
goal is to find an amazing husband that I can
team up with and do great things.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
So you're not going to have sex until you get
married or.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Well, just live. I feel like this can be my person.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
It's not uh, well until.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
I can say that me and this person is on
a road that we are moving toward being married. You
get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
But I think that's great. Yeah, listen to anything I know.
I just.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Good question.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Men like always want to understand that I'm not saying
it's gonna be until I get married. Right, that's kind
of unreal. It can probably happen. I don't know what
day or time it's gonna be, but it's gonna be when.
Because so I had a man that I met and
let me tell these men come in hot baby. They
come and my friends call it the great, the Grand presentations.

(53:40):
That's what they give me, the Grand presentations. But then
after the presentation, there's no execution. So you come in
you come in with all these things. Because when I
go somewhere, I'm putting me some clothes on. You gonna
look at me, and you're gonna look at me twice.
Don't give me a little weave, baby. Oh it's over with,
give me a little bust down the apart. It's overwhere.

(54:00):
But then they come and then they don't have no
future planned out? So where's your future? The doctor said,
I'm gonna just do this till I get tired. I said, well,
what else you're gonna do? But he wanted me to
be off at five o'clock. Not as an entrepreneur. I
have night classes at my school. I have to teach
those classes a couple of days a week. Oh I

(54:21):
need a wife that's gonna cook me dinner every day.
I'm not hurt, So why am I touching you? Why
am I letting you kiss me? You get what I'm
saying doesn't mean you're a bad man. I'm just not
the wife for you. Because my school is what I have.
This is what you're coming into. So and then he said,
well you have to quit it. I said, well, give
me ten million. I'll sell my building and a school.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Right now, you ain't gonna do it. Look, you're gonna
do something else.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
I'm gonna still get a part of it. But I said, well, okay,
this is But I told him, I said this is
what I make. Because people scared of the finance word.
I was just talking to somebody there out She was
scared to ask the man how much he made. I say,
there's a certain standard of care that I provide for
myself as a human. I'm gonna put it all on
the table, sir. You want to know my credit score,

(55:09):
let me pull it up. You want to know the
things that I have figured out in life at the
age of forty one, let me display those things to you.
But I want to know huh.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
It's a little rough man gonna be intimidated. Most men
are intimidating because they sit there like this is this is.
But it's good because at least you know that whoever
is not intimidated by this is prepared and it's somebody
that God sent for you, because it's a lot for
you know, the average man is trying to find someone
that he loves, and a lot of men want to

(55:38):
feel in control. It's not It's going to be hard
for a man to feel like he's in levels of control.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Not true. I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
You want that, you like, I wait for.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
You to control the average most women, right, even when
you look at successful couples, like when you look at
power couples, most of power couples, the women have a
level of power. Because even when you look at Jay
Z and Beyonce, this is a classic power company. Jay
had to take a step back to realize that his
wife has a level of power that he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
When he said it in one of them songs.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I'm listening to the lyrics of one of his songs
where he talks about having to step back and left realize.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
That this woman is more popular and that's a lot.
And even though you know, I don't know the dynamics
of their personal life, but you that's something humbling for
a certain individual who had who's been powerful, who's been
so dominant in every other aspect of their life. So
you're probably meeting these doctors that the average woman is
meeting like, oh my god, he's a doctor who listen,

(56:39):
I'm going to marry him. And you said, listen, what
is your playing after that? Because I got this and
that he looking like what what what's going on? And
I need you up at five o'clock. Well I can't
do that. You got tim So all of these.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I'm just saying, when you asked me to let my
career go, right, I have between the collective businesses seven
figures a year that is generating.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I need tell us about at least three to five years.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Give me three. Let's go with three.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I want you to tell us about the how construction
became a part of your portfolio when you were in beauty,
and then education is a part of the beauty. It's
not just the products. And also you got a lot
of things. But I think it's intriguing.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Because you get twenty four hours. So I tell people
I make the most out of it. So if God
gave it to me, let's go for it. Let's run
with it. And he gives me so many balls, and
he like, shan up, let me see what you can do.
I'm gonna show up and show out. But I was
in beauty. I was in Well Conceited Shoes, Inc. Was
a shoe company and then it failed because I ain't

(57:56):
have no customers. I still have some of them shoes
from fifteen years ago. But I turned it into Then
I dropped the word shoes and turned it into a
beauty brand. I was back in the day getting eyelash
extensions and a lady was charging me three four hundred
dollars for these eyelash extensions. I said, well, can you
teach me how to do this? Because I've spent all
of my money on this business and now I need

(58:18):
to be able to take care of myself again. I
have a son. I cannot wait around and not have
lights for that boy. That boy has to eat all
those things. I was the responsible person for that. So
she literally taught me how to do the eyelashes in
my living room. She was like, I'm gonna charge you
four thousand. At that time, I ain't even had a
four thousand, but it was three men that liked me

(58:39):
at the time. I asked all three for the four thousand,
and they gave it to me, so I don't know
which four thousand. I had an argument with my ex
husband one time. He was like, I gave you money
for the lashes. I said, you plus two, and I
don't know which one of y'all four thousand. Actually I
actually gave two it because the rest I paid my
bills with He was like, I can't believe it. Maya B.

(59:00):
We was dating stort. Don't judge me. I needed help
and I asked for it and I received it. But
long story short, that business. Within six months, I was
booked up for a month flashes for eyelash exit.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
You still do them? Oh no, that just kills me.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
When the girls good the stuff that they was doing well.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
The thing you do make up in head from you.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
The thing about it is is now I teach other
people how to be great at it. So I can't
use an hour and get Now they're only spending one
twenty five for eyelash extensions. I can't do that. I
can make I charged five twenty five hour for people
to talk to me. So I don't want to go
and make the one twenty five if I don't have to,

(59:49):
will I will I ever? Yeah? But see that's New York.
So in Atlanta you have to think about it. We
were three four hundred dollars back in the day fifteen
years ago when I start. Now on every corner there's
eyelash extensions, so you gotta now do a special eighty
dollars full says sixty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That's not for you, not at.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
This point in life. But if I ever and I
mean if God say I ever have to go back
and do that, I'm signing up for it. And I
can't wait to say it because whatever season I'm in,
I accept that season for whatever it is. So I
don't ever I tell people I'm never gonna say I'm
never gonna do it again. I prefer God to not
take me back to where I have to do it again.

(01:00:33):
But if so, that's wrong, and I'm gonna call you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yeah and let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
So seasons you said you got the wrong address, and
we just went spiraled into other things, talk about this,
this address that was the wrong address.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
So the thing about it is is right. I have
a great ex husband, and I have a great ex
husband in certain ways, he was always the man that
I met at that point in my life. That's what
I needed who he was, But he never grew to
be different. So for me, I say it was the

(01:01:07):
wrong address because I don't want to get cheated on.
I don't want to walk inside of a room and
wonder who else my husband is sleeping with. That's not
my personality. It doesn't work with how boseful I am
and how like when I walk somewhere, I'm confident in it.
I know what I'm talking about. I'm gonna speak, I'm
gonna say hello, you can leave. You canna put me
in a room of people that I don't know. I'm

(01:01:28):
gonna know about one hundred people. They gonna be like
I met that girl Chanelle. She was all right, you know,
but I don't want to go in rooms and wonder,
Oh she cute. He's sleeping with her. Oh she I
don't want to do that. And he never wanted to
grow to be anything different. But who he was when
I met him, so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
The great the guy when you met him, who was
the He had many women.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
But he was married when I met him, and I
never knew he was married. He used to say that
was his baby mama. I found out after we were
together three and a half years. And at that point
I should have said, okay, I should exit out of here.
That was red flag one. But we don't pay attention
to that because now we live together, we're traveling all
over the world. Financially, he was the greatest thing that

(01:02:16):
has ever happened because we on private jets. Like he
has his stuff together. You know financially, but the discipline
in him, as far as the discipline I would prefer
in a husband because somebody he got a girlfriend, he
got all them things, so she's okay with whatever. That
discipline is right for me as I grew up, because

(01:02:38):
I tell people I met him when I was twenty something,
So as I evolved and grew that wasn't that wasn't
good enough anymore. It just didn't work. It didn't work
for me. And to be honest with you, if I'm
gonna catch something, I want to be slotting out here
for it. I don't want to catch it. And I'm

(01:02:58):
at home cooking dinner around and doing all these things
and taking care of kids and all of this stuff. Uh,
if we gonna have if I'm gonna have a prescription
for a pill to take, it's gonna be because of
the choices that I may not because of somebody else's choices.
And I'm sitting here being lawyer. So I tell people

(01:03:20):
all the time, God was tired of me using the
excuse of I don't want to do it by myself
because I'm not really a girl that like to be alone.
I'm like, why why am I single? What were we
talking about? But I didn't. The meat and potatoes of
it was I didn't want to catch something. Women were
saying they were getting pregnant for him, and all these

(01:03:42):
different things, and it was just like enough is enough?
And so when were you gonna so for me? I said,
when was I gonna look in the mirror and think
I deserved better? And then if you when I realized
that I had to get rid of a lot of
people that didn't fit in with where I wanted to
go and how I wanted to feel in life, and

(01:04:04):
so it just it just didn't work. And so he
would always say, if you don't like it here, anybody
would want to be here. So when I would say
something like you shouldn't do that, like if you come
home you leave at six pm and say I'm gonna
be right back, and you get home at noon the
next day, Bro, whe are you mad? Asked me a
question when you decide to pick up a bill around here?

(01:04:28):
I said, oh, see what is going? So that was
when we first got together. So I said, you know what,
and people like to use that. I used him. I
did not use him at all. I loved him dearly,
but I knew that I didn't want to go back
to how I was living, So I went to college
for everything. I started every business I can start. Baby,

(01:04:50):
I was getting me some money of my own, is
what I knew, and I said he was gonna pay
for it too. He loved the drive I had and
all that different stuff. So whatever crazy idea I came
up with, how much it costs your now? All right,
have a good day. I probably won't see him the
whole weekend. I'll call him. Can I get thirty thousand?

(01:05:10):
Here you go. He might be on the yacht with
somebody else, but he was gonna make sure I had
that thirty thousand. And that's what I'm gone. You gotta
pick the good stuff instead of saying, like the real
bad stuff, because you can dig deep and go down
a spiral with what's wrong with a person? For me
in the season I'm in right now, he made sure

(01:05:32):
that I have every college degree I got, and he
used to pay me ten thousand a month to go
to college. So now it was a purpose. It was
a purpose. Yeah, it just didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
And it's somebody else, like you said, who was probably
completely fine with all the other aspects because they also
on their journey, and they're like, yeah, who cares if
he's messing around with somebody else, doesn't mean anything to
me because he's taking care of what I need.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
And that's all that's important.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Because people look at finance since it's the only thing.
But you can be and you can feel like you're
in prison because somebody is giving you finances. I don't
want a man just because he have no money. Don't
come here broke. Let me say that again. Don't come
here broke. But you have to have more than that.
What's your discipline level? What's your communication skills? And a bible?

(01:06:19):
They said Eve was made from the rib to be
the helpmate.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
What am I helping you with?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Smoke weed all day, go party all day, Go do
drugs all day, go sleep with women. If I am
truly meant to be your helpmate, I need to see
what you're doing. And if you're not doing nothing, I
can't help you with nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
This is very deep. We all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I mean, you know I've said yeah, all this on
this show a million, thousand million times.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Go ahead, Mike, No, I'm just I'm just amazed that
you've been through so many different things that you have
this level of spear because that's that's a level of
abuse to be in a relationship like, that's the level
it's mental is you know when you tell someone, tell
somebody if you don't like hearing, somebody else would be here.
So I know that's the level of mental abuse. And

(01:07:13):
to see you so I get it now. So how
is it now you've left that relationship and you just
are you in a relationship now with anybody? No?

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Well, I told you I can't say it on here
because I don't want the people to call me. But
I told y'all a man I just met, and then
I told you what happened with a man. I said, See,
the guy don't want me to go on no date.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
He's not ready. You're not ready, he said.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
I'm just not ready, you know. And I'm okay. So
for me, I'm really grateful for the great things that happen.
People say, oh, I had a bad day. No, I
had a bad moment in a day when I was
headed here yesterday while I was at the airport, my
flight I delayed two hours. I say, you know what,
I canceled all the stuff that I had planned yesterday.

(01:07:56):
When I got here, I had all these things, and
I told my friend today I could have looked at
that like, oh my god, I gotta cancel this. I'm
supposed to be somewhere. But I say, God, tell me
why I'm sitting at this airport for four hours. Make
me understand what am I supposed to be doing, because
you have me still, and there's greatness and being stilled,
and that's what people don't understand. So there's greatness and

(01:08:18):
being still. Right. So, when I was supposed to be
in the air, somebody was breaking into my school. Wow,
breaking in so my loom going off. I'm watching them
on the camera. I'm on my other phone with I
didn't call nine one one. I done told ADT called
nine one one. But that's why God delayed my flight.

(01:08:40):
So I told him, I said, tell me, and he
showed me. I would been in the air the police
wouldn't have been there. So I left the airport. I said,
you know what, let me go fix this and handle it.
So my friends they were like, oh my god, everybody
is so disheveled. They're like, why you not disheveled? I said,
do y'all not see the that just happened. I would

(01:09:02):
have been in flight. These people took one thing or
two things because they heard that alarm and I was
able to send a police and the police was there
within so many minutes. Right if I would have been
on that flight, they could have wiped me out. I'm
grateful because I was able to get a fleeting airport.
I can catch another flight. So I paid for another

(01:09:22):
flight because I had to go into JFK, I said,
but I had the finances to take care of it.
I had to purchase an emergency window, do this, do that,
and guess what is somebody that happened to somewhere and
they didn't have the finances to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Oh, we know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
We have a young man who has a business in Atlanta.
Young man who's you know, just a great young man.
I want to say kid, because you know it's twenty
something years. Don't like to be called kids. And his
store has the same thing. He's had breakings twice. The
first time I don't remember what happened, but the second

(01:09:58):
time they literally took a truck and rammed it through
the wall in the door to get in to steal
his merchandise that he's building up as like a twenty
seven twenty six, twenty seven year old guy. He's building
up his merchandise and out there, you know, trying to
do the right thing. And one thing he said to
me that I just oh my heart. He said, this

(01:10:19):
is the plan.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
This is it. If this does not work, there is
no other plan.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
So therefore, had he had to keep going back, because
some people wouldn't. They would just be like, this is
the second break in, Just forget about it. But to
your point purpose of lines and if you keep on
pushing through, you can make it to the other side.
I want to ask you this though. Did you post
about the break in yesterday? So see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
It ain't what it sposed to be because people have
no idea that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Well, somebody broke in a month ago.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Oh MyD so this is his second.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Breakda and they broke They ain't got.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
No money, the money from the scams.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
And now you can't scam no more because these people
the technology is better so they can catch it. You know,
technology has advanced. I want one of the little robots
that make the bed ain't gonna lie to tell you
I'm a way till other people tested out first, but
Generation three or four, I might be signed up for it,
but people are having a hard time, right, And so

(01:11:22):
it was I upset. I was upset. You get upset
as a human. But in that moment, I was so
thankful for God to delay that flight so that I
did not get wiped out. But I was also very
appreciative that He gave me the armor to handle the day.
So when I wake up in the morning, I say, God,
give me whatever I'm supposed to have, because it's all

(01:11:43):
the process in which you're gonna become great and get
to the purpose. It's already planned out. And it's heartbreak,
it's tears, it's pain, it's all these things. Weapons will
come against you, but they won't form right. But I
was grateful for the ability to handle it. He gave
me a full armor so that I can handle everything

(01:12:05):
that came to me that day. And guess what, I
still got on a flight. I didn't get her at
seven pm, but I got here at three am. I
leave Bible study on Tuesday nights and I do a
prayer on Monday mornings. So I then went to Ephesians
to find where it says that God gives you the
full armor. So you be tired. I'm tired right now.

(01:12:26):
I was wow out, I was all sorts of things.
I was freezing cold. But guess what, I still was
able to show up and do what needed to be done.
So that's just another part of the story. God gave
me that problem yesterday. He allowed me to have grace
in the solution and fixing it, and then I was
able to share it with the people this morning that

(01:12:46):
may have been going through something. So when I prayed
for them this morning, somebody was like, oh my God,
I needed to hear this. I had such a bad day,
and how you got through your breaking is showing me
that I can push through as well. So some God
gives me things because he know he got I got
a big mouth. I'm want of his big mouth. Kids.
I'm going to tell the story, but I don't make

(01:13:09):
it into a social media thing. So it's not oh,
they broke in, because I ain't calling an insurance company
or nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
The success of what you built is on social media, yes,
and then you see that's what That's the only point
of the series.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
It's not to say that you should do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
It's just to say that people get what is it
a glimpse how people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Base their lives off the best thirty and sixty seconds
of years. Like you said, so they look at your page,
this is goals, right, and they just want the goals,
They want the things.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
But they don't see that. They don't see the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Pain behind it. They don't see tears, they don't see
the lights almost going off, they don't see the eight
thousand foot they don't see none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Well, so on my page, I tell them all of that,
but I don't tell the real time. Yeah, but I
so for me, I have to process the break in
before I can pick up my phone and rick pore
and glass everywhere, because it's still my business and my
basis and it right, it's a violation, it's still so
then I'm still processing that. So when you are still

(01:14:09):
processing something, you don't share it with other people because
people gonna somebody gonna say on because Instagram is treacherous, baby,
somebody gonna say that's what you get because you think
you got it all together and that No, no, no,
no no. I need to process this. I need to
fully understand what happened, and then I share it. But
I just don't always share in realm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
But a lot of people don't share, and there's nothing
wrong with not sharing it. It's just that what we're
trying to explain to most people is that because you
don't see the work, don't mean that the work is
not happening. Because you just see that you see Lebron
score fifty. You don't see every practice. You don't see
how many jump shots that Steph Curry took, like unless
somebody told you that he takes over a thousand jump

(01:14:51):
shots a day. They practice you in half court shots
and three quarter shots a day, a thousand times a day.
You think that you just could go up there and
throw up and you're gonna hit that, And people don't
realize it's way more behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
They don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
What they don't know what to do with it because
they have prepared for it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
But I show those things and I tell that to people,
and I think that's why, like my mentorship does well,
I have something called Elevate Her, and there's a lot
of people that's in there, like on my Bible studies,
in my prayer line, there's over four hundred people registered
for it, you know, So it's like they know that,
but you also have to protect yourself. So sometimes when

(01:15:30):
you share things too fast, people start to praying that
something else happened, you know, people start to praying. So
like I tell people, I share a lot of stuff
now after the fact, after I really know what it is.
Because when you even share your ideas in the beginning,
there's somebody that's following you that don't want that to happen.
They can be God, don't give it to a devil. Come.
So I try to talk to God about everything and

(01:15:53):
then be like, Okay, now time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Is supposed to be the message exactly. We know what
are the things that people need to hear and what
some of the stuff that's not important, Yeah, might be confusing,
may make somebody feel like they can't do it, you
know what I mean, Like you really have to have
the discernment to make the message strong enough that it

(01:16:16):
brings people closer to success versus making them feel like
running away.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Before we go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Because I feel like we could sit here and talk
about all the aspects of not just business but life yea,
which is really the whole point that life is happening.
Why you're building your business, why you're building your brand,
while you're becoming.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
You're still living, but I want to know about the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Specifics of the things that people can go and purchase
from you, or you know, ways that they can get
your intellect and your brilliance.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
So I have a platform, a community called elevate Her.
We even have men in there. I called to Elevate
Her because my focal point is always to develop women.
Sometime actually joined because they're like, I just love you,
I just want to hear your perspective on this or
that I have. That It is where we meet once
a week and we just talk about entrepreneurship. We talk

(01:17:11):
about business, if they need vendors, whatever it is they
need personal life or business life. I help them get
to the next step right now and elevate Her. We're trading,
so we're learning how to trade, we're learning how to
build generational wealth. And it's actually going pretty good. I'm
really excited about that. But every six to eight weeks
we change what it is. So that's what I do

(01:17:32):
with that. For my beauty company is called call Beauty
and that's called Beauty dot Com. And then I have
called Beauty Institute, which is the school and it is
called Beauty Institute dot Com. I even have a one
of my top selling products that I brought here for
you because you're gonna love it. It's some called squalene
that you put on your skin. It helps with agent,

(01:17:54):
it helps with hydration. It just gives you that extra glow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
And this is your product.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
It's how many products do you have over twenty? Wow? Yeah.
So I have a full skincare line, an anti agent
skincare line. I have all the different oils. We sell, lipsticks,
lip liners and stuff. So Coilbeauty dot Com is a
full beauty brand. It focuses on skincare because I own
an esthetic school and it's an accredited esthetic school because

(01:18:19):
people be saying I own a school and the state
don't know nothing about it. When you come to my school,
after nine months, you can go sit for your test
to become an esthetician, or if you are already an esthetician,
you can come to become an esthetic instructor, and that
is a six month program. So we're actually giving people
trades that they can then jump into the workforce and

(01:18:40):
make pretty decent money. Everybody isn't like me to go
to college and do all those things. That's not the
role for everybody. So I'm giving nine month opportunities, six
month opportunities to women, and we get a lot of
people that's been in corporate honestly and like, I'm tired,
I'm tick of this. I want to make a little
extra money because now and given raises or whatever it

(01:19:02):
is that they're doing, people are not happy with it.
So people are actually coming to the beauty space and
are like, teach me how to do what you're doing
because they do see the success part, but they also
see where I didn't have a great day, or they
also see the blood, sweat and tears. We just had
a six year anniversary for Coil and I made all
these fancy videos and I didn't post one. And I

(01:19:24):
literally at three am was still at Coil on the
day it was eleven eleven, and I said, y'all, I
made all these fancy videos. I have this whole spread.
I say, but this is what it looks like. It's
literally the last video I think on my Instagram. This
is what business looks like. I'm still here at three
point forty seven am on an anniversary, getting the process together,

(01:19:45):
getting the logistics together, because whenever we have a big sale,
stuff start to fall apart. So literally I was there
and I showed them that. So to your point, I
showed them the bad Also, I showed them really what
it takes. Because they, oh, yeah, they'll see me. I
can go to the Master, I can go to Van Klief,
I can do all those things. They like that part,

(01:20:06):
that's why they come to the community. But they also see, baby,
it's hard out here. This is not for the week.
You have to have a strong back and shoulder for this.
So I literally paid four five thousand for a shoot
and all this content and use none though this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Is I have been told by my son that I'm
currently in trouble for not posting content that I have.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
You know, for me, I think one of the reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Why I'm careful about what I'm posting and when is
because I could be so excited to post something and
then find out that, you know, like people are hungry,
or three hundred thousand black women have lost their job,
and here I am twirling around and yeah, you know,
everybody's having such a good time, and sometimes it just
does it feels very off. Yeah, to be trying to

(01:20:57):
promote this while we as a collective community are trying
to figure out like what's the direction forward? And ever
since this particular administration has been in place, I haven't
felt the same about social media.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
I'm not saying I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Drop a cute picture or a video on there, because
of course sometimes it's just in the mood for that,
but I also have recognized that the level of discipline
that it will take me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I ain't talking about everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
To focus on like how do we see our way
through this? It just has taken me from It has
made social media not be as attractive to me as
it used to be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
So I know, but that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Mean I'm not still clicking and popping and doing and
moving and making it happen. It's just that sometimes I
just don't always get to post me well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
I tell people, you also got to be mindful of
other people. So and sometimes with all these people losing
a job, I don't need to be posting that I'm
in my greatest season. It's not to be hidden, but
sometimes it's not for everybody else either, And in that
mole and in that the moment, I might use them
for next year. That's what Tubby. I don't say that number.

(01:22:04):
I just use it another time. But to your point,
You're right. When I heard about those three hundred thousand
women I made up about, I made a video that said,
anybody that wants to come to my school who just
lost their job, you can come for free. You just
have to buy your kid and you just have to
do so. That's still a thing. If you have lost

(01:22:24):
your job in twenty twenty five because of what's going on.
I call it, y'all Uncle Donald. I don't know it,
but y'all uncle Donald. Then at least I can do
my part because God is gonna make sure I have something.
He's gonna make sure, and I have to have that
school if people are there or not, So they have
to pct purchase their kid, which is only four hundred
and some dollars, but the full tuition is gonna be

(01:22:47):
on me. That's the least I can do to help back.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
So for from until freedom, let me tell you the commitment.
If you find somebody that can't pay for their kit
but they need to get into school, we will cover
at least two people's four hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
So see, we need to make an instagramaty that's an
Instagram post we need.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yeah, at least if we can help somebody, because shoot,
four hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
That's a lot in this season.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Baby, let me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Tell you, Let me tell you something. Four hundred dollars
is real, like it's it. And we are so used
to as they say, you use this phone to tap
tap tap, the little kids be like, use your phone's money,
it's actually cash. So for somebody, they might have four
hundred dollars, but that four hundred dollars could be used
towards something else. And so that's a commitment that we

(01:23:36):
will make, is that we can at least cover two
people's kit so that they can get in your school.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna make that a post. They will
love that because I get so many single moms and
different things like that, and I I tell people, but
I venom and I make sure because you don't need
your kit until month full you so you have to
pass until month because you don't need a kit until
it's in person. So half of my school is online,

(01:24:04):
so all of our theory. Georgia allows me to teach
them on zoom, so that makes sure they don't have
to show up, but our practical hours are in person.
If you are feeling you don't need this kit because
you ain't even gonna make it there. So that's how
I know who's serious and who not, because people drop
out way before it's kit time. But the people that
sustain until kit time, then that's how we know. Yeah, listen,

(01:24:30):
we have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
This interview all day. Yeah, beautiful energy. You know your
story is amazing. I can see why people come to
you for mentorship and you know you just have a
healing energy. You know, it's one of those you one
of them ones.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
As we said, it was developed in pain, though I
tell you that it was developed and burst and pain.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I know exactly what you mean because my story is crazy.
But just seeing you come out on the other end
of whatever you went through the bag and seeing this
person that's here before us right now, it's just amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
So just keep right, thank you, Chanelle Robinson Knar for now, ah,
for now, because that is my.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Ex husband's last name, and God has been telling me
that's not your name no more, that I don't know
wrong and the name and I fought for that name.
That name costs me over half a million dollars in court.
But right now, for who I am, I don't want
to keep telling the story because I have two last names,
so people are always like, what are these names about?

(01:25:36):
I want to let that go, and I think I'm
now at a place where that's not my name, that
was yours, so I can give it back.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
You know, I know people who really the name is
a big deal. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
I heard a woman, an older woman say one day,
she said, I paid for that name and blood I
did keeping that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Name, and that's what I told the judge. I said,
I'm keeping it. I thought a year and a half
about my name and my company. They tried to take
my whole company from me his attorney, and long story short,
my divorce lasted three and a half years. It cost
six figures in the high six figures. Jesus, but God

(01:26:16):
gave me my first business so that I can pay
for my divorce and come out on the other side
of it. He didn't give me that money to save.
He didn't give me. He gave me that because for
three years Coil I couldn't run it because his attorney
was saying that was his company. But because I found
the trademark before we was even in a divorce. The

(01:26:37):
judgment was like, well, why you're not on this, But
that took discovery, that took a whole dollar time and
cost money. So what I will say any entrepreneur maybe
get that trademark. That trademark said, that's my business. But
then you still have to now try to get your
customers back. But that's a whole another interview would not

(01:26:58):
be Yeah, that's a whole nother thing. But literally I
was shut down for three years with called beauty which
birth called beauty Institute. I said, when I'm opening my school,
you want to take my products, you can't take the
knowledge that I have to teach people how to. But
then I ended up getting it all back. So everything
I fought for I actually lost in court. And then

(01:27:20):
when we was walking out, I said, gud, you know
the judge told me you have so much even if
he get half of it, you have more than me.
And I'm a judge. I said, well what does that mean?
What you a judge?

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
But what does that mean exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
But my ex husband walked out of there, he said,
I don't want none of that. I actually purchased all
of the stuff that I have myself. My ex husband
didn't give it to me. I didn't pay bills, so
I had money to purchase it, but the judge gave
him all of it and he walked out. He said,
I don't want none of it. And that was God,
because even what they call it the galvel, after the

(01:27:57):
gavel hit, the decision was final. But that's not the
final decision when you serve a guy that I have
and my husband ex husband barbershop. He signed the papers
over and gave me everything that I purchased myself.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Wow, So so he wasn't He's not terrible. No, I
was just at the wrong address.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
It was their address for somebody got us.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
I gotta see because that one that that all preach there,
I like to put that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
On my you know, I do at least one sermon
a year.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
I'm not a preacher, but every somebody always asked me
to come speak on a Sunday in a pool pit
and I'm like me here and I always try to
come up with something good. It's the wrong address. It's
the wrong and gonna me get my name. God, thank
you so much for coming and talking with us today.

(01:28:47):
It ain't what it supposed to be, but it is
it is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
It is, Yes, yes, thank y'all for having me. This
was amazing. Hey, hey, y'all. So I'm sure now, as
y'all know, owner of Coil Beauty and Cool Beauty Institute,
and I wanted to share with you guys our top
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(01:29:10):
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(01:29:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Shout out to doctor Seanell. She is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Doctor Seawndell.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Run circles around people like, honey, y'all please that lady.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
I was sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
I was so intrigued while the interview was going on
because I was thinking to myself that I know people
say she's too much.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
I can't take her.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
That's how I was trying to tell them. Like when
I'm listening to well, let me get her full name,
doctor Seanell Robinson Kenner Canar, but she's saying that she's
ready to move away from the canar. But just listening
to her, right, I know that the average individual man
is going to have some level of intimidation because she's
clear of what she wants. She knows exactly how she

(01:30:47):
wants it. She's asking questions. She ain't scared to say
this and that. So just listening to I know that, yes,
like you said, some man's going to ask you too much.
I can't deal with all that. But it's amazing just
to watch her just move into her purpose is and
just she's.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Doing that's like she's doing really really good good.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
We never did get an answer.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
We were talking about so many things about how construction became, Oh,
what kind of projects she works on, So she's she's
a part two. We got so many part twos.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
That we got some part twos. And that brings me
to since we're talking about finances and we're talking about,
you know, being able to survive in life, that brings
me to my I don't get it, you know this.
So I've been watching ever since, you know, to shut down,
and people been talking about SNAP and we were talking
about healthcare and people have to choose between eating and healthcare, right,

(01:31:43):
And that was just crazy for me that that was
actually a conversation. And based on that conversation, a lot
of things start to be revealed. And you started hearing
people saying, well, nobody should be getting SNAP, you know,
because you want the government to take care of you,
get a job and this and that. And we realized
that most people who are getting SNAP benefits actually have a.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Job, right, And there's a lot of people, well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
There's I think for them, well a lot there's there
are a very large percentage of individuals who have jobs
who are still getting snaped back ye's. And then we
talk about healthcare. You know, I believe, for me that
every individual should have health care. But I don't understand
why people think that it's a luxury that you're supposed

(01:32:28):
to work so that you can have health care that
you used to be able to survive. I think if
you're sick and you go to the doctor, and the
doctor can save your life, and it shouldn't be based
on how much money you have or don't have. I
just don't even understand the concept that we we live
in one of the most advanced countries in this nation
and there I mean supposedly, you know, we live in

(01:32:51):
one of the richest nations in the world, and other
nations provide free health care like this is a normal thing.
They have free health care, And I don't understand why
people believe in our country that it shouldn't be free,
that people should not go to the hospital and be

(01:33:12):
diagnosed with the illness and they have a you know,
they have an opportunity and they have resources to be
able to make sure that those people live and it
shouldn't be based on how much money they have.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
But what somebody's gonna say, who's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Pay for the government? We al? But that's what But
that's what That's what I'm trying to say, Like when
we when we're all paying taxes, the taxes should go
that we all should be able to survive everybody. But
that's what it is. For me. It's just like it
just doesn't make sense that that's not what it goes
for because they can they spending billions of dollars heit it.
A country could come in and say, yo, we we

(01:33:45):
we need this, and they can say, okay, we're gonna
give you twenty billion, or you need twenty bill Okay,
you got war. We got one hundred billion for you.
We got forty bills. Everybody gets saved. They live in
large and they and they have free health kid then right.
So the thing for me is that because that Americans
who actually live here don't understand or even see the

(01:34:07):
need that we all have free healthcare. If I'm making
a billion dollars, I want to put my money into
making sure that thousands, one hundred thousand people are able
to survive. Like why wouldn't I want to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
You're like the guy that I love to I love
to watch his video when he says, who's gonna pay
for the children's health care?

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Who's gonna pay me me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
I'm gonna pay for who's gonna He's like if some
kids get an extra pizza on me in the school,
naked a free pizza me.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
I want to pay for the free.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
I want to I want to pay for my whole
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Want to pay for war Yemen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
My whole life's existence is to be able to make
have enough resources, to be able to provide those who
don't have resources with resources. Like that's what I don't
understand people that want to hold resources and have way
more than they need and tell somebody else, well, I
don't want my tax money to go like, that's the
craziest shit I've ever done. I mean, I've ever heard

(01:35:06):
in my I've never heard anything that sounds so remotely
crazy and fucking batshit crazy to me. So, now, when
we're talking about being able to survive, and when you
talk about surviving, we talking about wages, and when we
talk about how much it costs to be able to survive.
Based on the CNBC's analysis using MIT's living wage calculator,

(01:35:32):
it says it takes about seventy five thousand on a
low scale to be able to survive national Now, when
we do the federal analysis based off the minimum wage.
Federal minimum wage is seven dollars and twenty five cents
an hour, which equates to about fifteen thousand dollars a year. Now,

(01:35:59):
if you make fear fifteen thousand dollars and living wages
equates to about seventy five thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Right, that's a livable way.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
That's a livable way. You can't nowhere there survive. Now,
when you take the numbers for New York City, it
doubles it, right, they say, the the minimum wage in
New York City is finished state. In New York State,
it's fifteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Yeah, because the city is sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
City is okay, so you double that, you get about thirty.
But you know how much it costs for you to
have a actual livable living experience inside of New York.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Yeah, well it depends on who you ask. They say comfortably.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
They say comfortably two hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
No, but for real, because you know that two incomes
and put it together. Now, okay, that's why I asked you.
Was it the white folk calculator or is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
It I don't care who calculating?

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Listen to me, if you're out one hundred fifty thousand,
you could survive in me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Okay, let's say one hundred and fifty thousand, you only
got about thirty one thirty two. How are you supposed
to survive without the SNAP benefits? And then you got
to pay health care out of that thirty two? Who's
gonna survive off that? I'm just trying. I want to
like make me understand how people supposed to vive. And

(01:37:29):
you talking about crime and people say, oh, you got
to get people got.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
A job, They got a job, job, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Job they got that make this fifteen thousand a year,
that's their job. Some of these people is doing more
work than the people that's making two hundred thousand dollars
a year three hundred and they're making seven dollars and
twenty five cents, or they making fifteen dollars an hour,
and they probably doing more work than a person that
make three hundred thousand dollars a year. And you mad

(01:37:58):
at them because they got this SNAP benefit. You telling
them they lazy because they win't got the SNAP benefits.
I know people that's working construction every day, lifting carrying,
they don't bring home one thousand dollars a week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Those people were construction to make a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
I know something that don't make a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
That's true levels to his levels, right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Because you got the one to forming and on the
one who own the construction business. He making a bunch
of money, but he's paying them people about one thousand
dollars a week. Maybe on the high end.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
A thousands a week is a lot. It is if
you'll make a thousand dollars a week in New.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
York if you got one kid, how you make a thousands?
If you make a thousand dollars a week in New York.
The average rent in New York City is about three
thousand dollars a month, will you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Yes, yes, it is not like Noah, y'all bugging y'all people,
y'all living too hot?

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Can' let's say twenty five let's say twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Hundred, it's about okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
All right to listen to anywhere between two unredeen.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Hundred is a one bedroom somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Okay, maybe it's okay. So let's say eighteen hundred. You
make your rent is eighteen hundred month, like yeah right, yeah,
rent that's alone because that ain't lighting gas, that ain't
a phone bill, that ain't food, that ain't clothes, that
ain't coffee to get to work A corfee high coffee

(01:39:27):
is the highest thing in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
It's no, it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
And people will say, well, two dollars whatever it is,
two dollars and some change it's three dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
They'll say that's not a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
But I know people that it's expensive for them to
get that metro card. Every month they go spend three
hundred dollars a month getting their metro card.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
That's that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
That's just.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
If it's just you can't have no car, that's just.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
That's if it's just you, and if you have a
because if you got a two bedroom and you gotta
a dependent that you gotta take care of a kid
that go to school and he might have activities well,
and then on the basketball team, you gotta pay for
the jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
But if you lay on top of that, if you
layer on top of that that the child has some
type of disability or you have a disability, that's another thing.
If you layer on top of that that the child
or you have an allergy like jan is over here,
can't eat anything, So she has to buy the most
not expensive, but the best or.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
The highest quality.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Right because some people could just eat the American cheese.
Some people cannot put that in their body at all.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
So it's it's tough, it's rough. And then you need
a phone for survival.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
And phone bill.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
I thought that phone bill. I'll be seeing all these
advertisements and say, your phone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Bill twenty dollars a month. It's the biggest scam. Bruh,
it's yo.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
Never watched the TV where the things say that the
phone you could get you a phone from this company,
say it's twenty dollars a month.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
But the phone court, but the phone costs one hundred
dollars to change because they're making you pay for the
phone every month because the phone be like, damn near
two thousand dollars, so they take that out of it,
and then every line you add to it, they keep on.
I got three lines on my phone, and my phone's
three hundred and change every month.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
You got the wrong you need to go back.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
To the company because they say it's thirty dollars. My
phone bill is high, yes, and I don't have no service.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
I think it's my phone.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
But oh, you know them people, them people, but none
quote unquote them people. But I'm just saying it is expensive.
And if you work in a place where it's a
two fare zone, some people when they get off this
is real. There are people that there is no third
fare to get them to where they're going. So in
other words, when they get off of a bus or

(01:41:56):
train uba they right no for real or walk far
because you know there's places where there's nothing, no transportation
to take you to the final destination.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
You got a lot of people who are really struggling.
It's really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
But and they say in New York two hundred and
seventy thousand dollars to live comfortably. Now it's a lot
of people that they're not necessarily living comfortable, yet they
are comfortable, so they might be probably you know, people
make eighty thousand and they find a way, but they
don't have any money.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They don't have any money
and they don't have any dependence. That's something that you
can live on. If you a bachelor or you're a
one by itself and you can you can live off
eighty thousand dons. You can figure.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Why do you keep saying that that is not true?
There are people who live in New York City right
now that's making seventy that's making fifty thousand, sixty thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
They do are you talking about wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Yes? No, yes, they.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
They live.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
They don't tell you the areas where because I know
for a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
In New York City. Yes, no way, they don't know
what areas they live in.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
They live in the project, I mean, okay, but they
live in some of the old South Bronx.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
That's not New York City you talking about in the
project talking.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
About First of all, New York City includes the Bronx.
New York City is the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Right now, if you're going to if you're going to,
only way it is if they grandfathered into apartment, right
if they mother or if something been living in the
apartment for twenty and thirty years and they got rent
stabilization and the rent don't go high.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
But if you try to get an apartment right now
anywhere in the Bronx, it's between fifteen hundred to two thousand,
I just for a rue brethrom o.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
You saying they need subsidy exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
It ain't nobody just living off of no fifty thousand
dollars that ain't by theyself. The bottom line is this
the minimum wage the Liverpool age do not add up,
and it ain't it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna
work for nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
And the billions across the season and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
They got billions dollars and y'all keep saying, why do
people need a snap? And you're lazy because you need
to snap. We live in America, the riches, the richest
nation in the world, supposedly, and we can't get healthcare.
People supposed to starve. Y'all mad at the kids that
go to school and get free lunch, like they don't
want the kids to get free lunch. They're supposed to
be in the starving and you don't want to feed

(01:44:31):
the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
The kids need breakfast, lunch, and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Get dinner too. You need to be able to send
them home with dinner because everybody might not eat. I
want to What I'm trying to tell you is my
tax money. I want my tax money to be able
to fully supply the youth, the elderly, and anytruct pull everybody.
That's everything that I give to the government. I wanted

(01:44:58):
to go to the people that need it, that are
less fortunate. I want the less fortunate to be able
to benefit from anything that I do. I do not
want my tax money to sit in and y'all split
it up with y'all tax cuts, or y'all giving it
to the war, or y'all giving it to Israel the
fund whatever they got going on, or you're giving it
to the nations. That's that's maga. The Argentine. I don't

(01:45:21):
I don't want my money to go to that. I
just don't want it. That's not where I want my
money to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
You know, so I just could build the ball. But
they would say, yeah, but that's what happened to you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Because you know where the private money. You know why
the private money comes, because you done gave the billionaires
million dollar tax cuts, so they able to throw you
back a couple of dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
So you're saying they're taking kickback, they taking kickback. Well,
that's all it is, you guys, be alleged.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Allegedly, Allegedly, that's what happens if I got If I'm
in a room with all my billionaire frehythums, they don't
want we're gonna get the best tax cuts. You're gonna
get twenty million, thirty forty And then they say hey,
and about fifty of them say we're gonna throw two
million to support you. You say, hey, look, it was private, right,
it's all private, like the game that these people is running.

(01:46:11):
But you can't take your food stamps and make a
pie and sell it. You going to jail for that's something, Lord,
have mercy. These people give me stressed out man. So
that brings us to the end of another episode. I
want to shout out again doctor shaw Noll, Robinson Kennard
soon to be removing the my God, okay, because I.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Want to decide to keep it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
I'm telling you what she said. She said that don't
fit her no more than ain't the season she in
and she was at the wrong ad said that's what
I'm said. So you know, I want to shout her out.
Make sure you'll follow her. She's doing amazing things. She
gonna come back up here and we're gonna have her
part too that because you're right, we didn't even get
the answers to the questions that we actually needed.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
Well, yeah, but we got some other we got.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
We got some. Make sure y'all continue to follow us
on Instagram at tm my Underscore Show and if you
want to follow us on YouTube, it's TMI Show PC.
I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika d Maveries and
I could always be wrong, but we were both always
and I mean always, Tamika

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Come on my sign all authentic alone, So y'all

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