March 4, 2026 • 57 mins
This week on TMI, civil rights activist Tamika D. Mallory and rapper-activist Mysonne discuss growing backlash over U.S. military bombing abroad. They push back against the notion that people should ignore politics to protect their income, arguing that today’s policies directly endanger survival, jobs, and community stability.
This episode examines the disproportionate impact of mass workforce losses on Black women and raises urgent concerns about looming economic policies, including tariffs, the “no tax on tips” proposal, potential SNAP benefit cuts, and the far-reaching implications of Project 2025.
Mallory and Mysonne also debate New York City Councilmember Zohran Mamdani’s decision to engage Donald Trump in pursuit of federal funding, warning that Trump’s history of unreliability and white supremacy-driven agenda presents serious risks for marginalized communities.
Turning to higher education and media accountability, Tamika calls out Hunter College after a professors racist remarks, and Mysonne closes with a viral video highlighting racial profiling during a traffic stop, followed by practical, life-saving advice on how to navigate police encounters safely.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Mallory and it's your boy Might song.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
It generally, we are your host of t M I.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Tamika and my song's information, truth, motivation and inspiration.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name New Energy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How you doing today, Tamika D. Malory Doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Doing well? Yes, for a spring, it's coming freezing today.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm over for anything with this cold because the cold
is getting on my nerves.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's coming, it's coming, It's coming, and then it's gonna
be summer, and then summer's gonna be over. So we
might as well let the winter play out as long
as it can so that by the time we get
to the other.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Side, we are.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
In a nice, beautiful seasonal experience.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's what I'm looking forward to for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
God willing, you know, because they the way these people
are playing out here, it might it might be more.
We might get be hotter than we.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Wow, there's that.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, it was hot last year. I mean last summer.
There were some days that was really scorching.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It might be. Nobody has said that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
One thing I could tell you is that before this
winter settled in, there were several indicators that was it
was on the I watched the weather channel, so that's
kind of stuff I'm into. On the Weather Channel, they
talked about how this was going to be one of
the coldest winters that the country has seen in extra
(01:30):
amount of years.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I ain't really paying attention to how.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Long, but now I guess I will going forward and
then post on socials with the media posts, they were like,
this is going to be a really cold winter. I
haven't seen anything to say it's going to be a
really hot summer yet.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So listen, we had war, so it's damn sure gonna
be a hot summer. I don't know for somebody's already
feeling the heat. They bombing all over the world, and
you see my t shirt, Man, no wool, I want
no war. I'm just tired of waking up.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
To just you don't want no war? Is actually not.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't want no war. I don't want war. I
don't big brain. That's the kids that they go big brain.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Somebody told me that kids say something else, and I'm like,
I guess we came up with stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Kids be having stuff. My stents always said, every time
you come up with a good other, big brain. Well,
so yeah, shout out to my brother Barry for this hat.
You know, who but Me? He been trying to get
me to wear a hoop with me get for a while,
so I was like, you know what, it matches my fly,
you know, make sure you go get a who with
(02:42):
Me hat? Because it's who but Me?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Where do we find this stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So yeah, you go to who but Me? One hundred
to my brother Barry Page and see it would say,
be easy. You see the darkskinned gentleman with his hat on,
and you'll see a multitude of different who with Me
sweaters and hats. They have variety, so you can.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Alter fat good?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, who would me? Who would me? Know?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You're a real riot, as my brother.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Who also is one of his partners. That know what?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Something happened that I just was I was, I was like, Wow,
sometimes I feel like I'm in a bubble, and then
there are other times when I realized that I'm actually
not in a bubble at all, and I have to
remind myself I'm not in a bubble. I'm actually seeing
and dealing with things as they should be dealt with.
(03:37):
There's a guy online who is a real estate guru.
He's a black man, He's in New York. He makes
some incredibly powerful videos telling his journey, explaining his journey
of entrepreneurship and real estate and you know, just all
that he's been able to do. And so I love him,
(03:59):
following him and just appreciate his content. And I saw
a video that he did the other day where he said,
stop allowing your political views to get.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In the way of your money, or get in the
way of you making money, and.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I was like sitting with it because I'm like, I've
heard that so many times, and often what happens is
when we reach a certain level of status to us
what the average person is experiencing, we become so far
away from it that we believe we can just kind
(04:42):
of play ball, you know, pass the ball around with
our political views if you will. Hey, I like a
little bit of this, but not that, and you know,
I could take a little bit and leave a little bit.
I wish that what we were experiencing in this moment
could be simplified to political views. And I think that's
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where I get slightly frustrated, because I understand that the
situation we find ourselves in right now is not about
political views, right this is literally about people's survival on
a level of international danger.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I wish that this was just about whether or not
you like some of what Trump is doing and not
some other things. Meanwhile, this man is forging towards getting
us killed. He is forging towards having some of the
people who may have been on the ladder to financial
(05:53):
success having them in dire straits. I have a friend
who was with the company for thirteen years, who was
and by the way, highly qualified, because the next thing,
you know, they'll say, well, she wasn't qualified. Highly qualified,
can run circles around other people in her field, extremely brilliant.
(06:18):
She was terminated without notice, without information, and now she
has joined the three hundred thousand black women who have
been pushed out of the workforce in the last you
know year.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, and by the way, by the way.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Not only is she qualified for the job, she's probably overqualified.
And yet now she has to figure out how to
deal with her house, with her mortgage, and her children.
And so when people have a certain status in their mind, yes,
because you've been able to create wealth and you understand
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entrepreneurship and what to do, not everyone and is wired
the same way. Thank God, the Lord blessed you with
a certain set of skills. But some people followed the
path of what was considered to be the American dream.
That they came here, they worked hard, they went to school,
they learned the skill, and they went to go take
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their service to a company or to an institution and
keep their head down, do what they're supposed to do,
and they hope that on the other end of it,
they will be able to retire with the little bit
that they are old and to take.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Care of their family.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Those people's survival has been threatened by these political views
quote unquote, when actually we are dealing with an intentional
onslaught against black people, and the person who is at
the helm of it lies every day. So in the
same video, this gentleman talks about what he heard say
(08:00):
during the State of the Union, things that could work.
He mentions tariffs that would help to get rid of
income tax. And yet the courts are every single day
you see different the corporations, the courts economists saying that
the tariff plan is not a good plan, it's a
dangerous plan, and it is actually crippling companies. You remember
(08:25):
the video of the white man standing in the middle
of his crops saying soon in the.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If I'm not able to get this field cleared and
to get these products to the distribution points, I'm gonna
lose my business.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
This is not a political view. This is actually an.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Intentional design to disenfranchise and to harm people who are
not in the top one percent. And unless you have
a plan that people who are broke right now, who
are hungry and starving today, that will not have the
opportunities that you had, They're not going to have the
(09:07):
services that you had to be able to hold on
to one thing while working on building something else.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
What is the plan for making sure that their children.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Have food tonight and tomorrow night if SNAP is cut,
so you can't even go and apply for that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So I would have to disagree with you because it
is about politics. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I didn't say it wasn't about politics. I said it's
not political.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It is not political views. It is political. It's a
political reality. Right. I think that to ignore how these
people political views who are in positions of power are
affecting our every day living is just asinine to act
like the political views that are expressed every day by
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this government, in which they put into activity, in which
they actually make legislation and past laws that affecting our life.
If we're not politically viewing these things and saying to
ourselves that this shit is wrong or or expressing it,
it is destroying us. And I think that when people
say that I was having a conversation with somebody and
(10:17):
he was saying that people are too emotion, right, that
we're looking at politics and politics have people emotion. And
what I've grown to learn at my elder age, as
I grow older, is that everything is politics. Everything is political,
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and your political views shaped the way that your principles, right, Like,
your political views are definitely surrounded by your principle. So
what you're willing to deal with politically shows what you're
willing to stand for principally, right, It shows it shows
your integrity. Like if you're willing to vote for a
person who is in involved with pedophilia, who's involved with scam,
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and who's involved with stealing, if you're willing to overlook
those things because you know what, I might get a
tax cut here, right, then that reflects on your principles.
Those things reflect your integrity, those reflect your morality. Right.
So when we have in conversations, for me, all these
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things encompass the reality of who you are. So people say, oh,
I don't want to if I can do the least
amount of business or anything with somebody who's unprincipled. I'm
at an age, I'm at a space in my life
that that's what I want to do. When I was
twenty one, I didn't understand, and we would have disagreements
and this and that. But at fifty, as I approach fifty,
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I understand how dangerous it is for you to do business,
for you to surround yourself by people who aren't principled
because they don't have any moral compass. They will cut
your throat, they will backstab you, they will do anything
because their main goal is just to acquire some level
of money or status, and I don't want to be
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around that.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Well, I would say this, I still don't believe it's political.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's as simple as political views.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
These are the values and as you said, principles, and
they are using politics to carry out a mission. Right,
So this is not let's just make yo get your money,
because what we are watching them do is going to
eventually impact you as well. It just hasn't gotten to
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you yet, but it is coming to your doorstep, and
it's simple things like being out in your community, walking
down the street, mining your business in an otherwise pretty
safe community, and the next thing you know, somebody slitting
your damn throat for what they think you have. It's
not to say that that couldn't have happened to you before,
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but there's certainly time when things are heightened by the
political climate of what's going on. This is when funding
starts to become a problem for your projects. Now, hopefully
this gentleman is somebody who stoppile millions and millions and
maybe billions of dollars to where they don't even need
to go to the bank to make an arrangement.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
For a new property. But more than likely.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You need a bank loan, you need a note, and
you probably have leverage to be able to do so
because of the amount of business you've done. But when
it comes to a place where the economy is crashing,
you too will see an issue with being able to
access a certain amount of capital. How about tenants when
tenants don't have jobs. So when you say don't worry
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about it, you know, and by the way, he did
mention that tariffs might not work, you know, and then
he went on to mention the no tax on tips, right,
And what we found out is that for people who
thought that was like one of the benefits of voting
for Donald Trump, they've been online saying, wait a minute,
there's a certain percentage, a certain threshold where.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You can't claim the tips anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So basically it's it's still tax on tips, right, And
a lot of tipped workers don't even pay a lot
of federal income tax anyway, So this is not like
you just put the tips in your pocket and that's
the end of the story. No, it doesn't work like that.
There's always a catch twenty two with this man. He
lies so much that if you're listening, how could you
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listen to anything that he said in the State of
the Union and think that somehow this is gonna benefit
people when we already know that damn near everything he's
told us has been a lie. And it's scary to
me that we still have a mentality that this is.
This is a person even with Ma'm Donnie Maya. I'm
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Donnie who I actually love and support. But I hope
he knows what he's doing going down to Washington and
meeting with Donald Trump and hoping that Trump does what
he says he's going to do, because this man always
has a loophole in everything, and he's gonna come back
and ask you for something eventually, so you will get
from him whatever you think is the benefit today, and
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by the time you swing around the block, he's already
come up with a way to put you in a
trick bag against your own people and the people that
you think that you're getting something on their behalf. And
so when I hear people talk about when I think
about over three hundred thousand blackmen, which we know that
the number based upon Representative Ayana Presley who has said
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that this is a million women and millions of people
who are impacted by what black women mean to our community.
When we see an onsought like that, sure there may
be something else that they're doing that's of benefit that
you can you can go out and apply for something
or get something.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I'm sure it's a million things, mortgage, something with mortgages
or you know, different benefits.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm not saying that there's not.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'm not saying there's not, but I hate when it
is framed as just like these fleeting views of whether
you agree or disagree, when they're actually guns pointed at
us as a people, it's bombs pointed at us, and
it has the ability to take out communities, our funding
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for our organizations, things.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That we fought for, fought like hell for that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yes, over time you have different presidents that shift things around.
You can be upset, you can fight, but you have
somebody whose project twenty twenty five mentality is about making
America great again. And if you look at the images
that they're putting on the federal government's website, it is
all white people. It is white children in the schools.
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They don't even include you. They do not even include
your black ass in it. So sure, you as an
individual may benefit, but our people overall will not be
in the same position or positions that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We fought so hard to be in.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And it is going to eventually come around the corner
for each and every one of us.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And it's sad.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's sad that there's so many people who are like, well,
we should just make sure that we put our political views,
not that you shouldn't care, but put it a little
bit to the side and just get some money. Everything
is not about money.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I just think that we in this very strange times.
You know, I want to go back to demand Mondanni piece,
you know, and I definitely second that emotion that you know,
you got to be very careful with Trump. But I
think I just just watching the way that Mandannie has
played this is very strategic, you know. I think what
it shows is that he's intelligent. I think he said
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to itself, Okay, we need federal funding, and this is
the person in charge of federal funding. So what I'm
willing to do is say, hey, this is what we need.
Right I'm gonna have a meeting with you. I'm gonna
sit down with you and say this is what New
York requires, because that's what my job requires. My job
requires me to sit down and meet with the people
who have the resources to give to my city because
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that's what I was voted in to do. So I'm
gonna make sure that I do what I'm supposed to do.
I'm gonna have these meetings with you. I'm gonna tell you,
but I'm not going to move from what my line
in the saying is we areware what my platform is.
I'm not compromising my platform. The meeting that I'm having
with you is about how development in the city will
benefit the country. So these are the meetings we're having.
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When you start talking about things that go dis according
to what it is that I ran on, what my
principles are, then I believe that you'll see a different mind, Donnie.
But I think at this point, when you look at
the conversations that he's having, when you look at the dialogue,
he was able to go in there, get the woman
who is removed from Columbia College and kidnapped, get her freed.
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He was able to go in there and actually make
Trump look like he's willing to commit to something that's
happened in New York City. I think at this point
what may and mind Donnie has showed that he is
very strategic. Now I think there's going to be a
pushback because, like you said, I think at some point
Trump is going to say, Okay, I'm doing this and that,
and I need you to do this, and I think
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at that point we're going to see where everything lies.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, that's why I point.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
But that's why I said, I hope, I pray he
knows what he's doing, and I have faith in the
fact that he's thinking what is the best strategy for
what I'm dealing with. All I'm stating is that if
I know anything about Donald Trump, right.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
He doesn't even know what the fuck he's doing. So
how about that, Like he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Even know what he's doing, he can't see past ego
and vendettas right, he also is what it's a groupie.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Trump is the biggest groupie. He loves anybody who has start.
Maybe he must attach yourself to anybody who is loved
by the world. He wants to attach it. And the
reason why he has a vendetta because most of those
people have shunned him, is all life.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But what I'm saying is that those things in my
judgment cloud in my in my opinion, the things I
mentioned cloud is judgment.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But and the thing that he loves more.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Than grouping and all the other things is white supremacy.
That's the thing that he loves more than anything else.
And I'm not sure where that line will come and
what will have to be done to unravel the cluster
hell that he ends up trying to put Mom, Donnie or.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Anybody else in. I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I want to see our mayor do well and succeed,
it's a benefit to us. I think he is a
very he has a lot of integrity. He has integrity,
let's not say a lot of he has integrity. As
you said, He's strategic, he's not stupid, and I think
that he will ultimately show make us proud.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I do believe that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
However, just like he apologized to on I don't know
if you saw, you know, there's a video where he
says that he apologizes for stating that immigrants built this city,
and he kind of just left it at that, right
or not? Kind of that's what he did. And he's like,
you know, he is guilty of not including the original
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contributions of Africans who were bought here, of black people
in this city, right, And so that means that he
is not above mistake. He is not above making a
wrong move or wrong statement. And I'm saying that when
it comes to Trump, that's a dangerous and a very
very slippery slope that you're on. So we're gonna have
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this back and we see because if he didn't meet
with Trump, if he took the position or the pasture
that he's some you know, I'm some radical that refuses
to talk to Trump. What people would do is ultimately
CASTI gay him as being the problem. They would say
he's the problem, and not that Trump is the problem.
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So he has to be able to show I've done
everything that I'm supposed to do and now it's on
him to either be a president with good sense or
to continue with his white supremacist mindset. So that that
just is hot. But I what I am saying, to
go back to the original thing, is that people in
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their minds believe that this is just one president and
it's not that serious.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They have They just don't know. They just don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
They just don't know when somebody is threatening to cancel elections,
to take away your power to even voice your opinion. Again,
when they cancel an election, it's not just presidential. If
you can't vote, you also will not be able to
vote for your legislators in your particular local districts, in
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your local cities. This is very serious, and to me,
that's not a political view. That is dictatorship, and no
one wins under a dictatorship. Maybe the black man who
I'm speaking of and other people who are in his
comments section, it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Was pretty much a fifty to fifty split of views.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Right, maybe those individuals are in the top one percent
and they'll be fine, especially if they're a white man
in the top one percent.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But there's not a distinction being made between black.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Folks and immigrants.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
They are after all of us. So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And I realize that people don't really care what happens
to black women. They actually I'm not saying this, man,
but actually the fact that black women have been pushed
out of the workforce. There's a lot of men and
black men who are like, that's good, Like the bitch
don't need to go to work, no how she thinks
she too damn smart, too whatever. They don't see the
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crisis that I'm telling you as an international issue when
black women don't have money.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, we're just in very peculiar times. Like you said,
there's a lot of men who want women to go
back in the house and cook, and they saying they
not doing enough, they're not domesticated enough. And you know,
putting women in positions of power have destroyed the household,
the black household. So you know, there's this misogynistic, you know,
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view that is not prevalent. You know, I've said it
a few times that they are amplifying the black MAGA voices,
the black conservative voices they're amplifying. They completely taking over
the algorithm. I go on my page and I put
some shit that's totally about us, and you see them
send fifty sixty bots. And I have a guy on
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my page who is following me and he argues with
them because he knows that they're box. He sent me
the whole algorithm. He showed me the metrics, literally showed
me the metrics. He showed me where they sending them from.
Like he he has proven. He's like, this is not
He said, I started studying your page because I was like,
why are they coming to your page like this? Why
(25:30):
there's so many people that don't agree with you, that
don't even fit into your algorithm on your page? And
he said, I went and studied the metrics. I know
where they sending them from. He showed me the farms
they sending them from. He showed me how many they send.
Like there's a real, you know, calculated effort to demean
our voices and to amplify those voices. So that's what
we are. So you definitely gonna see people say, oh,
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they don't care black women. That's good for them and
all that, But ninety five percent of us do not.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Agree know that. But I'm just saying there is a sentiment.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I don't know that everybody is speaking out loud who
believes that. I think you would be surprised that there's
less than ninety five percent of men who believe that
women should be in their place. Right. And this is
not political. Again, this is a values thing. This is
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the idea that the more women have become successful and educated,
we are less in need of the man. I'm not
talking racial, I'm just saying in general. So so when
we say over three hundred thousand black women have been
pushed out of work for uce, it does not move
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certain people. They don't understand that the attacks against diversity, equity,
and inclusion was specifically about black women. They don't get
that right, And so again this becomes a political.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
This for some people is just a political view.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And meanwhile, our households are falling apart as a result.
I know for sure, maybe other people don't, but I
know friends, family, and otherwise. Let me just put it
this way. It's not that they don't work hard. It's
not like they lazy. They getting up in the morning
six seven o'clock, going to whatever place doing their job,
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or they had a business that now their business had
to be closed down, a coffee shop, a flower shop.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
A you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
And now at sixty five years old, they're being told
to go learn a different skill to become an electrician
or a plumber, or some feel that you might have
a little bit more longevity in that's what they're being told.
And I see it, We see it. Felicia Butterfield Jones,
who is collecting the data, is seeing women applying for
support in ways that they haven't in the past. All
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of us are feeling it. I feel it right. But
to to some people, that's not that important to them.
What's important to them is to listen, listen to a
liar and figure out where you might be able to
make a few million dollars on crypto or something else,
which we what we see even and that no one's
really talking about this, even with the bitcoin conversation. Well,
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guess what, Mss Girthy, the woman who was abducted, Savannah
Girthy's mother was abducted. They those people were pushing for
a bitcoin for six million dollars for a reason because
they know the regulations.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They understand Trump wants.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
To deregulate it as far as you know, as far
as we currently know, until he figures out a whole
bunch of black people made money, I bet you you'll
see something different. But right now, in that top one percent,
it's been his white men who have dominated that particular
feel But those people knew that if you could use bitcoin,
they could get that money and probably disappear. Cash has
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too many tracking systems, but bitcoin would be something that
they would be more successful, not totally probably, but more successful.
So even that is showing you that our systems are
so vulnerable. We are actually dealing with imminent threats all
around us. And I don't think this is a political
view situation. I think it is a values issue and
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that politics are being used to implement strategies that will
harm our communities for decades. Who knows how long it's
going to take us to try to unravel some of
the stuff that has happened. So you know, so that's
how I feel. So let me go to I don't know,
this story of the day feels so insignificant. It's not
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really insignificant. It's actually very significant. But it feels like
what we were just talking about was so heavy and
then you kind of go to this. But for my
thought of the day, I want to talk about this
Hunter College professor last week Until Freedom put out a
statement about the incident that happened where Alison Friedman, she
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is a professor at Hunter and she was on a
I think like.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
A community council meeting.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
A young student was a young black student was saying
that she didn't want her school to be closed. And
this woman didn't know her mic was on on the
zoom and she started saying, you know, black people are
so dumb that you know, they don't even know they're.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
In a bad school.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And if you train them, they will use the back
and they're pretty much going to conform. Right. That was
her statement, And you know, obviously, first of all, the
people on the zoom are like, just so you know,
we can hear you, which is totally irrelevant whether or
not weak near her. That was the wrong reaction to
start with. It's that what you said is racist, but
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you know, hey.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, maybe you in shock. You ain't get there yet.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And then we saw some statements come out from the city,
the chancellor, the superintendent.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Because this student is actually a student in New York.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
City Public school And so their statements they were, Okay,
you know, the woman was put on leave and that's
all Hunter has done at this point.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
She wow, that's I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
And then and then the woman's statement said, you know,
I was talking to my child.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
She was talking to her child.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Trying to teach her child about systemic racism. And she said,
but those aren't my views. Now the gas lighting is
enormous here. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
How could you teach your child about systemic racism and
tell her the most racist shit, use.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Racist tropes against us. And what is scary to me though,
is that she's admitting she was speaking to her child.
So she was teaching her child passing down racist ideology
about black people while a black student was speaking on
the zoom And what it made me think about, especially
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with it being basically the same week as the BAFTA
issue where Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo were you know,
disrespected by BAFTA and BBC Because BBC the network is
the one that had the ability to edit out the
use of the word nword during the show, right they
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had the ability to edit that because guess what.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They edited out, free Palestine. They edited out the F word.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
They edited out stuff, so it's not like they didn't
catch other statements from the same individual who has Turett's
he said, I think he said the F word. It
was a two hour delay, so they edited that part
out right when he said the F word, and somebody
else probably said free Palestine, and they were able to
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address that, but for some reason they did not edit
out the use of the N word. And I'm just
thinking that where during Black History Month these two things
collide and show a picture to America about how disrespected
black people are. What startles me about the Alison Friedman
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issue is that her being on lead is like insult
to injury. Why do I know that I was canceled
because of something somebody else said?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Right, It wasn't what Tamika Mallory said.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They didn't have a record of me saying things that
any particular community felt offended by, and they canceled me,
canceled all my speaking engagements, which ultimately meant fired me.
I lost income as a result of me sitting in
a place and being in relationship with someone who they
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deemed to be afensive to them, right, this was and
I was, and I was punished for the words of
a man that were not in even my words. And
even when I said, well, here's the parts that I
disagreed with of what he said, they told me, no,
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that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, but she can be on leave.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
After having insulted, disrespected, and being outed outright racist towards
this young girl. She needs to be fired. She needs
to be fired. And guess what, every newspaper across the
world put me in it as if I were and
they called me a hate monger, they called me anti Semitic,
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they called me everything because of an association.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
This is the woman's own words that came out of
her mouth, out of her mouth, and she's gonna leave.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
She needs to leave, like for good. You know, it
just doesn't make sense to me. We we constantly, you know,
cape for white supremacy. You know, it's there's no there's
no excuse for what she said. You know, the fact
that she was saying it to her child makes even worse.
Mean that she's poisoning the mind of the next generation.
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You know, a lot of these kids are a lot
more aware of the social climate and social issues, and
you know, they're growing, they're they're trying to eradicate racism.
So to know that you still have people like her
who are poisoning.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Their beth like these young white kids, some of them
are they really are they like they don't you know,
they like this ain't right.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, and they're actually trying to eradicate it in the
fact that you got her still pushing that saying honest,
it's just disgusting. So I hope that the school does
the right thing. You know, I'm going to actually reach
out to the parent and the child and see maybe
we can get them on here to give some thoughts
about what they think. I definitely think Hunters College needs
to go on and fire her, you know, give her
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walking papers, because someone who has the ability, the wherewithal,
and actually the want to poison the mind of youth
that way definitely shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, I mean, you know, and I would say these
two things from my thought of the day. First, Alison
Friedman's child has absolutely been poisoned by their mother's racism.
And imagine how that child feels or what sense of.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Entitlement that child now.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Feels over the black child who was disrespected and traumatized
and traumatized on that zoom call in front of everybody. Right,
this is where that entitlement begins to grow because my
mother basically said you dumb.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So that's one.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
The second thing though, in terms of Hunter College not
firing Alison Friedman immediately, is that we must have a
new sense of grace and I would love to hear
about it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I would love to.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Hear about the grace that is being allowed for people
to make a mistake or to be misunderstood when they
are making statements.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I want to hear it. I would love to know if.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
There's anybody out here who worked for Hunter College and
maybe said free Palestine, or they had a position on
an issue that seemed to be or that have been
deemed controversial, and whether or not they were able to
just keep their job.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I promise you I might be wrong, but I promise.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
You that if you are a committed supporter of the
Palestinian people on Hunter College's campus and you up there
doing saying and being very visible about your support for Palestine,
I bet you there's been some issues.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I bet you I want some.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Please, if you hear this, share it, make sure you
get it out to the whole city so that we
can find out if anyone has been fired at that
school because they made a statement about something that wasn't
even them being racist, but just has been considered a
controversial statement by the college.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I bet you that has happened.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And so if we are providing grace for Alison Friedman,
then let's see how that grace is spread around across
many different fields and across academia in general. I want
to see some of the Jewish brothers and sisters who
you know already when it came to students of Columbia
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at Barnard and other colleges around this country, Free Palestine
is suppose to get you kicked out protesting for the
Palestinian people. Eric Adams sent the police in there to
go beat students down.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Okay, So I want.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
To see all these people, including someone like Eric Adams.
Why are you not using your platform to call for
this woman to be fired because.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's no longer conducive to him, you know, as the mayor.
You know he's still win it. He's still he would
have been like, listen, people have the right to the
views and we can I don't say I would have
let the school do their own investigation. I'm not going
to be involved in it because you know, Colombia has
a hunter, has their own rules, so you know, I'm
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I'm very sure that they'll take care of the property.
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I don't know what he would have said, but I
could tell you this.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
He wouldn't have did ship.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I could tell you this.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I do know that this is the same man who
defended Daniel Penny after he strangled Jordan nearly to death
on the train, and so I have absolutely no confidence.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And as I said, I.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Want to see the various communities who have participated in
the canceling of anybody who has gone against the state
of Israel or the genocide that has taking place in
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or against the Palestinian people. I want to know, is
there a major movement to have this woman fired for
what she did to that young black girl and to
black people in general. That's the question that I had
because I don't see it. I don't see they as
it related to me. Again, a person who was associated
(40:50):
with somebody they don't like. Okay, there was thought pieces,
there was op eds, there was campaigns to have me
kicked out, fired, expelled, black balled, and yet this woman
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could be on leave for what she did to a child,
and a and a and a TV network that muted
all kinds of things, edited, all kinds of things, left
the word the N word towards two black men, and.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
The and the and the award show people did not
even immediately rush.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
To them to say, We're so sorry that this happened.
All of this is going on, I'm looking for the
op eds and not from the same people. I'm looking
and I'm not talking about from the the you know,
the same people right who will always do it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Rabbi Rabbi Baer Ellman and Rabbi Sharing Clime. I'm not
talking about them.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I'm talking about the folks who was who are they
have a litmus test for what.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Black people can and cannot do?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And where is the ADL they supposed to be such
supporters of, uh, they're supposed to be in relationship, these
these amazing bonds with black people. I'm gonna go see
maybe they've done it. I can't say I didn't look,
but I want to see whether or not. The ad
L has put out a statement calling for Allison Friedman
(42:31):
to be fired. For what she did to that young
girl and to black people, particularly during Black History months.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Won't find it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I wonder where Apak is.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You won't find it.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Getting put money up to make sure that black people
don't win election.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
That's what they don't care about. It's not that they
how black people. It's certain kinds of black people.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
They get the certain kinds in office, so you know
they they ain't got time focused.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
On that anyway. That's what I have to say.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I pray they able to edit this because Babe, I
had so much on my mind, but you know, I'm
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I get it because I don't get it, you know,
and and that just brings me to my I don't
get it for today. You know, I had so many
different things. As you know, I can always go in
on Trump because I can going on this country. But
I was really as you talked about this racism thing,
this thing came up on my page that I've decided
to post today. And it was a lady in her
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car and she's sitting in her car and the cop
pulls her over and he asks her, you know, for
a license, and say, hey, what are you doing here?
So she said, well, I was just dropping my son off.
He said, well, I've seen you pass something and she's like, yeah,
I passed in his cup. You know. He's I drove
back around the block because I'm tired of him leaving
(43:59):
his shit my car. He left his coffee cover in
my car, and I was like, get your shit out
of my car. So he's like, sure, you're not. You know,
there's not nothing illegal in the car. She's like, what
are you talking about illegal? I'm passing a cup. Like
what do you want to search the car? He's like, wow,
if you allow me to. She's like, well, what do
you think I was passing to him? Now it's a
black lady, mind you, and it's a white man. She's
driving to a son's building. He comes out, gives her
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a cup. He don't stop him, he don't do it.
He just comes over to her and she says, so,
what do you think there's some type of trans They said,
that's what it looked like to me. He's like trans
that what do you I just told you I was
giving him a cup. Now this man is so hell
bent on this, and the lady literally has the whole conversation.
He's just so help bent till we ask her, do
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you have crack in the car? Like to me, right
like he didn't say, he asked her do you have drugs?
And then he went to crack. And we know the
the racial connotation of crack. We know where the communities
that crack come from, We know the p people that
they have said use crack. We know the kind of people.
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And for you to look at this woman and just
assume that she would have or assume that there's a
possibility that she would have crack in her car, to me,
it was just so disrespectful. He was demeaning. It was disrespectful,
it was derogatory, and she took it as such, and
she she she got real loud and like, well, I'm
(45:25):
a business owner, I'm a fifty five year woman, Like,
I don't have no crack, I'm no drug. I don't
have nothing in my car. Why because I'm black And
you see me talking to a black handed black man
something that I told you as a cup, you assume
that there's drug and crack in here. You didn't just
say drugs, but crack, Like to me, that's like that's
the lowest form of drug, like that's where you the
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poverty drug and you just assumed that this black lady
was getting crack from somebody that was her son, Like you,
you completely misread and not only did you misread what happened,
you completely pegged her and disrespected her. Right now, you
you didn't just misread that the fact that he was
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giving a cup, she was giving her son a cup,
because that's what's happening. But you you want a step
lower to assume that there might be cracked in a
woman's car, Like just when I heard the man ask
a lady was cracked, like, I was so confused, and
I know had he seen a white boy wolf from
building a white woman that age in her car that
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he wouldn't ask him that I'm one hundred percent short.
And he goes into, oh, you making a racist. It
could have been a Mexican. First thing, he said, it
could have been a Mexican. It could and you still
going into the same disparaging viewpoints about racial people, about
different races, about different people that's not white. You went
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from a black person to a Mexican and didn't last
oh it could have been white green. No, we were
talking about the reality you know, and just watching the
fact that that lady had to go through that really
just just made it grinded my gears. As we said,
you know, I was really like pissed off, and I'm like, damn,
why why still in twenty twenty six do we have
(47:09):
to be profiled and degraded? You know, Like just imagine
that lady says she's a business owner. She probably never
been in any trouble or nothing. She probably is just
a regular citizen, done everything right to get pulled over
by a white man and asked her that she have
cracked crack, Like just just think about that. She's like,
(47:33):
what the fuck are you talking about? People don't even
use crack no more. I didn't even but you you've
seen this black woman and you paired her with crack
like that?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like, well, I mean, I think that one is called
stopping for us. It's an actual policy choice by the
police department and the mayor. I don't know what town
is in. I saw the video on your page, and
I didn't watch it to finish, so I don't know
exactly what took place, but it's a policy decision to
stopping for certain people in certain communities and to profile
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them based upon whatever may be happening. Maybe it's a
high crack area, maybe it's not. I don't know, But
what I will say is that you know, there are
many people who are probably experiencing the same type of
racial profiling, but there's no video to show it, and
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that particular department has made a decision, again a policy
decision that whether you were older, younger, oh, professional or not,
you steal a nigga. So this is what we're dealing
with in society, and it's pretty sad, you know.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Like I said, I saw it in passing.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
I think another thing is important is do not ever
offer to have your car searched. If they want to
search it, they will have to bring it up and
have just cause it's supposed to be due process, even
on the side of the road. But do not ever
offer them to search your vehicle. And you know, because
they plant things and they lie, and it's it's you know,
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all of that, so you know you never want to
do that. They need to have a reason for doing so,
and it needs to be where it can get in
a report, and it could all make sense, especially obviously
obviously in your favor.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And you know, I wonder if the police department is going.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
To be like, Wow, this stop is a pure example
of why our policies are wrong. Let's see, let's see
if this particular stop makes that department say we have
to do things different.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah. And I just feel sorry for that woman because
you could just tell that there's a level of disrespect
that she felt and she couldn't And I think that's
why she was like, you want to search the car,
because it's like her mind, she's like, what are you
talking about. She's you know, she's like, oh, I'm just
giving my son a cup. You know, in her mind,
she's not even thinking that this is even serious.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
No, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
But this speaks to what we always say about what
it was that show forty eight hours when.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I'd be like, are they lawyers anywhere?
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:22):
The first forty eight like hello, get the lawyer. I'm
yelling at the TV. Get the lawyer, because exactly, they
will violate. And it's just that split second where they
ask you a question, and by the time they ask
you one or two questions, and you think, and this
has got to be a joke, because.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I don't I don't even know what you're talking. Guess
what happens.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Before you know it, you done answered something, you done
started down a track that could put you in prison
for a long time or at least coldjam you up.
So you have to be very very mindful that you're
never talking to your friend.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
When you're talking talking to law enforcement, you're not.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Unfortunately, I hate to say that because I got friends
who are cops who will.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Be like, damn, really like, I ain't that you work
for them. People. The color is not black, it's not white.
The color is blue.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
And so even your own friends, when you're talking to them,
what they say, it's like doing business. When you're doing
business with people, even if it's a friend of yours,
do business. When you finish business after seven o'clock or
on the weekend or the holiday.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Function, then you can let your hair down.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
But when we're sitting at this table doing this business,
I have to realize what side of the table you're
on and what side of the table I'm on.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
And there's never no.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Matter how friendly it is, don't even how much they
cue and you like them and they speak to you
nicely and give you respect, they still work for a
system that is not designed to support, help or protect us,
and so you never offer them to search your vehicle.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
I'm not judging her. Her understand exactly why she did.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
It's definitely just a it's a teachable teachable you never
do that.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
She learns from it, but not just her, because we
all learned from it. She knows.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
But also first forty eight, when they sitting there and
they like, what you mean, I was at my mom house.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Don't you tell me say nothing about.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Your Yeah, fucked up right, Yeah, we went back and
seen you want that exactly, and you was like, damn, okay,
I went to my mom house after this sord but
that's not what you said. Then they sat.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
You're a liar.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
You're a liar, and they tripped you up and showing
this film in court because you didn't just didn't shut up.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
And get there with the lawyer. The lawyer put.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Your whole situation. I want to end it, but you know,
in the fact that I wore this shirt, wore this shirt,
you know, I just want to speak to the times
that we're in, you know, And I'm just praying for everybody,
you know, I'm praying for the people who lost their
lives no matter.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Where you fifty people at a hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
People at a school in Iran was bombed and it
was heard it was about one hundred and fifteen girls
that were killed, and.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
They love killing kids kids. Is not as.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
It's just it's really, it's really to me, it's just
unreal that we have an administration the president who who
ran on no new wars and who ran on being
the peace and always wants the Nobel Peace Prize, that
they're waging wars daily that legal wards not getting any
(53:40):
you know, confirmation and anything from Congress.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
It's just and your cause was so just.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
We were so just it wouldn't be hard for you
to do. So, you know, we're bombing the same country
that they said that they knocked out all of their
nuclear plants, totally obliterated everything. In June, they came back
and said that they had to bomb him because they
were threatned to building nuclear bombs again. So it's nothing
(54:10):
that we hear in America is true, you know, and
it's sad that we live in a place like that.
You know, I just want you to be be aware. Sure,
there are people who did not like the leader, and
I ran sure he was a dictator. I don't know
all the things. I only know what America shows us.
(54:30):
And sure they painted him to be this dictator who
killed and murdered his people, who funded terrorists, who did
all these things. And if that's who he was, then
you know, whatever God had for himly had for him.
But to believe that there's a country of ninety million
people and all of them are happy that they've killed
(54:52):
their leader, and when they show these propaganda on TV
and people waving, and some of those people actually would
actually I feel that way. But I've seen so many
videos of hundreds of thousands of people who are sad,
who are not happy, who are not happy with America.
And I want you to understand that we have a
president who is putting Americans at risks, because as you
(55:17):
walk around in this bubble thinking that the ship that
we're doing in this country to other countries, the way
we bombing, the way that we're.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
We're supporting, paying for genocide, paying.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
For genocide, that other countries are not looking at us
saying that America is the enemy. See, we live in
this bubble because they want you to believe this ship.
You go to Fox News, They're gonna keep playing this
and they're gonna see America's doing this and we're we're
the we're the good guys, and we this and all
of this shit. And then you we asked about terrorists,
and you know, terrorists are created because America is doing
(55:50):
shit to other countries. That's what creates when when you're
a little kid and you've seen America bomb your country
and you're a little kid and you seen your daughters
and your sister get blown in half sitting in front
of your face, it creates those type of things. So
I just want you to be aware. Do not be
you know, misled into thinking that the shit that's going
(56:11):
on here and the shit that we're doing to other
countries is okay, and they're just happy that we're just
obliterating and killing their countries and taking their resources and
kidnapping their leaders and all this shit. It's not okay,
And don't live in a bubble to think it is.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
These are not political views.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
These are not political These are real views. Do more
research than Fox News in your favorite blog site that
has you know, the political talking head with the black
conservative voice that tells you, yeah, these people are happy.
You know, Trump is the man and there's a black
dude that told me Trump was the first black president.
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How you doing today, Tamika D. Malory Doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Doing well? Yes, for a spring, it's coming freezing today.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm over for anything with this cold because the cold
is getting on my nerves.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's coming, it's coming, It's coming, and then it's gonna
be summer, and then summer's gonna be over. So we
might as well let the winter play out as long
as it can so that by the time we get
to the other.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Side, we are.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
In a nice, beautiful seasonal experience.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's what I'm looking forward to for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
God willing, you know, because they the way these people
are playing out here, it might it might be more.
We might get be hotter than we.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Wow, there's that.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, it was hot last year. I mean last summer.
There were some days that was really scorching.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It might be. Nobody has said that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
One thing I could tell you is that before this
winter settled in, there were several indicators that was it
was on the I watched the weather channel, so that's
kind of stuff I'm into. On the Weather Channel, they
talked about how this was going to be one of
the coldest winters that the country has seen in extra
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amount of years.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I ain't really paying attention to how.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Long, but now I guess I will going forward and
then post on socials with the media posts, they were like,
this is going to be a really cold winter. I
haven't seen anything to say it's going to be a
really hot summer yet.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So listen, we had war, so it's damn sure gonna
be a hot summer. I don't know for somebody's already
feeling the heat. They bombing all over the world, and
you see my t shirt, Man, no wool, I want
no war. I'm just tired of waking up.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
To just you don't want no war? Is actually not.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't want no war. I don't want war. I
don't big brain. That's the kids that they go big brain.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Somebody told me that kids say something else, and I'm like,
I guess we came up with stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Kids be having stuff. My stents always said, every time
you come up with a good other, big brain. Well,
so yeah, shout out to my brother Barry for this hat.
You know, who but Me? He been trying to get
me to wear a hoop with me get for a while,
so I was like, you know what, it matches my fly,
you know, make sure you go get a who with
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Me hat? Because it's who but Me?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Where do we find this stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So yeah, you go to who but Me? One hundred
to my brother Barry Page and see it would say,
be easy. You see the darkskinned gentleman with his hat on,
and you'll see a multitude of different who with Me
sweaters and hats. They have variety, so you can.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Alter fat good?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, who would me? Who would me? Know?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You're a real riot, as my brother.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Who also is one of his partners. That know what?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Something happened that I just was I was, I was like, Wow,
sometimes I feel like I'm in a bubble, and then
there are other times when I realized that I'm actually
not in a bubble at all, and I have to
remind myself I'm not in a bubble. I'm actually seeing
and dealing with things as they should be dealt with.
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There's a guy online who is a real estate guru.
He's a black man, He's in New York. He makes
some incredibly powerful videos telling his journey, explaining his journey
of entrepreneurship and real estate and you know, just all
that he's been able to do. And so I love him,
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following him and just appreciate his content. And I saw
a video that he did the other day where he said,
stop allowing your political views to get.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In the way of your money, or get in the
way of you making money, and.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I was like sitting with it because I'm like, I've
heard that so many times, and often what happens is
when we reach a certain level of status to us
what the average person is experiencing, we become so far
away from it that we believe we can just kind
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of play ball, you know, pass the ball around with
our political views if you will. Hey, I like a
little bit of this, but not that, and you know,
I could take a little bit and leave a little bit.
I wish that what we were experiencing in this moment
could be simplified to political views. And I think that's
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where I get slightly frustrated, because I understand that the
situation we find ourselves in right now is not about
political views, right this is literally about people's survival on
a level of international danger.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I wish that this was just about whether or not
you like some of what Trump is doing and not
some other things. Meanwhile, this man is forging towards getting
us killed. He is forging towards having some of the
people who may have been on the ladder to financial
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success having them in dire straits. I have a friend
who was with the company for thirteen years, who was
and by the way, highly qualified, because the next thing,
you know, they'll say, well, she wasn't qualified. Highly qualified,
can run circles around other people in her field, extremely brilliant.
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She was terminated without notice, without information, and now she
has joined the three hundred thousand black women who have
been pushed out of the workforce in the last you
know year.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, and by the way, by the way.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Not only is she qualified for the job, she's probably overqualified.
And yet now she has to figure out how to
deal with her house, with her mortgage, and her children.
And so when people have a certain status in their mind, yes,
because you've been able to create wealth and you understand
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entrepreneurship and what to do, not everyone and is wired
the same way. Thank God, the Lord blessed you with
a certain set of skills. But some people followed the
path of what was considered to be the American dream.
That they came here, they worked hard, they went to school,
they learned the skill, and they went to go take
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their service to a company or to an institution and
keep their head down, do what they're supposed to do,
and they hope that on the other end of it,
they will be able to retire with the little bit
that they are old and to take.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Care of their family.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Those people's survival has been threatened by these political views
quote unquote, when actually we are dealing with an intentional
onslaught against black people, and the person who is at
the helm of it lies every day. So in the
same video, this gentleman talks about what he heard say
(08:00):
during the State of the Union, things that could work.
He mentions tariffs that would help to get rid of
income tax. And yet the courts are every single day
you see different the corporations, the courts economists saying that
the tariff plan is not a good plan, it's a
dangerous plan, and it is actually crippling companies. You remember
(08:25):
the video of the white man standing in the middle
of his crops saying soon in the.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If I'm not able to get this field cleared and
to get these products to the distribution points, I'm gonna
lose my business.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
This is not a political view. This is actually an.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Intentional design to disenfranchise and to harm people who are
not in the top one percent. And unless you have
a plan that people who are broke right now, who
are hungry and starving today, that will not have the
opportunities that you had, They're not going to have the
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services that you had to be able to hold on
to one thing while working on building something else.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
What is the plan for making sure that their children.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Have food tonight and tomorrow night if SNAP is cut,
so you can't even go and apply for that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So I would have to disagree with you because it
is about politics. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I didn't say it wasn't about politics. I said it's
not political.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It is not political views. It is political. It's a
political reality. Right. I think that to ignore how these
people political views who are in positions of power are
affecting our every day living is just asinine to act
like the political views that are expressed every day by
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this government, in which they put into activity, in which
they actually make legislation and past laws that affecting our life.
If we're not politically viewing these things and saying to
ourselves that this shit is wrong or or expressing it,
it is destroying us. And I think that when people
say that I was having a conversation with somebody and
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he was saying that people are too emotion, right, that
we're looking at politics and politics have people emotion. And
what I've grown to learn at my elder age, as
I grow older, is that everything is politics. Everything is political,
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and your political views shaped the way that your principles, right, Like,
your political views are definitely surrounded by your principle. So
what you're willing to deal with politically shows what you're
willing to stand for principally, right, It shows it shows
your integrity. Like if you're willing to vote for a
person who is in involved with pedophilia, who's involved with scam,
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and who's involved with stealing, if you're willing to overlook
those things because you know what, I might get a
tax cut here, right, then that reflects on your principles.
Those things reflect your integrity, those reflect your morality. Right.
So when we have in conversations, for me, all these
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things encompass the reality of who you are. So people say, oh,
I don't want to if I can do the least
amount of business or anything with somebody who's unprincipled. I'm
at an age, I'm at a space in my life
that that's what I want to do. When I was
twenty one, I didn't understand, and we would have disagreements
and this and that. But at fifty, as I approach fifty,
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I understand how dangerous it is for you to do business,
for you to surround yourself by people who aren't principled
because they don't have any moral compass. They will cut
your throat, they will backstab you, they will do anything
because their main goal is just to acquire some level
of money or status, and I don't want to be
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around that.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Well, I would say this, I still don't believe it's political.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's as simple as political views.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
These are the values and as you said, principles, and
they are using politics to carry out a mission. Right,
So this is not let's just make yo get your money,
because what we are watching them do is going to
eventually impact you as well. It just hasn't gotten to
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you yet, but it is coming to your doorstep, and
it's simple things like being out in your community, walking
down the street, mining your business in an otherwise pretty
safe community, and the next thing you know, somebody slitting
your damn throat for what they think you have. It's
not to say that that couldn't have happened to you before,
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but there's certainly time when things are heightened by the
political climate of what's going on. This is when funding
starts to become a problem for your projects. Now, hopefully
this gentleman is somebody who stoppile millions and millions and
maybe billions of dollars to where they don't even need
to go to the bank to make an arrangement.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
For a new property. But more than likely.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You need a bank loan, you need a note, and
you probably have leverage to be able to do so
because of the amount of business you've done. But when
it comes to a place where the economy is crashing,
you too will see an issue with being able to
access a certain amount of capital. How about tenants when
tenants don't have jobs. So when you say don't worry
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about it, you know, and by the way, he did
mention that tariffs might not work, you know, and then
he went on to mention the no tax on tips, right,
And what we found out is that for people who
thought that was like one of the benefits of voting
for Donald Trump, they've been online saying, wait a minute,
there's a certain percentage, a certain threshold where.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You can't claim the tips anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So basically it's it's still tax on tips, right, And
a lot of tipped workers don't even pay a lot
of federal income tax anyway, So this is not like
you just put the tips in your pocket and that's
the end of the story. No, it doesn't work like that.
There's always a catch twenty two with this man. He
lies so much that if you're listening, how could you
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listen to anything that he said in the State of
the Union and think that somehow this is gonna benefit
people when we already know that damn near everything he's
told us has been a lie. And it's scary to
me that we still have a mentality that this is.
This is a person even with Ma'm Donnie Maya. I'm
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Donnie who I actually love and support. But I hope
he knows what he's doing going down to Washington and
meeting with Donald Trump and hoping that Trump does what
he says he's going to do, because this man always
has a loophole in everything, and he's gonna come back
and ask you for something eventually, so you will get
from him whatever you think is the benefit today, and
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by the time you swing around the block, he's already
come up with a way to put you in a
trick bag against your own people and the people that
you think that you're getting something on their behalf. And
so when I hear people talk about when I think
about over three hundred thousand blackmen, which we know that
the number based upon Representative Ayana Presley who has said
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that this is a million women and millions of people
who are impacted by what black women mean to our community.
When we see an onsought like that, sure there may
be something else that they're doing that's of benefit that
you can you can go out and apply for something
or get something.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I'm sure it's a million things, mortgage, something with mortgages
or you know, different benefits.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm not saying that there's not.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'm not saying there's not, but I hate when it
is framed as just like these fleeting views of whether
you agree or disagree, when they're actually guns pointed at
us as a people, it's bombs pointed at us, and
it has the ability to take out communities, our funding
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for our organizations, things.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That we fought for, fought like hell for that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yes, over time you have different presidents that shift things around.
You can be upset, you can fight, but you have
somebody whose project twenty twenty five mentality is about making
America great again. And if you look at the images
that they're putting on the federal government's website, it is
all white people. It is white children in the schools.
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They don't even include you. They do not even include
your black ass in it. So sure, you as an
individual may benefit, but our people overall will not be
in the same position or positions that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We fought so hard to be in.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And it is going to eventually come around the corner
for each and every one of us.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And it's sad.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's sad that there's so many people who are like, well,
we should just make sure that we put our political views,
not that you shouldn't care, but put it a little
bit to the side and just get some money. Everything
is not about money.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I just think that we in this very strange times.
You know, I want to go back to demand Mondanni piece,
you know, and I definitely second that emotion that you know,
you got to be very careful with Trump. But I
think I just just watching the way that Mandannie has
played this is very strategic, you know. I think what
it shows is that he's intelligent. I think he said
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to itself, Okay, we need federal funding, and this is
the person in charge of federal funding. So what I'm
willing to do is say, hey, this is what we need.
Right I'm gonna have a meeting with you. I'm gonna
sit down with you and say this is what New
York requires, because that's what my job requires. My job
requires me to sit down and meet with the people
who have the resources to give to my city because
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that's what I was voted in to do. So I'm
gonna make sure that I do what I'm supposed to do.
I'm gonna have these meetings with you. I'm gonna tell you,
but I'm not going to move from what my line
in the saying is we areware what my platform is.
I'm not compromising my platform. The meeting that I'm having
with you is about how development in the city will
benefit the country. So these are the meetings we're having.
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When you start talking about things that go dis according
to what it is that I ran on, what my
principles are, then I believe that you'll see a different mind, Donnie.
But I think at this point, when you look at
the conversations that he's having, when you look at the dialogue,
he was able to go in there, get the woman
who is removed from Columbia College and kidnapped, get her freed.
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He was able to go in there and actually make
Trump look like he's willing to commit to something that's
happened in New York City. I think at this point
what may and mind Donnie has showed that he is
very strategic. Now I think there's going to be a
pushback because, like you said, I think at some point
Trump is going to say, Okay, I'm doing this and that,
and I need you to do this, and I think
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at that point we're going to see where everything lies.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, that's why I point.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
But that's why I said, I hope, I pray he
knows what he's doing, and I have faith in the
fact that he's thinking what is the best strategy for
what I'm dealing with. All I'm stating is that if
I know anything about Donald Trump, right.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
He doesn't even know what the fuck he's doing. So
how about that, Like he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Even know what he's doing, he can't see past ego
and vendettas right, he also is what it's a groupie.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Trump is the biggest groupie. He loves anybody who has start.
Maybe he must attach yourself to anybody who is loved
by the world. He wants to attach it. And the
reason why he has a vendetta because most of those
people have shunned him, is all life.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But what I'm saying is that those things in my
judgment cloud in my in my opinion, the things I
mentioned cloud is judgment.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But and the thing that he loves more.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Than grouping and all the other things is white supremacy.
That's the thing that he loves more than anything else.
And I'm not sure where that line will come and
what will have to be done to unravel the cluster
hell that he ends up trying to put Mom, Donnie or.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Anybody else in. I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I want to see our mayor do well and succeed,
it's a benefit to us. I think he is a
very he has a lot of integrity. He has integrity,
let's not say a lot of he has integrity. As
you said, He's strategic, he's not stupid, and I think
that he will ultimately show make us proud.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I do believe that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
However, just like he apologized to on I don't know
if you saw, you know, there's a video where he
says that he apologizes for stating that immigrants built this city,
and he kind of just left it at that, right
or not? Kind of that's what he did. And he's like,
you know, he is guilty of not including the original
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contributions of Africans who were bought here, of black people
in this city, right, And so that means that he
is not above mistake. He is not above making a
wrong move or wrong statement. And I'm saying that when
it comes to Trump, that's a dangerous and a very
very slippery slope that you're on. So we're gonna have
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this back and we see because if he didn't meet
with Trump, if he took the position or the pasture
that he's some you know, I'm some radical that refuses
to talk to Trump. What people would do is ultimately
CASTI gay him as being the problem. They would say
he's the problem, and not that Trump is the problem.
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So he has to be able to show I've done
everything that I'm supposed to do and now it's on
him to either be a president with good sense or
to continue with his white supremacist mindset. So that that
just is hot. But I what I am saying, to
go back to the original thing, is that people in
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their minds believe that this is just one president and
it's not that serious.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They have They just don't know. They just don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
They just don't know when somebody is threatening to cancel elections,
to take away your power to even voice your opinion. Again,
when they cancel an election, it's not just presidential. If
you can't vote, you also will not be able to
vote for your legislators in your particular local districts, in
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your local cities. This is very serious, and to me,
that's not a political view. That is dictatorship, and no
one wins under a dictatorship. Maybe the black man who
I'm speaking of and other people who are in his
comments section, it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Was pretty much a fifty to fifty split of views.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Right, maybe those individuals are in the top one percent
and they'll be fine, especially if they're a white man
in the top one percent.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But there's not a distinction being made between black.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Folks and immigrants.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
They are after all of us. So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And I realize that people don't really care what happens
to black women. They actually I'm not saying this, man,
but actually the fact that black women have been pushed
out of the workforce. There's a lot of men and
black men who are like, that's good, Like the bitch
don't need to go to work, no how she thinks
she too damn smart, too whatever. They don't see the
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crisis that I'm telling you as an international issue when
black women don't have money.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, we're just in very peculiar times. Like you said,
there's a lot of men who want women to go
back in the house and cook, and they saying they
not doing enough, they're not domesticated enough. And you know,
putting women in positions of power have destroyed the household,
the black household. So you know, there's this misogynistic, you know,
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view that is not prevalent. You know, I've said it
a few times that they are amplifying the black MAGA voices,
the black conservative voices they're amplifying. They completely taking over
the algorithm. I go on my page and I put
some shit that's totally about us, and you see them
send fifty sixty bots. And I have a guy on
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my page who is following me and he argues with
them because he knows that they're box. He sent me
the whole algorithm. He showed me the metrics, literally showed
me the metrics. He showed me where they sending them from.
Like he he has proven. He's like, this is not
He said, I started studying your page because I was like,
why are they coming to your page like this? Why
(25:30):
there's so many people that don't agree with you, that
don't even fit into your algorithm on your page? And
he said, I went and studied the metrics. I know
where they sending them from. He showed me the farms
they sending them from. He showed me how many they send.
Like there's a real, you know, calculated effort to demean
our voices and to amplify those voices. So that's what
we are. So you definitely gonna see people say, oh,
(25:53):
they don't care black women. That's good for them and
all that, But ninety five percent of us do not.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Agree know that. But I'm just saying there is a sentiment.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I don't know that everybody is speaking out loud who
believes that. I think you would be surprised that there's
less than ninety five percent of men who believe that
women should be in their place. Right. And this is
not political. Again, this is a values thing. This is
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the idea that the more women have become successful and educated,
we are less in need of the man. I'm not
talking racial, I'm just saying in general. So so when
we say over three hundred thousand black women have been
pushed out of work for uce, it does not move
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certain people. They don't understand that the attacks against diversity, equity,
and inclusion was specifically about black women. They don't get
that right, And so again this becomes a political.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
This for some people is just a political view.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And meanwhile, our households are falling apart as a result.
I know for sure, maybe other people don't, but I
know friends, family, and otherwise. Let me just put it
this way. It's not that they don't work hard. It's
not like they lazy. They getting up in the morning
six seven o'clock, going to whatever place doing their job,
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or they had a business that now their business had
to be closed down, a coffee shop, a flower shop.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
A you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
And now at sixty five years old, they're being told
to go learn a different skill to become an electrician
or a plumber, or some feel that you might have
a little bit more longevity in that's what they're being told.
And I see it, We see it. Felicia Butterfield Jones,
who is collecting the data, is seeing women applying for
support in ways that they haven't in the past. All
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of us are feeling it. I feel it right. But
to to some people, that's not that important to them.
What's important to them is to listen, listen to a
liar and figure out where you might be able to
make a few million dollars on crypto or something else,
which we what we see even and that no one's
really talking about this, even with the bitcoin conversation. Well,
(28:13):
guess what, Mss Girthy, the woman who was abducted, Savannah
Girthy's mother was abducted. They those people were pushing for
a bitcoin for six million dollars for a reason because
they know the regulations.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They understand Trump wants.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
To deregulate it as far as you know, as far
as we currently know, until he figures out a whole
bunch of black people made money, I bet you you'll
see something different. But right now, in that top one percent,
it's been his white men who have dominated that particular
feel But those people knew that if you could use bitcoin,
they could get that money and probably disappear. Cash has
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too many tracking systems, but bitcoin would be something that
they would be more successful, not totally probably, but more successful.
So even that is showing you that our systems are
so vulnerable. We are actually dealing with imminent threats all
around us. And I don't think this is a political
view situation. I think it is a values issue and
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that politics are being used to implement strategies that will
harm our communities for decades. Who knows how long it's
going to take us to try to unravel some of
the stuff that has happened. So you know, so that's
how I feel. So let me go to I don't know,
this story of the day feels so insignificant. It's not
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really insignificant. It's actually very significant. But it feels like
what we were just talking about was so heavy and
then you kind of go to this. But for my
thought of the day, I want to talk about this
Hunter College professor last week Until Freedom put out a
statement about the incident that happened where Alison Friedman, she
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is a professor at Hunter and she was on a
I think like.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
A community council meeting.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
A young student was a young black student was saying
that she didn't want her school to be closed. And
this woman didn't know her mic was on on the
zoom and she started saying, you know, black people are
so dumb that you know, they don't even know they're.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
In a bad school.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And if you train them, they will use the back
and they're pretty much going to conform. Right. That was
her statement, And you know, obviously, first of all, the
people on the zoom are like, just so you know,
we can hear you, which is totally irrelevant whether or
not weak near her. That was the wrong reaction to
start with. It's that what you said is racist, but
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you know, hey.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, maybe you in shock. You ain't get there yet.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And then we saw some statements come out from the city,
the chancellor, the superintendent.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Because this student is actually a student in New York.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
City Public school And so their statements they were, Okay,
you know, the woman was put on leave and that's
all Hunter has done at this point.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
She wow, that's I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
And then and then the woman's statement said, you know,
I was talking to my child.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
She was talking to her child.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Trying to teach her child about systemic racism. And she said,
but those aren't my views. Now the gas lighting is
enormous here. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
How could you teach your child about systemic racism and
tell her the most racist shit, use.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Racist tropes against us. And what is scary to me though,
is that she's admitting she was speaking to her child.
So she was teaching her child passing down racist ideology
about black people while a black student was speaking on
the zoom And what it made me think about, especially
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with it being basically the same week as the BAFTA
issue where Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo were you know,
disrespected by BAFTA and BBC Because BBC the network is
the one that had the ability to edit out the
use of the word nword during the show, right they
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had the ability to edit that because guess what.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They edited out, free Palestine. They edited out the F word.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
They edited out stuff, so it's not like they didn't
catch other statements from the same individual who has Turett's
he said, I think he said the F word. It
was a two hour delay, so they edited that part
out right when he said the F word, and somebody
else probably said free Palestine, and they were able to
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address that, but for some reason they did not edit
out the use of the N word. And I'm just
thinking that where during Black History Month these two things
collide and show a picture to America about how disrespected
black people are. What startles me about the Alison Friedman
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issue is that her being on lead is like insult
to injury. Why do I know that I was canceled
because of something somebody else said?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Right, It wasn't what Tamika Mallory said.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They didn't have a record of me saying things that
any particular community felt offended by, and they canceled me,
canceled all my speaking engagements, which ultimately meant fired me.
I lost income as a result of me sitting in
a place and being in relationship with someone who they
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deemed to be afensive to them, right, this was and
I was, and I was punished for the words of
a man that were not in even my words. And
even when I said, well, here's the parts that I
disagreed with of what he said, they told me, no,
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that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, but she can be on leave.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
After having insulted, disrespected, and being outed outright racist towards
this young girl. She needs to be fired. She needs
to be fired. And guess what, every newspaper across the
world put me in it as if I were and
they called me a hate monger, they called me anti Semitic,
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they called me everything because of an association.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
This is the woman's own words that came out of
her mouth, out of her mouth, and she's gonna leave.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
She needs to leave, like for good. You know, it
just doesn't make sense to me. We we constantly, you know,
cape for white supremacy. You know, it's there's no there's
no excuse for what she said. You know, the fact
that she was saying it to her child makes even worse.
Mean that she's poisoning the mind of the next generation.
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You know, a lot of these kids are a lot
more aware of the social climate and social issues, and
you know, they're growing, they're they're trying to eradicate racism.
So to know that you still have people like her
who are poisoning.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Their beth like these young white kids, some of them
are they really are they like they don't you know,
they like this ain't right.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, and they're actually trying to eradicate it in the
fact that you got her still pushing that saying honest,
it's just disgusting. So I hope that the school does
the right thing. You know, I'm going to actually reach
out to the parent and the child and see maybe
we can get them on here to give some thoughts
about what they think. I definitely think Hunters College needs
to go on and fire her, you know, give her
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walking papers, because someone who has the ability, the wherewithal,
and actually the want to poison the mind of youth
that way definitely shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, I mean, you know, and I would say these
two things from my thought of the day. First, Alison
Friedman's child has absolutely been poisoned by their mother's racism.
And imagine how that child feels or what sense of.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Entitlement that child now.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Feels over the black child who was disrespected and traumatized
and traumatized on that zoom call in front of everybody. Right,
this is where that entitlement begins to grow because my
mother basically said you dumb.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So that's one.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
The second thing though, in terms of Hunter College not
firing Alison Friedman immediately, is that we must have a
new sense of grace and I would love to hear
about it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I would love to.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Hear about the grace that is being allowed for people
to make a mistake or to be misunderstood when they
are making statements.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I want to hear it. I would love to know if.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
There's anybody out here who worked for Hunter College and
maybe said free Palestine, or they had a position on
an issue that seemed to be or that have been
deemed controversial, and whether or not they were able to
just keep their job.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I promise you I might be wrong, but I promise.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
You that if you are a committed supporter of the
Palestinian people on Hunter College's campus and you up there
doing saying and being very visible about your support for Palestine,
I bet you there's been some issues.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I bet you I want some.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Please, if you hear this, share it, make sure you
get it out to the whole city so that we
can find out if anyone has been fired at that
school because they made a statement about something that wasn't
even them being racist, but just has been considered a
controversial statement by the college.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I bet you that has happened.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And so if we are providing grace for Alison Friedman,
then let's see how that grace is spread around across
many different fields and across academia in general. I want
to see some of the Jewish brothers and sisters who
you know already when it came to students of Columbia
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at Barnard and other colleges around this country, Free Palestine
is suppose to get you kicked out protesting for the
Palestinian people. Eric Adams sent the police in there to
go beat students down.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Okay, So I want.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
To see all these people, including someone like Eric Adams.
Why are you not using your platform to call for
this woman to be fired because.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's no longer conducive to him, you know, as the mayor.
You know he's still win it. He's still he would
have been like, listen, people have the right to the
views and we can I don't say I would have
let the school do their own investigation. I'm not going
to be involved in it because you know, Colombia has
a hunter, has their own rules, so you know, I'm
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I'm very sure that they'll take care of the property.
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I don't know what he would have said, but I
could tell you this.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
He wouldn't have did ship.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I could tell you this.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I do know that this is the same man who
defended Daniel Penny after he strangled Jordan nearly to death
on the train, and so I have absolutely no confidence.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And as I said, I.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Want to see the various communities who have participated in
the canceling of anybody who has gone against the state
of Israel or the genocide that has taking place in
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or against the Palestinian people. I want to know, is
there a major movement to have this woman fired for
what she did to that young black girl and to
black people in general. That's the question that I had
because I don't see it. I don't see they as
it related to me. Again, a person who was associated
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with somebody they don't like. Okay, there was thought pieces,
there was op eds, there was campaigns to have me
kicked out, fired, expelled, black balled, and yet this woman
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could be on leave for what she did to a child,
and a and a and a TV network that muted
all kinds of things, edited, all kinds of things, left
the word the N word towards two black men, and.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
The and the and the award show people did not
even immediately rush.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
To them to say, We're so sorry that this happened.
All of this is going on, I'm looking for the
op eds and not from the same people. I'm looking
and I'm not talking about from the the you know,
the same people right who will always do it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Rabbi Rabbi Baer Ellman and Rabbi Sharing Clime. I'm not
talking about them.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I'm talking about the folks who was who are they
have a litmus test for what.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Black people can and cannot do?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And where is the ADL they supposed to be such
supporters of, uh, they're supposed to be in relationship, these
these amazing bonds with black people. I'm gonna go see
maybe they've done it. I can't say I didn't look,
but I want to see whether or not. The ad
L has put out a statement calling for Allison Friedman
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to be fired. For what she did to that young
girl and to black people, particularly during Black History months.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Won't find it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I wonder where Apak is.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You won't find it.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Getting put money up to make sure that black people
don't win election.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
That's what they don't care about. It's not that they
how black people. It's certain kinds of black people.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
They get the certain kinds in office, so you know
they they ain't got time focused.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
On that anyway. That's what I have to say.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I pray they able to edit this because Babe, I
had so much on my mind, but you know, I'm
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I get it because I don't get it, you know,
and and that just brings me to my I don't
get it for today. You know, I had so many
different things. As you know, I can always go in
on Trump because I can going on this country. But
I was really as you talked about this racism thing,
this thing came up on my page that I've decided
to post today. And it was a lady in her
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car and she's sitting in her car and the cop
pulls her over and he asks her, you know, for
a license, and say, hey, what are you doing here?
So she said, well, I was just dropping my son off.
He said, well, I've seen you pass something and she's like, yeah,
I passed in his cup. You know. He's I drove
back around the block because I'm tired of him leaving
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his shit my car. He left his coffee cover in
my car, and I was like, get your shit out
of my car. So he's like, sure, you're not. You know,
there's not nothing illegal in the car. She's like, what
are you talking about illegal? I'm passing a cup. Like
what do you want to search the car? He's like, wow,
if you allow me to. She's like, well, what do
you think I was passing to him? Now it's a
black lady, mind you, and it's a white man. She's
driving to a son's building. He comes out, gives her
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a cup. He don't stop him, he don't do it.
He just comes over to her and she says, so,
what do you think there's some type of trans They said,
that's what it looked like to me. He's like trans
that what do you I just told you I was
giving him a cup. Now this man is so hell
bent on this, and the lady literally has the whole conversation.
He's just so help bent till we ask her, do
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you have crack in the car? Like to me, right
like he didn't say, he asked her do you have drugs?
And then he went to crack. And we know the
the racial connotation of crack. We know where the communities
that crack come from, We know the p people that
they have said use crack. We know the kind of people.
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And for you to look at this woman and just
assume that she would have or assume that there's a
possibility that she would have crack in her car, to me,
it was just so disrespectful. He was demeaning. It was disrespectful,
it was derogatory, and she took it as such, and
she she she got real loud and like, well, I'm
(45:25):
a business owner, I'm a fifty five year woman, Like,
I don't have no crack, I'm no drug. I don't
have nothing in my car. Why because I'm black And
you see me talking to a black handed black man
something that I told you as a cup, you assume
that there's drug and crack in here. You didn't just
say drugs, but crack, Like to me, that's like that's
the lowest form of drug, like that's where you the
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poverty drug and you just assumed that this black lady
was getting crack from somebody that was her son, Like you,
you completely misread and not only did you misread what happened,
you completely pegged her and disrespected her. Right now, you
you didn't just misread that the fact that he was
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giving a cup, she was giving her son a cup,
because that's what's happening. But you you want a step
lower to assume that there might be cracked in a
woman's car, Like just when I heard the man ask
a lady was cracked, like, I was so confused, and
I know had he seen a white boy wolf from
building a white woman that age in her car that
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he wouldn't ask him that I'm one hundred percent short.
And he goes into, oh, you making a racist. It
could have been a Mexican. First thing, he said, it
could have been a Mexican. It could and you still
going into the same disparaging viewpoints about racial people, about
different races, about different people that's not white. You went
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from a black person to a Mexican and didn't last
oh it could have been white green. No, we were
talking about the reality you know, and just watching the
fact that that lady had to go through that really
just just made it grinded my gears. As we said,
you know, I was really like pissed off, and I'm like, damn,
why why still in twenty twenty six do we have
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to be profiled and degraded? You know, Like just imagine
that lady says she's a business owner. She probably never
been in any trouble or nothing. She probably is just
a regular citizen, done everything right to get pulled over
by a white man and asked her that she have
cracked crack, Like just just think about that. She's like,
(47:33):
what the fuck are you talking about? People don't even
use crack no more. I didn't even but you you've
seen this black woman and you paired her with crack
like that?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like, well, I mean, I think that one is called
stopping for us. It's an actual policy choice by the
police department and the mayor. I don't know what town
is in. I saw the video on your page, and
I didn't watch it to finish, so I don't know
exactly what took place, but it's a policy decision to
stopping for certain people in certain communities and to profile
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them based upon whatever may be happening. Maybe it's a
high crack area, maybe it's not. I don't know, But
what I will say is that you know, there are
many people who are probably experiencing the same type of
racial profiling, but there's no video to show it, and
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that particular department has made a decision, again a policy
decision that whether you were older, younger, oh, professional or not,
you steal a nigga. So this is what we're dealing
with in society, and it's pretty sad, you know.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Like I said, I saw it in passing.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
I think another thing is important is do not ever
offer to have your car searched. If they want to
search it, they will have to bring it up and
have just cause it's supposed to be due process, even
on the side of the road. But do not ever
offer them to search your vehicle. And you know, because
they plant things and they lie, and it's it's you know,
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all of that, so you know you never want to
do that. They need to have a reason for doing so,
and it needs to be where it can get in
a report, and it could all make sense, especially obviously
obviously in your favor.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And you know, I wonder if the police department is going.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
To be like, Wow, this stop is a pure example
of why our policies are wrong. Let's see, let's see
if this particular stop makes that department say we have
to do things different.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah. And I just feel sorry for that woman because
you could just tell that there's a level of disrespect
that she felt and she couldn't And I think that's
why she was like, you want to search the car,
because it's like her mind, she's like, what are you
talking about. She's you know, she's like, oh, I'm just
giving my son a cup. You know, in her mind,
she's not even thinking that this is even serious.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
No, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
But this speaks to what we always say about what
it was that show forty eight hours when.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I'd be like, are they lawyers anywhere?
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:22):
The first forty eight like hello, get the lawyer. I'm
yelling at the TV. Get the lawyer, because exactly, they
will violate. And it's just that split second where they
ask you a question, and by the time they ask
you one or two questions, and you think, and this
has got to be a joke, because.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I don't I don't even know what you're talking. Guess
what happens.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Before you know it, you done answered something, you done
started down a track that could put you in prison
for a long time or at least coldjam you up.
So you have to be very very mindful that you're
never talking to your friend.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
When you're talking talking to law enforcement, you're not.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Unfortunately, I hate to say that because I got friends
who are cops who will.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Be like, damn, really like, I ain't that you work
for them. People. The color is not black, it's not white.
The color is blue.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
And so even your own friends, when you're talking to them,
what they say, it's like doing business. When you're doing
business with people, even if it's a friend of yours,
do business. When you finish business after seven o'clock or
on the weekend or the holiday.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Function, then you can let your hair down.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
But when we're sitting at this table doing this business,
I have to realize what side of the table you're
on and what side of the table I'm on.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
And there's never no.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Matter how friendly it is, don't even how much they
cue and you like them and they speak to you
nicely and give you respect, they still work for a
system that is not designed to support, help or protect us,
and so you never offer them to search your vehicle.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
I'm not judging her. Her understand exactly why she did.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
It's definitely just a it's a teachable teachable you never
do that.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
She learns from it, but not just her, because we
all learned from it. She knows.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
But also first forty eight, when they sitting there and
they like, what you mean, I was at my mom house.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Don't you tell me say nothing about.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Your Yeah, fucked up right, Yeah, we went back and
seen you want that exactly, and you was like, damn, okay,
I went to my mom house after this sord but
that's not what you said. Then they sat.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
You're a liar.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
You're a liar, and they tripped you up and showing
this film in court because you didn't just didn't shut up.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
And get there with the lawyer. The lawyer put.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Your whole situation. I want to end it, but you know,
in the fact that I wore this shirt, wore this shirt,
you know, I just want to speak to the times
that we're in, you know, And I'm just praying for everybody,
you know, I'm praying for the people who lost their
lives no matter.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Where you fifty people at a hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
People at a school in Iran was bombed and it
was heard it was about one hundred and fifteen girls
that were killed, and.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
They love killing kids kids. Is not as.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
It's just it's really, it's really to me, it's just
unreal that we have an administration the president who who
ran on no new wars and who ran on being
the peace and always wants the Nobel Peace Prize, that
they're waging wars daily that legal wards not getting any
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you know, confirmation and anything from Congress.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
It's just and your cause was so just.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
We were so just it wouldn't be hard for you
to do. So, you know, we're bombing the same country
that they said that they knocked out all of their
nuclear plants, totally obliterated everything. In June, they came back
and said that they had to bomb him because they
were threatned to building nuclear bombs again. So it's nothing
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that we hear in America is true, you know, and
it's sad that we live in a place like that.
You know, I just want you to be be aware. Sure,
there are people who did not like the leader, and
I ran sure he was a dictator. I don't know
all the things. I only know what America shows us.
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And sure they painted him to be this dictator who
killed and murdered his people, who funded terrorists, who did
all these things. And if that's who he was, then
you know, whatever God had for himly had for him.
But to believe that there's a country of ninety million
people and all of them are happy that they've killed
(54:52):
their leader, and when they show these propaganda on TV
and people waving, and some of those people actually would
actually I feel that way. But I've seen so many
videos of hundreds of thousands of people who are sad,
who are not happy, who are not happy with America.
And I want you to understand that we have a
president who is putting Americans at risks, because as you
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walk around in this bubble thinking that the ship that
we're doing in this country to other countries, the way
we bombing, the way that we're.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
We're supporting, paying for genocide, paying.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
For genocide, that other countries are not looking at us
saying that America is the enemy. See, we live in
this bubble because they want you to believe this ship.
You go to Fox News, They're gonna keep playing this
and they're gonna see America's doing this and we're we're
the we're the good guys, and we this and all
of this shit. And then you we asked about terrorists,
and you know, terrorists are created because America is doing
(55:50):
shit to other countries. That's what creates when when you're
a little kid and you've seen America bomb your country
and you're a little kid and you seen your daughters
and your sister get blown in half sitting in front
of your face, it creates those type of things. So
I just want you to be aware. Do not be
you know, misled into thinking that the shit that's going
(56:11):
on here and the shit that we're doing to other
countries is okay, and they're just happy that we're just
obliterating and killing their countries and taking their resources and
kidnapping their leaders and all this shit. It's not okay,
And don't live in a bubble to think it is.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
These are not political views.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
These are not political These are real views. Do more
research than Fox News in your favorite blog site that
has you know, the political talking head with the black
conservative voice that tells you, yeah, these people are happy.
You know, Trump is the man and there's a black
dude that told me Trump was the first black president.
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I said, I'm gonna go on and unplugged for a
little while. And with that said, we've come to the
end of another episode of the TMI Show. Make sure
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be right, Tamika d marriage is not gonna always be wrong,
but we will both always and I mean always be authentic.
Love you peace. That's how we
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