February 1, 2022 • 48 mins
USA! USA! USA! Filibust out your bugles, because this film is a doozy of political idealism. Wiretap in as Tossed Popcorn checks and balances the increasingly-hotter-and-more-age-appropriate-with-every-film-on-this-list Jimmy Stewart. The people most confused by the film this week were: Joe Manchin & Kyrsten Sinema.
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Tossed Popcorn is a production of I Heart Radio Da Hi,
I'm Leanna Holston and I'm Sena Jacob and all allow
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Today we're watching Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Liberty is
Too Precious a thing to be buried in books and
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number twenty six on the A f I List. Warning
there will be spoilers about this American film. US You
was one time I was in line for the Pirates
of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland and it broke and
so it was down for a long time and everybody
and I was waiting, And when it finally got up
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and running again, I'm so excited that I started going
us and then the whole line did it with me.
I think it was my most American like moment. That's
built a beautiful and very hilarious story. I love it.
Had you seen this movie before? No? Oh, really not
at all. I felt like maybe you had had you know,
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but I thought, because you know Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, I
actually I have not seen it and I didn't know anything.
Oh my god. Great. Okay, well let's listen to each
other's predictions of what we thought this movie was gonna be. Okay,
we'll do my prediction first. Hi, Leanna, your friend Sienna. Here,
I'm about to watch a film called Mr Smith Goes
to Washington. Somehow I know that this is a Jimmy
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Stewart movie. Though I may pray that it's Washington State,
I know in my heart that it's the district of Columbia. Nice.
So probably he's gonna do something with politics. Maybe he'll go,
um so Congress. I'm very Congress. All right, fingers crossed,
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and I will take y l Mary Congress. I'm also
so stupid as a human being and adult that when
I found out that there were senators in this movie,
I was like, yes, good job, Sienna. Sienna, here's my
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prediction from what I thought Mr Smith Goes to Washington
would be. Okay, And I'm seeing two recordings here, so
I'll start with the first one. Good morning, Sienna. This
is Leanna. I'm about to watch Mr Smith goes to Washington.
There he goes. I don't know anything about this film.
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It's from the thirties, I think, and my guess is
a white man is going to go to our nation's
capital and affect change, affect change effect, like the verb effect.
I also imagine, you know, he's going to like inspire
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Congress to do the right thing, which is to say,
this movie is a work of fiction. I love you
by Okay, I'm literally googling it. It's effect change with
an e. I've never quite seen the face speaking right now.
It's like a face of this can't be But also
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I'm about to pretend to be asleep. Is this the
one fucking time that effect is a verb? It's like
the only time that's so politics of it flip flop
like that. Yeah, Okay. This nextpert is from when I
pulled up the film to watch it. Okay, update, Oh
my god, it's Jimmy Stewart Martlin, but from oh this
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movie might be hot? Okay, incredible? Was it hot for you?
In some ways? He so tall the longest he's been
I think. How would you summarize the film, Mr Smith?
Goes to Washington and Brackett's district of Columbia quickly. I
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don't need to look up the name of a woman
in the film, Clarissa Saunders. Saunders played by Jean Arthur
Bernie's saunder us remarked, man's a summary of Mr. Smith
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goes to Washington after Jefferson Smith, played by a man
by the same initials, Jimmy Stewart is serendipitously appointed to
the Senate. He arrives to the corrupt and callous political
landscape of Washington, d C. Bearing only his American id
eels and a sincere sense of integrity. He's also assisted
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greatly by a woman, his secretary, Saunders, who becomes his
love interest. Anything more to say, he loves nature, there's
a damn issue so much more. The other senator from
his same state is kind of a mentor to him.
But that senator is in the pocket of a very
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wealthy man who is buying up land for a dam
in in order to get Jimmy off of his back
and not voting on anything. The senators like, just write
your own bill, and Jimmy's like, okay, and then he
writes it, but it's for an area of land that
ends up being that same area where the damn is
being built. So the main conflict is between Jimmy and
the other senator from his state, whose name is of
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course Joe. In the end, the way that Jimmy saves
the day as he's filibusters the vote to remove him
from the Senate so that his bill could get past
and he can keep being a senator. Right, I feel
like I wrapped that up and all that sudden it
was corrupt. We don't always say every bat of the movie,
we have to right now because a lot of that
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is in my historical context. Leona, I am fascinated to
hear some historical context about this film. Thank you. I
welcome to the historical context for high Mr Smith goes
to Washington, which was really you Gotta do it All
British release based on an unpublished story which was called
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The Gentleman from Montana by Lewis R. Foster, and that
story was loosely based on the life of Montana U
S Senator Burton Wheeler, who was investigating the Warren Harding
administration for something. So that's like the parallel of like corruption,
small boy going up against big government. The film's world
premiere was at Constitution Hall in Washington, d C. And
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it played to actual U S senators and representatives, including
hey Ry S. Truman heard of him. Truman said of
the film, quote, it makes asses out of all senators
who are not crooks, but it also shows up the
correspondence in their true drunken light too. Senate Majority Leader
Alban Berkley. These people's names are so funny on the
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film said it showed the Senate at the biggest aggregation
of nincompoops on record. When it premiered, a lot of
d C press and politicians called for it to be banned,
that it was anti American and communist. This isn't thirty nine,
So again like communism bug in the US. That's so embarrassing.
Though it's so embarrassing for them, they're like, you made
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us look stupid. You're a communist. The other thing is
like it was banned in Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and
Franco's Spain. So like, if the fascists are banning it,
maybe like you shouldn't. This is fun. It's not because
it's about Nazis, but it's interesting, which to me is fun.
The final English language film that was shown in cinemas
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in France in ninety two before the Nazi ordered band
was imposed was this movie. And there was one cinema
that played it like constantly for thirty days straight on
a luke because it's about democracy. God, this is a
really interesting time in America, which is a perfect segue
into me talking about this time in America ninety nine America.
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This movie premiere in October of that year, and that
is the same year that the Movie's Gone with the
Wind and the Wizard of Oz came out. WHOA I know,
isn't that crazy? Okay? Nine nine more than twenty thousand
people attended a Nazi rally at Madison Square Gardens in
February of that year. So Nazism was popular in the US,
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but it was still two years before the US was
going to officially enter World War two. Nine is when
Germany marched into Poland. It's the year that World War
two started, except not on the U S S. And
also in nineteen thirty nine, the US denied permission to
the s S St. Louis to land in Florida, and
that is the boat that was carrying nine d and
seven Jewish refugees that had to then turn around and
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go back to Europe, and then a lot of those
passengers ended up dying in prison camps during the Holocaust.
So that's that was like the u S landscape at
the time, and now why we should abolish the filibuster.
A lot of people believe that this movie specifically played
a role in preserving the filibuster because of how iconically
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it portrays it and it romanticizes it so much and
makes it seem so heroic and good and cool. Wow,
that's that just makes a lot of sense. This is
like a way that they're using this policy to be
like white man us, you just work hard, blew yourself
up by your bootstraps, baby. And a lot of schools
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use this film to teach about what the filibuster is
because the filibuster is so weird and like hard to understand,
but this movie is a good representation of like ideally
it could be. But what's crazy is that even at
the time of the movie's release, the filibuster had a
history of blocking, specifically civil rights legislation, because the seven
Southern Senators successfully filibustered anti lynching legislation, which is crazy, insane.
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The like most famous filibuster in US history was in
nineteen fifty seven, when strom Thurmond spoke for twenty four
hours and eighteen minutes in an attempt to block that
year's landmark civil rights legislation, which passed. Anyway, I know
that God's also like, the filibuster is not like a
heroic thing in the way that this movie paints it
to be. Ben Mankowitz, who's the host of Turner Classic Movies,
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has said of this film, quote, Jimmy Stewart takes a
stand against the abuse of power and injustice. And yet
the signature filibuster in history, the strong Therman, was to
protect abuse of power and stand for injustice. And quote basically,
the filibuster has almost always been used in US history
and still is to uphold white supremacy in the country.
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And that is a big reason to get rid of
it today. Also, all that a senator has to do
in order to filibuster something is send an email. Oh
my god, you don't have to stand up and talk
at all. Now. What you have to do is like
threatened to filibuster. And what it does is it makes
any bill instead of requiring a simple majority, which is
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the simple majority is fifty one votes out of the
hundred in the U. S. Senate, instead of requiring fifty
one if you threatened to the filibuster, and thus filibuster
these days, it ups the required votes to sixty. And
the reason that nothing is getting done in the Senate
right now is because there are fifty Democrats and fifty Republicans,
and the Democrats have the tie break with Vice President Harris,
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but that's only votes, so we could get a simple
majority on bills, but because people keep filibustering ship, we
can never get anything past because no sixty senators are
going to vote for the same thing these days, because
we're so polarized as a country. The filibuster is a
Senate rule. It's not even a lot. So senators could
just get rid of it, like they can change that
rule in the Senate if they want to, and could
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have except for two Democratics who are currently standing in
the way of it, which is Joe Manchin and Christen Cinema.
It's cute. So you just feel insane in this country
because the people in power are like, if you want change,
go vote, and then you go vote for those people
and They're like, oh, no, we're not going to change
that though. No, we need to compromise. We can, we
should listen to the other side. It's like the other
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side is Nazis. That's why we voted to stop the nuts. Right.
The issue with the filibuster these days, to distill it down,
is that right now, one senator who does not represent
the majority of American opinion or need can block passage
of things ranging from the Voting Rights Act to economic
and climate justice legislation, Like huge improvements could be made
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in this country if one little asshole from one little
state didn't have the power to filibuster legislation in the U. S. Senate.
It's just like the worst family member at Thanksgiving, it
just gets to decide, gets the storm off, gets to
you know, like the least mature person in the room
gets to decide that you don't get to, you know,
go to dessert. Now, the filibuster, I feel like it's
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the highest steaks, like killing the vibe totally that you
could do so to sum up, abolish the filibuster, because
that way the US government could actually help the US people. Crazy, right,
that was great, thank you, thank you all right, Well,
I'm so glad that your mom knows things. Yes, thank
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you to my lawyer mom. I'm an American studies major,
but I am a shameful person. I am. I'm a disgrace.
My mom literally worked for the a c LU, like
she knows specifically about civil liberty. So still there is
not an expectation that you would have the same of understanding. Leanna,
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what do you think of a film? Can I just Okay,
so we have our phone notes to go over, but
can I just say my take? Is this Sienna segment?
Can I just say? Can I just say this movie
was completely unsurprising except for like three things which were
incredibly surprising. Okay. The hat scene where he keeps dropping
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the hat. Okay, it just surprised me cinematically, it was
like it was very different, right, it was very different. Yeah,
you're not that close to any other item in the film.
The scene where he punched everybody in the face. I
felt so blessed by that scene. It was the funniest thing.
It was so unhinged. That was weird. And the children
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getting obliterated. Okay, Sienna, it is time for you to
look at my phone notes, because every note that is
highlighted in orange is about the Boys film. Okay, great, So,
I mean, it is indescribable how many boys young boys
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are in this film. It starts out and you're like,
that's a lot of boys, and then to the end
of it and you were like, that was a lot
of boys. It was way more boys than I even
would have thought when there were originally a lot of boys.
And it's like the number of boys is like it
makes sense at the beginning because he's the leader of
not the Boy the Boy Rangers, and so you're like, Okay,
there's gonna be a bunch of boys in this first scene,
and then we're not going to have to see a
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lot of boys for the next hour and a half,
exactly in every city, in every building. Also, his whole
platform was kind of just bullying boys. The whole fucking
thing that he filibusters for is to build a camp
for boys. That's where I was like, this movie is stupid.
Like if it were today, the thing that they would
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be filibustering four is like, maybe stop shooting kids in
high schools. And it wouldn't work because the senators wouldn't
change their minds, because the n r A would still
be paying them through the nose. Yeah, unfortunately, probably filibuster
for the other side. That is where I was like, oh, yeah, wait,
he's a year because he built a camp for boys.
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No mention of race, of course, no mention of he's
like of all creeds. And I was like, gone with
the wind came out the actual like the pages, the
interns in this movie are like nine years old, young
boys scuttling around, and then for some reason there's like
a hundred boys sitting in the gallery of the Senate,
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which again made sense the first time when you're like, Okay,
he's getting here and we're excited because he's the guy
who's like in charge of the boys they were there
for like like do they have school? I was, I
guess not in the past. Like I guess a boy
could be actually anywhere any given time in the cities
in the past, a boy could be anywhere. That's why
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I was so scary. Yeah, I was thinking too, it's
like these Pages who were in this role, like a
lot now people in those roles are doing it to
further their career. I guess at the time it was
just child labor, right, it was just like make a
boy doing who's whose white son. Hope we're going to
take an ad break, but don't worry. This is gonna
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take way less time than it takes for a bill
to become a lot. The first now you bolded someone
in the credits is named baby Dumpling, Leanna. The very
first thing I noticed in this film, and I highlighted
this because I thought, I bet a lot of people
have seen this film a lot of times and have
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feelings on this film and have never noticed that one
of the boys was named baby Dumpling. Oh my god,
And then you've written this is going to be impossible
for me to watch. I felt the same way. I
wrote something that was like, there's no I'm gonna be
able to understand this movie because there's everybody in it
is the same. Okay, Leanna says, Fox's sake, all these
children kill me. Okay because when we first meet the children,
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by the way in the movie, this is one of
the first The first guy who had to appoint a
new senator, who I guess was the governor of the state.
I didn't know what he's who he was, didn't He
was very, very very stressed by who to choose because
the senator had died, and so they have to replace
the senator with somebody, and so he had dinner with
his hundreds of children and the biggest tureen of soup, Tureen, Tarine.
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Is that the big the big tureen holding the soup.
You know, a tureen, huge tureen of soup. Leona says Sienna.
I'm not kidding. I almost turned this movie off. Every
time there was a child on screen. I was more
surprised than the last. And I almost didn't make it
through the first one because it was so many boys
doing acting. They were they were talking for so long,
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they were acting hard. They were also all talking about
politics and like their ideas about who they that should
go for. You said, how are they saying so many
names but none of them are Smith? Oh yeah, For
the first like ten minutes of the movie, it felt
like it was probably more like three minutes. They were
just reading around politician. How did you know to listen
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for Smith? Mr Smith goes to Washington. Oh my god,
the titular Smith. I am appalled at myself, but yeah,
they do. They say so many names at the beginning,
and so many of them started with ja. I know,
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they were like Joe Shimmy and George. Well that's but
you know, they're all like j S names and trading
them around. So it's so much by the way, the
big bad guy he like doesn't have a mustache, but
he does. I actually really get what you mean by Also,
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something important worth noting is just that this movie is
so much like all the other movies. It's It's a
Wonderful Life. Earlier years, it's and Frank Kapra did It's
a Wonderful Life, and the same thing, it's Politics edition,
where they're like this guy, he is the best exactly.
I'm just quickly very glad to see that. You also
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wrote Jimmy Stewart is so hot. He's really hot in
this movie. He is. He's so so age appropriate for
the women. I'd actually like to know because he just
plays some a few different energies, and I'd like to
know what you found really hot. When he first sits
at his desk in the Senate Chamber for the first time,
and he doesn't know what to do with his hands,
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so he tries out a few different little desk poses,
and then when he collapses at the end, Oh my,
you were like that was very hot. He collapsed. It's
hard to get more haunted than passing away after talking
for like twenty hours straight. Yeah, his voice, he was quieter,
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he was reading, and he was so haunted by that point.
When was he hot for you? This is what I
was curious about because that's sort of similar with his
hands on the desk. But I just found him so
cute being so nervous, and this one like when when
are you're saying, You're saying cute rather than hot? Well,
very very hot, But I don't want to say it
was really hot that he was nervous. That feels like weird.
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That feels problematic, like when guys are like, oh, she's
so pretty much she cries. Shout out to all my
residents when we were watching The Bachelor, you know, they
were like, yeah, it looks really good crying. I learned
so much. It's really good. Yeah, he's like getting on
the phone, all nervous, so cute. It was so unappealing
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to me, just like I think for me, that's because
Clarissa Saunders was watching him, like get nervous about this
woman that he doesn't know and just thinks she's hot.
And I have seen that up close too many a time,
So I was like, there was a lot of annoyingness
around that, around the the sort of Clarissa jealousy storyline
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that we say I hated that they made her fall
in love with him. Really, I was so mad. I
was so mad because I was like, you know what,
I figured it out. This movie is just us politics
ted Lasso, where everybody's like, you can't help but to
root for him. Once you get to know him, you
just can't help but to like him the best. This
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guy is the best. The dynamic between the two main characters,
the man and the woman, never gets romantic, and that's
what makes it so good is that it doesn't, because
the coach is that it always does. And this woman
would not have fallen for this man. He was like
this guy from nowhere near her. She had to explain
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constitutional law to him. All she wanted was to get
a new fall wardrobe and quit her job. No, she
was not looking for love as the writer's purported her
to be. Mm hmmm, I do not believe it. Also,
if you have to walk a man through a twenty
four hour filibuster, you're not gonna want to bone him
after that. Some people would, would you um, not specifically,
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but I do see why this is something really unappealing
to you and why there's that whole trope of like
I want to fix him, and men have this with
women as well, and people have this with each other
in general, Like lots of people have that dynamic where
they're like, oh, I just want to help and it's
so fun watching them get better and like need me,
need me. So it totally made sense to me why
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she liked him. Also, he's really hot, but it is
it was annoying for sure, for sure, And we also
watch her go through like stages of settling when she's like,
I'm jealous, he doesn't want me, so I'm gonna marry
my journalist friend. Was he the uncle uncle Uncle Billy
crow Boy from It's a Wonderful He was. There were
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tons of It's a Wonderful lish so many years. I
know they're like contemporaries in this movie. Do you want
to hear a crazy casting thing? Is the other senator
Joe the rival to the Silver Night? That's what I
kept calling him because they called him that one time.
We've seen him before. Okay, I don't know this. He
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played your favorite my least favorite character in Casablanca, the
police chiefs no Way, which is insane. He looks so
much older in this movie, which came out three years before.
She's also, in my mind, a completely different shape. That's
because he wears a hat and maybe a wig in
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this one, or at least very white hair. It's mainly
the hat in the uniform. He's like the board of
a recktail. He's just such a specific shape in both
these movies. To me, he yes, no way, wow. Oh
Jimmy Stewart having secretly big anger issues, yeah, which we
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see when he punches every journalist. Don't talk about it,
that what's talking about? Because he's come to Washington. He's
this like do wide boy with huge patriotic ideals of
what America is, and he's very incorrect about it. And
then the reporters get him and they do this profile
on him that's very, very blown out of proportion. And
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when he hears about it and he's made fun of
in the Senate, he leaves and finds every reporter in
Washington and punches each of them once so fun. He
stops them in the in the sidewalk and he winds
up like they know they're about to get punched. They
don't do anything to avoid it. They're all holding a
newspaper to demonstrate that their journalists. It's one of them
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says the line that guy Smith's punching everybody he meets,
and I'm like, this is really happening. What are you
talking about? What funny He's going and punching everybody square
in the face one time, and we don't capture that
energy from him ever again in the film. It's very anachronistic.
It's so weird, so weird. Should we talk about when
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they get obliterated? Yeah? So so Jimmy start is filibus,
String up a Storm and the big bad guy heart
who James Jim Taylor. James Taylor runs all the newspapers
in in Jimmy Stewart's home state, and so he's not
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allowing any of those newspapers to run any of what
Jimmy Stewart is saying. So nobody in his home states
hearing him, and the Snoody's rallying for his cause until
Clarissa Saunders remembers that Jimmy owns the newspaper and I
was like, this is late time and it's run completely
by boys and the mom from It's a Wonderful Life.
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So they call them up. They're like, write down everything
we're saying, super quick, and type it all up and
print it up immediately. And so the boys literally do
a printing press montage, which is extraordinarily indescribably news. Ees,
the boys, I'll print the newspapers and start distributing them.
And then fully grown men are sent by Taylor too,
like physically demolished. So the boys and the main scene
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that we see of them like actually taking them out
because you know, they're yelling at them as these boys
go around being like we got the boy times get
it well, it's hot, we're the only ones printing anything. True. Well,
the scene where we really see it happened, Like, guys,
this movie is so predictable except for like just a
few just seconds of insane footage. This one one of
the little boys is driving a car, like a very
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small boy sized car. It's one of the children. There's
no way he was of age. I think this was
just the past. But like again, a boy could be
anywhere a license, a license was just if you found
a car. A boy could be in a car, And
this big in my mind, it's like a double decker. No,
it's it's just a man sized car next to a
boy sized car. So it's very large, taller car full
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of men is driving next to them and they're you know,
like shaking their fits, and then they sort of veer
and they veer into the little boy vehicle crash the car,
implying that they killed them. But it don't see that.
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You just see a woman calling another woman and being
like so much damage it cuts, And then the mom
is like they're all getting hurt, Like wait, this is
like the punch scene where you're like, did they actually
get hurt. It's a plot point that then Clarissa Saunders
needs to go be like, hey, we need to stop
this because all the little boys around town are getting obliterated.
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My favorite, the one that I actually really laughed aloud at.
This is early in the Obliteration Antaj. One man walks
into the boy printing press room. Then the boy who
answers the door, it's like what's up, Mr? And the
man punches the boy and it's so insane. But again,
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it's like in a montage here, there's not time to
process any of what's happening. This was such a specific
time in filmmaking that allowed these things to happen. Yeah,
had certain standards, but not all of them, you know,
so it's failing. A big question that I had. How
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was saying mostly pus legal in they say plus in
this movie. Oh my god, there were three newspaper montages
in this film. This is too many montages in a
two hour film. This movie wasn't paste right. I don't
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think this movie was good. One thing I also wrote
was this is from before they figured out how to
end movies, which we've talked about. This is another one
where they end at the very high moment, Like I
think I actually wrote, like, there's one minute for this
film to end. There's one minute until it ends. I
don't know what's gonna happen because he was like he
like just woken up from fainting with like two and
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a half minutes left. You're like, what's going to happen
a lot? Yeah, so much. And it ends with his
office dad, his co senator, Yeah, who somehow has a gun.
I know. He runs out and shoots ascance. Yeah, gets
everyone's attention. Yeah, he runs back in, which is a
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very funny way. Like I get that. It's like the
less destructive way of gathering rooms like but to leave
and break something and then come back anyway, comes back
in and he's like, I'm not fit to be a senator.
It's like, you're right, you got me, you got me,
and then it ends and that's the end. There's no like,
we don't actually see Jimmy and Saunders connect. Ever, she
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just writes to him via the Constitution she's in love
with him, and has that delivered to the Senate floor.
They don't even gets a kiss, even though there was
that moment where he's like looking at her when she's
building him up in front of and he's like, I
can't testify. I have to go to the Lincoln Memorial. Yes,
which he's obsessed with. By the way, you think that
he really believes in American ideals, but when you look
(31:14):
at it closer, he's just obsessed with the Lincoln Memorial.
They're like, why no, we have to compromise, and he's like,
but have you been to the Lincoln Memorial? Sorry, everyone,
we gotta go punch some reporters in the face. We'll
be right back. I do get how at the time,
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if this was the first the first West Wing, the
first vat Yes, the first calling out Congress for being corrupt.
That's really cool. Sure, that's really cool, and we get it.
We do get it now, Leona, would you like to
move on to badges and trages please, and thank you?
I would love to. This is our segment Badges and Tratches,
in which we a war the film badges for things
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that we felt us yea about, and tragices for things
we felt us nay about. I got a badge for
a film that starts with everyone saying hello, I have
a badge for a man having trouble getting out of
a phone booth that moment, wasn't that seems like a
(32:23):
blooper badge for saying someone's name? And then the whole
room shouts no, when was that? When they announced which
senator they're gonna appoint and it's they're originally going for
just some guy who's going to vote whatever way he's
told to, and they announced it to this room of
like delegates or whatever. In the whole room is like, no,
(32:45):
that guy, No, okay. I got a badge for that
reporter who seemed to be from the Flirty Times eating
a donut in a funky hat. Um. I have a
badge for this reporter eating a donut slash. A lot
of doughnuts in this film were there more? Almost every
character eats a donut no way. You know what's funny
(33:06):
is I didn't notice them specifically, but when she was
eating that donut, I thought it looked completely natural. Within
the world. It was like a bunch of male reporters
and then the one female reporter. All she asked is
do you think any girls are cute? Which is why
I assumed she must be from the flirting content. There's
the Boy Times and the Flirty Times, and then there's
the men's newspapers. I've got a badge for. Okay, a
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woman being referred to primarily by her last name kind
of the closest thing we have to feminism. We will
never close the wage gap, but we will get closer
by calling women by their last name. He had to.
It wasn't ntil like halfway through the film that we
found out her name is Clarissa and everyone who'd just
been calling her sausage. I can't remember Saunders, Saunders. Everyone
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has been calling her? Would it be sausage? Everyone had
just been calling her Saunders. Badge for when Saunders says,
I wasn't given a brain just to tell a boy
ranger what time it is. I loved her so much. Yes,
she was awesome. She was great. This was actually like
a really good woman character. Yeah. I was gonna say,
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it's the falling in love part and the falling in love.
I see like it sucked her. I see what you're saying.
But she played it well, Like this was a good
role she did, and she did a good job. I
gotta bade to the line. I gotta go and drink
this over. That was fun badge for this woman explaining
how a bill becomes a lot. Oh, yeah, that was beautiful.
She was the perfect amount of jaded. She was so smart. Uh,
(34:35):
she was awesome. Yeah, we didn't really give her enough. Yeah,
she was awesome. Also, I did actually appreciate some of
the sort of schoolhouse rock just teaching. Yeah, I went
back sometimes just to go like, wait, what did they say?
That's interesting? Yeah, you actually learned. Yeah, I got a
badge for a don Quixote reference. She references don Quixote
actually quite a lot. Yeah, I actually don't know don Quixote.
(34:57):
I was in the play. Actually, I played the horse.
Um My brother played no, no, how have you never
ever brought that up before? You played a horse? Grossy
Nunte and my brother played Don Quixote, and the people
made jokes about that. I got a badge for a
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woman who wants to quit her job most of her
character for most of the films, like I really want
to quit my job and get my fall wardrobe, until
they made her fall in love with the man. I
love her so much. I got a badge for fascinators.
A fascinator is a little hat, often the ones with
the netting, and there were quite a few in this movie.
This is fascinator era, apparently, how fascinating badge for a
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speech that has blah bla bla blah blah. See. Yeah,
she had a whole speech with the sea. And I
got a badge for the discussion of strawberry preserves because
she helps him so much. I think this is why Saunders.
Because Saunders helps Mr Smith. He's like, my mom's gonna
my mom will send you her famous strawberry preserve out,
or he'll send you some jam or something. I really
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don't process a lot of dialogue, I guess in these movies,
and nor do I. But this is the part that
I did, you know, we're taken what what appeals to us?
And I a lover of jam? The Lord giveth and
the mother sends preserves. But now that I'm thinking about it,
he was like, oh my mom will send you jam.
And she's like okay, Like do you want to go out?
And he's like, I like this other girl. And it's like, okay,
you can't just offer a girl your mom's jam and
(36:25):
expect that like that is that is messed up. He
knows what he's doing. All right, this has hit close
to home. I'm sorry, I understand alright, trages tragic, a
trage for the Flirty Times reporters saying what do you
think of the girls in this town? So stupid? Didn't
like it? I got a tragic for on screen reading.
(36:46):
There was quite a bit of it, especially at the beginning.
And not only was it on screen, it was also
on walls. It was like museum, Gettysburg address, monument reading. Yeah,
I feel like those are more The vibe is what
you need to get rather than the specific wording that's like,
(37:06):
you know, four score and seven years ago whatever, whatever,
It's true, Abraham Lincoln. This tells you something when they
put it on the screen, I get so stressed, even
though like I know what it's yeah, yeah, but those
newspaper montages were flash and quick. It was a lot
to read, and they'd never put it in the same
spot on the newspaper, so you had to look around
a lot. I get that I have a trag for
the Senate session opens with a prayer, and I googled
(37:31):
it and it still does today. They literally are like,
Heavenly Father, bless us and let us not, you know,
help the American people. And I was like, what about
the separation of church and state? And the actual Senate
website was like, well, sure there's a separation of church
and state, but there's not separation of God and state.
That's so dark, and I was like, what the yes,
(37:53):
similar moment for me where that's like a very obvious
I should have realized, I forget how far behind we are.
Extra upsetting to you to find out that the filibuster
wasn't just talking, but you had to be standing the
whole time. First of all unpleasant, second of all so
ablest it's true, like deeply so these people are also
like all this ship. You think that they would change
(38:14):
the tune for them. A trag for Jimmy Stewart saying,
I mean, for a woman, you've done awfully well. I mean,
like I know, I know, but it's just a reminder of, like,
oh boy, even when these movies, like even when you're
like this woman is great, you're reminded of like, man,
it's been bad to be a woman. Okay, I gonna
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French for a guy that you have chemistry with talking
about how beautiful another woman is. I just it's just
like we all know, it's kind of like a rude
thing to do, like just let us have our workplace
flirt thing. You don't need to bring up another woman
being really hard. It just feels a little disrespectful because
you get with the vibe is here. Yeah, trash for
all these goddamn children. I'm so sorry. Really, I think
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there was a child in every room that you see
in this movie. It was overwhelming that I felt. I felt,
you know, sort of like fool me once, shame on you,
but fool me every scene of a film. Shame on
you again. Frank Capra, what the fuck? How could we
have known? Unaccepted? How could we have known if his
platform hadn't been boys? You know what. That's another trag.
(39:17):
Trag for a senator's platform being exclusively bors the boys.
I want to make it. I want to I want
to send the boys to nature. Help the boy off
the boards? What about the boys? My biggest trash in
this film is for when he starts delivering his bill
to the floor and he is so nervous and shaky.
(39:40):
That was heartbreaking to me, my heart. I was so
just like, no, maybe, man, it's awful. As someone who
has flopped to presentation in much the same way shaky voice,
et cetera, I had to look away. Yep, right terrifying. Also,
the sentence seems like it sucks, like it seems like
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everybody just is allowed to bully you. There was so
much bullying. Everyone was a bully. My last trag is
Jimmy Stewart referring to the Lady Liberty statue on top
of the Capitol as that lady that's up on top
of this capital Rome. I was like, hey, her name
(40:21):
is Lady Liberty. You can't just call her that lady.
That is so different respect level wise. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
no really true, Sianna. Shall we move on, Yes, let's
move on to our next segment, How to pretend you've
seen this film. This is for when you are interning
for a local politician and your fellow intern who is
(40:44):
just really rear and to go, gonna move to Washington,
d C. Right after graduating career politician, career politician. Boy
boy who's nine years old. This white child walks out
of the smallest car you've seen. Precocious in politics and
precocious in the film bro Attitude, and his name is
(41:05):
George Washington. Little George Washington comes up to you, and
he says, I can't tell a lie. My favorite movie
is one I've seen so many times it made me
want to go into politics. That movie is Mr Smith
Goes to Washington. I'm going to talk about it forever. Then,
in order to stop George Washington from filibustering you about film,
(41:30):
here are a few sentences you can say to pretend
you've seen the film Mr Smith Goes to Washington. George Washington, Um,
yas welcome co entrance. I really loved the American patriotism
(41:51):
of this piece of cinema. George Washington. One thing that
was so so cool was how this movie was mainly
a very insightful political drama, and yet it managed to
weave in a romance. Pretty flawless, Pretty flawless. George Washington.
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Let me tell you a little something I learned from
reading The Boy Times, which is that there is nothing
greater than the position of senator in the US Congress,
no job more honorable and devoted to telling the truth
and helping the people. George Washington. I like how this
(42:37):
movie in some ways guides the viewers through the process
of American governing. George Washington, have you heard of a
place called the Lincoln Memorial, USA? US? All right, Leanna, Yeah,
(43:00):
Tick tick tick on the filibuster clock. Why don't we
save our listeners sometime by giving him a little segment
called should you watch this or in which we tell
you if we think you should watch this movie or
if you should do something else with your precious time. Mianna,
what do you think? No? What? No, you don't need
(43:22):
to Here's what you do. You have a mom who
is a lawyer. You called her, You say, Hi, do
you have a minute. Can you please explain to me
how the filibuster works? And also why is it different now?
And also in the past? What did it what did
doing it? Do? And also are we going to have
a civil war again? I'm a little worried. Oh you
(43:42):
were about to nap? Sorry and then watch National Tragic
Cute Sana, What would you say? I think, well, no,
don't don't want this, don't want this to you guys.
I love Jimmy Stewart, but like, yeah, you've seen it already. Yeah,
if you've seen any film, you've seen this film, you
see in it. Instead, you could watch Veep. Oh for me,
(44:04):
Veep was the first piece of media that I saw
that really kind of woke me up to the way
that corruption as we think of it, or just you know,
like the politics of it all, how it plays out,
people making trades and making compromises and stuff. Julie Louis
Dreyfus check it out icon Queen Legend. Or you could
also just take a rest, get off your feet, put
(44:26):
your feet up, just taken out of your sneakers, take
that thermis out of your coat jacket pocket, and then
sit down, chill out, have a donut. Oh, have a donut, Sienna.
What would you rate the film? Mr Smith goes to
Washington not the state. I would give this film two
(44:49):
out of five dinner tables full of politically conscious children
and a soup Tureen. I give it too because I
think I think it's doing a good job. Like I
really think like it did its job. But it's just
like that's it. I don't need to see it again.
It was predictable. I did like, um, but relaxed Saunders
(45:16):
and um, Jimmy Stored is super hot. But it was
like a little too long and pace kind of weird,
and yeah, I didn't really think it's something I have
to watch. I really don't. I would give this film
one boy sized car out of five, and I give
it one simply for Saunders. I loved her character very
(45:38):
very much, minus the ending. The rest of it. I
just you know, I think, like a lot of people
these days, I feel so very jaded about US government
and things getting done and things actually helping people and
any any of the ideals that were portrayed in this
movie that I was just like, whatever, it's a classic,
(45:58):
like The Conflict is, everybody could just remember how to
be good. I know we're out of time, but I
do want to tell you I do have the full
Preamble to the U S Constitution memorized. Please and I
kind of really do want to reconite to take it away.
I think we're gonna have to cut like a bunch
of things, I said, So go ahead and take it away.
Filibuster me. We the people of the United States, in
(46:19):
order to form a more perfect union, established justice, ensure
domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare,
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
Do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States
(46:45):
of America USA USA. Yeah, okay, everybody that's us on
MS or Smith going to Washington. Next time, come to Seattle.
All right, you know what I would love. Mr Smith
(47:06):
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Today we're watching Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Liberty is
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number twenty six on the A f I List. Warning
there will be spoilers about this American film. US You
was one time I was in line for the Pirates
of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland and it broke and
so it was down for a long time and everybody
and I was waiting, And when it finally got up
(01:03):
and running again, I'm so excited that I started going
us and then the whole line did it with me.
I think it was my most American like moment. That's
built a beautiful and very hilarious story. I love it.
Had you seen this movie before? No? Oh, really not
at all. I felt like maybe you had had you know,
(01:25):
but I thought, because you know Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, I
actually I have not seen it and I didn't know anything.
Oh my god. Great. Okay, well let's listen to each
other's predictions of what we thought this movie was gonna be. Okay,
we'll do my prediction first. Hi, Leanna, your friend Sienna. Here,
I'm about to watch a film called Mr Smith Goes
to Washington. Somehow I know that this is a Jimmy
(01:46):
Stewart movie. Though I may pray that it's Washington State,
I know in my heart that it's the district of Columbia. Nice.
So probably he's gonna do something with politics. Maybe he'll go,
um so Congress. I'm very Congress. All right, fingers crossed,
(02:09):
and I will take y l Mary Congress. I'm also
so stupid as a human being and adult that when
I found out that there were senators in this movie,
I was like, yes, good job, Sienna. Sienna, here's my
(02:32):
prediction from what I thought Mr Smith Goes to Washington
would be. Okay, And I'm seeing two recordings here, so
I'll start with the first one. Good morning, Sienna. This
is Leanna. I'm about to watch Mr Smith goes to Washington.
There he goes. I don't know anything about this film.
(02:53):
It's from the thirties, I think, and my guess is
a white man is going to go to our nation's
capital and affect change, affect change effect, like the verb effect.
I also imagine, you know, he's going to like inspire
(03:13):
Congress to do the right thing, which is to say,
this movie is a work of fiction. I love you
by Okay, I'm literally googling it. It's effect change with
an e. I've never quite seen the face speaking right now.
It's like a face of this can't be But also
(03:34):
I'm about to pretend to be asleep. Is this the
one fucking time that effect is a verb? It's like
the only time that's so politics of it flip flop
like that. Yeah, Okay. This nextpert is from when I
pulled up the film to watch it. Okay, update, Oh
my god, it's Jimmy Stewart Martlin, but from oh this
(03:56):
movie might be hot? Okay, incredible? Was it hot for you?
In some ways? He so tall the longest he's been
I think. How would you summarize the film, Mr Smith?
Goes to Washington and Brackett's district of Columbia quickly. I
(04:21):
don't need to look up the name of a woman
in the film, Clarissa Saunders. Saunders played by Jean Arthur
Bernie's saunder us remarked, man's a summary of Mr. Smith
(04:44):
goes to Washington after Jefferson Smith, played by a man
by the same initials, Jimmy Stewart is serendipitously appointed to
the Senate. He arrives to the corrupt and callous political
landscape of Washington, d C. Bearing only his American id
eels and a sincere sense of integrity. He's also assisted
(05:05):
greatly by a woman, his secretary, Saunders, who becomes his
love interest. Anything more to say, he loves nature, there's
a damn issue so much more. The other senator from
his same state is kind of a mentor to him.
But that senator is in the pocket of a very
(05:25):
wealthy man who is buying up land for a dam
in in order to get Jimmy off of his back
and not voting on anything. The senators like, just write
your own bill, and Jimmy's like, okay, and then he
writes it, but it's for an area of land that
ends up being that same area where the damn is
being built. So the main conflict is between Jimmy and
the other senator from his state, whose name is of
(05:46):
course Joe. In the end, the way that Jimmy saves
the day as he's filibusters the vote to remove him
from the Senate so that his bill could get past
and he can keep being a senator. Right, I feel
like I wrapped that up and all that sudden it
was corrupt. We don't always say every bat of the movie,
we have to right now because a lot of that
(06:08):
is in my historical context. Leona, I am fascinated to
hear some historical context about this film. Thank you. I
welcome to the historical context for high Mr Smith goes
to Washington, which was really you Gotta do it All
British release based on an unpublished story which was called
(06:31):
The Gentleman from Montana by Lewis R. Foster, and that
story was loosely based on the life of Montana U
S Senator Burton Wheeler, who was investigating the Warren Harding
administration for something. So that's like the parallel of like corruption,
small boy going up against big government. The film's world
premiere was at Constitution Hall in Washington, d C. And
(06:55):
it played to actual U S senators and representatives, including
hey Ry S. Truman heard of him. Truman said of
the film, quote, it makes asses out of all senators
who are not crooks, but it also shows up the
correspondence in their true drunken light too. Senate Majority Leader
Alban Berkley. These people's names are so funny on the
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film said it showed the Senate at the biggest aggregation
of nincompoops on record. When it premiered, a lot of
d C press and politicians called for it to be banned,
that it was anti American and communist. This isn't thirty nine,
So again like communism bug in the US. That's so embarrassing.
Though it's so embarrassing for them, they're like, you made
(07:39):
us look stupid. You're a communist. The other thing is
like it was banned in Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and
Franco's Spain. So like, if the fascists are banning it,
maybe like you shouldn't. This is fun. It's not because
it's about Nazis, but it's interesting, which to me is fun.
The final English language film that was shown in cinemas
(08:01):
in France in ninety two before the Nazi ordered band
was imposed was this movie. And there was one cinema
that played it like constantly for thirty days straight on
a luke because it's about democracy. God, this is a
really interesting time in America, which is a perfect segue
into me talking about this time in America ninety nine America.
(08:24):
This movie premiere in October of that year, and that
is the same year that the Movie's Gone with the
Wind and the Wizard of Oz came out. WHOA I know,
isn't that crazy? Okay? Nine nine more than twenty thousand
people attended a Nazi rally at Madison Square Gardens in
February of that year. So Nazism was popular in the US,
(08:45):
but it was still two years before the US was
going to officially enter World War two. Nine is when
Germany marched into Poland. It's the year that World War
two started, except not on the U S S. And
also in nineteen thirty nine, the US denied permission to
the s S St. Louis to land in Florida, and
that is the boat that was carrying nine d and
seven Jewish refugees that had to then turn around and
(09:08):
go back to Europe, and then a lot of those
passengers ended up dying in prison camps during the Holocaust.
So that's that was like the u S landscape at
the time, and now why we should abolish the filibuster.
A lot of people believe that this movie specifically played
a role in preserving the filibuster because of how iconically
(09:30):
it portrays it and it romanticizes it so much and
makes it seem so heroic and good and cool. Wow,
that's that just makes a lot of sense. This is
like a way that they're using this policy to be
like white man us, you just work hard, blew yourself
up by your bootstraps, baby. And a lot of schools
(09:52):
use this film to teach about what the filibuster is
because the filibuster is so weird and like hard to understand,
but this movie is a good representation of like ideally
it could be. But what's crazy is that even at
the time of the movie's release, the filibuster had a
history of blocking, specifically civil rights legislation, because the seven
Southern Senators successfully filibustered anti lynching legislation, which is crazy, insane.
(10:17):
The like most famous filibuster in US history was in
nineteen fifty seven, when strom Thurmond spoke for twenty four
hours and eighteen minutes in an attempt to block that
year's landmark civil rights legislation, which passed. Anyway, I know
that God's also like, the filibuster is not like a
heroic thing in the way that this movie paints it
to be. Ben Mankowitz, who's the host of Turner Classic Movies,
(10:41):
has said of this film, quote, Jimmy Stewart takes a
stand against the abuse of power and injustice. And yet
the signature filibuster in history, the strong Therman, was to
protect abuse of power and stand for injustice. And quote basically,
the filibuster has almost always been used in US history
and still is to uphold white supremacy in the country.
(11:03):
And that is a big reason to get rid of
it today. Also, all that a senator has to do
in order to filibuster something is send an email. Oh
my god, you don't have to stand up and talk
at all. Now. What you have to do is like
threatened to filibuster. And what it does is it makes
any bill instead of requiring a simple majority, which is
(11:23):
the simple majority is fifty one votes out of the
hundred in the U. S. Senate, instead of requiring fifty
one if you threatened to the filibuster, and thus filibuster
these days, it ups the required votes to sixty. And
the reason that nothing is getting done in the Senate
right now is because there are fifty Democrats and fifty Republicans,
and the Democrats have the tie break with Vice President Harris,
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but that's only votes, so we could get a simple
majority on bills, but because people keep filibustering ship, we
can never get anything past because no sixty senators are
going to vote for the same thing these days, because
we're so polarized as a country. The filibuster is a
Senate rule. It's not even a lot. So senators could
just get rid of it, like they can change that
rule in the Senate if they want to, and could
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have except for two Democratics who are currently standing in
the way of it, which is Joe Manchin and Christen Cinema.
It's cute. So you just feel insane in this country
because the people in power are like, if you want change,
go vote, and then you go vote for those people
and They're like, oh, no, we're not going to change
that though. No, we need to compromise. We can, we
should listen to the other side. It's like the other
(12:27):
side is Nazis. That's why we voted to stop the nuts. Right.
The issue with the filibuster these days, to distill it down,
is that right now, one senator who does not represent
the majority of American opinion or need can block passage
of things ranging from the Voting Rights Act to economic
and climate justice legislation, Like huge improvements could be made
(12:52):
in this country if one little asshole from one little
state didn't have the power to filibuster legislation in the U. S. Senate.
It's just like the worst family member at Thanksgiving, it
just gets to decide, gets the storm off, gets to
you know, like the least mature person in the room
gets to decide that you don't get to, you know,
go to dessert. Now, the filibuster, I feel like it's
(13:12):
the highest steaks, like killing the vibe totally that you
could do so to sum up, abolish the filibuster, because
that way the US government could actually help the US people. Crazy, right,
that was great, thank you, thank you all right, Well,
I'm so glad that your mom knows things. Yes, thank
(13:33):
you to my lawyer mom. I'm an American studies major,
but I am a shameful person. I am. I'm a disgrace.
My mom literally worked for the a c LU, like
she knows specifically about civil liberty. So still there is
not an expectation that you would have the same of understanding. Leanna,
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what do you think of a film? Can I just Okay,
so we have our phone notes to go over, but
can I just say my take? Is this Sienna segment?
Can I just say? Can I just say this movie
was completely unsurprising except for like three things which were
incredibly surprising. Okay. The hat scene where he keeps dropping
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the hat. Okay, it just surprised me cinematically, it was
like it was very different, right, it was very different. Yeah,
you're not that close to any other item in the film.
The scene where he punched everybody in the face. I
felt so blessed by that scene. It was the funniest thing.
It was so unhinged. That was weird. And the children
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getting obliterated. Okay, Sienna, it is time for you to
look at my phone notes, because every note that is
highlighted in orange is about the Boys film. Okay, great, So,
I mean, it is indescribable how many boys young boys
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are in this film. It starts out and you're like,
that's a lot of boys, and then to the end
of it and you were like, that was a lot
of boys. It was way more boys than I even
would have thought when there were originally a lot of boys.
And it's like the number of boys is like it
makes sense at the beginning because he's the leader of
not the Boy the Boy Rangers, and so you're like, Okay,
there's gonna be a bunch of boys in this first scene,
and then we're not going to have to see a
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lot of boys for the next hour and a half,
exactly in every city, in every building. Also, his whole
platform was kind of just bullying boys. The whole fucking
thing that he filibusters for is to build a camp
for boys. That's where I was like, this movie is stupid.
Like if it were today, the thing that they would
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be filibustering four is like, maybe stop shooting kids in
high schools. And it wouldn't work because the senators wouldn't
change their minds, because the n r A would still
be paying them through the nose. Yeah, unfortunately, probably filibuster
for the other side. That is where I was like, oh, yeah, wait,
he's a year because he built a camp for boys.
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No mention of race, of course, no mention of he's
like of all creeds. And I was like, gone with
the wind came out the actual like the pages, the
interns in this movie are like nine years old, young
boys scuttling around, and then for some reason there's like
a hundred boys sitting in the gallery of the Senate,
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which again made sense the first time when you're like, Okay,
he's getting here and we're excited because he's the guy
who's like in charge of the boys they were there
for like like do they have school? I was, I
guess not in the past. Like I guess a boy
could be actually anywhere any given time in the cities
in the past, a boy could be anywhere. That's why
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I was so scary. Yeah, I was thinking too, it's
like these Pages who were in this role, like a
lot now people in those roles are doing it to
further their career. I guess at the time it was
just child labor, right, it was just like make a
boy doing who's whose white son. Hope we're going to
take an ad break, but don't worry. This is gonna
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take way less time than it takes for a bill
to become a lot. The first now you bolded someone
in the credits is named baby Dumpling, Leanna. The very
first thing I noticed in this film, and I highlighted
this because I thought, I bet a lot of people
have seen this film a lot of times and have
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feelings on this film and have never noticed that one
of the boys was named baby Dumpling. Oh my god,
And then you've written this is going to be impossible
for me to watch. I felt the same way. I
wrote something that was like, there's no I'm gonna be
able to understand this movie because there's everybody in it
is the same. Okay, Leanna says, Fox's sake, all these
children kill me. Okay because when we first meet the children,
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by the way in the movie, this is one of
the first The first guy who had to appoint a
new senator, who I guess was the governor of the state.
I didn't know what he's who he was, didn't He
was very, very very stressed by who to choose because
the senator had died, and so they have to replace
the senator with somebody, and so he had dinner with
his hundreds of children and the biggest tureen of soup, Tureen, Tarine.
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Is that the big the big tureen holding the soup.
You know, a tureen, huge tureen of soup. Leona says Sienna.
I'm not kidding. I almost turned this movie off. Every
time there was a child on screen. I was more
surprised than the last. And I almost didn't make it
through the first one because it was so many boys
doing acting. They were they were talking for so long,
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they were acting hard. They were also all talking about
politics and like their ideas about who they that should
go for. You said, how are they saying so many
names but none of them are Smith? Oh yeah, For
the first like ten minutes of the movie, it felt
like it was probably more like three minutes. They were
just reading around politician. How did you know to listen
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for Smith? Mr Smith goes to Washington. Oh my god,
the titular Smith. I am appalled at myself, but yeah,
they do. They say so many names at the beginning,
and so many of them started with ja. I know,
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they were like Joe Shimmy and George. Well that's but
you know, they're all like j S names and trading
them around. So it's so much by the way, the
big bad guy he like doesn't have a mustache, but
he does. I actually really get what you mean by Also,
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something important worth noting is just that this movie is
so much like all the other movies. It's It's a
Wonderful Life. Earlier years, it's and Frank Kapra did It's
a Wonderful Life, and the same thing, it's Politics edition,
where they're like this guy, he is the best exactly.
I'm just quickly very glad to see that. You also
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wrote Jimmy Stewart is so hot. He's really hot in
this movie. He is. He's so so age appropriate for
the women. I'd actually like to know because he just
plays some a few different energies, and I'd like to
know what you found really hot. When he first sits
at his desk in the Senate Chamber for the first time,
and he doesn't know what to do with his hands,
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so he tries out a few different little desk poses,
and then when he collapses at the end, Oh my,
you were like that was very hot. He collapsed. It's
hard to get more haunted than passing away after talking
for like twenty hours straight. Yeah, his voice, he was quieter,
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he was reading, and he was so haunted by that point.
When was he hot for you? This is what I
was curious about because that's sort of similar with his
hands on the desk. But I just found him so
cute being so nervous, and this one like when when
are you're saying, You're saying cute rather than hot? Well,
very very hot, But I don't want to say it
was really hot that he was nervous. That feels like weird.
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That feels problematic, like when guys are like, oh, she's
so pretty much she cries. Shout out to all my
residents when we were watching The Bachelor, you know, they
were like, yeah, it looks really good crying. I learned
so much. It's really good. Yeah, he's like getting on
the phone, all nervous, so cute. It was so unappealing
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to me, just like I think for me, that's because
Clarissa Saunders was watching him, like get nervous about this
woman that he doesn't know and just thinks she's hot.
And I have seen that up close too many a time,
So I was like, there was a lot of annoyingness
around that, around the the sort of Clarissa jealousy storyline
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that we say I hated that they made her fall
in love with him. Really, I was so mad. I
was so mad because I was like, you know what,
I figured it out. This movie is just us politics
ted Lasso, where everybody's like, you can't help but to
root for him. Once you get to know him, you
just can't help but to like him the best. This
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guy is the best. The dynamic between the two main characters,
the man and the woman, never gets romantic, and that's
what makes it so good is that it doesn't, because
the coach is that it always does. And this woman
would not have fallen for this man. He was like
this guy from nowhere near her. She had to explain
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constitutional law to him. All she wanted was to get
a new fall wardrobe and quit her job. No, she
was not looking for love as the writer's purported her
to be. Mm hmmm, I do not believe it. Also,
if you have to walk a man through a twenty
four hour filibuster, you're not gonna want to bone him
after that. Some people would, would you um, not specifically,
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but I do see why this is something really unappealing
to you and why there's that whole trope of like
I want to fix him, and men have this with
women as well, and people have this with each other
in general, Like lots of people have that dynamic where
they're like, oh, I just want to help and it's
so fun watching them get better and like need me,
need me. So it totally made sense to me why
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she liked him. Also, he's really hot, but it is
it was annoying for sure, for sure, And we also
watch her go through like stages of settling when she's like,
I'm jealous, he doesn't want me, so I'm gonna marry
my journalist friend. Was he the uncle uncle Uncle Billy
crow Boy from It's a Wonderful He was. There were
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tons of It's a Wonderful lish so many years. I
know they're like contemporaries in this movie. Do you want
to hear a crazy casting thing? Is the other senator
Joe the rival to the Silver Night? That's what I
kept calling him because they called him that one time.
We've seen him before. Okay, I don't know this. He
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played your favorite my least favorite character in Casablanca, the
police chiefs no Way, which is insane. He looks so
much older in this movie, which came out three years before.
She's also, in my mind, a completely different shape. That's
because he wears a hat and maybe a wig in
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this one, or at least very white hair. It's mainly
the hat in the uniform. He's like the board of
a recktail. He's just such a specific shape in both
these movies. To me, he yes, no way, wow. Oh
Jimmy Stewart having secretly big anger issues, yeah, which we
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see when he punches every journalist. Don't talk about it,
that what's talking about? Because he's come to Washington. He's
this like do wide boy with huge patriotic ideals of
what America is, and he's very incorrect about it. And
then the reporters get him and they do this profile
on him that's very, very blown out of proportion. And
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when he hears about it and he's made fun of
in the Senate, he leaves and finds every reporter in
Washington and punches each of them once so fun. He
stops them in the in the sidewalk and he winds
up like they know they're about to get punched. They
don't do anything to avoid it. They're all holding a
newspaper to demonstrate that their journalists. It's one of them
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says the line that guy Smith's punching everybody he meets,
and I'm like, this is really happening. What are you
talking about? What funny He's going and punching everybody square
in the face one time, and we don't capture that
energy from him ever again in the film. It's very anachronistic.
It's so weird, so weird. Should we talk about when
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they get obliterated? Yeah? So so Jimmy start is filibus,
String up a Storm and the big bad guy heart
who James Jim Taylor. James Taylor runs all the newspapers
in in Jimmy Stewart's home state, and so he's not
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allowing any of those newspapers to run any of what
Jimmy Stewart is saying. So nobody in his home states
hearing him, and the Snoody's rallying for his cause until
Clarissa Saunders remembers that Jimmy owns the newspaper and I
was like, this is late time and it's run completely
by boys and the mom from It's a Wonderful Life.
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So they call them up. They're like, write down everything
we're saying, super quick, and type it all up and
print it up immediately. And so the boys literally do
a printing press montage, which is extraordinarily indescribably news. Ees,
the boys, I'll print the newspapers and start distributing them.
And then fully grown men are sent by Taylor too,
like physically demolished. So the boys and the main scene
(27:12):
that we see of them like actually taking them out
because you know, they're yelling at them as these boys
go around being like we got the boy times get
it well, it's hot, we're the only ones printing anything. True. Well,
the scene where we really see it happened, Like, guys,
this movie is so predictable except for like just a
few just seconds of insane footage. This one one of
the little boys is driving a car, like a very
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small boy sized car. It's one of the children. There's
no way he was of age. I think this was
just the past. But like again, a boy could be
anywhere a license, a license was just if you found
a car. A boy could be in a car, And
this big in my mind, it's like a double decker. No,
it's it's just a man sized car next to a
boy sized car. So it's very large, taller car full
(27:58):
of men is driving next to them and they're you know,
like shaking their fits, and then they sort of veer
and they veer into the little boy vehicle crash the car,
implying that they killed them. But it don't see that.
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You just see a woman calling another woman and being
like so much damage it cuts, And then the mom
is like they're all getting hurt, Like wait, this is
like the punch scene where you're like, did they actually
get hurt. It's a plot point that then Clarissa Saunders
needs to go be like, hey, we need to stop
this because all the little boys around town are getting obliterated.
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My favorite, the one that I actually really laughed aloud at.
This is early in the Obliteration Antaj. One man walks
into the boy printing press room. Then the boy who
answers the door, it's like what's up, Mr? And the
man punches the boy and it's so insane. But again,
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it's like in a montage here, there's not time to
process any of what's happening. This was such a specific
time in filmmaking that allowed these things to happen. Yeah,
had certain standards, but not all of them, you know,
so it's failing. A big question that I had. How
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was saying mostly pus legal in they say plus in
this movie. Oh my god, there were three newspaper montages
in this film. This is too many montages in a
two hour film. This movie wasn't paste right. I don't
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think this movie was good. One thing I also wrote
was this is from before they figured out how to
end movies, which we've talked about. This is another one
where they end at the very high moment, Like I
think I actually wrote, like, there's one minute for this
film to end. There's one minute until it ends. I
don't know what's gonna happen because he was like he
like just woken up from fainting with like two and
(30:08):
a half minutes left. You're like, what's going to happen
a lot? Yeah, so much. And it ends with his
office dad, his co senator, Yeah, who somehow has a gun.
I know. He runs out and shoots ascance. Yeah, gets
everyone's attention. Yeah, he runs back in, which is a
(30:29):
very funny way. Like I get that. It's like the
less destructive way of gathering rooms like but to leave
and break something and then come back anyway, comes back
in and he's like, I'm not fit to be a senator.
It's like, you're right, you got me, you got me,
and then it ends and that's the end. There's no like,
we don't actually see Jimmy and Saunders connect. Ever, she
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just writes to him via the Constitution she's in love
with him, and has that delivered to the Senate floor.
They don't even gets a kiss, even though there was
that moment where he's like looking at her when she's
building him up in front of and he's like, I
can't testify. I have to go to the Lincoln Memorial. Yes,
which he's obsessed with. By the way, you think that
he really believes in American ideals, but when you look
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at it closer, he's just obsessed with the Lincoln Memorial.
They're like, why no, we have to compromise, and he's like,
but have you been to the Lincoln Memorial? Sorry, everyone,
we gotta go punch some reporters in the face. We'll
be right back. I do get how at the time,
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if this was the first the first West Wing, the
first vat Yes, the first calling out Congress for being corrupt.
That's really cool. Sure, that's really cool, and we get it.
We do get it now, Leona, would you like to
move on to badges and trages please, and thank you?
I would love to. This is our segment Badges and Tratches,
in which we a war the film badges for things
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that we felt us yea about, and tragices for things
we felt us nay about. I got a badge for
a film that starts with everyone saying hello, I have
a badge for a man having trouble getting out of
a phone booth that moment, wasn't that seems like a
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blooper badge for saying someone's name? And then the whole
room shouts no, when was that? When they announced which
senator they're gonna appoint and it's they're originally going for
just some guy who's going to vote whatever way he's
told to, and they announced it to this room of
like delegates or whatever. In the whole room is like, no,
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that guy, No, okay. I got a badge for that
reporter who seemed to be from the Flirty Times eating
a donut in a funky hat. Um. I have a
badge for this reporter eating a donut slash. A lot
of doughnuts in this film were there more? Almost every
character eats a donut no way. You know what's funny
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is I didn't notice them specifically, but when she was
eating that donut, I thought it looked completely natural. Within
the world. It was like a bunch of male reporters
and then the one female reporter. All she asked is
do you think any girls are cute? Which is why
I assumed she must be from the flirting content. There's
the Boy Times and the Flirty Times, and then there's
the men's newspapers. I've got a badge for. Okay, a
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woman being referred to primarily by her last name kind
of the closest thing we have to feminism. We will
never close the wage gap, but we will get closer
by calling women by their last name. He had to.
It wasn't ntil like halfway through the film that we
found out her name is Clarissa and everyone who'd just
been calling her sausage. I can't remember Saunders, Saunders. Everyone
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has been calling her? Would it be sausage? Everyone had
just been calling her Saunders. Badge for when Saunders says,
I wasn't given a brain just to tell a boy
ranger what time it is. I loved her so much. Yes,
she was awesome. She was great. This was actually like
a really good woman character. Yeah. I was gonna say,
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it's the falling in love part and the falling in love.
I see like it sucked her. I see what you're saying.
But she played it well, Like this was a good
role she did, and she did a good job. I
gotta bade to the line. I gotta go and drink
this over. That was fun badge for this woman explaining
how a bill becomes a lot. Oh, yeah, that was beautiful.
She was the perfect amount of jaded. She was so smart. Uh,
(34:35):
she was awesome. Yeah, we didn't really give her enough. Yeah,
she was awesome. Also, I did actually appreciate some of
the sort of schoolhouse rock just teaching. Yeah, I went
back sometimes just to go like, wait, what did they say?
That's interesting? Yeah, you actually learned. Yeah, I got a
badge for a don Quixote reference. She references don Quixote
actually quite a lot. Yeah, I actually don't know don Quixote.
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I was in the play. Actually, I played the horse.
Um My brother played no, no, how have you never
ever brought that up before? You played a horse? Grossy
Nunte and my brother played Don Quixote, and the people
made jokes about that. I got a badge for a
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woman who wants to quit her job most of her
character for most of the films, like I really want
to quit my job and get my fall wardrobe, until
they made her fall in love with the man. I
love her so much. I got a badge for fascinators.
A fascinator is a little hat, often the ones with
the netting, and there were quite a few in this movie.
This is fascinator era, apparently, how fascinating badge for a
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speech that has blah bla bla blah blah. See. Yeah,
she had a whole speech with the sea. And I
got a badge for the discussion of strawberry preserves because
she helps him so much. I think this is why Saunders.
Because Saunders helps Mr Smith. He's like, my mom's gonna
my mom will send you her famous strawberry preserve out,
or he'll send you some jam or something. I really
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don't process a lot of dialogue, I guess in these movies,
and nor do I. But this is the part that
I did, you know, we're taken what what appeals to us?
And I a lover of jam? The Lord giveth and
the mother sends preserves. But now that I'm thinking about it,
he was like, oh my mom will send you jam.
And she's like okay, Like do you want to go out?
And he's like, I like this other girl. And it's like, okay,
you can't just offer a girl your mom's jam and
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expect that like that is that is messed up. He
knows what he's doing. All right, this has hit close
to home. I'm sorry, I understand alright, trages tragic, a
trage for the Flirty Times reporters saying what do you
think of the girls in this town? So stupid? Didn't
like it? I got a tragic for on screen reading.
(36:46):
There was quite a bit of it, especially at the beginning.
And not only was it on screen, it was also
on walls. It was like museum, Gettysburg address, monument reading. Yeah,
I feel like those are more The vibe is what
you need to get rather than the specific wording that's like,
(37:06):
you know, four score and seven years ago whatever, whatever,
It's true, Abraham Lincoln. This tells you something when they
put it on the screen, I get so stressed, even
though like I know what it's yeah, yeah, but those
newspaper montages were flash and quick. It was a lot
to read, and they'd never put it in the same
spot on the newspaper, so you had to look around
a lot. I get that I have a trag for
the Senate session opens with a prayer, and I googled
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it and it still does today. They literally are like,
Heavenly Father, bless us and let us not, you know,
help the American people. And I was like, what about
the separation of church and state? And the actual Senate
website was like, well, sure there's a separation of church
and state, but there's not separation of God and state.
That's so dark, and I was like, what the yes,
(37:53):
similar moment for me where that's like a very obvious
I should have realized, I forget how far behind we are.
Extra upsetting to you to find out that the filibuster
wasn't just talking, but you had to be standing the
whole time. First of all unpleasant, second of all so
ablest it's true, like deeply so these people are also
like all this ship. You think that they would change
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the tune for them. A trag for Jimmy Stewart saying,
I mean, for a woman, you've done awfully well. I mean,
like I know, I know, but it's just a reminder of, like,
oh boy, even when these movies, like even when you're
like this woman is great, you're reminded of like, man,
it's been bad to be a woman. Okay, I gonna
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French for a guy that you have chemistry with talking
about how beautiful another woman is. I just it's just
like we all know, it's kind of like a rude
thing to do, like just let us have our workplace
flirt thing. You don't need to bring up another woman
being really hard. It just feels a little disrespectful because
you get with the vibe is here. Yeah, trash for
all these goddamn children. I'm so sorry. Really, I think
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there was a child in every room that you see
in this movie. It was overwhelming that I felt. I felt,
you know, sort of like fool me once, shame on you,
but fool me every scene of a film. Shame on
you again. Frank Capra, what the fuck? How could we
have known? Unaccepted? How could we have known if his
platform hadn't been boys? You know what. That's another trag.
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Trag for a senator's platform being exclusively bors the boys.
I want to make it. I want to I want
to send the boys to nature. Help the boy off
the boards? What about the boys? My biggest trash in
this film is for when he starts delivering his bill
to the floor and he is so nervous and shaky.
(39:40):
That was heartbreaking to me, my heart. I was so
just like, no, maybe, man, it's awful. As someone who
has flopped to presentation in much the same way shaky voice,
et cetera, I had to look away. Yep, right terrifying. Also,
the sentence seems like it sucks, like it seems like
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everybody just is allowed to bully you. There was so
much bullying. Everyone was a bully. My last trag is
Jimmy Stewart referring to the Lady Liberty statue on top
of the Capitol as that lady that's up on top
of this capital Rome. I was like, hey, her name
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is Lady Liberty. You can't just call her that lady.
That is so different respect level wise. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
no really true, Sianna. Shall we move on, Yes, let's
move on to our next segment, How to pretend you've
seen this film. This is for when you are interning
for a local politician and your fellow intern who is
(40:44):
just really rear and to go, gonna move to Washington,
d C. Right after graduating career politician, career politician. Boy
boy who's nine years old. This white child walks out
of the smallest car you've seen. Precocious in politics and
precocious in the film bro Attitude, and his name is
(41:05):
George Washington. Little George Washington comes up to you, and
he says, I can't tell a lie. My favorite movie
is one I've seen so many times it made me
want to go into politics. That movie is Mr Smith
Goes to Washington. I'm going to talk about it forever. Then,
in order to stop George Washington from filibustering you about film,
(41:30):
here are a few sentences you can say to pretend
you've seen the film Mr Smith Goes to Washington. George Washington, Um,
yas welcome co entrance. I really loved the American patriotism
(41:51):
of this piece of cinema. George Washington. One thing that
was so so cool was how this movie was mainly
a very insightful political drama, and yet it managed to
weave in a romance. Pretty flawless, Pretty flawless. George Washington.
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Let me tell you a little something I learned from
reading The Boy Times, which is that there is nothing
greater than the position of senator in the US Congress,
no job more honorable and devoted to telling the truth
and helping the people. George Washington. I like how this
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movie in some ways guides the viewers through the process
of American governing. George Washington, have you heard of a
place called the Lincoln Memorial, USA? US? All right, Leanna, Yeah,
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Tick tick tick on the filibuster clock. Why don't we
save our listeners sometime by giving him a little segment
called should you watch this or in which we tell
you if we think you should watch this movie or
if you should do something else with your precious time. Mianna,
what do you think? No? What? No, you don't need
(43:22):
to Here's what you do. You have a mom who
is a lawyer. You called her, You say, Hi, do
you have a minute. Can you please explain to me
how the filibuster works? And also why is it different now?
And also in the past? What did it what did
doing it? Do? And also are we going to have
a civil war again? I'm a little worried. Oh you
(43:42):
were about to nap? Sorry and then watch National Tragic
Cute Sana, What would you say? I think, well, no,
don't don't want this, don't want this to you guys.
I love Jimmy Stewart, but like, yeah, you've seen it already. Yeah,
if you've seen any film, you've seen this film, you
see in it. Instead, you could watch Veep. Oh for me,
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Veep was the first piece of media that I saw
that really kind of woke me up to the way
that corruption as we think of it, or just you know,
like the politics of it all, how it plays out,
people making trades and making compromises and stuff. Julie Louis
Dreyfus check it out icon Queen Legend. Or you could
also just take a rest, get off your feet, put
(44:26):
your feet up, just taken out of your sneakers, take
that thermis out of your coat jacket pocket, and then
sit down, chill out, have a donut. Oh, have a donut, Sienna.
What would you rate the film? Mr Smith goes to
Washington not the state. I would give this film two
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out of five dinner tables full of politically conscious children
and a soup Tureen. I give it too because I
think I think it's doing a good job. Like I
really think like it did its job. But it's just
like that's it. I don't need to see it again.
It was predictable. I did like, um, but relaxed Saunders
(45:16):
and um, Jimmy Stored is super hot. But it was
like a little too long and pace kind of weird,
and yeah, I didn't really think it's something I have
to watch. I really don't. I would give this film
one boy sized car out of five, and I give
it one simply for Saunders. I loved her character very
(45:38):
very much, minus the ending. The rest of it. I
just you know, I think, like a lot of people
these days, I feel so very jaded about US government
and things getting done and things actually helping people and
any any of the ideals that were portrayed in this
movie that I was just like, whatever, it's a classic,
(45:58):
like The Conflict is, everybody could just remember how to
be good. I know we're out of time, but I
do want to tell you I do have the full
Preamble to the U S Constitution memorized. Please and I
kind of really do want to reconite to take it away.
I think we're gonna have to cut like a bunch
of things, I said, So go ahead and take it away.
Filibuster me. We the people of the United States, in
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order to form a more perfect union, established justice, ensure
domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare,
and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
Do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States
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of America USA USA. Yeah, okay, everybody that's us on
MS or Smith going to Washington. Next time, come to Seattle.
All right, you know what I would love. Mr Smith
(47:06):
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