January 22, 2026 • 30 mins
Is there another Olympic Duo as dynamic as Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang? NBC's Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir drop by to discuss the Milan-Cortina Winter Olympics! Tara explains how the two former skaters met and became friends and co-workers. Johnny discusses all the different events the two have taken part in and how they've been so widely accepted. From the Oscars, the Super Bowl, the Olympics, the Kentucky Derby, and the National Dog Show....find out what makes Johnny and Tara so magical together in this episode of the Two Guys, Five Rings Podcast!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ring Ring, Ring Ring Ring.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That was a new melody we found.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I like it, ring Ring, Ring, Ring Ring. It can
mean anything, and it is five No, it's five syllables.
It's five opportunities for or more opportunities for melody.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And that's on music now today. We're here to talk
about sports though, because this is the two Guys Five
Rings podcast, and I'm Matt Rogers.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm Bowen Yang. Would you say music is the opposite
of sports.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I would no, theater is the opposite of sports.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I don't know. Theater and sports are kind of similar
where it's just people watching.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, here's the thing. Theater really does meet sports when
we discuss a certain dynamic duo that's get this on
our show today. Yes, there is another Olympics duo that's
not us. I don't know whether it be threatened or welcoming.
I guess because they're on the show, we should choose
the latter.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We should choose the ladder and welcome. Then they are
our guests. We're not gonna We're not gonna threaten. It's
gonna be a nice moment. We don't want to be.
I don't know a judge, Judy, now that woman she
brings people into her show and then she's rude to them.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
She really is a very judgmental person. But I guess
that's sort of the whole thing with being a judge,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'd go, oh, Judge Shineland, have some respect for yourself.
I'm not gonna call you by your first name. I
don't know you like that. Oh wow, yeah, Shindlin. I
forget about the Shindlin of it all. I happen to
like that name, Judge, Judy Shineler and Judy Shine, you
know what are great last names as well? What Lipinski
and Weird?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I can't think of better. Rogers and Yang get Bent,
get Ben, get Bent seriously seriously sick of us. Anyway,
Luckily these two are going to be all over our
screens for the next I guess, hopefully the hope they
make it very far. On Traders, we don't yet know, yes,
but I will say that they are on traders. They
(02:05):
are Olympians themselves. They are commentating, which is different than judging.
In fact, they often commentate on the.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Judging, which is very valuable. It's the checks and balances
of the Olympics, as it were.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And here they are the one, the only, or should
we say the two and only, the two and only
Tylinsky and Johnny weird enjoy Well, well, well look who
it is?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Another pair, another iconic pair. We've got Tarylepinsky and Johnny.
We're with us.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thanks for joining, so excited to be Thank you guys
for having us listen.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We did need someone, anyone with any expertise about winter
sports to come beyond this podcast because it is not us.
So thank you so much for throwing us a life raft.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're here to help.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
We're right, So explain the concept of winter for everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, in hockey, they wear pads for winter.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh that's the main thing that we need to know.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Padding of course, so you guys are obviously I think
it's sort of like changed commentating when you guys like
decided to team up. Was that an idea that you
guys had about each other or was it sort of
was there a chemistry? Read like, how did it happen
that you guys came to be?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
It was really kismet because I was commentating at the
women's event and Johnny was commentating the men's event, and
we were doing it separately, and of course, you know
skating is a very small world, so I knew of Johnny,
but we never really had a lot of interactions. We
skated at different times and competed at different times. But
we were in NBC Sports studios and waiting to do
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our respective commentaries that night, and we were sitting in
a hallway on the with our bags next to each other,
and we just started talking about our handbags and I
was like, this is my best friend. I don't know
where he's been, but this is my soulmate in life,
and I love you, and pretty much we chatted and
by the end of that conversation, we said we need
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to pitch NBC that we commentate together.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And this was right before the twenty fourteen Olympics. Oh
my goodness, it's been crazy over a decade. And we
then did a little audition.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh there was an audition.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
There was an audition, and I think we nailed it.
And then we moved on to So Cheap.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And the thing is about like where we both come from.
Obviously we share a past as figure skaters and elite athletes,
and figure skating has a bad reputation for not being
the warmest and coziest of environments because it's not like football,
where you have a game every single weekend to prove yourself,
really get one chance in front of the world. So
that ultimately creates a culture where it's so competitive and
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you don't want to trust anyone because they might stand
in your path. And for some reason, when Tara and
I met, I didn't feel any of that. I didn't
feel any hostility, There was no competitiveness. It was just
pure love. And it's so rare, I think in life
anyway to find someone like that, but from where we
come from even more rare. And it's just been the
most magical journey to actually share a career and share
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something that we love with the whole world and do
it sitting next to our best friend. It's just it's
been so magical and we're so grateful every time we
sit in that booth.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, that's beautiful because I mean listen, if figure
skating were warm and cozy, would melt the freaking ice. Yeah,
so it's okay. But also I think the reason why
people love you guys so much as a duo is
that you demonstrate this technical knowledge on top of being personalities,
which is something that you have to sort of account
for because the attention of the audience at home is
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and everyone in the room is on the activity. But
like you are literally adding color and depth and dimension
to what is going on and giving context in a
very important way. So I think the fact that people
have fallen in love with you beyond you know, the
technical precision of what you've done and demonstrating your careers
is sort of the special thing. But how did you
guys know to expand beyond figures? Kidding? Because talk about
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doing the Summer Olympics, talk about doing the derby, Like,
what how do you read?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That was a hot thing, wasn't it? It was a.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well what was so crazy is we didn't really expect this.
We went to Soji, we were in Russia. We af
our joining rooms, were having the time of our life.
We were on NBC Sports, which was, you know, not
the primetime show, so no one was really noticing us
while we were there. But one morning I looked at
Instagram and I was like, Johnny, things are happening. Like
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we barely understood it, of course, but but we realized that,
you know, oh, when we get back, things might be
a little different, and they were. We immediately sort of
got the spot as the new primetime commentators, and then
really the cherry on top for Johnny and I where
our careers together expanded was the offers and the opportunities
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to work with an NBC Sports at the Kentucky Derby,
the Super Bowl, the National Dog Show, and then beyond
that we we then got other opportunities which which we
didn't expect.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I mean, we hosted a Food.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Network show, we have done the creaz we show up
everywhere you think we should have, and.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Somehow we just have to learn and figure out what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
At the super Bowl, it was kind of the cutest thing.
So we went to the media day, which I think
we were both pretty unfamiliar with, and it's when the
players sit in their own little booths and the press
of the world travels around from booth to booth talking
to whomme Ever, and because we are so much like
slighter and tinier.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Than most wiled my way up, we.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Pushed a little bit. But then these other like very
kind of grizzled football reporters and people from the local beat, like,
we're not reporters. We're not used to like shuffling. We
get taken places we're just kind of like they opened
this little beautiful pathway and kind of pushed us forward.
Here's Rob Gronkowski, Here's Tom Brady. That it was just
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it was so fun and it's it's funny to see
the kind of people that react to us because being
from figure skating, it's a very niche world. And then
you know, I had my own reality show for a
long time and that was even more niche than Olympic
figure skating, And like there was all the stuff that
we've done, and like, I can be getting gas and
I was in La One was getting gas and a
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group of motorcyclists stopped to be like, I love you
and terror you guys are awesome. The reaction that we
get from from people, it's it's so overwhelming and so special.
And I think just the fact that we love having
fun and experiencing new things, and it's easy when we're
together because you know, I'm always going to be there
to support Tarran. She's always there for me. So we're
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not afraid to try things, and we find the fun
and the humor and everything that we do. And I
think that's that's why we keep going, That's why we
keep working and showing up at the super Bowl when
we shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I feel like it's so obvious how much fun you
guys are having. In one of the ways in which
that comes across most is obviously in the fashion. So
this is Milan, Okay, it's a fashion capital in a
major way. I want to know what we can expect.
But also how far in advance you started sourcing pieces,
(09:34):
getting everything together, coordinating, walk us through this process, so
you know.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
We are actually getting very good at this, you know,
twelve years in so the time is getting shorter in
prep just because we are like an old married couple
where we will show up and we showed up at
Traders and we weren't allowed to talk to each other there,
and we showed up in white and black like we
are just we it's telepathic. We kind of know what
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to do now, we know our colors, and so we'll
shop and we'll source, you know, a few months in advance,
and then we really do. It's no joke when we
bring like twenty suitcases, because we just bring everything because
then when we get to the hotel, we put it
all in our wardrobe bracs and we like to mix
a match and make sure that we are sharing some
similar elements in each each broadcast, and we do it there.
(10:27):
But I feel like this year, Johnny, we have one
fun look. We always do a gold look that we
look forward to, but we have a we have a Trader's.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Nod o going to you guys for this year. Yea
for one of the looks.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Osion on Traders giving fashion at the Olympics giving fashion.
It's going to be all about you too, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
We should just like wear a cloak one day.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
We should just just straight up both being cloaks.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I am faithful.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There's gonna be a current like space in Milan that
we will stick out for you and we will find
that turret for you.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I want to head out to this idea that like
you guys show up where you quote unquote like shouldn't be.
I think that is why I think the fact that
you guys stand out in this like outstanding way is
because I think even with figures, skitting is like a
niche thing. You guys really did like push things forward
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in terms of people like projecting certain ideas onto you,
right like Tara you as a teenager and Johnny you
as someone who was really pushing the boundary for like
what the visuals and the campiness and the fun of
what the sport could be. I think this is why
I mean, well, I should ask you guys, like, do
you guys think that's what's given you this instinct in
this maybe armor to like be in spaces like that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well, I think we both come not only just from
skating backgrounds, but we're both from Tara was born in Philly.
I'm from Amish country outside Philly. We come from a
similar place and we have very similar values, I think
in the way that we were raised, in the way
that we grew up, and there's just that natural way
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that we respond to one another just from humble upbringings.
And then as we got into sports, we were both
obviously very competitive Tara, you know, one so early and
there's such a drive that you have to have to
be able to accomplish that and hold all the pressure
of the world on your shoulders. And you know, in
my own way, I didn't win the Olympics like her,
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but in my own way, I dealt with a lot
of pressure, you know, to be the face of something
when all I was trying to do was to be
a skater and to be a great skater, and I
think figure skating and any professional level sport or Olympic
level sport, it forces you into being flawless. And I
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think that both of us having been raised up in that,
and like, you're not allowed to fail. There is no
opportunity to fall down. You cannot do something halfway. I
think that growing up in that gave us the opportunity
to as entertainers now and people that work in television now,
we can just try anything and take it on the chin,
and even if we're not rated it, we can laugh
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our way through it. And it's taken a long time
for me personally to learn how to do that, because
you know, to be a figure skater you have to
be a little bit of a perfectionist and a little
bit competitive at least. And I think that the way
that we embrace the world is often through hard work
and preparation, but with humor or what's the point? And yeah,
(13:47):
I think that that is similar to the way a
lot of people live their lives. There's so much pressure
on people to be great, to be perfect, to win
the bread, to hunt and gather, to do all of
those things. And sometimes you just you want to giggle
and you want to google with your friend, and it's
just so special that we have these abilities no matter
what they are, no matter what comes our way, know
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that we will show up, we will be ready, we
will be prepared, we will have worked hard and sparkly.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, I think also, Jay, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I think not only I think there's probably a few
things that go into it, but I think our friendship
and us being so in sync makes for a very
seamless banter and our organic banter. But I think beyond that,
it's kind of what you were saying about our sport,
and we were very we skid at different times, but
there was a lot of similarities throughout our careers that
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I think we both identify with and we have those
shared experiences, but just who we are as people, I
think both as you know, amateur skaters, we were very
authentic and we showed up as ourselves and we weren't
kind of afraid to ruffle feathers here and there and again.
In figure skating that's not always the norm, especially back then.
Now the sport is changing so much in in a
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really good way. But I think when we're in the
commentary booth. We always just felt like we have to
be our most authentic selves. We have to say what
we feel, whether it's for and you know, just for
the entertainment of it all and have fun, or to
call out a judging panel, and I think just being
on the same page in that way, it feels like
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a safe space that we're allowed.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, Tara, you mentioned that it's changed. I feel like
people outside of the sport would love to know what
you attribute that change too, in the attitude around the
sport within it, Well.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I think it's just a culture and over time that
will evolve and there will be people inside the sport
that are pushing those boundaries that eventually everyone will start
to accept and it becomes the norm. And I think
that that's what we're seeing now. We're seeing especially in
the women's event. I think it's incredible. We call them
the Big Three, that the three women going to the Olympics,
and they all have such different personalities as a bo
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Levedo is the perfectionist of the group, but very funny,
and then you have Amber Glenn who's had an incredible
journey and like one word to describe her is just
perseverance and authenticity, and she wears our heart on her sleeve,
and she talks about her mental health struggles and how
she's overcome all that or still tries to in this moment.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And then you have Alyssa.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Lou who is just so much fun pushing all the boundaries,
shows like dyes her hair every day and shows us
to practice late and is like this is who I am,
and this is what I want to ski too, and
this is the dress I'm gonna wear. And I think
that's great for the sport.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Absolutely. And before we wrap it up with some traders questions,
we have to our friend who grew up in Newark, Delaware,
wanted us to ask you, Tara, if you did indeed
train at the University of Delaware before Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
My god, you just you just you confirmed a lot
of lore because it was because it was it was
the scuttle button town just in Newark, Delaware.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
There was like Tara Lipinski's training here, and so I
think you you figure very heavily into that town. John
and I again all the Delaware and I.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But we were both there.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
We both so in our area, the University of Delaware
was the number one training facility for figure skating, and
it's still skating still like that. There will be huge
training bases in Montreal and Michigan and California, in New Jersey,
but you know, back in our time, it was Delaware
of all places, and my parents took me there because
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of people like Tara Lipinski that has been training there,
and the level of coaching was so high and the
level of skating was so high. And yeah, there's a
lot of people that have come through New York Delaware
more than you would expect.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, Okay, it's time for us to finally talk about
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the Olympics, by which I mean the Traders. So I
want to know as faithful's, which we can confirm you
are at least at this point. I love that you
both looked down a little bit, like you're both like, Okay,
NBC's watching, But when you're watching the show, something that
I never really think about until obviously I'm watching it
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is like, oh, all the Faithfuls are watching these conversations
in the turret for the first time. So I guess
what were your reactions at home watching both Alan's selection
of the Traders and these interactions between Rob, Candice and
Rinna which, by the way, an iconic three.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Well, it's so fascinating to watch it back, obviously iconic three.
I think that the choice of traders is top notch.
But Rob blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know, john He's incredible to.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Say when you're watching, because in the castle he was
just so laid back where I was like, maybe he
doesn't even want to play the.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Game, like he's just chilling, but he also.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Was invested at certain times, but just him this like
really helpful, like he was everyone in the castle just
adored Rob and it was It's hilarious the moment that.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
He was chosen, just to see him up there, and.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
And I'm like I knew, like I watched him play
chess because I thought it was weird.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But yeah, yeah, I was wondering you were right there.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
But I'm like, oh, Rob, I mean he might just
be teaching Lisa chess. But I mean there's a moment
you see on my face where I'm like, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Know how to play either of you know the rules?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I kept forgetting what I was doing. To be fair,
I was so and.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I think it's the word Johnny.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yes, yes, Like I was very worried before he went
because of like privacy and making keeping the game like
secret and all of that. There's no hair makeup, so
I was very worried about how I was going to
look because I'm not gifted to my hair and makeup.
So that was one thing. But then otherwise, like I
am so chill with people, like I accept you as
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you are. I'm a cancer, so like give me all
of your trauma, let me help you. Let like that's
that's my vibe. So in trying to stuss out, especially
from the beginning Candice, Rinna and Rob, I was just like,
I love everyone and everyone to win, but it's just
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it's such an overwhelming experience. And Tara and I watched
it back that's when we were commentating the US Nationals.
We stayed up until two in the morning watching the
three episodes after work, and it was just so funny
because there are so many moments that you're not in
the room for and the Congo line. I missed the
Congo line entirely. No idea where I was.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, I like a good good time too, Okay, Like
the thing about the castle is traumatizing and terrifying most
of the time, but at other times this cast was
so cool.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I think all of us got along so well for
the moment. It was hard.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
But but you know, congo line or dance party. I'm like,
any camp, you know, castle camp activity, like, let's have
some fun, let's do it up.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It didn't feel it didn't rub you. It didn't feel
weird too that she was just like out of nowhere
suggesting it. It was like, yeah, we line.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I did say maybe we do this tomorrow, but then
you hear me saying that because I'm like, this is
strange and it's late and I'm hired, but you know what,
if you're going to do the congo line, let.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Me get it once. Trek was all in too, like
we didn't have normal childhoods or proper childhoods in any way.
So anytime you give us like a ramhead Easter egg
hunt or a conga line, like, we're both gonna give
it our all because we didn't get to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
For sure, it's healing something from the past. I have
a very important question, which is how long is the
drive from the castle to where they put you up?
Which is not a product in secret now, I just
want to know how long.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Is that You're not wanted to say, they're not allowed
to say.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
They really can't say that. We're just like you guys
are good.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Well, we signed crazy das we can't tell anything. I
can't afford a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I was gonna say it. Now, I want to
know what does the NDA say? Can you say that,
what are you up against?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And we can tell you what happened that you.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Saw you can confirm our eyes were working.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You guys win the goal for abiding by the NDA. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, I guess one thing that we do know is
that you know, obviously you guys are an extremely well
known duo, and so your decision to act like you
were not very close. Were people sort of approaching you
being like, hey, why aren't you talking to your very
well known friend or did you just find that it
didn't come up?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well, Jay, I'll start this off and you can finish it.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
But I you know, Johnny and I knew we were
going to this together before we went did, and so
when we got there, I mean, our plan, what I
thought the plan we agreed the plan was just far
away and just hope somehow they think we work together.
But we're not that close, and you're we're in this
and we're competitive in our own right. So when Johnny
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the very first thing, you can kind of see it
when they it was such a quick clip, but he
comes up and I thought he was being way too friendly,
so I really give him the cold shoulder of like
nice to be sir, you know, like I And I
saw his little face after I know him so well,
and I saw his face where he's.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Like, Okay, I know where to go.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That thing is I'm really socially awkward and like I
like my people, and yeah, how to be outgoing and
stuff is just a very learned skill. So we I
don't think tee, we never assume anyone knows who we are.
And I think it's just again because of the way
we were raised and who we are, I'm not going
to assume anything. We're going to be humble about and
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if someone does know, but if they don't know, we're
also not going to be upset about it. And with
that said, I never know who anyone is. I really
don't follow pop culture a lot, and I don't have
time to be fair. And we showed up and I
knew Tara obviously, and I knew she was going to
be there, and we had interviewed Eric Nahm for a
(24:23):
piece on K pop during the Olympics in tung Cheng,
so we knew him, but he had to remind me
that I knew him. Otherwise I was just like, they're
also pretty and loud, Like what am I going.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
To do for?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Like obviously we knew like Lisa Rinna, but I've never
watched housewisee.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I know who rob what I had, No, we had
no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I think I got you getting a lot is about
Rappapor because like when you're there, you don't have access
to your phone or the Internet and things like that,
so I couldn't even like google people. And I didn't
know how divisive he was because I take everyone at
face value and you shake my hand, that's when I
kind of make my judgment about you. So we didn't
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have any background information about anyone. And like since I've
been home and people have seen the first three episodes,
they're all like, how did you handle him? I'm like,
I just thought he was loud, but I didn't realize
this kind of reputation.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well pretty quickly. He I feel like divided the room
within the traders anyway, so you know, he he tips
himself off.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So but out of everyone, was there one person that
you actually were starstruck by, even if you don't follow
two things many that much.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, I didn't know anyone, honestly, Like, I didn't know
he know if I should be starstruckt or not, because
I know I'm right of the show, and I know
there's a lot of like Housewives and gamers, and I've
never watched an episode of Survivor or a Big Brother
in my life, so as huge as they are in
their communities, I had no idea I was. I'd known
Alan coming before in the city and was like, not
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starstruck by him. I want to see what it was wearing,
but I knew him. A castle was very impressive, and
like driving up to it for the first time, I
was pretty starstruck by the castle, I can say. But
everyone else, like I just met them as regular people,
not as huge stars in their own realms.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
You probably ask, So what I think was cool is
that because Johnny and I don't watch a lot of
reality television that we really I was talking to Canvas
about that I really bonded with her and I don't
know anything about her history on Housewives any storylines. I
don't know anything, So I just know who I met,
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the human in front of me that I, you know,
grew a friendship with and and now we talk about
our babies. And I still haven't watched any of the shows,
and I don't think I need to. I just I
like the friendships that I made in the castle and
in that way.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And I mean we knew we kind of knew of
Mark Ballast because I did Dancing with the Stars, but
not the season that he He was on a break
that season, and I quickly fell in love with Candace
and Caroline and I was just trying to be as
as chilling justice.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, coolest, the best vibe. Well, I think the
moral of this is that Eric Knahm had to give
you Actually we've met Johnny, so that's.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's very cool.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He ran up all outside the castle, right, and it
was just a cluster of people in cool outfits and
he ran up and instead of saying Johnny, it's so
good to see you, he said, Johnny we worked together
when we did that piece for the Olympics in Korea.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I'm Eric reminder. That's how he's so cute. He's so
say the best, the best. Well, thank you so much
for joining us, for giving us your time. You guys
are very busy right now. We'll see you in Milan.
Hopefully we're going to be watching. We'll hang, we'll get
a we'll get a cocktail. I feel like this is
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a this is a force, something that needs to happen.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
We're working so we can have like a butter for
some posts that we can.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Wine.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, I'll have dinner with you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It's heart healthy.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There a stirring conversation.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Truly, they were willing to get into it with us
about Trader stuff. I'm truly as much as they could,
as much as they could.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know, I'm interested. I love hearing how the faithfuls
feel when the Traders are revealed on television. It's a
whole other show they haven't even seen, of course, fascinating,
fascinating stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
They're legends. I am genuinely so excited to hear them
talk talk talk and come out and looks, looks, looks.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And I'm excited to flag them down for a glass
of wine on the ground in Milan.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
On the ground and means gonna happen, and we'll have
a French wine.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, a French wine in Italy. Not an Italian You're
so subversive.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Problem knows.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Anyway, whatever we drink, we'll be sure to tell you
all about it on the next episode of Two Guys
Five Rings.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It might not be the next one, it might be another.
We don't know when that's We don't know. We might
forget about we might forget to mention it.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
At some point, you'll either hear from us or you won't.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And that's just how life is, That's just how all
communication is. Really. Yeah, I can't guarantee that you'll hear
from me ever again. After today.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I would be sad. Ultimately, I'd get over it because
I'd have to write, but it would be hard to.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Lose you bo I agree.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Dude, Dude, do do
Ring Ring, Ring Ring Ring.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That was a new melody we found.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I like it, ring Ring, Ring, Ring Ring. It can
mean anything, and it is five No, it's five syllables.
It's five opportunities for or more opportunities for melody.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And that's on music now today. We're here to talk
about sports though, because this is the two Guys Five
Rings podcast, and I'm Matt Rogers.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm Bowen Yang. Would you say music is the opposite
of sports.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I would no, theater is the opposite of sports.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I don't know. Theater and sports are kind of similar
where it's just people watching.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, here's the thing. Theater really does meet sports when
we discuss a certain dynamic duo that's get this on
our show today. Yes, there is another Olympics duo that's
not us. I don't know whether it be threatened or welcoming.
I guess because they're on the show, we should choose
the latter.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We should choose the ladder and welcome. Then they are
our guests. We're not gonna We're not gonna threaten. It's
gonna be a nice moment. We don't want to be.
I don't know a judge, Judy, now that woman she
brings people into her show and then she's rude to them.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
She really is a very judgmental person. But I guess
that's sort of the whole thing with being a judge,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'd go, oh, Judge Shineland, have some respect for yourself.
I'm not gonna call you by your first name. I
don't know you like that. Oh wow, yeah, Shindlin. I
forget about the Shindlin of it all. I happen to
like that name, Judge, Judy Shineler and Judy Shine, you
know what are great last names as well? What Lipinski
and Weird?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I can't think of better. Rogers and Yang get Bent,
get Ben, get Bent seriously seriously sick of us. Anyway,
Luckily these two are going to be all over our
screens for the next I guess, hopefully the hope they
make it very far. On Traders, we don't yet know, yes,
but I will say that they are on traders. They
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are Olympians themselves. They are commentating, which is different than judging.
In fact, they often commentate on the.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Judging, which is very valuable. It's the checks and balances
of the Olympics, as it were.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And here they are the one, the only, or should
we say the two and only, the two and only
Tylinsky and Johnny weird enjoy Well, well, well look who
it is?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Another pair, another iconic pair. We've got Tarylepinsky and Johnny.
We're with us.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thanks for joining, so excited to be Thank you guys
for having us listen.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We did need someone, anyone with any expertise about winter
sports to come beyond this podcast because it is not us.
So thank you so much for throwing us a life raft.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're here to help.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
We're right, So explain the concept of winter for everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, in hockey, they wear pads for winter.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh that's the main thing that we need to know.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Padding of course, so you guys are obviously I think
it's sort of like changed commentating when you guys like
decided to team up. Was that an idea that you
guys had about each other or was it sort of
was there a chemistry? Read like, how did it happen
that you guys came to be?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
It was really kismet because I was commentating at the
women's event and Johnny was commentating the men's event, and
we were doing it separately, and of course, you know
skating is a very small world, so I knew of Johnny,
but we never really had a lot of interactions. We
skated at different times and competed at different times. But
we were in NBC Sports studios and waiting to do
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our respective commentaries that night, and we were sitting in
a hallway on the with our bags next to each other,
and we just started talking about our handbags and I
was like, this is my best friend. I don't know
where he's been, but this is my soulmate in life,
and I love you, and pretty much we chatted and
by the end of that conversation, we said we need
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to pitch NBC that we commentate together.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And this was right before the twenty fourteen Olympics. Oh
my goodness, it's been crazy over a decade. And we
then did a little audition.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh there was an audition.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
There was an audition, and I think we nailed it.
And then we moved on to So Cheap.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And the thing is about like where we both come from.
Obviously we share a past as figure skaters and elite athletes,
and figure skating has a bad reputation for not being
the warmest and coziest of environments because it's not like football,
where you have a game every single weekend to prove yourself,
really get one chance in front of the world. So
that ultimately creates a culture where it's so competitive and
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you don't want to trust anyone because they might stand
in your path. And for some reason, when Tara and
I met, I didn't feel any of that. I didn't
feel any hostility, There was no competitiveness. It was just
pure love. And it's so rare, I think in life
anyway to find someone like that, but from where we
come from even more rare. And it's just been the
most magical journey to actually share a career and share
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something that we love with the whole world and do
it sitting next to our best friend. It's just it's
been so magical and we're so grateful every time we
sit in that booth.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, that's beautiful because I mean listen, if figure
skating were warm and cozy, would melt the freaking ice. Yeah,
so it's okay. But also I think the reason why
people love you guys so much as a duo is
that you demonstrate this technical knowledge on top of being personalities,
which is something that you have to sort of account
for because the attention of the audience at home is
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and everyone in the room is on the activity. But
like you are literally adding color and depth and dimension
to what is going on and giving context in a
very important way. So I think the fact that people
have fallen in love with you beyond you know, the
technical precision of what you've done and demonstrating your careers
is sort of the special thing. But how did you
guys know to expand beyond figures? Kidding? Because talk about
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doing the Summer Olympics, talk about doing the derby, Like,
what how do you read?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That was a hot thing, wasn't it? It was a.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well what was so crazy is we didn't really expect this.
We went to Soji, we were in Russia. We af
our joining rooms, were having the time of our life.
We were on NBC Sports, which was, you know, not
the primetime show, so no one was really noticing us
while we were there. But one morning I looked at
Instagram and I was like, Johnny, things are happening. Like
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we barely understood it, of course, but but we realized that,
you know, oh, when we get back, things might be
a little different, and they were. We immediately sort of
got the spot as the new primetime commentators, and then
really the cherry on top for Johnny and I where
our careers together expanded was the offers and the opportunities
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to work with an NBC Sports at the Kentucky Derby,
the Super Bowl, the National Dog Show, and then beyond
that we we then got other opportunities which which we
didn't expect.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I mean, we hosted a Food.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Network show, we have done the creaz we show up
everywhere you think we should have, and.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Somehow we just have to learn and figure out what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
At the super Bowl, it was kind of the cutest thing.
So we went to the media day, which I think
we were both pretty unfamiliar with, and it's when the
players sit in their own little booths and the press
of the world travels around from booth to booth talking
to whomme Ever, and because we are so much like
slighter and tinier.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Than most wiled my way up, we.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Pushed a little bit. But then these other like very
kind of grizzled football reporters and people from the local beat, like,
we're not reporters. We're not used to like shuffling. We
get taken places we're just kind of like they opened
this little beautiful pathway and kind of pushed us forward.
Here's Rob Gronkowski, Here's Tom Brady. That it was just
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it was so fun and it's it's funny to see
the kind of people that react to us because being
from figure skating, it's a very niche world. And then
you know, I had my own reality show for a
long time and that was even more niche than Olympic
figure skating, And like there was all the stuff that
we've done, and like, I can be getting gas and
I was in La One was getting gas and a
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group of motorcyclists stopped to be like, I love you
and terror you guys are awesome. The reaction that we
get from from people, it's it's so overwhelming and so special.
And I think just the fact that we love having
fun and experiencing new things, and it's easy when we're
together because you know, I'm always going to be there
to support Tarran. She's always there for me. So we're
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not afraid to try things, and we find the fun
and the humor and everything that we do. And I
think that's that's why we keep going, That's why we
keep working and showing up at the super Bowl when
we shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I feel like it's so obvious how much fun you
guys are having. In one of the ways in which
that comes across most is obviously in the fashion. So
this is Milan, Okay, it's a fashion capital in a
major way. I want to know what we can expect.
But also how far in advance you started sourcing pieces,
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getting everything together, coordinating, walk us through this process, so
you know.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
We are actually getting very good at this, you know,
twelve years in so the time is getting shorter in
prep just because we are like an old married couple
where we will show up and we showed up at
Traders and we weren't allowed to talk to each other there,
and we showed up in white and black like we
are just we it's telepathic. We kind of know what
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to do now, we know our colors, and so we'll
shop and we'll source, you know, a few months in advance,
and then we really do. It's no joke when we
bring like twenty suitcases, because we just bring everything because
then when we get to the hotel, we put it
all in our wardrobe bracs and we like to mix
a match and make sure that we are sharing some
similar elements in each each broadcast, and we do it there.
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But I feel like this year, Johnny, we have one
fun look. We always do a gold look that we
look forward to, but we have a we have a Trader's.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Nod o going to you guys for this year. Yea
for one of the looks.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Osion on Traders giving fashion at the Olympics giving fashion.
It's going to be all about you too, Johnny.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
We should just like wear a cloak one day.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
We should just just straight up both being cloaks.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I am faithful.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There's gonna be a current like space in Milan that
we will stick out for you and we will find
that turret for you.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I want to head out to this idea that like
you guys show up where you quote unquote like shouldn't be.
I think that is why I think the fact that
you guys stand out in this like outstanding way is
because I think even with figures, skitting is like a
niche thing. You guys really did like push things forward
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in terms of people like projecting certain ideas onto you,
right like Tara you as a teenager and Johnny you
as someone who was really pushing the boundary for like
what the visuals and the campiness and the fun of
what the sport could be. I think this is why
I mean, well, I should ask you guys, like, do
you guys think that's what's given you this instinct in
this maybe armor to like be in spaces like that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well, I think we both come not only just from
skating backgrounds, but we're both from Tara was born in Philly.
I'm from Amish country outside Philly. We come from a
similar place and we have very similar values, I think
in the way that we were raised, in the way
that we grew up, and there's just that natural way
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that we respond to one another just from humble upbringings.
And then as we got into sports, we were both
obviously very competitive Tara, you know, one so early and
there's such a drive that you have to have to
be able to accomplish that and hold all the pressure
of the world on your shoulders. And you know, in
my own way, I didn't win the Olympics like her,
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but in my own way, I dealt with a lot
of pressure, you know, to be the face of something
when all I was trying to do was to be
a skater and to be a great skater, and I
think figure skating and any professional level sport or Olympic
level sport, it forces you into being flawless. And I
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think that both of us having been raised up in that,
and like, you're not allowed to fail. There is no
opportunity to fall down. You cannot do something halfway. I
think that growing up in that gave us the opportunity
to as entertainers now and people that work in television now,
we can just try anything and take it on the chin,
and even if we're not rated it, we can laugh
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our way through it. And it's taken a long time
for me personally to learn how to do that, because
you know, to be a figure skater you have to
be a little bit of a perfectionist and a little
bit competitive at least. And I think that the way
that we embrace the world is often through hard work
and preparation, but with humor or what's the point? And yeah,
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I think that that is similar to the way a
lot of people live their lives. There's so much pressure
on people to be great, to be perfect, to win
the bread, to hunt and gather, to do all of
those things. And sometimes you just you want to giggle
and you want to google with your friend, and it's
just so special that we have these abilities no matter
what they are, no matter what comes our way, know
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that we will show up, we will be ready, we
will be prepared, we will have worked hard and sparkly.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, I think also, Jay, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I think not only I think there's probably a few
things that go into it, but I think our friendship
and us being so in sync makes for a very
seamless banter and our organic banter. But I think beyond that,
it's kind of what you were saying about our sport,
and we were very we skid at different times, but
there was a lot of similarities throughout our careers that
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I think we both identify with and we have those
shared experiences, but just who we are as people, I
think both as you know, amateur skaters, we were very
authentic and we showed up as ourselves and we weren't
kind of afraid to ruffle feathers here and there and again.
In figure skating that's not always the norm, especially back then.
Now the sport is changing so much in in a
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really good way. But I think when we're in the
commentary booth. We always just felt like we have to
be our most authentic selves. We have to say what
we feel, whether it's for and you know, just for
the entertainment of it all and have fun, or to
call out a judging panel, and I think just being
on the same page in that way, it feels like
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a safe space that we're allowed.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, Tara, you mentioned that it's changed. I feel like
people outside of the sport would love to know what
you attribute that change too, in the attitude around the
sport within it, Well.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I think it's just a culture and over time that
will evolve and there will be people inside the sport
that are pushing those boundaries that eventually everyone will start
to accept and it becomes the norm. And I think
that that's what we're seeing now. We're seeing especially in
the women's event. I think it's incredible. We call them
the Big Three, that the three women going to the Olympics,
and they all have such different personalities as a bo
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Levedo is the perfectionist of the group, but very funny,
and then you have Amber Glenn who's had an incredible
journey and like one word to describe her is just
perseverance and authenticity, and she wears our heart on her sleeve,
and she talks about her mental health struggles and how
she's overcome all that or still tries to in this moment.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And then you have Alyssa.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Lou who is just so much fun pushing all the boundaries,
shows like dyes her hair every day and shows us
to practice late and is like this is who I am,
and this is what I want to ski too, and
this is the dress I'm gonna wear. And I think
that's great for the sport.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Absolutely. And before we wrap it up with some traders questions,
we have to our friend who grew up in Newark, Delaware,
wanted us to ask you, Tara, if you did indeed
train at the University of Delaware before Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
My god, you just you just you confirmed a lot
of lore because it was because it was it was
the scuttle button town just in Newark, Delaware.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
There was like Tara Lipinski's training here, and so I
think you you figure very heavily into that town. John
and I again all the Delaware and I.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But we were both there.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
We both so in our area, the University of Delaware
was the number one training facility for figure skating, and
it's still skating still like that. There will be huge
training bases in Montreal and Michigan and California, in New Jersey,
but you know, back in our time, it was Delaware
of all places, and my parents took me there because
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of people like Tara Lipinski that has been training there,
and the level of coaching was so high and the
level of skating was so high. And yeah, there's a
lot of people that have come through New York Delaware
more than you would expect.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, Okay, it's time for us to finally talk about
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the Olympics, by which I mean the Traders. So I
want to know as faithful's, which we can confirm you
are at least at this point. I love that you
both looked down a little bit, like you're both like, Okay,
NBC's watching, But when you're watching the show, something that
I never really think about until obviously I'm watching it
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is like, oh, all the Faithfuls are watching these conversations
in the turret for the first time. So I guess
what were your reactions at home watching both Alan's selection
of the Traders and these interactions between Rob, Candice and
Rinna which, by the way, an iconic three.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Well, it's so fascinating to watch it back, obviously iconic three.
I think that the choice of traders is top notch.
But Rob blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know, john He's incredible to.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Say when you're watching, because in the castle he was
just so laid back where I was like, maybe he
doesn't even want to play the.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Game, like he's just chilling, but he also.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Was invested at certain times, but just him this like
really helpful, like he was everyone in the castle just
adored Rob and it was It's hilarious the moment that.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
He was chosen, just to see him up there, and.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
And I'm like I knew, like I watched him play
chess because I thought it was weird.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But yeah, yeah, I was wondering you were right there.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
But I'm like, oh, Rob, I mean he might just
be teaching Lisa chess. But I mean there's a moment
you see on my face where I'm like, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Know how to play either of you know the rules?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I kept forgetting what I was doing. To be fair,
I was so and.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I think it's the word Johnny.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yes, yes, Like I was very worried before he went
because of like privacy and making keeping the game like
secret and all of that. There's no hair makeup, so
I was very worried about how I was going to
look because I'm not gifted to my hair and makeup.
So that was one thing. But then otherwise, like I
am so chill with people, like I accept you as
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you are. I'm a cancer, so like give me all
of your trauma, let me help you. Let like that's
that's my vibe. So in trying to stuss out, especially
from the beginning Candice, Rinna and Rob, I was just like,
I love everyone and everyone to win, but it's just
(20:34):
it's such an overwhelming experience. And Tara and I watched
it back that's when we were commentating the US Nationals.
We stayed up until two in the morning watching the
three episodes after work, and it was just so funny
because there are so many moments that you're not in
the room for and the Congo line. I missed the
Congo line entirely. No idea where I was.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, I like a good good time too, Okay, Like
the thing about the castle is traumatizing and terrifying most
of the time, but at other times this cast was
so cool.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I think all of us got along so well for
the moment. It was hard.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
But but you know, congo line or dance party. I'm like,
any camp, you know, castle camp activity, like, let's have
some fun, let's do it up.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It didn't feel it didn't rub you. It didn't feel
weird too that she was just like out of nowhere
suggesting it. It was like, yeah, we line.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I did say maybe we do this tomorrow, but then
you hear me saying that because I'm like, this is
strange and it's late and I'm hired, but you know what,
if you're going to do the congo line, let.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Me get it once. Trek was all in too, like
we didn't have normal childhoods or proper childhoods in any way.
So anytime you give us like a ramhead Easter egg
hunt or a conga line, like, we're both gonna give
it our all because we didn't get to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
For sure, it's healing something from the past. I have
a very important question, which is how long is the
drive from the castle to where they put you up?
Which is not a product in secret now, I just
want to know how long.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Is that You're not wanted to say, they're not allowed
to say.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
They really can't say that. We're just like you guys
are good.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Well, we signed crazy das we can't tell anything. I
can't afford a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I was gonna say it. Now, I want to
know what does the NDA say? Can you say that,
what are you up against?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And we can tell you what happened that you.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Saw you can confirm our eyes were working.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You guys win the goal for abiding by the NDA. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, I guess one thing that we do know is
that you know, obviously you guys are an extremely well
known duo, and so your decision to act like you
were not very close. Were people sort of approaching you
being like, hey, why aren't you talking to your very
well known friend or did you just find that it
didn't come up?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well, Jay, I'll start this off and you can finish it.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
But I you know, Johnny and I knew we were
going to this together before we went did, and so
when we got there, I mean, our plan, what I
thought the plan we agreed the plan was just far
away and just hope somehow they think we work together.
But we're not that close, and you're we're in this
and we're competitive in our own right. So when Johnny
(23:22):
the very first thing, you can kind of see it
when they it was such a quick clip, but he
comes up and I thought he was being way too friendly,
so I really give him the cold shoulder of like
nice to be sir, you know, like I And I
saw his little face after I know him so well,
and I saw his face where he's.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Like, Okay, I know where to go.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That thing is I'm really socially awkward and like I
like my people, and yeah, how to be outgoing and
stuff is just a very learned skill. So we I
don't think tee, we never assume anyone knows who we are.
And I think it's just again because of the way
we were raised and who we are, I'm not going
to assume anything. We're going to be humble about and
(24:00):
if someone does know, but if they don't know, we're
also not going to be upset about it. And with
that said, I never know who anyone is. I really
don't follow pop culture a lot, and I don't have
time to be fair. And we showed up and I
knew Tara obviously, and I knew she was going to
be there, and we had interviewed Eric Nahm for a
(24:23):
piece on K pop during the Olympics in tung Cheng,
so we knew him, but he had to remind me
that I knew him. Otherwise I was just like, they're
also pretty and loud, Like what am I going.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
To do for?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Like obviously we knew like Lisa Rinna, but I've never
watched housewisee.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I know who rob what I had, No, we had
no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I think I got you getting a lot is about
Rappapor because like when you're there, you don't have access
to your phone or the Internet and things like that,
so I couldn't even like google people. And I didn't
know how divisive he was because I take everyone at
face value and you shake my hand, that's when I
kind of make my judgment about you. So we didn't
(25:08):
have any background information about anyone. And like since I've
been home and people have seen the first three episodes,
they're all like, how did you handle him? I'm like,
I just thought he was loud, but I didn't realize
this kind of reputation.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well pretty quickly. He I feel like divided the room
within the traders anyway, so you know, he he tips
himself off.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So but out of everyone, was there one person that
you actually were starstruck by, even if you don't follow
two things many that much.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, I didn't know anyone, honestly, Like, I didn't know
he know if I should be starstruckt or not, because
I know I'm right of the show, and I know
there's a lot of like Housewives and gamers, and I've
never watched an episode of Survivor or a Big Brother
in my life, so as huge as they are in
their communities, I had no idea I was. I'd known
Alan coming before in the city and was like, not
(26:06):
starstruck by him. I want to see what it was wearing,
but I knew him. A castle was very impressive, and
like driving up to it for the first time, I
was pretty starstruck by the castle, I can say. But
everyone else, like I just met them as regular people,
not as huge stars in their own realms.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
You probably ask, So what I think was cool is
that because Johnny and I don't watch a lot of
reality television that we really I was talking to Canvas
about that I really bonded with her and I don't
know anything about her history on Housewives any storylines. I
don't know anything, So I just know who I met,
(26:44):
the human in front of me that I, you know,
grew a friendship with and and now we talk about
our babies. And I still haven't watched any of the shows,
and I don't think I need to. I just I
like the friendships that I made in the castle and
in that way.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And I mean we knew we kind of knew of
Mark Ballast because I did Dancing with the Stars, but
not the season that he He was on a break
that season, and I quickly fell in love with Candace
and Caroline and I was just trying to be as
as chilling justice.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, coolest, the best vibe. Well, I think the
moral of this is that Eric Knahm had to give
you Actually we've met Johnny, so that's.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's very cool.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He ran up all outside the castle, right, and it
was just a cluster of people in cool outfits and
he ran up and instead of saying Johnny, it's so
good to see you, he said, Johnny we worked together
when we did that piece for the Olympics in Korea.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I'm Eric reminder. That's how he's so cute. He's so
say the best, the best. Well, thank you so much
for joining us, for giving us your time. You guys
are very busy right now. We'll see you in Milan.
Hopefully we're going to be watching. We'll hang, we'll get
a we'll get a cocktail. I feel like this is
(28:07):
a this is a force, something that needs to happen.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
We're working so we can have like a butter for
some posts that we can.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Wine.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, I'll have dinner with you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It's heart healthy.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There a stirring conversation.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Truly, they were willing to get into it with us
about Trader stuff. I'm truly as much as they could,
as much as they could.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know, I'm interested. I love hearing how the faithfuls
feel when the Traders are revealed on television. It's a
whole other show they haven't even seen, of course, fascinating,
fascinating stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
They're legends. I am genuinely so excited to hear them
talk talk talk and come out and looks, looks, looks.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And I'm excited to flag them down for a glass
of wine on the ground in Milan.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
On the ground and means gonna happen, and we'll have
a French wine.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, a French wine in Italy. Not an Italian You're
so subversive.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Problem knows.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Anyway, whatever we drink, we'll be sure to tell you
all about it on the next episode of Two Guys
Five Rings.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It might not be the next one, it might be another.
We don't know when that's We don't know. We might
forget about we might forget to mention it.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
At some point, you'll either hear from us or you won't.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And that's just how life is, That's just how all
communication is. Really. Yeah, I can't guarantee that you'll hear
from me ever again. After today.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I would be sad. Ultimately, I'd get over it because
I'd have to write, but it would be hard to.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Lose you bo I agree.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Dude, Dude, do do
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