November 26, 2025 • 31 mins
Jessi’s taking her affair to a whole new level. Does she care more about making good TV over sustaining a happy marriage? What does she see in Marciano?!
And, we finally catch a glimpse of Demi. She’s showing off her ChatGPT texts and threatening to go live to spill Jessi’s affair. We have thoughts…
Plus, Layla’s getting messy this season! But, does messy = scripted in this case? Who are our MVP Dadtok and Momtok members at this point?!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas and a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, and
we are recapping secret lives of Mormon Wives Season three,
Episode three and episode of four.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
First, can we play a game?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What housewife hasn't been arrested? Can you name them?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Me?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Me too?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's crazy, this is getting insane, this is getting out
of control, like Potomac. We got three down of.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Potomac, three down, Mia, Karen, and Wendy.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
This is it's a lot. It is a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's like every day you're waking up and it's like
what's next.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm like, Who's Who's.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm just gonna stay home today.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm just gonna stay home. I don't want to do anything,
afraid I'm gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I can't imagine it's getting in trouble for any of
the things.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well not those things.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So this episode, if I never hear the name Marciano again,
it'll be too soon.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Him in his cum spots. I just can't.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I can't, no, no, Well, it starts out with Macy
and MICHAELA continued their conversation with Marciano. Marciano says that
Demi told him to tell everyone that he slept with Jesse.
He also told them that he kissed me in the villa.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, first of all, where are they? They're like in
a log cabin in Las Vegas?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Is that his house? No?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm like, I've never seen this area of Las Vegas.
It's all like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It was weird. It's not in Vegas. I think it's
in between.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh I thought they met at in Vegas because he
lived there.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No, they they drove like four or five hours. Isn't
that how long it takes its Vegas?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it's only supposed to could take them two and
a half hour, but they had to stop to pee
on themselves multiple times. They've met in beaver Utah.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh okay, So Demi behind the scenes is doing all this,
but yet she made out with him too, and she's married.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I mean, it's all too much for me to even
take in. And I also don't know why we're believing this.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Guy at all.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I don't know why he's on our screen.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But can we get him on the podcast. I want
to hear it all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Marciano Cherry or whatever his name is. Well, then Jordan
tells Zach about the affair. I just want to point
out that Jordan is telling Zach while wearing a dad
Talk merch hat hat they had shirts. But are you
happy to know that Marciano doesn't.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Have edi A reck style dysfunction.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, he made that clear. He made that clear, and
he was talking. He's like, they were like, why are
you taking that pill? Well, I don't have a rectil dysfunction.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
He said, I just had stage fright.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
What guy has stage fright? Come on, the.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Guy that's boning as much as he's supposedly boning has
stage fright.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't find Taylor. I'm what Taylor. I don't find him.
I don't find him hot. No, I don't see Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Cracks me up.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
She's like, yeah, I get it now, Yeah, I get
why they're all into him. She's like, no, I don't, No,
actually I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't get it at all.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But Zach tells Jordan that it will get worse before
it gets better because the public opinions after the show airs.
He didn't know if Jen's relationship would survive. When going
through their problems, Jordan said he is willing to take
responsibility for mistakes he has made in order to make
things work.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Remind me what Jen and Sach's problem were. Is he
the one that was looking at porn or something?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He's the one that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Like flipped out when she went to Chippendale's remember it
and then?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But there was bigger problems than that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, but he like was like, what kind of wife
are you? You're disgusting? Like I'm paraphrasing, but Whitney's husband
was the one who was looking at porn.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh that's right, Okay, So I will say that Zach
had good advice for Jordan, much different than when he
talked to Dakota. Dakota's like, wow, man, and Zach's like,
you know, how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
How you're going to move forward?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You know, He's asking all the right questions and talking
to him. The Dakota's like, I'm just here to look hot.
We've had baby blue as dark.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Hair minor blue. He said that later in the episode.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, there was his minor green.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But Jordan is can absolutely convince that they did not
have sex.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, I think he's probably just saying that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, do you think if.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The pill worked, they wouldn't That's why Wait, if the
pill would have worked, do.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You why would a pill not work?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Because they passed out beforehand because he was drunk and
then took the pill, and then he tried to get
hard and then couldn't, and then they fell asleep.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But they were just dry humping.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
They were bed jumping better than bed rotting.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well, I mean, can you even soak when somebody soft?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh god, I mean it was no, It's like putting
mashed potatoes and.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, Oh my gosh. But this whole thing is just
getting so blown out of proportion because I just don't
believe this guy. I don't believe one word this guy says,
whether he's taking a lie detector test or not. Then
Tom and Camille show up to this acta event. Layla
tells to me that they know she tried to conspire
(05:58):
with Marciano shows Leayla text between her and Marciana as proof,
but Leaila is confused on why she keeps getting involved.
Layla calls Jesse while Demi is right next to her,
and Jesse is upset because she feels like the phone
call was blind siding to me, then runs off, threatens
to go live on instant and tell everyone about Jesse's affair.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Oh we have involved.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We got a lot to talk about. Damn me.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Like she's not doing herself any favors, especially by saying
she's gonna go live and then to say she doesn't
want to get it goes crazy. Says she doesn't want
to get involved, but yet the text messages between her
and Marciano are NonStop.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
She's scrolling and scrolling.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is like GPT, I mean, how who writes those long
of text messages? Me points, Yeah, we write a couple
of sentences here and there, and that's like a major feat.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But she's like, I don't want to get involved.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Then she reads something that makes her look like she's
getting involved.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Her text with Jessee were just as long.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Nobody texts me like that. Okay, I'm not have that
much to say. Just pick up the phone and call me.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, even if you're blocked, like you know, I.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Might not have my readers on, I won't be able
to see. It'll give me a headache, Like, just call me.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm not that interested in anything anybody has to say.
If it needs to take that many words, right, But
I think the move here would have been for Leila
to call Marciana with Demi there. That would have been
the move if she was going to do one. Even
though yeah, but I think her talent. I just Leayla
(07:32):
is messy this season and she doesn't care what she
has to do.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Do you remember when we interviewed her after our interviewed
a bunch of them after season two and they were
already in season three, and we said something like, I
feel like you need to get more involved. She's like,
wait till next season. Well, here it is, and she's involved.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
She's involved.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Then the girls all decide they're going to go so
but they're at this jet, but then they don't take
the jet anywhere, which I was can used by.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think it was just like an event thing right
out A Jess hanger is like at a hanger, it's
kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I thought, yeah, if you're gonna fly somewhere after, but
if not, like I don't need to go to the
airport to hang out.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I don't know if it was actually a airport
or just just like a museum almost where planes are
just parked in there.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Well that I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who do you think the mole is. I think I
figured it out.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I think I think it's Marciano.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I think Jesse is telling Marciano's stuff and Marciana was
telling Demi stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's that's probably a good thing, because you can tell
by way the way they're talking they haven't stopped talking,
and the smiles and the outfits and all the things.
But first the girls decided to go on a trip
to Saint George. They say, man in Utah. They don't
go very far, do they. Miranda is officially back in
(08:57):
mom Talk, but like, when did she leave?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
She's been there the whole time.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I don't think they actually she was.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
She came back last season, right, yeah, but I don't
think she was actually back in mom Talk.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh okay, So she's had to work her way back
by not showing, by showing she's not the male. But
then Jesse says she feels betrayed by Marciano because he lied,
but she wants to talk to him because she feels
like she needs closure. The girls are confused why she
wants to see him?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You know what? So am I? So am? I?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, I don't know I just want to say, no, girl, no,
you don't want to sit down with him.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
He's trying to destroy your life publicly, Like why would
you give.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Him the time?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The sitting down and the light detector test is one thing,
but the dinner is a completely other thing.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh yeah, I have a lot to say about that.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah. So then we see Jen learning about the affair.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Jen feels like Jesse gaslighted her by calling her a liar.
Even though Jesse was hiding all these secrets behind closed doors.
They might as well be on Housewives they kind of are. Yeah,
And then Jesse asked Marciano to take the light detector
with her. According to the light detector, Demi and Marciano
didn't have sex. According to the light detector, it's inconclusive
(10:15):
that Jesse and Marciana I did have sexual contact. I'm
going to need all reality show producers to knock it
off with the light detector test.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, here's the thing with a light detector test. Now,
this lady did not want to be shown on camera.
She said, no cameras to be in there. She also
said after the test has taken it takes an hour
and a half to get the results back. This is
how I know that this one is semi you know,
MORI legit? Yeah, because our light detector test we took
all of us, went in and out, in and out,
in and out.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There was what six seven of us and then our
results came back like that.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And from what Dolores had told me, because her father
is a chief of police or something like that, he
said he was in the background when we were talking
about this and he said, absolutely not possible to get
accurately from how it was done on Orange County. So
it just goes to prove it was not accurate.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, and wasn't done properly.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
How about Jesse like fixing herself in the mirror because
Marciana's coming and he's walking in with flowers.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'm like, no, I walk in with flowers. Why was
she getting herself all dulled up?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like she's like making sure she looks good. The chemistry
between them is so obvious. The camera does not lie.
It's quite clear that they still have feelings for each
other and they're flirting on camera, Like does she think
this is going to help? And when her husband saw it,
he I don't even if they're still together. I mean
it had to have pissed him off.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Had it pissed me off?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And of all the outfits to wear, all the things,
it's not one thing did she do is write in
this episode?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So why is she being sweet to him and telling
him like, I'm separated now and.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This guy tried to destroy your marriage.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Because clearly she is interested in him.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean clearly.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean she's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean, poor Michaela.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Did you notice, like I know she's Mikayla has the
autoimmune issues, right, Yeah, she was scratching. It seemed like
her neck was swollen.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Oh, I wonder it's coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Oh I felt bad for her.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Probably the stress of being pregnant and being on the show. Yeah, yeah,
I bet that's probably why. But then, I mean, that
was pretty much like the entire episode three. And then
we get right into episode four and Macy and Michaela
are continuing to read the Light Detective results at dinner,
(12:53):
which they invited Marciano to by they, I mean Jesse, Jesse,
and who would have thought that? Taylor Taylor repeatedly the
voice of reason here, over and over again.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, She's like, I think I don't think that's a
good idea to me, and.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We'd know where the show started. It was Taylor getting arrested. Yeah,
and now she is the voice of reason. I love
her to death and I love how she choose on
the side of her mouth when she talks.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But did she but I swear Jesse said something along
the lines is she can't promise that she won't talk
to Marciano again.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Are they going to be together next season?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I really hope not. But the flowers, why would you
bring flowers? Why?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They had matching colored outfits and.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Like, let's wear beige and pink today.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And Marciana is sitting on the couch doing whatever he
was His suit or whatever he was wearing just blended
right in. There's the same fabrica as the couch. It
was the same fact, Like what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I couldn't be less into a person, couldn't.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
There's something about him that's just not no, not it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I want to.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I want to talk to some of the production over
at the show and be like, why, guys, why why
do we need to do this? We could have done
all of this without him being there.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I don't know it feels a little scripted, like I said,
and I feel like, I don't know, I feel like
they have to all be in on it, because I
couldn't imagine have an affair on my husband and then going, oh,
by the way, we're going to bring him on the show,
and I'm going to go meet with him.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Then I'm gonna have dinner with him.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I mean, if he's going to be the only guy
at dinner and he's going to sit next to me
and we're gonna laugh, and we're going to put our
hands on each other and we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh my god, really like, No, you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Just took a light detector test that you guys failed
some results on, So I.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Wouldn't do so.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He would have packed my bags and sent me go
get out out.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
You're done here.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But then when Jesse asked regarding the situation involving Marston,
or have you lied about any of it? And regarding
the situation involving mar Sigon or have you told any
lies about to me? Jesse said no. It claims she
lied both times. Then Jordan calls her and he's pissed
that she's at dinner with Marciano.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
She is meeting with a guy that she had an
affair with, and then when she gets called out by
her husband, she shuts.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Down, completely shuts down.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, I think the issue we're not saying here
is that Jesse seems to want to make reality good
TV more.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Than she wants to mend her marriage relationship.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, it sounds like it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It really does, because I mean between that and when
she was talking about him and reading the text and
her husband was standing right behind her, I.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Mean, it's almost like she's pushing it in his face.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Okay, is it me or does she look exactly like
Jenn Pedante?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Is it me?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Or does she look exactly like to me? Now?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, they I kind of think they did last year.
But she reminds me of Jen Pidante. The face, the jaw,
the hair, the way she talks and is a little
bit angelic, and the way she speaks, and I swear
every time I watch I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They could be like they need to take DNA tests.
They could be related.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They could take a DNA test right after they finish
their lie detective tests. Just get the Yarine ready. But
Taylor brings all the girls together, so Jesse has the
opportunity to open up to them, and Jesse reveals how
awful her relationship with Jordan really was, and Jesse fully
breaks down, realizing she could be getting a second divorce
(16:50):
one more and she's ross from friends.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So I didn't realize she was married before. Yeah, the
child from another marriage.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I don't know, because they don't show her kids.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We haven't seen too many kids except for Taylors.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, we saw her one.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We don't see her other children from her other marriage,
but we saw I think Michaela's kids or yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Me, Yeah, when they were doing like a TikTok or
something like that. Well, Jesse gets back home and Jordan
blows up at her for going to dinner with Marciano,
which I didn't think he necessarily blew up.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
He just was like, Hey, why are we doing this?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I will tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
If I cheated on Eddie then went to dinner with
the guy brought him on the show and was fixing
my hair and being all lovey dovey with him, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Pretty sure he'd be worse than Jordan.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And he'd brought you flowers.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Eddie brought me flowers.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I think Eddie's delivery be a hell of a lot
harder than what Jordan's was. Yeah, first of all, Eddie
probably wouldn't film. He'd be like, I'm out of here, goodbye,
I'm going to pack your bags, you're leaving.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I'm actually surprised he does keep filming. But and then
he even films like a bar at his house, a barbecue.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
At his house, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But he needs her to promise that she'll never speak
to Marciano again, but she says she can't. She can't
because Marciana is now part of this world and the storyline,
and unfortunately Jordan, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Now he's welcome to reality TV.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
We can't get like the fact that he's willing to
drive these far distances and come in just to look
like an asshole.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Does he not get it?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He looks like a complete douche lord m hm, he
looks like a douche. Then Layla and Miranda go to
coffee and Layla voices her insecurities about her hair. It's
falling out from her extensions from jay Z's styles. She
needs to go to someone that knows her hair texture
but doesn't want to hurt Jesse's.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, how did you feel about this.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I felt like it was just another way for her
to cause drama because just tell her and then it felt.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Flat and it fell flat.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But I've seen the wind blow and I've seen her
hair extensions in the past and they look like they
were tapins, which tapins are so damaging to your hair.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But I thought Jesse does the so Wen ones well.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Either way, we don't know clearly if she said she
needed to go to a different hairstylist, she needed to
go to a different hairstylists that's going to protect her hair,
but why she felt the need to not be able
to tell Jesse and then make Jesse have to explain
it on camp just it was just ass to follow
up from last season when to me was like, oh,
(19:38):
I don't want to go to Jesse for my hair.
Clearly she needed to find someone that could do her
hair and make it so it wasn't going to be
in the situation that it was, and I think Jesse
clearly understood that. She just didn't understand why Layla was
trying to keep it a secret, and you know what,
to be perfectly honest, I don't know why she was
trying to keep it a secret either.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, I think Jesse handle it very well.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
She said, I don't have the background to do your
particular hair, so I'd love to see the way that
she did it. Yeah, and she handled it with grace
and knew that it was something that she had to
step away for for somebody that had more experience.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But do you think that Laila was expecting a fight
over it and that's why she brought it on TV?
Or or was it they just wanted to give her
a little bit of personal story because she did in
that scene when she was getting her hair done talk about,
you know, her dad being black and her mom being white,
and she wasn't really around her dad that much, and
(20:39):
she was called whitewashed her whole life and didn't feel
like she'd fit in and the church frowns upon darker skin,
which is absolutely crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, I think that that was definitely a way to
give her some personal story. But I wish you would
have just handled it differently. Yeah, instead of making it
a drama, just making it about us getting to know her,
because that ended up making us instead of it being
a learning opportunity.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It was like, why don't you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Just tell your friend come on it made it look
like she did something wrong as opposed to just being honest. Then,
at the MCO beauty event, all the mom Taught girls
reunite with Jen for the first time in a while.
Jen pulls Jesse aside. Jesse apologizes, saying she was projecting
her own relationship issues onto Jen and Zach. Well, Jen
(21:31):
Affleck got her redemption, a spot on Dancing with the Stars,
a commercial with cousin Ben.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
She's killing it. She is killing it. I know she
and she handled that really well. I thought too. I
thought she was nice and I liked her. She's cute.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I think she has so many lovable qualities about her.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And dare I say I've been liking her husband this
season Zach, Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, yep, I like them too.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I know that's why you're only good.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
A couple of episode then, Jordan invites all the Dad
Talk guys over to Jesse's house, Jordan essentially asking the
guys to tell their wives to support him and Jesse.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Getting back together.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean the fact that Jesse wasn't invited was a
little strange to me, Like, if you're wanting to have
this open conversation in this open dialogue. Then she should
have been there. I agree, like, let's just have her
there and he could say, listen, I love you, I
want to be with you. I want all these girls
to know that, yes, I have made mistakes, but you
(22:39):
are my priority and these are the things that have
upset me, but I want to be together. I mean,
that would have been a lot easier than the way
that this, but that wouldn't have been good TV. Probably, well,
at least it would have been realistic to television. Because
now Macy and Jacob are in their backyard talking about Marciano.
(22:59):
Macy and Jacob compair the stories they've heard from Jordan
and Jesse. We learned that Jordan invited everyone over except
for Jesse.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think that's kind of a dick move. I think
that they should have She should have been there. She
should have heard what he said. It's not like they
you know, they didn't get Yeah no, but I mean,
as we see.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Nobody girls then start kind of standing up for her.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
They don't because they're standing up for because.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Jesse told them that he was abusive. So now the
girl's like, Okay, we got our girl. This ain't going
to happen.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, I feel like there has to be some truth
to that.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I mean, I wasn't in the greatest marriage yep, but.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
How long were you in it?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I was in it eleven years? Yeah, So it takes
a while for some people to finally feel comfortable to leave.
But the girls get together at the barbecue and they
start off by talking about Jordan's intentions, and Taylor quickly
switches the converse station to talk about anal.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Taylor got a lover?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Do you like it?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Does it hurt?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Jen insinuates at her in zac to it good for them?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Just when my anal days are over, so are my
I interfere with my hemorrhoids.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
How many you got these days? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I lost count a whole cluster, the whole outfits of
everybody at the barbecue. They're wearing these cut off tank
(24:46):
tops and they're giving so many nip slips.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Oh my god, I'm talking about the man.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yes, those nineteen eighty five shirts that are the armpittholes
are cut all the way down to the waist.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
No, no, tell any of that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I couldn't even imagine Eddy walking out in one of those.
It gets your ass in there and change you're not
put on your shirt on anything with that.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
But I don't even like tank tops.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
On guys me neither. I do.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm not a tank top person. Uh huh. But then
the girl Jordan tears up and tells his side of
the story. Then the girls remind him that he behaved
poorly in the relationship to Jen and Zach wish they
received this type of support when their marriage was on
the line.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
They did not at all.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
But something that I do think we need to dig
into a little bit more is remember back when there
was issues with Jen and her husband and how on
it Jesse was to kind of like come at her
for the way he treated her, and now.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Well, oh we are.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, so she's not giving her Jen is not doing
it back to her though.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yet no, Jesse said to Jen she was projecting.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So I don't I don't necessarily think that's true. I
think she was just being a bitch and she feels like,
ha ha, I have something on you.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I'm going to bring it out.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm gonna make drama over this. I don't think she
was projecting.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But clearly Jen was like really struggling then really struggling.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That's the thing Jen was in such a bad place.
She went a mental health facility, Like she wasn't to
my knowledge, being like some big bitch.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
No, she was just broken hearted about her husband.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, I correct.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I mean, and this is before she went into this
is before she got pregnant again. This was just her
broken hearted sharing with her friends what was going on
with her husband, and they all, you know, kind of
turned on her.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Did you notice Leyla's little comment when she walked in
and Jordan, She's all, are you paying hourly for the house?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I know she keeps trying to do these little digs
and they're not landing for me.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I know she is trying to be messy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
But do you think they're like She's written them down
on her hand before she goes in, and then.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
She's like, let me rememborize this. But again, Taylor is
the voice of reason. She sees both sides. She's sympathetic with.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Did you see.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Taylor and Dakota wanting to go at it for a
second then they.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Reeled it in.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, yes, like fighting, Yes, there was like a quick second.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I didn't notice that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Dakota was like, yeah, I mean, but the difference with
me is like it was before we were even together,
and then really before we were even together, and then
all of a sudden both of them were.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Like Taylor from the beginning to the end, has said
it was not a good idea for Jesse to bring
Marciana dinner. She said it that night at dinner, and
then she said it amongst the group.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
She's the only girl in that group. I mean, any
woman would.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Say not a good idea, not a good idea, any
single one, And especially after sitting down for dinner with him.
Then I would have even if I didn't realize it
at first, then I would have been like, Okay, this
is really a bad idea because of the flirtation.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It's not just me. You saw the chemistry between them, yes,
and I.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Didn't want to see it. I really wanted to not
see it. I wanted because now I'm like, what are
they fighting for? To get back together?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But why would you act that way to a guy
that's publicly trying to destroy you?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Because she's enlust with him?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh what if with him?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
She did an interview on the fourteenth saying she's working
on things with Jordan's so she is back together with
Dan working on things right, But still I just it's
I don't know. I feel like I'm ready for Whitney
to come back. I'm ready for everybody to get involved.
I'm ready for the mess is Whitney. Whitney's waiting till
(28:53):
they invited to the Oscars. Remember, so Whitney, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
A contract issue right now. That's why she's not filming.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Mm hm wow.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
But she'll be back.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But I'm ready for everybody to come back, and I'm
ready for it to be a different story because I,
to be perfectly honest, I don't actually care about the
Marciana thing.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, but don't you think Demi came in just she
came in hot? I mean, why girl, what are you doing?
Ran to her car with her Celsius to like I'm
gonna go live, I'm gonna go live.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'm like, maybe you should quit sippin on that Celsius
and I have.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
A Cis right now.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I never drink them ever, but it was in there
and I feel like I needed some energy. And this
is from Bravo kan they put in our goodie bags.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yep, take a gulp and then yell at someone, who
are you gonna go live about?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I don't know, piss me off?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
The days young, Well, you need I have a new
show for you to watch, Truth and Proof.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
No, the Beast in me, The Beast in me, Clare Danes.
What is it so good? I don't know, but it's
so good.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Are you watching Landman?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
No, I haven't started yet.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I got it. You have to start from season one. Well,
I watched season one.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I just love it and I love it too.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But yeah, that is Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. I'm
excited to get to Southern Charm and some of these
other housewives shows because I actually.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Really Hill's coming up soon, Rightnmber night or something like that,
maybe December sixth six, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Neither.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
We're both wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We're both wrong. It's even sooner than we thought out,
in a little over a week. I'm excited about that.
What else is coming on?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
So?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Orange County is done as a Thursday, and then we
still have Salt Lake City. I heard they're going to
film their reunion soon.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And Potomac. Yeah, we're gonna be busy. Yeah, we're gonna
be busy.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
We've got such Southern Charm, it's gonna be good. We
got a lot of them. But I love you, Tam.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I love you too, Thanks guys for tuning in
Speaker 4 (31:15):
M
Two Teas and a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, and
we are recapping secret lives of Mormon Wives Season three,
Episode three and episode of four.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
First, can we play a game?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What housewife hasn't been arrested? Can you name them?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Me?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Me too?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's crazy, this is getting insane, this is getting out
of control, like Potomac. We got three down of.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Potomac, three down, Mia, Karen, and Wendy.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
This is it's a lot. It is a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's like every day you're waking up and it's like
what's next.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm like, Who's Who's.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm just gonna stay home today.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm just gonna stay home. I don't want to do anything,
afraid I'm gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I can't imagine it's getting in trouble for any of
the things.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well not those things.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So this episode, if I never hear the name Marciano again,
it'll be too soon.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Him in his cum spots. I just can't.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I can't, no, no, Well, it starts out with Macy
and MICHAELA continued their conversation with Marciano. Marciano says that
Demi told him to tell everyone that he slept with Jesse.
He also told them that he kissed me in the villa.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, first of all, where are they? They're like in
a log cabin in Las Vegas?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Is that his house? No?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm like, I've never seen this area of Las Vegas.
It's all like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It was weird. It's not in Vegas. I think it's
in between.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh I thought they met at in Vegas because he
lived there.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No, they they drove like four or five hours. Isn't
that how long it takes its Vegas?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it's only supposed to could take them two and
a half hour, but they had to stop to pee
on themselves multiple times. They've met in beaver Utah.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh okay, So Demi behind the scenes is doing all this,
but yet she made out with him too, and she's married.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I mean, it's all too much for me to even
take in. And I also don't know why we're believing this.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Guy at all.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I don't know why he's on our screen.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But can we get him on the podcast. I want
to hear it all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Marciano Cherry or whatever his name is. Well, then Jordan
tells Zach about the affair. I just want to point
out that Jordan is telling Zach while wearing a dad
Talk merch hat hat they had shirts. But are you
happy to know that Marciano doesn't.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Have edi A reck style dysfunction.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, he made that clear. He made that clear, and
he was talking. He's like, they were like, why are
you taking that pill? Well, I don't have a rectil dysfunction.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
He said, I just had stage fright.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
What guy has stage fright? Come on, the.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Guy that's boning as much as he's supposedly boning has
stage fright.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't find Taylor. I'm what Taylor. I don't find him.
I don't find him hot. No, I don't see Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Cracks me up.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
She's like, yeah, I get it now, Yeah, I get
why they're all into him. She's like, no, I don't, No,
actually I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't get it at all.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But Zach tells Jordan that it will get worse before
it gets better because the public opinions after the show airs.
He didn't know if Jen's relationship would survive. When going
through their problems, Jordan said he is willing to take
responsibility for mistakes he has made in order to make
things work.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Remind me what Jen and Sach's problem were. Is he
the one that was looking at porn or something?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He's the one that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Like flipped out when she went to Chippendale's remember it
and then?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But there was bigger problems than that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, but he like was like, what kind of wife
are you? You're disgusting? Like I'm paraphrasing, but Whitney's husband
was the one who was looking at porn.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh that's right, Okay, So I will say that Zach
had good advice for Jordan, much different than when he
talked to Dakota. Dakota's like, wow, man, and Zach's like,
you know, how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
How you're going to move forward?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You know, He's asking all the right questions and talking
to him. The Dakota's like, I'm just here to look hot.
We've had baby blue as dark.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Hair minor blue. He said that later in the episode.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, there was his minor green.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But Jordan is can absolutely convince that they did not
have sex.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, I think he's probably just saying that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, do you think if.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The pill worked, they wouldn't That's why Wait, if the
pill would have worked, do.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You why would a pill not work?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Because they passed out beforehand because he was drunk and
then took the pill, and then he tried to get
hard and then couldn't, and then they fell asleep.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But they were just dry humping.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
They were bed jumping better than bed rotting.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well, I mean, can you even soak when somebody soft?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh god, I mean it was no, It's like putting
mashed potatoes and.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, Oh my gosh. But this whole thing is just
getting so blown out of proportion because I just don't
believe this guy. I don't believe one word this guy says,
whether he's taking a lie detector test or not. Then
Tom and Camille show up to this acta event. Layla
tells to me that they know she tried to conspire
(05:58):
with Marciano shows Leayla text between her and Marciana as proof,
but Leaila is confused on why she keeps getting involved.
Layla calls Jesse while Demi is right next to her,
and Jesse is upset because she feels like the phone
call was blind siding to me, then runs off, threatens
to go live on instant and tell everyone about Jesse's affair.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Oh we have involved.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We got a lot to talk about. Damn me.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Like she's not doing herself any favors, especially by saying
she's gonna go live and then to say she doesn't
want to get it goes crazy. Says she doesn't want
to get involved, but yet the text messages between her
and Marciano are NonStop.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
She's scrolling and scrolling.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is like GPT, I mean, how who writes those long
of text messages? Me points, Yeah, we write a couple
of sentences here and there, and that's like a major feat.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But she's like, I don't want to get involved.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Then she reads something that makes her look like she's
getting involved.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Her text with Jessee were just as long.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Nobody texts me like that. Okay, I'm not have that
much to say. Just pick up the phone and call me.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, even if you're blocked, like you know, I.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Might not have my readers on, I won't be able
to see. It'll give me a headache, Like, just call me.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm not that interested in anything anybody has to say.
If it needs to take that many words, right, But
I think the move here would have been for Leila
to call Marciana with Demi there. That would have been
the move if she was going to do one. Even
though yeah, but I think her talent. I just Leayla
(07:32):
is messy this season and she doesn't care what she
has to do.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Do you remember when we interviewed her after our interviewed
a bunch of them after season two and they were
already in season three, and we said something like, I
feel like you need to get more involved. She's like,
wait till next season. Well, here it is, and she's involved.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
She's involved.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Then the girls all decide they're going to go so
but they're at this jet, but then they don't take
the jet anywhere, which I was can used by.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think it was just like an event thing right
out A Jess hanger is like at a hanger, it's
kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I thought, yeah, if you're gonna fly somewhere after, but
if not, like I don't need to go to the
airport to hang out.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I don't know if it was actually a airport
or just just like a museum almost where planes are
just parked in there.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Well that I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who do you think the mole is. I think I
figured it out.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I think I think it's Marciano.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I think Jesse is telling Marciano's stuff and Marciana was
telling Demi stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's that's probably a good thing, because you can tell
by way the way they're talking they haven't stopped talking,
and the smiles and the outfits and all the things.
But first the girls decided to go on a trip
to Saint George. They say, man in Utah. They don't
go very far, do they. Miranda is officially back in
(08:57):
mom Talk, but like, when did she leave?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
She's been there the whole time.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I don't think they actually she was.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
She came back last season, right, yeah, but I don't
think she was actually back in mom Talk.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh okay, So she's had to work her way back
by not showing, by showing she's not the male. But
then Jesse says she feels betrayed by Marciano because he lied,
but she wants to talk to him because she feels
like she needs closure. The girls are confused why she
wants to see him?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You know what? So am I? So am? I?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, I don't know I just want to say, no, girl, no,
you don't want to sit down with him.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
He's trying to destroy your life publicly, Like why would
you give.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Him the time?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The sitting down and the light detector test is one thing,
but the dinner is a completely other thing.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh yeah, I have a lot to say about that.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah. So then we see Jen learning about the affair.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Jen feels like Jesse gaslighted her by calling her a liar.
Even though Jesse was hiding all these secrets behind closed doors.
They might as well be on Housewives they kind of are. Yeah,
And then Jesse asked Marciano to take the light detector
with her. According to the light detector, Demi and Marciano
didn't have sex. According to the light detector, it's inconclusive
(10:15):
that Jesse and Marciana I did have sexual contact. I'm
going to need all reality show producers to knock it
off with the light detector test.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, here's the thing with a light detector test. Now,
this lady did not want to be shown on camera.
She said, no cameras to be in there. She also
said after the test has taken it takes an hour
and a half to get the results back. This is
how I know that this one is semi you know,
MORI legit? Yeah, because our light detector test we took
all of us, went in and out, in and out,
in and out.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There was what six seven of us and then our
results came back like that.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And from what Dolores had told me, because her father
is a chief of police or something like that, he
said he was in the background when we were talking
about this and he said, absolutely not possible to get
accurately from how it was done on Orange County. So
it just goes to prove it was not accurate.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, and wasn't done properly.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
How about Jesse like fixing herself in the mirror because
Marciana's coming and he's walking in with flowers.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'm like, no, I walk in with flowers. Why was
she getting herself all dulled up?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like she's like making sure she looks good. The chemistry
between them is so obvious. The camera does not lie.
It's quite clear that they still have feelings for each
other and they're flirting on camera, Like does she think
this is going to help? And when her husband saw it,
he I don't even if they're still together. I mean
it had to have pissed him off.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Had it pissed me off?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And of all the outfits to wear, all the things,
it's not one thing did she do is write in
this episode?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So why is she being sweet to him and telling
him like, I'm separated now and.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This guy tried to destroy your marriage.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Because clearly she is interested in him.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean clearly.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean she's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean, poor Michaela.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Did you notice, like I know she's Mikayla has the
autoimmune issues, right, Yeah, she was scratching. It seemed like
her neck was swollen.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Oh, I wonder it's coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Oh I felt bad for her.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Probably the stress of being pregnant and being on the show. Yeah, yeah,
I bet that's probably why. But then, I mean, that
was pretty much like the entire episode three. And then
we get right into episode four and Macy and Michaela
are continuing to read the Light Detective results at dinner,
(12:53):
which they invited Marciano to by they, I mean Jesse, Jesse,
and who would have thought that? Taylor Taylor repeatedly the
voice of reason here, over and over again.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, She's like, I think I don't think that's a
good idea to me, and.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We'd know where the show started. It was Taylor getting arrested. Yeah,
and now she is the voice of reason. I love
her to death and I love how she choose on
the side of her mouth when she talks.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But did she but I swear Jesse said something along
the lines is she can't promise that she won't talk
to Marciano again.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Are they going to be together next season?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I really hope not. But the flowers, why would you
bring flowers? Why?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They had matching colored outfits and.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Like, let's wear beige and pink today.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And Marciana is sitting on the couch doing whatever he
was His suit or whatever he was wearing just blended
right in. There's the same fabrica as the couch. It
was the same fact, Like what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I couldn't be less into a person, couldn't.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
There's something about him that's just not no, not it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I want to.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I want to talk to some of the production over
at the show and be like, why, guys, why why
do we need to do this? We could have done
all of this without him being there.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I don't know it feels a little scripted, like I said,
and I feel like, I don't know, I feel like
they have to all be in on it, because I
couldn't imagine have an affair on my husband and then going, oh,
by the way, we're going to bring him on the show,
and I'm going to go meet with him.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Then I'm gonna have dinner with him.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I mean, if he's going to be the only guy
at dinner and he's going to sit next to me
and we're gonna laugh, and we're going to put our
hands on each other and we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh my god, really like, No, you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Just took a light detector test that you guys failed
some results on, So I.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Wouldn't do so.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He would have packed my bags and sent me go
get out out.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
You're done here.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But then when Jesse asked regarding the situation involving Marston,
or have you lied about any of it? And regarding
the situation involving mar Sigon or have you told any
lies about to me? Jesse said no. It claims she
lied both times. Then Jordan calls her and he's pissed
that she's at dinner with Marciano.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
She is meeting with a guy that she had an
affair with, and then when she gets called out by
her husband, she shuts.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Down, completely shuts down.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, I think the issue we're not saying here
is that Jesse seems to want to make reality good
TV more.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Than she wants to mend her marriage relationship.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, it sounds like it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It really does, because I mean between that and when
she was talking about him and reading the text and
her husband was standing right behind her, I.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Mean, it's almost like she's pushing it in his face.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Okay, is it me or does she look exactly like
Jenn Pedante?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Is it me?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Or does she look exactly like to me? Now?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, they I kind of think they did last year.
But she reminds me of Jen Pidante. The face, the jaw,
the hair, the way she talks and is a little
bit angelic, and the way she speaks, and I swear
every time I watch I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They could be like they need to take DNA tests.
They could be related.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They could take a DNA test right after they finish
their lie detective tests. Just get the Yarine ready. But
Taylor brings all the girls together, so Jesse has the
opportunity to open up to them, and Jesse reveals how
awful her relationship with Jordan really was, and Jesse fully
breaks down, realizing she could be getting a second divorce
(16:50):
one more and she's ross from friends.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So I didn't realize she was married before. Yeah, the
child from another marriage.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I don't know, because they don't show her kids.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We haven't seen too many kids except for Taylors.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, we saw her one.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We don't see her other children from her other marriage,
but we saw I think Michaela's kids or yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Me, Yeah, when they were doing like a TikTok or
something like that. Well, Jesse gets back home and Jordan
blows up at her for going to dinner with Marciano,
which I didn't think he necessarily blew up.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
He just was like, Hey, why are we doing this?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I will tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
If I cheated on Eddie then went to dinner with
the guy brought him on the show and was fixing
my hair and being all lovey dovey with him, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Pretty sure he'd be worse than Jordan.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And he'd brought you flowers.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Eddie brought me flowers.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I think Eddie's delivery be a hell of a lot
harder than what Jordan's was. Yeah, first of all, Eddie
probably wouldn't film. He'd be like, I'm out of here, goodbye,
I'm going to pack your bags, you're leaving.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I'm actually surprised he does keep filming. But and then
he even films like a bar at his house, a barbecue.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
At his house, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But he needs her to promise that she'll never speak
to Marciano again, but she says she can't. She can't
because Marciana is now part of this world and the storyline,
and unfortunately Jordan, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Now he's welcome to reality TV.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
We can't get like the fact that he's willing to
drive these far distances and come in just to look
like an asshole.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Does he not get it?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He looks like a complete douche lord m hm, he
looks like a douche. Then Layla and Miranda go to
coffee and Layla voices her insecurities about her hair. It's
falling out from her extensions from jay Z's styles. She
needs to go to someone that knows her hair texture
but doesn't want to hurt Jesse's.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, how did you feel about this.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I felt like it was just another way for her
to cause drama because just tell her and then it felt.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Flat and it fell flat.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But I've seen the wind blow and I've seen her
hair extensions in the past and they look like they
were tapins, which tapins are so damaging to your hair.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But I thought Jesse does the so Wen ones well.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Either way, we don't know clearly if she said she
needed to go to a different hairstylist, she needed to
go to a different hairstylists that's going to protect her hair,
but why she felt the need to not be able
to tell Jesse and then make Jesse have to explain
it on camp just it was just ass to follow
up from last season when to me was like, oh,
(19:38):
I don't want to go to Jesse for my hair.
Clearly she needed to find someone that could do her
hair and make it so it wasn't going to be
in the situation that it was, and I think Jesse
clearly understood that. She just didn't understand why Layla was
trying to keep it a secret, and you know what,
to be perfectly honest, I don't know why she was
trying to keep it a secret either.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, I think Jesse handle it very well.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
She said, I don't have the background to do your
particular hair, so I'd love to see the way that
she did it. Yeah, and she handled it with grace
and knew that it was something that she had to
step away for for somebody that had more experience.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But do you think that Laila was expecting a fight
over it and that's why she brought it on TV?
Or or was it they just wanted to give her
a little bit of personal story because she did in
that scene when she was getting her hair done talk about,
you know, her dad being black and her mom being white,
and she wasn't really around her dad that much, and
(20:39):
she was called whitewashed her whole life and didn't feel
like she'd fit in and the church frowns upon darker skin,
which is absolutely crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, I think that that was definitely a way to
give her some personal story. But I wish you would
have just handled it differently. Yeah, instead of making it
a drama, just making it about us getting to know her,
because that ended up making us instead of it being
a learning opportunity.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It was like, why don't you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Just tell your friend come on it made it look
like she did something wrong as opposed to just being honest. Then,
at the MCO beauty event, all the mom Taught girls
reunite with Jen for the first time in a while.
Jen pulls Jesse aside. Jesse apologizes, saying she was projecting
her own relationship issues onto Jen and Zach. Well, Jen
(21:31):
Affleck got her redemption, a spot on Dancing with the Stars,
a commercial with cousin Ben.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
She's killing it. She is killing it. I know she
and she handled that really well. I thought too. I
thought she was nice and I liked her. She's cute.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I think she has so many lovable qualities about her.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And dare I say I've been liking her husband this
season Zach, Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, yep, I like them too.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I know that's why you're only good.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
A couple of episode then, Jordan invites all the Dad
Talk guys over to Jesse's house, Jordan essentially asking the
guys to tell their wives to support him and Jesse.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Getting back together.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean the fact that Jesse wasn't invited was a
little strange to me, Like, if you're wanting to have
this open conversation in this open dialogue. Then she should
have been there. I agree, like, let's just have her
there and he could say, listen, I love you, I
want to be with you. I want all these girls
to know that, yes, I have made mistakes, but you
(22:39):
are my priority and these are the things that have
upset me, but I want to be together. I mean,
that would have been a lot easier than the way
that this, but that wouldn't have been good TV. Probably, well,
at least it would have been realistic to television. Because
now Macy and Jacob are in their backyard talking about Marciano.
(22:59):
Macy and Jacob compair the stories they've heard from Jordan
and Jesse. We learned that Jordan invited everyone over except
for Jesse.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think that's kind of a dick move. I think
that they should have She should have been there. She
should have heard what he said. It's not like they
you know, they didn't get Yeah no, but I mean,
as we see.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Nobody girls then start kind of standing up for her.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
They don't because they're standing up for because.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Jesse told them that he was abusive. So now the
girl's like, Okay, we got our girl. This ain't going
to happen.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, I feel like there has to be some truth
to that.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I mean, I wasn't in the greatest marriage yep, but.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
How long were you in it?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I was in it eleven years? Yeah, So it takes
a while for some people to finally feel comfortable to leave.
But the girls get together at the barbecue and they
start off by talking about Jordan's intentions, and Taylor quickly
switches the converse station to talk about anal.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Taylor got a lover?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Do you like it?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Does it hurt?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Jen insinuates at her in zac to it good for them?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Just when my anal days are over, so are my
I interfere with my hemorrhoids.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
How many you got these days? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I lost count a whole cluster, the whole outfits of
everybody at the barbecue. They're wearing these cut off tank
(24:46):
tops and they're giving so many nip slips.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Oh my god, I'm talking about the man.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yes, those nineteen eighty five shirts that are the armpittholes
are cut all the way down to the waist.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
No, no, tell any of that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I couldn't even imagine Eddy walking out in one of those.
It gets your ass in there and change you're not
put on your shirt on anything with that.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
But I don't even like tank tops.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
On guys me neither. I do.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm not a tank top person. Uh huh. But then
the girl Jordan tears up and tells his side of
the story. Then the girls remind him that he behaved
poorly in the relationship to Jen and Zach wish they
received this type of support when their marriage was on
the line.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
They did not at all.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
But something that I do think we need to dig
into a little bit more is remember back when there
was issues with Jen and her husband and how on
it Jesse was to kind of like come at her
for the way he treated her, and now.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Well, oh we are.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, so she's not giving her Jen is not doing
it back to her though.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yet no, Jesse said to Jen she was projecting.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So I don't I don't necessarily think that's true. I
think she was just being a bitch and she feels like,
ha ha, I have something on you.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I'm going to bring it out.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm gonna make drama over this. I don't think she
was projecting.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But clearly Jen was like really struggling then really struggling.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That's the thing Jen was in such a bad place.
She went a mental health facility, Like she wasn't to
my knowledge, being like some big bitch.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
No, she was just broken hearted about her husband.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, I correct.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I mean, and this is before she went into this
is before she got pregnant again. This was just her
broken hearted sharing with her friends what was going on
with her husband, and they all, you know, kind of
turned on her.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Did you notice Leyla's little comment when she walked in
and Jordan, She's all, are you paying hourly for the house?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I know she keeps trying to do these little digs
and they're not landing for me.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I know she is trying to be messy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
But do you think they're like She's written them down
on her hand before she goes in, and then.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
She's like, let me rememborize this. But again, Taylor is
the voice of reason. She sees both sides. She's sympathetic with.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Did you see.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Taylor and Dakota wanting to go at it for a
second then they.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Reeled it in.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, yes, like fighting, Yes, there was like a quick second.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I didn't notice that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Dakota was like, yeah, I mean, but the difference with
me is like it was before we were even together,
and then really before we were even together, and then
all of a sudden both of them were.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Like Taylor from the beginning to the end, has said
it was not a good idea for Jesse to bring
Marciana dinner. She said it that night at dinner, and
then she said it amongst the group.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
She's the only girl in that group. I mean, any
woman would.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Say not a good idea, not a good idea, any
single one, And especially after sitting down for dinner with him.
Then I would have even if I didn't realize it
at first, then I would have been like, Okay, this
is really a bad idea because of the flirtation.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It's not just me. You saw the chemistry between them, yes,
and I.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Didn't want to see it. I really wanted to not
see it. I wanted because now I'm like, what are
they fighting for? To get back together?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But why would you act that way to a guy
that's publicly trying to destroy you?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Because she's enlust with him?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh what if with him?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
She did an interview on the fourteenth saying she's working
on things with Jordan's so she is back together with
Dan working on things right, But still I just it's
I don't know. I feel like I'm ready for Whitney
to come back. I'm ready for everybody to get involved.
I'm ready for the mess is Whitney. Whitney's waiting till
(28:53):
they invited to the Oscars. Remember, so Whitney, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
A contract issue right now. That's why she's not filming.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Mm hm wow.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
But she'll be back.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But I'm ready for everybody to come back, and I'm
ready for it to be a different story because I,
to be perfectly honest, I don't actually care about the
Marciana thing.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, but don't you think Demi came in just she
came in hot? I mean, why girl, what are you doing?
Ran to her car with her Celsius to like I'm
gonna go live, I'm gonna go live.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'm like, maybe you should quit sippin on that Celsius
and I have.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
A Cis right now.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I never drink them ever, but it was in there
and I feel like I needed some energy. And this
is from Bravo kan they put in our goodie bags.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yep, take a gulp and then yell at someone, who
are you gonna go live about?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I don't know, piss me off?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
The days young, Well, you need I have a new
show for you to watch, Truth and Proof.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
No, the Beast in me, The Beast in me, Clare Danes.
What is it so good? I don't know, but it's
so good.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Are you watching Landman?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
No, I haven't started yet.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I got it. You have to start from season one. Well,
I watched season one.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I just love it and I love it too.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But yeah, that is Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. I'm
excited to get to Southern Charm and some of these
other housewives shows because I actually.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Really Hill's coming up soon, Rightnmber night or something like that,
maybe December sixth six, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Neither.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
We're both wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We're both wrong. It's even sooner than we thought out,
in a little over a week. I'm excited about that.
What else is coming on?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
So?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Orange County is done as a Thursday, and then we
still have Salt Lake City. I heard they're going to
film their reunion soon.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And Potomac. Yeah, we're gonna be busy. Yeah, we're gonna
be busy.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
We've got such Southern Charm, it's gonna be good. We
got a lot of them. But I love you, Tam.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I love you too, Thanks guys for tuning in
Speaker 4 (31:15):
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