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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Dolores Catanya.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
How are you everyone today?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I wasn't feeling well this morning and right now and
I are boasting in the same house. And so this
morning he saw me and he's like, you don't look good.
I'm like, I know, I don't feel good. And I'm like,
can you give me a blanket? He's like, A what
I'm like a blanket? Bank And he's like, hold on,
like a what I'm like like a blanket?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The maternal instinct is uncanny. I mean, I just don't
know where it comes from. A dead possum maybe I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I cannot believe we've gone through three rounds of a blanket.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He's like, where do I get it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm like, you've never used a blanket in all the
years we've lived at this house.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
When they're in the blanket for hmmm, I go to
the place.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, let's start there talking about Okay, so it starts
off this episode of the Valley. We're already at episode
fourteen you we're pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It really is. Like, honestly, in the beginning, I was like,
oh God, how do I get through it? And then
like it picked up and now the real adults having
real problems, and I feel for them.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I feel for them too.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I also have moments where like, the good thing about
it is, even though sometimes some people are driving me
absolutely nuts, then they come back around and then you
see like a little bit of a deeming side in them,
and I'm like, Okay, I can deal with this. I
can see where this person's coming from.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm a little bit like, huh. Like, to be honest,
if I miss it, I'm not like, oh my god,
I can't believe I missed it. I'm not feeling that
way about it. But when I'm watching it, I'm invested
at this point.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And especially because this was a little bit of a
filler episode, but it was still pretty good. It starts
out where Jasmine meets Danny and na to give them
a tour of a house that's up for sale.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Nia, please having kids, because you're growing out of the
house that you can afford, right, Like, she wants to just.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Move to the town that's twenty more minutes you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Could do that. Do they want the name? Is that
so important? And I used to be a realtor, I
know this very well. They want the name or it's
the school system is very important.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, Well they're going to get a better school system
if they move somewhere like Castaic or Valencia, any of
those places. They're going to get a great school system.
They're going to live in a mansion. But Nia's stuck
on this. I wish I think she's stuck on it
because I think there's part of her reasoning why if
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they don't live in the valley, are they going to
be on the valley? But I want to be like,
no one from Beverly Hills actually lives in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We could say that for a few shows, by the way,
So just put a little adj adjacent and then we're fine. Yeah, Nia,
I mean, you could give up on the No one's
getting rid of you.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
No one's getting rid You're a fan favorite right now,
even though I want to get into this hole. Either
we're having another baby or we're having surgery type thing
that we're going through with Neia. I think we're starting
to see a different side of Nia. But before that,
I want to know, did Danny tell Jasmine please go
find the tiniest one million dollar home you possibly can.
It's just not an appropriate house for when you have
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six four hundred and twenty two children. Like if I
was going to go live in that house with one
other person, great, Yes, I would probably if I was.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yonder and one other person and I didn't have my
wardrobe yet, Like at eighteen, when I had one pair
of sneakers and I borrowed shoes to go out with,
that would have been so per and it actually had lights,
like in my house we didn't have lights and sit
like that. Yeah, so yeah, that would I think it's
so nice for a starter couple, but not a family.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, so we look at this house.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
At this point, Nia is starting to see like she's
going to come around. But I do think it means
that there's going to be another baby coming.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, then you better hold off on your booble lift
because that'll be a big waste.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, I have a question. She's very tough on her body.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Who isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean, I'm tough.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
On my body too, but like, I don't know that
I would be so tough if I was popping out
four to seven children, right, But yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Because why because you would expect to lose.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I would expect it to be a little bit hard.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah. So that's but she's still listen, she looks great
for having kids back to back. You know, she looks amazing.
But we're all our own worst critics. However, or plastic
surgery should not be at the tip of your tongue
or anywhere is near coming out of your mouth when
you're considering having another child. Still, it's one or the other.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Then we get to Kristin and Luke talking about their
doctor's appointment, Kristin blaming their inability to conceive on her
age and her body. I can only imagine what she's
kind of going through because now they've just gotten the
you know, we see the doctor saying, oh, Luke, you've
got plenty of your numbers are looking good, and then they're.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Like and then she feels like it's her right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, I remember when I could get pregnant naturally and
the amount of stress that I put on myself, and
I even remember the last time around the doctor said
to me, this is the last time we're letting you
do this, really, because you are beating yourself up and
you're putting yourself like you're gonna have to wait a bit.
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And so then that was the only time that I
didn't fully like obsess like.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Getting the test.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The day that they said I could get the test, like,
I was just more casual about everything. I went home
for Christmas, I went whatever, They're like, then you're gonna
miss your test. I'm like, but is the test going
to do anything other than tell me I'm pregnant or
not pregnant, And they're like no, I'm like, okay, so
when I get home from Christmas, I'll come in and check.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And that was the time I was pregnant.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I feel like stress is such a component of that
making it harder. I just do I because when I
hear so many stories people saying, I mean, it's been
five hundred years since I was pregnant, so I can't, like,
you know whatever, I can't relate, but I feel for
you when you're going through that. It's hard. But I
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say to myself, like so many people are like, well,
when I stop caring, that's when it happened.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But then when you're in the place where you are caring,
it really pisses you off.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That people say that, so it's hard.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, it's a lose lose, I mean, And I also
remember if you don't feel stressed, if you feel casual,
you're going to do better. And that's the same thing
people have said to me about cancer stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I'm like, I know when.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Other people say it to you, it's very different than
when it's sinking in for yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Sometimes it's better to say nothing, right teddy, But people
want to say something to you because they feel they
want to make you feel better. They truly are broke,
heartbroken over you. And there's so many wrong things to
say and so little right things to say.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Is the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And no matter what, nothing anybody else says to you,
when you're going through a hardship like either one of
these things like you really really want a baby and
you're trying to get pregnant, or if you have cancer,
or if one of your family members is sick or
whatever it may be, there's really nothing anybody can say
that's going to take away your personal pain or what
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you're upset about.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, so what would you since you've been through both
of these things that we're talking about, what would be
the suggestion to somebody on the other side, talking to
the person who's going through it, what would you suggest
to them?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I personally don't like when people would suggest to me,
like their doctors or different ways that they were able
to make it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Work, like unless it's like, oh, my gosh, I had
the same issue.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
My acupuncturist is amazing. Do you want to see them?
You know, those types of things. Light messaging I was
fine with. But anytime somebody was like, oh, you know
what you need to do. You need to relax, you
need to make sure you're getting your rest, you know,
I'd be like, you know what you need to do?
Imagine how hard it is for me to feel relaxed.
So I would say the biggest thing that I would
say is just have somebody say, hey, I'm here for you,
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I love you, and anything that you need.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Let me know makes sense.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And then it's like you're not even forced to respond
if you don't want to. And your real friends know
that if you don't respond, it has nothing to do
with them.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's just what you're going through exactly. Real friends, that's
the big that's the thing that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Really care about you, because it's not about them at
the time. It's not about them getting their answer from you.
It's not about how they made you feel that they
need to know. It's about you.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, it's about you.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And then when you come around, you're going to feel
better and they're going to feel better because nobody applied
pressure on each other.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But I think that Luke.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Does a really excellent job of making Kristen feel good
and also saying.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
A lovely guy, yeah, and also saying like would you dabbed?
Would you do? How would you feel if I did? Surrogacy?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And I mean you could tell that hurt her to
have that conversation, but I think those are real conversations
that need to be happy we had.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And but you know what, Teddy, he he did it
in a way that was very empathetic to her. I
feel like the way he worded it in a situation
like that, especially for a woman, it's all in presentation.
Like I'll say, Paul, when he tries to tell me something,
I go, well, I shut down after the last sentence
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because you didn't approach me with it. Well, yeah, like
you came at me with it, You didn't suggest it more.
I think he came to her more of a suggestion
than anything. Yeah, however it was that he did it.
I did at the time feel he was a very
gentle man about it, which.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I did too.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I thought that he was very gentle about it, and
also he took away.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think a lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Men, whether they mean to or not, but when you're
significant others trying to get pregnant, they want to put
blame on something like, but did you have that special
drink that they told you to have at ten am
when they told you to have it, Or didn't you
have a champagne three weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Are you not supposed to drink?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, like they start like pinning, like trying to
pick reasons. Meanwhile, where like most people that get pregnant
are like sixteen and like aren't trying or probably drinking
as a total disaster.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So like, you know, if you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Exactly what about the James May photo shoot with your
hair today?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You could really just zip right into it. Oh shirt on.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
She's such a pretty girl, Yeah, Brandy, she really is pretty.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
She's pretty.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I think I think the entire you see the house
that you know they're going through it while they're taking
their pictures. Of course, Jax calls and asks for his
ring verification code.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Does he ever leave her alone? You know what I
think they really I think he's I think he loves her,
but he's just a disaster. Do you think there are.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Some people that are capable of ever not cheating or
do you think, like if once I think this massive
of a cheater, you're a cheater for the rest of
your life. No.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I was told once from my cousin. He was my
mentor growing up. He owned, bought a bank, he owned
strip clubs. You owned a lot of things. And he
said that when men, you can never change a man,
but they change in like they start to change in
their late fifties and early sixties because when they're and
I've said this before, when that stops working, they start
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to think about who they're going to die with, right,
Like it becomes all of a sudden they aren't like immortal,
like they find this human side to them, like, oh
my god, like this this isn't everything anymore. But that
doesn't that I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Think that means that's what Brittany should do.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I don't think that means Brittany has to wait until
she can no longer have sex to being a good.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
By the way, I think Brittany, I think Jacks has
so much more trouble than cheating. There's just so much.
It's endless, And I think that Jacks should become a
monk for a while and stay away from everyone and
go find himself with a bunch of monks in a
mountain and not come back down until he cannot hurt it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Anyone monks in a mountain, that's gonna go on a
T shirt instead of it saying jackx's he just wear
monks in a mountain.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, that's it, That's where he needs to be. But
I mean, this is an extensive, extensive therapy.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And yeah, like this isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Some cornball thing that he was at where they gave
him his phone to abuse his wife every day.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, then Jesse visits Jacks's apartment for the first time.
You can tell Jacks is uncomfortable even showing his apartment,
which I'm like, listen, this is a thousand square feet
bigger than the one we just sol for me, and
he was really worked up about having to do. This
is a stairs, Yeah, so you have to walk up
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some stairs, Jacks.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You've got a lot of pent up energy.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Go go wear yourself out after you go food chopping
and have to bring up all the bags.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, yeah, you know what, but he kind of made
me like there were moments of things that he would
like just he was he's such a hypocrite, like he'd
be like, oh, you know, I'm totally and Jesse. I
really liked this episode because Jesse's realized that he now
needs Michelle to like him, and he's coming around.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This was a really pivotal moment for a lot of
people in this episode.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
By the way, Yeah, well Jack, Jack's is still worked
up because he found out that Brittany is dating someone else.
I'm sorry, we're on episode fourteen. Hasn't she been dating
somebody else since the beginning of it?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Because as I checked, he threw a table at her
because she was showing she had like beIN shots on
her kids. I passed, Yeah, I'm not sure this is
news to him.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, And like, who aren't you seeing somebody else?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Why?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Why are we still talking about let's talk about the
fact that you two can't have one decent conversation together.
Why figure out a decent schedule for your child?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, they better figure it out real soon, because it's
not about them anymore. I you know, I want to say,
I say I want to find something wrong with her
in all this, because it always you can always say
it takes two. I don't want to be biased because
she's a woman. I'm not looking at it like that.
But this girl did nothing wrong. She did absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Did she Well, I don't think she did anything wrong.
But I think the problem is that there was so
many times that they would have these massive fights and
break up, get back together. You know, this is throughout
before they were even engaged or married, and then she
still got engaged to him. I don't think going into
it she thought this is going to work out well.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And I think they're addicted to fighting with each other.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think she did. I think that she thought, I
think should change him. I think I think he loves her,
believe it or not. I think right now he loves
her more than she.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Loves only because she's pushing him away.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You can't. How can you not love someone who has
stuck by you through your abuse, through your this. And
I mean not that he knows how to love or
not that he shows it, but he has to feel
something for her. We know he has deep rooted issues
with family and all these unresolved issues that he has.
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And how could he She's all he has in this world.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I know, and I think he knows that Andy away,
but he's been pushing her away for over ten years.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well, everybody has a breaking point, some closer than others.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
That's true. That's true. Well, then we'll get back to them.
But Nea goes to the doctor for her consultation for
her mommy makeover. She gets emotional when the doctor says
parts of her body are almost at an extreme level?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
So like to me, I be wrong, but I this
is like the one area I I went in and
got everything.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Checked too after I had my kids.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
But he said that like the way that her boobs
are falling is an extreme level, which means that she
would have to get a lift, And then I think
one of those like nets where they pull it up.
And then also, you know, it's like essentially a big surgery.
It's not like you're just going in to get your
tits done.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I've had it five times, just like that. I've had
five lifts. I've had five I don't know, you got.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
A lift every time?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, See, I've.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Had my nipples taken off more times than I can't
count and put back on.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
How many nipples are They always the same ones that
come back on.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, they put the same ones back on. Thank god
they don't lose them or anything. But yeah, so yes,
I've had I've had it done so many times, and
you really make sure you have the right doctor because
it's not easy. They kelloyd and things like that, and listen,
and I'll be having them done it again, by the way.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
A minor do. But because of my cancer stuff, I
have to.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Gosh, dang it, I have to take a break from
getting my boobs done.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Can now believe it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Now I feel bad for you.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Listen, I have to go my botox and tits.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Now I feel for you.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You should feel for me.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Sucks.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, you know what, you want to feel bad for
me again? Get my Tit's done, okay, you listen, listen.
This was a really bad day.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So you know about ten years ago when I went
to get my boobs done right after cruise because I
didn't know that Dove was coming.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
The woman the doctor who did my boob.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Said, listen, if there's a spot that needs a little
bit more volume, would you like us to take fat
from any of your areas? And I was like, yes,
please take it from my inner thighs and she's like, great,
we'll do that. I thought that meant that was a
confirmation of what they'll do. And then I woke up
and the first thing I did was check in my thighs,
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like it's nobody's business. I'm like, hold on, I don't
feel anything. And they're like, we didn't need any extra volume.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh no, I couldn't let you borrow seven if you
need it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I know. I was like, no, I wanted to so fat.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm like, well, you're around her. Get it all done.
I'm getting fat taken out of They can have their choice.
I just don't need it. On the inside. I need it,
and they're gonna put it in my hands for wrinkles.
For wrinkles, I'm putting it and I'm doing a skin
tightening with renovale on at the end of this month.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
My gosh, can I come? Am I allowed to get
these things yet?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean, I'm not your doctor, but I'm gonna tell
you you're my friend. Yeah, you come with me wherever
I go. I get it for you too. We'll get
it two.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
First, we'll do it. We'll do a little paid post.
I'll wear my brown wigs so.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
We can match. It'll be like we'll have a little
girl's day.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You love it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But the doctor goes on and on about the insecurities
that she's having. I have to say this, that doctor
would have had some problems if he would have used
some of that language about my body to me on camera.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Who was a little.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well what did he not? All doctors have the best
bedside manner, by the way, Yeah, And I don't mind them.
I'm not like want to date them. I just want
a good doctor.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I at the end of the day, as long as
it's a good time. I mean, I'm watching Toxic right now,
which you need to watch. You're gonna be so obsessed.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Get out.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Really it's so good.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So Armie Hammer's wife or I don't know if it's
his ex wife at this point, is on a show
called Toxic Okay, and it it's based on people who
go in and they have these like toxic relationships and
how they get out of them and how they Oh my.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
God, I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Why So is it like a or is a seriousity?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's serious, but it's based on the truth and you're
seeing the actual people it's happened to.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Write it down toxic. I think it's on Netflix, But
if it's not on Netflix, you can do your own googling.
I'm sure, Paul can.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm gonna watch I haven't had a minute, but I'm
gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You're gonna need to do it, and then we're gonna
have to touch base. Did you think it was necessary
to prove a point?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What point was proved?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I guess the point that they're trying to prove is
like he al together for as Janet.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, because anybody who ever got a tattoo with a
woman's face or somebody's name on them never, I mean,
that's that's like a for sure. Oh last, that's hitting
at home because that lasts forever.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
And if I was a woman and I saw a
hot guy and he had a baby, tiny little line
on his finger, I'd be like, he's married, that's get
stay away from that one.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Paul had one when I met him, tiny little line.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
No, he had his writing bands. He got it removed,
Oh he did.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Now does he have a white spot there?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, it's totally on. There's nothing there.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I hope when it's you, it's just your face smiling
like that, when.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You know what it is when you're gonna get those tattoos.
A little word to the wise, guys, don't make it
so dark. Make it so that if you ever want
to have it removed, that it's very light. There's a way.
There's it, like.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, you could, you could do multiple ways. But as
I was watching it, all I could think about was
my dad. So, my dad, when he was younger, him
and my mom both got matching tattoos with themselves. My
mom's tattoo was like probably this big, like very very tiny.
My dad got a tattoo of my mom's face the
entire size of his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So when they broke up.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You want to know what he did. It was this
beautiful woman's face. He turned it into Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh well, let me tell you if somebody who's gonna
change my face into someone else is why not who's
better than Jesus? That's actually like you're almost okay with that.
You're like, well, at least it wasn't another woman.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, I mean Jesus, I mean Jesus or gosh, like that,
but hey.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Turn my face into Jesus all day long.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Not offended, not offended, But either way, I'm watching Janet
and Jason. I'm thinking these two protest too much. I'm
over it, trying to give them a little credit. Then
Nia heads over to Kristen's house. They chat about Kristen's
struggles with conceiving. Nia opens up about wanting a mommy makeover.
All this, I'm over it. I'm over it. I don't
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care about the mommy makeover anymore until you get it,
and then I'll say it looks amazing. But I'm gonna
tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Mommy makeover is of all of us who don't know,
which we all know is what is it? It's boobs
light up and tummy tuck. That's a rough one. That's
it's like the trifecta that you know.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's like rough with four little kids.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, she better have some more help than just him.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
She better because even when I had my necklift done,
I love we could do a full podcast twist on
our surgeries. But when I had my necklift on, my
kids were older and I'm still it was rough. Like
still to this day.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'm like, am I swallowing I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
When I got my Brazilian butt lift. I couldn't feel
my butt for a long time. My pants were down
in the back, like literally all the way down. My
whole ass was hanging out. I was walking down the street.
I had bags, and I didn't know that my ass
was out because I couldn't feel anything.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh God, who wants to give a surgery? Ready for
the next.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So Jax goes over to Britney's house to discuss their
co parenting arrangement.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But the first thing Brittany.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Asks him is how many xanax have you taken? Because
I'm not even like yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
No, I saw that, and I mean I don't know, like,
is he taken? That's a problem because you know, that's
the lot of times the precursor to Heroine.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
But also she'd already called him out for doing cocaine
on camera. Now she's got to bring up the xanax?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Is he? But I don't really vehemently just deny it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He just he didn't say how many. Oh, I mean,
I don't know how many is too many and how
many is regular? But I would assume, well, I don't
think he he didn't get that mad about it like
he's like, listen, you already accused me of cocaine.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Maybe he's just sick of hearing her. But I'm starting
to wonder. I'm like whatever, He's like, that's the least
of what you've accused me of these days. But here's
I mean, this fight got to me, to be honest,
it really hurt me. For them, I kind of felt it.
We've all been there. We've all been in that place
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where you can't even look at each other. It's just
to that point there, and then I want to know
why she couldn't look at him. Could she not look
at him because she hates him or because she loves him?
And that's what confused me at the end, Like not confused,
but I was curious.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
My guess is that she is so shocked when he
openly admits that he's not going to help support their child.
She can't look at him. But she seemed fine about everything,
like she kind of was just going through it. But like,
you're not seeing my son, you're not getting my ring camera,
you're not doing this.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
She's setting boundaries. He goes, I came here to set boundaries, bitch.
She already set the boundaries and she and also.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
If you want to set boundaries, and like this comes
from and like I am, I don't know if you
called if I'm in the middle of a divorce anymore.
I was getting divorced and then I almost died, so
then everything got put on hold.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
But like it's just because like.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't think you call it in the middle of
the divorce anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Do you just call it? But we're not back together?
So what do you call?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You just it's hold.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
It's on hold because the one of the people divorcing
is not in a place where she can deal with lawyers.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
No, but listen, it can Yeah, it's just right now,
it's on hold.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, So whatever it is that we call it, not
back together with my ex, not divorced, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
What we are. But I think that.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You have to set up some sort of a schedule
unless she is never gonna let Jack see that her
son again. But like, I don't think there's anything wrong
with Jack's trying to say, Okay, what days can I
see my son?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
There's not. And here's the thing, she cannot fight with
him if they're gonna co parent. I do feel it
should be a supervised visits. She should at least be
around for a while until he does prove himself, which
he hasn't yet, not to me anyway. I feel that
you cannot fight in front of the kids. You cannot.
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And when I was getting divorced, I went to see
a therapist. It was the school therapist, because I had
never heard of a therapist before where I grew up.
I had to go to school one time because I
got up fist fight, and everybody got up fist fight anyway,
so there was the school therapist. So the only one
I knew to cole was doctor Platt. I go to
doctor Platt. I have an infant in one hand and
a three year old hanging off my leg, and I'm
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sitting with all high school kids in the waiting area
and this kid walks out and he's punching and he's
kicking the walls and his mom is behind him, broken hearted,
and I like, go around them. I sit down. I'm broken.
I'm almost half dead. And I said to her, what
do I do to make them not grow up to
be so angry? And she said, don't fight in front
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of them. And then and from there, Teddy, everything halted.
I stopped. I let things go that I didn't care
about money was there. It was there if it was,
and it wasn't. For a long time it was. And
then when it wasn't, I just picked up my big
girl pants and I went and found it myself, like
you know, seeing that child and so much pain and
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her saying that to me was enough for me to
do what I had to do. And it was at
a very good time that I needed and I took.
There was frustration through it, because you know, when you
hold things in, you take them out in the wrong ways.
I wasn't always the best mom, but I'm sure you
were a great mom. One thing I knew to do
was not fight in front of them. And Brittany has
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to understand that she cannot show her hate towards him.
It's an anchor for her. It's detrimental to the baby.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, I think. I mean, I've been told that, you know.
And then if you are to get into some sort
of disagreement in front of your kids, the most important
thing for your kids is to see that you've had resolution.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yes, so there's conflict and then resolution.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Things don't just end human yeah right, yeah, and I'm human,
but I think that's the problem. They have so much
hate and love towards each other, but that they're not
making any of the right decisions, Like I felt like
Jack's probably left this and went and screamed into a
pillow for twenty five minutes, Like I don't think anything
was accomplished.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, so emotions does not travel in rational channels. So
until they can calm their emotionals down, emotion down, there
should be a schedule. There should be a family member
or a close friend for the supervised visit of the
baby with Jack so that she can go but on
a Saturday, on a set day. But until they can
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get to that point, they cannot be together. If they're fighting,
it's no good. Like look at look at Kim Zolesiak
and what's his name? The way they would fight. On Instagram,
I wrote in one time, I said.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Listen, wrote in like I did.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I wrote a comment, I said, they're gonna this is scary.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But how does this work for the show?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Then?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
How are they on a show together?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I don't care about the show. How about that I
care about that kid and the mental health of the
two of them. They don't have They shouldn't listen. People
on our show hated each other and phone for fourteen years?
What do you do you then? You know, just don't
film together. Everybody goes to the party. Stay away from
each other.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, you don't. Don't talk to each other.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Fighting, you know, killing each other. It's not going to
go it's not getting anywhere.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
The only thing it's going to do is it's going
to potentially have both of you lose custody.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And that that's the least of it. How about what
he's going.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
To go through?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
What?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, go what he's going through? You know, where is
he when this fighting's going on? Is he in the
next room? Kids?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
No more than we She was there when she threw
when he threw the That's what.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm saying, yew No, there's still time. He's young enough
where they can redeem themselves and get on with their
family in a nice way. There's love there, however you
want to see it. I do feel like there's love,
but the hate has to be buried and gone. Listen,
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Brittany Jacks is not going to change. He's not going
to get any better. Do not expect anything from him.
Figure out how to make this work altogether.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Figure out how to make yourself happy, and figure out
a way that your son can see his father in
a healthy way.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Correct, And there are a lot of ways it is
it can be done. I hope for them if they
need help finding that somebody steps in and helps them.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I hope that's how we start to like end the season,
because I mean, there's one episode left.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Let's end the season with some resolution to this, because
what I just saw is riveting. It is the price
you pay at the end of the day for this
that your health, your mental stability, the time you've lost
hating somebody, and the toll it takes on your child. Please,
I'm begging them. If you hear me, please you can
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even call me and talk to me. I've been through it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
She will.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I will give you good advice.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I will. I'm here for you.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah. Well, I love you, Dolores, and I will be
talking to you next week