Legally Brunette: Mackenzie Shirilla

Emily and Shane are discussing the murder of Dominic Russo & Davion Flanagan at the hands of Mackenzie Shirilla.

What did they think of the new Netflix documentary on this case? How did they perceive Mackenzie’s parents and their reaction to their daughter’s crimes? Do they believe Mackenzie will ever get out of prison?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, guys, Welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette. I
will be your host today, Emily Simpson with my sidekick
Shane Shane. First of all, I would like to say
that I am super super excited to do this episode. Actually,
I love doing all the episodes, but sometimes there are
things that come out in the news that everybody is

(00:21):
talking about, and this is definitely one of the things
that everybody is talking about. It is called The Crash.
It was new on Netflix a couple days ago. I
watched it. I watched it the day it came out.
You know, though, before we get into it, I just
want to tell you when I was watching it, I
already knew the story. I had seen it before, but
I couldn't remember where.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I had seen it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I thought, well, maybe I saw a twenty twenty episode,
or maybe I saw forty eight hours or something. Because
when they showed the social media clips and the story
it happens in Strongsville, Ohio, I was like, I've already
seen this. I know this, And then I was called
you and I was telling you about it, and then
I remembered you reminded me that.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I had watched documentary on it before. Yes, and
it's called well no, the YouTube channel, right is called
doctor Insanity. Yes, and there's no interviews. It's all bodycam
footage with the narrator. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So I remembered when you told me Shane and I
had watched that on YouTube. They did Doctor Insanity did
an episode on this case, and that's how now I
remember where I knew everything from. And then when I
was watching it, which we'll get into a little bit more,
I remembered that there were some things that I feel
like are left out of the documentary, the Netflix documentary,

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that were in the YouTube version that we saw on
Doctor Insanity. Anyway, all right, let's just go briefly through it,
give us synopsis so we all are on the same page.
It's about McKenzie Shirrilla. So this happened in Strongsville, Ohio
back in twenty twenty two. Seventeen year old McKenzie Shirrilla
deliberately crashed her car into a brick building at approximately

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almost one hundred miles per hour, killing her twenty year
old boyfriend Dominic Russo and their nineteen year old friend,
Davian Flannagan. Both passengers died at the scene. Prosecutors argued
that the crash was intentional. However, Mackenzie's defense insists that
her POTS diagnosis caused the accident to occur.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
We'll talk a little bit later about what that is.
I think POTTS.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I don't know exactly what it stands for, but it's
some kind of condition where I think you have the
tendency to go crazy, well, not well, kill kill people
in the car, not exactly, but I think there's some
dizzy spells that go along with it. Anyway, as I
stated earlier in Netflix, documentary was made on this case

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called The Crash, which premiered on May fifteenth. The documentary
revisits the July twenty twenty two crash and features interviews
with the families and friends of Mackenzie Sharilla, Dominic Russo,
and Davion Flanagan. It also includes the first ever interview
with Mackenzie Shirilla herself, which, by the way, when you
and I watched the episode we saw on Doctor Insanity,

(03:05):
there was no interview with Mackenzie Shrilla herself.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh so there was an interview with like an she
was interrogated.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
No, no, no, they interview her in prison.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh so there's as would you like to be on
this TV show? And I interviewed, yes, so we'll talk
more about that. Yeah. I know that was because when
I had watched the documentary on the case, she had
not yet been sentenced, right, Yeah, so you didn't see.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
So this documentary on Netflix shows the trial, not all
the trials, some of the trial, highlights from the trial,
and then an interview with her from prison.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
The film has drawn significant attention in the day since
its release, and on May eighteenth, Cleveland nineteen News reported
that McKenzie's father was placed on administrative leave from his
job at Mary Queen of Peace School in Cleveland following
the documentary's release. According to the school's website, he is
the art in Digital Media teacher. I would assume that

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once the documentary aired and and those parents.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Saw the things that he said, and they probably all started, well,
we'll get into it.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I feel like when we go more through the case,
but not only do we need to talk about true
crime and intent and whether she intentionally killed them and
all those things, but I think as parents, we also
need to examine her parents, because I think most of
the talk out there on social media has to do
with her and how she you know, intentionally drove her

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car into a brick wall, but also the parents. Her
parents were interviewed for this documentary. I don't know if
that was the smartest thing that they should have done.
They probably should have just kept quiet and not been a.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Part of it. Oh yeah, because what I saw, which
was the documentary I saw, was comprised of just like
bodycam footage and then maybe some social media stud the
animation to kind of describe, you know, like the accent
or something. So the parents were not cool when they
went to arrest her. I mean they were like they
because they had I'm skipping a little ahead. But when

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they have her detained and kind of in the in
the back in an interrogation room, right, not not available,
and like she's not like the front of the police
stage or anything, and the and the parents are there.
They are demanding that she'd be released and then demanding
that they that she have a lawyer, and they're like,
she's eighteen, she can make an own decisions. She's eighteen,
she can make her own decisions. They're like, we're not

(05:27):
having you influencer one. But she's an idiot and wants
to speak we're gonna let her speak. So my point
of that was the parents were very heavily protective of her.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well as parents should be when your child sungary, when
your child is arrested. I mean I probably would do
the same thing. The problem is is that in their interview,
the things that they say, the lack of accountability is
what is so glaring and what I think people who
watch it and go to social media.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I guess that's it. Wasn't the tone of like, oh
my gosh, that's my baby. I was, he's an attorney.
Where is she like? It wasn't like concern for her
kind of the moment that she's in and trying to
care for her. It was like, don't you lay a
finger on her, Leave her alone. She didn't do anything.
The dad even said she was a dumb kid, she

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doesn't know anything. They're like, well, she's d eighteen, right,
she said. That was his last line of defense. He's like,
I don't know what else to say. I'll just say
she's an idiot. Well she is.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
She is MCKIZI yeah, McKenzie. Shrilla grew up in Strongsville, Ohio.
This is northern Ohio.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
These are your.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
People, are these are my people. I actually just say
you got at Ohio. Just just letting you all know.
I flew home from Ohio last night, just got in.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So I was with my to Ohio with you because
there's something in the water there.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
She is active on social media and known for frequently
posting about her personal life and relationships. She begins dating
Dominic Russo her freshman year of high school. He is
a boy from her hometown that is three years older
than her. The relationship is described by friends as on
and off, emotionally intense and unstable at times. So McKenzie
is seventeen and Dominic is aged twenty, and the relationship

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continues to fluctuate. At this point, they have been dating
for four years and are now living together. Can we
just talk about that for a second. First of all,
Dominic has his own house.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
No wonder why they didn't know. I wondered why the
parents don't know when these kids don't come home till
six in the morning or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Because at age seventeen, she's living with her boyfriends already
she had apparently this is the why I understand it.
She had graduated from high school already, but she was
living with her boyfriend, Dominic and Dominic's house.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Also, apparently Dominic has funds.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I mean he seems to be able to fund a
lifestyle because they talk about how McKenzie likes designer things
and Advisor clothes.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That would be my assumption. They know that when they
found the car, there was a scale and there was
mushrooms in there.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right, I know, but I'm saying the scale.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Is that used to make sure you give yourself the
proper dosage. I understand it to distribute, its distribute. I understand.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So Dominic does well financially, but I feel like they
skip over that place. No, he has his own house, yes,
and she went to live with him. My question is
what parents allow a seventeen year old girl.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I know she graduated from high school already, but allow
her to go live with her twenty year old boyfriend.
The Sherrillas do exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Probably like, honey, if you graduate early and you do
it to go live with your boyfriend, I can live
with your boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Mackenzie's camera role shows that they are often doing drugs
and Dominic is frequently buying her nice gifts. Mackenzie is
also closely connected with Davion Flanagan, who is part of
Dominic's friend group. Now, Davion was a big football star
the way I understand it, and then he had an
ACL tear, and I believe that pretty much ended his

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hopes of playing college football. They interview Davion's dad in
the documentary, Dave and his sister, and I believe another sibling.
I think there were three siblings that were all adopted
by this couple, and I felt for the dad. He's
in the documentary a lot. The mother doesn't participate.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And I don't see it. And in the crash that
you saw, they did the police go to Davian's parents
to announce that the son had died. Because in this
documentary they did it was pretty It was pretty bad
to see. I wish I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't know if they included that in this one.
I get mixed dream then I don't think it was
in there. They interviewed him and he was He was
pretty heavily in this documentary giving interviews, and it just
it made me sad because I felt like he started
hanging out kind of with the wrong crowd when he
had that injury. And I feel like if he had

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never had that injury.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I never gone to that party.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Right, So this is July thirty first, twenty twenty two,
So we're getting to the act incident. Now, this is
in the very early morning hours, like we were just
talking about. They're all at a graduation party. There's several friends.
It's a big group of them. They all interview these
friends and the documentary as well. They leave the house

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around five am. So McKenzie Sherilla is driving her Toyota Camray.
She has Dominic Russo in the front passenger seat that's
the boyfriend, and Davion Flanagan is in the backseat. The
vehicles recorded traveling at extremely high speeds through Strongsville roads. However,
they show footage I watched it in the trial. They
show footage where she's actually driving around where she wrecks

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eventually and she's going to normal speed. They show that
she has control of the car at one point that
she's methodically.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
She signaled she was slow like normal and then bam right.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So then the vehicles recorded traveling at extremely high speeds
through Strongsville roads. According to investigators, the car reaches approxim
one hundred miles per hour before impact. It travels directly
into a brick industrial building you know they have.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And that was fast. Did you see the footage? I did.
They showed.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
They showed the footage during the trial. They showed it
multiple times, and you know, I can tell you during
that trial, I think that was the first time that
a lot of people saw that footage. I don't think
it was released anywhere. And I think there were a
lot of people who were supportive of her thinking that
it was an accident that footag until they saw that footage.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Judge said that that footage, that piece of evidence, was
the most damning evidence. She said, any lay person watching
that footage alone would conclude that you purposely tried to
run into the wall. Right the car.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
So the car reaches approximately, first of all, one hundred
miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I mean, that is so well. And it's on a
road that didn't even warrant like like you couldn't even
no one goes that fast on that street. No, like
it was just like a like it went to like
a little commercial or business center right right.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So there was also no indication of breaking or evasive
movement before the collision. Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagun are
both killed instantly, and Mackenzie Shrilla survives the crash with injuries.
Let's talk about that a little bit though, because we
know that Mackenzie was the only one wearing a seatbelt.
The other two didn't have a seatbelt on. Here's my question.

(12:26):
Did she intentionally wear a seatbelt knowing that, first of all,
I Davion was collateral damage to her.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's my thought. They had said that he was hitching
a ride to get home, and she and Dominic, yeah,
that's the boyfriend thought, or you know whatever, had an
issue with him coming, and she was adamant about no,
and then he was more like, let's give him a ride.
So they fought a little bit, probably just for like,

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you know, thirty seconds or whatever, and then eventually Davian
was able to get in the car. And so if
that's true, that kind of demonstrates like she's like, I
only want to kill one person.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Today, right, but now I'm going to have to kill
two because he's in the backside.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Hey David, and I'm trying to tell you, buddy, you
don't want to get any here. I'm going to kill you.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
But my question is she has a seatbelt on?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Did she did? What was her intent with her own life? Right?
Was she prepared to die that day? Legally it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I know legally it doesn't matter. But I'm really trying
to understand what was going through her thought process because
I'm one hundred percent convinced she did it on purpose.
And so if she did it on purpose, does she
know that Dominic doesn't wear a seatbelt? Like does Dominic
not normally wear a seatbelt? And she knows that, so
then she puts a seatbelt on, knowing that she has
a better chance of surviving and that he won't. And

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then Daveyon in the back is just collateral damage. Who
happens to be back there?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't know. All I know is I don't know.
It's probably better she didn't die so she can sit
in her prison cell forever.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Authorities initially treat the incident as a possible tragic high
speed accident. You know the bodycam footage of when the
police officers walk up to this car. I mean, you
can hear the panic in the police officer's voices. It's
it's a that car exploded.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It hit a brick wall at one hundred miles per hour.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
With no breaking at all, no none, none, zero, just
and it just disintegrated and blew up. And when those
police officers with their body cam footage or you know,
they're walking up to the car and they're talking and
they're saying to call the you know, emergency and now
all these things.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
And there they see one body.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I think they see her first, but then they can't
even see the other two bodies at first. They have
to like really get in there and start pulling the
car apart before they even realize there's two other bodies
in there.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Did the documentary show how the vehicle was found? Like, Oh,
they came across it. I don't know. I don't remember.
There was a motorcyclist that rode by about forty five
minutes after the accident. They probably figured forty five minutes
because of the O because of the video cameras, right,
and they figured it. And then when he called it,
and so he called it, reported it and then the
cops come right and he comes by again later on

(15:04):
as a little harley Yeah, and he's just like like
kind of like, oh, what ended up happening?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, he was chill and they were talking to him
He was just more like, that's not a way to
start your Sunday. He was just like very like unemotional.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
So you're telling me that they sat in that car,
but they were all in that car for about forty
five minutes before anyone arrived on the scene at least.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah. Yeah, No, it's forty five minutes from when he called,
and then it was another ten minutes before they were
able to arrive.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So they were in that car for about fifty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
The car, yea. And they might have died on impact,
though I imagine I assume that they did.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
We know that she was alive, obviously, but incapacitated. Investigators
began analyzing the vehicle condition, the road environment, possible driver
impairment or medical emergency, I assume at first, and this
is probably what a lot of people were thinking, was
that there was alcohol involved because they were all at
a party, right, and they find they find I believe
they find mushrooms in her clothing, and then I think there's.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
In the car too. There's pair of mushrooms in the.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Car, and then I think there's also marijuana found as well.
So I'm sure the initial reaction is that this is
some type of impair driving, right, that they're all at
a party, that somebody is high who shouldn't be driving it.
It's a tragic accident with these three young people. Early
theories include that the accident was due to a loss
of control or a car malfunction, or some type of

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medical episode, or a drug related crash, reckless driving maybe
that had gone wrong. However, early data begins to shift
the direction of the case.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
What is that little black box from the car? You
know what it is? THEB two sensor. I love that,
you know that. I think most people do.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I had a note was called it, Well, a lot
of people you hang out with, Oh, I'm sorry, other people,
not housewives, regular people. Well, here in my in my notes,
it says it's called an EDR.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Do you know what that stands for? Now you're gonna
have to look it up.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
The EDR, which is the black box of a You know,
I learned about a black box and a car back
when we did Karen Reid. I wasn't aware that there
was a black box in a car, kind of like
a black box and an airplane that actually records everything,
like going forward, backwards, reverse.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
All those type of things.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I didn't know that it did that, but I learned
that when we did the Karen Reid episodes, and remember
they pulled the information from the black box to talk
about how she had reversed at a certain speed and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
They to start adding like voice recorders in the cockpit
recorders in the cars. Now, yeah, so you can start
to see what happened in our last moments, because you know,
plane has a black box and a cockpit audio recorder, right,
two different devices? Right?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, yeah, you're right, So that's Can you imagine if
we could hear the audio of what happened in that car?
I wouldn't want to either, but I tell you it
would answer a lot of questions because I think that's
what's so.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
I mean, that's the mystery. They would answer a lot
of questions.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well, that's the mystery of this case, is what happened
in those How many seconds did it take once she
hit the gas at full throttle to go one hundred
miles an hour towards towards a brick wall? I mean,
was Davy on in the back?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah? Because weren't there kids that looked at their life?
Three sixty some kids kind of we're looking at the
tracks and kind of had they it looked like a
little swerve and then right before and so they were guessing,
of course, and it didn't really matter, but that maybe
he was reaching over in the steering wheel trying to

(18:25):
trying to move it, like don't don't hit the wall,
you know, stop kind of thing. I mean, yeah, that's psycho.
You're in a car and someone you're a passenger, and
they're going that fast towards towards a building, and you
have no ability to stop it. I mean, you know
what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
The most critical evidence comes from the cars. Oh it's
an event data recorder, that's what EDR stands for. It
shows the accelerator pressed at or a near full throttle
in the very final moments, no break application before the impact,
and sustained high speed travel into the crash site. The
prosecutors argue that this indicates that it was a deliberate

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troll of the vehicle, no attempt to stop or avoid impact,
and an intentional acceleration rather than just panic. Now this
when I was watching the documentary on Netflix. I remember
when you and I were watching the Doctor Insanity episode.
To me, it was very clear that the I think
it was the other high school kids because you know,

(19:21):
they all have each other on Life three sixty and
I believe that they had evidence that showed that she
had gone to that specific site previously, I think three
days prior and kind of had driven around.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
She wrapped it out that area. She didn't go ninety
miles an hour into a wall either when she was
doing that.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
No, but she had driven around that area, right, She
had kind of circled.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
It, right, and that area is not en route to
Dabien's house. It's clearly she deviated from the path right
it was, how so, it made no sense that she
went where she went right. Now.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
In this Netflix documentary, they show some of these high
school kids that are go in and they're talking to
the investigators and they're kind of showing the Life three
sixty and stuff, but they do not And maybe I
missed it, but my takeaway from the Netflix documentary was
that they did not make it clear that she had
three days prior gone to that specific site and had

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driven that path kind of like a pre planning type
of drive buyer whatever you want to cash it. And
then I was thinking to myself, why would they leave
that out because even when they showed parts of the trial,
I don't believe that was shown either.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's important, and I think that's very important.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think that's such a huge important piece of evidence
to show intent and what she was thinking.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
When they show that so and so bought the weapon
on Amazon, it's like it's setting up the crime, right.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So investigators reconstruct the crash using vehicle telemetry data, which
captures exactly how a vehicle is performing, how the driver
is behaving, and the immediate surroundings, the road layout, windy
roads that would require navigation and impact analysis. So the
findings showed that it was a direct path into the building,
which we already talked about.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
There's no you.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Said that there was a maybe on that Life three sixty.
It showed a slight No no.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I said, I don't remember how those kids believe that
to be the case. They were looking at the tracks
in the grass and they kind of came with that conclusion.
Like I said, at the end of the day, it
doesn't matter. Legally, she still killed them.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
So they found that there was a direct path straight
into the building. There was no evidence of swerving or correction.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
No hard breaking in the life three sixty. It was
ninety plus miles an hour or whatever it was all
the way till it.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hit the wall right, No skid marks consistent with any
type of breaking zero and experts testified that this type
of pattern is inconsistent with a typical accidental crash because
if it's an accident, obviously everyone's going to a reaction.
If it's a second before, right, it would break right
nearby Cameras capture the vehicle traveling at high speed before

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the crash, and the footage shows no visible breaking and
no reduction in speed before impact. We already talked about
that security footage. It's they only they don't get the
actual crash into the wall on.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
The Just as it leaves the frame, you hear it right.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You see the car fly by an extreme speed, and
then within a split second you hear the crash, which
sounds like like a bomb.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like a plane crash.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
This used alongside the black box data, is used to
establish a continuous timeline of acceleration.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Okay, so I looked it up. Er, is the black
box airbags go off? You know, braking or engine failure
or something like that, like all those things obed two
sensors more diagnostics of the engine. But I know it
can also do like hard breaking and speed and a
few other things. So it looks like the EDR is

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something that's more newer for this reason to do an investigation.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
They also, I know, they found a slipper that she
had been wearing that day when she drove home at
like five o'clock in the morning. I guess she had
a prod of slipper or something that they found, you know,
kind of lodged under the I think the gas pedal maybe,
So then they they thought, okay, well, maybe her slipper
got stuck on the accelerator or something, but.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
They did.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
No, it was just I believe it was just when
they were storming, they were well, they did all the
testing and the vehicle. They made sure the vehicle wasn't malfunctioning, like,
they made sure the brakes were in working order, and
that the accelerator and that there wasn't anything stuck, and
then they found the slipper kind of lodged underneath the
gas pedals. So then they tested that, but they just
came to the conclusion that it was.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Just what's her story? Does she claim that she didn't
see the wall or what her story.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And she's been consistent. I got to give her a
credit for consistency. She says that she does. She only
remembers leaving the house that morning, and she has no
recollection of anything after that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's it. It's as easier and so that's her story.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
She stuck to it when she was in court and
when they interview her again at the end of this documentary,
when they interview her in prison, it's basically like, I
just remember leaving the house and I don't remember anything else.
And that is her story.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's what my dad said to say, and that's what
I'm saying, and.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's what I'm sticking to, and that's what she says.
So on November of twenty twenty two, Mackenzie Sherrilla is
arrested and charged in connection with the deaths of.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
We Skip Halloween. Was she dressed up as she dressed
months later three months later? Actually she dresses up as
like a corpse. Yeah. I shed blood on her and
makeup to look like a corpse and ripped clothes. Yeah,
I'm expectedly have like a you know, I don't know,
a steering wheel around her at or something. God I
mean that's what she was doing.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, I mean everything she did was tone deaf.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
After those those two reactions and attention.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well, I don't you know, they show a lot of
her interaction on social media. She kept posting like her
outfit of the day, and she kept trying to reach
out and.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
She was saying, I can do all kinds of drugs.
I'll never die, like I can't die. And she said
stuff like that, and You're like, okay, you think you're
invincible now, yeah, And I I know that.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Davion's dad talked about her social media and how even
her mom was in it where it was like someone,
you know, some company reached out to her and said
we want to, you know, send you something. And then
the mom replied, oh my gosh, Mackenzie would be so
great to get it would be so great to get
a PR package. She's been trying to get a PR package.
And this is after the murder.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
So I'm saying the dad of Davion Flanagan, when he's interviewed,
he shows these social media posts where it's like the
mom Mackenzie and her mom, I mean, she just killed.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Two people and she yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
She's out there trying to get collabs in pr boxes
and you know she's just posting on social media and
completely tone deaf and you know doing she's just out
and about, you know, trying to be an influencer.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
And that's beyond tone deaf. She killed them. I know
it's need be a little more sensitive. Mackenzie, you just
killed someone. I mean, it's like there is no word.
I don't know what's beyond tone deaf.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't even know what you call it insanity, I
don't know, but.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I mean the mother, I mean the mother, those parents
were totally on board with their daughter is a saint.
I would never do such a thing.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, absolutely, And I mean the dad even makes some
remark on this Netflix documentary. I don't remember exactly what
it was, but Mackenzie got in trouble at school for something.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't remember what it was. People talk about how
she was a.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Bully, and you know, she wasn't nice, and she was
she got in trouble and she was defiant and all
these things. I guess he went to the school and
she said I didn't do it. He was like, well
that's good enough for me, and I grabbed her and
I left and I took her home and I thought, wow,
I mean that, just right there in this interview bite,
right here in front of the world, millions of people
watching this, you basically just said my daughter can do

(26:52):
anything she wants to do and there's no accountability, and
I will support her one hundred percent. And I'm telling you,
these parents were so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
In this documentary.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
That's why he's on administrative leave. Because I think people
watched it. They know he's a teacher at that private school.
Those parents of these private school killers, we don't want
this guy associated with the school. We paid money for
our kids to go there, and so I bet they
got a plethora of emails from parents saying he doesn't
represent what you know, what our school is, what we're

(27:24):
paying for. And that's why he's on administrative leave.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Right His integrity is in question exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Also, there were cell phone forensics, so there was text
messages that proved Mackenzie and Dominic's relationship was extremely volatile.
Mackenzie had threatened to crash her car with dom in
the passenger seat once before.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
They showed.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
They brought this up during trial, they said Dominic Russo's
mother testified that Dominic. That's the boyfriend had called her
and said that he was in a.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Car to come pick him up.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And when it picked up, because he was scared because
she was driving erradically and threatening to kill him or
something in a car crash.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think it was the other way around. He was
dry being probably her car, because they said that was
pretty typical, and she kept hitting him and he couldn't drive,
and he was afraid to crash. She was such an
obstruction to him by hitting him and causing issue and
probably saying things that were you know, I.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Think this is another specific event. I think that she
was driving and she threatened to crash, and that's and
he had called his mom and said that he was
scared to be with her.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
This is another specific right.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And the mom sent a friend. His name's Hench. I
don't know what that means. I don't know if it's
a boyfriend or what, but to come and find him
because he was scared of being in the car with her.
So they testified about that in court, and that was
another piece of evidence to establish that she had previously did.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
They show the audio the It was a video clip,
but it was record. It was a video showing another
phone playing an audio clip. Did they show that, I
don't know what was The boy friend's phone had like
an audio message from her, and so I think the
brother was doing his own little investigation off the brother

(29:09):
after his brother died. He kind of you know, poked around, right,
and there was an audio message. Basically she was saying,
I'm going to kill you, like if you don't come
over you, if you break up with me, I can't live.
I'm going to kill you like that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Oh yeah, that's when she was trying to break into
his house and she went and leave.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, I think it was a fifteen minute message. Yeah,
it's like psycho. Yeah, they showed that in course, and
he goes to a party with her. See how does
that work?

Speaker 1 (29:35):
This is this is young crazy love Dominic should have
gone away from that girl a long time ago, and
Daveon should have never gotten in the car that day.
And all we can do is say that that should
have never happened, but it did. Yeah, and it's it's
just a horrible, horrible situation and tragedy.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
There was some of the kids that came in that
were the associated with them that came in and were
interviewed by.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
She was so I think she was so obvious in
her craziness that it caused kids on their own to
talk about it, look into it, and then bring their
own testimonies to these investigators. Right.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
There was the one friend that came in I don't
remember his name, but he was interviewed by the police,
and he said, because I think the question comes down
to why did dom continue to stay with her if
she was so crazy?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And another question I think is is do you think
she tried to kill herself or this them like what
do you what do you think of this accident?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
And that's when he said.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
He said that he she she claimed to do voodoo
on him?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Is that what it was? He claimed that she did voodoo? Right,
He claimed that she did voodoo. He said it kind
of like like, oh yeah, she knows voodoo. Like he
said it kind of like like you know, like she
got a book and she learned how to voodoo voodoo
on him and so he's trapped, yeah, and then she killed.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Him and he can't get out, yeah, And that's where
it's at.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
He said it, so like not sure you know voodoo? Voodoo? Right?
Then two other kids came forward with Life three sixty. Yeah,
and they showed look, ninety plus miles an hour or whatever,
one hundred miles an hour, non stop, no hard break
like they showed it. I think that's when they showed
the trail of her going several times. You know, I

(31:18):
think so too.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
But I think also there was surveillance video that caught
her the three days before.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well it caused them to do that too.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
But I'm telling you, and maybe I'm wrong, but I'm
telling you. In that Netflix documentary, when those kids are
showing the three sixty and they're showing the path, they
do not make it clear that it was three days
prior and that she was scoping out the situation. Yeah,
all right. So we get to November of twenty twenty two,
Mackenzie Sherrilla is arrested and charged in connection with the

(31:46):
deaths of Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. Prosecutors charged her
with two counts of murder aggravated vehicular homicide. The cases
move forward as a serious felony case and adult court
due to the severity of the allegations, despite her young
age at the time.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
You know, five days before eighteenth birthday.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Anyways, I actually loved to seeing her get arrested. She
acts so surprised, like what, well, I think she was surprised.
She was surprised though she wasn't acting. Do you think
she thought she thought she got away with it? She
didn't think they were going to arrest her. She's over
there on social media making videos and dressing up like
a corpse and getting collabse and doing outfits of the joke,

(32:25):
smoking pot and rolling around in cash. She doesn't care.
She doesn't think she's getting arrested. The defense argues that
Mackenzie Shrilla did not intentionally cause the crash. Their main
points include that it was a possible medical emergency related
to Mackenzie's POTS condition. Pots can affect neurological functions, causing dizziness, lightheadedness, feigning,

(32:47):
and severe brain fog. However, you know what, during the
trial they claim that she has this you know, disorder,
and that could have been a possibility, But they don't
have any type of medical testimony about.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
It because she's history of it.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Probably well, I think she was actually diagnosed with it.
But I'm saying they don't have a medical.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Why expert expert why.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I don't know, but that's part of why she tries
to appeal her case, or she I think she tries
to get I don't know if it's on appeal, or
she tries to get a new trial based on ineffective
council saying that her defense attorney should have had you know,
medical experts to testify as to her disorder. So anyway,
she goes to trial. We get to twenty twenty three.
This is in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, and she opts for

(33:29):
a bench trial, which I guess in Ohio you can
have a bench trial or you can do a jury trial.
I don't know if you were Mackenzie Sherrilla. Which is
better for her a bench trial or a jury Probably
a bench.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Trial, I don't know. The thinking behind a jury is
you might get a sympathy vote. Right, well, you know,
I OJ wanted a jury trial because you want a
football fan on there that's going to say, oh, Jay
didn't do it right, right right? He won the Heisman Trophy,
he couldn't kill his wife.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I also read because I was looking up what the
benefits are, and I read that if you have a
case that's technical that has yeah, that is complicated or
might have for judge won't let you that. It's better
to have a bench trial because a judge is more
able to decipher things than to really think critically about

(34:17):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
If there's like contracts or something really like that or
you know, then they'll have a bench trial. But also
you want to ben trap. You think like that judge
is seen it all. Yeah, he's not going to care,
like he's going to think like she deserved it, you know,
if it's like an assault case or something. Yeah, So
sometimes you want to bench trial if a judge isn't
going to be so sensitive so sympathetic, Yeah, and he'll

(34:39):
be kind of like right, thirty days, you're fine.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
So Mackenzie's case is heard in a bench trial, so
there's no jury and this is at Mackenzie's choice. The
prosecution argues that the crash was intentional, uncontrolled, not accidental,
and the defense maintained that it was a medical emergency
and lack of intent argument throughout the trial. They claim
Mackenzie was not suicidal and would not risk her own life.

(35:12):
You know, that's my only I'm one hundred percent convinced
she did it on purpose. It was intentional, She wanted
to kill her boyfriend. She was crazy, all those things.
I still don't understand what she thought was going to
Was she okay dying that day.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
As she thought, I'll put on a seatbelt and.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Hope for the best, right, And it just worked out
for her, right?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
But if not, she was that was the risk she
was willing to take in order to kill her boyfriend.
But they weren't broken up that night. They were at
a party together. So why did she do it that night?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Because I heard or read that he had been talking
about how he wanted to get away from her and
that he did want to break up with her. And
I have a feeling that maybe when she left the
car that morning, and we don't know what happened in
that car when they left at five am and they
were driving away, maybe it came up.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Maybe they got in an argument.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Maybe he said something like, you know, this isn't working
out and then.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Driving erratically, Yes you're driving with you? You know the
two boys that came in with the Life three sixty
to show her her activity, which was actually Davian's activity
Life three six. Oh yeah, they were actually Davian's friends technically,
like they came in as Davian's contacts his friends and

(36:23):
showed that they had Life three sixty connected with Davian,
And then I understand Life three sixty is well, you
can have a setting, you have it always on or
only on when you have the app open, right, And
for whatever reason, they were saying they believed Davian was
on his phone, that's why the Life three sixty was working.

(36:43):
And they're saying he was probably on his phone because
they were fighting so much in the front two seats
that he wanted to stay out of the whole thing.
He just wanted to go home, so like he probably
just buried his head in his phone and just played
on his phone while they were fighting. Anyway, that was
just a way of saying they were probably bickering in
the phone, which is what you were wondering, if ye
he's going on in the car.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean, obviously we'll never know what happened, but
my theory would be they left that morning and that
there was some type of argument between the two of
them and that he had said something about leaving or
breaking up, and then that's when she took the opportunity
and that's why she went a different paths. She knew
exactly where she was going to go, she'd already scoped
it out.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
So you don't think she said after this party Tawara
and iight, I'm going to kill him. It was more
like she was on the verge and then he gave
her another the reason that put her over the top
to pull the trigger.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I think she was obsessed with him and she wanted
to think. Yeah, I think she was obsessed with him.
I think she wanted to be with him. I think
she wanted to marry him. When there are rumblings from
him that he's not happy, that he's suggesting that they
break up, that he's saying, you're crazy, I can't do this.
Then I think her way of preventing him from ever

(37:49):
being able to break up with her is this car
crash theory that she has that she'll just take him out.
And so I think that she pre planned it and
drove her and knew exactly what she was going to do.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I don't think she knew when she was going to
do what. It could have been that she didn't want
dabying in the car. Let Let's there's two scenarios. Either
she got in the car with the plan, or she
got in the car and then planned it right. Lynn thought, Okay,
screw you, I'm going to kill you. Right. So either way,
she wouldn't want Daby in there, she wouldn't want dating
in there because she wants to be a dominic hall
herself or whatever and talk with him. Or the other

(38:23):
scenario was I'm gonna I have plans Dabian and they
don't include you.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I just think something happened in the car.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I don't think made her think okay, this is it.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, because I don't think she left that morning from
that house thinking that she was going to do that
as she tim, because they were fell asleep together and
I think maybe there was even someone that said that
they had like he like rubbed on her hair.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
And I don't think they got in a fight at
that house, like they were cuddly.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I think something happened in that car that triggered her
and then.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
She knew exactly what she was going to do and
she did it.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
So the judge this is in August of twenty twenty three,
the version it comes out, and the judge finds that
Mackenzie Sharilla guilty on all counts, including two counts of
murder aggravated vehicular homicide and the court concludes that the
crash was intentional rather than accidental. During her sentencing, the
victims made impact statements. Christine Russo, who is Dominic's mother, said,

(39:18):
I lost three children in that crash. Not a minute
goes by each day that I don't think about my
son as well as Davion. My heart is forever broken.
Devine Flanagan Mackenzie. I guess I'm sure she was a
kid that came over the house. She probably had an
attachment to Yeah, this is Davion's sister. I thought she
spoke very well for her young age. It showed her

(39:39):
come up and speak. She asked that the court gives
Shriilla the longest possible sentence. Natalie Sharilla, who is Mackenzie's mother, Okay, this.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Was this was this is the statement of all statements.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
This was so embarrassing. I had a secondhand embarrassment watching this.
She goes up to speak, and she spoke only of
her daughter's innocence. She does not say anything about the
other It's too late. She's already convicted guilty, I know,
but she's I'm sure well, she hasn't sentenced her yet
so I know, so the mom's pleading for the lesser
amount of time.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Shouldn't you plead Yeah, but shouldn't you plead on? Like
like she has goals and she she just made a
mistake kind of thing, like she can get back on
the right path after she serves a sentence, not like
you're wrong, you're on. And the end, the judge is
the one that found her guilty. Yeah, so she's trying
to tell the female judge that she was wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
She spoke only of her daughter's innocence. And when the
judge asked why she would not speak about the victims,
she gave half hard responses, saying they'll miss Dom dearly
and called Davion a new friend.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I tell you. When she called, the judge said to her,
you're talking about your daughter, but you have you showed
a remorse because you haven't even talked about the victims
at all. She killed two people and you're you're up
here giving right.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
And then she said oh yeah, yea yeah, and then
she the mom, the mom back pedals and she's like,
oh yeah, yeah, we we love Dom.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, and you know, Davion, you know it's great. Yeah,
She's like, God's great.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
And then she when she refers to davey On, she goes, well,
and you know, Davion, I don't know, he's a new friend.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
And the judge was like, what does that have to
do with Yeah, no sense she was gonna get anyway,
But that sure didn't help. That probably made it worse.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh the mother, I was like, I had secondhand embarrassment
watching this mother. It was so cringey, and the judge
was just hardcore reprimanding her. She looked like an idiot.
She it was so embarrassing. She didn't do anything to
help her daughter. All she did was make it a
million times worse.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
She looked like a complete idiot. She proved everyone's understanding. Yeah,
Mackenzie is the psychokiller, right.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Mackenzie actually spoke and called Dominic her soulmate and said
that the families of Dominic and Davion, I'm so deeply sorry.
I hope one day you can see I would never
let this happen or do it on purpose. I wish
I could remember. And then she ends it with I
wish I could remember what happened. She's sticking to that story.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Why how would that help Mackenzie, What was she trying
to say?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well, she's sticking to that she just doesn't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I mean, she's gonna stay. She's just trying to reiterate.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
She's reiterating that, you know, she I didn't do it,
I don't want to do it. That if I don't
know what happened, I had no intent. Right, it all
goes to intent. The reason she was found guilty was
because she intentionally killed them. She intentionally hit the gas
one one hundred miles an hour and intentionally drove into
a wall. If she continues to stick to I don't
know what happened, I don't remember anything, then there's no intent.
And so that's what she's sticking to. Clearly her attorney

(42:27):
told her that, and she is just her.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Dad and her mom and dad. Right.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
So at the sentencing, Mackenzie sherrilla. It sends to fifteen
years to life for each murder conviction served. Concurrently, she
will be eligible for Pearl after serving the minimum term,
which is estimated to be around twenty thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Did you see the sentencing that judge actually hand over
the sentencing, Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, she said, you'll
never get out. Yeah. I think I took it as
like you're such a conceited yeah brat, Yeah that you'll that, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Then at the end, this is the part. So you
didn't see this because you didn't see the Netflix version.
But they do interview her. They show her come in
to the prison and they interview her. First of all,
she should be found guilty just bite. She has the
most ridiculous bun in her hair. That bun, she the
bun is a crime. She should be in prison just

(43:24):
for the bio.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Didn't get out on good behavior because she had an No.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
That bun is ridiculous. In her mirror, No, she does
because she has makeup on. She looks nice. She put
herself together so that that bus kill, that bun was intentional.
She answers some questions, she doesn't really say much, and
then in the end, I love.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
That the producers did this. They they all.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Her attorney is present in the room with her. You
don't know it when she's being interviewed because he's off
to the side, he's not on camera. Because they ask
her like, do you want to say anything else or
something like that, is there something else you'd like to say?
And she goes, no, I just want to really hammer
down the no intent thing, right, like the no intent
and then she she kind of refers to the attorney
and no intent right, and you can hear him speaking,

(44:15):
and she speaks to him. And they left that in
there to show she.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Has an attorney here help guide her, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
And you know, I thought, this this girl and if
she had, if she had a mother, a good mother
at all, this mother would say to her, You've done
a horrible thing and now you're going to pay for it,
and you need to spend your time making yourself a
better person. You need to figure out a way in
prison where you can help other people, where you can
show remorse. You need to write letters to these families.

(44:45):
I don't know whatever it is. You need to join
a group, You need to find Jesus, you need to
whatever it is. But she needs to do something that
shows that she has a soul and that she's.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Trying to work on herself. To Chris Watts who killed
his wife, right, pregnant wife and two little girls. And
then the father in the interrogation room was very yeah,
Chris Watt's father, the mother's father was very much like
you need to come, like, you need to tell us
what happened. This is your chance. Where are they? What happened? Like,

(45:21):
let's just lay it all I don't remember his words,
but he was like, just lay it all out on
the table and let's move on. So now that's what
this mother needs. That dad to say that you could
tell he was I don't want to hear the answer,
but he was wanted. He want the answer needed to
be known. And because of him, they found her quickly
and the two girls, which they might have never found

(45:42):
because they were putting those tanks. Those tanks right, And
so yeah, that father did the right thing exactly. This mother,
she's awful.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Right at the very end of this documentary, this is
where she has the opportunity to change public opinion of
who she is, to talk about remorse or what she's
doing to better herself, or how she's going to change
the world or help people or do anything good to
show that she has any kind of soul.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
And she doesn't. No, She'll still be in there for her.
Did did you see how she tried to negotiate with
the whoever was interrogating her in the very beginning, saying
she said, she said like, well, can I just like
lose my license for ten years or something? Oh? That's

(46:28):
what she was like, Oh okay, well this negotiate it.
Oh youah, no problem. Ten years sounds good to us, Right,
that's a fair deal. You want to talk about tone deaf. Yeah,
two people are dead, and she's thinking about her driving
as a punishment. And I think she said it in
the tone of like that would also suck for her.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, yeah, like that, I'll sacrifice that, right, Like, I'll
give that up, right, And I was like, you're not
going to drive ever, Right, you're done. Just one last
thing before we conclude the episode. But now, because this
case is everywhere, it's all over social media. Now, I've
seen so many audio clips of what do they call

(47:10):
jail house recordings between her mother, Natalie, and Mackenzie. And
once this documentary, we'll take number one on netilize.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
She sentenced phone calls with her.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Mother, well the other several, but I'm going to talk
about just specifically in this very recent timeframe, within the
last couple of days again.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Way after her she's right guilty, the.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Mother called her and was telling her about how popular
this documentary is and they are giggling on the phone
and talking about how it's.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Global and she's so excited that.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Daily Mail picks it up the comments on social media
and then normally Shane says, don't read the comments, but
in this situation he would like Mackenzie to read the comments.
But then she makes the comment and says something to
the effect of I hope Kim Kardashian, you know, helps me,
or something.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Like they'll like what, They'll do a movie about her,
and then Kim Kardashian will play her. I think, because
does it because.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Community wrongly convicted and wrongly convicted? Well, she's convinced that
she's wrongly convicted and she's going.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
To keep convicted. Right. Do you think that she thinks
she didn't do it like she's so crazy? Or do
you think she's a sticking to her story and she's
used to crying and complaining and then her dad and
everyone saying it's okay, dear. That is a really good question.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I always have this question about other people too in
our lives when I say when I say things like
do you think she knows that she's lying?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Or is she just so delusional that she actually believes
her own lives.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Remember, we say that about a lot of people, So
in this instance, it's the same scenario.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Does she truly believe she's innocent because she's just that
delusional and she's had no accountability her whole life and
she has horrible parents. Or is she absolutely lying and
she knows she's lying, but she's just the skids math
and she doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I think the way she's lived, she whines, complains, stop
her fee, and she's so obnoxious that everyone around her
price says okay, okay, okay, fine, fine, we won't break up, okay, okay, okay, fine,
keep it okay, okay, you didn't do it fine, because
they're probably so fed up with her that they always given.

(49:32):
But in this case it didn't work. Right, Judge, isn't
gonna be like okay, fine, fine, fine, fine, go away. No.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I if I had to pick, I would say, I
think she's well aware that she's lying, and she knows
that it was intentional, And I just think she has
no soul. I think she I think she is a
soulless person that should spend the rest of her life
in jail, and that's where she deserves to be. And
that's that and she will be yeah, all right. Thank

(49:57):
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Speaker 2 (50:18):
I would say, let us know if you like her
bun or not. Oh you is the bun the worst crime? No, no,
the loss of the two boys.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Exactly, But that bun is a crime. We can say
that it is a crime.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
It is jealous.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I'm jealous of her bun, of her hair team, of
her hair, of her glam team. That's going to be
my next confessional.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Look, wouldn't be the worst one. It would be better
than one. Or well, there was one bad one last year.
Pull a but off like that.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
It's you all right, thank you all right, thanks for listening.