May 16, 2026 • 22 mins
Is this sisterhood thing BS? We've reunited "sisters" 30 years later to find out if the bonds are real.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia, Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi, guys, welcome back to Dirty Rush. I am your host,
Jen Fessler, and today we are mixing things up, so
instead of chatting with recent grads, I've got a group
of women who are a little further down the road
from their sorority days. We are bringing in Judy and Janet. Hi, ladies, Hi,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Jennifer U here, thank you so well.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
First, guys, tell me where you went to school and
what sorority you were in.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Judy, I University of Southern California and we were in
Delta Camma, got it? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And I know you graduated different years. Janet, when did
you graduate?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I graduated in nineteen eighty eight, okay?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And Judy ninety one.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I graduated right in the middle nineteen ninety not that it.
And Annett, have you did you move straight to Vegas
after graduation? No?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Actually, I wanted to be in fashion, so I moved
straight to New York City and I was.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
There probably for fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Years until I married my husband and we moved back
to West La got it, and then we moved to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
For my husband's job, like ten years later, nights later.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, okay, okay, So listen, guys, We're going to talk
about what it's like those friendships that you know, we
form in sorties, and you know, if those friendships stay
with you for life. I think, in my case a
lot of them. Did I want to know about you
guys though, tell me about the women in DG. Were
(01:43):
they just college friends or do you have a lot
of sisters that you're still in touch with and that
are your closest friends?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Janet tell me a little.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, a kind of funny thing I think in our
generation is we Firstly, I loved my experience as a DG.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I lived in the house the whole time. It was
the best.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But then we didn't have social media like now, so
it was very hard to keep in touch. When I
moved to New York, I didn't know about you, Judy,
but there was only you know, that was very odd
at the time because most people stayed in California and
we couldn't really stay in touch with our sorority sisters
because like, no one was there maybe two people would
move to d C or something, so you kind of
see people.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Going in and out.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But I did an event for USC a couple of
years ago at our house here in Las Vegas, and
I was thinking about the most like significant things that
have happened in my life. And the funny thing is
that so many of them have been brought about by
my soberarity sisters. So like, for instance, my husband, who
I'm madly in love with. She I was living in
(02:42):
New York. Her husband worked at Morgan Stanley with my husband,
and when I was coming home to visit my family,
she fixed us up and we fell in love, and
I moved back and then, you know, there's just been
so many instances like that. Our you know, best friends
would move years later and we'd come to New York
and then we all become best friends again, and I
think the bonds are just so so special, and yeah,
(03:07):
so it's just been great.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You bring up an interesting point because I graduated ut
North Texas in nineteen ninety, so, right, we didn't even
have cell phones, right, Oh, No, it was such It
was such a different time, and it was if you
wanted to stay in touch, you were making a It
used to be called youngin's a long distance phone call, right,
or you wrote something called a letter. But I remember
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that feeling because I moved straight from Texas to New
York City.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I remember feeling that that loss.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know, just awsome these sisters because they are really
none of my None of my AFI sisters moved to
New York. So I was the ones for my pledge class.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
What about you, Judy, Yeah, I had a little kind
of a mixed experience. When I first graduated, I moved
to DC. My boyfriend at the time, he was in
med school and I moved. I was a polyside major communication,
so I wanted to move DC. It just kind of
worked out. So I moved into a row house with
about four other sorty sisters, so I kind of continue.
(04:12):
But they were older than me, so that went to
row house.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So in washingt d C.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Their houses are in Rose in Georgetown, I guess I
just called it.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So the houses are like almost.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Sheer walls, so you're really close with your neighbors, and
there's lots of them. They're beautiful, sort of collegey.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's not no.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
I had a senator across the street, a lobbyist here,
but they were one person in these homes.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
There was six of us, six geirls.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I shared a room with another girl in a bathroom
because you were used to. I literally was just like, Oh,
that's no big deal. I don't think I could do
it today. So I lived with my sorty sisters for
a few years, all different schools. Some of them were
DG's at different schools, and uh, we're a different ages.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
One was at the Pentagon, but Taylor was at the Taylor.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Yeah, she was roommate. She had the biggest room that
she had, the whole top floor. Obviously she was so
it still kind of worked like this already help. And
then once I got married and moved to New Orleans,
That's when I really felt the shift and didn't have
as much contact with my girlfriends. Once I got married
and was living not in California, and I remember being
devastated that I.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Could not afford to fly to my friend Amy's. I'm
going to cry still. She asked me to be in
her wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I know, I'm so sad, so sad.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
What it is you get married, you have no money,
you know, you spend all your wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I know, but the back that you would actually be
brought to tears By.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That is so you Yeah, I still think about it.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
I was like, so sad I couldn't be there to
be in your best girlfriend's wedding. It only happens once, hopefully,
No it does. It speaks also those bonds, those you know,
sisterly bonds.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
But okay, go on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
No, that was pretty much it. So that's been my experience.
And then I have stayed. I really tried. I think
probably a little more than my girlfriends have because they
all still live in California together, So I think I
make a little more effort to try to bring us
together because I'm sort of in Vegas. There's not as
many girls that left California, right my sorty.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So I sort of started.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
A text group and then I just recently joined the
fifty one Pledge sisters text group that was started, and
that's been really fun. We all kind of share our
little businesses or little you know, celebrations of our kids.
So that's been nice. And oddly I just found out
Facebook Messenger. I had like a hundred messages. I never
saw about these reunions that I missed. I was always
like seeing photos. I'm like, oh, shoot, I wish I
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knew about that. Well, apparently there was messages.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Social media is sometimes they.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like, I think it's junk mail. That wasn't right.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Yeah, so I would say, you know, it's been hard.
It is really hard to keep in touch. And there
are some girls that when we pledged with we never
saw them again.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Right down, Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, you really have to make an effort.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But it is cute gity like when you say that,
because I lost touch with a lot and you probably
saw a couple of my the SORTI sisters that we
have a good holiday party. Yes, yes I did, but
further on that I hadn't really kept in touch with everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You're right with the reunions.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I never went to any because we travel, like all
of you know, travel, and we couldn't do them. And
so this year we're all turning sixty. Now Gendie's younger
than I am, so we're all turning sixty. So I
said to my couple of girlfriends who have you know,
very still very close with, They said, come down to
our house in Newport, let's celebrate our sixtieth. And so
my girlfriend put it out to the whole group text
because we're all turning sixty this year, and now like
(07:31):
forty people, like almost our whole pledge class is coming
down and they all got a hotel rooms.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I want to come.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I know you're someone you don't want to be sixty,
you guys. So that's that's the downer of it, right
around the corner.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But it's cute. But it was cute. You know. See
everyone was so excited to see each other.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You have a whole agenda, do you have, like you know,
just the schedule and like things, I mean, are there
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, totally, Like I'm doing one big dinner at my
house one night and then you know Tammy Tucker remember her.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
GD Yeah, totally.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, I think I ran into her like some ski
place Deer Valley or.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh yeah, so it's gonna it's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah it'll be.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But I'm just you know, it's been how everyone wants
to see each other, and you know, it's like your
time has passed.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Ye gets referring to me seeing her friends. She shouldn't
go last minute. I don't know if you I'm sure
you're familiar with page of page danim.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Am I I amare hanging over y.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Page was my big sister.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
She was a DJ, and I asked her to be
on here today and she had plans, but she definitely
would love to be on.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Did she have a discount code she gave you for
us or you.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Know, she did do a discount code for Nathan Allison
Hospice is a luncheon that she agreed to be kind
of saved us as the fashion house because I do
not mean it for us.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Oh no, no, no, no, of course not no.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
But she was so sweet. She did a discount code
for the DG's that day and as she did a
pop up, it was really cool to kind of bring
her back.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, so you guys feel like there's something different in
terms of because you know now that we are we're
all around sixty Janet, but like versus your sorority reunions,
Like I'm very close with I have three best friends
from high school and so we see each other. I
went to high school in Houston, Texas, so we see
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each other once a year.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
My friends.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
My friend has this amazing house on the Chesapeake and yeah,
it's it's really really fun in Maryland. So yeah, but
there's four of us, you know, there's a lot of
sorority sisters, and it's a different type of closeness of Yes,
we had so much fun in a five in college.
High school is such a different time. It was a
(09:51):
time of kind of struggles. I mean college too, you
trying to you're figuring out who you are, yes, right,
but just different different parts of in terms of growing up.
Are your high school friends you feel like you have
those same types of relationships different the same?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, I still have a few high school friends. Probably not.
I don't keep in touch with them. I try, but
they none of them really stayed in California.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
A lot of them left. Yeah, makes it a little harder.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I do try to keep in touch with them, for sure,
the ones over there, but probably not as much as
I think.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'm a little more closer, but it's hard to say.
It's different. It's a different type of closest. Yeah, they
knew me when I was a lot younger.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I have a few friends from high school that I
went to college with and we're my storty that I
keep in touch with.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
So that's cool. That really goes deep, right, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
About your bearing it?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's I to be honest, that's I have you know,
GD knows one of our girlfriends who lives in New
York City, Donie Bomber. But other than that, and she
was my little sister when she she pledged also, and
that I think is my only high school friend.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I would have loved.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You guys went to high school together, You and Donna.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We've known each other since a grade. Yeah, where did
you guys go high school?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Glendale, lamorous Glendell High School.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But yeah, it's so much fun. But I think honest
to be you know, honest back then, right you weren't.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It was hard to keep in touch because everyone was
a different universe, you know, schools that they didn't go
to your school, and you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Know, and you moved and I moved to New York, so.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You have to make that plan every year right there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And then also in the Storty day, you think we're
so close, especially the girls that live like I lived
always in the Storty. I loved it, And I just
feel like you're so close because you're living together. Yeah,
all the funny stories people with their boyfriends coming home.
I mean, it's just like, you know, it's a wild,
free time and you just really know the real them.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I agree any of your sorority friendships outlasted other relationships,
(12:05):
I don't know. I mean, listen, marriage is in this
day and age come and go, or maybe even family.
Really there have you found that some of the sorority
relationships have lasted longer than other ones?
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Other relationships in your life.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Have a EGV for sure?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I mean I've had some friends that I've sort of
fallen out of touch with that I was very close
when I was younger that I thought I wouldn't fall
out of touch with, but I continue to stay in
touch with.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And it's I want to say, it.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Might just be that time period in my life that
I've stayed in touch with. I mean, I do think
the sorority does add that extra bond. But I also
have friends that I've made in college at USC that
weren't necessarily in my sorority that I definitely have kept
in touch with. But there is something about authority that
does cause your brain. I think it's just that sort
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of time in your life. Your brain is still developing, right,
You can't help but have this sort of neat relationship
during that time of your life and also with families
of my story sisters. I'm really of parents, just the person.
It's really like like I'll never forget when I went
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to my first DG event when I pledged, and it
was like a dad daughter football game, and my dad
showed up and my girlfriend Allison was there with her
dad Dawn, who recently just passed away sadly, and they
were so happy to see each other because they were
real estate buddies. And my friend Elf and I had
no idea and it was just and my dad went
TUSC so he was like super excited and that was
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just like made my experience and that sort of so
like much better that my knew other people, and like
every time we'd get together, it was just like this
big family, especially for me coming from my parents were
born in the twenties, so my dad was like one
of the first people. I was the youngest of six,
so he was one of the first people to go
to USC place all that kind of stuff. So it
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was pretty cool that he meets somebody on his age.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
You know, Yeah, that's very cool.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We'll state it. So, yeah, it was a pretty cool story.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So yeah, Janet, do you feel like friendships that you
make now are different. Every friendship is different, obviously, but
do you think it's harder to connect now or you know,
are the forms the form that friendship takes now? Definitely,
of course it's going to be different the form it
took when you were in when you're eighteen nineteen or whatever.
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But do you think it was easier to get closer
to be have former sisterly bond than than it is now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
One d percent? Right?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because A you don't have the other influences, like you know,
when you are married and have a family, they come
from when you're making a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know, it's not you don't have the time, but
I think also just the fun. You know, it's very
such a care free time and you just have like
funny things happen, right, I mean, you're going to all
these fun exchanges and something like funny thing happens and.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You get fixed out, you know you do duty wouldn't
you wouldn't you know, you'd get fixed up where they
you wouldn't even know the person you're going with. You
totally that you got right to go to parties like
you're going and it's just all those hilarious things happen
all the time, and so then you have all that
you know, fun mutual those fun mutual memories that you
don't have. It's just a different time later in your life.
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And then living together, of course, you know it's hysterical.
You're all sharing the bathroom. Back then, we only had
one phone in the hall, so it's like someone will
be on with their boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You'd be like lined up, you know. I mean, everyone's
wanting Oh my right, you have the housetone. I think
house fund.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I got a phone in our room, but it was
like a voicemail, and.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You had a right and a boyfriend would leave.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
My boyfriend my husband now, he would leave like the
longest voicemails, and it was just hilarious because everybody in
the room, we'd all listen to him screening.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Give me love. That's so cute. I love that, I do.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think, and I think when time passes too, you
really are to see your friends and about hear about
their life or maybe someone that you worked with.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, I went on to work with a lot of
my stors. Oh yeah, when I moved to d C
to LA It's Hurtle, Mariana death Terios.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
All of them were working at Team one ever. Yeah,
So Sue.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Helped me get an interview, and it was a blast
because we worked together.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
So a lot of us in the storty.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
We would apply for jobs on the campus and often
it was you know, working events before the football games
for alumni. Huh, whatever they needed us to do. I
forgot what were called we were called some kind of ambassadorship.
So it started. Then we started working together, me and
my studies, so it was natural that we would continue
working together and get paid, which was Yeah. So we
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kind of already knew how each other worked and trusted
each other because we had already sort of worked in
an environment together and so without even knowing, it was
just an easy like when you needed a little hookup,
you trusted that that person you're for it's going to
do a good job because you were on whatever we
called it the board or what do we call our
officer positions.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
On the board?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think it was the board? Yeah, the board? Okay, yeah,
thank y'all.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
I'm sure I don't know, Jennifer, if you know, like
you to get a good room in the storty, you
had to earn points, right, do you know?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
This?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
The way it did a lottery but go on.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh, you're so lucky. We had to work for it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
We had to.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, you know so many points. If you were like
the president or vice president.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Or the sledge trainer rush chairman. Yeah wow.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
So you'd want to kind of negotiate who your roommate
was to get a good room. You want to be
with someone that also is involved, otherwise that person's going
to pull you down. I did okay the first year,
but the next year, I don't know. I don't think
I held an officer position. So I kind of pulled
my group down. So we got put on the third
level for Allison, and we got a roommate who we loved.
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But it was and it wasn't very cool because it's
like very you know.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It was caught up there. Oh yeah, I was up there.
That can happen too. I think it's so.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Interesting because I feel like if you get a request
from a sorority sister, like let's say, my you know,
my kid, Jennifer, my kid is trying to break into
for me. I don't know podcasting or television or whatever
it is, but there's something about that, like that request
if it's coming from one of yours.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh for sure, right, because it definitely folds weight.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
It does.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I always am hesitant to even ask friends like that,
Like I always am hesitant to ask Page anything because
I know in her heart she wants to do it,
and I don't want her to push herself, you know how.
It's like I just worry about even doing those asks
because I know that's how people feel.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Right, right, right, right right, Okay, So just tell me this.
Do you feel like you can I know what the
answer is gonna be, but I'm gonna ask it anyway,
especially Janet when you have this big reunion coming up,
but even when because it's it is hard to keep
in touch that you get you have a lot of sisters,
not at every school, but you know that. I'm thinking
about keeping constant contact. But do you feel like you
could just pick up immediately where you left off when
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you see your sorority sisters.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think it will be like that. I'm excited. I
think it's going to be a blast.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And it's tat to hear about their life experience and
you know, like what's going on in their kids, and
you know, yeah, it's going to be so great.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think it'll be just like we left off.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I want to come. I think it sounds like the most.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I'm totally inviting myself.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You guys are welcome. Are you kidding? Every year?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
On?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes, it would be so great.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Give me, maybe from each one of you, some advice
you have or graduate from for graduating sorority sisters on
staying in touch after college.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Judy, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Would definitely continue just what I'm doing and set up
a tech stream I think better. So many people aren't
on social media or on different platforms, or like your
messages can go to spam. So I would just say
because I mean, honestly, my biggest advice is literally the
day of graduation and just count on. You're never going
to see some of these people again. I know that
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sounds like kind of sad, but I think if you
have that in your mindset, you're going to make a
little bit more of an effort.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, it's great advice. It is good advice.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I mean, I can remember the party I went to graduation.
It was late and I remember I had to leave
to catch a flight. You know, you can stay all
the night because we were going somewhere, And I remember thinking.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I didn't say by this person that could.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
And I do, because I'm kind of this person. I'm
always thinking about weird stuff like death and well, you know,
only have this much time to live. So I was like,
this may be the last time I see that person.
And sure enough, it was like there are people that
they are just not on social media, right, they are
literally disappeared from this planet. But I know they're alive
and living, and I wonder what happened. It's just like
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there's no way to get a hold of some of
these people, like they've chosen probably to not want to
be a great.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But isn't it a cool feeling like when you all
of a sudden, like you're on social media and you
have one of the I mean we Facebook, I don't know,
you know, an inwustry, but like a lot of the
I'm talking about going back aways and all of a sudden,
people you may know, and all of a sudden, like
this old sorority sister pops up and you're like, oh
my god, and then like you know.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah that they've just sort of been hiding and they're like, hi,
I'm here, I've been what yea, yeah, I say, think
of that, like that might be the last time you
see that person. So really, unless you make an effort,
you may never see them again.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So what about you, Janet? Any advice?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, I think Gud's advice is absolutely right on. And
I would say, like, because with my work when I
lived in New York City, I would be in Europe
so often with because I was in the fashion business, right,
so I'd be in Milan or this that, And it
was what you were saying, Gudy. I miss so many
of my sorority sister's weddings because my career was like,
you know, first and look, sometimes you can't go. But
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I probably could have left a day early and made
it to the wedding, but I thought, oh, there'll be
another one. You know, you're kind of inundated with all
of that throughout a time everyone's getting married. You think
it's just going to always keep happening. You know, all
these things are so special and if you can do it,
and you can really make the effort and you can
swing it somehow, you should try to because you see
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everyone there and you keep the connection and there's such
special memories and it's it doesn't it's not like that
all the time, you know, because we all are in
different phases of our life and so yeah, it's just
great advice to seize the day right and appreciate it totally.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Ladies, thank you so much for joining us. I hope
you're reunion so.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Much time, all right, guys, So that's it for this
episode of Dirty Rush.
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Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia, Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi, guys, welcome back to Dirty Rush. I am your host,
Jen Fessler, and today we are mixing things up, so
instead of chatting with recent grads, I've got a group
of women who are a little further down the road
from their sorority days. We are bringing in Judy and Janet. Hi, ladies, Hi,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Jennifer U here, thank you so well.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
First, guys, tell me where you went to school and
what sorority you were in.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Judy, I University of Southern California and we were in
Delta Camma, got it? Okay, great?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And I know you graduated different years. Janet, when did
you graduate?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I graduated in nineteen eighty eight, okay?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And Judy ninety one.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I graduated right in the middle nineteen ninety not that it.
And Annett, have you did you move straight to Vegas
after graduation? No?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Actually, I wanted to be in fashion, so I moved
straight to New York City and I was.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
There probably for fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Years until I married my husband and we moved back
to West La got it, and then we moved to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
For my husband's job, like ten years later, nights later.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, okay, okay, So listen, guys, We're going to talk
about what it's like those friendships that you know, we
form in sorties, and you know, if those friendships stay
with you for life. I think, in my case a
lot of them. Did I want to know about you
guys though, tell me about the women in DG. Were
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they just college friends or do you have a lot
of sisters that you're still in touch with and that
are your closest friends?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Janet tell me a little.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, a kind of funny thing I think in our
generation is we Firstly, I loved my experience as a DG.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I lived in the house the whole time. It was
the best.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But then we didn't have social media like now, so
it was very hard to keep in touch. When I
moved to New York, I didn't know about you, Judy,
but there was only you know, that was very odd
at the time because most people stayed in California and
we couldn't really stay in touch with our sorority sisters
because like, no one was there maybe two people would
move to d C or something, so you kind of
see people.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Going in and out.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But I did an event for USC a couple of
years ago at our house here in Las Vegas, and
I was thinking about the most like significant things that
have happened in my life. And the funny thing is
that so many of them have been brought about by
my soberarity sisters. So like, for instance, my husband, who
I'm madly in love with. She I was living in
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New York. Her husband worked at Morgan Stanley with my husband,
and when I was coming home to visit my family,
she fixed us up and we fell in love, and
I moved back and then, you know, there's just been
so many instances like that. Our you know, best friends
would move years later and we'd come to New York
and then we all become best friends again, and I
think the bonds are just so so special, and yeah,
(03:07):
so it's just been great.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You bring up an interesting point because I graduated ut
North Texas in nineteen ninety, so, right, we didn't even
have cell phones, right, Oh, No, it was such It
was such a different time, and it was if you
wanted to stay in touch, you were making a It
used to be called youngin's a long distance phone call, right,
or you wrote something called a letter. But I remember
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that feeling because I moved straight from Texas to New
York City.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I remember feeling that that loss.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know, just awsome these sisters because they are really
none of my None of my AFI sisters moved to
New York. So I was the ones for my pledge class.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
What about you, Judy, Yeah, I had a little kind
of a mixed experience. When I first graduated, I moved
to DC. My boyfriend at the time, he was in
med school and I moved. I was a polyside major communication,
so I wanted to move DC. It just kind of
worked out. So I moved into a row house with
about four other sorty sisters, so I kind of continue.
(04:12):
But they were older than me, so that went to
row house.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So in washingt d C.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Their houses are in Rose in Georgetown, I guess I
just called it.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So the houses are like almost.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Sheer walls, so you're really close with your neighbors, and
there's lots of them. They're beautiful, sort of collegey.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's not no.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
I had a senator across the street, a lobbyist here,
but they were one person in these homes.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
There was six of us, six geirls.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I shared a room with another girl in a bathroom
because you were used to. I literally was just like, Oh,
that's no big deal. I don't think I could do
it today. So I lived with my sorty sisters for
a few years, all different schools. Some of them were
DG's at different schools, and uh, we're a different ages.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
One was at the Pentagon, but Taylor was at the Taylor.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Yeah, she was roommate. She had the biggest room that
she had, the whole top floor. Obviously she was so
it still kind of worked like this already help. And
then once I got married and moved to New Orleans,
That's when I really felt the shift and didn't have
as much contact with my girlfriends. Once I got married
and was living not in California, and I remember being
devastated that I.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Could not afford to fly to my friend Amy's. I'm
going to cry still. She asked me to be in
her wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I know, I'm so sad, so sad.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
What it is you get married, you have no money,
you know, you spend all your wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I know, but the back that you would actually be
brought to tears By.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That is so you Yeah, I still think about it.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
I was like, so sad I couldn't be there to
be in your best girlfriend's wedding. It only happens once, hopefully,
No it does. It speaks also those bonds, those you know,
sisterly bonds.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
But okay, go on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
No, that was pretty much it. So that's been my experience.
And then I have stayed. I really tried. I think
probably a little more than my girlfriends have because they
all still live in California together, So I think I
make a little more effort to try to bring us
together because I'm sort of in Vegas. There's not as
many girls that left California, right my sorty.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So I sort of started.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
A text group and then I just recently joined the
fifty one Pledge sisters text group that was started, and
that's been really fun. We all kind of share our
little businesses or little you know, celebrations of our kids.
So that's been nice. And oddly I just found out
Facebook Messenger. I had like a hundred messages. I never
saw about these reunions that I missed. I was always
like seeing photos. I'm like, oh, shoot, I wish I
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knew about that. Well, apparently there was messages.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Social media is sometimes they.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like, I think it's junk mail. That wasn't right.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Yeah, so I would say, you know, it's been hard.
It is really hard to keep in touch. And there
are some girls that when we pledged with we never
saw them again.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Right down, Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, you really have to make an effort.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But it is cute gity like when you say that,
because I lost touch with a lot and you probably
saw a couple of my the SORTI sisters that we
have a good holiday party. Yes, yes I did, but
further on that I hadn't really kept in touch with everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You're right with the reunions.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I never went to any because we travel, like all
of you know, travel, and we couldn't do them. And
so this year we're all turning sixty. Now Gendie's younger
than I am, so we're all turning sixty. So I
said to my couple of girlfriends who have you know,
very still very close with, They said, come down to
our house in Newport, let's celebrate our sixtieth. And so
my girlfriend put it out to the whole group text
because we're all turning sixty this year, and now like
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forty people, like almost our whole pledge class is coming
down and they all got a hotel rooms.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I want to come.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I know you're someone you don't want to be sixty,
you guys. So that's that's the downer of it, right
around the corner.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But it's cute. But it was cute. You know. See
everyone was so excited to see each other.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You have a whole agenda, do you have, like you know,
just the schedule and like things, I mean, are there
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, totally, Like I'm doing one big dinner at my
house one night and then you know Tammy Tucker remember her.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
GD Yeah, totally.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, I think I ran into her like some ski
place Deer Valley or.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh yeah, so it's gonna it's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah it'll be.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But I'm just you know, it's been how everyone wants
to see each other, and you know, it's like your
time has passed.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Ye gets referring to me seeing her friends. She shouldn't
go last minute. I don't know if you I'm sure
you're familiar with page of page danim.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Am I I amare hanging over y.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Page was my big sister.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
She was a DJ, and I asked her to be
on here today and she had plans, but she definitely
would love to be on.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Did she have a discount code she gave you for
us or you.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Know, she did do a discount code for Nathan Allison
Hospice is a luncheon that she agreed to be kind
of saved us as the fashion house because I do
not mean it for us.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Oh no, no, no, no, of course not no.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
But she was so sweet. She did a discount code
for the DG's that day and as she did a
pop up, it was really cool to kind of bring
her back.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, so you guys feel like there's something different in
terms of because you know now that we are we're
all around sixty Janet, but like versus your sorority reunions,
Like I'm very close with I have three best friends
from high school and so we see each other. I
went to high school in Houston, Texas, so we see
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each other once a year.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
My friends.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
My friend has this amazing house on the Chesapeake and yeah,
it's it's really really fun in Maryland. So yeah, but
there's four of us, you know, there's a lot of
sorority sisters, and it's a different type of closeness of Yes,
we had so much fun in a five in college.
High school is such a different time. It was a
(09:51):
time of kind of struggles. I mean college too, you
trying to you're figuring out who you are, yes, right,
but just different different parts of in terms of growing up.
Are your high school friends you feel like you have
those same types of relationships different the same?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, I still have a few high school friends. Probably not.
I don't keep in touch with them. I try, but
they none of them really stayed in California.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
A lot of them left. Yeah, makes it a little harder.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I do try to keep in touch with them, for sure,
the ones over there, but probably not as much as
I think.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'm a little more closer, but it's hard to say.
It's different. It's a different type of closest. Yeah, they
knew me when I was a lot younger.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I have a few friends from high school that I
went to college with and we're my storty that I
keep in touch with.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
So that's cool. That really goes deep, right, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
About your bearing it?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's I to be honest, that's I have you know,
GD knows one of our girlfriends who lives in New
York City, Donie Bomber. But other than that, and she
was my little sister when she she pledged also, and
that I think is my only high school friend.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I would have loved.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You guys went to high school together, You and Donna.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We've known each other since a grade. Yeah, where did
you guys go high school?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Glendale, lamorous Glendell High School.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But yeah, it's so much fun. But I think honest
to be you know, honest back then, right you weren't.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It was hard to keep in touch because everyone was
a different universe, you know, schools that they didn't go
to your school, and you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Know, and you moved and I moved to New York, so.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You have to make that plan every year right there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And then also in the Storty day, you think we're
so close, especially the girls that live like I lived
always in the Storty. I loved it, And I just
feel like you're so close because you're living together. Yeah,
all the funny stories people with their boyfriends coming home.
I mean, it's just like, you know, it's a wild,
free time and you just really know the real them.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I agree any of your sorority friendships outlasted other relationships,
(12:05):
I don't know. I mean, listen, marriage is in this
day and age come and go, or maybe even family.
Really there have you found that some of the sorority
relationships have lasted longer than other ones?
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Other relationships in your life.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Have a EGV for sure?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I mean I've had some friends that I've sort of
fallen out of touch with that I was very close
when I was younger that I thought I wouldn't fall
out of touch with, but I continue to stay in
touch with.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And it's I want to say, it.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Might just be that time period in my life that
I've stayed in touch with. I mean, I do think
the sorority does add that extra bond. But I also
have friends that I've made in college at USC that
weren't necessarily in my sorority that I definitely have kept
in touch with. But there is something about authority that
does cause your brain. I think it's just that sort
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of time in your life. Your brain is still developing, right,
You can't help but have this sort of neat relationship
during that time of your life and also with families
of my story sisters. I'm really of parents, just the person.
It's really like like I'll never forget when I went
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to my first DG event when I pledged, and it
was like a dad daughter football game, and my dad
showed up and my girlfriend Allison was there with her
dad Dawn, who recently just passed away sadly, and they
were so happy to see each other because they were
real estate buddies. And my friend Elf and I had
no idea and it was just and my dad went
TUSC so he was like super excited and that was
(13:40):
just like made my experience and that sort of so
like much better that my knew other people, and like
every time we'd get together, it was just like this
big family, especially for me coming from my parents were
born in the twenties, so my dad was like one
of the first people. I was the youngest of six,
so he was one of the first people to go
to USC place all that kind of stuff. So it
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was pretty cool that he meets somebody on his age.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
You know, Yeah, that's very cool.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We'll state it. So, yeah, it was a pretty cool story.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So yeah, Janet, do you feel like friendships that you
make now are different. Every friendship is different, obviously, but
do you think it's harder to connect now or you know,
are the forms the form that friendship takes now? Definitely,
of course it's going to be different the form it
took when you were in when you're eighteen nineteen or whatever.
(14:29):
But do you think it was easier to get closer
to be have former sisterly bond than than it is now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
One d percent? Right?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because A you don't have the other influences, like you know,
when you are married and have a family, they come
from when you're making a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know, it's not you don't have the time, but
I think also just the fun. You know, it's very
such a care free time and you just have like
funny things happen, right, I mean, you're going to all
these fun exchanges and something like funny thing happens and.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You get fixed out, you know you do duty wouldn't
you wouldn't you know, you'd get fixed up where they
you wouldn't even know the person you're going with. You
totally that you got right to go to parties like
you're going and it's just all those hilarious things happen
all the time, and so then you have all that
you know, fun mutual those fun mutual memories that you
don't have. It's just a different time later in your life.
(15:20):
And then living together, of course, you know it's hysterical.
You're all sharing the bathroom. Back then, we only had
one phone in the hall, so it's like someone will
be on with their boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You'd be like lined up, you know. I mean, everyone's
wanting Oh my right, you have the housetone. I think
house fund.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I got a phone in our room, but it was
like a voicemail, and.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You had a right and a boyfriend would leave.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
My boyfriend my husband now, he would leave like the
longest voicemails, and it was just hilarious because everybody in
the room, we'd all listen to him screening.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Give me love. That's so cute. I love that, I do.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think, and I think when time passes too, you
really are to see your friends and about hear about
their life or maybe someone that you worked with.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, I went on to work with a lot of
my stors. Oh yeah, when I moved to d C
to LA It's Hurtle, Mariana death Terios.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
All of them were working at Team one ever. Yeah,
So Sue.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Helped me get an interview, and it was a blast
because we worked together.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
So a lot of us in the storty.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
We would apply for jobs on the campus and often
it was you know, working events before the football games
for alumni. Huh, whatever they needed us to do. I
forgot what were called we were called some kind of ambassadorship.
So it started. Then we started working together, me and
my studies, so it was natural that we would continue
working together and get paid, which was Yeah. So we
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kind of already knew how each other worked and trusted
each other because we had already sort of worked in
an environment together and so without even knowing, it was
just an easy like when you needed a little hookup,
you trusted that that person you're for it's going to
do a good job because you were on whatever we
called it the board or what do we call our
officer positions.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
On the board?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think it was the board? Yeah, the board? Okay, yeah,
thank y'all.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
I'm sure I don't know, Jennifer, if you know, like
you to get a good room in the storty, you
had to earn points, right, do you know?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
This?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
The way it did a lottery but go on.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh, you're so lucky. We had to work for it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
We had to.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, you know so many points. If you were like
the president or vice president.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Or the sledge trainer rush chairman. Yeah wow.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
So you'd want to kind of negotiate who your roommate
was to get a good room. You want to be
with someone that also is involved, otherwise that person's going
to pull you down. I did okay the first year,
but the next year, I don't know. I don't think
I held an officer position. So I kind of pulled
my group down. So we got put on the third
level for Allison, and we got a roommate who we loved.
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But it was and it wasn't very cool because it's
like very you know.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It was caught up there. Oh yeah, I was up there.
That can happen too. I think it's so.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Interesting because I feel like if you get a request
from a sorority sister, like let's say, my you know,
my kid, Jennifer, my kid is trying to break into
for me. I don't know podcasting or television or whatever
it is, but there's something about that, like that request
if it's coming from one of yours.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh for sure, right, because it definitely folds weight.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
It does.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I always am hesitant to even ask friends like that,
Like I always am hesitant to ask Page anything because
I know in her heart she wants to do it,
and I don't want her to push herself, you know how.
It's like I just worry about even doing those asks
because I know that's how people feel.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Right, right, right, right right, Okay, So just tell me this.
Do you feel like you can I know what the
answer is gonna be, but I'm gonna ask it anyway,
especially Janet when you have this big reunion coming up,
but even when because it's it is hard to keep
in touch that you get you have a lot of sisters,
not at every school, but you know that. I'm thinking
about keeping constant contact. But do you feel like you
could just pick up immediately where you left off when
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you see your sorority sisters.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think it will be like that. I'm excited. I
think it's going to be a blast.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And it's tat to hear about their life experience and
you know, like what's going on in their kids, and
you know, yeah, it's going to be so great.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think it'll be just like we left off.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I want to come. I think it sounds like the most.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I'm totally inviting myself.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You guys are welcome. Are you kidding? Every year?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
On?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes, it would be so great.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Give me, maybe from each one of you, some advice
you have or graduate from for graduating sorority sisters on
staying in touch after college.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Judy, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Would definitely continue just what I'm doing and set up
a tech stream I think better. So many people aren't
on social media or on different platforms, or like your
messages can go to spam. So I would just say
because I mean, honestly, my biggest advice is literally the
day of graduation and just count on. You're never going
to see some of these people again. I know that
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sounds like kind of sad, but I think if you
have that in your mindset, you're going to make a
little bit more of an effort.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, it's great advice. It is good advice.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I mean, I can remember the party I went to graduation.
It was late and I remember I had to leave
to catch a flight. You know, you can stay all
the night because we were going somewhere, And I remember thinking.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I didn't say by this person that could.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
And I do, because I'm kind of this person. I'm
always thinking about weird stuff like death and well, you know,
only have this much time to live. So I was like,
this may be the last time I see that person.
And sure enough, it was like there are people that
they are just not on social media, right, they are
literally disappeared from this planet. But I know they're alive
and living, and I wonder what happened. It's just like
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there's no way to get a hold of some of
these people, like they've chosen probably to not want to
be a great.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But isn't it a cool feeling like when you all
of a sudden, like you're on social media and you
have one of the I mean we Facebook, I don't know,
you know, an inwustry, but like a lot of the
I'm talking about going back aways and all of a sudden,
people you may know, and all of a sudden, like
this old sorority sister pops up and you're like, oh
my god, and then like you know.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah that they've just sort of been hiding and they're like, hi,
I'm here, I've been what yea, yeah, I say, think
of that, like that might be the last time you
see that person. So really, unless you make an effort,
you may never see them again.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So what about you, Janet? Any advice?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, I think Gud's advice is absolutely right on. And
I would say, like, because with my work when I
lived in New York City, I would be in Europe
so often with because I was in the fashion business, right,
so I'd be in Milan or this that, And it
was what you were saying, Gudy. I miss so many
of my sorority sister's weddings because my career was like,
you know, first and look, sometimes you can't go. But
(21:47):
I probably could have left a day early and made
it to the wedding, but I thought, oh, there'll be
another one. You know, you're kind of inundated with all
of that throughout a time everyone's getting married. You think
it's just going to always keep happening. You know, all
these things are so special and if you can do it,
and you can really make the effort and you can
swing it somehow, you should try to because you see
(22:08):
everyone there and you keep the connection and there's such
special memories and it's it doesn't it's not like that
all the time, you know, because we all are in
different phases of our life and so yeah, it's just
great advice to seize the day right and appreciate it totally.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Ladies, thank you so much for joining us. I hope
you're reunion so.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Much time, all right, guys, So that's it for this
episode of Dirty Rush.
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