May 12, 2026 • 48 mins
From The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, we welcome Bravo universe newbie, Liz’s husband Gerry McGraw. After a 13 year divorce, Gerry fell head over heels for Liz. Hear the hilarious story of how they first met, and why he thinks the viewers still haven’t seen the most authentic side of Liz.
Plus, what does Gerry think about Brian’s involvement this season?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is The Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Adoya.
Welcome back to the Eds. My name is Eddie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Judge, and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Today we are welcoming a brand new house husband who
just entered the Bravo Universe. Welcome Jerry McGraw. Jerry is
married to the Real Housewives of Rhode Island Liz McGraw.
And if you haven't watched the show, you gotta watch.
It is actually very fun, very entertaining, great dynamics and
really fun. I mean, I can't wait to get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome Jerry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. It's my first
podcast ever, so y wow, I.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Feel I feel honored that we're your first podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Same, It's always it's always a great feeling to be
the first.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hell yeah, I'm right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't know I think it's ever played. So hey, Jerry,
I hear that you work in the the medical marijuana business.
I'm also in the cannabis industry. I'd love to hear
all about that. How'd you get into the business?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh wow, I got it. So what kind of pioneer
is that? I believe it? Or now? We started the
company itself. We've been open around fourteenth year. Wow, we
worked on legislation and uh, well the grass you know,
the root works in the beginning of that for the
fight years before. So about twenty years I've been doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, twenty years and yeah, a long journey, true pioneer.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, yeahah, I bet that wasn't easy.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No, not at all, big bulls eyeing it back. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The interesting thing is when we started, we were looking
at the medical marijuana side, and we met with growers,
wet with you know, property owners, and the people that
were really talking to us were realters or developers, and
they were developing a lot of land for the growers
and processors, and some of the stories that they were
telling us were scaring the hell out of us, like,
(02:03):
you know, there's been people that get killed by the
cartel because you're encroaching on their business, right.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, it was. It was wild because we spent a
lot of time in California and spent a lot of
time with you probably know them, Steve DiAngelo, yeah from Yeah,
so we've worked with him for years and then the
very beginning we would fly out there, there'd be a
group of us and you know, we're going one tours
of some groves and they weren't legal back then. I
(02:33):
guess in California twenty fourteen years ago, fifteen years ago,
it really wasn't legal. They were like town orders and ordinances. Yeah,
these guys had gone on home. It was crazy. It
was a crazy scene.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. I think California is a good
place to grow. Yeah, I think the whole West coast
really are most of your stuff come from the West Coast?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
No, well, everything has because of federal loss. You can't.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh that's right, it's got to be in your state.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So we're vertically integrated. We grow, you know, we grow
all our own medicine and do all our own processing here. Wow,
it's a pretty big operation.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah yeah, Jerry with with how big the operation is,
how have you been? It's probably your biggest headache is
how do you deal with the little guys that are
working out of their homes that don't that basically don't
follow the rules. And with your size, obviously you got to.
You got a big bullseye on your back. You got
(03:30):
to follow everything, kind of do it by the book.
But there's a lot of people that aren't doing it
by the book. How has that affected your business?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, it does. It's you know, the black market is
something we're always competing against. Yeah, people feel safer coming
to a you know, coming to a store than the
corner of staff in the and run, you know what
I mean, Like they want to come to a store.
I have consistency and uh medicine that's been tested. As
far as competing with them in.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
A maybe just the smaller guy eyes that have a branch,
but they're so small that they could just do things
where they're not following the rules.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well they wouldn't. So we're like by the states, there's
only nine of us not so yes, so that anyone
that is growing that's not supposed to be it is
breaking you know, it's breaking the law. And the state
is kind of being a part because they collecting stack
tax money from us and forces those laws. So you know,
we're gonna hope they do their job.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Only nine Yeah, you know Rhode Islands that big, right.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, but the number one cannabis use in the country.
Imagine that. High Times an uticle on that and we
never came in first strictly from Times was doing that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But yeah, hey, so tell me about the name that
your company, Thomas ces later Compassion Center. How did how
did you come up with that?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So Thomas C. Slade, Uh, he was the champion of
the legislation that passed the law on the state of Rally,
so we worked closely with him. I was actually before
so we started a program in the state. When I
say we, I mean the state started a program before
the dispensaries caregivers. So you were allowed to grow six
plants and you'd have a person you would take care of,
(05:18):
like say two patients you were allowed and you could
sell that on cannabis. And Thomas was going through you know,
health issues, and he was my patient. And since then
he's passed away. But so we in his honor, we
named this latest iner after him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
M hmmm. And now just for clarification, it's a dispensary
you own or manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's everything. So we're very interted. So we're a dispensary,
we're manufacturing, we're cultivators. Yeah. Yeah, it's about close too
hundred employees we'd have here. It's it's a pretty decent
sized operation.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wow. Yeah, that's fantastic, awesome, congratulations on that. I also
understand your sports fisherman. I can't wait to hear all
about that. Sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That was an exciting part of my life that lasted
about fifteen years. Yeah, for a long time. I just
just sold the boat last summer. Okay. There's a lot
of time takes away from the family, you know, because
we were fishing in South Florida in the winter, and
then we're fishing up here and New England in the
(06:27):
summer times and doing competitive fishing. So the type of
fishing that we do is tournament fishing. You know, enter
a tournament, it would be prize money.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Wow, it sounds great time.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, I guess my wife put it out there.
You know, we fished with Michael Jordans. The people I
fished with it were amazing. I probably didn't belong in
that in those far. It's pretty cool, but.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It sounds like it did great.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh. We were good at it. My eyes, we were
the best.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And looking at the background, you got some trophies back there.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I heard you say, Michael Jordan I know he's
very competitive. Did you beat him?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
We beat him?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
How do you take that loss?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's funny. There's a there's a one of the times
was a Jimmy Johnson tournament. I think it was that,
and they have so there's like a three day tournament
and there's dailies like you win prize money every day
or whatever wins the day, and those those pots are
pretty big, and uh, we ended up beating them out
for first and that, and we're all waving because it's
Michael Jordan to his boat and normally he's very cool
(07:35):
and he didn't wave to us. Yeah, he's a great competitor. Yeah,
he's a pretty cool guy.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So is it was it Michael Jordan that tried to
play baseball too? Yes, and he sucked at it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
He's a good fisher, but he's got one of the
great he's got a great team. Yeah. No, he's really
good at it and he's really competitive.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And I was kicking button Nascar. No way, yeah, kick
can ask Nascar. He's got like he won the last
I think dytonea or something like that. No, he's got
his team. Oh, he got a team and he got
a racer and a driver.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You gotta be in it. I mean it's not like Jerry.
You didn't just drive the boat.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Right, No, no, and he did. Michael. Michael was in
the back of the boat fishing, you know, Okay, Yeah,
he was out there and uh yeah, it's pretty cool
and when and uh, Salefish tournaments are very competitive. Your
boats are almost charging at one another to get on
certain spots. Yeah, and you see these multi million dollar boats,
they're all massive and fights and it's crazy. And Michael's
(08:36):
out there getting wet and dirty like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Thirteen years yeah, a long time.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So I was gonna say, have you always been an entrepreneur, Jerry?
I know we're talking about your business for the last
twenty years, but would you do before that? Were you
in America or how did you get started all that.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Believing or not? And I still am a electrical contract
I might like since okay, I want that on the
electrical business. Yeah. And it's a family run, a family
run business which still is ongoing. My father's still there
and my nephew and I started there right from high
school and then I got tired of it. Yeah, it
(09:16):
was a little long career. My father put me to
work at like eight years old. You know what I'm saying.
It's like I used to leave me on the job
and say when the people come, hide the tools in
the closet and say you're waiting for me. That's how.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's awesome something I would do. Yeah, have to Hey, Jerry,
we went we kind of skipped ahead. I normally ask
all our house husband guests. You know, tell us about
your childhood growing up, you know, siblings, you know, where'd
you grow up? How was it? Can we go back
to that?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, I was born. I was born in Connecticut, so
my mom had me an early age, was like eighteen
years old. I think my parents got married. They moved
to Connecticut because my father thought he was going to
fix airplanes. And my grandfather who's still alive today, he's
one hundred years old and still doing land deals. He's
a contractor as well. Yes, and he I think I
(10:12):
was born, and like four or five days later he
came to Connecticut and grabbed my parents and said, you're
coming back to Rhode Island. And then I lived in Situate,
Rhode Island for a few years and in Cranston, Hode Island.
And I have a sister who's about three years younger
than me, who works with me here at the latest center.
Oh yeah, she's here. I have child who was pretty normal,
(10:35):
pretty normal childhood. You know, I was blessed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, working at a young age, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Go all away, that's well. I come from a family
of workers. That's what they made me do. That was
that was the I got whatever I want, but I
had to go to work.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Who got you into the fishing and did you start
that at a young age?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, we always had boats. So growing up in Rhode Island,
you know, we grew up on the water. There are
a lot of fishing on small boats. And there's a
family friend who was a building contractor that we used
to do work for. It's a very competitive fishermen as well.
Had these big, fancy sport fish boats, and I always
wanted to get out of one, and he would always
invite us and then blow me off at the last minute.
(11:12):
So I always had that drive away as soon as
I could afford a sportfish But when I was gonna by,
I want to start my team, and that's exactly what
I did.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Another big question we have for you is how did
you meet Liz?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I met Liz? I uh, I'd say I was
I had the world's longest divorce. So I was married before.
So my divorce lasted about thirteen years. It was awful.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Thirteen years, yes, wow in California.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, it was. It was. I think I made the
record books. They always bad. But so I'm out one
day and newly single, I guess you would say, and
I'll you, Oh God, now this is the problem. I
haven't know old I am today. I was in my thirties.
It was like thirty six, thirty four, thirty six right
(12:10):
around there. Don't quote me on it. Doug could be
off a few years. I was in my thirties, didn't
It wasn't. I never really went out when I was
married before and before that I was working, so I
was was never a going out person. There was a
local bod on the water down here, uh down here
in Providence, Rhode Island, and I got a I got
(12:31):
done with work. I would say. It was a Friday afternoon.
It was early. It was like two o'clock in the
afternoon or whatever. And I got out of work early,
and I bet a buddy down there and his walk
by me. She had boots on, and I said, nice
boots and she's dead things and kept walking. I mean,
I don't know what's to say, BacT I know what
the lines were. I didn't have any planet to see,
(12:52):
landed to see. So she's now she's going her way.
I forgot about it. She probably forgot about me, and
she was evidently meeting somebody there, one of her girlfriends
that blew her off. Oh and she ended up turning around.
You know, within the next couple of hours we started
talking and we're like, hey, you want to get out
of here, let's go and uh I never left. That
was it?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it was pretty funny that my first date with her.
I uh so I met her. I met her during
the day. I said, let's go out, dropped her off
for the apartment, went home, I took a shower, picked
her up and at the time, I had a had
a brand new push. It was I forget what it
was whatever the poorsh away. I think it was like
a Cayman. They just came out the Cayman. So I
(13:35):
had a brand new push and uh, I said, you
want to go out and take her out? I pick
her up and she's like rolling her rice. This guy's
get up, porsh whatever, And the whole night long she
introduced me as Jimmy all night long, and I never
corrected her. I just ran with it. But yeah, that's
(13:57):
how I met.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Does she still call you Jimmy once in a while.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
No, she doesn't still call me Jimmy. But the funny
part about the Porsche. I wanted to tell you the
cow is brand that we pull up in front of
the club. The owner of the club's outside who I know?
And I pull up, got reverse and go forward and
I rearnded this car. Oh that's why I wanted to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Hey, Jerry, I have a question on this. Sorry to
go back to this thirteen year divorce, but yeah, what
made it go thirteen years? And if you can go back,
what would you have done different so that it didn't
go thirteen years? Right?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That's you set me up? Theyah, I mean murder is
only twenty years. What would I do different? I don't know.
I was young. We're young, so you know lawyers make
you fight, yeah, and uh you know they want to
pound the flesh. Yeah, so I really got tortured. There
(14:51):
was the whole period. You know. She she did as
much as she as she could to make it as
difficult as possible.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
With her.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, three daughters.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So, oh, that's that even complicates it even Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Three daughters.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Were you guys married?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh so she was just I met her in high school,
so I got married young, had kids young. Oh. I
think Skyla was probably three years old when she met
Liz for the first time. Oh, young kid. Yeah, the
kids that up moving living with. The kids have lived
with me since oh, probably since was Skyler was probably
(15:30):
four years old when she moved in with Skyler Brian,
My three daughters moved in when she was about four.
She's about twenty years. They lived with us full time,
full time.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, oh interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I assume you and your ex don't talk and spent
twenty years, been twenty years.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Huh. Yeah. Yeah, she's not that great place, I guess,
and I hear that. Yeah, I don't think my kids
speak to her much. And yeah whatever, everyone has their demons.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, it makes sense though, I mean that that makes
sense why it lasted so long. It's just very unreasonable.
On the other side, so it was let's go back
to the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So let's go back to the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
When you met Liz, did you know immediately did you
get that feeling like this is the one I'm going
to marry this girl.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's awesome. And then I think I moved in like
three days later, she said, what are you doing? I
didn't tically moving, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's funny. I understand that people admire Liz
for stepping up as a good mod like like.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Just a still, I can't think enough.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's nothing I think that shines
more in a woman that can take on somebody else's
kids and treat them like their own. Yeah, and and
just make the kids feel loved and and you know,
and and part of a family.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, that's such a such a wonderful thing. The experience
with with I mean, I think you had a similar
experience Edwin when when you got together with Teddy, right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I think Teddy met well another similar stories. I
also our first date was at a club as well,
but it was like we just happened to meet that day, uh,
that night, I should say. And then she also messed
up on my name. She called me thought my name
was Edmund and yeah, we woke up the next morning
(17:34):
next to each other and she's like, what is your
name again? And I thought her name was Terry, so
we both were off, so we got that similarity. I
don't know, did you guys go home the first night too?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, we didn't. But I'll tell you the funny story
that did happen.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You can tell us.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
She lived in these kind that was right next to
the place that we were out at that night. And
I dropped her off and I said, I said, you
kiss me, gonna fall in love with me? She didn't,
didn't even want to kiss me. I let her off
the door. I go downstairs in her lobby. I go
down I see another guy coming in. I just I
(18:13):
get these wade feelings all the time. I go, you're
going up to seventeen And the guy just looked at me.
He's like, yeah, right, yeah. Come to find out he
was going to listen his apartment. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And who was the guy? Some guy she was dating
at the time.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
The funny thing is the guy ended up going coming
to work for me twenty years later.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
No way, was it her boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, I was just a friend.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Oh, just a friend.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Okay, not a booty call.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
We get him, understand one thing. List doesn't do a
booty cool Okay, I sound naive, but she just does.
She has a pretty good reputation for that. Down there
where good.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's funny, that's a great story. I don't think i've
heard something like that before.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That is cool.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Did you and Liz have kids?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
No, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh why not?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Three was enough?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Three was enough? I think looking back and I think
we both wish we did. Uh. Just life, you know, Yeah,
you think you think you got more time than you don't.
The three kids are at that age where they're torturing everybody.
You know. That wasn't any easy. It wasn't easy. So
it's just time slipped by, and I do regret it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, go to now no way your granddad.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That's that's that's a whole new chapter in life.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Man. Yeah, really exciting.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So what came to your mind when Liz came to
you and said, Hey, I have this idea. I want
to come out on the house Wives of Rhode Island.
I mean, what was your first thoughts? What were your
favorite thoughts?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Absolutely not like, what are you familiar with it? The
funny thing is, I am, I do watch the show.
I started off with you Eddie.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Wow, you know you saw him in the bathtub.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
My memory shop. I probably did because I watched every
one of those episodes.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's unforgettable.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, it was a great years. Those are great, great years.
And uh, Liz got me into it. I never watched
it before. I think we started off with the Hells
or something and then then uh then the Orange County
it was Orange County was the first one, right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, Vicky, Yeah, the very first one.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, and that's when we started watching it and I've
been watching it ever since.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Wow. So you said no, hell no, I don't want
to do this.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah. I said no, just because the type of business
we're in, and yeah, we're under a microscope. And she's like, yeah,
I guess you're right. And then we're going back and
forth and I'm like, all right, let's you know, we
can advertise now, we can, you know, let's give it
a shot. Let's see what happens. Yeah, and we moved
(20:56):
forward with it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So, so how did it happen? Like, how did she
find out obviously somebody was out there casting, and how
how did she get they were?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
So they were casting again. They were saying they were
doing an Italian American show and Italian neighborhoods. That's the
cover they used. They were casting, Uh, friends of Oz,
and our friends recommended us, and then I guess Lizzy's
name kept coming up, and that's how how we got there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
How do you feel about the cameras, Like, did you
have any I guess worry about Damn, I'm gonna have
to be on camera. What if I say the wrong
thing and I lose customers because of it?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Or yeah? No, it's it's never acting. I had to
do a lot of public well, try to do public
speaking for cannabis. In the beginning, we traveled state to
state and talk in front of abou you know, groups
of people, massive groups of people, and I'd freeze up.
I couldn't talk, So I didn't think I'd be able
(22:08):
to do it. I think with age, I just don't
care anymore. Yeah, Yeah, it's in the back of my mind
if you say something wrong. But in life you try
not to say the wrong thing either, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, there's no cameras in life.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, try to pay attention to that anyways. Yeah, but
it's it's it's never back. Every first scene was me
cleaning the cat hoop. Yeah, that we weren't even filming that,
and like they just showed up and the cat went
to the bathroom. We never went to the bathroom in
the rug ever. And I'm like, oh, we had cleaning
this up thing, and I'm doing it before they're going
to film, and there I have my camera.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, I know what you mean about, you know, being
nervous and not knowing how to take the cameras. I'll
never forget and I'll share my experience for the first
time when I filmed. I was introduced to it through
my wife obviously, and we were filming a romantic scene
at my house and she came in and she kind
(23:06):
of calmed me down, relaxed, and I was all about it,
like yeah, I could do this, no big deal. Suddenly,
you know, they knock on the door, one person comes in,
another person comes in, next thing, you know, I'm counting,
like I don't know, seventy people in my house. I'm like,
what is going on here? And they're changing light bulbs,
they're setting the lights and cameras and all that, and
I'm like I got this. And all of a sudden,
(23:28):
I see the big ass cameras. They bring it in
and they put them down and I just went white
and like my eyes rolled to the back of my head,
like I can't do this. Bit, I can't do this.
I freaked out.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, it's something. It's scary. It is scary, it really is.
And scenes are really tough, like's not comfortable. It's just
not comfortable too much. What is a PDF for PDA?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, well, she ended up giving me, you know, a
half a bottle of Don Julio and a half about
the red wine. And I was ready to do anything,
you know, so and I did the very first day.
I took my damn clothes off, jumped in a bathtub
with her, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing,
but I'm just doing whatever. And that was That was
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day one, and I'm like, where the hell do I.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Go from here? Right? That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So it was. It was nerve wrecking. I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think where I got the most nervous was not
so much when the when they first came to film us,
but when I first met the entire cast, and it
was at least of vander Pump's restaurant at the time,
and I want to say she made it a red
carpet event, So like as soon as you walked in,
I mean there was lights everywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That's your first day's.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, and then you're you're meeting like Lisa vander Pomp.
You're meeting well everybody at the time that you know,
they're all they all have their huge personas and and uh,
you know, you're trying to make a decent impression. And
I was just I remember just thinking, please don't start
getting nervous because I hate cameras. Yeah, oh my goodness.
(25:13):
And then when those lights are on the way they are,
it's like it gets even hotter. And then I started
getting like hot flashes and stuff. So I'm like, oh, please,
no hot flashes today. And luckily that didn't happen. But yeah,
that was no breaking that day.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, you got thrown into the Lions Day. Yeah. People.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And then she had an event too, so it wasn't
just the cast, but then she had Lisavanna pet had
all her friends and it was I mean, it was
a big setting, right and then you're the new ones there,
so you got to meet everyone there, so it was
probably the toughest one.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They're all whispering behind you, probably like who's the new guy,
let's get them drunk and do this so stupid.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They were actually very nice to you that that night.
They were actually very nice.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, that's good. That's yeah. I was not in that
situation because obviously we're all newbies so that and we
didn't all know each other, which she did, right. Yeah,
it's really crazy. I mean they are younger than me,
and I was probably friends with their parents, but we
still know that from going out, and so it wasn't
uncomfortable when it came to that.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well, that's interesting, she already knew that. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I think that's a big advantage, Jerry, because from my
experience meeting, you know, some of the house husbands from
different franchises, the one franchise that always stood out was
Jersey because they all know each other. They know either
our family or cousins or something, and you know, the
guys just always had fun and get along. I mean,
(26:40):
they also got Joe Gourga, who's just the clown and
entertainer and and if you ever meet him, he's just
the kindest like guy that you would ever meet. He's
just he's true Italian.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think I'm going to dinner with them tomorrow night,
am in fantastic? Yeah, drinking a lot to kill you
when I'm going there with Joe? And I said, all right.
And then my weither was on the phone with the
Lauris yesterday and she was away. I'm like, remember I'm
driving on New York tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So that you tell them. I said, hello, I love Joe.
He's such a cool cat.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So does that make it harder for you? Jerry? Though,
since you guys know each other from before, in that,
I assume you guys are friends. We're all friends from before,
so you don't And obviously the show has its drama
that needs to come out in order to be entertaining.
Is that tough because you know them and now maybe
sometimes you have to throw them under the bus so
(27:35):
you can create some drama or how does that all
work out?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
The women?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh, you just let the women do it.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The women do it. The women are now and it's tough,
you know what I mean. They have no problem, you know,
going at each other and then forgiving each other later.
So they're pretty good like that. The men, I can't see,
I said, again, into a fight that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Did you stay out of the drama once.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yes, you know, I've watched many seasons of Housewives, and
I'm like, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Can you count in your hands how many times you
spoke during this season or.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You guys probably beat the rector right now.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Not that much, but how many episodes have aired so far?
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So I think we're halfway through, so we're six going
on seven.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, so there's still a chance edwin because you know,
what is revealed is what's talked about you by other
housewives on the show that you didn't know about, right,
That was usually what that got me, you know, in
the presence of the other housewives or the other house husbands.
You know, there was a trauma. Like you said, the
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women did it. They did a great job. The guys, hey,
you know, we're guys. We stay away from it. But
then you know, one of the other housewives starts talking
shit about me, and my wife obviously loses it. But
that's how I find out is that they did this
whole fake sing about me being gay, and now they
put that narrative out there. And again it's not a
big deal. I've been called worse things, but still it's
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like that's how you find out it and that's how
you get like what what the what?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
That was my next question to you is like is
it hard for you or I mean you haven't really
experienced it, but was it hard for you to expose
your personal life on national television?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I thought it would be hotter?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh really?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah? We really when I said we had a bulls
eye in the back here in Rhode Island, like we
were the number one target. You know, you just deal
with it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, you know, I've always said that if you get
to the top, there's always going to be people that
are bringing it down. And that happens, I think in
all aspects of life, especially politics as you know, uh,
but there's always going to be some head out there
that you know, uses that that leverage or that strategy
to try to bring themselves up and make themselves you know,
(30:05):
sound like you're the better company than the other. Have
you ever experienced anything like that when like some other
asshole company trying to say shit about your company.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, but I did experience the show when we had
a scene where the girls drove my RV that was
all wrapped in Skyline security. That was all happy. I'm like, Wow,
chick out the brand. It's on TV. The girls are
having like dinner in front of it, so you just
it's like the whole hour all you see is Skyline,
(30:36):
and I'm like, yes, we've arrived, baby, all of a sudden,
I mean we probably we've done I don't know, over
three hundred thousand installs in home security, and if you
look us up, we have all these like great Google reviews.
We probably have like I don't know, five thousand plus
like just five star, right, and then all of a sudden,
(30:57):
some people pick up some bad reviews and there must
have been I don't know, ten twelve, and all of
a sudden we were taking advantage of the elderly and
then it just all of a sudden. Edwin's a scam.
Edwin's a scam. But you guys talking about we've been
in business twenty seven years. If we were to scam,
we wouldn't be in business. And that actually hurt me
(31:20):
because I'm all about integrity and doing things the right way,
because that's how you stay in business for a long time.
You know, Jerry is by a character, right, yeah, And
I know when attacked me, and it probably happened for
a good month and a half two months, and it
was just and then they couldn't have picked a worst picture.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Uh oh, it's always there.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's like the shittiest picture. And then scam.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was like, it totally backfired, totally backfired.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, well that's because you're legit.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So yeah. And then for a while I was like,
I wanted to say something about it, but our PR
person was like, no, if you say something about it,
it's gonna get worse, so just stay quiet. And I
had to, like my ego wanted to say something right like,
and I just had to stay quiet. And then luckily
it went away. But it was it was tough. It
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was very tough.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, and that's kind of what pushed us to do
it through the show more than not, because my wife
mentions it, talks about it a lot during the season,
but it never made the show, so it's kind of yeah,
you know, it didn't happen, but whatever, still had fun
doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
What has been so far the most negative experience you've
had on the show, like being a house husband?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Not many. I think my wife's really sincere and she's
a really I mean, I've seen it. She did it
with my daughters. What she does for women is amazing.
She is like a good support person, gives great you know,
she has great ideas for women if they were going
through a breakup or whatever they may go through. And
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she didn't really get to show that side of her.
You know, it was kind of more of the scary Liz,
which is not really who Liz is. You know, Liz
is really you know, she's a great person on my head,
being a cheerleader for Reither by any means. But that
was the only thing, Like I've said it all during
the show in the beginning before we moving on, I
just said, I know my wife has a lot to offer.
It may help somebody in mill of the middle of
(33:32):
America who doesn't know what to do in their relationship
they're in. This is really great at that and that
message I don't think has gotten across yet.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well that's not entertainment.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well that's right, that's the other thing I get that now,
this is who my wife, doesn't I understand the show
no kind of And I'm like, all right, that'd be
boring and this is fun and who cares, Let's just
have fun with it and let's can't She's that's the
only problem she has.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So what about what the other husbands? Did you have
any like negative experience is with them?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
None? No? No, okay, no, we've They were all great.
Paul being the the vet, you know what I mean,
he's been through the ring. He kind of me and
him were like Eddie Haskell, you know what I mean,
We just touched everything. Everyone drunk when they were shooting
the vandem say the stupidest things on camera, did some
(34:22):
really bad things.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, he told me a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Had so fun some stuff, but it still gets on camera.
I won't believe it, but because there's some crazy stuff
at the end.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
But yeah, yeah, Well, I gotta tell you. The worst
thing you can do that's a house husband is getting
involved in the drama. You know, like trying to be
the list. Say there's five housewives, you want to be
the six housewife. So yeah, it's just the worst thing
you can do.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm the women and I get involved, you know what
I mean. I just like three daughters the wife. I
just the argument. I'm good at it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You know what was tough for me. I wonder what
you guys think about this, But for me, I think
the toughest thing I had with the show is I
think I could have made it more entertaining, but I
was always afraid of what my kids would think if
they if I talked about some of the stuff that
people would love to hear, right. But then in the
back of my mind, I was like, wait, my kids
(35:20):
are gonna see they're gonna hear this. I don't know
if I want them to know that stuff. So for me,
that was a big I kept my mouth shut for
That was one of the biggest reasons I didn't speak
as much because I was always worried about what the
kids would think. But I also knew, man, if I
would have said this, this, this, this, man, I would
have loved it. You know, it was just totally entertainment, right.
(35:40):
But it's just how do you guys feel? Did you
have that problem too, Jerry, where you were like, I
could say this, but my kids are gonna watch this.
I'm gonna sip it exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's that's the that's the main thing, is like that
that bothers me. I don't talk about sex like I
just don't like my second time the camera. They wanted
me to rather table with Paul Billy and UH, and
we're talking to UH to Gary, and they wanted to
bring up some sex thing, and I said, I'm not
(36:09):
gonna talk about sex. I got three daughters I gonna
talk about I'm not doing it. And luckily enough, Gary
was drunk enough that as soon as we sat down,
he just spilled the beans and he did the job
for me. Yeah. Yeah, I have that problem. I do.
I always thinking about the girls. I don't want to
embarrass them. I mean to a certain extent, you know,
(36:30):
I know I'm gonna embarrass them, but I just don't
want to say the wrong thing, creepy thing. I want
to be creepy, right.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That definitely is the default, because you do have to
consider what your kids are gonna say. However, there is
a caveat to that, and I think if you are
able to have a community open communication with your kids
constantly and let them know this is TV. This is
a TV show, so you have to understand that even
(36:58):
though it's reality, is you know, for TV entertainment purposes.
And I think the kids will understand and and I
justify it because you know what I did. I got
drunk the very first day, didn't know what I was doing,
and when we sobered up the next morning, we're like,
what the we just do you know, how are our
kids are going to take it? And you know what,
(37:18):
during the divorce, my wife's ex was trying to use
all that against us, not just you know, in the
psychological effects of you know, turning the kids on us,
but in court he even brought it into court. I'm like,
you an idiot, this is TV, this is entertainment.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
How old were the kids then?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
They were young? They were young. I think the oldest
was thirteen and the youngest was five. Yeah, so it
was it was critical that you know, we we and
the kids grew up on it until they got divorced,
and then of course he wouldn't sign on for them
to be on the show, which I don't completely oppose.
I think there's a certain age where kids don't understand
(38:01):
life really and it's about the teenagers around teenage years
later teenageers where they start really coming to their own
and making their own opinions and understanding. And I think
that's why the law is written in a way where
when a child turns i think fifteen or sixteen, is
they can make a decision who they want.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
To live with.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Right, they want to live full time with their father
or their mother. So when that time came, the kids
ended up making that ultimate decision and then they came
to live with us full time. So that shows you that,
you know, they're they're smart, they're not going to believe
everything they see on tivy. But did affect them, Yeah,
I mean they go to school and you got kids
(38:39):
who watch the show or kids' parents who watch the show,
and they'll talk about I can't imagine what that would
be like as a kid, Like going to school and
you know your kids, your friends are teaching you because
your mom did a you know, a naked tub scene
with your Like that would be mortifying.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Right, I do. Ship. Yeah, I'm lucking up my kids.
I call him kids. But they're all adults now you're
thirty and you know, okay, yeah kind of in a
good place.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Are they on the show?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Oh good?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, Yeah, they're on the show. Yeah, not a lot,
you know, I mean in cameos like you know, Potteries
or whatever we're having, they show up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But yeah, So it's my understanding. Brian Rules's husband is
very involved, Like he's the most involved in the show.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, Brian is Uh, I don't know Brian's thinking.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
What tell us about that? Can you tell us about like.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Well, I think he's he's constantly defending himself, let's put
it that way, So he has to be involved. Girls
are coming after room okay with accusations, and uh, you know,
I think he learned from the last the episode a
few episodes ago when he didn't see anything and kind
of backfight on him. Yeah, so you do have to
(40:04):
speak up and defend yourself a little bit. Yeah, I
don't want to really get involved in his situation. I mean,
we all make mistakes and you know, try to get
through it.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And you know, do you think is it Do you
think it's because he got involved first, or you know
what I mean? Like if he would have just stayed
quiet right like you're supposed to do, you think it
wouldn't have happened. But maybe he spoke a little too
much because you kind of asked for it when you
try to get into shows what I've seen, if.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
You should he probably should have came out of the Housewives.
He probably should have stayed home.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh so he's got some skeletons and yeah that that
that Yeah, that's a mistake, they'll dig it up.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Guys on our show that have a con cemetery in
our clossets.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
What are you going on the natural television show for?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
But hey, maybe he believes, you know, it looks like
he believes someone white believe that their marriage is strong enough.
We're going to get through it, and God bless them,
you know who might have judge on what somebody does?
I mean yea.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
So speaking of that, how has it affected your relationship?
Has it been positive? Has it has it kind of
shown some of the cracks in your relationships? Are you know,
what has been your experience so far?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
So one of the main reasons everyone, you know, a
lot of people said to me, why are you doing
the show? You know you don't need to do it.
I said, well, this is something my wife, it's her
time to shine something. It's hers like you know that,
you know, the dispensary is os. This is like her
own her making her own way. And so I supported
(41:46):
her for doing that. But now I'm seeing now it's
a lot of work, takes a lot of the time.
The show just is in twelve episodes. The show is
basically we're still filming. I mean it's even though seasons over,
we're going back, you know how it is, you're going
what's what happens live, You're gonna do the reunion, the press.
So it never ends. Like I said, it's over. I'm
(42:08):
happy for her, but she does get overwhelmed. It's a lot, yeah,
a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I just had this conversation with my wife. She's insisted
that this is only filming three three months out of
the year. I'm like, no, this is a twelve month endeavor.
What are you talking about it?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
And then when you're not on what I'm learning And
you guys are probably very used to this, but going
on out to dinner is a project now. You know,
we basically every night and now every night it's like
we're trying to talk to her, get her autographed. And
then if we're going out for a few drinks and
say the bar or whatever, it's full and she's sitting down,
I'm standing up. They can't get there. I got the
strangers talking to me. I don't know. And it's really
(42:49):
time consuming. It's a lot of your time.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, it's it's that's that part has been very interesting.
I still can't wrap my head around that, Jerry, because
you know, I consider myself an extra on the show.
I'm like, you know, just the seat filler. And when
I'm out in public and you know from you know,
men and women and kids, you know, they recognized me
and they're like, oh my god, Eddie Judge like, yeah,
(43:13):
so what.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
It was really weird, isn't it is weird? It's so
weird cool, it's very I'm not gonna say it's not cool.
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm not on the show,
but I still get recognized as Eddie. I was that
Coachella coming out of my room and some girls like,
oh my god, Edie. I did not correct her. And
then and then I thought, oh shoot, she's gonna think
Eddie was with some other chick that wasn't camera. I'm
(43:51):
going to get you in trouble.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So yeah, I still get recognized as Eddie.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
And now we got a podcast together, so they're definitely confused.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Do you guys watch the show together before? You know?
Usually they send you I don't know if they still
do it, but I know back in my idea. They
send you the show before it actually comes out, do
you watch it together?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
So we get it on Tuesdays. Okay, show watching on Tuesday,
and I there's no way I'm watching that show twice.
So I'm doing nothing on Sunday. I actually enjoy going
home at nine o'clock. You know, we get in bed
and watch the show together. So we typically watch it together.
So that's my first time on Sunday night with everyone else.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Let's go do you go? Have you done the mistake
of go on Twitter? Yet?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
So that yeah, so that I'm very used to. It's
my wife who is not used to it, and she's
some of the remarks that's that's in the beginning was
really bad. Now she kind of laughs. The other guy,
What did you say to the other guy? The guy
had a line the other day he said, you look
like the last hot dog in a seven eleven at
one in the morning. I that's a classic one. I
(45:04):
laugh at him, though, Yeah, you gotta laugh at that.
Come on, people are brutal. But brutal or whatever, so
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Well, I got to tell you the magic formula, and
this is just my opinion. The magic formula to be
a rock star, if you will on the show, is
to have fifty percent of the people hate you and
fifty percent of the people like you. That keeps you
relevant and that keeps you on the show because you
don't want everybody to like you, you'll get boring and
(45:37):
they get kicked off the show. And you don't want
everybody to hate you because you're too much of a villain, right.
But it definitely watching my wife do this, it's been
just a learning experience, Like she's a master at it.
She just I don't know how she knows what to do,
but she always knows what to do and the ideas
(45:58):
she has and how she comes up, you know, she
is obviously seasoned, and how she handles it now is
a lot better. But it's it's a freaking roller coaster, bro,
It's it's and you're my My hardest job was to,
you know, ride this roller coaster with her, know when
she's up, and know when she's down, and know when
(46:19):
to consult her. I mean, in a relationship, it's hard
enough already trying to you know, deal with these dynamics
the woman, but you throw the show on top of that.
You're like talking to her. You're talking her off the
ledge for three months out of the year and the
rest of the year she's like, Okay, I think I'm good,
let's do it again.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right, what twenty years for her? She's been off for
twenty year, is right?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
She No, she got fired for two so I think
she's been on sixteen or seventeen years.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, seventeen years. So that's you look at it, and
you know, I look at what Dolores does. I mean,
she's never, never home. It's a lot. It's a full
fine job. It's a full fine job.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Speaking of Dolores, I I just it. It's crazy and
how uncanny. They both look so alike. They could be
twin sisters.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
It's crazy, it really is. I'll be on you said
Instagram or whatever, and I'll think the Loris is my wife,
Like I'll be like, oh my god, like look twice.
It is crazy, it really is.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's amazing. Yeah, well, Jerry, it's just been a delight
to have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You did great for it being your first time. By
the way, Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Was gonna ask because I can't myself. So it's weird.
I feel like I'm in a can Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I think we really got to know you, Jerry. You
seem like a very cool, down to earth, just you know,
a hard working man that just doesn't do with stupid
bullshit drama and all that. So keep being you man,
That's that's what Viers really want to see. Don't get
involved with this drama. That's my only advice. Really, just
just self and let the girls do the work.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
That's it. Sit back, it's the turn. I appreciate. It
was a pleasure meeting you, and uh hopey we'll get
together for some drinks someday.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
We'll make it happen.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Congrats on all the success.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Thank you you too as well.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
All right, Jerry, take care, Jerry,
This is The Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Adoya.
Welcome back to the Eds. My name is Eddie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Judge, and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Today we are welcoming a brand new house husband who
just entered the Bravo Universe. Welcome Jerry McGraw. Jerry is
married to the Real Housewives of Rhode Island Liz McGraw.
And if you haven't watched the show, you gotta watch.
It is actually very fun, very entertaining, great dynamics and
really fun. I mean, I can't wait to get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome Jerry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. It's my first
podcast ever, so y wow, I.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Feel I feel honored that we're your first podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Same, It's always it's always a great feeling to be
the first.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hell yeah, I'm right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't know I think it's ever played. So hey, Jerry,
I hear that you work in the the medical marijuana business.
I'm also in the cannabis industry. I'd love to hear
all about that. How'd you get into the business?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh wow, I got it. So what kind of pioneer
is that? I believe it? Or now? We started the
company itself. We've been open around fourteenth year. Wow, we
worked on legislation and uh, well the grass you know,
the root works in the beginning of that for the
fight years before. So about twenty years I've been doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, twenty years and yeah, a long journey, true pioneer.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, yeahah, I bet that wasn't easy.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No, not at all, big bulls eyeing it back. You know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The interesting thing is when we started, we were looking
at the medical marijuana side, and we met with growers,
wet with you know, property owners, and the people that
were really talking to us were realters or developers, and
they were developing a lot of land for the growers
and processors, and some of the stories that they were
telling us were scaring the hell out of us, like,
(02:03):
you know, there's been people that get killed by the
cartel because you're encroaching on their business, right.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, it was. It was wild because we spent a
lot of time in California and spent a lot of
time with you probably know them, Steve DiAngelo, yeah from Yeah,
so we've worked with him for years and then the
very beginning we would fly out there, there'd be a
group of us and you know, we're going one tours
of some groves and they weren't legal back then. I
(02:33):
guess in California twenty fourteen years ago, fifteen years ago,
it really wasn't legal. They were like town orders and ordinances. Yeah,
these guys had gone on home. It was crazy. It
was a crazy scene.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. I think California is a good
place to grow. Yeah, I think the whole West coast
really are most of your stuff come from the West Coast?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
No, well, everything has because of federal loss. You can't.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh that's right, it's got to be in your state.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So we're vertically integrated. We grow, you know, we grow
all our own medicine and do all our own processing here. Wow,
it's a pretty big operation.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah yeah, Jerry with with how big the operation is,
how have you been? It's probably your biggest headache is
how do you deal with the little guys that are
working out of their homes that don't that basically don't
follow the rules. And with your size, obviously you got to.
You got a big bullseye on your back. You got
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to follow everything, kind of do it by the book.
But there's a lot of people that aren't doing it
by the book. How has that affected your business?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, it does. It's you know, the black market is
something we're always competing against. Yeah, people feel safer coming
to a you know, coming to a store than the
corner of staff in the and run, you know what
I mean, Like they want to come to a store.
I have consistency and uh medicine that's been tested. As
far as competing with them in.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
A maybe just the smaller guy eyes that have a branch,
but they're so small that they could just do things
where they're not following the rules.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well they wouldn't. So we're like by the states, there's
only nine of us not so yes, so that anyone
that is growing that's not supposed to be it is
breaking you know, it's breaking the law. And the state
is kind of being a part because they collecting stack
tax money from us and forces those laws. So you know,
we're gonna hope they do their job.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Only nine Yeah, you know Rhode Islands that big, right.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, but the number one cannabis use in the country.
Imagine that. High Times an uticle on that and we
never came in first strictly from Times was doing that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But yeah, hey, so tell me about the name that
your company, Thomas ces later Compassion Center. How did how
did you come up with that?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So Thomas C. Slade, Uh, he was the champion of
the legislation that passed the law on the state of Rally,
so we worked closely with him. I was actually before
so we started a program in the state. When I
say we, I mean the state started a program before
the dispensaries caregivers. So you were allowed to grow six
plants and you'd have a person you would take care of,
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like say two patients you were allowed and you could
sell that on cannabis. And Thomas was going through you know,
health issues, and he was my patient. And since then
he's passed away. But so we in his honor, we
named this latest iner after him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
M hmmm. And now just for clarification, it's a dispensary
you own or manufacturing.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's everything. So we're very interted. So we're a dispensary,
we're manufacturing, we're cultivators. Yeah. Yeah, it's about close too
hundred employees we'd have here. It's it's a pretty decent
sized operation.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wow. Yeah, that's fantastic, awesome, congratulations on that. I also
understand your sports fisherman. I can't wait to hear all
about that. Sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That was an exciting part of my life that lasted
about fifteen years. Yeah, for a long time. I just
just sold the boat last summer. Okay. There's a lot
of time takes away from the family, you know, because
we were fishing in South Florida in the winter, and
then we're fishing up here and New England in the
(06:27):
summer times and doing competitive fishing. So the type of
fishing that we do is tournament fishing. You know, enter
a tournament, it would be prize money.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Wow, it sounds great time.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, I guess my wife put it out there.
You know, we fished with Michael Jordans. The people I
fished with it were amazing. I probably didn't belong in
that in those far. It's pretty cool, but.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It sounds like it did great.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh. We were good at it. My eyes, we were
the best.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And looking at the background, you got some trophies back there.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
We got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I heard you say, Michael Jordan I know he's
very competitive. Did you beat him?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
We beat him?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
How do you take that loss?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's funny. There's a there's a one of the times
was a Jimmy Johnson tournament. I think it was that,
and they have so there's like a three day tournament
and there's dailies like you win prize money every day
or whatever wins the day, and those those pots are
pretty big, and uh, we ended up beating them out
for first and that, and we're all waving because it's
Michael Jordan to his boat and normally he's very cool
(07:35):
and he didn't wave to us. Yeah, he's a great competitor. Yeah,
he's a pretty cool guy.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So is it was it Michael Jordan that tried to
play baseball too? Yes, and he sucked at it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
He's a good fisher, but he's got one of the
great he's got a great team. Yeah. No, he's really
good at it and he's really competitive.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And I was kicking button Nascar. No way, yeah, kick
can ask Nascar. He's got like he won the last
I think dytonea or something like that. No, he's got
his team. Oh, he got a team and he got
a racer and a driver.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You gotta be in it. I mean it's not like Jerry.
You didn't just drive the boat.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Right, No, no, and he did. Michael. Michael was in
the back of the boat fishing, you know, Okay, Yeah,
he was out there and uh yeah, it's pretty cool
and when and uh, Salefish tournaments are very competitive. Your
boats are almost charging at one another to get on
certain spots. Yeah, and you see these multi million dollar boats,
they're all massive and fights and it's crazy. And Michael's
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out there getting wet and dirty like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Thirteen years yeah, a long time.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So I was gonna say, have you always been an entrepreneur, Jerry?
I know we're talking about your business for the last
twenty years, but would you do before that? Were you
in America or how did you get started all that.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Believing or not? And I still am a electrical contract
I might like since okay, I want that on the
electrical business. Yeah. And it's a family run, a family
run business which still is ongoing. My father's still there
and my nephew and I started there right from high
school and then I got tired of it. Yeah, it
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was a little long career. My father put me to
work at like eight years old. You know what I'm saying.
It's like I used to leave me on the job
and say when the people come, hide the tools in
the closet and say you're waiting for me. That's how.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's awesome something I would do. Yeah, have to Hey, Jerry,
we went we kind of skipped ahead. I normally ask
all our house husband guests. You know, tell us about
your childhood growing up, you know, siblings, you know, where'd
you grow up? How was it? Can we go back
to that?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, I was born. I was born in Connecticut, so
my mom had me an early age, was like eighteen
years old. I think my parents got married. They moved
to Connecticut because my father thought he was going to
fix airplanes. And my grandfather who's still alive today, he's
one hundred years old and still doing land deals. He's
a contractor as well. Yes, and he I think I
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was born, and like four or five days later he
came to Connecticut and grabbed my parents and said, you're
coming back to Rhode Island. And then I lived in Situate,
Rhode Island for a few years and in Cranston, Hode Island.
And I have a sister who's about three years younger
than me, who works with me here at the latest center.
Oh yeah, she's here. I have child who was pretty normal,
(10:35):
pretty normal childhood. You know, I was blessed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, working at a young age, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Go all away, that's well. I come from a family
of workers. That's what they made me do. That was
that was the I got whatever I want, but I
had to go to work.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Who got you into the fishing and did you start
that at a young age?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, we always had boats. So growing up in Rhode Island,
you know, we grew up on the water. There are
a lot of fishing on small boats. And there's a
family friend who was a building contractor that we used
to do work for. It's a very competitive fishermen as well.
Had these big, fancy sport fish boats, and I always
wanted to get out of one, and he would always
invite us and then blow me off at the last minute.
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So I always had that drive away as soon as
I could afford a sportfish But when I was gonna by,
I want to start my team, and that's exactly what
I did.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Another big question we have for you is how did
you meet Liz?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I met Liz? I uh, I'd say I was
I had the world's longest divorce. So I was married before.
So my divorce lasted about thirteen years. It was awful.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Thirteen years, yes, wow in California.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, it was. It was. I think I made the
record books. They always bad. But so I'm out one
day and newly single, I guess you would say, and
I'll you, Oh God, now this is the problem. I
haven't know old I am today. I was in my thirties.
It was like thirty six, thirty four, thirty six right
(12:10):
around there. Don't quote me on it. Doug could be
off a few years. I was in my thirties, didn't
It wasn't. I never really went out when I was
married before and before that I was working, so I
was was never a going out person. There was a
local bod on the water down here, uh down here
in Providence, Rhode Island, and I got a I got
(12:31):
done with work. I would say. It was a Friday afternoon.
It was early. It was like two o'clock in the
afternoon or whatever. And I got out of work early,
and I bet a buddy down there and his walk
by me. She had boots on, and I said, nice
boots and she's dead things and kept walking. I mean,
I don't know what's to say, BacT I know what
the lines were. I didn't have any planet to see,
(12:52):
landed to see. So she's now she's going her way.
I forgot about it. She probably forgot about me, and
she was evidently meeting somebody there, one of her girlfriends
that blew her off. Oh and she ended up turning around.
You know, within the next couple of hours we started
talking and we're like, hey, you want to get out
of here, let's go and uh I never left. That
was it?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it was pretty funny that my first date with her.
I uh so I met her. I met her during
the day. I said, let's go out, dropped her off
for the apartment, went home, I took a shower, picked
her up and at the time, I had a had
a brand new push. It was I forget what it
was whatever the poorsh away. I think it was like
a Cayman. They just came out the Cayman. So I
(13:35):
had a brand new push and uh, I said, you
want to go out and take her out? I pick
her up and she's like rolling her rice. This guy's
get up, porsh whatever, And the whole night long she
introduced me as Jimmy all night long, and I never
corrected her. I just ran with it. But yeah, that's
(13:57):
how I met.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Does she still call you Jimmy once in a while.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
No, she doesn't still call me Jimmy. But the funny
part about the Porsche. I wanted to tell you the
cow is brand that we pull up in front of
the club. The owner of the club's outside who I know?
And I pull up, got reverse and go forward and
I rearnded this car. Oh that's why I wanted to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Hey, Jerry, I have a question on this. Sorry to
go back to this thirteen year divorce, but yeah, what
made it go thirteen years? And if you can go back,
what would you have done different so that it didn't
go thirteen years? Right?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That's you set me up? Theyah, I mean murder is
only twenty years. What would I do different? I don't know.
I was young. We're young, so you know lawyers make
you fight, yeah, and uh you know they want to
pound the flesh. Yeah, so I really got tortured. There
(14:51):
was the whole period. You know. She she did as
much as she as she could to make it as
difficult as possible.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
With her.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, three daughters.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So, oh, that's that even complicates it even Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Three daughters.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Were you guys married?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh so she was just I met her in high school,
so I got married young, had kids young. Oh. I
think Skyla was probably three years old when she met
Liz for the first time. Oh, young kid. Yeah, the
kids that up moving living with. The kids have lived
with me since oh, probably since was Skyler was probably
(15:30):
four years old when she moved in with Skyler Brian,
My three daughters moved in when she was about four.
She's about twenty years. They lived with us full time,
full time.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, oh interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I assume you and your ex don't talk and spent
twenty years, been twenty years.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Huh. Yeah. Yeah, she's not that great place, I guess,
and I hear that. Yeah, I don't think my kids
speak to her much. And yeah whatever, everyone has their demons.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, it makes sense though, I mean that that makes
sense why it lasted so long. It's just very unreasonable.
On the other side, so it was let's go back
to the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So let's go back to the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
When you met Liz, did you know immediately did you
get that feeling like this is the one I'm going
to marry this girl.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's awesome. And then I think I moved in like
three days later, she said, what are you doing? I
didn't tically moving, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's funny. I understand that people admire Liz
for stepping up as a good mod like like.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Just a still, I can't think enough.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's nothing I think that shines
more in a woman that can take on somebody else's
kids and treat them like their own. Yeah, and and
just make the kids feel loved and and you know,
and and part of a family.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, that's such a such a wonderful thing. The experience
with with I mean, I think you had a similar
experience Edwin when when you got together with Teddy, right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I think Teddy met well another similar stories. I
also our first date was at a club as well,
but it was like we just happened to meet that day, uh,
that night, I should say. And then she also messed
up on my name. She called me thought my name
was Edmund and yeah, we woke up the next morning
(17:34):
next to each other and she's like, what is your
name again? And I thought her name was Terry, so
we both were off, so we got that similarity. I
don't know, did you guys go home the first night too?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, we didn't. But I'll tell you the funny story
that did happen.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You can tell us.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
She lived in these kind that was right next to
the place that we were out at that night. And
I dropped her off and I said, I said, you
kiss me, gonna fall in love with me? She didn't,
didn't even want to kiss me. I let her off
the door. I go downstairs in her lobby. I go
down I see another guy coming in. I just I
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get these wade feelings all the time. I go, you're
going up to seventeen And the guy just looked at me.
He's like, yeah, right, yeah. Come to find out he
was going to listen his apartment. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And who was the guy? Some guy she was dating
at the time.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
The funny thing is the guy ended up going coming
to work for me twenty years later.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
No way, was it her boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, I was just a friend.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Oh, just a friend.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Okay, not a booty call.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
We get him, understand one thing. List doesn't do a
booty cool Okay, I sound naive, but she just does.
She has a pretty good reputation for that. Down there
where good.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's funny, that's a great story. I don't think i've
heard something like that before.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That is cool.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Did you and Liz have kids?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
No, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh why not?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Three was enough?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Three was enough? I think looking back and I think
we both wish we did. Uh. Just life, you know, Yeah,
you think you think you got more time than you don't.
The three kids are at that age where they're torturing everybody.
You know. That wasn't any easy. It wasn't easy. So
it's just time slipped by, and I do regret it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, go to now no way your granddad.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That's that's that's a whole new chapter in life.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Man. Yeah, really exciting.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So what came to your mind when Liz came to
you and said, Hey, I have this idea. I want
to come out on the house Wives of Rhode Island.
I mean, what was your first thoughts? What were your
favorite thoughts?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Absolutely not like, what are you familiar with it? The
funny thing is, I am, I do watch the show.
I started off with you Eddie.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Wow, you know you saw him in the bathtub.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
My memory shop. I probably did because I watched every
one of those episodes.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's unforgettable.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, it was a great years. Those are great, great years.
And uh, Liz got me into it. I never watched
it before. I think we started off with the Hells
or something and then then uh then the Orange County
it was Orange County was the first one, right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, Vicky, Yeah, the very first one.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, and that's when we started watching it and I've
been watching it ever since.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Wow. So you said no, hell no, I don't want
to do this.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah. I said no, just because the type of business
we're in, and yeah, we're under a microscope. And she's like, yeah,
I guess you're right. And then we're going back and
forth and I'm like, all right, let's you know, we
can advertise now, we can, you know, let's give it
a shot. Let's see what happens. Yeah, and we moved
(20:56):
forward with it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So, so how did it happen? Like, how did she
find out obviously somebody was out there casting, and how
how did she get they were?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
So they were casting again. They were saying they were
doing an Italian American show and Italian neighborhoods. That's the
cover they used. They were casting, Uh, friends of Oz,
and our friends recommended us, and then I guess Lizzy's
name kept coming up, and that's how how we got there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
How do you feel about the cameras, Like, did you
have any I guess worry about Damn, I'm gonna have
to be on camera. What if I say the wrong
thing and I lose customers because of it?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Or yeah? No, it's it's never acting. I had to
do a lot of public well, try to do public
speaking for cannabis. In the beginning, we traveled state to
state and talk in front of abou you know, groups
of people, massive groups of people, and I'd freeze up.
I couldn't talk, So I didn't think I'd be able
(22:08):
to do it. I think with age, I just don't
care anymore. Yeah, Yeah, it's in the back of my mind
if you say something wrong. But in life you try
not to say the wrong thing either, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, there's no cameras in life.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, try to pay attention to that anyways. Yeah, but
it's it's it's never back. Every first scene was me
cleaning the cat hoop. Yeah, that we weren't even filming that,
and like they just showed up and the cat went
to the bathroom. We never went to the bathroom in
the rug ever. And I'm like, oh, we had cleaning
this up thing, and I'm doing it before they're going
to film, and there I have my camera.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, I know what you mean about, you know, being
nervous and not knowing how to take the cameras. I'll
never forget and I'll share my experience for the first
time when I filmed. I was introduced to it through
my wife obviously, and we were filming a romantic scene
at my house and she came in and she kind
(23:06):
of calmed me down, relaxed, and I was all about it,
like yeah, I could do this, no big deal. Suddenly,
you know, they knock on the door, one person comes in,
another person comes in, next thing, you know, I'm counting,
like I don't know, seventy people in my house. I'm like,
what is going on here? And they're changing light bulbs,
they're setting the lights and cameras and all that, and
I'm like I got this. And all of a sudden,
(23:28):
I see the big ass cameras. They bring it in
and they put them down and I just went white
and like my eyes rolled to the back of my head,
like I can't do this. Bit, I can't do this.
I freaked out.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, it's something. It's scary. It is scary, it really is.
And scenes are really tough, like's not comfortable. It's just
not comfortable too much. What is a PDF for PDA?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, well, she ended up giving me, you know, a
half a bottle of Don Julio and a half about
the red wine. And I was ready to do anything,
you know, so and I did the very first day.
I took my damn clothes off, jumped in a bathtub
with her, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing,
but I'm just doing whatever. And that was That was
(24:16):
day one, and I'm like, where the hell do I.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Go from here? Right? That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So it was. It was nerve wrecking. I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think where I got the most nervous was not
so much when the when they first came to film us,
but when I first met the entire cast, and it
was at least of vander Pump's restaurant at the time,
and I want to say she made it a red
carpet event, So like as soon as you walked in,
I mean there was lights everywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That's your first day's.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, and then you're you're meeting like Lisa vander Pomp.
You're meeting well everybody at the time that you know,
they're all they all have their huge personas and and uh,
you know, you're trying to make a decent impression. And
I was just I remember just thinking, please don't start
getting nervous because I hate cameras. Yeah, oh my goodness.
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And then when those lights are on the way they are,
it's like it gets even hotter. And then I started
getting like hot flashes and stuff. So I'm like, oh, please,
no hot flashes today. And luckily that didn't happen. But yeah,
that was no breaking that day.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, you got thrown into the Lions Day. Yeah. People.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And then she had an event too, so it wasn't
just the cast, but then she had Lisavanna pet had
all her friends and it was I mean, it was
a big setting, right and then you're the new ones there,
so you got to meet everyone there, so it was
probably the toughest one.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They're all whispering behind you, probably like who's the new guy,
let's get them drunk and do this so stupid.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They were actually very nice to you that that night.
They were actually very nice.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, that's good. That's yeah. I was not in that
situation because obviously we're all newbies so that and we
didn't all know each other, which she did, right. Yeah,
it's really crazy. I mean they are younger than me,
and I was probably friends with their parents, but we
still know that from going out, and so it wasn't
uncomfortable when it came to that.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well, that's interesting, she already knew that. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I think that's a big advantage, Jerry, because from my
experience meeting, you know, some of the house husbands from
different franchises, the one franchise that always stood out was
Jersey because they all know each other. They know either
our family or cousins or something, and you know, the
guys just always had fun and get along. I mean,
(26:40):
they also got Joe Gourga, who's just the clown and
entertainer and and if you ever meet him, he's just
the kindest like guy that you would ever meet. He's
just he's true Italian.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think I'm going to dinner with them tomorrow night,
am in fantastic? Yeah, drinking a lot to kill you
when I'm going there with Joe? And I said, all right.
And then my weither was on the phone with the
Lauris yesterday and she was away. I'm like, remember I'm
driving on New York tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So that you tell them. I said, hello, I love Joe.
He's such a cool cat.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So does that make it harder for you? Jerry? Though,
since you guys know each other from before, in that,
I assume you guys are friends. We're all friends from before,
so you don't And obviously the show has its drama
that needs to come out in order to be entertaining.
Is that tough because you know them and now maybe
sometimes you have to throw them under the bus so
(27:35):
you can create some drama or how does that all
work out?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
The women?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh, you just let the women do it.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The women do it. The women are now and it's tough,
you know what I mean. They have no problem, you know,
going at each other and then forgiving each other later.
So they're pretty good like that. The men, I can't see,
I said, again, into a fight that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Did you stay out of the drama once.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yes, you know, I've watched many seasons of Housewives, and
I'm like, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Can you count in your hands how many times you
spoke during this season or.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You guys probably beat the rector right now.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Not that much, but how many episodes have aired so far?
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So I think we're halfway through, so we're six going
on seven.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, so there's still a chance edwin because you know,
what is revealed is what's talked about you by other
housewives on the show that you didn't know about, right,
That was usually what that got me, you know, in
the presence of the other housewives or the other house husbands.
You know, there was a trauma. Like you said, the
(28:44):
women did it. They did a great job. The guys, hey,
you know, we're guys. We stay away from it. But
then you know, one of the other housewives starts talking
shit about me, and my wife obviously loses it. But
that's how I find out is that they did this
whole fake sing about me being gay, and now they
put that narrative out there. And again it's not a
big deal. I've been called worse things, but still it's
(29:07):
like that's how you find out it and that's how
you get like what what the what?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
That was my next question to you is like is
it hard for you or I mean you haven't really
experienced it, but was it hard for you to expose
your personal life on national television?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I thought it would be hotter?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh really?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah? We really when I said we had a bulls
eye in the back here in Rhode Island, like we
were the number one target. You know, you just deal
with it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, you know, I've always said that if you get
to the top, there's always going to be people that
are bringing it down. And that happens, I think in
all aspects of life, especially politics as you know, uh,
but there's always going to be some head out there
that you know, uses that that leverage or that strategy
to try to bring themselves up and make themselves you know,
(30:05):
sound like you're the better company than the other. Have
you ever experienced anything like that when like some other
asshole company trying to say shit about your company.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, but I did experience the show when we had
a scene where the girls drove my RV that was
all wrapped in Skyline security. That was all happy. I'm like, Wow,
chick out the brand. It's on TV. The girls are
having like dinner in front of it, so you just
it's like the whole hour all you see is Skyline,
(30:36):
and I'm like, yes, we've arrived, baby, all of a sudden,
I mean we probably we've done I don't know, over
three hundred thousand installs in home security, and if you
look us up, we have all these like great Google reviews.
We probably have like I don't know, five thousand plus
like just five star, right, and then all of a sudden,
(30:57):
some people pick up some bad reviews and there must
have been I don't know, ten twelve, and all of
a sudden we were taking advantage of the elderly and
then it just all of a sudden. Edwin's a scam.
Edwin's a scam. But you guys talking about we've been
in business twenty seven years. If we were to scam,
we wouldn't be in business. And that actually hurt me
(31:20):
because I'm all about integrity and doing things the right way,
because that's how you stay in business for a long time.
You know, Jerry is by a character, right, yeah, And
I know when attacked me, and it probably happened for
a good month and a half two months, and it
was just and then they couldn't have picked a worst picture.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Uh oh, it's always there.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's like the shittiest picture. And then scam.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was like, it totally backfired, totally backfired.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, well that's because you're legit.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So yeah. And then for a while I was like,
I wanted to say something about it, but our PR
person was like, no, if you say something about it,
it's gonna get worse, so just stay quiet. And I
had to, like my ego wanted to say something right like,
and I just had to stay quiet. And then luckily
it went away. But it was it was tough. It
(32:13):
was very tough.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, and that's kind of what pushed us to do
it through the show more than not, because my wife
mentions it, talks about it a lot during the season,
but it never made the show, so it's kind of yeah,
you know, it didn't happen, but whatever, still had fun
doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
What has been so far the most negative experience you've
had on the show, like being a house husband?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Not many. I think my wife's really sincere and she's
a really I mean, I've seen it. She did it
with my daughters. What she does for women is amazing.
She is like a good support person, gives great you know,
she has great ideas for women if they were going
through a breakup or whatever they may go through. And
(33:10):
she didn't really get to show that side of her.
You know, it was kind of more of the scary Liz,
which is not really who Liz is. You know, Liz
is really you know, she's a great person on my head,
being a cheerleader for Reither by any means. But that
was the only thing, Like I've said it all during
the show in the beginning before we moving on, I
just said, I know my wife has a lot to offer.
It may help somebody in mill of the middle of
(33:32):
America who doesn't know what to do in their relationship
they're in. This is really great at that and that
message I don't think has gotten across yet.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well that's not entertainment.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well that's right, that's the other thing I get that now,
this is who my wife, doesn't I understand the show
no kind of And I'm like, all right, that'd be
boring and this is fun and who cares, Let's just
have fun with it and let's can't She's that's the
only problem she has.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So what about what the other husbands? Did you have
any like negative experience is with them?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
None? No? No, okay, no, we've They were all great.
Paul being the the vet, you know what I mean,
he's been through the ring. He kind of me and
him were like Eddie Haskell, you know what I mean,
We just touched everything. Everyone drunk when they were shooting
the vandem say the stupidest things on camera, did some
(34:22):
really bad things.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, he told me a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Had so fun some stuff, but it still gets on camera.
I won't believe it, but because there's some crazy stuff
at the end.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
But yeah, yeah, Well, I gotta tell you. The worst
thing you can do that's a house husband is getting
involved in the drama. You know, like trying to be
the list. Say there's five housewives, you want to be
the six housewife. So yeah, it's just the worst thing
you can do.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm the women and I get involved, you know what
I mean. I just like three daughters the wife. I
just the argument. I'm good at it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You know what was tough for me. I wonder what
you guys think about this, But for me, I think
the toughest thing I had with the show is I
think I could have made it more entertaining, but I
was always afraid of what my kids would think if
they if I talked about some of the stuff that
people would love to hear, right. But then in the
back of my mind, I was like, wait, my kids
(35:20):
are gonna see they're gonna hear this. I don't know
if I want them to know that stuff. So for me,
that was a big I kept my mouth shut for
That was one of the biggest reasons I didn't speak
as much because I was always worried about what the
kids would think. But I also knew, man, if I
would have said this, this, this, this, man, I would
have loved it. You know, it was just totally entertainment, right.
(35:40):
But it's just how do you guys feel? Did you
have that problem too, Jerry, where you were like, I
could say this, but my kids are gonna watch this.
I'm gonna sip it exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's that's the that's the main thing, is like that
that bothers me. I don't talk about sex like I
just don't like my second time the camera. They wanted
me to rather table with Paul Billy and UH, and
we're talking to UH to Gary, and they wanted to
bring up some sex thing, and I said, I'm not
(36:09):
gonna talk about sex. I got three daughters I gonna
talk about I'm not doing it. And luckily enough, Gary
was drunk enough that as soon as we sat down,
he just spilled the beans and he did the job
for me. Yeah. Yeah, I have that problem. I do.
I always thinking about the girls. I don't want to
embarrass them. I mean to a certain extent, you know,
(36:30):
I know I'm gonna embarrass them, but I just don't
want to say the wrong thing, creepy thing. I want
to be creepy, right.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That definitely is the default, because you do have to
consider what your kids are gonna say. However, there is
a caveat to that, and I think if you are
able to have a community open communication with your kids
constantly and let them know this is TV. This is
a TV show, so you have to understand that even
(36:58):
though it's reality, is you know, for TV entertainment purposes.
And I think the kids will understand and and I
justify it because you know what I did. I got
drunk the very first day, didn't know what I was doing,
and when we sobered up the next morning, we're like,
what the we just do you know, how are our
kids are going to take it? And you know what,
(37:18):
during the divorce, my wife's ex was trying to use
all that against us, not just you know, in the
psychological effects of you know, turning the kids on us,
but in court he even brought it into court. I'm like,
you an idiot, this is TV, this is entertainment.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
How old were the kids then?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
They were young? They were young. I think the oldest
was thirteen and the youngest was five. Yeah, so it
was it was critical that you know, we we and
the kids grew up on it until they got divorced,
and then of course he wouldn't sign on for them
to be on the show, which I don't completely oppose.
I think there's a certain age where kids don't understand
(38:01):
life really and it's about the teenagers around teenage years
later teenageers where they start really coming to their own
and making their own opinions and understanding. And I think
that's why the law is written in a way where
when a child turns i think fifteen or sixteen, is
they can make a decision who they want.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
To live with.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Right, they want to live full time with their father
or their mother. So when that time came, the kids
ended up making that ultimate decision and then they came
to live with us full time. So that shows you that,
you know, they're they're smart, they're not going to believe
everything they see on tivy. But did affect them, Yeah,
I mean they go to school and you got kids
(38:39):
who watch the show or kids' parents who watch the show,
and they'll talk about I can't imagine what that would
be like as a kid, Like going to school and
you know your kids, your friends are teaching you because
your mom did a you know, a naked tub scene
with your Like that would be mortifying.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Right, I do. Ship. Yeah, I'm lucking up my kids.
I call him kids. But they're all adults now you're
thirty and you know, okay, yeah kind of in a
good place.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Are they on the show?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Oh good?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, Yeah, they're on the show. Yeah, not a lot,
you know, I mean in cameos like you know, Potteries
or whatever we're having, they show up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But yeah, So it's my understanding. Brian Rules's husband is
very involved, Like he's the most involved in the show.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, Brian is Uh, I don't know Brian's thinking.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
What tell us about that? Can you tell us about like.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Well, I think he's he's constantly defending himself, let's put
it that way, So he has to be involved. Girls
are coming after room okay with accusations, and uh, you know,
I think he learned from the last the episode a
few episodes ago when he didn't see anything and kind
of backfight on him. Yeah, so you do have to
(40:04):
speak up and defend yourself a little bit. Yeah, I
don't want to really get involved in his situation. I mean,
we all make mistakes and you know, try to get
through it.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And you know, do you think is it Do you
think it's because he got involved first, or you know
what I mean? Like if he would have just stayed
quiet right like you're supposed to do, you think it
wouldn't have happened. But maybe he spoke a little too
much because you kind of asked for it when you
try to get into shows what I've seen, if.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
You should he probably should have came out of the Housewives.
He probably should have stayed home.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh so he's got some skeletons and yeah that that
that Yeah, that's a mistake, they'll dig it up.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Guys on our show that have a con cemetery in
our clossets.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
What are you going on the natural television show for?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
But hey, maybe he believes, you know, it looks like
he believes someone white believe that their marriage is strong enough.
We're going to get through it, and God bless them,
you know who might have judge on what somebody does?
I mean yea.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
So speaking of that, how has it affected your relationship?
Has it been positive? Has it has it kind of
shown some of the cracks in your relationships? Are you know,
what has been your experience so far?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
So one of the main reasons everyone, you know, a
lot of people said to me, why are you doing
the show? You know you don't need to do it.
I said, well, this is something my wife, it's her
time to shine something. It's hers like you know that,
you know, the dispensary is os. This is like her
own her making her own way. And so I supported
(41:46):
her for doing that. But now I'm seeing now it's
a lot of work, takes a lot of the time.
The show just is in twelve episodes. The show is
basically we're still filming. I mean it's even though seasons over,
we're going back, you know how it is, you're going
what's what happens live, You're gonna do the reunion, the press.
So it never ends. Like I said, it's over. I'm
(42:08):
happy for her, but she does get overwhelmed. It's a lot, yeah,
a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I just had this conversation with my wife. She's insisted
that this is only filming three three months out of
the year. I'm like, no, this is a twelve month endeavor.
What are you talking about it?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
And then when you're not on what I'm learning And
you guys are probably very used to this, but going
on out to dinner is a project now. You know,
we basically every night and now every night it's like
we're trying to talk to her, get her autographed. And
then if we're going out for a few drinks and
say the bar or whatever, it's full and she's sitting down,
I'm standing up. They can't get there. I got the
strangers talking to me. I don't know. And it's really
(42:49):
time consuming. It's a lot of your time.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, it's it's that's that part has been very interesting.
I still can't wrap my head around that, Jerry, because
you know, I consider myself an extra on the show.
I'm like, you know, just the seat filler. And when
I'm out in public and you know from you know,
men and women and kids, you know, they recognized me
and they're like, oh my god, Eddie Judge like, yeah,
(43:13):
so what.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
It was really weird, isn't it is weird? It's so
weird cool, it's very I'm not gonna say it's not cool.
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm not on the show,
but I still get recognized as Eddie. I was that
Coachella coming out of my room and some girls like,
oh my god, Edie. I did not correct her. And
then and then I thought, oh shoot, she's gonna think
Eddie was with some other chick that wasn't camera. I'm
(43:51):
going to get you in trouble.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So yeah, I still get recognized as Eddie.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
And now we got a podcast together, so they're definitely confused.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Do you guys watch the show together before? You know?
Usually they send you I don't know if they still
do it, but I know back in my idea. They
send you the show before it actually comes out, do
you watch it together?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
So we get it on Tuesdays. Okay, show watching on Tuesday,
and I there's no way I'm watching that show twice.
So I'm doing nothing on Sunday. I actually enjoy going
home at nine o'clock. You know, we get in bed
and watch the show together. So we typically watch it together.
So that's my first time on Sunday night with everyone else.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Let's go do you go? Have you done the mistake
of go on Twitter? Yet?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
So that yeah, so that I'm very used to. It's
my wife who is not used to it, and she's
some of the remarks that's that's in the beginning was
really bad. Now she kind of laughs. The other guy,
What did you say to the other guy? The guy
had a line the other day he said, you look
like the last hot dog in a seven eleven at
one in the morning. I that's a classic one. I
(45:04):
laugh at him, though, Yeah, you gotta laugh at that.
Come on, people are brutal. But brutal or whatever, so
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Well, I got to tell you the magic formula, and
this is just my opinion. The magic formula to be
a rock star, if you will on the show, is
to have fifty percent of the people hate you and
fifty percent of the people like you. That keeps you
relevant and that keeps you on the show because you
don't want everybody to like you, you'll get boring and
(45:37):
they get kicked off the show. And you don't want
everybody to hate you because you're too much of a villain, right.
But it definitely watching my wife do this, it's been
just a learning experience, Like she's a master at it.
She just I don't know how she knows what to do,
but she always knows what to do and the ideas
(45:58):
she has and how she comes up, you know, she
is obviously seasoned, and how she handles it now is
a lot better. But it's it's a freaking roller coaster, bro,
It's it's and you're my My hardest job was to,
you know, ride this roller coaster with her, know when
she's up, and know when she's down, and know when
(46:19):
to consult her. I mean, in a relationship, it's hard
enough already trying to you know, deal with these dynamics
the woman, but you throw the show on top of that.
You're like talking to her. You're talking her off the
ledge for three months out of the year and the
rest of the year she's like, Okay, I think I'm good,
let's do it again.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right, what twenty years for her? She's been off for
twenty year, is right?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
She No, she got fired for two so I think
she's been on sixteen or seventeen years.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, seventeen years. So that's you look at it, and
you know, I look at what Dolores does. I mean,
she's never, never home. It's a lot. It's a full
fine job. It's a full fine job.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Speaking of Dolores, I I just it. It's crazy and
how uncanny. They both look so alike. They could be
twin sisters.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
It's crazy, it really is. I'll be on you said
Instagram or whatever, and I'll think the Loris is my wife,
Like I'll be like, oh my god, like look twice.
It is crazy, it really is.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's amazing. Yeah, well, Jerry, it's just been a delight
to have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You did great for it being your first time. By
the way, Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Was gonna ask because I can't myself. So it's weird.
I feel like I'm in a can Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I think we really got to know you, Jerry. You
seem like a very cool, down to earth, just you know,
a hard working man that just doesn't do with stupid
bullshit drama and all that. So keep being you man,
That's that's what Viers really want to see. Don't get
involved with this drama. That's my only advice. Really, just
just self and let the girls do the work.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
That's it. Sit back, it's the turn. I appreciate. It
was a pleasure meeting you, and uh hopey we'll get
together for some drinks someday.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
We'll make it happen.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Congrats on all the success.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Thank you you too as well.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
All right, Jerry, take care, Jerry,
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Teddi Mellencamp
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