May 11, 2026 • 39 mins
Teddi and Dolores say what they would do if Jo-Ellen brought them news about a mistress.
Then, Dolores wonders why she can’t cry freely like Ashley.
Plus, Teddi predicts that Ashley and Rosie might not stay friends…
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam
Ridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Dolores Catanya.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hi. I have questions, Yes, I have with Joellen yesterday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I love Joe Ellen.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I knew you would.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I wanted more time with Joellen. I wanted to get
in deeper with Joe Ellen.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh it doesn't take more time, it would do it.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, like I forget. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I feel like Joel and somebody I would want to
be friends with outside of doing this podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, then that's really nice. I'm sure she'll be very
happy to hear that, because I think she probably feels
like because she's you know, the role that she's taking
on in Rhode Island is something that would make people
not want to be her friend.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yea more of a shit string role.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well she should know that, you're like that too.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So it was like, yeah, you know game, yeah no,
but I really liked her and I felt like there
was something very honest about her.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Some people you talk to and you know, they may
be the truth tellers and but not the full truth.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, but I want to say the what do you
call it a selective when you hear things, the select
selective memory, yeah, or when you act like you don't hear. Yeah,
So it's selective hearing. It's selective truth telling in this business.
And listen, I think she's just ready to say, go ahead,
bring something up about me. I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, she doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I mean, we we brought up everything, We brought up
her filing for bankruptcy, I mean, and she just took it,
every single thing.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Girl.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I know she didn't mind it at all.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's what I call a housewife porn star.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And then Edwin.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Today, Edwin and Eddie are interviewing Jerry.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, I love that. You're gonna love him. He's a
guy's guy. Paul lives for him. I think Paul like
with datum like I swear he now, but he's just
such a good man, good guy. They're an amazing couple.
But you're going to love.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Jerry, now, That's what I said ed when I'm like,
you're gonna love him. Like watching him on the show,
he just seems like a really good guy. And I'm like,
and you can get some information out of him too,
because Liz holds all the secrets.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You're not getting shit out of him. You're not. No,
he's no slouch.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
He's no slouch.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Now. If you want some shit Joe Ellen's husband Gary.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Garn, Frank can give it to hus sometimes too.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Frank tells you whatever you want, Eddie. If you call
Frank right now and ask him about you know how
many times Frank's gotten in trouble by me a million,
the kids all the time, all the time, Frank, Frank,
I know you're going on to tease, shut your fucking
mouth and you and then he comes on and he
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tells you whatever you ask him.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
He's like, girls, you're gonna get me in trouble for this.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And he doesn't. And he's such a he's like a
Frank Catania is a big like he cries when he
watches that those shows like Home Run Now he cries,
or when the boss reveals who they are, when the
boss doesn't know and he works sobbing on the couch,
(03:39):
don't show me, Nani. So he's like Ashley, I yeah, yeah,
And lately more than ever, with the post about how
much he loves his kids, we laugh today. The post
was my job is my loving my daughter. What he's
(03:59):
like so emotional. I told you men change in their sixties.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But sometimes when men post motivational posts or like things
about love and I don't know, declaration, I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Do about love. No, he just does about how much
he loves the kids. Okay, it's just softing. I always
wanted him to be like that, and I love that
he's like that, because when they were little, he was
not like that. We got a fight. One time he goes,
we're getting difced. He goes, you go after my money.
I'm gonna take the kids. And then he goes, no,
I'm not. I'm gonna take the shorehouse. He hadn't even
(04:33):
come up with his I didn't even even get to
answer him, and I would like to. And then he
like took his words back right away, because not the kids,
not the kids. Not the not the kids. That's too much,
cramps saya. Not the kids, the shorehouse. I'm taking the shorehouse.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Take it, Take it, buddy, go for it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So it starts out they're still at the castle. They're
still at the castle, and everybody's waking up. I do
appreciate how these women don't mind wearing their pajamas on camera.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I appreciate everything about their realness.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, like they're in their jammys, they're not.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean, the only one that put on glam before
coming down in her jammis was Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah. Kelsey's still she's a glam like she's she's a
pageant girl. She's glamorous. You're not going to see us
doing that. Listen, New Jersey's like that too.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, but Rosie seems pretty sick.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's I haven't seen Rosie in the state before.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think Rosie has ibs, honestly, And I did say
she she bleeds out of her butt. Yeah, and that
was while ago. That's why she stopped working. She used
to wear diapers to work. But here's the thing, Rosie
maybe has a nervous stomach from growing up from a
like a mom who she says was very hard on
her and constantly she had to do everything that her
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mom said. Well, that's what a child and parent do.
You have to do what your parents say. I mean,
that doesn't mean it was so crazy, but I think
that her mother put a lot of pressure on her
the way she talks growing up, and that could cause
stomach problems later. On or maybe she just has stomach problems.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, but my stomach problems medication.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, there you go. And that's why we have the
commercial for this medication that you just brought up so
you don't burn, but send it to Rosie. But so
you know, I think we'll see in this in this
episode a lot of times. Listen, and I've said it before,
we're a product of our childhood. Yeah, you could be
raised in any environment, but what you went through with
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your parents that stays with you. The way you were
raised stays with you. And I always say when you're
getting married or when you meet someone, meet their family
because you cannot fight the DNA.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I feel like we've heard a lot about Joe
Ellen's family and how she was raised with her mother
in that relationship, but I don't feel like I've heard.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Much about Rosie.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't am I missing something that is there, like
an episode that I miss, Like I don't know so
much about Rosie's past.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, Ashley gets emotional defending Rosie at this table,
and she always gets emotional, but I think it's very
hard for her to jump in on these things.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Because Joellen has to laugh. Like Joellen can't even contain herself.
She's laughing at Ashley crying again?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Why do can can somebody can we get like a
down to why this coming from someone who hasn't cried
in years, Like, it's so hard for me to cry
and to be vulnerable and to allow myself to cry
even if I am well, I don't even evoke that.
But like if I see something sad, like with an animal,
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I get upset, you know. But when I feel like
I want to cry, I stop myself. What is it
that does that to me? And what is it that
does that to her? By the end of this season,
I need an answer to that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I think somebody in your life told you, no crying, Well,
be strong, strong people don't cry.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, how about if you cry, I'll give you a
reason a cry.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
No no? Yeah, well so all right, but I know
a lot of it, and I don't think that she
was raised that way. I think she was raised to
show her emotions. And everything's okay, I mean, but I
think the fact that they didn't give us, they did
us a disservice by not giving us a little bit
of Ashley eye on all for years of the Bachelor
(08:44):
and Bachelor in paradise because if you would have seen
the ridiculous things she cried about during those four seasons.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, it's so intrigued by this.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They I can't believe, maybe because they can't do a
deal with ABC, but like, there were so many things
she was on, so many different you know, like different opportunities,
and none of them made her last crying like it
was every single time.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, I'm gonna tell you this, Rosie handled Ashley her
ass because Ashley wasn't getting involved in a lot, she
wasn't saying a lot. Of course, you know, she cries
that there's not a lot of heartache in her life
and don't worry, Ashley. I hope you never know it.
But you're still young and these you know, she's had
(09:33):
a great life and she cries about having nothing to
cry about. But at some point Rosie goes, you're gonna
be my friend, like on the boat and people come
at me. You need to open your mouth, right. Yeah,
So now you know, I felt bad that she said
that to Ashley, but now I see she saved Ashley's
ass because now Ashley is more vocal. Ashley, you know,
(09:55):
she broke the seal.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Ashley's she's not her comfort zone. I don't think it's
out of her comfort it's out of her comfort zone,
but I think it's something she can get better at.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well. She's doing it and I and I like her
in her confessionals and I like her principles. Let me
tell you something. When they were on this trip, I
got a call from Ashley I or I got a
text and I was in Ireland because I said, you know,
when I was told that then I wouldn't be on
the trip. I went to a wedding in Ireland and
Ashley texted me and felt bad that I wasn't there. Oh,
(10:29):
you know, I will not forget that. That's a principled person.
And there was another time where Brian's mistress was at
a party outside of filming and tried to take a
picture with Ashley, and Ashley didn't take a picture with her.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I think Ashley's a good person, I know, and I
think that's why it's hard for her to come in
and go for the other women or have somebody's back,
because it's not confrontational. She's not confrontational, and even her
own emotions come up, like she could just be talking
(11:01):
about her kids or Jared or whatever it may be,
and she's going to be crying about it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Right, So listen, I think we're going to see Ashley,
and I'm going to tell you this. I think that
this show is going to make Ashley grow in certain ways.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And I think so too.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think, I mean, I hate to bring it back
to myself, but I guess here we go and bring
it back to myself.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But I remember, bring it back. That's okay.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
But I remember my first season on Housewives.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I kind of felt like I didn't know what to do.
Like I didn't have this natural comfort. I wasn't like
comfortable in front of the cameras. I wasn't comfortable like
confronting people about things, Like I really didn't know what
I was doing. So I just kind of became a
shot of myself. Did anyone take you under their wing
(11:54):
and say no you no, I know? And yeah, sure
they don't do that too much. So yeah, anyway, so
it was just that was It kind of just happened
like that. But I think with time then you kind
of learned. Then you're like, oh, okay, this is this
is how it works, this is what I got to do.
These are my and then also, these are my people,
Like she may right now having Rosie's back, but I
(12:17):
have a feeling Ashley, I am Rosie might not be
the closest when it comes down to it, because I
think that even when they were on the slides and
doing all these things, like sometimes I feel like Rosie's
a little phony you do.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I can't help it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well, well, I'd like to see no one's coming for
Ashley in the history of this show. If it lasts
twenty five years, they will never come for it, because
there's no reason to come for this angel of a human.
But I'd like to see if it was reciprocated. I'm
all about that, Like, you don't have to do as
much as I do for you as a friend, not
(12:53):
to bring it about me, you know, But this is
what I am looking at. And we've seen this in Summerhouse.
Spect people to do for you, but don't stab me
in the back.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, don't stap me in it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's all I can ask for you, And I don't.
I don't think Rosie, you know, could ever ever do
such a thing to her. I don't Maybe who knows,
who knows? Well, actually I don't know. Maybe we'll hear
Rosie did do that one day? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, I mean anything, anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
This show evokes paranoia, evil self changes you.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Changed, changes you.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So so I guess, I mean, who knows, But sitting
at this table, and I guess Rosie saying she was
upset brought some type of brought uh Kelsey to say, uh,
let me let me you know, let's make a truce here.
Let me go up there and soften it up, because
maybe I'm being too hard on her.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, like, let's talk upstairs.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They up, they find some peace.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
But do they really find some peace?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Well for the minute, for the minute they really is
there about really they're split up that day, so we
already know Joellen and It's going with Alicia on a
walk or something, and then the other girls are in
the castle swim pad, so like they already know how
they're being separated.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Why didn't I feel like Liz should have went with
them with Joel and Alisha.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Because Liz might not have problems with her mother.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh well no, but still she could have been I
feel like that would have been.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
But know what I noticed, somebody's about going on the.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Slide, and you'll never catch me going down any kind
of slide.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, Liz was pissed about it, and then Liz really
wanted nothing to do with Ashley I afterwards, either when
Ashley I tried to like come cheer up with her,
mass garrol underneath her eyes.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
They don't care about she don't.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Give a shit.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, she didn't give a shit about nothing. But they
they Alicia and Joel, and they separate. They go for
a group, They go for a walk. This was a deep,
deep walk.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean, I mean, if you're not you know again,
they really break down what it's like, what it was
like for them growing up, and Joe Allen said that,
you know, death would have felt better than living with
her mom, which I feel like a lot of troubled
kids go through and say, and the reasons they run
(15:21):
away or God forbid, hurt themselves or get into drugs.
I wouldn't want to be a kid again for anything,
Teddy No.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But also hearing her story about her and her sister
were like neither of them were.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I mean not that kids are bad, but like inherently
like that they were sent away to these camps or
schools or whatever you want to call them, and like
with people that were court ordered to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, it's a very sad thing.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like it's just because her mom, you know, didn't want
to be a mom or listen, it's I feel like
the hardest thing as a mom.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And I've cried myself to sleep many times when the
kids were little and I was a single mom, and
I felt like I was too hard on them. But
I was always afraid of them growing up bad. I
was afraid of them getting into do I needed them
to be afraid of me.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, so I feel you on that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But for me, I want the kids to be comfortable
to talk to me. That's my biggest thing, Like if
they are if they feel like because I'm not able
to do all the things that I used to be
able to do right, Like I'm not hero mom anymore,
but like I want the kids to be able to
confide in me.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You're hero mom. You fight every day and you are
there for them. Okay, you are hero mom. And what
they're seeing in you and what you're going through right
now is going to teach them to be strong through
their life, which is what they're going to need more
than showing up or riding.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
A horse with them my gosh, you're just almost now
you're going to make me Ashley, I cry.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
No, that's not actually I cry. I'm talking to you
from a mother.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Whose I know like that, that actual thing gets me
because that's I I promise you that that's my biggest
Like I can't even tell you I was I was
talking with earlier, but like I as a you know,
a single mom, my first time being a single mom
on Mother's Day because last.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Year I was still like in deep deep recovery. I
don't know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Do you all? They want you to be there. They
want you to be happy. Kids need to know everything's okay,
whether it is or it isn't right, and watching you
happy and sit there and be with them is what
they're going to remember more than kids have gone on trips.
Your kids want for nothing. They want for nothing, honestly,
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and and all the stuff you've done with them since
before you got sick, Okay, it was enough for a lifetime,
because most moms don't do that in a week when
I've done for them, and in years, I mean most
moms don't do that in a life lifetime with their children.
The stuff that you've done and continue to do.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So you remember that, thank you because it's like but
it's also scary.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, do you remember your first I mean, how
old were you were your kids when you and frank
broke up.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well, Frankie was just born, so twenty eight my thirtieth birthday,
I was sitting alone with them at a pizza place.
They don't remember it, yeah, but I was with them.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I have this fear of like being alone, that I'm
not enough for them being alone.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You are enough, You are enough, and I thought that too,
And sometimes being alone with them is way better than
being with someone who takes so much from you that
you are not yourself. You're one hundred percent with them
because you are alone.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, No, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I would have spent my life upset, mad, sitting by
the window, doubting myself, arguing, yeah, it was one hundred
given to them because I was alone.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, and that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And I don't knock people who are married and mothers.
It's how much you give of yourself, not who you're.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
With, right, how much you give of yourself and how
much they can feel like.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I mean, it's like I know all these things within
that little like bit of I guess it's insecurity creeps up.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I did myself always Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So I mean they do. They got Joe Allen and
Alicia go on this walk. They both end up getting
emotional here because Joe Allen really breaks it down with
what's going on with her mom, and like her mom's
in Turchill multiple places, and the only reason she ended
up being able to go home was because they had
said they would have to give her over to the
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state for her to stay at the current facility she
was at.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I this sticks in my head so much that I
just have to I have never left it. When I
was a sheriff's office and I remember I was bringing
this kid and he did it, took a joy ride
in a stolen car with a bunch of kids. The
rest of the kids got to go home. This kid
still stayed in the shelter for over a year, a boy,
and I remember him saying to me, I'm going to
go home today, right And it was after like a year,
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and I knew his mother didn't show up for him,
and I knew when he got into court he was
coming back. And it never left me. It's a nightmare.
And he was such a good kid, and then he
fought and he got in trouble. He had to be
restrained because he flipped out because just because he had
nowhere else to go. So many kids are fucked in
this system because nobody is there to take them in.
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They have to stay where they are because it's no
place else for them.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
There's no place for them to go.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And I mean, she's she's saying, you know, I wasn't
even She's like, I was a straight a student. Yeah,
like I mean maybe I liked boys, or it was
a little flirtatious, or I had big boobs or whatever
it was. She's like, but my sister and I we
were pretty easy kids.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And do you know what, look at her life and
Joellen could have been a lot of things. Joellen could
have been a lot of worse things than you know,
talking about somebody's affair, whatever it is. They're going to say,
she did finally for bankruptcy. But she's doing so well
with her life considering her childhood. Making a victim of herself.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, she's not. And she's she's funny, she's chrying. She
like shows the emotions. She told the story and then
not stupid.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
It gave Alicia the.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Opportunity to kind of open up on why she seems
to be a little bit scared to Mary Billy because
of her abandonment issues, because of her.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Dad, that that might be it, and you could look
at it any way you want, Like, like I said,
you fuck up with your kids, call it mom guilt.
I mean, you know one's perfect. They don't come with
a blueprint. They don't come with a plan book. Growing.
You do the best with what you have. Yeah, and
you always have to fight for them, like my mom says,
(22:11):
you just fight for them in a different way, like
if they're bad, you got to find a way that
works to get them back to you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But I liked that entire I like that entire conversation.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It's bad. But do you know parents Helton start, You
know she talks about that going away.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, going I watched a bunch of documentaries about this.
There's also like a I can't remember who the actress is,
but it's like Wayward Girls or something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Such a good show.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But it's all about like, you know, kids that are
sent away and just the lack you know, they're taken
in the middle of the night, they don't know what's coming.
I just couldn't even imagine. I couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But yeah, it's I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Sure their parents thought maybe they were doing the right thing.
Yea better off in the freaking military, I think, Yeah,
I don't know. Anyway, I'm I'm sorry for any kid
that ever gets hurt. Every kid deserves peace, They deserve
to be loved, and they deserve the necessities in life
(23:20):
at best. At best, that's all. Yeah, I can't imagine
what my fucking kids would say about me, about the
way I raised them.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh god, I'm sure they would say great things, because one,
you're hilarious, Two, you're honest.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Three like, you're so trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Like and I can your your relationship with your kids
is so good. Every time you talk to them or
talk about them, your whole face lights up.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know it's going to manifest some way down the road. Well,
oh good, thank you, Amanda. Anyway, on the way back
to the castle, Rula tax Alicia and she's in too
much pain to join the trip. I remember when this happened,
and Rule is confessional. She says she had one of
those viruses that they can't pinpoint or categorized. Well, I
(24:09):
don't have a medical degree, but I would call it
the Mistress virus. Now, I was going to.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Say, if she has a disease, it's called avoidability.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, there you go, like there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Then when you know, we see rule of why she's
not coming, But then when we see the scene at
her house when her husband and the kids are coming
into her room and she's in glam, that's I'm sorry,
that's glam, full glam, that's full glam, laying in bed
like it really reminded me of like whatever that TikTok was,
(24:42):
where you were like, I'm sick and then you end
up in like Disney World.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
That's what it felt like to me. She and she
was sick and she kissed him.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, when you're really sick, will you give your I mean,
I guess if the.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Foolish pride condition here, like she wants to show him,
you know, show everybody. I'm standing by my man. I
have no problem with that, because if you're gonna stay married,
then that's what you should do. But there's also a
point where you have to say, here's how I feel.
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And I said this to myself yesterday. I think I
was talking to myself and I said, if Joellen, Oh,
I said, it's Paul. If Joellen did this and called
me and shoved all this and told the whole fuck
in town and the whole city, yeah, I'd be mad,
but I'd also be like, whatever your intentions were, thanks
for bringing it to my attention.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, thank you for bringing it to my attention where
I think also there's something and I mean I have
I have been like this before when things were not
going well in my relationship, where my body kind of
shut down.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, stress can kill you.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Like stress, it just hits you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And you know, she might just want to be feeling
love from her husband because she probably knows that what
is I don't think she thinks they're bots or AI.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Listen, met I had a friend who actually got a
volunteer like talk the doctor into giving her a hysterectomy
when her husband cheated on her so he would come home.
There's women that get pregnant when they find out their
husband's cheating on them, so you could get them back.
Nothing's bringing somebody back or stopping them from doing anything
unless it's what they want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, but I think what this is doing, and correct
me if I'm wrong, like, how is she going to
be on next season when she doesn't show up to
anything this season?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
She shows up in the end. She shows up in
the end.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Okay, she'll show up. She's she's she's truly she was sick. No, no,
when I tell you her body absolutely shut down because
we're not seeing behind the scenes. Rule is not going
to show her hand. She's not going to show you
that she's breaking down, probably crying in a closet somewhere.
She'll never show you that. Never, You're never going to
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see it. But you have to know what's happening.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, you have to know that she is.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Her heart is broken, she is breaking down inside, and
that's what we're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
But we're just seeing a glammed out version of it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Listen, she wants to show a topic steer, she's she's
got a safe face somewhere.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's what it is. So Rosen, Kelsey and Ashley convinced
the Butlers to go down the water slide with them.
What did you think about this water slide scene?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Well, okay, the water slide thing like I have for
my kids' birthdays.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I thought it was so weird too, kind of stupid,
but they liked it. Rosi and Kelsey enjoyed it. They
kind of bonded it going down the slide together in
their Baywatch.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, and they're like partial thongs where they're now like
have chafing because they I mean, I can't.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Even I don't suffer a while. I'm not doing discomfort.
First of all, one pieces don't fit me. I have
a long tour, so it makes me look worse.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Cold. I think it was cold.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You are let me be cold either, by the way.
And yeah, so Liz is like, honestly, girls, this is great.
Ashley I is having a great time because this is
probably what she does with her kids on a daily basis.
You know, she's a mom that plays. I was not
a player. I didn't play with my kids, like right,
So but she's into that. So the other ones are
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having a good time. They're having fun with the boys,
and like Liz is like, you know, there's two types
of women. There's women that like younger men m hm
and have fun with that, and then there's women that don't.
And I will be the one. A younger man does
not do it for me or excite me in any way.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
No, but I think you know, it gave them bands,
it gave them something to do.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Exactly what are they supposed to do? They should have
threw the dolls down the slide. If they would have
been playing with the dolls and putting them down the slide,
then I would have really been excited for this.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Oh my gosh, because.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I can't even imagine what the reaction would have been
when she got back from her walk and saw them
with those dolls.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I would have had those dolls hanging in her
like if I was fighting with Alicia. The shit I
would have done to her dolls.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Oh my gosh, her dolls.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
These dolls are even creepier than the other dolls.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
By the way, I do know, I mean the Brats
dolls were not.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But anyway, but I mean, I get Liz's reaction here,
but I also you know, it's I'm very much one
of those people when you get split up in the group,
you do whatever activity.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Not that, not that, not a fucking chance.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You wouldn't do that. No way would you go into
a helicopter.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, I hung out. I hung I dangled from beneath
a helicopter in Traders over a fire, bring a fire,
I would go into helicopter. I'm not sliding down in
a bathing suit ever, show my legs. I'm not doing it,
especially me with my fat ass sliding down with them.
Can you imagine what that going up my whole fucking
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cap there? Can you imagine what that would look like?
Just just for one second, just take think about it.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
But Liz wasn't having it.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Good friend, Liz, good for you all day long.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Ashley tries to like perk her up, but it doesn't.
It only makes things worse. And then Ashley's like, you know,
I think I made some strides with Liz, and I'm like,
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know, there's times to leave people alone, and Liz
needed her space. Liz was starting to feel like where
do I fit in here? Yeah? I feel like this
is the turning point where Liz Liz is like, I'm
a lot older. Where's my friend Delores? Can I call Delors? Please? Yes?
Why am I not on this trip with Liz?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Because these trips, even though they're closer to home than
a lot of the trips we've been on.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
They can be kind of lonely.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of work
time that's NonStop, but then there can also be a
lot of downtime.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I love the downtime, my being alone, but not in
a scary castle in a room by myself. And Liz
was like in the perch of the castle.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And then on the boat actually gets work. They decide
to go on the boat. They're they're like, it's murky weather,
it's not great weather, but Liz feels more comfortable going
on the boat because Liz is a boat goal. And
then on the boat as actually is like getting off
one boat for another. She finds out that her son
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is needing to go to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, you know, her dad right time to go home.
It's absolutely time to go home, especially knowing that her
dad's a doctor instead he's got to go. So she
kind of I understood that cry. Actually, that's the first
cry that I agreed with, because when your dad says
he's because typically her dad, because he's a doctor, let
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it go, Let it go. You know, it's serious, get home.
That's scary. And he's a baby. Babies can take a
turn in a second.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So Jared wasn't there. I understood that cry completely.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, So Ashley, yes, get your ass home.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
And I but I think everybody else wanted to leave
with Ashley. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
And by the way, the boat was cold. It was
kind of like falling flat. Now they've fought, they've talked, like, okay,
there's not.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Enough people here, there's it's it's The boat was kind
of a dad like normally there's big fights on the boat.
No one's it seems like they're eating the same things
over and over again.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Listen. Yeah, I think that they could have cut this
short because the scene coming up after this is good.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Shit, that's what we needed.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
But because I mean, we see here Kelsey tells the
girls that Joellen had sex on a boat with her ex,
and then she's like, it's not really on a boat.
It was on land and she was a slutner. She goes,
I was a slutt my twin.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's okay, but.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Like, we can't also forget she also hooked up with
his brother.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Listen, Rhode Island's very small. They all fish in the
same pond. I guess it was okay with the brothers.
I hope it was okay.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Joellen loves to keep things in the family.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, that's it. The sister the brother. Rhode Island's way
too small for my taste. I mean, yeah, I need
so in Ireland to find a guy that wasn't with
anybody I know. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
The boat is the complete bust.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And then back at the castle, Joellen gets proof that
Brian is.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Still having an affair. Well, I thought she was maybe
going to pill for out this information.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And not show everybody there. No, right, all of you
guys got it.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Listen. Information is power and what you do with it
is on you. So do you think that she's a
good housewife because she's like not keeping it to herself?
Because I would. I would have died with that. I
would have brought it to my grave.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I feel like I feel like the differences is that
she is not close friends with either of them.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Okay, I think if.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I think if the mistress or yes, yes, that makes
a big difference.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think if the mistress was her close friend, or
if I think Rula was one of her really good friends,
I think she could have probably taken it to the grave.
I think she probably would have and then just told
her friend in private. But I think in this instance
she knew ding ding Ning. Now I can show that
I'm right.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And already by now Brian's called her work or he
didn't call her work already by now. Joe Wellen feels
that he tried to get her fired for getting involved
in his extramarital affairs by telling his wife and telling
going around and digging for information.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So it's like game on, yeah, AND's essentially what the
video is. It's a video where the girls are all
watching Brian caressing the mistress's ass. In a five minute
hug two days before the poolo match, Joellen says they
definitely just had sex because her nipples are out.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh my god, I know if I was, how do
you come back from this?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
But I think my nipples are always out.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You're mine too, mine too, I think, Joelle. Maybe maybe
Joellen was told that happened. I don't know, but how
is this is a point now where Rula has gone
to bat for this guy above and beyond, stayed with him,
and now things keep happening. You know, you could get
over something if it stops, but you can't get over
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it if it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Joan also told us first she's like first certain the
day of the polo match he was with the mistress.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
See I wanted to know that because they both told me, yeah,
straight up, no, that never happened.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I wasn't and Joelle even said the father wasn't ever
even in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Joel and said all that, yeah, and she was allowed
to They know the buffer didn't stop her.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
No, the buffer didn't stop her. Something why the buffer's
not stopping? Or can we get production to pay whatever
they need for the release of this video so we
can talk about it on the pod. I think after
reunion I would be like, Dolores, give me your glasses,
come sit in this room with me, and We're watching
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this over and over again, like I'm glutton for punishment,
Like I need I need the proof.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I need to see the pictures. That's I need to
see the video.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Because you know why I need the proof because I
needed to help me make my decision and I need
to know.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like, especially when you're with a man like that who
probably gaslights her quite a bit, you need to know
that what you're seeing is real.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well that's how I ended my marriage, Yeah, because I
made my sister. I was curled up in a ball
and my sister goes, what can I do to help you?
And I go, I need to know for sure, because
I'm gonna have to give up my whole family at
this point, I'm not living like this. And I was
being told I was being gaslight and my sister wait,
went and waited outside a hole. It was cold, and
(37:37):
she calls me. She goes, I'm gonna I have to pee.
I can't sit outside this house anymore. I go, please.
It's about the time where I was told. He goes
there and he showed up. My sister called me and
she's crying, and she goes, I'm sorry, he's here. Oh
my got in the car and I went there. I go,
I have to see it from myself. She goes, but
this is what he's wearing. This is what she's wearing.
They just went in the house. It's the middle of
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the day.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Did you go knock on the door?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Asked Frank What I did? After I got there, he
jumped out the back window and ran down the street
and left her. And she made the mistake of coming out.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh no, oh my gosh. That's a show in itself.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
But but now, after that day, Teddy, I was able
to live with the decision I had a mate make.
But you were. But that's because I wanted it. She
doesn't want it, don't chove it down her throat.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
She doesn't want it. Well she's or maybe she's just
not ready by now.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
She should have sat with the mistress. Yeah, I mean
it's a lot, but I mean it's really good. I'm
excited for next week. Yeah, I mean, it was a
good show. I love you, Dolores love I wish you
were there. You would have given Liz some comfort during
the water slides.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Me and Liz belonged to be together that day.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It was meant to be. But no, it was a
good episode, and we learned a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
We did. We learned a lot and explains a lot
of you know, learn about somebody's childhood and it'll explain
a lot about why they tick and what they do
and what they're capable of as well. So yeah, totally, yeah,
go ahead anyway, all right, bye guys. H
To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam
Ridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Dolores Catanya.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hi. I have questions, Yes, I have with Joellen yesterday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I love Joe Ellen.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I knew you would.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I wanted more time with Joellen. I wanted to get
in deeper with Joe Ellen.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh it doesn't take more time, it would do it.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, like I forget. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I feel like Joel and somebody I would want to
be friends with outside of doing this podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, then that's really nice. I'm sure she'll be very
happy to hear that, because I think she probably feels
like because she's you know, the role that she's taking
on in Rhode Island is something that would make people
not want to be her friend.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yea more of a shit string role.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well she should know that, you're like that too.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So it was like, yeah, you know game, yeah no,
but I really liked her and I felt like there
was something very honest about her.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Some people you talk to and you know, they may
be the truth tellers and but not the full truth.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, but I want to say the what do you
call it a selective when you hear things, the select
selective memory, yeah, or when you act like you don't hear. Yeah,
So it's selective hearing. It's selective truth telling in this business.
And listen, I think she's just ready to say, go ahead,
bring something up about me. I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, she doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I mean, we we brought up everything, We brought up
her filing for bankruptcy, I mean, and she just took it,
every single thing.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Girl.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I know she didn't mind it at all.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's what I call a housewife porn star.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And then Edwin.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Today, Edwin and Eddie are interviewing Jerry.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, I love that. You're gonna love him. He's a
guy's guy. Paul lives for him. I think Paul like
with datum like I swear he now, but he's just
such a good man, good guy. They're an amazing couple.
But you're going to love.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Jerry, now, That's what I said ed when I'm like,
you're gonna love him. Like watching him on the show,
he just seems like a really good guy. And I'm like,
and you can get some information out of him too,
because Liz holds all the secrets.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You're not getting shit out of him. You're not. No,
he's no slouch.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
He's no slouch.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Now. If you want some shit Joe Ellen's husband Gary.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Garn, Frank can give it to hus sometimes too.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Frank tells you whatever you want, Eddie. If you call
Frank right now and ask him about you know how
many times Frank's gotten in trouble by me a million,
the kids all the time, all the time, Frank, Frank,
I know you're going on to tease, shut your fucking
mouth and you and then he comes on and he
(03:12):
tells you whatever you ask him.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
He's like, girls, you're gonna get me in trouble for this.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And he doesn't. And he's such a he's like a
Frank Catania is a big like he cries when he
watches that those shows like Home Run Now he cries,
or when the boss reveals who they are, when the
boss doesn't know and he works sobbing on the couch,
(03:39):
don't show me, Nani. So he's like Ashley, I yeah, yeah,
And lately more than ever, with the post about how
much he loves his kids, we laugh today. The post
was my job is my loving my daughter. What he's
(03:59):
like so emotional. I told you men change in their sixties.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But sometimes when men post motivational posts or like things
about love and I don't know, declaration, I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Do about love. No, he just does about how much
he loves the kids. Okay, it's just softing. I always
wanted him to be like that, and I love that
he's like that, because when they were little, he was
not like that. We got a fight. One time he goes,
we're getting difced. He goes, you go after my money.
I'm gonna take the kids. And then he goes, no,
I'm not. I'm gonna take the shorehouse. He hadn't even
(04:33):
come up with his I didn't even even get to
answer him, and I would like to. And then he
like took his words back right away, because not the kids,
not the kids. Not the not the kids. That's too much,
cramps saya. Not the kids, the shorehouse. I'm taking the shorehouse.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Take it, Take it, buddy, go for it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So it starts out they're still at the castle. They're
still at the castle, and everybody's waking up. I do
appreciate how these women don't mind wearing their pajamas on camera.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I appreciate everything about their realness.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, like they're in their jammys, they're not.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean, the only one that put on glam before
coming down in her jammis was Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah. Kelsey's still she's a glam like she's she's a
pageant girl. She's glamorous. You're not going to see us
doing that. Listen, New Jersey's like that too.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, but Rosie seems pretty sick.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's I haven't seen Rosie in the state before.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think Rosie has ibs, honestly, And I did say
she she bleeds out of her butt. Yeah, and that
was while ago. That's why she stopped working. She used
to wear diapers to work. But here's the thing, Rosie
maybe has a nervous stomach from growing up from a
like a mom who she says was very hard on
her and constantly she had to do everything that her
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mom said. Well, that's what a child and parent do.
You have to do what your parents say. I mean,
that doesn't mean it was so crazy, but I think
that her mother put a lot of pressure on her
the way she talks growing up, and that could cause
stomach problems later. On or maybe she just has stomach problems.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, but my stomach problems medication.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, there you go. And that's why we have the
commercial for this medication that you just brought up so
you don't burn, but send it to Rosie. But so
you know, I think we'll see in this in this
episode a lot of times. Listen, and I've said it before,
we're a product of our childhood. Yeah, you could be
raised in any environment, but what you went through with
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your parents that stays with you. The way you were
raised stays with you. And I always say when you're
getting married or when you meet someone, meet their family
because you cannot fight the DNA.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I feel like we've heard a lot about Joe
Ellen's family and how she was raised with her mother
in that relationship, but I don't feel like I've heard.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Much about Rosie.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't am I missing something that is there, like
an episode that I miss, Like I don't know so
much about Rosie's past.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, Ashley gets emotional defending Rosie at this table,
and she always gets emotional, but I think it's very
hard for her to jump in on these things.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Because Joellen has to laugh. Like Joellen can't even contain herself.
She's laughing at Ashley crying again?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Why do can can somebody can we get like a
down to why this coming from someone who hasn't cried
in years, Like, it's so hard for me to cry
and to be vulnerable and to allow myself to cry
even if I am well, I don't even evoke that.
But like if I see something sad, like with an animal,
(07:59):
I get upset, you know. But when I feel like
I want to cry, I stop myself. What is it
that does that to me? And what is it that
does that to her? By the end of this season,
I need an answer to that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I think somebody in your life told you, no crying, Well,
be strong, strong people don't cry.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, how about if you cry, I'll give you a
reason a cry.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
No no? Yeah, well so all right, but I know
a lot of it, and I don't think that she
was raised that way. I think she was raised to
show her emotions. And everything's okay, I mean, but I
think the fact that they didn't give us, they did
us a disservice by not giving us a little bit
of Ashley eye on all for years of the Bachelor
(08:44):
and Bachelor in paradise because if you would have seen
the ridiculous things she cried about during those four seasons.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, it's so intrigued by this.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They I can't believe, maybe because they can't do a
deal with ABC, but like, there were so many things
she was on, so many different you know, like different opportunities,
and none of them made her last crying like it
was every single time.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, I'm gonna tell you this, Rosie handled Ashley her
ass because Ashley wasn't getting involved in a lot, she
wasn't saying a lot. Of course, you know, she cries
that there's not a lot of heartache in her life
and don't worry, Ashley. I hope you never know it.
But you're still young and these you know, she's had
(09:33):
a great life and she cries about having nothing to
cry about. But at some point Rosie goes, you're gonna
be my friend, like on the boat and people come
at me. You need to open your mouth, right. Yeah,
So now you know, I felt bad that she said
that to Ashley, but now I see she saved Ashley's
ass because now Ashley is more vocal. Ashley, you know,
(09:55):
she broke the seal.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Ashley's she's not her comfort zone. I don't think it's
out of her comfort it's out of her comfort zone,
but I think it's something she can get better at.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well. She's doing it and I and I like her
in her confessionals and I like her principles. Let me
tell you something. When they were on this trip, I
got a call from Ashley I or I got a
text and I was in Ireland because I said, you know,
when I was told that then I wouldn't be on
the trip. I went to a wedding in Ireland and
Ashley texted me and felt bad that I wasn't there. Oh,
(10:29):
you know, I will not forget that. That's a principled person.
And there was another time where Brian's mistress was at
a party outside of filming and tried to take a
picture with Ashley, and Ashley didn't take a picture with her.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I think Ashley's a good person, I know, and I
think that's why it's hard for her to come in
and go for the other women or have somebody's back,
because it's not confrontational. She's not confrontational, and even her
own emotions come up, like she could just be talking
(11:01):
about her kids or Jared or whatever it may be,
and she's going to be crying about it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Right, So listen, I think we're going to see Ashley,
and I'm going to tell you this. I think that
this show is going to make Ashley grow in certain ways.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And I think so too.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think, I mean, I hate to bring it back
to myself, but I guess here we go and bring
it back to myself.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But I remember, bring it back. That's okay.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
But I remember my first season on Housewives.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I kind of felt like I didn't know what to do.
Like I didn't have this natural comfort. I wasn't like
comfortable in front of the cameras. I wasn't comfortable like
confronting people about things, Like I really didn't know what
I was doing. So I just kind of became a
shot of myself. Did anyone take you under their wing
(11:54):
and say no you no, I know? And yeah, sure
they don't do that too much. So yeah, anyway, so
it was just that was It kind of just happened
like that. But I think with time then you kind
of learned. Then you're like, oh, okay, this is this
is how it works, this is what I got to do.
These are my and then also, these are my people,
Like she may right now having Rosie's back, but I
(12:17):
have a feeling Ashley, I am Rosie might not be
the closest when it comes down to it, because I
think that even when they were on the slides and
doing all these things, like sometimes I feel like Rosie's
a little phony you do.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I can't help it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well, well, I'd like to see no one's coming for
Ashley in the history of this show. If it lasts
twenty five years, they will never come for it, because
there's no reason to come for this angel of a human.
But I'd like to see if it was reciprocated. I'm
all about that, Like, you don't have to do as
much as I do for you as a friend, not
(12:53):
to bring it about me, you know, But this is
what I am looking at. And we've seen this in Summerhouse.
Spect people to do for you, but don't stab me
in the back.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, don't stap me in it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's all I can ask for you, And I don't.
I don't think Rosie, you know, could ever ever do
such a thing to her. I don't Maybe who knows,
who knows? Well, actually I don't know. Maybe we'll hear
Rosie did do that one day? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, I mean anything, anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
This show evokes paranoia, evil self changes you.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Changed, changes you.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So so I guess, I mean, who knows, But sitting
at this table, and I guess Rosie saying she was
upset brought some type of brought uh Kelsey to say, uh,
let me let me you know, let's make a truce here.
Let me go up there and soften it up, because
maybe I'm being too hard on her.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, like, let's talk upstairs.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They up, they find some peace.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
But do they really find some peace?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Well for the minute, for the minute they really is
there about really they're split up that day, so we
already know Joellen and It's going with Alicia on a
walk or something, and then the other girls are in
the castle swim pad, so like they already know how
they're being separated.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Why didn't I feel like Liz should have went with
them with Joel and Alisha.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Because Liz might not have problems with her mother.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh well no, but still she could have been I
feel like that would have been.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
But know what I noticed, somebody's about going on the.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Slide, and you'll never catch me going down any kind
of slide.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, Liz was pissed about it, and then Liz really
wanted nothing to do with Ashley I afterwards, either when
Ashley I tried to like come cheer up with her,
mass garrol underneath her eyes.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
They don't care about she don't.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Give a shit.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, she didn't give a shit about nothing. But they
they Alicia and Joel, and they separate. They go for
a group, They go for a walk. This was a deep,
deep walk.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean, I mean, if you're not you know again,
they really break down what it's like, what it was
like for them growing up, and Joe Allen said that,
you know, death would have felt better than living with
her mom, which I feel like a lot of troubled
kids go through and say, and the reasons they run
(15:21):
away or God forbid, hurt themselves or get into drugs.
I wouldn't want to be a kid again for anything,
Teddy No.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But also hearing her story about her and her sister
were like neither of them were.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I mean not that kids are bad, but like inherently
like that they were sent away to these camps or
schools or whatever you want to call them, and like
with people that were court ordered to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, it's a very sad thing.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like it's just because her mom, you know, didn't want
to be a mom or listen, it's I feel like
the hardest thing as a mom.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And I've cried myself to sleep many times when the
kids were little and I was a single mom, and
I felt like I was too hard on them. But
I was always afraid of them growing up bad. I
was afraid of them getting into do I needed them
to be afraid of me.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, so I feel you on that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But for me, I want the kids to be comfortable
to talk to me. That's my biggest thing, Like if
they are if they feel like because I'm not able
to do all the things that I used to be
able to do right, Like I'm not hero mom anymore,
but like I want the kids to be able to
confide in me.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You're hero mom. You fight every day and you are
there for them. Okay, you are hero mom. And what
they're seeing in you and what you're going through right
now is going to teach them to be strong through
their life, which is what they're going to need more
than showing up or riding.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
A horse with them my gosh, you're just almost now
you're going to make me Ashley, I cry.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
No, that's not actually I cry. I'm talking to you
from a mother.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Whose I know like that, that actual thing gets me
because that's I I promise you that that's my biggest
Like I can't even tell you I was I was
talking with earlier, but like I as a you know,
a single mom, my first time being a single mom
on Mother's Day because last.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Year I was still like in deep deep recovery. I
don't know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Do you all? They want you to be there. They
want you to be happy. Kids need to know everything's okay,
whether it is or it isn't right, and watching you
happy and sit there and be with them is what
they're going to remember more than kids have gone on trips.
Your kids want for nothing. They want for nothing, honestly,
(17:47):
and and all the stuff you've done with them since
before you got sick, Okay, it was enough for a lifetime,
because most moms don't do that in a week when
I've done for them, and in years, I mean most
moms don't do that in a life lifetime with their children.
The stuff that you've done and continue to do.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So you remember that, thank you because it's like but
it's also scary.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, do you remember your first I mean, how
old were you were your kids when you and frank
broke up.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well, Frankie was just born, so twenty eight my thirtieth birthday,
I was sitting alone with them at a pizza place.
They don't remember it, yeah, but I was with them.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I have this fear of like being alone, that I'm
not enough for them being alone.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You are enough, You are enough, and I thought that too,
And sometimes being alone with them is way better than
being with someone who takes so much from you that
you are not yourself. You're one hundred percent with them
because you are alone.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, No, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I would have spent my life upset, mad, sitting by
the window, doubting myself, arguing, yeah, it was one hundred
given to them because I was alone.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, and that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And I don't knock people who are married and mothers.
It's how much you give of yourself, not who you're.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
With, right, how much you give of yourself and how
much they can feel like.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I mean, it's like I know all these things within
that little like bit of I guess it's insecurity creeps up.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I did myself always Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So I mean they do. They got Joe Allen and
Alicia go on this walk. They both end up getting
emotional here because Joe Allen really breaks it down with
what's going on with her mom, and like her mom's
in Turchill multiple places, and the only reason she ended
up being able to go home was because they had
said they would have to give her over to the
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state for her to stay at the current facility she
was at.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I this sticks in my head so much that I
just have to I have never left it. When I
was a sheriff's office and I remember I was bringing
this kid and he did it, took a joy ride
in a stolen car with a bunch of kids. The
rest of the kids got to go home. This kid
still stayed in the shelter for over a year, a boy,
and I remember him saying to me, I'm going to
go home today, right And it was after like a year,
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and I knew his mother didn't show up for him,
and I knew when he got into court he was
coming back. And it never left me. It's a nightmare.
And he was such a good kid, and then he
fought and he got in trouble. He had to be
restrained because he flipped out because just because he had
nowhere else to go. So many kids are fucked in
this system because nobody is there to take them in.
(20:39):
They have to stay where they are because it's no
place else for them.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
There's no place for them to go.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And I mean, she's she's saying, you know, I wasn't
even She's like, I was a straight a student. Yeah,
like I mean maybe I liked boys, or it was
a little flirtatious, or I had big boobs or whatever
it was. She's like, but my sister and I we
were pretty easy kids.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And do you know what, look at her life and
Joellen could have been a lot of things. Joellen could
have been a lot of worse things than you know,
talking about somebody's affair, whatever it is. They're going to say,
she did finally for bankruptcy. But she's doing so well
with her life considering her childhood. Making a victim of herself.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, she's not. And she's she's funny, she's chrying. She
like shows the emotions. She told the story and then
not stupid.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
It gave Alicia the.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Opportunity to kind of open up on why she seems
to be a little bit scared to Mary Billy because
of her abandonment issues, because of her.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Dad, that that might be it, and you could look
at it any way you want, Like, like I said,
you fuck up with your kids, call it mom guilt.
I mean, you know one's perfect. They don't come with
a blueprint. They don't come with a plan book. Growing.
You do the best with what you have. Yeah, and
you always have to fight for them, like my mom says,
(22:11):
you just fight for them in a different way, like
if they're bad, you got to find a way that
works to get them back to you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But I liked that entire I like that entire conversation.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It's bad. But do you know parents Helton start, You
know she talks about that going away.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, going I watched a bunch of documentaries about this.
There's also like a I can't remember who the actress is,
but it's like Wayward Girls or something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Such a good show.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But it's all about like, you know, kids that are
sent away and just the lack you know, they're taken
in the middle of the night, they don't know what's coming.
I just couldn't even imagine. I couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But yeah, it's I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Sure their parents thought maybe they were doing the right thing.
Yea better off in the freaking military, I think, Yeah,
I don't know. Anyway, I'm I'm sorry for any kid
that ever gets hurt. Every kid deserves peace, They deserve
to be loved, and they deserve the necessities in life
(23:20):
at best. At best, that's all. Yeah, I can't imagine
what my fucking kids would say about me, about the
way I raised them.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh god, I'm sure they would say great things, because one,
you're hilarious, Two, you're honest.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Three like, you're so trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Like and I can your your relationship with your kids
is so good. Every time you talk to them or
talk about them, your whole face lights up.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know it's going to manifest some way down the road. Well,
oh good, thank you, Amanda. Anyway, on the way back
to the castle, Rula tax Alicia and she's in too
much pain to join the trip. I remember when this happened,
and Rule is confessional. She says she had one of
those viruses that they can't pinpoint or categorized. Well, I
(24:09):
don't have a medical degree, but I would call it
the Mistress virus. Now, I was going to.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Say, if she has a disease, it's called avoidability.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, there you go, like there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Then when you know, we see rule of why she's
not coming, But then when we see the scene at
her house when her husband and the kids are coming
into her room and she's in glam, that's I'm sorry,
that's glam, full glam, that's full glam, laying in bed
like it really reminded me of like whatever that TikTok was,
(24:42):
where you were like, I'm sick and then you end
up in like Disney World.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
That's what it felt like to me. She and she
was sick and she kissed him.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, when you're really sick, will you give your I mean,
I guess if the.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Foolish pride condition here, like she wants to show him,
you know, show everybody. I'm standing by my man. I
have no problem with that, because if you're gonna stay married,
then that's what you should do. But there's also a
point where you have to say, here's how I feel.
(25:17):
And I said this to myself yesterday. I think I
was talking to myself and I said, if Joellen, Oh,
I said, it's Paul. If Joellen did this and called
me and shoved all this and told the whole fuck
in town and the whole city, yeah, I'd be mad,
but I'd also be like, whatever your intentions were, thanks
for bringing it to my attention.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, thank you for bringing it to my attention where
I think also there's something and I mean I have
I have been like this before when things were not
going well in my relationship, where my body kind of
shut down.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, stress can kill you.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Like stress, it just hits you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And you know, she might just want to be feeling
love from her husband because she probably knows that what
is I don't think she thinks they're bots or AI.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Listen, met I had a friend who actually got a
volunteer like talk the doctor into giving her a hysterectomy
when her husband cheated on her so he would come home.
There's women that get pregnant when they find out their
husband's cheating on them, so you could get them back.
Nothing's bringing somebody back or stopping them from doing anything
unless it's what they want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, but I think what this is doing, and correct
me if I'm wrong, like, how is she going to
be on next season when she doesn't show up to
anything this season?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
She shows up in the end. She shows up in
the end.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Okay, she'll show up. She's she's she's truly she was sick. No, no,
when I tell you her body absolutely shut down because
we're not seeing behind the scenes. Rule is not going
to show her hand. She's not going to show you
that she's breaking down, probably crying in a closet somewhere.
She'll never show you that. Never, You're never going to
(26:57):
see it. But you have to know what's happening.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, you have to know that she is.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Her heart is broken, she is breaking down inside, and
that's what we're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
But we're just seeing a glammed out version of it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Listen, she wants to show a topic steer, she's she's
got a safe face somewhere.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's what it is. So Rosen, Kelsey and Ashley convinced
the Butlers to go down the water slide with them.
What did you think about this water slide scene?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Well, okay, the water slide thing like I have for
my kids' birthdays.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I thought it was so weird too, kind of stupid,
but they liked it. Rosi and Kelsey enjoyed it. They
kind of bonded it going down the slide together in
their Baywatch.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, and they're like partial thongs where they're now like
have chafing because they I mean, I can't.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Even I don't suffer a while. I'm not doing discomfort.
First of all, one pieces don't fit me. I have
a long tour, so it makes me look worse.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Cold. I think it was cold.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You are let me be cold either, by the way.
And yeah, so Liz is like, honestly, girls, this is great.
Ashley I is having a great time because this is
probably what she does with her kids on a daily basis.
You know, she's a mom that plays. I was not
a player. I didn't play with my kids, like right,
So but she's into that. So the other ones are
(28:19):
having a good time. They're having fun with the boys,
and like Liz is like, you know, there's two types
of women. There's women that like younger men m hm
and have fun with that, and then there's women that don't.
And I will be the one. A younger man does
not do it for me or excite me in any way.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
No, but I think you know, it gave them bands,
it gave them something to do.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Exactly what are they supposed to do? They should have
threw the dolls down the slide. If they would have
been playing with the dolls and putting them down the slide,
then I would have really been excited for this.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Oh my gosh, because.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I can't even imagine what the reaction would have been
when she got back from her walk and saw them
with those dolls.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But I would have had those dolls hanging in her
like if I was fighting with Alicia. The shit I
would have done to her dolls.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Oh my gosh, her dolls.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
These dolls are even creepier than the other dolls.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
By the way, I do know, I mean the Brats
dolls were not.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But anyway, but I mean, I get Liz's reaction here,
but I also you know, it's I'm very much one
of those people when you get split up in the group,
you do whatever activity.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Not that, not that, not a fucking chance.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You wouldn't do that. No way would you go into
a helicopter.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, I hung out. I hung I dangled from beneath
a helicopter in Traders over a fire, bring a fire,
I would go into helicopter. I'm not sliding down in
a bathing suit ever, show my legs. I'm not doing it,
especially me with my fat ass sliding down with them.
Can you imagine what that going up my whole fucking
(30:08):
cap there? Can you imagine what that would look like?
Just just for one second, just take think about it.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
But Liz wasn't having it.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Good friend, Liz, good for you all day long.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Ashley tries to like perk her up, but it doesn't.
It only makes things worse. And then Ashley's like, you know,
I think I made some strides with Liz, and I'm like,
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know, there's times to leave people alone, and Liz
needed her space. Liz was starting to feel like where
do I fit in here? Yeah? I feel like this
is the turning point where Liz Liz is like, I'm
a lot older. Where's my friend Delores? Can I call Delors? Please? Yes?
Why am I not on this trip with Liz?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Because these trips, even though they're closer to home than
a lot of the trips we've been on.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
They can be kind of lonely.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of work
time that's NonStop, but then there can also be a
lot of downtime.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I love the downtime, my being alone, but not in
a scary castle in a room by myself. And Liz
was like in the perch of the castle.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And then on the boat actually gets work. They decide
to go on the boat. They're they're like, it's murky weather,
it's not great weather, but Liz feels more comfortable going
on the boat because Liz is a boat goal. And
then on the boat as actually is like getting off
one boat for another. She finds out that her son
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is needing to go to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, you know, her dad right time to go home.
It's absolutely time to go home, especially knowing that her
dad's a doctor instead he's got to go. So she
kind of I understood that cry. Actually, that's the first
cry that I agreed with, because when your dad says
he's because typically her dad, because he's a doctor, let
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it go, Let it go. You know, it's serious, get home.
That's scary. And he's a baby. Babies can take a
turn in a second.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So Jared wasn't there. I understood that cry completely.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, So Ashley, yes, get your ass home.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
And I but I think everybody else wanted to leave
with Ashley. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
And by the way, the boat was cold. It was
kind of like falling flat. Now they've fought, they've talked, like, okay,
there's not.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Enough people here, there's it's it's The boat was kind
of a dad like normally there's big fights on the boat.
No one's it seems like they're eating the same things
over and over again.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Listen. Yeah, I think that they could have cut this
short because the scene coming up after this is good.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Shit, that's what we needed.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
But because I mean, we see here Kelsey tells the
girls that Joellen had sex on a boat with her ex,
and then she's like, it's not really on a boat.
It was on land and she was a slutner. She goes,
I was a slutt my twin.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's okay, but.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Like, we can't also forget she also hooked up with
his brother.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Listen, Rhode Island's very small. They all fish in the
same pond. I guess it was okay with the brothers.
I hope it was okay.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Joellen loves to keep things in the family.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, that's it. The sister the brother. Rhode Island's way
too small for my taste. I mean, yeah, I need
so in Ireland to find a guy that wasn't with
anybody I know. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
The boat is the complete bust.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And then back at the castle, Joellen gets proof that
Brian is.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Still having an affair. Well, I thought she was maybe
going to pill for out this information.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And not show everybody there. No, right, all of you
guys got it.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Listen. Information is power and what you do with it
is on you. So do you think that she's a
good housewife because she's like not keeping it to herself?
Because I would. I would have died with that. I
would have brought it to my grave.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I feel like I feel like the differences is that
she is not close friends with either of them.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Okay, I think if.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I think if the mistress or yes, yes, that makes
a big difference.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think if the mistress was her close friend, or
if I think Rula was one of her really good friends,
I think she could have probably taken it to the grave.
I think she probably would have and then just told
her friend in private. But I think in this instance
she knew ding ding Ning. Now I can show that
I'm right.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And already by now Brian's called her work or he
didn't call her work already by now. Joe Wellen feels
that he tried to get her fired for getting involved
in his extramarital affairs by telling his wife and telling
going around and digging for information.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So it's like game on, yeah, AND's essentially what the
video is. It's a video where the girls are all
watching Brian caressing the mistress's ass. In a five minute
hug two days before the poolo match, Joellen says they
definitely just had sex because her nipples are out.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Oh my god, I know if I was, how do
you come back from this?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
But I think my nipples are always out.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You're mine too, mine too, I think, Joelle. Maybe maybe
Joellen was told that happened. I don't know, but how
is this is a point now where Rula has gone
to bat for this guy above and beyond, stayed with him,
and now things keep happening. You know, you could get
over something if it stops, but you can't get over
(35:57):
it if it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Joan also told us first she's like first certain the
day of the polo match he was with the mistress.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
See I wanted to know that because they both told me, yeah,
straight up, no, that never happened.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I wasn't and Joelle even said the father wasn't ever
even in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Joel and said all that, yeah, and she was allowed
to They know the buffer didn't stop her.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
No, the buffer didn't stop her. Something why the buffer's
not stopping? Or can we get production to pay whatever
they need for the release of this video so we
can talk about it on the pod. I think after
reunion I would be like, Dolores, give me your glasses,
come sit in this room with me, and We're watching
(36:52):
this over and over again, like I'm glutton for punishment,
Like I need I need the proof.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I need to see the pictures. That's I need to
see the video.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Because you know why I need the proof because I
needed to help me make my decision and I need
to know.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like, especially when you're with a man like that who
probably gaslights her quite a bit, you need to know
that what you're seeing is real.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well that's how I ended my marriage, Yeah, because I
made my sister. I was curled up in a ball
and my sister goes, what can I do to help you?
And I go, I need to know for sure, because
I'm gonna have to give up my whole family at
this point, I'm not living like this. And I was
being told I was being gaslight and my sister wait,
went and waited outside a hole. It was cold, and
(37:37):
she calls me. She goes, I'm gonna I have to pee.
I can't sit outside this house anymore. I go, please.
It's about the time where I was told. He goes
there and he showed up. My sister called me and
she's crying, and she goes, I'm sorry, he's here. Oh
my got in the car and I went there. I go,
I have to see it from myself. She goes, but
this is what he's wearing. This is what she's wearing.
They just went in the house. It's the middle of
(37:57):
the day.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Did you go knock on the door?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Asked Frank What I did? After I got there, he
jumped out the back window and ran down the street
and left her. And she made the mistake of coming out.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh no, oh my gosh. That's a show in itself.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
But but now, after that day, Teddy, I was able
to live with the decision I had a mate make.
But you were. But that's because I wanted it. She
doesn't want it, don't chove it down her throat.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
She doesn't want it. Well she's or maybe she's just
not ready by now.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
She should have sat with the mistress. Yeah, I mean
it's a lot, but I mean it's really good. I'm
excited for next week. Yeah, I mean, it was a
good show. I love you, Dolores love I wish you
were there. You would have given Liz some comfort during
the water slides.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Me and Liz belonged to be together that day.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It was meant to be. But no, it was a
good episode, and we learned a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
We did. We learned a lot and explains a lot
of you know, learn about somebody's childhood and it'll explain
a lot about why they tick and what they do
and what they're capable of as well. So yeah, totally, yeah,
go ahead anyway, all right, bye guys. H
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Teddi Mellencamp
Tamra Judge
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