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February 29, 2024 57 mins

Episode 32 of the Burn factory podcast is with non other then #9 ranked UFC lightweight in the world Jalin Turner! Jalin Turner is one of the UFC's fastest rising prospects. Free of of his win over Bobby King Green in December, Jalin opens up about the controversial stoppage. Not only that, jalin Turner talks his childhood of overcoming countless burn moments of injuries to ultimately keep a positive mindset! You will not want to miss this episode! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to The Burn Factory Podcast with Priest and Phoenix Rivera.
Listen as the voice interview the biggest names and sports
and entertainment. The Burn Factory starts.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Now, what's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode of
the Burn Factory Podcast. I'm your host, Priest, jump by
my co host, my brother, the one and only, Phoenix
says up for the camera, what's up, y'all? This is
called the Burn Factory for a reason. I was literally
caught on fire fifty percent chance to survive, but through
that started this podcast because I believe every single person

out there on this planet goes through a burn moment
somewhere in their life.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You heard Pre say a burr moment s A burn
moment is a super hard time in your life. They
have to fight and overcome. And me and Priest believe
that every single person on this earth go through burn
moments that truly make them who they are. But what
an amazing guest we have today, Priest, our guest has
truly lived a life of up and downs, but is
now one of the UFC's biggest prospects. He's currently the

number nine ranked UFC lightweight in the world and has
many championship fights on his horizon, So please.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Give a warm welcome to Jayalen Turner. You welcome, mister Jalen.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I got to ask, where'd you get the nickname the tarantula?
Because that's pretty dope if you ask me.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I hinted have my own nickname. I used to have
an extensive collection of tarantula's. I have like over two
hundred at one point, and I was thinking of the
nicknames when I was like starting to train at the gym,
and everybody kept coming up with these goofy names, and
I was like, nah, I'm good. So I was like, hey,
Tarantia would be cool. No other fighter had it. Anderson
Silvil Wits a spider who was one of my favorite
fighters of all time, and I was like, hey, it

was just fit.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Did you have two hundred at the same time? Yeah,
at the same time you have two hundred? Ye?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Did you ever lose one?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Like, oh my gosh, what if one just bit you
in your nose while you're asleep?

Speaker 5 (02:04):
You know, I'm gonna tell you a crazy story. This
is I had one get out. It was a medically significant,
venomous tarantula. I lost it for like two weeks. Didn't
know what it was, super super defensive, super aggressive species.
And I looked everywhere in the house, could not find it.
So I was washing my hands. I just got to
use the bathroom. I was washing my hands and I

was about to use the towel and something told me
to check.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Like I don't know what it was. Something just said,
check behind the towel. I'll pull the towel back, and
it was right there.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh my gosh. So I would have freaked out. I
think I would have threw a punch if you asked me.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
That's the one thing I can't do. Maybe we got
to get a pet.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Taranchillaugh because spiders, snakes actually, for the most part, just
spiders and snakes are the ones that get me. Snakes too, snakes,
you like snakes too? Yeah, I just bought three snakes,
well type.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I bought two redtail bowls and one lucistic uh ball python.

Speaker 4 (03:01):

Speaker 2 (03:02):
They're not venomous either. No, No, that's not that of
non venomous snake. I can do venomous now. Yeah, agreed,
no snakes over here, Not for me.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
I would have brought a couple, you know what I mean.
If I knew that beforehand, I would have brought a
tranchelor I brought a snake.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh my gosh, if you put a tranchela on my hand,
I think I would literally shake the death.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I literally shake the death.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Say I promise. But whenever you pulled up here your
car even had spiderwebs on it that.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
They're fully living that nickname. Now I got you gotta
represent all right, Jaalen.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So on this show, we do use the acronym burns,
So each letter is kind of a different time in
your life. So starting with B B stands for the beginning.
So take us back, take us to your childhood. What
were kind of some of the burn moments that you
had to go through.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Man, you know it's for me, it's always hard to
go back and reflect on anything negative because I transition
my mind and how just such a positive out looking
on everything that happens to me. So if I dived
back to my childhood, let's say, you know, my my
dad ended up not being in my life and my

parents got a divorce, they separated. You know, my dad
left my life, and I guess you could look at
that as a as a burn moment, you know, early on.
But you know, in hindsight, now I look at it,
it just made me a better dad when I became
a dad. And you know, he ended up taking care
of his wife's grandkids, and I just look at it
as you know, he needed they needed him in their

life more than I needed him in my life. So
I was always always have a silver lining of everything.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, is that when he kind of started to develop
that mindset of always staying positive.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
No, I I started developing this mindset maybe, like showed
another another burn moment when I I had my first
surgery in the UFC. I had minisca surgery and that
was the longest time I ever went without fighting.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
I went eleven months without fighting.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Since I started my career, I didn't go more than
like three four months without like without fighting so or
training in general. And I went through just a bunch mentally.
I didn't know if I wanted to keep doing it,
and I wanted to do it so badly that and
I wasn't able to. It was just I was really
back and forth. So it kind of fortified my mind.

And then I just realized that thang, like I really
love what I do. You know, I loved training.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I loved.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I missed it so much, and I just had to
keep a positive outlook because me coming back to it
was what made transition my mind to being positive. So
I just looked at it as it was my mental workout.
So I was just working on my mindset and just
lifting weights with my mind. Id it stronger? And Yeah,
I couldn't do anything physically, so I had to do

it mentally.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Your mind's so powerful, it's crazy. When you put it
in the right direction, it could make the total difference.
Like me and Priests for both competitive golfers, and we've
been trying to really work on our mindset and like,
once you let go of the outcomes like your abilities,
you just open up a total new door for your
athletic abilities.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Say you perform the best whenever you're stress free.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, I completely agree with that.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And I believe that in the golf game too. Whenever
you go out there play golf and you're having fun,
you play the best golf. But if you're all tense,
you're like, man, I need to play good, I need
to win this tournament. It's not the best. But did
you go up on any.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Other sports or should I grew up skateboarding.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I played a little basketball, played a little football, nothing
too crazy. Never golf, though I've done, but I really
want a golf Like a lot of my friends play
golf and I always tell them, Hey, take me on golf,
and then we never end up doing it.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
We got a course right here, so we got play
a few holes out there. I'm so down, baby, let's
do it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
So, injuries have obviously been a big part of career,
but even dating back to when you were in high school,
you didn't even get to wrestle because of injuries. So
do you feel like that whole childhood of just like
that out come, out about outcome really like prepared you
for now and today.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Dang, I never looked at it like that. Yeah, dude,
honestly it did. You know. It's like I don't like,
I never looked at it like that. It's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
I broke my finger during wrestling season, and doctor said,
I broke it on my growth plate.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I broke my hands. I broke my hand punching somebody.
I broke my arm skateboarding. I broke my finger skateboarding.
Like I was in and out of a cast up
until my senior year of high school. So the beginning
of the year, I would be in the cast. End
of the year, I'd be in the cast. So it
was crazy.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Everybody called me like the cast kid, you know, the
cast boys. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know what.
I never connected those dots. I never I'm a think.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
You guys gotta go back.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
To saying everything happens for a reason.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
So yeah, yeah, it really does. I don't know what
the reason for those were, but.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, for sure, would you consider like skateboarding you're out
from fighting, just kind of connects you.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
With the world, you know, I think I think me
being a skateboarder gave me a lot of the personality
traits that I have now, because it's like you connect
with so many different walks of life and you just
have freedom to roam and you know, and you create,
and you do everything on your own and you create
your own style.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
You create an identity.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Through skateboarding, you know, just just doing what you love
and what you're passionate about and letting it flow. It's
like physical art, you know, which actually transitioned me into mma,
I guess, which is another physical art form.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
So yeah, when did you start skateboarding.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Shoot, I got my first skateboarding I was like like
seven years old.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
But I was just like ride around, like go off
ramps with my friends. Nothing crazy.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
And then once I started hitting like my teens, like
my early mid teens, that's when I started trying to
like take it seriously. But then again I kept getting injured,
so it couldn't go too far.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Is that what you wanted to do? Professional skateboarder?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah, it was either there was three things I wanted
to do in life. It was either something I had
to do with animals, something I to do with skateboarding,
or something I had to have to do with fighting.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
If you went the animal out, what do you think
you would end up as?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Honestly, probably some kind of vet veterinary technician or exotic
animals that you know. I always if I did go
to college, I probably would have studied herpetology, but I
didn't have a passion for it, and like I just
didn't know where the money was in it, you know,
like back then, Like I don't care now, but yeah,
it just didn't didn't call me anymore. So I love

animals to death, they don't get me wrong, but it
just didn't call me, you know, nothing like And then
when I found fighting, it was just like so random,
it was.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Completely crazy, Well how did you find it?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
So I started training in my backyard, you know, just
thinking like, okay, I could be good at this, you know,
training with some friends. Were just like literally in the backyard, sparring,
just training, bsing after high school or after like class
in high going stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
And then I was like, man, maybe I could take
this seriously.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Like something just clicked and I was like looking at
videos and I had a couch my in my backyard
and I would stand it up on end and I'll
just use that as my punching bag.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
And I was like, man, I could do this. And
I ended up.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Having a breakup with my girlfriend at the time, and
I went on my Facebook to go delete it, deactivate,
and I was like I'm like over everything. And then
I see this gym had a fight team trial and
I was like, wow, that was the first thing I
seen when I.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Opened the app. I was like that's crazy. I was
like I gotta go. I was like that's a sign.
I was like my assign from God. I like to go.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
So I went made the team and I've been fighting
since wow age seventeen eighteen. I was eighteen, I believe.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Think about it. If the ad doesn't pop up on
your phone.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I would have never went. I would have never known
about it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's back to where you say everything happens for a
reason and it kind of just God kind of just
guides you through every step of the way. And but
going in back to fighting, when you took your first
amateur fight, was that like it become real quick.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Yeah, you know, it's actually funny because my very first
fight I lost. You know how many people? Yeah, I
lost my first fight. They threw me my first fight
after like three months of training. But like I instantly
fell in love with the feeling because I hadn't felt
anything like that.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
It was.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
It was an amazing experience. Like I loved being around
people that cared about me after and just going out
there and trying to perform it just felt good, you know.
Like I just I got out grappled, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Like the kid was my buddy, actually my friend now
Jacob Rosalez. Yeah, so it was.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Against him and I threw a head kick boom, almost
almost put him out, and then he just he was
like state champ wrestler and just wrestled me.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah. It was.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
It was an amazing experience, you know, And I always
tell people like, that's another burn moment, you know, lost
my first fight, didn't let it hinder me, and I
kept at it.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeahs shure, you see it. A lot of people lose
their first fighting like oh, I'm done with this, especially
in amateurs, just like I'm not good enough. But sometimes
you just gotta.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
How many amateur fights did you end up doing? I did.
I was six and two in m m A and
I did two multi fights. How's the multi fights? It
was fun, you know, it was Yeah, it was it
was cool, it was it was an experience. It was
just I don't know, it's just fine.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Seems so fast faced muy THI.

Speaker 4 (12:30):

Speaker 5 (12:31):
My first multi fight, it was just just go, go, go,
go go. It was crazy. Yeah, second one, I kind
of just cruised and chilled. Uh, I don't know what
I'm doing now. You didn't have to worry about the wrestling,
yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:44):

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, that was a big game changer.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Do you think you would ever do another multi fight
laid down the road?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
No, No, probably not. They'd have to pay me a
lot of money.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah, I don't don't have any I don't have
any ambition to go do that, you know what I mean? Like,
I want to continue to enjoy fighting for the UFC
and get that title and I'll be chilling.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Sure that's good.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
So now that you were a professional or returned professional
after amateur, then you got onto Dana White's Contender series.
Talk about that moment. I know it's kind of a
really crappy ending, but talk about what was it like
fighting on Dana White Contender Series.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Man, it was crazy because I was I just started
working at UPS, maybe like a couple couple of months,
like a month before that before I got the call,
and I told them like, hey, I got this opportunity
for this fight, blah blah blah. I kind of like
like if I leave, like can I ever come back?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
And they're like, nah, if you leave, you're done. I
was like, all right, I gotta go. So yeah, I
just I just.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Knew that was my opportunity and I knew I would
be in the UFC soon after that fight. So I
left that job. I want to fight, but I didn't
get the contract. So you know, it was an amazing
experience though, it's like I my whole life, you know,
you guys look back and see like all the risks
I took and everything that, you know, I wasn't sure

you know, the outcome, but I have faith about it,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
So and it all turned out. Well.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Did you feel like quitting in the moment after what happened,
just like you know what, like this is gonna be
a long road to get back here.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, not at all.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
I think the only time I ever really, there's only
been like two moments where.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I felt like like I would quit or like give up.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, and it was when I had the injury, and
then it was I forgot who I fought and then
my colatures are looking at me like they're like shut up.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah. So yeah, those only two times. I think.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
The second time was like like I think I fought
Gamera and I was like a little upset, and they like.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
They're like shut up, like he did great? What are
you talking about?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I was like, well, yeah, you're right, we were at
that fight too, the Gamera fight. Oh yeah, we thought
you won.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, I think the whole world that you want, I
think I wanted to.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
I looked back and watched that one, and I definitely
like I got control, damage, you know what I mean,
Like aggression, I went on those in those categories, like
he did get the more he got, he got more
grappling control. I give him that, but he didn't do
anything with it.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, so it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's the hard part with judging in the UFC. It's like,
what what really is the number one thing? Is it
damage or is it wrestling? And I think it varies
from judge to judge. Yeah, which is tough, but it's
cool to see your wrestling from your first amateur fight
to getting that wrestled to arguably one of the best
grapplers in the entire UFC and you stood your ground
in a fight that we both thought you really won.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Thank you, you know. And that's that's another thing I
wanted to see too.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
I wanted to see where my grappling would stand against
one of the elites, you know what I mean, like,
because that's literally what I have to face going up
in the top five is.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Just the really tough, high level grapplers.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
You know, besides like the like the the older dudes
that are still banging it out, like you know, Gay
Cheoier you know, OLIVERI is a high level grappler, Benil
is armand and is on.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
They're super high level grapplers, you know for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
But who do you who do you want next?

Speaker 5 (16:21):
I should say, Man, I'm not big on I'm not
big on calling people out, you know, like I'm gonna
end up fighting everybody, you know what I mean, Like,
I just keep it respectful, Like I would like to
share that gon with with Banilla dea rush.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
That would be that would be fun. But you know,
if it.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Doesn't happen, I don't you know, there's no doesn't bother me,
you know what I mean, Like, I'm not, Oh, I
gotta fight this guy?

Speaker 4 (16:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, and God signing Amen, exactly all right, Gentleen, It's
time to go to you and burn. It stands for unfortunate.
Just like I mentioned at the beginning of this podcast,
I was unfortunately and severely burned in the school science
experiment by my teacher that went horribly wrong. Blew up
like a bomb in my face, and I was immediately

rushed to ICU, where I spent a week. There had
seven surgeries with a fifty percent chance to survive because
with burns the swelling gets so bad around my neck
that they're worried about my breathing stopping and hearing that
as a thirteen year old kid, you're like, whoa, you
don't want to lose your life, like you have such
a long life to live for. And whenever I was

in the hospital, I was like, what's the one thing
in my life that brings me joy? And it was golf.
So I had my dad go get my golf pighter
and I put ball after ball after ball into this
little glass jar. And I truly believe if that burn
moment doesn't happen in the hospital, I'm not alive. I
don't have this podcast, nor am I talking to Jalen Turner,

number nine lightweight rank fighter in the UFC. So give
God credit to keeping me a life.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Still, yeah, that's hard because like we're people if they
like we grew up going to Christian schools and I
know you are, but like in that time, especially for me,
like that's my little brother.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Like as bad as it is to say.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Like there's so many bad people in this world, like
this is a twelve year old kid, so pure, like
still so young, so like why but honestly, I feel
like that was God like testing us and testing our
faith for him is like, no, you you have no
idea what's coming for you in the next couple of years.
And now we have a podcast, but for you in
your life. You talked about the burn moments of all
these injuries that you've faced even since being a little

kid to now. But are there any other unfortunate burn
moments that you had to overcome.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
I actually have to give give a little credit to
my sports psychiatrist, because here's something a little bit unfortunate.
I would say, before or after I fought Dan Hooker,
I've seen him in the hospital and I was really
like I was just caught off guard, like without much
of damage I put on him, you know, And it

made me feel bad, like because that's when I was
really like like amplifying in my faith and to see
him like that and like think and to think that
I was like, you know, I was going to go.
I literally went home to my family like the next day,
like he had to stay in the hospital and have
surgery and stuff like. It made me feel bad, you know,
And talking to my psychiatrists actually helped me a lot,

like mentally getting over that hurdle.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
You know, it's.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Like, yeah, that happened, but also like we signed up
for it, you know, like that's part of our job,
it's part of our job description, and like that's not
that wasn't my intention in my heart. My intention is
to win by like whatever means. But also I didn't
do it with any malice in my heart. So I
had like a little bit of conflict feeling that I
guess that's something unfortunate, but you know, they just made

me stronger, and talking to my psychiatrists helped me so much.
He explains to me not to dwell in the past mentally,
because that'll bring on depression. Not to dwell on the
future because I'll bring anxiety. And the best thing to
do is to sit and stay in the present, in
the moment much as you possibly can, doing things mindfully,

working on your focus, understanding that your focus is going
to be lost, but you have to pull it back
as quickly as you can. That's the difference. That's the
difference maker mentally with things, especially in sports. And yeah,
like hearing that and talking to him for the last
few months. Ever since that that Dan Hooker, I started
talking to maybe like a week later, Like my mindset

has just been on a completely new level.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
And it feels good that Dan Hooker fight was the
burn moment right there, and looking back on your last fight, damn,
it's kind of crazy because whenever that happened to me,
I never once ever got mad at God that that
happened to me. Other people probably were like why him,
Like he's the nicest kid ever and all this stuff,

but never once and then kind of like you just
find the silver blining and all these things. I actually
made a foundation out of it where I install putting
greens at hospital to give people what I didn't have
the ability to do, just go outside, get fresh air.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
But see, and that's that's what I cling on to,
is those those moments because yes, it's unfortunate, but look
at all the fortunate that happened after, you know, like
we're having this podcast, we're having this conversation, like you're
making foundations. Like that's beautiful, you know what I mean,
Like I'd rather much more give my mind attention.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
To that than the negative that happened in order to
get to that.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
What are some things that obviously you could tell people
out there, but us too, Like how do you keep
such a positive mindset because it's hard. There's no lie,
Like you're gonna go through hard stuff in life, but like,
what's some things that you kind of just lean on
to help you stay positive?

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Man, Just realizing and understanding that bad things are gonna happen.
You're going to not always have a positive mindset. You know,
it's human for us to have doubts and have negative thoughts,
like it's normal. None of us are ever going to
be perfect, Like we're not Jesus Christ. So that's the
only perfect, perfect being to ever walk this planet. And

that's what gives me a lot of faith and positivity
now and just reassurance that I'm doing the right thing,
you know. So man, like I said, it is a mindset.
You know, you have to train it. You have to
go through a lot of things. And honestly, every time
I go through something negative, I'm always like right away,
I'm like, Okay, something is going to happen out of this,

and it usually does, you know, Yeah, yeah, that's that's
That's been my whole life, you know what I mean,
Like I just look back in my life and I
can attest to all these things because like like I
was explaining, like everything negative that happened had a good
impact after, So it's like, Okay, It's like when you
recognize a pattern of your life and how God works

and speaks to you, and then you have faith and
you don't worry about things as much.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know, it just makes everything more easy going and
laid back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Sure, it's easy to get in your own head too,
like those thoughts, and you just keep digging yourself, digging up,
digging yourself. That's one thing I've tried doing really recently
is just trying to have a positive, positive mindset. Because
you can sit there and dwell on the negatives, but
what is that really gonna do? Like for you, how's
that gonna help you go forward? How's that going to
help you overcome your burn moment or whatever's going on
in your life? And it's hard, But that's also fascinated

asking you because you have such a positive mindset and
you can just feel it when you come in the room.
You always smile and you're always happy, You're always like
you just have a cool vibe and like a positive vibe.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
So I was really interested in that. Honestly, there's so
much more that you know, what I'm gonna be I'm
gonna be vulnerable for for this podcast for you guys.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
So there was so much more that happened before that
fight that I really haven't talked about like publicly, and
like I really don't care what people have to say.
So I had some that's some turmoil with my coaches
before that fight, and one of my coaches and I had,

uh turmoil, I want to I want to say turmoil,
but you know, something personally happened with someone that I
could really cared about, and and uh, you know, it
kind of messed me up before the fight mentally, and.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You know, it was hard to deal with.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
And then having all that happened with my coaches simultaneousy
during like during the week, like it messed me up
so much. Like like mentally I was I really wasn't
there and I was just like in a whole nother world.
But I knew I had to still do my job
because I've been through that before, so that experience kind
of kind of helped me previously. But yeah, one of

my coaches but kept kind of like pulling me away
from the other one because I did like some training
with him and like in.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Another another country whatever, and you know, I.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Just kept feeling like this pushing pull, like there was
no connection during my fight week. And if you're a
fighter and you know, like fight week is like sacred,
like that's like holy time, like you don't mess with
that time, you know, And to go through that and
feel that I got that point was just so hard.
I was like dang, like really, like this happened. That happened,
And you know, when I look back at it and

I watched my performance, I'm like, dang, Like I'm proud
of the way I performed because if people knew the
half of it, they'd be like, wow, like that throwing
me off mentally too, you know, So you know, yeah,
that was that was That's what also amplified me feeling
bad for Dan after too, is all of that that
went on.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
You know, it was so much turmoil mentally for.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Me, And yeah, it was a big shift, and I
grew so much from that, Like I grew like leaps
and bounds just from going through all of that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
So wow, yeah, you would have never guessed it watching
your performance, right, that speaks volume of like the years
and years of like how you talked about just like
getting your mind right prepared you for that for that
fight week, It's amazing. Yeah, that stuff it was it

was like, did you have any kind of second guessing,
I guess of taking that fight while having all this
outside stuff going on between your coaches.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
No, because all that happened fight week, I thought everything
was pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
But I did feel the disconnect before the fight. But
to see the actions behind it, because you know, like
usually people come put their face on and like put
everything aside for you because they know, like their sole
purpose for you fight week is to make sure you
are successful. And to go through an experience where that
wasn't the case with someone that I was close to

for so long as it was kind of like, you know,
it's like hard to deal with because like man, like
like we're all in this together at this point, you
know what I mean, Like we're trying, We're all we
all have the same objective. We're all trying to get
a victory because we're all doing a job. You know,
it's a business at the end of the day, too,
so you have to look at it that way. You know,
it was a bad business, you know, and it hurts,

you know, because I'm one I'm a person that I
can't just train with anybody or any culture or whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Like I'm really big on connection.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Like if we don't connect, like if you don't bring
good energy to me spiritually, whatever, I can't even work
with that. I don't care how good of a culch
you are, you know. So I guess deeper than just
surface level for me. So that was hard to deal with.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
How'd you even manage to deal with all that stuff?

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Man, I'll say, true, I just I just put it
all to the side, you know, I just you know,
I had kids to feed, you know, I just yeah,
I don't know, I just I just went in there
and just went on autopilot. I don't know, you know,
I'll glory to God forgive me strength to do.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
That, you know. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah, everything that I went through previously, I guess it
just prepared me for that moment. And then, yeah, you
know it's crazy, is I talked about this?

Speaker 4 (27:56):

Speaker 5 (27:58):
I thought Dan, Dan was getting ready to fight Dan
was getting ready to fight Bobby Green. Dan had to
pull out because the injuries that I did to him.
I step in and fight Bobby Green and I get
to victory. I thought that was so crazy. I thought
that was like literally, like just a significance of God's work,

you know, because what are the odds I miss?

Speaker 4 (28:26):

Speaker 5 (28:26):
When I fight Dan, he pulls out from injuries that
like I gave him that he sustained fighting me. You know,
he got my twenty percent of my purse. I come back,
I take the fight short notice, I get a performance bonus,
and I make the most money.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I've ever made in my career.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
I was like, wow, Like that's that was I don't know,
Like I just can only be grateful to.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
God for all that, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
So it's like you said, there's always something good coming
after something always bad that happens. But you mentioned you
do have two kids, right yeah, boy and girl?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Right boy and a girl? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
How I was having them in your life changed you?
Like fighting?

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Man, I didn't show when I had my daughter. That's
when I went on my fight my wind streak.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
That's why I didn't lose for a while until those
two controversial losses. Still haven't lost a while. Man.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
They're just it's different when you have something that you're
working towards providing for, you know, it just added a
boost for me. And I have my kids young too,
Like I had my son when I was twenty two,
so I was going through you know, still getting to
the process of making it to the UFC, working overnight jobs.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
You know, I went through so much. And yeah, they
motivate me.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
You know.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
They bring me joy, they bring me peace, they bring
me happiness, bring me chaos, they bring me a little
bit of everything. You know, it's all patience, Yeah, patience
most definitely. They just made me a better man. You know,
having kids definitely made me a better man. And I
appreciate them. I've always wanted kids, you know, definitely really
family oriented, especially with my little ones, you know, like
I love them to death. So yeah, it's just made

me better. You know, puts a smile on my face.
They're my little blessings for sure. You bring him around
the gym a little bit, Yeah, all the times.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
So when I have them, they go to they go
with me everywhere. You know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Do you want them to fight one day or no?

Speaker 5 (30:21):
I don't want them to fight, but I want them
to learn how to fight, yea. Yeah, just self defense reasons.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Especially the world now you gotta have some sort of
mixed martial arts or anything. I guess I would say
I kind of grew up doing jito, but he mostly.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, I grew up to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
So my dad was actually on the Olympic team. So
we were born in Colorado Springs and unfortunately he broke
his leg a couple of weeks before the nineteen ninety
six Games Burn moment, but after that kind of prepared
their life. But again just like self defense and knowing
how to protect yourself. Like pre said, this society now
it's crazy, but do they kind of have an itch

Ford a little bit? Like do they like like rolling
around on the mats and the dummies and stuff.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, my son loves it. He definitely, He definitely wants
to wrestle and grapple and punchs who are always messing around,
Like he loves it.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Every time he's he trying to like punch That was fun,
easy man.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
And he punched me the other day in the stomach
and I usually can take a body shop, but he.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Hit me really. I was like, I was like, dude,
you're hitting hard. You can't hit me no more. How
old is he now? Six six? What's the names? The
jj ye all the same initials J J T that face.

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Speaker 3 (32:37):
All right, Dylan, It's time to go to the next
letter and burn. It sends for our ours. Ridiculous. So
all these fights, all these training camps, all these interviews,
everything that you've ever done in your life, was there
kind of a ridiculous burn moment that you went through,
Like maybe a fan asked you some crazy question, maybe
you got some random DM like was there kind of

like a funny ridiculous seeing that happened to you.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Funny ridiculous. There's been some ridiculous things, for sure. I
think the funniest one would probably be this lady asked
me to sign her breasts and I said, no, I'm
not doing that. I apologize, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Was this recently? No, this was years ago, years ago.
I don't even remember how long ago that was. But yeah,
I was like, no, I can't do that. Sorry. Yeah.
Did she just come up kind of randomly? It was
like Dayleen Jayleen, not even a meeting Greek or anything, No,
just random. I did it after our fault actually was yeah,
m hm.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Was this in New York stair way?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Before this was? I think I was like King of
the Cage before? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:44):
I thought it Citizens Bank Arena in Ontario. Yep, Wow,
my I E Folks is funny.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, yes, the Inland Empire. That's crazy. That's kind of
like should have a movie though, straight out of movie kind.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Of that's awkward though if you're like, uh, were there
a bunch of people there too?

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, it was like I was like postfight like with
like poor people, and she's like I'm just taking picture
with a bunch of people, and then when she comes up,
oh like takes a picture of me, and she's like, oh,
can you use the time? And I was like no,
I think I end up signing her arm or something.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, that's crazy. Any other ridiculous fans, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
No, honestly, they're usually pretty respectful and cool, you know,
nothing too crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah that's good though. I don't think fans could be
crazy something. Definitely. I don't think I attracted crazy though,
So that's good.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
But I j then I do got to ask, what
was it like making your UFC debut on one of
the biggest cards and the UFC ever you know, Connor McGregor, and.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It it was weird because when I went out, when
I walked out for that fight, I did not feel
nerves really yep.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
I was so calm. I felt like I was gonna
go spar Yeah. It was weird, but yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Mean they've seen me perform on that card, and then
you know, I just kept getting put on big cards
and yeah, I'm used to it.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
I like the pressure, I like the lights. I'm always
going to go out there and perform. I'm always going
to go out there because my style wasn't interesting, you know,
like I'm primarily a striker and I don't try to
do anything boring.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
So yeah, they put me on the big shows, the
big cards.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
And you can do some jiu jitsu too. Brown belt, Yeah,
the black belt coming soon.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
No, no, no, I don't. I don't think so. I haven't.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
I've been training the ghee in so long, I don't.
I don't even remember the last time I training the
g I used to hate jiu jitsu. Jiu jitsu was
I almost didn't do an because of jiu jitsu. I'm
such a visual learner and was so kinetic for me,
like hands on, Like I would just get caught in
like the dumbest things, and I'd be like, it's been months,
I almost still getting caught in this, you know, and

it's just like, yeah, it frustrated.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Me, but I kept that it.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
There you go. Now you're a brown button. So do
you train train mostly no gi?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah? Mostly no gi?

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Mostly like MMA, like MMA grappling. I transitioned away from
jiu jitsu for a little bit, you know, just because
certain styles of the people in my division are you know,
more wrestling based, so yeah, you know, I follt jiu
jitsu guys. I don't really worry about the jiu jitsu guys.
You know, it's more about like the wrestling, the smashing

past the ground of pound dudes that, you know. So
I just put my energy towards that. So you shifted
mostly towards wrestling based. Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
The whole top six of that division's all wrestling based
exactly outside of like Poorier seeing really.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Pooria to some degree has some decent wrestling. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I feel like the UFC nowadays is you have to
be a mixed martial artist. There's no other It's not
like striker versus BJJ. It's not rest vers like everyone
is good at everything. And to be elite in this
in this freaking company, like you gotta be.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
You gotta have everything, especially to be ranked too, and
especially the lightweight division.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
God, I think it's the best division in UFC for sure.
It has to be toughest division too, for sure. How
tough was breaking the top ten? Do you pay attention
to Rakings at all there?

Speaker 4 (37:34):

Speaker 1 (37:35):

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Now I do. Now I pay attention.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
You know.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
It's like, you know, when I fought Brad, I cracked
the top fifteen, and then then I fought who to
fight after camera camera, and then but I just kept
floating because people were like shifting in and out. And
then I fought Gamera, and then I fought Dan, and
then I just fought Bobby and Bobby. I don't know
where Bobby was, but he was up there too. I
think he was like twelve, thirteen, you know, and he

was Yeah, I was twelve, he was thirteen.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
So you know, now you're up at nine. Yeah, so
it's just how it goes. Did you ever think you
would be in the spot? Always a goal? Always?

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Yeah, yeah, I'm still not where I want to be,
but you know, just in due time. Yeah, I'm in
no rush anymore.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
I used to be in a rush, chilling.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, whatever happens happened, what danon Hunter, figure.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
It out exactly, I'll be ready.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
What do you mean you're in a rush just to
get to the top or like rushing to the next
fight or rushing to the next camp, Like what were
you rushing about?

Speaker 4 (38:33):

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Like, it's just like my whole career is like a
rush to get to the UFC. And then when I
got to the UFC, like I was still in the
rush like get to the top, how these big fights.
And then when I had that injury and I had
to sit my butt down, I was like, all right,
I'm chilling. So I've been chilling since because, like I noticed,
the more time I took off and just train and
just grew, the better I would perform when I came back.

You know, like look at the difference from the Den
Hooker fight to the Bobby Green fight, Like I looked
so much sharper.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
And it's just because I got time to develop. So
give me all the time to develop, y'all, won't.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, just like you sit down and just keep learning
and learning, learning, because you're you're really still baby kind
of into this.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah. Yeah, dude, I'll be twenty nine this year. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Wow, And you started at sixteen, maybe like seventeen eighteen.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Yeah, when you're trying pro showed like they're like, dang,
like six seven years ago. Okay, so it's been six years.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, I've been in the UFC, Like I think this
this year will be my sixty year. Wow. Twenty eighteen,
eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
So in the same year you went pro, you were
in the UFC too. You got signed to the UFC
or the year after. I think like the year after
the year after.

Speaker 4 (39:52):

Speaker 5 (39:53):
So when I started this, I gave myself a four
year goal. I was like, so I didn't go to college.
I was like, this is my four year plan. I'm
gonna give this on my all for four years. See
how far I get. If I fight in a great
promotion by the fourth year, then I'm on the right path.
So I ended up fighting in Bellator like right before,
like I hit like like mid fourth year, and then
I fought for them again the next year and then

got into got into the Contender Series, you know. But
once I fought for Belaitor, I was like, all right,
I'm here, I'm on the right path, Like this is
where I need to be.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
So yeah, I kept at it was.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
The goal always to get to the UFC.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, you know, I I kind of I kind of
got upset with Belaitor because they said they're going to
sign me and they didn't. But yeah, but I end
up getting to the UFC because UFC was definitely always
my like my mindset and my goal the UFC champion.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So yeah, and see how much it's the sport has
grown in six years. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Oh yeah, there's dude. I look at the people like
in the back of the division. I'm like, you guys
are good bro.

Speaker 7 (40:53):

Speaker 4 (40:53):

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, it's crazy just to see everyone grow and grow
and grow and grow, and to see you go and
go just from fight to fight, Yeah, trying to Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (41:06):

Speaker 3 (41:07):
So all right, Jen, it's time to go to the
next letter. It is and it's kind of two parts,
it's now and next. So what are some moments you're
kind of going through?

Speaker 2 (41:15):

Speaker 4 (41:15):
What are some moments that you see coming in the future?
Top five, fight next?

Speaker 1 (41:20):

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah, top five? Okay, I would say top five either
this year or later this year and then title fight coming,
so maybe like maybe later next year possibly and then
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Yeah. True, that's it. And I don't know. I don't
know about negatives.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I don't I don't look forward to I don't look
at those.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Yeah, you know, like if it happens, it happens, and
we just deal with it.

Speaker 4 (41:44):

Speaker 2 (41:45):
For sure, you're working on any projects or I need to.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I need to.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I need to like venture out and spread my wings,
spread my my tarentula legs.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Like what what what interests you side skateboarding and fighting.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Skateboarding, animals and fighting. That's all I really know, you know,
So I mean I don't know anything else anything else,
Like I just I just want to start monetizing outside
of just fighting. You know, sponsorships are cool and everything,
but I really want to start building more lucrative like
business ideas and aspects, you know, and just investments in

that way. So ye, just continue to make the income
grow and you know, bless others.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah for sure, make make a cool energy drink called
the Tarantula.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
That'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's not that.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Brat, that'd be dope.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Or I mean, you have a mind for the game,
So why not start like breaking down fights and go
on that route.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Because because I'm too I'm too humor.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Of a guy and humble of a guy, Like I
don't want to like I wouldn't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Like I get it, we're in the fight game, but
like you know, like I don't want to be that.
I don't want to be that guy, you know what
I mean? Like this is not me, Like I would
love to be an analyst. I will analyze something, but
like to.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Pick between two people, especially if I know one of
them like I'm already I'm already be biased at that point,
so not I wouldn't say biased, I will. I will
be trying to save somebody's feelings with the words.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
That I say. Yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, going to more brand, Yeah, clothing or something?

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Come up with you on shoe? Yeah, you know, something crazy,
something like that.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
I bought my first pair of Jordans like four years ago. Yeah,
my first pair ever. I was ever really big into
shoes growing up. I used to just skateboard.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
I was into like I was wearing like the Kais
and and fall Ins and you know, like I was
never into the Jordan's, you know, so I'm into him.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Now things change. Do you skate in some some sbs
now sv dunks.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
And yeah, what do I skate at? I got a
pair of dcs. I had some fallings about my dogs
kept showing them up for some reason.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I don't know this. I guess the leather and the taste.
I've seen your dog videos on Instagram. What dog is it?

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Dang, I don't know if I want to put that
on it. I do have I have a burn moment.
I can reflect on one right now. Dang, that's intense.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
So only if you want to share.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Hey, we're on it.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
So I recently parted ways with my with my dog.
You know, he's he was a protector. He's a protection dog.
I've been traveling a lot, so I didn't have like
a lot a good outlet for him. So we hadn't
trained for a while. I take him, I take him
with me, you know, he's in the car or just cruising.
And I had got done like like having like dinner

with my mom, and he's in the car like protecting,
like protecting the cars, like barking at some people. So
I like egg him on to tell him his command,
and he like like starts going crazy, you know, as
he's supposed to.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I get in the car, you know, and he's still
like kind of barking, and he snaps at me, and
I got a little scar on my lip.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
This was recent a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I
get him to my buddy. My buddy's a professional dog trainer.
It wasn't anything like he didn't try to hurt me,
you know what I mean, Like he just he just
snapped at my face.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
You know. I was like, he's like super.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Antsy, you know, he didn't know what was going on,
and I was like, oh, okay, but it's just the
fact that it happened. I'm like, I don't you know
what I mean, Like I don't want to deal with that,
you know, just because later on down the line, I
would like to like branch into things like like other avenues,
you know, I don't know, acting some some like and
I can't have like, you know, my face is already

gonna be rough.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Enough, have any other scars.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Yeah, And I just felt like he needed more attention
to at the same time, because I've been out the
house for so long, you know, so yeah, everything.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Happens for me.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, Yeah, it's hard to focus on training your dog,
especially a dog of that species that needs a lot
of attention, and then fighting and your kids and other avenues. Now, yeah,
it all kind of worked out, yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Because he was an amazing dog, Like that dog is
one of the top dogs around for sure, and you know,
it is what it is. And I think, like, I
think it had to happen that way because I probably
wouldn't have let him go.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
He was that good of a dog. Was he your
only dog too?

Speaker 5 (46:42):
No, I had I had his nephew. So I ended
up giving his nephew back to the breeder, you know,
because like I just didn't want to, you know what
I mean, I just didn't want to neglect my dog.
So I love my dogs to death, you know, so
you know, I just put them in better hands that
we're gonna like do better with them.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
So it is what it is. That was this recent
burn moment that hurt. That hurt, Like I dang near
shed tears, like I was like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
I had him sayce he was a little puppy.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
You build such an emotional connection to him, like our
little dog. We have a little Maltese and he's like
ten pounds, but like I love that dude to death,
like to see anything happen to him and stuff.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Yeah, dude, it's yeah, it's it's hard, but you know
he's he's taking care of my Buddy's taking great care
of him since the updates on him, Like he's happy.
Like I'm happy for them, you know what I mean. Like,
and he's gonna do more with him training wise than
I could have. So you know, like like I love
the dog game, all love the aspect. But yeah, it
is what it is. You know, I'm telling you, like
I've I'm just easy going late back there. I don't

you know, no ill will towards anything.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, you're always just chilling in one foot in front
of the other. But I do have to ask because
it's kind of surfacing the internet a little bit about
your last fight was the stoppage with Bobby Green is
what is your thoughts on that? Was it late or
you're in the moment, so it's hard for you to
kind of hold back, but what was your thoughts on it?

Speaker 5 (48:05):
It was very late, man, Like, honestly, I should have
I should have stopped, you know what I mean, Like,
I definitely should have stopped sooner. But a lot of
the punches were hitting his arm, you know, so I
wasn't thinking anything of it. And finally when I did
land clean, that's what put him out, like because everything

was really grazing him. Like it looked bad, but it
was really grazing his arm, you know. So when I
got a couple like by the ear, that's when he
you know. But it could have been to stop sooner,
you know, And I was just so hyped in the
zone and like I've even when I fought brock Weaver,
you know, I think Herb was my ref that fight.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
I dropped him.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
I was like, all right, he's done, like I know,
he didn't want to fight anymore. And I walked off
and then Herb's like, no, come back, like the fight's continuing,
like he let him up.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Im all right, let him up, let's go. You know.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
So from that experience as why I had that different
result with Bobby, I kept the fight going to the
ref told me to stop because that's a part of
my job. But also, you know, I do feel like, yeah,
I should have. I should have just looked up at
the ref like a little.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Bit like yo, bro, come on.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
But it's you know, we're humans, man, we're humans. We
all make mistakes. We cannot be perfect, like I said earlier,
And it is what it is. You know, Bobby got up,
he was healthy, he was okay, like we talked, We
talked about it like we're cool. There's no you know,
he's not not salty about anything. So that's that's that's
what makes me feel good about the situation.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yeah, so it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
There's no bad blood.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
It's it's hard because you're just in that zone, like
you're in that killer zone to be able to stop.
Like you see some people sim like, I don't know
how you do that, dude, I wasn't sure. Excuse me,
I wasn't sure about my shape. I knew I could
go like two good rounds.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
I was like, man, if it goes in that third
round and then Bobby's tough, So if he would have
like came back and then like you know, he has cardios,
I knew he was ready.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
He was getting ready for a five round fight, you know.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
So I was like, he he has the advantage in
the cardio aspects. So I was making sure like on
top of that, I had to finish the fight right
there if I had the opportunity too.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So what was it like taking a fight on a
week's notice?

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Man? It was crazy.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Like I said, if I hadn't been talking to my
psychiatrists and just you know, being mentally strong and fortified,
I don't know if I would have because honestly, I
turned the fight.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Down a couple of times before they finally got really yeah,
the same fight Bobby Green Austin. Yeah, I'll turned it down,
And one morning I was.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Like, I feel like this fight is going to happen.
Talk to my manager. And then they came back and
I was like, all right, I guess I gotta fight him,
you know, nine days and I did it, you know.
And another thing too with that, like I wanted to
show the world that I could make the weight, you
know what I mean, like because I missed wait before
and I knew everybody's like, oh, he's not gonna make
it this wait bully, blah blah blah. I was like,

I will make it a sign on the dotted line
if I wasn't gonna make it, So I did, and
that's what like, that was my victory, like my personal victory,
and then everything else was just like icing on the cake.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
And know, yeah, didn't you make one fifty five too? Right?

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I mean I did one fifty six sixty six.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Okay, I was gonna said that I'd have been the
nail on the coffin and like championship wait.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Then Honestly, if I have more time, I probably could have.
But they played me on the scale anyway, you know,
Like we did the pre check and I was one
one fifty fifty one fifty six and then we go
out and then they're like one fifty seven.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I was like, I was like what. I was like,
there's no way.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
And then we go back and then we step on
the scal so I'm like, yo, one fifty six right here.
Like then they had me go back out and I
was just like, there was this there was this mma.
I would let that like posted it right away, and
he left it up like I seen it after the fight.
He was like Jalen turning missus waiting no surprise here,
blah blah. I was like, broh, you're so lame. I
was like, you could have definitely deleted this by now,

Like you're a blame for that. But it is what
it is.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Is it hardest to not pay attention to that stuff,
especially you and being top ten now you get all
kinds of hate, and you know it's.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
You pay attention to it, you know, like you notice
a lot of the lot of the haters. But it's
just it's like, what what good is it going to
do for me to focus on it? It's like, all right, cool,
you got something to say, Like sometimes people are cool,
you know, and I'll reply something and like I was like,
I won't even throw a shot.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I'll just be like yo, like what are you talking about?
You know what I mean? It'll be cool.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Like some people just want attention, and then there's some
people that are just really just negative and just projecting
their emotions.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
And I'm just like, oh, all right, I tried. I'm
gonna leave you there. You got to reply.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Whatever, and you know it is what it is, you know,
It's just just I don't know, I couldn't. I couldn't
be that guy, you know what I mean, Like, I'm
not gonna sit here and talk a bunch of trash
on people like I got better things to do with
my time, you know, but I'm happy. So it's like, well,
am I going to go project negativity? And I could
go project happiness?

Speaker 3 (53:04):
So yeah, there's this quote I heard a long time ago.
I can't remember who said it, but it was like,
all the haters you have, the only reason they're hating
on you is because ninety nine point nine percent of
them would want to be you right in this second.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
I think that speaks a lot.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
They just it's like they're saying they hate you kids,
they ain't you, they do, And even for us it's hard.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
I mean you see people calling him soft and like.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
It's just like dude, like why why why why do
you feel the need to out of your day sit
on your phone and say that comment or say that
or like come on here.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
You know, it's a part of the game exactly.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
It is.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
You know, it's funny, Like like Sean Strickland, he always
calls me soft.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
I'm like, bro, it was like who I am, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Like the way I look at it, it's like, I'm
gonna be who I am, Like I'm not going to
sugarcoat anything for nobody. Like there's when I can be
you know, like harder, Like yeah, definitely, but it's like
it's not I'm not fake for transition, like being somebody else.
Like I'm not being somebody else. I'm just being how
I feel. So I think it's funny when people say that.

It's like people can be who they want and how
they are. But like, yeah, Sean Strickland, that's my homie.
He always talks crap about me for being soft, to
be a weird guy and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
But he does my boy though, So he's cool.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
He's funny. He's he's probably one of the most like
down to earth people. But he's also like just doesn't
give it you.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
He's funny.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
He's truthfully himself. Yeah, you go out there and train
with him, don't you? When he was out here in
California more? But now he's out Uh yeah, do you
think you go out there and train?

Speaker 4 (54:50):
I went.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
I went before the Asnia fight, but just one time,
like nothing crazy, So that was it.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Yeah, for the most part, you just like your norm
here in California. Yeah, but I think I think I'm
probably gonna leave California really. Yeah. Where you're going, I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
I mean, I mean I know about Yeah, I just
want to go train somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
You know. Yeah, it's clearly out out of state. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Yeah, so family's family's moving out of state too, so
it's gonna yeah, a lot of transitions coming.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Well, we're right behind you. We're going to Vegas too.

Speaker 7 (55:28):

Speaker 4 (55:28):
It's just like I feel like we kind of got
stagnant here in California. Yea.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Plus it's kind of just getting too expensive out here.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
So yeah, it's like I'm good.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah all right, Jaalen, Well you just felt burning your life,
So thank you so much for coming on the show.
Let the audience know where they can find you, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, everything.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Let them know Instagram, the Tarantula Twitter and Jalen Turner Facebook.
Jayalen Turner, I'm not really on Facebook that much, so
Instagram is the best bet.

Speaker 6 (55:58):

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, you heard the man, go give him some love.
And as a gift for coming on the podcast, Jalen,
you will be getting the black Label edition Burn Factory
hoodie and hat. Also you'll be getting the belt too.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Actually only guests, yeah have the black hoodies, So if
you see someone wearing the black hoody, they've been on
the Burn Factory. Got the Loud Report POWD. But that's
gonna do it. From this episode of The Burn Factory Podcast.
Like always like, comment and subscribe at the Burn Factory Podcast.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
And always please visit my foundation as well, The Priest
James Foundation dot org. Again the Priest James Foundation dot
org to understand why we call this the Burn Factory.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
We'll see you guys for the next episode. Peace.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
We're here with Jayleen Turner who just felt burn in
his life and he is now the Burn Factory Podcast
champion of many belts he's gonna have.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
But thank you so much, Shale.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
You coming our shows your inspiration to us and definitely
a lot of people out there, so we appreciate

Speaker 4 (57:09):
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