Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 31 2025 - Verdict with Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on Amazon today. Welcome everybody to the Friday Halloween edition
of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show play traveling today,
perhaps picking up a last minute costume. Take guesses as

(00:52):
to what he'll dress up as this year if he
does it all. But he'll be back with us on Monday.
So it is just me aka Buckster, leading you on
this legendary journey of politics, news, national security, cultural commentary,
all the great stuff that we're going to dive into.

(01:13):
Let's just give you a sense of where we're going.
We have Election Day on Tuesday coming up. In fact,
I just voted. I meant to have the little sticker
in my hand. I just voted for the Miami Beach mayor.
As you know from listening to Show, I'm a Miami
Beach resident, and governance here has been quite good. They

(01:36):
have done things that have made the streets cleaner and
safer and better. And I am very pleased with a
lot of the major decisions that have been made. So
I was a vote for mayor minor, and I am
hoping that he is able to continue. But I'm just
saying I voted. I know it's an off your election,

(01:56):
but that makes it so much easier too. I'm saying
this in part to also perhaps poke, I wouldn't say shame, poke, encourage, remind, gently, nudge.
Are wonderful Virginia and New Jersey and New York City

(02:17):
listeners to make sure where there's early voting, you're voting early.
And if you can't get there early, we'll at least
get there on the big day. Right. You gotta show
up to care if you cared off about what's gonna happen.
And I think that certainly in New Jersey, the latest

(02:39):
is that Chittarelli has made this a dead heat. It
is neck and neck with Cheryl there. Virginia is a
little bit, a little bit tougher, tougher sledding, a little
bit more challenging, but still you gotta show up. Jason
R is looking good for that Attorney General slot and
win some seers. Let's hope she can pull off a

(03:02):
little bit of an upset there, but she's only going
to do it a far. Virginia listeners, go out and
tell all their friends and tell everyone they know. Make
sure you get out there and vote. And then we
have talked a lot about New York City. I'll give
you some updates on the New York City mayor's race.
But it's not looking so good. It's not looking so good.
And also some of you have been writing in to

(03:22):
say that I sounded like I was from New York.
Suddenly when we interviewed Curtis Sliwa that I was. Was
I code switching back to New Yorker all of a sudden.
I mean, I at least it would be authentic in
so far as I am from New York City, born
and race, I didn't notice any difference. I'll have to
go back and listen to that. I did switch sometimes
when I was talking when I told Clay, but I

(03:44):
was switching on purpose to say he better watch out
in Benson. You know he better watch out When he
said fall rock away, Sheep said Bay Staten Island, particularly
central southern Staten Island. You know, I wouldn't say because
he was talking a little bit rough about Curtis Sleewa,
that's slee with territory. But yeah, you've never heard me
deal with a New York accent before. When I worked

(04:05):
at the NYPD, they tell me that I talked funny.
So there you go, because they all had New York
accents and I did not, So I can do it
though I could switch in and out. Now we have
those races, I'll give you those details. We also have
the shutdown continuing. I think Democrats are going to lose,
but they're getting into that desperate mode where the end

(04:28):
is nigh for them politically, and they're gonna throw anything
at the wall and see what sticks. They're gonna pull
anything out as they can, and then you we've got
some more Kamala Harris trying to rehab her political chances,
her future in politics, which I do not think is strong,
and I do not think is well. As you know,

(04:50):
Clay and I disagree on this one. I think she's
gonna have to just fade fade out, but she doesn't
want to. I will agree with anyone, including Clay, that
at Kamala Harris thinks she should have a role in
American politics going forward. It's ego driven, though it's not
based in the reality of her chances and the future

(05:11):
of the Democrat Party. So okay, let's first just get
a little bit into where we stand on this government shutdown.
First of all, I told you this is where things
could get really messy pretty fast, and that's when the
air traffic controllers and the pilots are saying, look, it's

(05:33):
going to be really rough for those who are trying
to get around the country, trying to fly when air
traffic controllers say enough is enough, and some of them
are going to start calling in sick, and there's going
to be shortages, people will be waiting. And I will
agree with you when you're at the airport and the
plane is there and there's not a cloud in the

(05:53):
sky and the whole country the weather is fine, and
you're told for staffing reasons. Your flight is maybe delayed
two or three hours, your flight is canceled. Perhaps that
is an enormously frustrating experience. Here is a montage of
the pilots and air traffic controllers. This is cut twelve

(06:13):
telling Democrats open up the government. Enough is enough.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
The biggest way to ensure the safety, security and reliability
of our air national.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Air traffic control system is to pass a clean continuing resolution.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
We are concerned that when our brothers and sisters in
TSA and air traffic control are not receiving paychecks, that
they're distracted, and that they erode on the margin of
safety that we rely on to go out and operate
our aircraft and do our job safely as well.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Every day that they go to work, they have not
only the weight of one of the most high consequence
jobs in the entire world. Now they're feeling, how do
I pay for my guess? How do I put food
on the table.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
No one should have to work without being paid.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Congress owes it to the American people to get this
thing done, get a clean cr done, and get the
government back.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Everyone knows the Vice President Congress is that this shutdown
needs to end now.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
It has to happen. Now.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
These guys need to convene, say yes to that clean
cr get this thing back on track, and again you
store that confidence in the American public as we.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Go into these very busy holiday seasons.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
The White House puts that out and I think it's
very well done. It's very straightforward Republicans. I'm not rooting
for the Republicans on this one because I'm a Republican.
It is the obvious, sane choice of the two sides here.
The Republicans were trying to keep the government funded and going.

(07:39):
Democrats are trying to do the impossible. It's not the
first time that Democrat policies involve squaring a circle, right,
not the first time. Like a man can be a woman,
and it's a woman, but it's also a man at
the same time. They do this with some frequency. But
in this case, they've shut the government down. They made

(07:59):
the choice, and they're turning to Republicans saying, why you
shut the government down? That is not okay. They did this.
We are all now working through this because of them.
But they are taking some very bad advice slash direction
from Chuck Schumer, from Jeffrey's and oh yes, this is

(08:22):
cut eleven Kamala Harris herself play it.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
We still have work to do to make America's health
care system deliver for all the people and not be
a function of how much money you have in your
back pocket. Right, and Democrats do come from that place
of believing that healthcare should be a right and not
just a privilege of those who can afford it. So
how do you get there? Well, part of how you

(08:46):
get there immediately on this issue of where we are
with the shutdown is to pull firm as they are doing.
Part of it has to be to continue to reform
the system.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
They don't reform. This is them. They have done one thing,
and that is make healthcare worse, make it more expensive,
make it more complicated. They have made it worse. That
is the only thing you can say about the Democrat
head in healthcare. Every promise that was made about Obama

(09:18):
Care has been broken. Everything about this bill, which was
a huge fight with Republicans back in the first term
of the Obama administration, everything about it was was either
just wrong or a lie. And now they're saying, well,
if we can't continue subsidies. The subsidies were put in
place during COVID, So now we have to continue at

(09:41):
that level. They are all these ways. What they're really
doing is hiding a massive wealth redistribution scheme and welfare
state under the rubric of healthcare. Trust me, they're not
trying to make your healthcare cheaper. Trust me. They aren't
trying to do what what would be needed to make

(10:02):
it easier for you to see a doctor. That's not
what they want to make it so that states like
California and New York will continue treating illegals. Thirty percent
of er visits in New York City illegal alien. So
we're essentially now the soup kitchen and the sick ward
for the whole world, seven billion people in counting. You
show up here, you get all this free stuff. And

(10:24):
by the way, the people who are actually here, who
have to work, create the productivity to create the wealth
that is then pillaged by these democrats in your name,
of course, but for their own purposes. Yeah, they don't
want to make that easier for you. They don't respect that.
In fact, if you don't pay them what they demand,
and it's never enough, if you don't give them more

(10:47):
of what you work to create, they'll use the resources
of the state to throw you in prison. But the illegals,
the people who are scamming the system, the people who
are entirely reliant on the system, they are the primary
constituency of the Democrat Party, which is a party of
takers using government force. That is the whole point. That

(11:10):
is the whole premise. Everything else to say about healthcare
is uh, lie, look at your premiums. It's all gotten
more expensive, it's all gotten worse. Yeah. Look, John Fetterman
not sure how much longer he's even going to be
a Democrat. He's out there saying that, I mean, this
is just appalling what Democrats are doing. And he said

(11:31):
it in a Fetterman way. This is cut thirteen. Listen
to his take on the government shutdown.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
For a Democrat, you know, we're not allowed to just
open this up. I mean, then our party has me
bigger problems than I thought we might have with people already.
It's like, that's not controversial.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
Pay everybody.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
And you have our workers here borrowed over a third
of a billion dollars to pay.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
Their own bills.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Like it's it's a failure. And like I said to
all of the viewers, I'm apologizing that we can't even
get our together and just open up our government.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Democrats are the ones if Fetterman's voted to keep it
open or to open it. Rather, Democrats are the ones
who have shut it down. They have decided that this
is the way it's going to go, and then they
turn around and say, why is it happening like this?
So I think we're going to see eventually a Democrat
cave on this issue, unless Republicans managed to snatch defeat

(12:39):
from the jaws of victory. That is always possible for Republicans.
There's always a chance here. Although I will say I
was pretty heartened by Senator Thun who is not usually
the guy you'd think leading the William Wallace style brave
heart charge for freedom, but he did seem pretty agitated

(13:00):
over what Democrats are doing here, because remember, they've chosen
to do this, but then they're lying about it. Democrats
have forced this shut down by making demands that have
nothing to do with specifically funding this government as it
is as it's supposed to be with a cr with
a continuing resolution. They want to hold the government's funding hostage.

(13:22):
But then they turn around and say it is the
Republicans who are shutting down the government. That is a lie.
And I do think that a majority of the American people,
at least those who are paying attention to this, see that.
I do believe that the Democrats are losing. And once
election day passes, come on, New Jersey, can I just

(13:43):
my New Jersey ins. Sometimes us New Yorkers we give
you a rough time. We treat you like the cousin
that perhaps gets a wedgie when we see you at
the holidays. But we love you New Jersey, we really do.
From a New Yorker to my New Jersey. Out there,
get out there and vote. You can have a good

(14:03):
governor who's going to end the sanctuary state status of
New Jersey, who's going to bring down the absurd taxes
that you pay. There's so much that will benefit you.
Get out there and actually do this. Get out there
and vote. And for those who say I already have, okay,
well tell other people. Remind I'm reminding friends here. I'm

(14:24):
in Miami Beach. I got friends who have forgotten that
there's a mayor's election happening.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm like, well, yeah, that's right, it's going on. We
live here and the decisions that have been made have
been really of major impact for us who live in
this area. So for any of my Miami Beach people listening,
get out there and vote. I mean I voted for
minor I highly recommend you do the same. But unless
you want things to turn into mayhem here again. I'll
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(14:53):
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
You just heard from our man Clay stuck in a
situation at the Chicago airport because of the shutdown. And
I am sure you know whenever you're in a messy
airport situation and they're not telling you exactly what it is,
that's bad sign, right, bad enough when they're like, well,

(16:57):
we've got some weather coming in whatever it is, when
you're just being oh, yeah, we don't know, man, you
might have to camp out here. Maybe time to get
that sleeping pad and unroll it, you know, maybe time
to take your sweatshirt, make it into a pillow and
lie on the ground. Don't worry. Chick fil A will
open at some point, you know. That's that's where things

(17:17):
are because of the government shutdown. Air traffic controllers are
very annoyed about this situation, as they well should be.
But I want to take you on a on a
journey of sorts into what may be the most self

(17:38):
defeating and self pitying book tour of all time. Certainly
high in the list, I know it is not, in fact,
Karen Jean Pierre Greene Jean Pierre, I think we all
get what's going on with that one, with that situation
of the book tour. She's an independent. Now you are
the press secretary for Joe Biden. Now you're independent. You've

(18:01):
left the Democrat You've left the Democrat Party because they
finally couldn't prop up your boss anymore, whom you cree
Jean Pierre were lying to the American people about you
cream Jean Pierre who said that it was a cheap
fake when people shared video of the president having cognitive

(18:22):
issues cognitive breakdown. Ukarie Jean Pierre now would lecture us
about how the Democrat Party abandoned him. Were they not
supposed to What exactly did she want them to do?
She doesn't even know, she doesn't know. Makes no sense.
But Kamala Harris, she's not just hoping to cash out

(18:45):
on a pretty weak book tour and do the speaking
circuit for a bit and then get some gig at MSNBC. No,
Kamala Harris does think that she should have a leadership
role in the Democrat Party and a leadership role for
the country. Kamala Harris wants to be make no mistake,
wants to be president of these United States. But she's

(19:09):
got a problem. She's Kamala Harris, same person that we
saw in this last election. It's not that we didn't
know what we were dealing with. It's not that the
American people weren't aware of Kamala Harris. It is in
fact that she has tremendous deficiencies. And here is John Stuart,

(19:32):
propagandist of the left John Stuart, as he is talking
to Kambo, this is cut four about whether Biden was
competent to serve or not. Listen to this exchange part
of the book to our play for.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
I believe he was fully competent to serve.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do you really?

Speaker 11 (19:52):
I do?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
That surprises me.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
Actually, no, I do. But there's a distinction to be
made between running for and being president.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
What's the distinction, Well.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Being a candidate for president of the United States is
about being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having
tomatoes thrown at you every step you take.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
That sounds lovely.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Yeah, it's more than a notion.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Get involved in public service, ladies and.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Gentlemen, and to be the seated president, the sitting president
while doing that, it's a lot. It's a lot.

Speaker 11 (20:28):
Yeah, it's I think it's a hard case to make
for people that he didn't have the stamina to run,
but he had the stamina to govern, because I think
most people view the presidency as a marathon run at
a sprint with tomatoes being thrown at you. In terms
of governance.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
John Stewart way too gentle. He's a propagandist, way too
gentle with commalades. This is moronic. I mean, this is
just insulting to the intelligence of everybody's watching. Oh, Joe Biden,
It's okay for him to be commander in chief. It's
okay for him to be the one who would be

(21:05):
responding to a possible attack on the United States, an
act of war, making decisions that affect hundreds of millions
of Americans and billions of people around the world. He
had plenty of gas in the tank for that. But
to show up, remember he's being ferried by Air Force one,

(21:27):
I mean, to show up to give some speeches. He
took it all the way to June, my friends. So
we're to believe that his cognitive ability, his mental faculties
weren't strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee
from June to November, but they were strong enough for

(21:50):
him to be president president in June and therefore in
twenty twenty twenty five as well, because right, what would
be the only thing that he wasn't able to do?
According to Kamala, who's an absurd person? Absurd John Stewart

(22:12):
not the tough case. Yeah, please, it's idiotic, John, and
you know it where is the difference. He's president in
June of twenty four. He's fine to do that. He's
gonna be fine then to be president in January of
twenty five. But it's the whole campaigning thing in between
that he can't handle. That was the part of it

(22:35):
that he wasn't up for. And let me remind you
that's an energy issue, not a cognition issue. What we
saw at the debate with Joe Biden and Donald Trump
with somebody who has some stage or some level of dementia,
which means that his brain is not functioning, his decision

(22:57):
making is not functioning as it should, which we also
know because he had outsourced his presidency to the advisors
around him. All of this adds up. But Kamala is
out there trying to say, oh, the problem wasn't Joe
Biden's ability to think. It was he needed more nap

(23:21):
time to get through the campaign. You know, it's just
not going to work. We're not all that dumb. We
know what they did, we know the big lies they
all told, and they're trying to in some way, they're
trying to push away that humiliation, that that stink of

(23:41):
being so utterly mendacious, but this is what happened. They
lied to the American people about it. And one of
the big problems they have is the person who should
be best positioned to take back leadership for the Democrats,
the former vice president, the former Kamala Harris, is completely

(24:04):
tainted by her relationship to the lie about Joe Biden.
And then we get to well, also, Kamala, why is
it that the American people, I mean, you lost every
swing state to Trump. People know who you are, You're
the vice president. Why weren't you able to do it?

(24:25):
John Stewart continuing on, Like I said, he's being as
friendly and gentle to Kamala as he can be, but
he doesn't want to just look like a total clown
buffoon himself. Here he is. This has cut six. Why
do you lose, Kamala? Here's her explanation. Listen to it.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
I do believe one of the biggest factors that was
at play in one hundred and seven days we just
didn't have enough time. We didn't have enough.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Time or was it too much time?

Speaker 11 (24:48):
I mean, if you had done the election after sixty days,
I think you went Honestly, there was a there seemed
like a stagnation point, and then if you look at
the lines, it doesn't look like what would have changed.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
Well, yeah, but there's so many variables that went into
the outcome of that race. Because you can also look
at where you started to see an infusion of resources
going into missing disinformation. I talk about, for example, the
Elon Musk factor in the book. You can look at
that there were certain inflection points that had an impact

(25:25):
on the race. And to your point, it was, as
David Pluff said, it was those those traditional inflection points,
and there were others. So I don't want to reduce
what we need to do going forward to any one
factor around what we could have done better, what I
could have done better in those one hundred and seven days,
what was happening before. I think there are multitude of

(25:47):
factors that all need to be addressed.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Misinformation and disinformation. She's really going to go there, she's
gonna do She's gonna pull that one.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
Now.

Speaker 12 (25:57):
Oh, it's because of the misinformation and the disinformation. That's
why she lost. And she didn't lose by a little bit.
I understand the aggregate vote total. You can say, but
that's not the election. That's one it's Electoral College, and
she lost every possible swing state entirely to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Everyone. He was indicted four times by the sham deep
state loser prosecutors. He survived a bullet through his ear,
another assassination attempt, the entirety of the legacy media throwing
all of their credibility in one giant bonfire in an
effort to stop Trump. And she got absolutely crushed by

(26:38):
him in this election. And she takes you'll notice, no
accountability for it. Have you heard her say anything like
you know, I made a mistake. I read her book,
by the Way, which was written for her by other people.
Have you heard her say that I made a huge
error about anything? No? Did she learn anything from this process? No,

(27:02):
it's always someone else's fault. It's always things outside her control.
It's sexism or racism, or Trump is a more disinformation
or misinformation or what about Kamma. You're just not very
good at this. And you were able to ride a
wave of DEI in the Democrat Party that was willing

(27:26):
to push people through the very heights of power based
upon elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color or ethnicity,
and that the American people have decided that we've had
enough of that and that we should all we should
just judge people by who they are, man or woman,

(27:48):
any race. What are your capabilities, what's your skill set?
What do you bring to the table. Bringing diversity to
the table is not meaningful to people who care about
those other things. This is the big change, and this
is the world that Kamala does not want to be operating.
And I might add one in which you were held

(28:10):
accountable and responsible for what you do as a person,
your decisions, your abilities, your work ethic. Kamala wants to
whine about how she's a victim. She's the former vice
president of the United States, was handed handed the Democrat nomination,
which a lot of Democrats didn't want to do, and

(28:33):
now she complains about it and everybody else I read
her book, everybody else makes mistakes, everybody else may did
the dumb things. She doesn't say never mind, I'm sorry.
She doesn't say I'll do better next time in any
meaningful way, or I'll change Remember what she said about Biden.
Would you change anything that Biden? No, because she just

(28:54):
thinks she's supposed to win for showing up. The people
in charge are supposed to tell tell her how great
she is and that she now has all this power.
And this election with Donald Trump, where he crushed her,
is a repudiation of the world that she had been
living in before, at least in her own mind, and
certainly in the state of California, where she just gets

(29:15):
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has to be there well turned out. Not this time,
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Speaker 10 (30:44):
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Speaker 2 (30:56):
That toutsierole it was in fact a song. It is
in fact a dance from the nineties, back when I
used to listen to the music on the radio to
the left, Tutsy, that's a great that's a great tune, everybody.
I'm just glad that the team pulled this one together

(31:19):
for me on the fly, because I was sounding like
a crazy person talking about the magic tutsi role song
that didn't exist. It does exist. Thank you, Thank you
for this one. Carol marco Itz joins us. Now, Carol,
do you, in fact remember that fantastic song about the
tutsi role.

Speaker 13 (31:37):
I do not.

Speaker 9 (31:38):
I don't. I want to. I'm like trying to rack
my brain and think about it. I saw the dance.
None of this is familiar to me at all.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Wow, I am on an island here that I was
not expecting to be. I thought you were gonna tell
me that this was a very famous dance in the
early nineties. But all right, well, well I thought so.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Then again, apparently I'm no one in the studio in
New York. Even they thought I was like having a
like a Biden moment or something. I was just talking nonsense.
So it turns out there is a tutsi roll song.
And I got to say when that funky beat came on.
My moves start my moves, and grooves started to get
going over here. All right, Carol Markowitz, you like me.

(32:20):
We're in a weird position here, Carol, Let's be honest
about this, okay, because we're going to talk about New
York City with a lot of native knowledge of New
York having both lived there between the two of us
for like sixty years, I mean a very long time
between the two of us.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
And yet some of our New York area listeners will
point out we now both live in South Florida. So
there's that I just wanted to get I wanted to
get that out there as we express our love for
New York.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
This Mom Donnie situation, thirty thousand foot view? What do
you see happening? Where are you on all this?

Speaker 9 (32:56):
You know, I'm holding out hope that Andrew Como is
going to beat him. That's where we are right now.
I mean, Andrew Cmo is why I live in Florida,
and so there's some irony to the fact that if
I were in New York right now, I would be
voting for Andrew Cuomo. Crazy as that is. But I
think Mamdanie runs away with this. I think New York
is a very blue city. It's an off year election,

(33:18):
Donald Trump as president. All of these factors are going
to play into the Democratic candidate winning like as usual.
The only difference is this Democratic candidate is really far left.
He is a self proclaimed socialist. I would call him
a communist. He wants government run grocery stores, he wants
government to take over private buildings. I mean, he is

(33:41):
really far left. I hope that he loses. Let's start
with that. I don't think that's happening though. And then
if he wins, I hope that he's unable to implement
his policies, which seems likely. I don't think he's going
to be able to do many of the things he
wants to do. I root for New York to turn
it around, But every day they move close further away

(34:01):
from the great place that it used to be. People
always say to me, like, well, why did you take
so long to leave New York? And I say, it
was amazing.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
It was so great.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
It was so safe, it was so clean, it was
it was in such good shape during the Bloomberg years
that it took the Dablasio several years to destroy that,
and that's where New York is right now.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Now, I most, you know, first and foremost, I think
I identify with the neighborhood that I grew up in
and I went to Saint David's in Regis, So I
identify with the Upper east Side, like that's my if
I had to pick my home neighborhood in New York.
I'm an Upper east Side guy at heart. And there
was always I think I think that was the Upper
east Side. When was it Joe Loda ran back, you know,

(34:48):
years ago I'm trying to remember now it was Stanton
Island on the Upper east Side, like two of the
only places that were read in that in that election.
So the Upper east Side has had a little, a
little little tinge of sanity. That's I think gotten less
and less time. You are a You're Park Slope person, right, No.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
No, buck Sexton, how dare you? I am a South
Brooklyn person. And if you look at the map of Brooklyn,
it's South Brooklyn is like a red on cleave. I
mean Donald Trump won South Brooklyn and it's you know,
I was born in the Soviet Union. I grew up
in like we called it, the Russian community in Brooklyn,
even though a lot of us are not Russian. It's

(35:26):
that community is super conservative. And I lived in park
Slope towards the end of my staff.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Okay, she throws that in there at the end, like
I'm a crazy person. I'm so. I'm sorry you only
most recently were a park Slope.

Speaker 13 (35:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (35:39):
Look, park Slope is for anybody listening who doesn't know
it's a super left area that it's crazy that we
live there at all.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Maybe would you agree with me? Will you agree? I
think if you're trying to pick, I think Upper west
Side in park Slope probably two of the bluest of
all of the five boroughs, right, I mean you're rebelly
of bluer.

Speaker 9 (36:00):
It's even further left. I mean they're both very Democrat.
But when I moved to Park Slope from the Upper
west Side, actually what I found was like on the
Upper west Side, if they want to build a homeless shelter,
all the liberal Upper west Siders like, no, I don't
want a homeless shelter in my block in park Slope.
They wouldn't do that. They would say, look, obviously we
need a homeless shelter, but you know, we're just worried

(36:20):
about the carbon footprint and like the transportation issue, like
they would completely standbag the conversation and make it something
else entirely. So that's the difference, I think between liberalism
and leftism.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So this is I want you to take us, take
us into the mentality here a little bit, because you
lived around this and you know these people, and you're
still in contact with the with the ultra deep blue
elements of New York City, the people with like you know,
three to six million dollar townhouses in and around the
Park Slope area, who were going to vote for Mom Donnie.

(36:55):
What the heck is wrong with them? Like, explain to
me what they are thinking.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
Well, they're the same people who had to defund police
signs in their windows in twenty twenty. And that's the
kind of thing that pushed us out. We couldn't live
with that hypocrisy. And these people, Yeah, they think that
they're socialist warriors, and they think that when they say
eat the rich, they don't mean them somehow, you know.
So you have like Billie Eilish, for example, talking yesterday

(37:21):
or two days ago about how billionaires shouldn't exist. But
she's a multi millionaire who does she think, like, is
next after they get rid of the billionaires. Yeah, these
people don't think it applies to them. I think that
they are, you know, safely in const from the surrounding area,
and they don't worry about there being no police. For example.

(37:43):
They think, I'll just get private security if I have to.
It's another level of just insanity over there.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Now another part of this, you're Jewish, there are and
you know, we have all these South Florida Jewish friends
in common who are all very sane, sound thinkers about
all these things. And then I have to sometimes think
back to when I lived in New York and there
were some right wing Jews who I agree with on

(38:12):
all things political. And then you have the far left
Jewish contingent, and they're going to be voting for Mom
Donnie in substantial numbers. All the polling shows you're going
to have people who are Jewish, who are self described
Jews in New York voting for a guy who says,
when the NYPD has its boot on your neck, the

(38:33):
IDF is lacing up the shoes like this is crazy.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
The thing is okay. So there's two things about that.
One you can say you're Jewish. Even if you're totally
not Jewish, if you have like one Jewish relative somewhere
down the line and it happens to be on your
mom's side, you can say you're Jewish. And that's what
a lot of these people do. They don't do anything
that makes them Jewish. You know. They think that bagel
and cream cheese is Jewish. So these people are a

(38:58):
not Jewish, but be Every poll that I've seen in
the last like two weeks has had the number at
around eighteen to twenty percent. Which listen, let me not
you know, kid myself here. One out of every five
Jews in New York City voting from Mamdanie is still high.
But look, twenty percent of Jews voting for the Democrat
and eighty percent not voting for the Democrat is actually

(39:20):
a huge shift for the Jewish community. And Donald Trump
got somewhere in the forty percent of Jewish vote. That
has never happened before. I hope that number continues to climb.
I hope my neighborhood, not my neighborhood, but my people
continue to wake up. Because Russian Jews have been conservatives
all along. It's you know, the American Jews who have
been here for one hundred plus years, who never had

(39:42):
any strife, who don't know what the world is like.
Those are the people who are on the left, and
they're breeding themselves out, and the ones that aren't are
coming over to the right.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Speaking to Carol Markowitz, Her show is on the Klaimbuck
podcast network. Go check out the Carol Markowitz Show and
also Normally, which she co hosts with Mary Catherinham. Great
to listen to over this weekend. What are some of
the things on the most recent Normally podcast?

Speaker 9 (40:06):
Well, Mary Catherine and I are talking about all the
things that are in the news. We cover Tucker and Puentus,
We get into the shutdown, all the news that you're hearing.
Mary Catherine and I are on it. On Normally, we
talked Bill Gates saying that climate change is no longer
a big issue. Thanks so much for that, Bill, after
destroying so many lives along the way. We cover all

(40:27):
that with humor.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I can I tell you, you know, I had a
friend in New York, an older guys by tennis with
very very wealthy guy, and you know he was I
would say a Democrat, but like a reasonable democrat, and
one day we got crossing, you know, on the tennis court.
We're like, you know, waiting to switch sides. We're sitting

(40:49):
down the bench and I started talking to him and
he asked me about climate change, and he was and
I just did my usual thing. I've been the same
since I was like twelve, right, So I just launched
into my thing. This is twenty years ago, and I'm like,
it's a We're not all gonna melt, the polar bears
aren't drowning. No one actually believes this. No one's getting
a deal on Martha's vineyard real estate because it's all
gonna be underwater. Like this is all garbage, he thought,

(41:12):
And he had hurt all my other right wing stuff.
He thought I was nuts. Like he actually was like,
are you like it really unsettled him. Yeah, to those
people who think that way, now that one of their
one of the high priests of this total delusion, Bill Gates,
is like, yeah, it's actually not that big of a deal.
Barack Obama gave a speech at the Coastguard Academy saying

(41:35):
it was the biggest national security threat we faced, Carol,
climate change.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Do we get any apologies from these people for being
idiots like, how does.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
This go right?

Speaker 9 (41:46):
It's exactly. We don't get any apologies from these people.
They just get to walk back their ridiculous comments. And
what we're all supposed to take it. I mean, Bill
Gates is saying what I think even you know, everybody's
been saying for the last decade, us even people on
from the liberal side. I think of Constantine Kissing for example,
he made this point that, you know, stopping poverty is

(42:08):
the most important thing, not climate change. And if you're
if you're somebody who lives somewhere without indoor plumbing and
your kids, you know, need to eat, you're not going
to care about climate change. And he said, you know,
he made this point, and that's what Bill Gates ended
up saying. You know, three days ago, it's like, wake up,
this is not new. It's crazy. And I had the

(42:28):
same experience in New York, like people who thought I
was reasonable whenever we get into climate change, you know,
I would say to them, well, who's your favorite climate scientists?
And of course they would have no idea because they
don't actually study the climate science. They just say they
find whatever. The time said.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It was funny to me because it was One of
the big differences for me was on other things, like
if I was talking to somebody about about guns, I understand,
like guns matter to me, like firearms, the Second Amendment
and and and for them it's terrifying. But at least
we're having a discussion about something that's worth discussing, Like
I want to explain to them why the right to

(43:07):
bear arm is so important, and they they think that
it's going to make all the mean, bad crime go away,
if the scary ar guns, which no one actually really
uses to kill anybody. Ninety nine percent of the time
it's fistles on climate change. I'm like, I don't even
want to I don't even know what we're talking about
here is there was I don't care at all, Like
there's no discussion to be had, and yet for years

(43:28):
they're going to totally rewrite the history on this for years.
It's one of the areas I think where libs would
go the most insane on you at a cocktail party.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And you know, one of my
points about it was always like, if I'm Bill Gates
and I really believe in climate change, I cann't possibly
keep using my private plane. But he does, so, then
that means he does not believe it. There's no reason
in the whole world. It doesn't matter how many people
talk to you on the commercial flight. If you really
believe you're flying on a private plane causes climate change,

(44:00):
and you wouldn't do it. And it's the same thing
with like Leonardo DiCaprio, al Gore. All of these people
just seem like they don't believe what they're actually saying.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, total frauds, total frauds. What are your kids for Halloween? Carol?

Speaker 9 (44:13):
The youngest one is going to be a nineteen twenties
gangster with me and my husband. He thought he was
going to be a nineteen nineties gangster and he started
using the West Side gang sign. Yeah, we had tell
him that wasn't that kind of gangster. Middle Sun is
going to be some kind of like I don't even know,
camouflage guy. And then the fifteen year old girl, she's
too cool. I don't know what she's going to be,
if she's going to be anything.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
M okay, yeah, well.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
The kids, they really they stop. They stopped doing what
you want after a certain time. So get all dressing
up in now.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Oh, we have my dog dressed up as a Miami
Heat you know, Miami Heat jersey. That's that's as festive
as wee get over. Your ginger has a Miami Heat jersey.
That's about all.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
We love it.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, good time everybody dressing up? Who speed? Now we're
not going nah he's yeah, he's a He's speed. Doesn't
roll like that, you know what I mean. He's a
distinguished fellow. Already check out the Carol Mark would show
this weekend. Carol, give Shay a hug from me and
we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 9 (45:12):
Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2 (46:25):
Welcome back in to Clay and back. Our friend Miranda
Divine joins us now. She's the host of pod Force
one and she just sat down with our phenomenal vice president,
mister J. D. Vance to talk about a whole range
of things. But first, Miranda Clay is unfortunately stuck in transit.

(46:47):
He was at our boss and mentors induction into the
Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago, and I got a
pass because I'm on baby sitting duty here for my
little one. But he had our proxy there and he
was celebrating, and now he's trying to get home. It
is a mess. I think Nashville just said that they
basically don't have enough air traffic controllers for the airport

(47:10):
to be functioning. Like what's going to happen?

Speaker 8 (47:12):
I mean, it's horrendous. I don't think people are fully
grasped how terrible it is. And I have a friend
knew it was shut down last night. And I have
a friend who we were doing something last night. She
had to fly out of Newark to Palm Beach for
her mother's birthday party, and all flights were canceled. She
ended up getting a train to new Haven and then

(47:34):
getting one of those cheap plot flights from there finally
to Palm Beach. She got there at nine point thirty
this morning, so it was, you know, just a twelve
hour ordeal. And it sounds like Clay's going through the
same thing. It's light a Beach on Sunday to interview
somebody there. It's I mean, I feel like I know

(47:57):
the airlines have to do it to keep things safe,
but when you have TSA as well. It's not just
the flight air traffic controllers. I have another friend whose
family was coming in from England on the weekend that
ended up having to sit on the plane after that
long trip for an hour on the tarmac because the
custom hall was full. It took them ended up taking

(48:20):
them three hours to get through customs.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah. I bring this up one because it's just I
think everyone can commiserate with travel nightmare stories. But also
this is in the past something that has actually brought
really intense pressure onto government shutdown situations. I mean, is
this do you think this could could get the Democrats
to snap out of it sooner than anticipated or do

(48:48):
they have some kind of a game plan. They're still running.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
Well it ought to. We've had all the leaders of
the airlines have come out and said, you know, without
saying well it's dangerous, just saying this is affecting the economy,
this is hurting people. We've got the snap benefits ending tomorrow,
you know, we have the unions have come out and
they have also pressured the Democrats to end this thing,

(49:14):
and they just remain implacable because for them, they're just
it's they're losing everything. They don't have anything really to lose,
I guess because they're so they're very lost everything, and
they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing
because it hurts the government. It stops the Trump administration

(49:38):
from being able to continue on with what they're doing,
whether it's deporting illegal migrants or fixing the economy or
doing any of the things unwinding all the other toxic
policies of the Biden administration. It just puts us spoke
in their wheels. And it also creates anger among their voters,

(49:59):
who they can, you know, already have Trump derangement and
are willing to believe the worst. They just lie in
gaslight and tell them, oh, yet, you know, Donald Trump's fault.
And so when the snap money runs out tomorrow and
the food stamps run out tomorrow, a lot of grocery
stores have put security guards around their stores to try

(50:20):
and prevent people from coming and just taking the stuff.
It's really setting up a really nasty situation, very volatile,
and ultimately, even though the polls are moving against the Democrats,
I feel like things are coming to a head and
that Trump eventually will be blamed. He said, today when

(50:42):
he gave a little gaggle that he's willing to sit
down and negotiate with the Democrats, but they have to
open up the country first. They have to end the shutdown,
and he said normally they would have, but they're now crazy.
And I agree with that. I think Chuck Schumer has
gone mad. He's so petrified about the insurgent left on

(51:04):
his side of the party, especially in New York where
Zora Mandani is looking like he's going to romp at home.
They're all scared the resident Democrat kind of old guard
who's stuffed everything up until now. And of course you're
going to have young people, young Democrat voters who are
rightly angry about the mess the Democrats have made of everything.

(51:28):
So they're taking things into their own hand. It's a
like a revolution inside the Democrat Party. But unfortunately we're
all suffering.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Miranda. I also want to ask you, just because you
have excellent sources in this administration. You just sat down
with Jeddie Vans for your podcast podforst one. Everyone should
go check out that episode, This reporting about strikes inside
of Venezuela. What kind of credibility do you put on it?
What's your sense as to how imminent that may be.

(51:59):
There's definitely a lot of military resources in the Caribbean now,
which is not usually where we think of a major
military presence from the US side.

Speaker 10 (52:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Look, I don't have any inside gossip on that. I'm
a little cautious and a little concerned because, you know,
are we being told the whole truth? You know, is
this really just about stopping drugs from coming into the
country or is it some sort of soft beginning of

(52:30):
a regime change in Venezuela. If that's the case, we
should be told about it upfront. And you know, Donald
Trump's got a lot on his plagues, just come back
from Asia, I suppose he'll be focusing on this again.
But Marco Rubia, the Secretary of State, is running that
operation along with Pete Hegseth. When they're blowing you know,

(52:51):
boats and submarines out of the water, I mean, that's
all great if they're all drug dealers, But what are
we doing now? Is it really about stopping their cartels
or is there something else. If there's something else, great,
you know, I'm all for it if it's surgical and contained.
But I think we need to be told a little

(53:12):
more than we are now because it does sort of
raise a lot of red flags.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Now, in your interview with JD, one thing that I
know you talked about was the very widely watched and
discussed Oval Office Zelensky Trump JD verbal melee Donnybrook cover
and wants to say it. What did you learn from

(53:39):
talking to JD about that? And how do you think
this administration is seeing the Russia Ukraine issue currently?

Speaker 8 (53:47):
Yeah, well, he was sort of that pains to talk
about the fact that that's in the past. You know,
he said that he's sitting there, he felt that Zelensky
had been rude to present and he felt that, you know,
he wanted to make the point that if any world
leader comes to the Oval Office, they owed the President
of the United States an enormous amount of respect, and

(54:10):
he didn't feel that that was happening. But he thinks
that the relationship has been reset and that while if
you asked him a couple of months ago, did he
think that the prospect of peace was possible, he said
he would have said, no, They're just going to keep fighting.
It's going to be their Vietnam. And now he's a

(54:31):
little more optimistic. He thinks that there is a possibility
that they can work it through. And you know, Russia's
in transigence, he said, yep, I mean that is certainly
the case. Now it's really one minute you think you've
got one side on the right page, the next minute

(54:51):
you think you've got the other one. It's messy. It's
a to and fro. But he's got faith that President
Trump is going to pull it off ultimately.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Speaking of Miranda Devine, host of pod Force one, she
just interviewed Jade Vance. Go check out her episode of
that one wherever you listen to your podcast and Miranda,
something else that came up. We actually have a cut
from your interview, and here is this is on It's
something that Clay and I see very differently. Let's put
that out there, which is UFOs. Here is JD when

(55:21):
you asked him about this play twenty.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
Seven, Chelsea Gabbon says that she believes there are aliens.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Do you believe that?

Speaker 9 (55:27):
You know?

Speaker 8 (55:28):
I don't.

Speaker 13 (55:28):
It's interesting. I wouldn't say that I do or don't
believe it. I mean, I'm a big believer that there
are things out there that we can't explain, and so
if another person sees an alien, maybe I see an
angel or a demon. So I'm a big believer that
there are like spiritual forces working on the physical world

(55:49):
that a lot of us don't see, and a lot
of us still understand and a lot of us still appreciate.
But you know, is it aliens or is it our
guardian angel? Or is it aliens? Or is it a
Nazi guardian force that doesn't care about us or in
fact actively wishes this horm I don't know the answer
that question.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Interesting because I had people writing in that they said, well,
what you should play that for us? But Miranda, this
is a great opportunity. Clay's not here to defend himself.
I think that there are no aliens and that the
UFO stuff is all overblown nonsense. So you just agree
with me, right, what do you think?

Speaker 11 (56:23):
No?

Speaker 8 (56:24):
I don't really I have an open mind about it.
I think my feeling is just that if vargant, it
would be arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent
life forms in the universe.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Ah, you're with Clay on the Oh my god, Clay's
not even here and she's taking his side. This is
so sad.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
And look I grew up reading science fiction avidly, so
I love all of that. But I thought it was interesting,
and you know, he sort of did an intellectual pivot
from the UFOs to the spiritual realm. And I'm totally
with him on that. You know that that there are

(57:03):
things that we cannot explain. Again, it's about humility and
not being arrogant. We can't explain certain things. It's phenomena
in the world around us. And so I do believe
that there is you know, whether it's guardian angels or demons.

Speaker 12 (57:24):
Or whatever it is.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
I don't think that we can just assume that everything
is just what we see in front of us. And
so I thought it was interesting and that it went
to the heart of his faith, his Catholic faith. He's
a convert, and he talked about going to the Church
of the Holy Sepulcher and Jerusalem last week when he
was visiting there, and just it was so moving for

(57:50):
him emotionally and spiritually that he said he wept, And
so I thought that was, you know, a nice side
of him to see.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Tell me about the relationship that you got into this
with JD. The relationship between Trump and the President and
President Trump.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
Yeah, that was interesting. He's very respectful of him. And
he also said that he, you know, because he had
been a never Trumper early on, and he's changed his mind.
He said, in part, he changed because he realized that
President Trump was not an inter interventionist, was not a
regime changed. Guy was against war. JD served in Iraq,

(58:33):
is very against war, but he likes the peace through
strength philosophy that President Trump has. And he talked about
how I said, what have you learned about President Trump
that's new and that people might not know? And he said, well,
he's got a very good heart. And he described how
they just had him for dinner, him and the first

(58:54):
lady for dinner at the Vice President's residence, the Naval Observatory,
and how he they kept the kids upstairs. They've got
three little kids with the babysitter, because you know, they
didn't want them jumping all over the president. And the
President wanted to see them so and the kids wanted
to see him, so they came down and you know,
like JD says, like their little kids, they're uncontrollable. They're

(59:16):
running around, and he said, President Trump just loved it.
You know, he was so kind to them and treated them,
you know, like little human beings, and that he's very
grandfatherly and he's great with kids, and so that was interesting.
And also just what we've all observed is his prodigious
work ethic, the fact that Carolyn Levitt told me this

(59:40):
as well, that on these long trips that he does
on Air Force One, like when he did that whirl
wind Jerusalem Egypt trip for the peace deal. It was
thirty hours in the air there and back and President
Trump didn't sleep and everyone else is like going to sleep,
and JD says, you know, he'll come up and sort

(01:00:01):
of prod various members of his cabinet who might be
dozing as it's they're weak and low energy, you know,
because they sleep and he doesn't. And Carolyn told me, like,
he goes in, it's one am, and he decided he
was going to do a press gaggle and she's like, okay,
I'll have to go and wake them all up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
That was and the other you go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
The other interesting thing was I met JD's beautiful dog,
a German shepherd called Atlas, and just a sort of
an adolescent about eighteen months and very fit, but also
incredibly well disciplined, well trained by him, and so I
sort of made a quick about the Secret Service agents

(01:00:45):
who probably have PTSD from Joe Biden's absolutely feral German
shepherd's commander and major who were attacking the agents left
fronts and are drawing blood, biting them, tearing their clothes.
And Jad said yes and laughed and said, yeah, well
a few of the agents have actually expressed gratitude to

(01:01:07):
him that his dog, by contrast, is so well behaved.
And he is, and I think it says a lot
about you know, you can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Oh huge, it's a huge indicator, Miranda. I know, I'm
a big dog person. We have a dog here. I
grew up with dogs. You give me some time with
someone's dog. I know a lot about the household. I
know about you know, whether there's a lot of anxiety.
I know about whether there's structure. I know about whether
people are kind. I mean, the dog tells you a
lot about a household. So that's very interesting about Jadi's

(01:01:38):
German Shepherd. Go check out podfor us one. Miranda Devine,
always excellent, Have a fantastic.

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
Weekend, Thanks so much, Buck, and hope Clay gets back quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
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