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August 13, 2026 16 mins

 In this episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson examine the allegations surrounding the reported “Round River” assessment, the FBI’s review of related activities, and broader concerns about transparency, accountability, and political bias within government institutions. They also shift to escalating tensions with Iran, discussing statements from a senior adviser to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps suggesting Tehran could seek to prolong its confrontation with the United States in an effort to outlast President Donald Trump. The conversation explores U.S. pressure tactics against Iran, claims about economic strain on the regime, and reports of ongoing threats against the president.

A newly disclosed report about an alleged FBI and intelligence operation called “Round River” is raising questions about how public figures were categorized during investigations tied to Russian disinformation and the Biden family Ukraine scandal. According to the report discussed in this episode, prominent Republicans and conservative organizations were allegedly labeled as “conduits” of disinformation, while leading Democrats were categorized as “targets.” The controversy centers on a spreadsheet reportedly recovered from U.S. intelligence files and released by the White House Government Transparency Task Force. The document has sparked debate over whether political affiliation influenced how individuals and organizations were treated by federal agencies. 

Topics Covered:

  • The reported FBI and intelligence assessment known as “Round River”
  • Allegations that public figures were categorized as “conduits” or “targets” of disinformation
  • The White House Government Transparency Task Force document release
  • FBI reviews involving the Foreign Influence Task Force
  • Iran’s reported strategy to prolong confrontation with the United States
  • President Trump’s pressure campaign, sanctions, and blockade strategy against Iran

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It seems this is a pretty good news.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is good news, and I could not help but
note that the annual rate of course EPI inflation, that's
excluding food and energy. Who you want energy out of
it because of the matter in Iran, take that out
two point five percent in July. That's back to where
it was prior to the start of the Iran conflict.
This tells me that inflation is not spreading out beyond energy,

(00:26):
beyond gasoline prices.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Good news.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Good Thursday morning. Nice to have you with us on
the forty seven Morning Update. And we got two major
stories coming out of the White House. The deep State
we are now learning and the FBI labeled the Secretary
of State Mike Pompeo and the Attorney General Bill Barr
as quote conduits of Russian disinformation. Just how corrupt was

(00:56):
the deep state? We expose it all. Also, we have
news coming out of a Rand that the IRGC is
now saying they want to prolong the war to outlast
Tunnald Trump in office. So what does that mean for
America's play. We'll have that for you as well.

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Speaker 3 (02:54):
Story number one.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
In a shocking report, the Federal Bureau of Investigations allegedly
labeled people such as the former Secretary of State Might
Pompeo and the former Attorney General Bill Barr that would
be the boss of the FBI as conduits quote unquote
of Russian disinformation. According to this recent report. The report

(03:19):
from Just the News revealed that a spreadsheet that was
recovered from the US Intelligence Agency files and that the
White House Government Transparency Task Force made public quote unquote,
contained names such as the former Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton and former President Barack Obama, along with Pompeo and Barr.

(03:42):
While people like Barr and Pompeo were labeled as quote
conduits of Russian disinformation, peoples such as Hillary Clinton and
Barack Obama were labeled as targets. This is not a joke.
A spreadsheet that was recovered from US Intelligence agency files
and has now been made public Wednesday by the White

(04:03):
House Government Transparency Task Force shows that spy agencies and
the FBI created a list of more than six dozen
prominent organizations, Americans or foreigners who became figures and the
Biden family Ukraine scandal, and that the twenty nineteen impeachment

(04:25):
proceedings against President Donald Trump as well. Now the spreadsheet,
and again this is not a joke, neatly divided figures
along one issue you ready for it, political affiliations, in
other words, political party lines. They had the Democrats like

(04:47):
the Bidens, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Barack Obama, George Soros
listed is victimized quote unquote targets of Russian disinformation. And
then the other side, the Conservatives, the Republicans, groups like
Fox News one, America News, even filmmaker Michael Computo and

(05:12):
Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani as quote conduits for disinformation.
Even the late Senator Lindsay Graham and Representative Jim Jordan
were also labeled quote conduits. An administration official explain to
the outlet that the labeling of people as either a

(05:33):
conduit or a target of disinformation was reportedly part of
a secret counterintelligence operation code name Round River. It was
launched apparently during the twenty twenty election cycle.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Now.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
The report from the outlet also noted that an FBI
letter that's now been made public showed that the FBI
had identified at least fourteen different informatis who are quote
providing derogatory information on the bidens. In other words, this
was a political hit list, a political enemies list, a

(06:12):
list of Republicans that the deep state wanted to target
and silence. Now In the letter to the White House
Government Transparency Task Force, the FBI Director Cash Patel also
stated that the FBI was quote investigating weather. The Foreign
Influenced Task Force, known as FtF used information learn from

(06:36):
the Round River assessment to undermine or influence ongoing investigations.
The FBI director Patel also said the task force was
terminated on his watch. Now, there were also other internal
reviews of the FtF, and they're not yet complete. We've
been told that we know that the investigation used in

(07:00):
information learn from the Round River assessment. And the real
question that everyone needs to be asking now is this
was the fitf using information it was learned from the
Round River assessment to then undermine or then influence ongoing
investigations by only focusing on the subset of confidential human

(07:22):
sources involving the bidens. That is what Patel reportedly has
said in the letter. Now, if you take a step
back and you say, okay, so what does this actually mean.
What it means is that our government apparently was having
lists that were put together. One list to say that

(07:43):
if you're a Democrat, we automatically are going to treat
you like you are a victim and then our job
is to protect you. And the other list, which is
if you were a conservative or a Republican, including a
news organization like Fox News, then if you were the target,
you were the one that was pushing the propaganda against

(08:06):
the quote democrats and so therefore you should be investigated.
This is the most shocking list that we've seen todate
because it showed as those they believed were friends of Russia,
those that were advocates of what they described as Russian
disinformation campaigns to influence America. The people on that list

(08:28):
that the deep state was going after were people like
the Secretary of State and the man who was the
Attorney General, Bill Barr of the United States of America.
And what's even more shocking than that is the people
that were quote doing the investigation, who were putting these
people on the list, were supposed to be serving the

(08:49):
people that were on this list. You talk about the
deep state, you talk about the swamp, you talk about
those that were fighting against Donald Trump and other conservatives.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
This is exactly what we thought was happening.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And now we have the data, the receipts, the emails,
the lists that are being made public. The question now
is who is creating the list? Are those people still
in our government? And will there be accountability for this?
That is the question so many Americans are asking, and

(09:25):
based on this being released now, there's a very good
chance that we're headed towards that type of accountability. Next
story number two, we now have some breaking news that
a top advisor to the commander of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary
Guard is now saying that Tehran could deliberately prolong its
war with the United States of America in an effort

(09:47):
to outlast President Donald Trump, as Washington now doubles down
on a quote wall of steel naval blockade that the
US and Israeli officials say.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Is officials say is.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Steadily worse, saying the Islamic Republic's economic crisis quote. One
way is to prolong the war until we get the
next term of the presidency and cause attrition so that
if anyone else wants to attack Iran, they will know
there is a cost. That is what the brigadier general

(10:19):
told PBS in a rare interview that was published on Tuesday. Now,
the long time senior IRGC figure who served as the
Forces Coordinating Deputy from nineteen to twenty twenty five and
now serves a senior advisor to its commander, laid out
the potential strategy as Iran's newly reshuffled military leadership increasingly

(10:41):
prepares for a prolonged confrontation, as they described it with
Washington and specifically with Donald Trump. Quote, we have to
obtain deterrent so that the enemy never dares to attack us,
so we can live with security.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
This general went on to argue that time would fail Tehran,
claiming the conflict has given Iran valuable experience fighting the
United States, while exposing the American military is quote weaker
than what we perceived. The longer this war lasts, the
more experience we gain, is what the ERGC official said.

(11:17):
He added that Iran had never previously experienced a war
that allowed it to learn firsthand how to fight the
United States, but claim that in these five months we
have learned how yet again clearly showing that this is
something they're using as massive propaganda.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Here's more of that interview.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
No, we have not yet reached our final objective. This
is clear. Up until now, we are victorious. In the
future we will continue to be victorious. The longer this
war lasts, the more experience we gained. We had never
seen a real war to gain real experience to learn
how to fight with America. In these five months we
have learned how. We have also seen how the American

(12:00):
military is weaker than what we perceived.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Now this is clearly not only propaganda that's going to
the people in Iran, but also to the world. The
White House, by the way, answered the proposed attrition strategy
with a blunt warning to Tehran, saying, quote, it would
be wise for Rand to agree to a deal, The
White House told PBS in response to their interview, saying, quote,

(12:25):
otherwise they know what will happen now. This proposal to
try to outlast Trump runs directly against the strategy that
President Trump has increasingly embraced maintain overwhelming military leverage around
Iran while allowing the blockade, frozen assets, sanctions, and Tehran's
mounting economic problems to steadily tighten the pressure.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
The USA has total control over the Strait of Hormus.
I think we will keep it, Donald Trump declared on
True Social saying our naval blockade is being called by
everyone a wall of steel, and there is nothing Iran
can do about it now. The President Trump was not
finished there. He went on to say they have no navy,

(13:10):
they have no air force, Their remaining soldiers are unpaid,
the IRGC is decimated in fleeing, and their leadership quote
unquote is uncertain at best. They have no money, their
country is shot. All they have is fake news. And
three hundred percent inflation and getting worse. Iran is all

(13:33):
talk and no action. The bully of the Middle East
is no longer. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Trump. That was his latest true social tweet.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Now, all of this rhetoric coming from the IRGC commander
who did this interview, comes after we learned the bigger
story that the Iranian government was apparently trying to assassinate
Donald Trump yet again and there was a major threat
against the president Air Force one. Now that story was
obviously one that was breaking while they were deciding to

(14:05):
do this interview with PBS. Let me remind you of
some of those details of the reporting came in from Fox.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
If it's the very latest, Hey Trey, Yeah, Hey guys,
good morning. It's a story that has captured the world
attention this week, a threat by the Iranian regime on
President Trump's life in Turkey. Last month. The Wall Street
Journal reports it was actually Israeli intelligence that tipped off
the administration to a specific danger. The report explains the

(14:33):
sourcing on this information, saying the US official said Israel
brief the Trump administration on the intelligence, which included a
threat to use shorder to air missiles to target Air
Force One. Ultimately, the President was reportedly moved from Air
Force One to another plane using a catering truck. Fox
has not independently confirmed that detail.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So, President, can you tell us about your ride on
the airport catering truck in Perty?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Why did you need to do that? Well, up to
Secret Service. I just follow what they'd like to do.
So I go by Secret Service and the military. They
wanted me to go in a different flight, a different plane,
equal safety. But hey, they wanted me to do it,
so I do it. I do what they say.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
President Trump yet again there saying hey, I'm not giving
you the exact story that you want me to confirm,
but stating yes, he did go on a different plane.
So you look at all of this and you see
where we are now. It is very clear the Presidence
putting maximum pressure on Iran, doing everything can to choke
hold their economy. Inflation is now at three hundred percent

(15:39):
or more, and the Iranian i ERGC radicals are saying
they want to try to wait out the president. That
would be a very long two plus years. The President
saying he wants to get this deal done, but he
will continue to use maximum pressure to do everything he
can to have a RAN's leadership full.

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