August 5, 2026 • 31 mins
A Michigan Democratic Senate primary becomes the starting point for a broader conversation about the ideological direction of the Democratic Party and whether activist movements on the left are reshaping its future. In the aftermath of primary results, Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson examine what they see as growing influence from democratic socialist and progressive candidates in key races around the country. The discussion expands beyond Michigan to races in New York, Colorado, and Wisconsin, where the hosts argue that emerging political figures and grassroots movements are challenging traditional Democratic Party leadership. They also debate how social media, younger voters, and changing political coalitions are affecting both major parties.
In this episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson discuss the Michigan Senate primary featuring Abdul El-Sayed and Haley Stevens, analyze the rise of democratic socialist candidates in several states, react to comments from Van Jones about political change inside the Democratic Party, examine proposals for publicly supported grocery stores in New York City, and debate what these developments could mean for future elections and the broader American political landscape.
Topics Covered:
- Michigan Democratic Senate primary and the contest between Abdul El-Sayed and Haley Stevens
- Democratic Socialist movement and its growing influence in Democratic politics
- New York City grocery store proposals and debates over government involvement in markets
- Van Jones’ comments on generational and organizational change inside the Democratic Party
- Wisconsin governor’s race and controversy surrounding Francesca Hong’s past remarks
- The hosts’ concerns about the future ideological direction of both major political parties
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is Verdicals Center, Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with your center.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I love nights like tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's late, it's basically one in the morning. It is
election night in America, and we've got some results that
may scare the living.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know what out of a lot of our listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, if you sleep well at night, you may not
when you reflect on the fact that the Communist Party
is taking over the Democrat Party. We're sitting here, it
is right now, twelve forty four am, and you look
at the Michigan Senate primary. Now it's too close to call,
(00:37):
so the result may be different. But as of twelve
forty four am, Abdul l Sayed has five hundred and
forty nine eight hundred and thirty nine votes, that's forty
nine point seven percent. And Hailey Stevens, who is a
left wing Democrat but not a fully insane communist is
the mist is at five hundred twelve thousand, six hundred
(00:58):
and fifty six votes, which is forty six point three percent.
Seventy two percent of the expected votes are in. Now
it's too close to call, so maybe we'll wake up
in the morning and Hayley Stevens will have surged and won.
Maybe maybe, but look all the polling says L say
it is gonna win. Yeah, and listen right now, we
(01:20):
don't know. By the time you're listening to this pod,
you may know. What I will say is L say
it is expected to win. He's ahead right now. And
this is a sign of where the Democrat Party is.
They are one hundred percent bat crap crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, and that's pretty it de rated for our audience.
I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know, crap is a nice It's like a word
you can use with third graders. Crap is sort of soft.
It's like it's not poo poo. Yeah, but it's it's
in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's verdict friendly. That's how I would describe the word.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Hey, hey, we we have a lot of kids, a
lot of teenagers, a lot of all. The truth of
the matter is I have two teenagers, and so they've
heard all the words, yes, but even so have your
kids heard all the words?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
How old are your kids now?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Man Bradley turned ten yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was the big, big double digit birthday, and the
twins are seven. He has definitely heard a lot more
of the words like we've had to deal with the
F bomb in the last six months.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That was like a big from him.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Did he say it?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, no, no, he didn't say it, but he heard it
and he knew it was a bad word, and it
was like one of those like how do we navigate
this one kind of moment?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I do remember, bizarrely enough, in fifth grade hearing that
and this was not true, but hearing that a boy
named Rod f't and that was the word they used,
a girl named Marie And by the way, fifth graders were.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Not doing that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But I literally came home crying, like I actually remember
this in fifth grade. I was like I didn't even
fully understood stand what it meant, but it upset me.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, No, we had to deal with
the full It was like the full breakdown.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Why would someone say this and it was bad? It
was one of.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Those someone said it to him or what was the context.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He heard it? It's from there was a group of
kids that were a little older. They were on the
golf course and.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It was one years old. Is what grade?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Second? Going to third?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So and look, you know he went to the same
school you went to so like, that's not a word
you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It turns out people say and do bad things at
Christian schools just like every other place on earth.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, okay. So he's in second grade and he hears
the F bomb.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And he comes to me. He's like, hey, Dad, I
heard a word. I think it's really really bad. How
bad is it? And I was like, well, what was
the word you heard? He said, Please don't tell mom,
and I said I I okay, I like.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Ben, let me say, as a fellow dad, let me
just get props to you that your son is coming
to you telling you that that's actually really cool. Yeah, like, look, look,
every kid's going to experience this. You can't put them
in a cocoon, you can't isolate them. But I'm glad
he like comes and raises it with you that that's
well done on the dead front.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It was one of those moments and he was like,
don't tell mom. I was like, well, whine he goes,
because then she'll never let me play golf with them again.
And I was like, you're a smart kid, Like you're
a smart like you understood the dynamic of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It was yeah, I told him. I was like, you
don't say it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I told I did the I did the We don't
say it for multiple reasons. But you don't want to
be looked as an uneducated idiot like they are.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's how.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But by the way, I will say with teenagers also
like like if you listen to like sort of rap
songs and modern music where they drop curse words and
f poms, and it's you know, you're trying to like
our girls are fifteen and eighteen, so you're trying to
they've heard the words. They unfortunately sometimes use them. We
try to get them not to, but like they'll play
(04:55):
music and they're just dropping f pom after f pom
and I'm like, I really don't like this, Like could
you like speak like a civilized human being. And they're like, Dad,
we don't even listen to the lyrics. We don't know
what they are. And I'm like, yeah, I know what
they are. I'm listening. That's what they're saying. And so
getting back to politics and substances, people are like, okay,
(05:17):
we're hearing like the therapy reports of two dads.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Dealing with their kids. There's also a therapy report.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Like what the heck is happening with the Democrat Party. Yeah,
like this guy L said, all right, a liberal Democrat.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
There are lots of those.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, you have someone wants higher taxes. Okay, I
don't like that. You know, you have someone who has
all sorts of stupid views open borders, even that, that's terrible.
It's bad for America, it's bad for the world. But
all the Democrats support that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah, Medicaid for all, you can go through that.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's like, yeah, look, this is a communist takeover of
the Democrat Party. And I don't use that phrase as exaggeration.
It's not hyperbole. I want to break down what it
is because I think it is really, really dangerous for America.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, it really really is. And by the way, we
talk about this a lot. The stakes could not be
higher than they are right now. And we finally have
a president and administration fighting hard for America first. But
if conservatives like you and I lose focus, now, the
same people who created this mess, they're ready and they're
waiting to resume their destructive progressive agendas.
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Speaker 1 (07:52):
All right, so let's let's go back to this race
in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think the big takeaway for me center is this
the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
We've been saying it it's dead.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The communists, the Marxist the socialists, yet again have proven
they have taken over. This is not San Francisco, this
is not Manhattan. This is a swing state that Donald
Trump has won. And you had a very big debate
there between a establishment elected Democrat who is not exactly
like a moderate Democrat, more liberal Democrat against a full
(08:26):
blown socialist, by the way, an individual that's a huge
anti Semite. There were countless warning signs, and the voters there.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Said, yeah, we like this. This is now nationwide a problem.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So look, I don't want to overstate it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I don't know that the Democrat Party is dead, but
I do think it is at risk of dying.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think we are seeing a communist takeover of the
Democrat Party. We saw it with Comrade Mondami, who is
an ow right Marxist. He's not a socialist. Don't use
the language of Democrats socialist. He is a Marxist. He
believes in seizing the means of production and having government takeover.
He is an outright communist.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Private property, he's been on the record talking about that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Recently, polishing private property, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, being able to seize it and taking things away
from the rich.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And Mandami and by the way, when he says the rich,
he means everyone like the rich, and never means the rich.
He means the middle class because that's where all the
money is, and so that's so they go after. But look,
Mandami has endorsed a series of other communists. We had
three primaries in New York and all the communists won
and beat long time incumbent Democrats. We had another communist
(09:42):
win Colorado. We have this communist in Michigan who is
right now winning we don't know the exact result. We
have another communist who is likely to be the Democrat
nominee for governor in Wisconsin, about as purple a state
as you can find. And the pattern across the board
is they are resurgent. That's where the money is, that's
(10:05):
where the energy is.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
In the party. That's where the young people are.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
The young people are overwhelmingly embracing socialism, Marxism, communism, and
the rest of the Democrats. Look, I serve with forty
seven Democrats in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, most of them would.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Say I'm not a communist, and they're not fully there,
but they are terrified. Every single Democrat in the Senate,
and I assume that's true in the House as well,
is utterly afraid that they're going to be primaried by
some communists in their primary. And they've seen other Democrats
(10:42):
lose in their primaries. And the one huge exception is
John Fetterman, John fetter And it's like Sherlock Holmes and
the Hound of the Baskerville's and the dog that did
not bark. The fact that Fetterman is the one example
makes the silence of every other Democrat so screamingly loud.
(11:05):
They are the dogs that are not barking. Other than Fetterman,
I do not know another Democrat who is saying this
will not stand. We are not a communist party. And
look what does the DSA stand for. Listen to them,
Listen to their own platform, Listen to what they say
they want to rip the Constitution to threads. They want
(11:26):
to abolish the United States Senate.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I don't know why l.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Sied is running for the Senate because he wants to
abolish the institution he's running for. They want to make
the president subservient to the House representatives. They want to
make the Supreme Court subservient to the House representatives. What
does that mean? It means the House becomes like the
polit Borough. It becomes the instrument of government power. What
does it mean when you make the Supreme Court subservient
(11:50):
to the House.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It means you no longer.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Have a judiciary that enforces rights, that enforces the Bill
of Rights. It means you don't have a free speech right,
you don't have a religious liberty right, you don't have
a Second Amendment right. It means that the pollet Bureau,
which they call the House, has total power to take
away your rights and there is no check in balance
because whatever they the government want to do, that's what
(12:16):
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Speaker 2 (13:06):
You look at these results, and let's just move into
Mundami and what is happening right now in New York.
If they if they gain power and they get in
positions of power, you now have a playbook of what
they're going to do with that power. Look at what
Mandani has done, and now we have another example of this,
even with his with his communist grocery stores. What's even
(13:29):
so funny about these grocery stores is he was asked
a question about these grocery store center and I'm sure
you saw this. It's gone viral where they're like, hey,
how do you going to police people coming in from
maybe outside of New York City to go these grocery
stores to buy these groceries at a reduced rate and IDs.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, id's yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
We just make sure they hold up their idea and
they show us that they actually live in New York City.
So you can vote in the election without showing an idea,
but you can't get your communist groceries without an eye.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
That is democrat logic.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
If you want to vote, you don't need an ID.
In fact, we're going to stop anyone from asking for
an ID. If you want to buy government lettuce, show
me a damn ID U thief?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, how is that? Not, by the way, racist?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because they said showing an ID was a form of
racism and yet to show an ID to buy milk
or eggs, that's not racist. I'm confused on their definition
of racism now.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And by the way, I want to read a thread
from a guy named Nick Konnas who is in the
grocery business, and it was actually a very interesting thread
that I read on Twitter. He said, I downloaded and
reviewed NYC's grocery store RFP as someone.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Who's built businesses and bought a lot of food.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Wow, forget for a moment whether the government should own
a grocery store.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Let's review the doc instead, let's here we go.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And by the way, for pure that don't know, RIP
is a request for a proposal. New York has put
out to the public these requests for proposals for people
that would want to run these communist grocery stores for them.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So NYC strongly prefers bidders who commit to all five stores.
There are going to be five government run grocery stores,
but three of the five sites haven't been identified. Bidders
are supposed to price unknown stores in unknown neighborhoods by
assuming their quote about fifteen thousand square feet, so you
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don't know where it is, you don't know what's going on,
but you want to price it. Bidders get preference for
operating all five stores, presumably because scale lowers cost, but
New York City awards each store separately, so an all
five bidder may win only one they want scale pricing
while refusing to award scale. The scores must use a
(15:45):
limited SKU model. They must also carry full grocery departments,
household goods, culturally specific products, plus kosher, hallal, vegan, gluten
free dairy free and diabetic options makes sense. The the
RFP says stores won't have deli counters or on site
food prep, then it's core basket includes chicken, salad, eggs,
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potato salad, fruit salad, and other deli prepared foods. So
a deli without a deli yeah, Oh, and you're going
to ship them in every day prepared, gotcha. NYC chooses
and pays for the design, equipment, refrigeration, and fit out.
The operator pays utilities, maintenance, cleaning, and security. So NYC
(16:30):
makes the capital decisions, will somebody else pays for the consequences.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That's how they control the goalposts.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The best quote unquote bid promises thirty percent discounts, best
in class wages and benefits, local sourcing, sustainability, community programs,
and full time jobs. Then twenty percent of the score
goes to whoever claims they need the least subsidy. Low
Balling is the strategy, and then cost overrun are guaranteed.
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Core basket discounts must be universal quote sticker prices, not promotions.
Then the operator must create a membership card to quote
implement a discount program, which is it universal shelf price
or an ID card system by the way, also says
it's available to all people, and it doesn't even.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Properly target their goals.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Because the subsidy isn't targeted, no means tests anyone could
shop there, So taxpayers will subsidize groceries for affluent shoppers
who happen to live nearby, while needy families elsewhere get zero.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I always thought this was a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
They could much better help people with money, and hey,
there are already programs that they could expand. But after
reading now I know it's a ridiculous idea. We have
an efficient system, just change the outcomes. So naturally one
asks why would they want to build crappy grocery stores.
(18:06):
There's that tenpenny word again, that have conflicting goals and
will be mismanaged because either that's their goal or else
they have no idea how actually to craft an RFP
a run a business. Perhaps my favorite page that I
had not included my original thread is just chef's kiss amazing.
(18:30):
How could you possibly estimate such a thing and such
a level of detail requested? You might want additional spreadsheets,
And then there's a spreadsheet that estimates the sales cost
core basket items, the sales cost non core basket items,
the cost of good souls, the cost of personnel, the
cost of other operational cost programmatic.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Like it is.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
These are idiots who've never run a business, who don't
know how to run a business, who are like, let's
give away a bunch of free crap. Let's order people
to give away free crap. Let's not actually think about
how they get the stuff to give away. And isn't
this awesome? We're communists, Yeah, there is a reason. Do
(19:16):
you remember the moment the Soviet Union fell?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I remember vividly being at my grandfather's house watching the
Berlin Wall come down, and I remember my grandfather getting
a piece of that Berlin wall. That was my most
vivid memories a kid of like watching everything kind of
fall into place.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
If you said, what was that moment, that would be
the moment for me.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So I will tell you there was a moment at
the time when the Soviet Union was collapsing. You were
not a Texan. You were up in Memphis, you were
not living in Texas.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
You may remember in the nineteen nineties Boris Yeltson visited Texas.
He visited Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh, and I've watched those videos of him going to
the grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And he went to a Randall's grocery store store and
he walked down the aisles and he saw like dozens
and hundreds of choices frozen food and vegetables and everything.
And he looked at amazement because the Soviet grocery store,
you had one type of bread, you had one type
of soup, one type of meat, like whatever you had.
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You had no choices. And he looked at that and
there was a moment when he realized communism can never
compete with free enterprise. Yep, Mandami is literally saying, give
us the Soviet model.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, and we think it'll work.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And here's my other question over under on getting a
legitimate company, not like political propaganda BS, but a legitimate
company to actually try to run these grocery stores. Do
you think that they're going to get these requests for
proposals that aren't you know already the deb You know
you're playing the game where it's a genuine grocery's Like, Yep,
(20:59):
I can do this, and I want to do this
business model. I think it can make money. I don't
think anybody would do it.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I don't know how you do business on that. These
grocery stores are going to go broke, They're going to
have shortages.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
They are requiring IDs, which is the most laughable.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
The Democrat part is fully vested in saying IDs are horrible, racist,
evil things, and they're requiring IDs.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
To shop at the grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And this is going to be And by the way,
if they succeeded, they would drive out of business the bodegas.
If you're a small Hispanic business owner, the Democrats want
to bankrupt you. And look, I want you to listen. Listen,
for example, to Van Jones, who is a very left
(21:47):
wing commentator. Listen to him talking about the Communist Party
the Democrat Party, give a listen.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
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Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's prey IFCJ dot org. Okay Van Jones. What are
the stakes here for Democrats?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Look, this is the whole ball of wax. I'm from Jackson, Tennessee.
There's a guy named gil Scott Heron, I who had
a great poem. It was called the Revolution will not
be televised. Gil Scott Heron is wrong. The revolution is
being televised and podcasts and streamed and elected tonight.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Why is that.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
It's because there is a credibility gap that's opened up
between the Democratic Party establishment and this insurgency. People are
looking at people and they're saying, you've been telling us
the same thing for a long time, and our lives
are not eating better. We got Donald Trump twice. There's
also an innovation gap. Why can you spend sixty million
dollars and get woo like this? Because the old model
(24:20):
was you get the donors to get the consultants to
buy a bunch of ads, and you win. That's how
you get attention. This movement says, I don't need donors, ads,
I don't need consultants. I'm going right to the people
with TikTok and grassroots, and they've disintermediated the entire donor class,
mediated the entire consulting class, and this is a revolution,
(24:41):
and so this is going to happen again and again.
The Democratic Party is now Blockbuster, These kids are Netflix.
We are selling CDs out the trunk. This is a
napster becoming Spotify, and it's happened in the night.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
By the way, I'm trying to figure out exactly what
Van Jones is saying there is a tear or is
he just saying I guess I gotta get on board
with this center, Like, which one is it? That was
a weird way of putting it, because it's like, is
he saying that's a mistake or is he saying, well,
this is.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The reality, so we better just get on board with it.
What is it? I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I think it's more of the former.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think Van is My read on that is that
he's being courageous and saying this is a dangerous thing
that is happening. But he's also saying what I said
at the beginning of this podcast, this is the energy,
this is the heart, this is where the Democrat Party
is and it's driving it forward. All right here, I
want you to listen to Francesca Honk. For Francesca Hank
(25:38):
is likely to be the Democrat nominee to be governor
of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a purple state. Donald Trump carried
Wisconsin in twenty twenty four. Wisconsin is elected. It has
a Republican Senator, Ron Johnson is elected numerous Republican governors.
Francesca Han is a full on communist.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But I want to listen.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I want you to listen to her on CNN pplaining
why she hates Thanksgiving and wants to cancel Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Care give a listen.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
One thing that they brought up as well was a
post from you in twenty twenty one where you said
Americans should cancel Thanksgiving. Should have done this in sixteen
twenty one. The post has been deleted. Republicans have been
highlighting it. Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I'm a chef and one of the first meals that
I made that was for the community when I was sixteen,
was a Thanksgiving meal.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
I always think my hospitality background in owning a restaurant
for seven eight years, that bringing folks around the table
to share conversation and build community is always a good thing.
But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for
many people in our communities, and so I think there
I wanted to make sure that people understood that there
(26:56):
are multiple views, but views can evolve and the position
that I'm running for right now, and I think my
background as a chef will actually help me become a
better governor that's able to bring more people to the table.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That is one heck of a sales pitch right there, Senator.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
So that was Caitlyn Collins let CNN.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
She asked the question, and if you're not watching this
on YouTube or on video, you need to watch Caitlyn
Collins eyes because she's listening to her. She asked the question, Hey,
you're running for governor Wisconsin. Do you still want to
cancel Thanksgiving? And it's clear Caitlyn Collins wants her to say, no,
(27:37):
I love Thanksgiving like America is great. No, we don't
want to cancel Thanksgiving. Yeah, And Francesca Hung is like no, no, no,
there's much many people who are horrified by Thanksgiving and
the hate America and those are my people.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So I'm not going to say that I'm a chef.
You know, I once made a Thanksgiving meal like like.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's the most I got to say that clip if
sat Live was willing to make fun of leftists. Yeah,
that's perfectly spreaded, It's perfectly cast.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Do you want to cancel and understand?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So these communists, they hate capitalism, they hate property rights,
they hate the Constitution, they hate free speech, they hate
religious liberty, they hate the Second Amendment.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
They hate America. Gives me no joy to say that.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, they think America is an evil, repressive, racist, oppressive.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Place and they want to destroy it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And so look that communist hates Thanksgiving. You know what
she also hates and I don't even need to ask.
She hates the fourth of July. She hates Christmas.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
She hates Easter. Oh, god knows, she hates Easter. I
think they're two holiday.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
She likes June tenth and kwansa yeah and even no, no, no, okay,
hold on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I made a major mistake. May Day.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
May Day the time to celebrate communists takeovers and oppression
that she supports. But everything about America. By the way,
if you are a Christian, she hates you. If you're
a Jew, she hates you. If you are in business,
she hates you. If you love America, she hates you.
(29:29):
And the same is true with El Sayed, the same
is true with Mondami, these communists, And this is something
I've said in a number.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Of TV interviews.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Look, there are Republicans who are right now beating their
chests and say this is great. The Democrat Party is
going Craig Ray, so we're going to win in November.
Because they're so extreme, we're gonna win. I am not
celebrating this. Look, history shows there's a pendulum to politics. Yes,
fortunaten'tly the Democrats will win again. I wish they wouldn't.
(30:03):
I don't want them to. But there is going to
be another Democrat president yea. And I would like both
national parties to be normal people who are not frigging insane. Yes,
like when there's the next Democrat president, and I hope
I would be thrilled if that doesn't happen in our lifetime,
but it will. I would like the next Democrat president
(30:27):
not to be a communist who hates America. And what
is happening to the Democrat Party? Is there other than
John Fetterman, Is there one Democrat willing to say no,
we will not let our party be taken over.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And by the way, in the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm standing up and saying to the anti Semites that
are trying to take over our party, no, we will
not be a Jew hating Israel hating, anti capitalist, anti
American party. Get the hell out of our party. If
that's who you are, you're not welcome. I'm doing that
in our party other than John Fetterman. Is there one
Democrat doing it that in the party.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, they're all terrified. We're gonna keep exposing them. We're
gonna keep watching them. Don't forget. We do the show Monday,
Wednesday and Friday. Hit that subscriber auto download button and
the Senate I will see you back here on Friday morning.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is Verdicals Center, Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with your center.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I love nights like tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's late, it's basically one in the morning. It is
election night in America, and we've got some results that
may scare the living.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know what out of a lot of our listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, if you sleep well at night, you may not
when you reflect on the fact that the Communist Party
is taking over the Democrat Party. We're sitting here, it
is right now, twelve forty four am, and you look
at the Michigan Senate primary. Now it's too close to call,
(00:37):
so the result may be different. But as of twelve
forty four am, Abdul l Sayed has five hundred and
forty nine eight hundred and thirty nine votes, that's forty
nine point seven percent. And Hailey Stevens, who is a
left wing Democrat but not a fully insane communist is
the mist is at five hundred twelve thousand, six hundred
(00:58):
and fifty six votes, which is forty six point three percent.
Seventy two percent of the expected votes are in. Now
it's too close to call, so maybe we'll wake up
in the morning and Hayley Stevens will have surged and won.
Maybe maybe, but look all the polling says L say
it is gonna win. Yeah, and listen right now, we
(01:20):
don't know. By the time you're listening to this pod,
you may know. What I will say is L say
it is expected to win. He's ahead right now. And
this is a sign of where the Democrat Party is.
They are one hundred percent bat crap crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, and that's pretty it de rated for our audience.
I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know, crap is a nice It's like a word
you can use with third graders. Crap is sort of soft.
It's like it's not poo poo. Yeah, but it's it's
in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's verdict friendly. That's how I would describe the word.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Hey, hey, we we have a lot of kids, a
lot of teenagers, a lot of all. The truth of
the matter is I have two teenagers, and so they've
heard all the words, yes, but even so have your
kids heard all the words?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
How old are your kids now?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Man Bradley turned ten yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was the big, big double digit birthday, and the
twins are seven. He has definitely heard a lot more
of the words like we've had to deal with the
F bomb in the last six months.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That was like a big from him.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Did he say it?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, no, no, he didn't say it, but he heard it
and he knew it was a bad word, and it
was like one of those like how do we navigate
this one kind of moment?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I do remember, bizarrely enough, in fifth grade hearing that
and this was not true, but hearing that a boy
named Rod f't and that was the word they used,
a girl named Marie And by the way, fifth graders were.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Not doing that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But I literally came home crying, like I actually remember
this in fifth grade. I was like I didn't even
fully understood stand what it meant, but it upset me.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, No, we had to deal with
the full It was like the full breakdown.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Why would someone say this and it was bad? It
was one of.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Those someone said it to him or what was the context.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He heard it? It's from there was a group of
kids that were a little older. They were on the
golf course and.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It was one years old. Is what grade?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Second? Going to third?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So and look, you know he went to the same
school you went to so like, that's not a word
you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It turns out people say and do bad things at
Christian schools just like every other place on earth.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, okay. So he's in second grade and he hears
the F bomb.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And he comes to me. He's like, hey, Dad, I
heard a word. I think it's really really bad. How
bad is it? And I was like, well, what was
the word you heard? He said, Please don't tell mom,
and I said I I okay, I like.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Ben, let me say, as a fellow dad, let me
just get props to you that your son is coming
to you telling you that that's actually really cool. Yeah, like, look, look,
every kid's going to experience this. You can't put them
in a cocoon, you can't isolate them. But I'm glad
he like comes and raises it with you that that's
well done on the dead front.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It was one of those moments and he was like,
don't tell mom. I was like, well, whine he goes,
because then she'll never let me play golf with them again.
And I was like, you're a smart kid, Like you're
a smart like you understood the dynamic of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It was yeah, I told him. I was like, you
don't say it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I told I did the I did the We don't
say it for multiple reasons. But you don't want to
be looked as an uneducated idiot like they are.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's how.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But by the way, I will say with teenagers also
like like if you listen to like sort of rap
songs and modern music where they drop curse words and
f poms, and it's you know, you're trying to like
our girls are fifteen and eighteen, so you're trying to
they've heard the words. They unfortunately sometimes use them. We
try to get them not to, but like they'll play
(04:55):
music and they're just dropping f pom after f pom
and I'm like, I really don't like this, Like could
you like speak like a civilized human being. And they're like, Dad,
we don't even listen to the lyrics. We don't know
what they are. And I'm like, yeah, I know what
they are. I'm listening. That's what they're saying. And so
getting back to politics and substances, people are like, okay,
(05:17):
we're hearing like the therapy reports of two dads.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Dealing with their kids. There's also a therapy report.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Like what the heck is happening with the Democrat Party. Yeah,
like this guy L said, all right, a liberal Democrat.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
There are lots of those.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, you have someone wants higher taxes. Okay, I
don't like that. You know, you have someone who has
all sorts of stupid views open borders, even that, that's terrible.
It's bad for America, it's bad for the world. But
all the Democrats support that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah, Medicaid for all, you can go through that.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's like, yeah, look, this is a communist takeover of
the Democrat Party. And I don't use that phrase as exaggeration.
It's not hyperbole. I want to break down what it
is because I think it is really, really dangerous for America.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, it really really is. And by the way, we
talk about this a lot. The stakes could not be
higher than they are right now. And we finally have
a president and administration fighting hard for America first. But
if conservatives like you and I lose focus, now, the
same people who created this mess, they're ready and they're
waiting to resume their destructive progressive agendas.
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Speaker 1 (07:52):
All right, so let's let's go back to this race
in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think the big takeaway for me center is this
the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
We've been saying it it's dead.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The communists, the Marxist the socialists, yet again have proven
they have taken over. This is not San Francisco, this
is not Manhattan. This is a swing state that Donald
Trump has won. And you had a very big debate
there between a establishment elected Democrat who is not exactly
like a moderate Democrat, more liberal Democrat against a full
(08:26):
blown socialist, by the way, an individual that's a huge
anti Semite. There were countless warning signs, and the voters there.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Said, yeah, we like this. This is now nationwide a problem.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So look, I don't want to overstate it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I don't know that the Democrat Party is dead, but
I do think it is at risk of dying.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think we are seeing a communist takeover of the
Democrat Party. We saw it with Comrade Mondami, who is
an ow right Marxist. He's not a socialist. Don't use
the language of Democrats socialist. He is a Marxist. He
believes in seizing the means of production and having government takeover.
He is an outright communist.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Private property, he's been on the record talking about that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Recently, polishing private property, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, being able to seize it and taking things away
from the rich.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And Mandami and by the way, when he says the rich,
he means everyone like the rich, and never means the rich.
He means the middle class because that's where all the
money is, and so that's so they go after. But look,
Mandami has endorsed a series of other communists. We had
three primaries in New York and all the communists won
and beat long time incumbent Democrats. We had another communist
(09:42):
win Colorado. We have this communist in Michigan who is
right now winning we don't know the exact result. We
have another communist who is likely to be the Democrat
nominee for governor in Wisconsin, about as purple a state
as you can find. And the pattern across the board
is they are resurgent. That's where the money is, that's
(10:05):
where the energy is.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
In the party. That's where the young people are.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
The young people are overwhelmingly embracing socialism, Marxism, communism, and
the rest of the Democrats. Look, I serve with forty
seven Democrats in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, most of them would.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Say I'm not a communist, and they're not fully there,
but they are terrified. Every single Democrat in the Senate,
and I assume that's true in the House as well,
is utterly afraid that they're going to be primaried by
some communists in their primary. And they've seen other Democrats
(10:42):
lose in their primaries. And the one huge exception is
John Fetterman, John fetter And it's like Sherlock Holmes and
the Hound of the Baskerville's and the dog that did
not bark. The fact that Fetterman is the one example
makes the silence of every other Democrat so screamingly loud.
(11:05):
They are the dogs that are not barking. Other than Fetterman,
I do not know another Democrat who is saying this
will not stand. We are not a communist party. And
look what does the DSA stand for. Listen to them,
Listen to their own platform, Listen to what they say
they want to rip the Constitution to threads. They want
(11:26):
to abolish the United States Senate.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I don't know why l.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Sied is running for the Senate because he wants to
abolish the institution he's running for. They want to make
the president subservient to the House representatives. They want to
make the Supreme Court subservient to the House representatives. What
does that mean? It means the House becomes like the
polit Borough. It becomes the instrument of government power. What
does it mean when you make the Supreme Court subservient
(11:50):
to the House.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It means you no longer.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Have a judiciary that enforces rights, that enforces the Bill
of Rights. It means you don't have a free speech right,
you don't have a religious liberty right, you don't have
a Second Amendment right. It means that the pollet Bureau,
which they call the House, has total power to take
away your rights and there is no check in balance
because whatever they the government want to do, that's what
(12:16):
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Speaker 2 (13:06):
You look at these results, and let's just move into
Mundami and what is happening right now in New York.
If they if they gain power and they get in
positions of power, you now have a playbook of what
they're going to do with that power. Look at what
Mandani has done, and now we have another example of this,
even with his with his communist grocery stores. What's even
(13:29):
so funny about these grocery stores is he was asked
a question about these grocery store center and I'm sure
you saw this. It's gone viral where they're like, hey,
how do you going to police people coming in from
maybe outside of New York City to go these grocery
stores to buy these groceries at a reduced rate and IDs.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, id's yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
We just make sure they hold up their idea and
they show us that they actually live in New York City.
So you can vote in the election without showing an idea,
but you can't get your communist groceries without an eye.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
That is democrat logic.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
If you want to vote, you don't need an ID.
In fact, we're going to stop anyone from asking for
an ID. If you want to buy government lettuce, show
me a damn ID U thief?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, how is that? Not, by the way, racist?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because they said showing an ID was a form of
racism and yet to show an ID to buy milk
or eggs, that's not racist. I'm confused on their definition
of racism now.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And by the way, I want to read a thread
from a guy named Nick Konnas who is in the
grocery business, and it was actually a very interesting thread
that I read on Twitter. He said, I downloaded and
reviewed NYC's grocery store RFP as someone.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Who's built businesses and bought a lot of food.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Wow, forget for a moment whether the government should own
a grocery store.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Let's review the doc instead, let's here we go.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And by the way, for pure that don't know, RIP
is a request for a proposal. New York has put
out to the public these requests for proposals for people
that would want to run these communist grocery stores for them.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So NYC strongly prefers bidders who commit to all five stores.
There are going to be five government run grocery stores,
but three of the five sites haven't been identified. Bidders
are supposed to price unknown stores in unknown neighborhoods by
assuming their quote about fifteen thousand square feet, so you
(15:20):
don't know where it is, you don't know what's going on,
but you want to price it. Bidders get preference for
operating all five stores, presumably because scale lowers cost, but
New York City awards each store separately, so an all
five bidder may win only one they want scale pricing
while refusing to award scale. The scores must use a
(15:45):
limited SKU model. They must also carry full grocery departments,
household goods, culturally specific products, plus kosher, hallal, vegan, gluten
free dairy free and diabetic options makes sense. The the
RFP says stores won't have deli counters or on site
food prep, then it's core basket includes chicken, salad, eggs,
(16:08):
potato salad, fruit salad, and other deli prepared foods. So
a deli without a deli yeah, Oh, and you're going
to ship them in every day prepared, gotcha. NYC chooses
and pays for the design, equipment, refrigeration, and fit out.
The operator pays utilities, maintenance, cleaning, and security. So NYC
(16:30):
makes the capital decisions, will somebody else pays for the consequences.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That's how they control the goalposts.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The best quote unquote bid promises thirty percent discounts, best
in class wages and benefits, local sourcing, sustainability, community programs,
and full time jobs. Then twenty percent of the score
goes to whoever claims they need the least subsidy. Low
Balling is the strategy, and then cost overrun are guaranteed.
(17:02):
Core basket discounts must be universal quote sticker prices, not promotions.
Then the operator must create a membership card to quote
implement a discount program, which is it universal shelf price
or an ID card system by the way, also says
it's available to all people, and it doesn't even.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Properly target their goals.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Because the subsidy isn't targeted, no means tests anyone could
shop there, So taxpayers will subsidize groceries for affluent shoppers
who happen to live nearby, while needy families elsewhere get zero.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I always thought this was a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
They could much better help people with money, and hey,
there are already programs that they could expand. But after
reading now I know it's a ridiculous idea. We have
an efficient system, just change the outcomes. So naturally one
asks why would they want to build crappy grocery stores.
(18:06):
There's that tenpenny word again, that have conflicting goals and
will be mismanaged because either that's their goal or else
they have no idea how actually to craft an RFP
a run a business. Perhaps my favorite page that I
had not included my original thread is just chef's kiss amazing.
(18:30):
How could you possibly estimate such a thing and such
a level of detail requested? You might want additional spreadsheets,
And then there's a spreadsheet that estimates the sales cost
core basket items, the sales cost non core basket items,
the cost of good souls, the cost of personnel, the
cost of other operational cost programmatic.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Like it is.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
These are idiots who've never run a business, who don't
know how to run a business, who are like, let's
give away a bunch of free crap. Let's order people
to give away free crap. Let's not actually think about
how they get the stuff to give away. And isn't
this awesome? We're communists, Yeah, there is a reason. Do
(19:16):
you remember the moment the Soviet Union fell?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I remember vividly being at my grandfather's house watching the
Berlin Wall come down, and I remember my grandfather getting
a piece of that Berlin wall. That was my most
vivid memories a kid of like watching everything kind of
fall into place.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
If you said, what was that moment, that would be
the moment for me.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So I will tell you there was a moment at
the time when the Soviet Union was collapsing. You were
not a Texan. You were up in Memphis, you were
not living in Texas.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
You may remember in the nineteen nineties Boris Yeltson visited Texas.
He visited Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh, and I've watched those videos of him going to
the grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And he went to a Randall's grocery store store and
he walked down the aisles and he saw like dozens
and hundreds of choices frozen food and vegetables and everything.
And he looked at amazement because the Soviet grocery store,
you had one type of bread, you had one type
of soup, one type of meat, like whatever you had.
(20:19):
You had no choices. And he looked at that and
there was a moment when he realized communism can never
compete with free enterprise. Yep, Mandami is literally saying, give
us the Soviet model.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, and we think it'll work.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And here's my other question over under on getting a
legitimate company, not like political propaganda BS, but a legitimate
company to actually try to run these grocery stores. Do
you think that they're going to get these requests for
proposals that aren't you know already the deb You know
you're playing the game where it's a genuine grocery's Like, Yep,
(20:59):
I can do this, and I want to do this
business model. I think it can make money. I don't
think anybody would do it.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I don't know how you do business on that. These
grocery stores are going to go broke, They're going to
have shortages.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
They are requiring IDs, which is the most laughable.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
The Democrat part is fully vested in saying IDs are horrible, racist,
evil things, and they're requiring IDs.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
To shop at the grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And this is going to be And by the way,
if they succeeded, they would drive out of business the bodegas.
If you're a small Hispanic business owner, the Democrats want
to bankrupt you. And look, I want you to listen. Listen,
for example, to Van Jones, who is a very left
(21:47):
wing commentator. Listen to him talking about the Communist Party
the Democrat Party, give a listen.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Now, before we get to that, I do want to
talk to you real quick about how you can get
involved and pray for the people that are in desperate
need right now in Israel. The headlines they may change,
the threats facing Israel, they remain. And while much of
the world has moved on from that story of Israel
being under attack to the next one, Israeli families they
(22:14):
continue living with the reality of terrorism, uncertainty, and recovery now,
communities they remain on alert. Parents still think twice before
sending their children back to school, and families continue rebuilding
their lives, knowing the next siren could come without warning.
As Christians were called to stand with God's children in
(22:35):
times of need, just like it is right now. And
that's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews remains
on the ground in the Holy Land each and every day,
and they're providing life saving aid, food for struggling families,
emergency assistants, even bomb shelters, and critical support for those
impacted by this war. Even after the cameras leave and
(22:57):
the headlines fade, the Fellowship remains committed to Israel's most vulnerable.
And that's why I'm asking to join the International Fellowship
of Christians and Jews in simply praying for the people
of Israel, for their protection, for their strength, and for
a lasting peace, because together we can remind God's people
that they are not alone. If you want to know
(23:17):
what to pray for, you can go right now and
stand with Israel and prayer by visiting pray IFCJ dot org.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's prey IFCJ dot org. Okay Van Jones. What are
the stakes here for Democrats?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Look, this is the whole ball of wax. I'm from Jackson, Tennessee.
There's a guy named gil Scott Heron, I who had
a great poem. It was called the Revolution will not
be televised. Gil Scott Heron is wrong. The revolution is
being televised and podcasts and streamed and elected tonight.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Why is that.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
It's because there is a credibility gap that's opened up
between the Democratic Party establishment and this insurgency. People are
looking at people and they're saying, you've been telling us
the same thing for a long time, and our lives
are not eating better. We got Donald Trump twice. There's
also an innovation gap. Why can you spend sixty million
dollars and get woo like this? Because the old model
(24:20):
was you get the donors to get the consultants to
buy a bunch of ads, and you win. That's how
you get attention. This movement says, I don't need donors, ads,
I don't need consultants. I'm going right to the people
with TikTok and grassroots, and they've disintermediated the entire donor class,
mediated the entire consulting class, and this is a revolution,
(24:41):
and so this is going to happen again and again.
The Democratic Party is now Blockbuster, These kids are Netflix.
We are selling CDs out the trunk. This is a
napster becoming Spotify, and it's happened in the night.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
By the way, I'm trying to figure out exactly what
Van Jones is saying there is a tear or is
he just saying I guess I gotta get on board
with this center, Like, which one is it? That was
a weird way of putting it, because it's like, is
he saying that's a mistake or is he saying, well,
this is.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The reality, so we better just get on board with it.
What is it? I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I think it's more of the former.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think Van is My read on that is that
he's being courageous and saying this is a dangerous thing
that is happening. But he's also saying what I said
at the beginning of this podcast, this is the energy,
this is the heart, this is where the Democrat Party
is and it's driving it forward. All right here, I
want you to listen to Francesca Honk. For Francesca Hank
(25:38):
is likely to be the Democrat nominee to be governor
of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a purple state. Donald Trump carried
Wisconsin in twenty twenty four. Wisconsin is elected. It has
a Republican Senator, Ron Johnson is elected numerous Republican governors.
Francesca Han is a full on communist.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But I want to listen.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I want you to listen to her on CNN pplaining
why she hates Thanksgiving and wants to cancel Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Care give a listen.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
One thing that they brought up as well was a
post from you in twenty twenty one where you said
Americans should cancel Thanksgiving. Should have done this in sixteen
twenty one. The post has been deleted. Republicans have been
highlighting it. Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I'm a chef and one of the first meals that
I made that was for the community when I was sixteen,
was a Thanksgiving meal.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
I always think my hospitality background in owning a restaurant
for seven eight years, that bringing folks around the table
to share conversation and build community is always a good thing.
But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for
many people in our communities, and so I think there
I wanted to make sure that people understood that there
(26:56):
are multiple views, but views can evolve and the position
that I'm running for right now, and I think my
background as a chef will actually help me become a
better governor that's able to bring more people to the table.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That is one heck of a sales pitch right there, Senator.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
So that was Caitlyn Collins let CNN.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
She asked the question, and if you're not watching this
on YouTube or on video, you need to watch Caitlyn
Collins eyes because she's listening to her. She asked the question, Hey,
you're running for governor Wisconsin. Do you still want to
cancel Thanksgiving? And it's clear Caitlyn Collins wants her to say, no,
(27:37):
I love Thanksgiving like America is great. No, we don't
want to cancel Thanksgiving. Yeah, And Francesca Hung is like no, no, no,
there's much many people who are horrified by Thanksgiving and
the hate America and those are my people.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So I'm not going to say that I'm a chef.
You know, I once made a Thanksgiving meal like like.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's the most I got to say that clip if
sat Live was willing to make fun of leftists. Yeah,
that's perfectly spreaded, It's perfectly cast.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Do you want to cancel and understand?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So these communists, they hate capitalism, they hate property rights,
they hate the Constitution, they hate free speech, they hate
religious liberty, they hate the Second Amendment.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
They hate America. Gives me no joy to say that.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, they think America is an evil, repressive, racist, oppressive.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Place and they want to destroy it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And so look that communist hates Thanksgiving. You know what
she also hates and I don't even need to ask.
She hates the fourth of July. She hates Christmas.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
She hates Easter. Oh, god knows, she hates Easter. I
think they're two holiday.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
She likes June tenth and kwansa yeah and even no, no, no, okay,
hold on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I made a major mistake. May Day.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
May Day the time to celebrate communists takeovers and oppression
that she supports. But everything about America. By the way,
if you are a Christian, she hates you. If you're
a Jew, she hates you. If you are in business,
she hates you. If you love America, she hates you.
(29:29):
And the same is true with El Sayed, the same
is true with Mondami, these communists, And this is something
I've said in a number.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Of TV interviews.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Look, there are Republicans who are right now beating their
chests and say this is great. The Democrat Party is
going Craig Ray, so we're going to win in November.
Because they're so extreme, we're gonna win. I am not
celebrating this. Look, history shows there's a pendulum to politics. Yes,
fortunaten'tly the Democrats will win again. I wish they wouldn't.
(30:03):
I don't want them to. But there is going to
be another Democrat president yea. And I would like both
national parties to be normal people who are not frigging insane. Yes,
like when there's the next Democrat president, and I hope
I would be thrilled if that doesn't happen in our lifetime,
but it will. I would like the next Democrat president
(30:27):
not to be a communist who hates America. And what
is happening to the Democrat Party? Is there other than
John Fetterman, Is there one Democrat willing to say no,
we will not let our party be taken over.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And by the way, in the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm standing up and saying to the anti Semites that
are trying to take over our party, no, we will
not be a Jew hating Israel hating, anti capitalist, anti
American party. Get the hell out of our party. If
that's who you are, you're not welcome. I'm doing that
in our party other than John Fetterman. Is there one
Democrat doing it that in the party.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, they're all terrified. We're gonna keep exposing them. We're
gonna keep watching them. Don't forget. We do the show Monday,
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