1. Zohran Mamdani and his New York City DSA Policies
- A city database published names and addresses of owners of certain high-value properties.
- The hosts characterize this as "doxxing" and argue it could expose property owners to harassment or threats.
- Mamdani's proposal for city-run grocery stores selling goods below typical market prices is criticized as a socialist or communist policy.
- Ted and Ben argue that government-run stores could:
- Undercut private grocery stores and bodegas.
- Reduce competition.
- Lead to shortages and inefficiencies.
- They expand into broader concerns about socialism, communism, and the direction of the Democratic Party.
Political Analysis of the Democratic Party
- The influence of progressive and democratic socialist politicians.
- Figures such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer, and Gavin Newsom.
- Predictions about future Democratic leadership and elections.
- Concerns that more progressive candidates could gain greater influence within the party.
2. Anthony Fauci and COVID-19
- Fauci privately acknowledged influencing school closures and lockdown decisions during the COVID-19 pandemic.
- His private notes allegedly contradict some of his later public statements and congressional testimony.
- He knew early that the Wuhan seafood market might not have been the original source of COVID-19.
- He attempted to protect himself and his reputation regarding questions about:
- School closures.
- Lockdowns.
- The origins of COVID-19.
- Gain-of-function research.
Ted and Bedn characterize Fauci as:
- A narcissist.
- Media-focused.
- Dishonest in his public communications during the pandemic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, I am so excited to
hear that you've decided to get behind free groceries. I
just want to know when can I get my free
groceries from you?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
What borough is it going to be in?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And how long until we never have to pay for
groceries again? Because this is now what we're up against
with the Communist Party in America.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, Ben, I will say that there are consequences to
communists coming to part power. And look the Democrats who
are winning, the people who are taking over the Democrat Party,
they're not socialists, they're not liberals, they're not progressives.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
They are Marxists.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, Comrade Mondami is an absolute Marxist. So two things
that happened this week that illustrate what happens when communists
take over.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This week, the New York City government docked hundreds of
thousands of New Yorkers. So Mondami published a list of
every New Yorker with their name and their home address,
who he says owns a pietaire who owns a million
dollar or more home in New York and doesn't live
(01:11):
in New York. By the way, many of the people
who are on that list say they do live in
New York full time. But this list, which is published
with full names with full home addresses, is designed for
one purpose. It's designed so that leftist radicals will harass,
will threaten, and indeed will even commit acts of violence
(01:31):
against them. At the same time, Mondami announced that he's
going to open five government run grocery stores where they
are going to sell food for thirty percent below the
market rate, which is going to effectively drive out of
business the private grocery stores in New York City.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We're going to break down both of those because this is.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Not let's have a little bit higher taxes, let's have
a little bit more welfare. This is the government number one,
targeting the enemies of the state and using violence and
intimidation to go after them, and number two moving towards
government seizure and control of private industry.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
We're gonna break all that down today.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, it really is incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I also want to ask you to take a moment
and I'm pray for the people of Israel with me.
There are so many prayers that are needed right now
for those that are in pain and suffering in Israel,
and they are constantly still under attack and under threat.
The headlines they may move on, the reporters may move
on to the next big story, but the heartache and
(02:39):
the terror they do not. Iran and as Terras proxies
are continuing to target Israel as we speak. Hesblat continues
its attacks in the north, forcing families to live under
constant threat. Now Israel is not only just defending her people,
she is standing on the front lines against terror that
threatens all of us. And that is why I want
(02:59):
to ask you to join me and helping pray for the.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
People of Israel.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews they have remained
there even after the news cruise have left, and every
day they are on the ground. They're providing life saving
aid near Israel's border with Lebanon. Just recently, Hesbladrone struck
the home of Yolina, she was widowed earlier this year,
living alone, she was trapped inside by that blast. Now,
(03:24):
thankfully she was not injured, but she did remain displaced
and as she described it, it's hard these days, but
I don't want to leave and why should she? As
Christians were called to stand with God's people and pray
for those defending Israel and protecting their freedoms. We hold
dear and that's why I want you to join the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and praying for the
(03:45):
peace of Jerusalem and for the soldiers, families and civilians
carrying the burden of this fight. Right now, How do
you find out who you can pray for and what
their needs are? Go to pray IFCJ dot org. That is,
pray a IFCJ dot org. PRAYIFCJ dot org. All right,
so Center, let's start with this doxing list that you
(04:07):
brought up a moment ago. Very interesting lists. I've been
on one of these lists before to dox me.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
There was a kid that made a clock it looked
like a bomb. It happened in Texas. They filed a lawsuit,
they published our home address. We had to move out
of our house. As the FBI described, there were so
many credible threats. This is no different than that. What
they did was they said, here's a list of people.
They are evil, they have money, they live in a
place of more than a million dollars. We want you
(04:36):
to harass and target them. So they will feel unsafe.
And by the way, this is very close and eerie
to the same type of violence we saw against that
healthcare ceo, where people celebrated that that healthcare ceo was
assassinated on the streets of New York. You would think
they would have learned from that, But this is now
being done by the leader of New York Mandani.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So we have a lot of listeners to this podcast
or in New York, and if you're on this list,
I'm sorry, But for everyone else outside of New York,
I want to think how you would feel if you
have this newly elected communist mayor who publishes a list
of essentially ungrateful millionaires who don't pay their fair share,
(05:16):
and your name is there, and your home address is there,
and that is designed to send harassment your way and
to send threats of physical violence. Here's what the New
York Post reported. Mamdani publishes names and addresses of all
NYC property owners who could be hit with the new
Pieta tear tax. Mayor zoa On Mandami's administration has published
a searchable database of Big Apple properties that could fall
(05:40):
under the state's new.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Pea tare tax.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Effectively docsing thousands of wealthy New Yorkers. The city's Department
of Finance uploaded the comprehensive list, which purports to cover
all unoccupied non primary residences in the five Boroughs worth
north of one million dollars, including the full names and addresses.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Of every property owner. Quote.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's a reckless and foolish move, especially considering there are
potentially thousands of properties on that list that do not
qualify as second homes or whose owners will successfully dispute
their inclusion. Council Minority leader David Carr, Republican of Staten Island,
whose own home appears on the list, told the Post
on Monday. The move follows a widely panned ex post
(06:25):
by the mayor in which he put wealthy residents on
notice to quote check your mailbox when you're back in
the Five Boroughs because you've got mail a warning that
notification letters were on their way. This is understand This
is the strategy that communists do.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
They want to drive.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Just look Mondommie started out by going after Ken Griffin
by demonizing him.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Here the Citadel CEO. So if you understand a man
that has built a head spun. It's massive and moved
a lot of his offices by the way down to
Miami to get out of New York.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This exact insanity.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And Griffin had invested billions of dollars in New York.
He had thousands of employees in New York. And Mondamie
did a video as the elected mayor attacking him, how
dare you have an apartment in New York even though
you don't live here full time?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Griffin understandably he was planning on expanding operations in New
York City. He said, you know what, I'm not going
to do so, so if you want jobs in New York, well,
guess what, You're mayor don't want you have jobs in
New York. But it didn't just stop with Ken Griffin.
It wasn't just you know, it's always the radical left
they say, oh, it's just the billionaires. This list had
(07:40):
nine hundred and sixty thousand names and addresses on it.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
This is much broader.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Like when this tax was announced, they said, oh, it'll
just be a handful of people, it won't be you. Yeah,
and yet this is a massive list. And you know,
I suppose you could be a devil's advocate and say, well,
they didn't intend it to be that way. Look the
example you gave of the United Healthcare CEO was murdered,
(08:07):
shot in the back of the head. The left celebrated
that murder.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, you had.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Leftists cheering it. You have leftists wearing t shirts of
the murderer.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
With his face.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You have idiots who are tattooing the guy's face on
their bodies. Yeah, because they're so proud that he murdered
her a CEO. This list, tragically, is certain to result
in harassment and may well result in violence. And Mondamie
is perfectly okay with that. He wants to drive these
(08:41):
people from New York. If you do not support him,
he wants you out of New York. That is not
new and it's one of the points. Look, communism is
you know, when you say there's a communist takeover the
Democrat Party to a person that doesn't play close attention
to politics, that sounds extreme, That sounds radical. Come on,
(09:04):
that can't possibly be real. That is, in fact what's happening.
And understand, communism is not something abstract and theoretical. Look,
my family fled Cuba. My father was in prison and
tortured in Cuba. My aunt Mike Thea Sonya, who we've
had on Verdict as a guest on Verdict. She was
imprisoned and tortured by Castro's goons. If you look at
(09:28):
communism everywhere it's been implemented, whether you're talking about Cuba
or China, or Vietnam or North Korea or the Soviet
Union or Venezuela, it produces misery, It produces poverty, it
produces murder, torture, oppression. And one of the things to understand,
by the way, do you know who does own a panitara, which,
(09:50):
by the way, is not a term I use. It's
kind of weird that I keep using this weird French term.
You know who does own one?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Whew?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That would be comrade Munday. I mean he has this
luxurious estate in Uganda because he comes from money himself.
But the understand that's not unusual. Fidel Castro was a billionaire.
Yep Putin is a billionaire. In communist dictatorships, the communists
(10:23):
have all the money and have all the power, and
so this effort to demonize and attack capitalists is deliberate
and it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, not only is it dangerous, I also think there's
a there's a method to this madness that I want
people to understand. This is how you gain power and
control if you're Mindani. If you push all the people
out that have the resources and the intellect to actually
challenge you on these things, and you make life for
(10:54):
them so miserable where they finally just say, I have
the resources to get out of here, I don't have
to anymore. Then by default, that gives Mandani even more security.
He didn't have to worry about massive donations coming in
against them. They don't have to worry about another Democrat
that might actually be saying that runs against him and
beats them. We have witnessed this, by the way, happen
(11:15):
all over the country in high crime, high poverty, failing
cities in America, where people are like, why do they
keep electing these people right over.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And over again.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Minneapolis turned into Mogadishu. It was a Somali invasion. The
Democrats sold the city to Somali fraudsters and criminals. Regular
verdict listers will know the answer to this. Who is
the single largest donor to Al Shabab, which is the
radical Islamic terror group in Somalia and the taxpayers of Minnesota.
(11:47):
It was literally the fraud was so blatant, and the
Democrats signed off on it. They facilitated it, They profited
from it, they got elected from it, they took campaign
donations from it. Mandami's effort here is to lock in control,
to drive out anyone who opposes him. But by the way,
you might think, Okay, I'm not a billionaire. You might
think even I'm not a millionaire, so what does it
(12:07):
concern me? This week he also had had another announcement.
He had an announcement at about grocery stores. I want
you to listen to what he had to say about
grocery stores.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Here's how it will work.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will
set prices for this core set of goods at thirty
percent below typical retail prices, no exceptions, no gimmicks. The
savings will last for the entire month. That means no
weekly fluctuations, nor stick a shock at the checkout line.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's simple. Why don't we just do this all over
the country center right?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Who needs? You know?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
This is a no brainer. We can just fix prices.
The prices never functuate. We force the prices down. They
make it sound like it is so easy, and if
it was this easy.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
By the way, did it works. A lot of people
don't realize this.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Grocery stores margins on the goods they sell are usually
about one and a half percent total. Like if you
go to a growrocery store chain, they're not making twenty
thirty percent on groceries they sell you.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It is extremely thin margins.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If you do a really good job, as one grocery
store executive told me a couple of years ago, you
might hit two and a half to three percent. So
if you're paying a dollar for something, they paid ninety
seven cents for it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
To put in perspective and listen, a couple of things
are gonna happen. So you're gonna have five city run
grocery stores. They're gonna set prices thirty percent below cost.
So one of the things that's gonna happen is people
are gonna come in and buy those those goods at
those lower costs. They're gonna run out. They're gonna be
empty shelves. By the way, the media is not going
(13:38):
to show you the empty shells, but they're gonna run out.
And by the way, you see that in the Soviet Union,
you see that in communist countries where where the government
run grocery stores have empty shelves, because it turns out
government planners are not very good at deciding and figuring
out what people want. And so if bananas are thirty
(14:01):
percent cheaper at the government run in the grocery store,
they're gonna run.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Out of banas. They're gonna be no business.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But secondly, let's assume that Mandami is spectacularly good, that
he just orders so much food that they don't run out.
What is the effect going to be. Let's suppose you
run a grocery store down the street. If you're running
a grocery store and Mandami stores selling all of their
food at thirty percent below cost, there's no way for
(14:27):
you to compete with that. You don't have the ability.
If you're paying cost, you can't sell it for thirty
percent less than cost. And so if he continues this,
you're gonna go out of business. And understand, this is
not just giant, wealthy capitalist grocery stores, and there aren't
necessarily all that many giant, wealthy capitalist grocery stores. We're
(14:48):
talking bodegas, We're talking like little grocery stores that are
owned many of them have Hispanic owners, many of them
are immigrants. If you're selling, you know, you got a
little bodega, You've got some milk, you've got some eggs,
you've got you know, you've got kind of different Yeah,
you've got different necessities.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
People in the neighborhood come by.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well, you know what if milk at Mandami's government run
grocery store is thirty percent less, then you can buy
it for Yeah, the bodegas are going out of business.
And understand this is part of the communist agenda as well.
It's a drive out their opponents, but it's also to
destroy private enterprise, to destroy small businesses, the bodegas. Remember
(15:30):
we had just a week or two we played this
on the podcast where one of the heads of the
DSA in New York was asked about the margin in
bodega's and he said, well, look, if you can't, if
you have to charge such high prices, maybe those bodegas
just shouldn't be in business at all. That they want
to drive these people out of business. And the objective
(15:50):
which the DSA is telling us is for the government
to be in charge of all of private enterprise in
charge of every business, to be the employer, to be,
the store, to be. And you know, I actually had
some fun tweeting out today saying, Mandami in five years
(16:11):
when he visits another town, and I showed the image
of Boris Yeltsen when he visited You're in my hometown
of Houston, and he went to a grocery store and
he was totally blown away at the incredible array of
diversity and choices. And it's actually what helped convince him
that the Soviets could not win the Cold War. That
(16:31):
if we had forty different kinds of ice cream and
they had one kind of ice cream and they were
out of it in the Soviet Union, that they were
not going to compete. That the marketplace works in Mandami.
He doesn't understand that, and he doesn't care. He is
saying the government is going to be in charge of
every aspect of your life.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's dangerous. And I want to underscore.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
There's some Republicans who are celebrating, saying, oh, this is great. Okay,
the Democrats have gone so crazy that they're gonna be unelectable,
and that's good for Republicans.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We're going to win I am not in that camp.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I I've changed on this, by the way, I was
one of those early on that was like, I love
having an AOC. I haven't said to you once and
said I would actually give money to keep her in office,
tongue in cheek because she would say the crazy things
that Democrats actually believe out loud, and she was a
useful idiot in that way. Now I'm as concerned as
you are about this, that this is now turning into
(17:32):
a cancer, and how do you stop it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Look, we have two major political parties in this country.
I would like two parties that are somewhat sane, relatively normal.
We can have differences, okay, Republicans want lower taxes, Democrats
want higher taxes.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean we can have differences on you know, Republicans
are pro life, Democrats or pro choice. Okay, there are
differences that you can have in the arena of political
discs course and go back and forth.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I don't want one of our.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Two major political parties to be a communist party that
is outright nuts. And that's what's and by the way,
that's not all the Democrat party. Look, listen, in the
Senate they're no more than a handful of Democrat senators
who I would say right now are Marxists. You've got
the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warrens, who, by the way,
(18:23):
are recruiting these communists and they're celebrating. And when Elizabeth
Warren looks at a Nazi, communist, misogynist, oyster farmer and
says he's my kind of guy, well, she's telling you
the truth. That is her kind of guy. But most
of the Democrats in the Senate are not yet communists,
but every one of them are terrified of the Communists.
(18:44):
It's that radical left that has them scared.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And by the way, when you say they're they're they're terrified,
it's because they're afraid of losing power.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Of course, they're terrified.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
They're afraid, yes, primary they're afraid of losing her job
to a social slash communist slash Marxist candidate. And this
goes back to the original fear with aoc Chuck Schumer.
I have never seen a man capitulate more than I
have with him in the last couple of years, because
he's so afraid, as you described it perfectly, that they
(19:16):
were going to get rid of him the leader of
the Democratic Party and replace him with AOC in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I believe it is one hundred percent that Chuck Schumer
cannot win another primary in the Democrat Party in New York,
and I think he's gradually coming to realize that.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
He was terrified that AOC was going to primary him.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I've joked that Schumer was going to be the inaugural
member of the AOC for president campaign.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's actually not a joke. Look, I think AOC.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Will run for president save his own tail.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I think she is one of the two front runners
for president of the Democrat side. I think it's AOC
and Gavin Newsom. That is two front runners. But I've
also predicted I think Mandami will be the next Democrat
Senator from New York.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I do not think Schumer.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
My guess is Schumer won't even run because he can't
run because the party, particularly in New York. But it's
a cancer spreading the rest of the country has gone crazy,
and listen, New York is the largest city in America.
My heart grieves that New York is an incredibly important
part of our country and to see it run by
(20:20):
an outright communist is really dangerous, and I'm sorry to
say there will come another Democrat who's elected president.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I wish there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I would like that never to happen, but if history
is any guide, it will happen. I don't want the
next Democrat president to be an outright communist, and I
think the odds of that happening have increased exponentially because
they're engaged in a hostile taker of the Democrat Party.
And other than John Fetterman, who's been heroic in fighting
(20:50):
back on this, almost no other Democrat is even willing
to fight back on these lunatics.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, talking about lunatics, I got to get to this
other big story that deals with Anthony Fuci.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I've never said this before to Anthony Fauci, but thank
you for keeping a really, really good diary, because now
we have his record of what he was worried about
during COVID when it was exploding, and it all went
back to what I would describe as psychotic narcissism. He
(21:22):
was obsessed with being famous, He loved being the center
of attention. He also, I think clearly knew that, and
there's new accusations out that he was lying about the
side effects of COVID nineteen vaccines, some of which apparently
affected him personally, but he did not disclose to the public.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Look, Fauci is the single most dangerous bureaucrat in American history.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He's a megal and maniac.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He loved the press, and he was willing to implement
policies that hurt Americans, and he was willing to lie. So,
for example, Fauci played a critical role in shutting down
schools all across America. Yeah, now, when America saw devastating
results we have witnessed. I actually think a decade or
two from now, people will look back at the school
(22:06):
shutdowns during COVID and marvel at what an idiotic policy
this country pursued. A sort of mass psychosis. We have
seen in the day to demonstrate this, the largest learning
loss in recorded history since we began measuring the learning
of our students. The biggest learning loss came from the
(22:27):
COVID shutdowns. And by the way, the racial gap, the
gap between black and white students, the gap between Hispanic
and white students grew more than the during the COVID lockdowns,
again than any time since since it's been recorded. Now
Once it became ir irrefutable that the schools shutdowns were
a travesty, a disaster, Fauci's tried to back away and say, oh,
(22:52):
I didn't ask for the schools to be shut down. Well,
a number of his private diary entries have been released.
Here's that's what he wrote on March fifteenth, twenty twenty.
So this is pretty early in the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
He writes, quote big day. It's written in red letters.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I spoke with Bill Deblasio, Mayor New York City, and
convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly and
my conversations tonight, to close the New York City schools.
He had already decided based on what I was saying
on TV. That's what he said is private notes in March.
By the way, he said the same thing quote. I
had a similar call with Ann O'Leary, the chief of
(23:31):
staff of Governor Gavin Newsom in California. Ann said that
based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor
has decided to close the schools in California, as well
as the bars and the restaurants. Now seven months later,
October sixteenth, twenty twenty, ABC News is interviewing Fauci and
(23:53):
he denies he had any role in the lockdowns. He says, quote,
let's go back and look at the transcript. We said
we should try as best as possible we possibly can
to keep the children in schools. Nobody plays that clip.
They always come back and say Fauci was responsible for
shutting schools down. I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Now there's a technical word for that. That's called a
lie YESO.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
In twenty twenty two, he told The Hill that he
quote didn't recommend locking anything down. Well, his own private
diary refutes that, by the way. January twenty twenty four,
he said, quote, when he was testifying the House representatives,
I did not close the schools. Fauci is dishonest and
(24:40):
the diary is unequivocal. Five days later, here's what Fauci's
diary says.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Also, at a phone call with Meyriti, Deblasio, who wants
to go to shelter in place for the entire city,
is asking my advice since Governor Cuoma's pushing back, I
advised Ablasi to go ahead and do it. I will
try to speak with Cuomo so he's saying, shut everything down.
By the way, Fauci, also in March or twenty twenty,
describes President Trump as incorrigible.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
This is this pattern and.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
The rest of these diary entries are stunning that they
reveal a mego lamaniac. All right, here's another component that's
fairly stunning. You remember Fauci laid out at great length
that the source of COVID was not the Wuhan Institute
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for Virology.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yes, so that was one of the big ones, and
he got angry on TV when it was brought up.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It was not the Chinese government, It was not any
of that. It was instead the wet market in China
that occurred organically from like bat soup in the wet
market that just jumped from animals. So here is what
he wrote in January of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So right at the outset he wrote the following.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It now appears, using epidata and genomic data that the
first affection it was in early December and not connected
to the market. The infection spread among people weeks before
the Chinese reported that they were dealing with a new infection,
and that gave the virus time to establish itself. In
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multi generational sustain spread. Remember early on the Chinese were
saying that there is no human to human transmission and
that all the original twenty seven cases were from the market.
Now we know the market was not the source, it
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was the amplifier. Having said that somewhere the virus jumped
from animals to humans, I want to repeat that sentence.
Now we know the market was not the source, it
was the amplifier. This was January of twenty twenty, and
Fauci repeatedly lied about this over and over again. And
by the way, in March and April of twenty twenty,
(27:16):
for those who are longtime listeners to Verdict, we have
a lot of new listeners to Verdict. But in March
and April of twenty twenty, go back and listen to
I did two episodes on Verdict where we laid out
the evidence early in COVID that the weight of the
evidence was the COVID virus came from the Wuhan Institute
from virology where they were studying coronaviruses derived from bats,
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and that it escaped. I think it was likely an
accidental lab lak. I think they were engaged in research
gain of function, research where they took existing viruses, they
made them more dangerous, they more the more transmissible, more
targeted at humans.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I think they were studying them and then they screwed up.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
They had lacks they had lousy bioscicccurity measures, and I
think a doctor, a researcher, or someone got the disease,
walked out and spread it to someone else, and spread
someone else spread it someone else.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
That is the most likely scenario.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
By the way, multiple US government agencies now concur with
that that assessment. Fauci knew that at the outset and
life he lied. It was straight out lying, and it
was it was profoundly harmful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You look at what we're seeing now in these notes.
I love the transparency. There's some that are mad that
is put out saying, well, people aren't going to take
accurate notes in the future.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They think they're going to be outed.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
In this scenario, you should not be afraid of your
notes unless you were lying and manipulating and don't lie.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, just don't lie. Don't you want transparency?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm like, of course, like, well, if you out these
types of notes, you're never gonna get transparency again. I'm like, no,
just don't be a pathological liar to the American people.
And what we saw in these notes was on the
biggest issues of COVID, and I think this is the
core reason why I want to wrap it up and
get your reaction to it now. I understand why he
needed a pardon, preemptive pardon, because I think it's abundantly he.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Was lying and knew he was lying and quoting.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
His own words.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He was lying under oath to you guys who were
questioning him in Congress.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And by the way, I also believe Fauci funded the
gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute Virology. He
was covering his own rear end because his decision to
fund reckless research was a direct cause I believe of
the pandemic. Understand this is not a new phenomenon for Fauci.
I want to read an entry from his diary from
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twenty thirteen, so long before COVID happened twenty thirteen January fourteenth,
twenty thirteen, HHS turned me down on request from CNN,
Wolf Blitzer and Solidad O'Brien. I asked John Burkeow to
call up Bill Hall and find out what the heck
is going on and what the reason for all of
this is. John told me that CDC complaining to Bill
Hall and HHS that I was getting all of the
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publicity on an issue influenza tracking, that they considered was
their issue. I do not know who at CDC did this.
It could be anyone from Tom Freed, and I doubt
this to more likely Tom Skinner, CDCPR person. In any event,
it has nothing to do with my use of the
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word epidemic on Wolf Blitzer's show, and everything to do
with pure jealousy that I am a rock star stealing
their thunder. Shame on the CDC. So this is twenty
thirteen this man's own personal assessment. I want to read
that sentence again. It has everything to do with pure
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jealousy that I am a quote unquote rock star stealing
their thunder. This is someone who's a narcissist, who just
wants to be on TV when we're in the middle
of a pandemic, we're in the middle of a crisis.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
What did he wanted to do? He wanted to be on.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
TV as the savior, as the solution, and he was
willing to lie. He knew early on, he knew that
the wet market is not where this virus came from.
And yet he lied about that deliberately, and I think
he did so again to cover his own culpability. And
when it came to lockdowns, he repeatedly urged and advocated
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locking down schools, locking down small businesses, locking down churches,
destroying people's livelihoods, destroying kids. There were tens of millions
of kids in America who did not go to school
for more than a year because of these lockdowns.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And their education moving forward.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And by the way, the data show that learning loss
will be with them the rest of their lives, when
when they're eighty, they will still suffer the consequences. And
he's born no no consequences for his own recklessness. This
was egomaniacal. It was reckless, and it was wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It really was. We're gonna keep covering it. He's also
gonna be speaking, I think before Congress very soon. We'll
have that for you as well, to see if he
is at least having to answer some questions on this.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
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Speaker 2 (32:20):
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Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, I am so excited to
hear that you've decided to get behind free groceries. I
just want to know when can I get my free
groceries from you?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
What borough is it going to be in?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And how long until we never have to pay for
groceries again? Because this is now what we're up against
with the Communist Party in America.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, Ben, I will say that there are consequences to
communists coming to part power. And look the Democrats who
are winning, the people who are taking over the Democrat Party,
they're not socialists, they're not liberals, they're not progressives.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
They are Marxists.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, Comrade Mondami is an absolute Marxist. So two things
that happened this week that illustrate what happens when communists
take over.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This week, the New York City government docked hundreds of
thousands of New Yorkers. So Mondami published a list of
every New Yorker with their name and their home address,
who he says owns a pietaire who owns a million
dollar or more home in New York and doesn't live
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in New York. By the way, many of the people
who are on that list say they do live in
New York full time. But this list, which is published
with full names with full home addresses, is designed for
one purpose. It's designed so that leftist radicals will harass,
will threaten, and indeed will even commit acts of violence
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against them. At the same time, Mondami announced that he's
going to open five government run grocery stores where they
are going to sell food for thirty percent below the
market rate, which is going to effectively drive out of
business the private grocery stores in New York City.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We're going to break down both of those because this is.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Not let's have a little bit higher taxes, let's have
a little bit more welfare. This is the government number one,
targeting the enemies of the state and using violence and
intimidation to go after them, and number two moving towards
government seizure and control of private industry.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
We're gonna break all that down today.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, it really is incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I also want to ask you to take a moment
and I'm pray for the people of Israel with me.
There are so many prayers that are needed right now
for those that are in pain and suffering in Israel,
and they are constantly still under attack and under threat.
The headlines they may move on, the reporters may move
on to the next big story, but the heartache and
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the terror they do not. Iran and as Terras proxies
are continuing to target Israel as we speak. Hesblat continues
its attacks in the north, forcing families to live under
constant threat. Now Israel is not only just defending her people,
she is standing on the front lines against terror that
threatens all of us. And that is why I want
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to ask you to join me and helping pray for the.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
People of Israel.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews they have remained
there even after the news cruise have left, and every
day they are on the ground. They're providing life saving
aid near Israel's border with Lebanon. Just recently, Hesbladrone struck
the home of Yolina, she was widowed earlier this year,
living alone, she was trapped inside by that blast. Now,
(03:24):
thankfully she was not injured, but she did remain displaced
and as she described it, it's hard these days, but
I don't want to leave and why should she? As
Christians were called to stand with God's people and pray
for those defending Israel and protecting their freedoms. We hold
dear and that's why I want you to join the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and praying for the
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peace of Jerusalem and for the soldiers, families and civilians
carrying the burden of this fight. Right now, How do
you find out who you can pray for and what
their needs are? Go to pray IFCJ dot org. That is,
pray a IFCJ dot org. PRAYIFCJ dot org. All right,
so Center, let's start with this doxing list that you
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brought up a moment ago. Very interesting lists. I've been
on one of these lists before to dox me.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
There was a kid that made a clock it looked
like a bomb. It happened in Texas. They filed a lawsuit,
they published our home address. We had to move out
of our house. As the FBI described, there were so
many credible threats. This is no different than that. What
they did was they said, here's a list of people.
They are evil, they have money, they live in a
place of more than a million dollars. We want you
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to harass and target them. So they will feel unsafe.
And by the way, this is very close and eerie
to the same type of violence we saw against that
healthcare ceo, where people celebrated that that healthcare ceo was
assassinated on the streets of New York. You would think
they would have learned from that, But this is now
being done by the leader of New York Mandani.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So we have a lot of listeners to this podcast
or in New York, and if you're on this list,
I'm sorry, But for everyone else outside of New York,
I want to think how you would feel if you
have this newly elected communist mayor who publishes a list
of essentially ungrateful millionaires who don't pay their fair share,
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and your name is there, and your home address is there,
and that is designed to send harassment your way and
to send threats of physical violence. Here's what the New
York Post reported. Mamdani publishes names and addresses of all
NYC property owners who could be hit with the new
Pieta tear tax. Mayor zoa On Mandami's administration has published
a searchable database of Big Apple properties that could fall
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under the state's new.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Pea tare tax.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Effectively docsing thousands of wealthy New Yorkers. The city's Department
of Finance uploaded the comprehensive list, which purports to cover
all unoccupied non primary residences in the five Boroughs worth
north of one million dollars, including the full names and addresses.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Of every property owner. Quote.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's a reckless and foolish move, especially considering there are
potentially thousands of properties on that list that do not
qualify as second homes or whose owners will successfully dispute
their inclusion. Council Minority leader David Carr, Republican of Staten Island,
whose own home appears on the list, told the Post
on Monday. The move follows a widely panned ex post
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by the mayor in which he put wealthy residents on
notice to quote check your mailbox when you're back in
the Five Boroughs because you've got mail a warning that
notification letters were on their way. This is understand This
is the strategy that communists do.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
They want to drive.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Just look Mondommie started out by going after Ken Griffin
by demonizing him.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Here the Citadel CEO. So if you understand a man
that has built a head spun. It's massive and moved
a lot of his offices by the way down to
Miami to get out of New York.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This exact insanity.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And Griffin had invested billions of dollars in New York.
He had thousands of employees in New York. And Mondamie
did a video as the elected mayor attacking him, how
dare you have an apartment in New York even though
you don't live here full time?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Griffin understandably he was planning on expanding operations in New
York City. He said, you know what, I'm not going
to do so, so if you want jobs in New York, well,
guess what, You're mayor don't want you have jobs in
New York. But it didn't just stop with Ken Griffin.
It wasn't just you know, it's always the radical left
they say, oh, it's just the billionaires. This list had
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nine hundred and sixty thousand names and addresses on it.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
This is much broader.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Like when this tax was announced, they said, oh, it'll
just be a handful of people, it won't be you. Yeah,
and yet this is a massive list. And you know,
I suppose you could be a devil's advocate and say, well,
they didn't intend it to be that way. Look the
example you gave of the United Healthcare CEO was murdered,
(08:07):
shot in the back of the head. The left celebrated
that murder.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, you had.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Leftists cheering it. You have leftists wearing t shirts of
the murderer.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
With his face.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You have idiots who are tattooing the guy's face on
their bodies. Yeah, because they're so proud that he murdered
her a CEO. This list, tragically, is certain to result
in harassment and may well result in violence. And Mondamie
is perfectly okay with that. He wants to drive these
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people from New York. If you do not support him,
he wants you out of New York. That is not
new and it's one of the points. Look, communism is
you know, when you say there's a communist takeover the
Democrat Party to a person that doesn't play close attention
to politics, that sounds extreme, That sounds radical. Come on,
(09:04):
that can't possibly be real. That is, in fact what's happening.
And understand, communism is not something abstract and theoretical. Look,
my family fled Cuba. My father was in prison and
tortured in Cuba. My aunt Mike Thea Sonya, who we've
had on Verdict as a guest on Verdict. She was
imprisoned and tortured by Castro's goons. If you look at
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communism everywhere it's been implemented, whether you're talking about Cuba
or China, or Vietnam or North Korea or the Soviet
Union or Venezuela, it produces misery, It produces poverty, it
produces murder, torture, oppression. And one of the things to understand,
by the way, do you know who does own a panitara, which,
(09:50):
by the way, is not a term I use. It's
kind of weird that I keep using this weird French term.
You know who does own one?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Whew?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That would be comrade Munday. I mean he has this
luxurious estate in Uganda because he comes from money himself.
But the understand that's not unusual. Fidel Castro was a billionaire.
Yep Putin is a billionaire. In communist dictatorships, the communists
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have all the money and have all the power, and
so this effort to demonize and attack capitalists is deliberate
and it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, not only is it dangerous, I also think there's
a there's a method to this madness that I want
people to understand. This is how you gain power and
control if you're Mindani. If you push all the people
out that have the resources and the intellect to actually
challenge you on these things, and you make life for
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them so miserable where they finally just say, I have
the resources to get out of here, I don't have
to anymore. Then by default, that gives Mandani even more security.
He didn't have to worry about massive donations coming in
against them. They don't have to worry about another Democrat
that might actually be saying that runs against him and
beats them. We have witnessed this, by the way, happen
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all over the country in high crime, high poverty, failing
cities in America, where people are like, why do they
keep electing these people right over.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And over again.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Minneapolis turned into Mogadishu. It was a Somali invasion. The
Democrats sold the city to Somali fraudsters and criminals. Regular
verdict listers will know the answer to this. Who is
the single largest donor to Al Shabab, which is the
radical Islamic terror group in Somalia and the taxpayers of Minnesota.
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It was literally the fraud was so blatant, and the
Democrats signed off on it. They facilitated it, They profited
from it, they got elected from it, they took campaign
donations from it. Mandami's effort here is to lock in control,
to drive out anyone who opposes him. But by the way,
you might think, Okay, I'm not a billionaire. You might
think even I'm not a millionaire, so what does it
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concern me? This week he also had had another announcement.
He had an announcement at about grocery stores. I want
you to listen to what he had to say about
grocery stores.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Here's how it will work.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will
set prices for this core set of goods at thirty
percent below typical retail prices, no exceptions, no gimmicks. The
savings will last for the entire month. That means no
weekly fluctuations, nor stick a shock at the checkout line.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's simple. Why don't we just do this all over
the country center right?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Who needs? You know?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
This is a no brainer. We can just fix prices.
The prices never functuate. We force the prices down. They
make it sound like it is so easy, and if
it was this easy.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
By the way, did it works. A lot of people
don't realize this.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Grocery stores margins on the goods they sell are usually
about one and a half percent total. Like if you
go to a growrocery store chain, they're not making twenty
thirty percent on groceries they sell you.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It is extremely thin margins.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If you do a really good job, as one grocery
store executive told me a couple of years ago, you
might hit two and a half to three percent. So
if you're paying a dollar for something, they paid ninety
seven cents for it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
To put in perspective and listen, a couple of things
are gonna happen. So you're gonna have five city run
grocery stores. They're gonna set prices thirty percent below cost.
So one of the things that's gonna happen is people
are gonna come in and buy those those goods at
those lower costs. They're gonna run out. They're gonna be
empty shelves. By the way, the media is not going
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to show you the empty shells, but they're gonna run out.
And by the way, you see that in the Soviet Union,
you see that in communist countries where where the government
run grocery stores have empty shelves, because it turns out
government planners are not very good at deciding and figuring
out what people want. And so if bananas are thirty
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percent cheaper at the government run in the grocery store,
they're gonna run.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Out of banas. They're gonna be no business.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But secondly, let's assume that Mandami is spectacularly good, that
he just orders so much food that they don't run out.
What is the effect going to be. Let's suppose you
run a grocery store down the street. If you're running
a grocery store and Mandami stores selling all of their
food at thirty percent below cost, there's no way for
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you to compete with that. You don't have the ability.
If you're paying cost, you can't sell it for thirty
percent less than cost. And so if he continues this,
you're gonna go out of business. And understand, this is
not just giant, wealthy capitalist grocery stores, and there aren't
necessarily all that many giant, wealthy capitalist grocery stores. We're
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talking bodegas, We're talking like little grocery stores that are
owned many of them have Hispanic owners, many of them
are immigrants. If you're selling, you know, you got a
little bodega, You've got some milk, you've got some eggs,
you've got you know, you've got kind of different Yeah,
you've got different necessities.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
People in the neighborhood come by.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well, you know what if milk at Mandami's government run
grocery store is thirty percent less, then you can buy
it for Yeah, the bodegas are going out of business.
And understand this is part of the communist agenda as well.
It's a drive out their opponents, but it's also to
destroy private enterprise, to destroy small businesses, the bodegas. Remember
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we had just a week or two we played this
on the podcast where one of the heads of the
DSA in New York was asked about the margin in
bodega's and he said, well, look, if you can't, if
you have to charge such high prices, maybe those bodegas
just shouldn't be in business at all. That they want
to drive these people out of business. And the objective
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which the DSA is telling us is for the government
to be in charge of all of private enterprise in
charge of every business, to be the employer, to be,
the store, to be. And you know, I actually had
some fun tweeting out today saying, Mandami in five years
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when he visits another town, and I showed the image
of Boris Yeltsen when he visited You're in my hometown
of Houston, and he went to a grocery store and
he was totally blown away at the incredible array of
diversity and choices. And it's actually what helped convince him
that the Soviets could not win the Cold War. That
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if we had forty different kinds of ice cream and
they had one kind of ice cream and they were
out of it in the Soviet Union, that they were
not going to compete. That the marketplace works in Mandami.
He doesn't understand that, and he doesn't care. He is
saying the government is going to be in charge of
every aspect of your life.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's dangerous. And I want to underscore.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
There's some Republicans who are celebrating, saying, oh, this is great. Okay,
the Democrats have gone so crazy that they're gonna be unelectable,
and that's good for Republicans.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We're going to win I am not in that camp.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I I've changed on this, by the way, I was
one of those early on that was like, I love
having an AOC. I haven't said to you once and
said I would actually give money to keep her in office,
tongue in cheek because she would say the crazy things
that Democrats actually believe out loud, and she was a
useful idiot in that way. Now I'm as concerned as
you are about this, that this is now turning into
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a cancer, and how do you stop it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Look, we have two major political parties in this country.
I would like two parties that are somewhat sane, relatively normal.
We can have differences, okay, Republicans want lower taxes, Democrats
want higher taxes.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean we can have differences on you know, Republicans
are pro life, Democrats or pro choice. Okay, there are
differences that you can have in the arena of political
discs course and go back and forth.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I don't want one of our.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Two major political parties to be a communist party that
is outright nuts. And that's what's and by the way,
that's not all the Democrat party. Look, listen, in the
Senate they're no more than a handful of Democrat senators
who I would say right now are Marxists. You've got
the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warrens, who, by the way,
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are recruiting these communists and they're celebrating. And when Elizabeth
Warren looks at a Nazi, communist, misogynist, oyster farmer and
says he's my kind of guy, well, she's telling you
the truth. That is her kind of guy. But most
of the Democrats in the Senate are not yet communists,
but every one of them are terrified of the Communists.
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It's that radical left that has them scared.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And by the way, when you say they're they're they're terrified,
it's because they're afraid of losing power.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Of course, they're terrified.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
They're afraid, yes, primary they're afraid of losing her job
to a social slash communist slash Marxist candidate. And this
goes back to the original fear with aoc Chuck Schumer.
I have never seen a man capitulate more than I
have with him in the last couple of years, because
he's so afraid, as you described it perfectly, that they
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were going to get rid of him the leader of
the Democratic Party and replace him with AOC in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I believe it is one hundred percent that Chuck Schumer
cannot win another primary in the Democrat Party in New York,
and I think he's gradually coming to realize that.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
He was terrified that AOC was going to primary him.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I've joked that Schumer was going to be the inaugural
member of the AOC for president campaign.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's actually not a joke. Look, I think AOC.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Will run for president save his own tail.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I think she is one of the two front runners
for president of the Democrat side. I think it's AOC
and Gavin Newsom. That is two front runners. But I've
also predicted I think Mandami will be the next Democrat
Senator from New York.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I do not think Schumer.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
My guess is Schumer won't even run because he can't
run because the party, particularly in New York. But it's
a cancer spreading the rest of the country has gone crazy,
and listen, New York is the largest city in America.
My heart grieves that New York is an incredibly important
part of our country and to see it run by
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an outright communist is really dangerous, and I'm sorry to
say there will come another Democrat who's elected president.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I wish there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I would like that never to happen, but if history
is any guide, it will happen. I don't want the
next Democrat president to be an outright communist, and I
think the odds of that happening have increased exponentially because
they're engaged in a hostile taker of the Democrat Party.
And other than John Fetterman, who's been heroic in fighting
(20:50):
back on this, almost no other Democrat is even willing
to fight back on these lunatics.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, talking about lunatics, I got to get to this
other big story that deals with Anthony Fuci.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I've never said this before to Anthony Fauci, but thank
you for keeping a really, really good diary, because now
we have his record of what he was worried about
during COVID when it was exploding, and it all went
back to what I would describe as psychotic narcissism. He
(21:22):
was obsessed with being famous, He loved being the center
of attention. He also, I think clearly knew that, and
there's new accusations out that he was lying about the
side effects of COVID nineteen vaccines, some of which apparently
affected him personally, but he did not disclose to the public.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Look, Fauci is the single most dangerous bureaucrat in American history.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He's a megal and maniac.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He loved the press, and he was willing to implement
policies that hurt Americans, and he was willing to lie. So,
for example, Fauci played a critical role in shutting down
schools all across America. Yeah, now, when America saw devastating
results we have witnessed. I actually think a decade or
two from now, people will look back at the school
(22:06):
shutdowns during COVID and marvel at what an idiotic policy
this country pursued. A sort of mass psychosis. We have
seen in the day to demonstrate this, the largest learning
loss in recorded history since we began measuring the learning
of our students. The biggest learning loss came from the
(22:27):
COVID shutdowns. And by the way, the racial gap, the
gap between black and white students, the gap between Hispanic
and white students grew more than the during the COVID lockdowns,
again than any time since since it's been recorded. Now
Once it became ir irrefutable that the schools shutdowns were
a travesty, a disaster, Fauci's tried to back away and say, oh,
(22:52):
I didn't ask for the schools to be shut down. Well,
a number of his private diary entries have been released.
Here's that's what he wrote on March fifteenth, twenty twenty.
So this is pretty early in the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
He writes, quote big day. It's written in red letters.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I spoke with Bill Deblasio, Mayor New York City, and
convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly and
my conversations tonight, to close the New York City schools.
He had already decided based on what I was saying
on TV. That's what he said is private notes in March.
By the way, he said the same thing quote. I
had a similar call with Ann O'Leary, the chief of
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staff of Governor Gavin Newsom in California. Ann said that
based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor
has decided to close the schools in California, as well
as the bars and the restaurants. Now seven months later,
October sixteenth, twenty twenty, ABC News is interviewing Fauci and
(23:53):
he denies he had any role in the lockdowns. He says, quote,
let's go back and look at the transcript. We said
we should try as best as possible we possibly can
to keep the children in schools. Nobody plays that clip.
They always come back and say Fauci was responsible for
shutting schools down. I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Now there's a technical word for that. That's called a
lie YESO.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
In twenty twenty two, he told The Hill that he
quote didn't recommend locking anything down. Well, his own private
diary refutes that, by the way. January twenty twenty four,
he said, quote, when he was testifying the House representatives,
I did not close the schools. Fauci is dishonest and
(24:40):
the diary is unequivocal. Five days later, here's what Fauci's
diary says.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Also, at a phone call with Meyriti, Deblasio, who wants
to go to shelter in place for the entire city,
is asking my advice since Governor Cuoma's pushing back, I
advised Ablasi to go ahead and do it. I will
try to speak with Cuomo so he's saying, shut everything down.
By the way, Fauci, also in March or twenty twenty,
describes President Trump as incorrigible.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
This is this pattern and.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
The rest of these diary entries are stunning that they
reveal a mego lamaniac. All right, here's another component that's
fairly stunning. You remember Fauci laid out at great length
that the source of COVID was not the Wuhan Institute
(25:41):
for Virology.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yes, so that was one of the big ones, and
he got angry on TV when it was brought up.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It was not the Chinese government, It was not any
of that. It was instead the wet market in China
that occurred organically from like bat soup in the wet
market that just jumped from animals. So here is what
he wrote in January of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So right at the outset he wrote the following.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It now appears, using epidata and genomic data that the
first affection it was in early December and not connected
to the market. The infection spread among people weeks before
the Chinese reported that they were dealing with a new infection,
and that gave the virus time to establish itself. In
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multi generational sustain spread. Remember early on the Chinese were
saying that there is no human to human transmission and
that all the original twenty seven cases were from the market.
Now we know the market was not the source, it
(26:54):
was the amplifier. Having said that somewhere the virus jumped
from animals to humans, I want to repeat that sentence.
Now we know the market was not the source, it
was the amplifier. This was January of twenty twenty, and
Fauci repeatedly lied about this over and over again. And
by the way, in March and April of twenty twenty,
(27:16):
for those who are longtime listeners to Verdict, we have
a lot of new listeners to Verdict. But in March
and April of twenty twenty, go back and listen to
I did two episodes on Verdict where we laid out
the evidence early in COVID that the weight of the
evidence was the COVID virus came from the Wuhan Institute
from virology where they were studying coronaviruses derived from bats,
(27:42):
and that it escaped. I think it was likely an
accidental lab lak. I think they were engaged in research
gain of function, research where they took existing viruses, they
made them more dangerous, they more the more transmissible, more
targeted at humans.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I think they were studying them and then they screwed up.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
They had lacks they had lousy bioscicccurity measures, and I
think a doctor, a researcher, or someone got the disease,
walked out and spread it to someone else, and spread
someone else spread it someone else.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
That is the most likely scenario.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
By the way, multiple US government agencies now concur with
that that assessment. Fauci knew that at the outset and
life he lied. It was straight out lying, and it
was it was profoundly harmful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You look at what we're seeing now in these notes.
I love the transparency. There's some that are mad that
is put out saying, well, people aren't going to take
accurate notes in the future.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They think they're going to be outed.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
In this scenario, you should not be afraid of your
notes unless you were lying and manipulating and don't lie.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, just don't lie. Don't you want transparency?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm like, of course, like, well, if you out these
types of notes, you're never gonna get transparency again. I'm like, no,
just don't be a pathological liar to the American people.
And what we saw in these notes was on the
biggest issues of COVID, and I think this is the
core reason why I want to wrap it up and
get your reaction to it now. I understand why he
needed a pardon, preemptive pardon, because I think it's abundantly he.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Was lying and knew he was lying and quoting.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
His own words.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He was lying under oath to you guys who were
questioning him in Congress.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And by the way, I also believe Fauci funded the
gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute Virology. He
was covering his own rear end because his decision to
fund reckless research was a direct cause I believe of
the pandemic. Understand this is not a new phenomenon for Fauci.
I want to read an entry from his diary from
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twenty thirteen, so long before COVID happened twenty thirteen January fourteenth,
twenty thirteen, HHS turned me down on request from CNN,
Wolf Blitzer and Solidad O'Brien. I asked John Burkeow to
call up Bill Hall and find out what the heck
is going on and what the reason for all of
this is. John told me that CDC complaining to Bill
Hall and HHS that I was getting all of the
(30:04):
publicity on an issue influenza tracking, that they considered was
their issue. I do not know who at CDC did this.
It could be anyone from Tom Freed, and I doubt
this to more likely Tom Skinner, CDCPR person. In any event,
it has nothing to do with my use of the
(30:25):
word epidemic on Wolf Blitzer's show, and everything to do
with pure jealousy that I am a rock star stealing
their thunder. Shame on the CDC. So this is twenty
thirteen this man's own personal assessment. I want to read
that sentence again. It has everything to do with pure
(30:49):
jealousy that I am a quote unquote rock star stealing
their thunder. This is someone who's a narcissist, who just
wants to be on TV when we're in the middle
of a pandemic, we're in the middle of a crisis.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
What did he wanted to do? He wanted to be on.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
TV as the savior, as the solution, and he was
willing to lie. He knew early on, he knew that
the wet market is not where this virus came from.
And yet he lied about that deliberately, and I think
he did so again to cover his own culpability. And
when it came to lockdowns, he repeatedly urged and advocated
(31:29):
locking down schools, locking down small businesses, locking down churches,
destroying people's livelihoods, destroying kids. There were tens of millions
of kids in America who did not go to school
for more than a year because of these lockdowns.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And their education moving forward.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And by the way, the data show that learning loss
will be with them the rest of their lives, when
when they're eighty, they will still suffer the consequences. And
he's born no no consequences for his own recklessness. This
was egomaniacal. It was reckless, and it was wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It really was. We're gonna keep covering it. He's also
gonna be speaking, I think before Congress very soon. We'll
have that for you as well, to see if he
is at least having to answer some questions on this.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
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