1. Criticism of Gavin Newsom
- The hosts mock California Governor Gavin Newsom for allegedly misrepresenting his upbringing as impoverished.
- They highlight his privileged background, connections to the Getty family, and early business ventures.
- Newsom is portrayed as part of a broader trend of wealthy leftists promoting socialism while living in luxury.
2. Democratic Party and Radicalism
- The episode argues that the Democratic Party has shifted radically left, embracing socialism and Marxism.
- Figures like Comrade Mamdani are cited as examples of extreme ideology within the party.
- The hosts lament the lack of moderate Democrats willing to challenge the radical wing, referencing Bill Maher as a rare voice of reason.
3. Bill Maher’s Commentary
- Maher is quoted warning Democrats about the dangers of aligning with far-left candidates like Mamdani.
- He calls for a “Sister Souljah moment,” referencing Bill Clinton’s strategic distancing from radical elements during his campaign.
4. Human Rights in Nigeria
- Senator Cruz discusses Christian persecution in Nigeria, citing over 50,000 murders since 2009.
- He criticizes the Nigerian government for corruption and complicity in violence.
- Proposes sanctions and leveraging U.S. aid to pressure Nigeria into protecting human rights.
5. Recognition of Somaliland
- The guest, born in Somalia, advocates for U.S. recognition of Somaliland as an independent nation.
- Somaliland is praised for its democratic governance, stability, and alignment with U.S. values.
- The argument is framed as a strategic move to counter instability in the Horn of Africa.
6. Bill Gates and Climate Change
- The hosts poke fun at Bill Gates for allegedly reversing his stance on climate change alarmism.
- Gates is quoted saying the “doomsday view” is wrong and that other global issues deserve more attention.
- The episode criticizes climate policies, solar energy failures, and the hypocrisy of elites using private jets.
7. Fracking and U.S. Emissions
- The hosts credit George Mitchell, a Texas oilman, with pioneering fracking and reducing U.S. carbon emissions.
- They argue that natural gas has helped the U.S. lead in emission reductions, while China remains the top polluter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz, we can review
Ben Ferguson with you. And here are some big stories
that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
First off, Mandani and Gavin Newsom. They're marketing Marxism and
socialism to the American voter like never before. Will there
be backlash. We're going to break that down for you. Also,
(00:20):
Center Cruse and I set down with an incredible leader
to talk about Christian abuse in Nigeria and why the
media isn't covering this story but we are here and
it's important. And finally Bill Gates reversing course on global warming.
So how much money was made off of selling you
on the big scam? It's the week in Review and
(00:43):
it starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did you hear Gavin Newsom on the podcast discussing his rough,
hard scrabble life eating wonderbread growing up in the hood,
because you know, Gavin was an oppressed youth.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Did you see that it was almost as oppress as
he was during the COVID lockdowns when he was the
only one allowed to have dinner with his friends without
mass on.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You know, Look, to be clear, Gavin Newsom is California Royalties,
fourth or fifth generation California old Money. His daddy was
one of the lead lawyers for the Getty billionaire fortune.
He grew up, he was featured in the San Francisco
(01:26):
Paper in an article entitled growing Up Rich. And to
be clear, he started a winery with the Getty millions
billions actually but millions from them. Started a winery at
age twenty five. Now, Benjamin, let me ask you, did
you start a winery at h twenty five? No?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, I felt like I worked really hard, but I
promise you it was not a winery at twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And look, it's okay. I don't fault Gavin for the
success of his parents, or his grandparents or his great
great grandparents. And it's amazing how many leftists were raised
with silver spoons and inserted just about any place you
can insert a spoon. But when he pretends like he's
on this this NBA podcast and he's talking about, oh,
(02:11):
I just had to support myself. I had to support
myself playing ball, like what a load, what a croc?
And it's pathological Newsom is running a different scam than
Mandanni is, but it's the same scam. It is marketing Marxism, socialism,
(02:35):
confiscatory government power and trying to make it. I will
say this, I'm gonna compliment right now both Comrade Mondani
and Gavin Newsom they got great smiles. I mean, to
be honest, every dentist in America must be like, look
at those pearly whitesors smile like it. And you know,
I got to say and I'll say this as as
(02:58):
a Cuban American whose family you know, fled Cuba, it
really feels better if you're a dissident being lined up
from the firing squad, if you know that the communist
ordering your death or smiling like it really makes it
less painful as you're sent to the gulag. To know
it's a good looking tyrant who is sending me to
(03:19):
the Gulag, But sadly that's where we are. And can
I ask you one more question on this topic? Sure,
is there is there a single sane Democrat who is
calling out Comrade Mom, Donnie or Gavin Douso on these issues.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, because they created these crazies and they allowed them
to fester in their party and they literally didn't police
their party. So this is the Democratic Party now and
their leaders are not Democrats. They are commies, they are socialists,
they are Marxists. Just look around the country. This is
who they are.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. Look, the elected members of the Democrat Party, particularly
on the national scene, they're scared. They're scared of the mob.
They're scared of the angry left wing radicals with torches
and pitchforks. We saw this at the No King's rally,
where they're terrified. We're in the middle, we're in day
(04:17):
twenty seven of the Schumer shutdown, because they're terrified of
the mob, and so elected Democrats are terrified. But again, listen,
we endeavor on this podcast to try to be real,
to try to have facts, to try not to engage
in just empty partisan rhetoric. So maybe you might say,
all right, Cruz Ferguson that they're not the most impartial,
(04:41):
unbiased observers if you're not inclined to listen to us,
Although I will say, if you've made it twenty nine
minutes into this podcast and you're not inclined to listen
to us, wow, you've got some endurance. Bravos of you,
But indulge in indulge the setup. Nonetheless, if you're not
inclined to listen to us, perhaps you would be inclined
(05:01):
to listen to Bill Maher. Bill Maher is a liberal,
he is a Democrat. He's been a liberal and his
democrat a Democrat his whole life. Listen to what Bill
Maher had to say, the warning to Democrats he had
to say about comrade Mundani.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
The Democrats, let's face it, they're kind of split. Now
there's the far left version that did not do too
well in recent elections, and then people like the governors
say we've got to come back to the middle, common sense,
And whenever this discussion comes up, this is what you
hear a lot. We need a sister soldier moment a
time when some issue with the Democrat says, look, I'm
not with the far left, and this is how you
(05:37):
know you can trust me that I'm not. I think
I have the issue, okay, and it's the mayor's race
in New York. I think he seems like a sweet guy,
mum donni. But I would just like to say, because
the election is in a couple of weeks, this is
not just New York that's on the ballot. I think
(05:59):
the whole demokrat credit in the country is on the ballot,
and the whole country would be looking at this race
to see which way are the Democrats going to go. No,
Andrew Cuomo may not be that exciting and that inspirational,
but you know, for a party that said we want
to get back to normal, he's kind of normal.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I mean, what, well, he's done some things in his history.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That well, we did a deep dive on that because
we had him on the show. A lot of it
is kind of bulls. I mean maybe he was a
little too handsy, a little too Italian, Uh, a little
too touchy. You know, he did not to Italian, that's
what he said. You know, yes, you know you did
(06:43):
not get the memo.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean it's when you're having to defend Cuomo to
try to save your party, you're not in a good place.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, but Bill Maher, and let's be clear, Bill Maher
did not vote for Donald Trump. Bill Maher would not
vote for me. He is a liberal, he is a Democrat.
But Bill Maher every day makes more and more sense
because his party has gone so batcrap crazy that he
believes in things like free speech, he believes in things
(07:12):
like not supporting a communist government that seizes private property
and the means of production in society. He doesn't want
to support Hamas terrorists and other jahatists that used to
be mainstream, that used to be all of those propositions
were things. It used to be the case that Republicans
(07:35):
and Democrats came together. Look Bill Clinton. When Bill Clinton
was president, neither you nor I supported Bill Clinton. We
did not vote for Bill Clinton. But you know what
the Bill Clinton election when he was elected, it was
not the fate of Western civilization. It was not do
we elect a communist jihadist. I would have rather a
(07:56):
Republican be elected. But the world didn't end when Bill
Clinton got elected. Bill Clinton's views. If you took a
candidate with the identical policy views of Bill Clinton and
ran him today, they would tar and feather him and
drive him out of the Democrat Party. He would be
completely an.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Entirely as president.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He would not get elected. He probably wouldn't get elected
as a Democrat dogcatcher because they have radicalized and they
instead want someone like Comrade Monami, whose party says release
the terrorists, who murders Jews because they're Jews. That's where
their radical base is. And and you know some of
(08:35):
y'all may not may not know what a sister Soldier
moment is. And and sister Soldier actually refers to Bill Clinton.
When Bill Clinton was running for president, Sister Soldier was
was this rapper and and and Bill Clinton denounced her
in the middle of the primary, and it was viewed
as as a brave moment of sort of taking on
his base. But it demonstrated to the voters, or it
(08:57):
was perceived to demonstrate to the voter that he was
reasonable and rational and not a crazy nutcase. And it
is an interesting question. Is there even one national Democrat?
By the way, Gavin Newsom wants to be elected president,
can he denounce Mundami? Jamie Pritzker wants to be elected president?
Can he do it? Corey Booker wants to, Chris Murphy
(09:20):
wants to. None of them are going to because look,
John Fetterman has been critical. But John Fetterman, I think
the Democrat Party is being quite explicit that they're going
to do everything they can to drive him out of
the Democrat Party, just like they would Bill Clinton if
he were there. But I don't know a Democrat, And interestingly,
(09:41):
one ambitious Democrat is there? Nobody looking around Andy Basher,
who's pretending he's a moderate in Kentucky. Josh Shapiro, who
has got to be horrified at what Mondami's saying. Has
he said a word crickets? Crickets, crickets? There is not one,
(10:03):
and maybe that will change. But I fear not just
for the state of the Democrat Party, but I fear
for the future of our republic. I think we do
better when we have two political parties that are reasonable
and rational and have some meaningful disagreements than we do
with one party that is utterly whack job and trying
(10:24):
to destroy America. Look, we've seen through history it is
a pendulum, and it goes from one party to the other.
There will come a time when these lunatics are a
charge of the country again, and they've gotten so extreme
that I really shudder and fear for our great nation.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
you can go back and listen to the full podcast
from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Now, Nowijan tell us what's happening in Nigeria. And as
you know, I've been very vocal calling out the mass
murder of Christians over fifty thousand Christians have been ordered
in Nigeria. Since two thousand and nine, over twenty thousand
churches and schools have been destroyed, burned to the ground.
And you have Boko Haram and other radical Islamic terrorist
(11:11):
groups that are targeting and persecuting Christians in particular. And
I will tell you the government of Nigeria is very
unhappy with me. They have decried my saying this. I
have introduced legislation to designate them a country a special
concern And the government in Nigeria is very unhappy. And
I've said, look that there are far too many government
leaders who have turned a blind eyed to what is happening,
(11:31):
who have acquiesced in what is happening, who are enforcing
either Sharia laws or blasphemy laws and facilitating the persecution
of Christians. And as I said, the Nigerian government has
been vigorously resisting me in this. Give me your judgment.
What do you see happening in Nigeria and what do
you think is actually the truth.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Nigeria is the most important African country, largest population, and
obviously there's a vying for control between on the one hand,
the Islamic states of Nigeria and the Christian States of Nigeria,
and it used to be about fifty to fifty. But
(12:17):
because the Islamist movement Bokoharam and others, they want to
apply force that Ji had his force. It's sort of
gruesome killing that we've seen in October seven, twenty twenty
three in Israel. So what is going on in Nigeria.
The Islamists in Nigeria are killing Christians, They're burning their churches,
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they're raping their women, they are invoking blasphemilos. So in
the southern regions of Nigeria, Sharia law is the law.
And if you say Taed Cruz has you know he
said something bad against Islam, you can have a mob
come and lynch you and there's nothing you can do
about it. But then the government, it should be doing
something about it. And the government isn't doing anything about it. Now,
(13:04):
what is the characteristic of the government of Nigeria. It's corrupt.
The elites in Nigeria, whether they're Muslim or whether they're Christian,
they're in this bubble, and I think that bubble has
to be burist in a comfort bubble. I don't really
think that they care about that much about or are
hell responsible or accountable or transparent for what is going
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on with a large majority of the Nigerian population. And
that's what you see. And we give a lot of
money as the United States and legitimacy to this government.
We've got to hold them accountable. And I couldn't be
more pleased that you are involved in this, Senator Cruz.
You're calling them out and you're going to say, if
(13:45):
you want to be our Allian, our friend, we need
you to uphold your end of being a responsible and
responsive government. There's a goal.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
There are more Christians being murdered in Nigeria than in
any country on planet Earth. One thing you said that
I thought was interesting and I think many of our
listeners will not have heard this before. You said in
your judgment, Nigeria is the most important African country. To
tell our listeners why that is because many will will
(14:14):
not have a deep familiarity with that.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It has the largest population, it has oil resources, the
population is very young, it's English speaking, highly educated. Let
me just give you an example. Kemi baranoch I hope
the future Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is from
Nigeria and is Christian. So if we were if you know,
in our relationship with right now Prussia, China, et cetera.
(14:43):
I think the continent as a whole, the continent of Africa,
which is home to over a billion people.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, and growing a young population that is growing.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's the youngest population and it's the only population on
planet art that is growing as happy as it's doing right.
And so Nigeria is strategically important. Nigeria is a sort
of country that should be our ally and there is
a huge Christian population that means they share norms and
(15:16):
values with us, and we should not be abandoning Nigeria.
And so the population is pro American, but then they
are let down by their government. And I think that
can change if we were even to bring a little
bit of leverage down on them, because we have that leverage.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
When you say a little bit of leverage, what do
you mean, like, what would the leverage look like that
you think could could literally save lives, especially Christian lives
and Nigeria who are being attacked right now.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Well, it starts from the amounts of Development aid money
that we give them. We could apply sanctions we I
mean we.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Well, in my legislation with sanctions particular government officials, so
government officials at the local level who are engaged in
facilitating and acquiescing in this persecution. And so it's designed
to use the power of the US economy and US
sanctions to incentivize different behavior.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Absolutely and incentivized, as legitimates, is really important for them
to keep their money in America to you know, all
of these the private jets they come and they play
in America and American allies even when they play in Europe.
I think we have a say over that, but I
don't want to go into the details of that, but
(16:47):
I think we can leverage our influence to make the
Nigerian government stop the violence immediately. They have shari a
lot in the southern regions. We can and then we say, oh,
human rights is that and other where you have Sharia law,
you do not have human rights? Are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Absolutely? Absolutely, And we need to stand up and we
need to fight vigorously to prevent it here in the
United States. Okay, final topic, and we're going to wrap
up in just a couple of minutes. But you were
born in Somalia, as you know. I've publicly called on
the Trump administration to recognize Somaliland as a separate and
independent nation. Tell our viewers what you think about that,
(17:29):
and if you think that makes sense, tell them why I.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Think we should reward Somali Land for what they have achieved.
They have been since nineteen six I mean the former
dictatorial government si Bar, they were massacred. They llewed into
becoming part of Somalia. They became part of Somalia and
they have come to live to regret it. But at
the moment, very quickly, they are the only viable nation state.
(17:57):
They have a homogeneous population, they speak one language, and
there is a narrative of national identity, of common suffering
but also common survival. You know, as a Somali, I
will tell you something I'm not. I'm an American, but
born in Somali. I will say that one of the
things that we Smaris excel at is in vengeance. But
(18:19):
the leadership of Somaliland have decided after nineteen ninety one
that they are not going to channel the energy of
their population into vengeance but build into building. What is
a nation and they are economically violent. I think they
that may have oil and gas. I think that they
could be a strategic partner I admire.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And they want to stand with America. They are standing up.
It is in our national interest to Recognizeiland to have
a major ally on the horn of Africa that is
standing with us. That's significant. And look, I am someone
who is very much America first. We should be putting
(19:04):
American national security interest first and recognize as Somali Land
enhances those interests.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Absolutely, they are absolutely on the same page as as
they Also they've recognized Israel. They have defined they have
a defined territory, they have a permanent population, they issue passports.
But the most important thing is that they hold elections
(19:31):
one man, one vote for president, for parliament and local elections.
And you can come and survey those and see that
they are actually in some ways better than our American elections.
And so I think Somali Land should be rewarded for
the fact that they have built a nation. They do
not rely on development aid. They never relied on US.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Eight.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, so please vibrate them from what is Somalia Mogadishi,
which is just a broken hiding place.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, Jan, thank you for taking the time, Thank you
for joining us. I think this has been a very
informative podcast. I think our listeners are really going to
get a lot out of it. Let me encourage our
listeners share this podcast if you want your friends, your
family to understand, understand the threat of political Islam, what
it means, what it's meant in Europe, what it means
here in America. I think it is an incredibly important topic.
(20:28):
It is a very real threat. It is a threat
that I am committed to combating. And one of the
purposes of this podcast is to equip you to give
you information that when you're talking with your friends and
families and colleagues and co workers, that you know the
truth and ayan I think this has been very, very
helpful to our listeners. So thank you so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
As before, If you want to hear the rest of
this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the
entire thing. I want to get back to the big
story number three of the week. You may have missed,
all right, So this one is just one of those
segments that I'm just going to enjoy Bill Gates as
(21:10):
a guy that was like the world's gonna end center
and we're all gonna you know die of heat and
global warming is real, and I'm investing in all these
projects and things, and the government should be doing the same.
And now he's like, all, right, screwed, it's not gonna happen.
It reminds me. I think it was Newsweek back in
the eighties where they said we're all going to freeze
to death from like arctic freezing of the entire globe.
(21:32):
That went away too, So they got it wrong in
the eighties. And now Bill Gates is admitting and Al Gore,
remember we were supposed to be dead like after ten years,
and that was like ten years ago when he made
his prediction that we're all going to die of global warming.
None of it's actually happened. And so now Bill Gates
like a right, screw it. I was wrong, I guess.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So it wasn't ten years, it was twelve years. And
for some reason for the apocalyptic left, the world is
always ending in twelve years. And that's been true for
about two decades now. They've been saying twelve years from now,
we're all going to die. Twelve years from now, we're
all going to die. And I got to say Bill
Gates was willing to be as hysterical as Greta, the
(22:10):
European teenager who shut down the German economy because they
listened to a teenager and said, hey, why don't we
shut down all of our nuclear power plants? And then
they suddenly realized they couldn't power their country, and ironically enough,
instead they're now opening coal plants and polluting a lot
more so. The apocalypse the world is ending because of
(22:32):
climate change. Well, look, all right, don't necessarily believe me.
Let me just read what Bill Gates has done. So
this is from Daily Wire. Microsoft co founder Bill Gates
has done and about face on climate change alarmism recently,
saying that there are more pressing matters people should be
worrying about instead. The seventy year old tech billionaire, who
has been an outspoken environmental activist for years, said as
(22:54):
much in a memo published Tuesday titled Three Tough Truths
about Climate It. Here's what he wrote. Climate change, disease,
and poverty are all major problems. We should deal with
them in proportion to the suffering they cause. The businessman
admitted that the Earth's temperature is not the most important
factor for improving life on the planet, and said the
(23:18):
quote doom'sday view of climate change is wrong. Let me
let me read that again. Bill Gates said the doom'sday
view of climate change is wrong. Here's what he wrote. Quote,
although climate change will have serious consequences, particularly for people
in the poorest countries, it will not lead to humanity's demise.
(23:39):
Shocking that, Bill Gates said that. And and and here
he goes on to say, quote what mean what does
that mean?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He can find his private jets now and like take
a nap, not be like having to buy carbon credits
or get on his shot. I'm just confided, I want
to be here. What does this free him up to do?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh no, no, the carbon credits scam is definitely still on.
But but but he's going to keep lying on his jets.
And remember, by the way, John Kerry the Zealot when
he discussed his private play and he said, you know,
he flies private because he says, really, for someone like me,
it's the only reasonable way to travel. Yes, but likely
the utter hypocrisy. But here's what Gates wrote. This is
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a chance to refocus on the metrics that should count
even more than emissions and temperature change. Improving lives our
chief goal should be to prevent suffering, particularly for those
in the toughest conditions who live in the world's poorest countries.
And he added quote, although climate change will hurt poor
people more than anyone else, for the vast majority of them,
(24:37):
it will not be the only or even the biggest
threat to their welfare. And he wrote this seventeen page
analysis ahead of next months United Nations Climate Change Conference
in Brazil, hoping to shift funding away from climate initiatives
towards other endeavors that he now believes are more important. Look.
(24:57):
I don't know about you, but I'm not tired of winning.
I mean this is climate change was an ex.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So it's scam to make a bunch of money. Is
that what we can kind of get to here? It
was just about all of the money.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Money and power. There's a lot of money, a lot
of money, take power. Look look for for democrats. If
you are a socialist, if you are a communist, if
you are a comrade. Uh Mamdani, I assume he's a
climate change not I don't actually know that, but I
know he's a communist. And and and climate change was
the excuse for communists to seize control of our government
(25:32):
and and and that today's Democrat party, it was a
great we're all gonna die unless you let me, the
Democrat politician control the energy and business and your life
and and regulate every aspect of your life. The fact
that Bill Gates is making this change, it really shows
the momentum is moving and people are are are engaged
(25:54):
in just just common sense is coming back.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, and not only common sense, but like you look
at these solar farms, they're like being dormited right now,
Like they're just shutting them down because they just can't work.
They're not working in the pollution that comes actually from
the turbines and all the other things they are actually saying,
it's like having a real negative effect on the environment.
Shocker there. And then we also found out that like
a pension fund in California lost like seventy plus percent
(26:21):
of the investment that they went in green alternative energy
that just came out, so like they screwed countless hardworking
even liberals in California with this crap.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And a point to understand, the climate change radicals have
consistently hurt the environment. They are bad on the environment.
If the only thing you care about, if you wake
up every morning praying to Mother Earth. If that's your
only voting issue, you should vote against Democrats. Why Let's
take for example Germany. The Greens forced nuclear power plants
(26:54):
to be closed. The result is today Germany is relying
more on coal, which is much much worse for the environment.
And what country is leads the world every year in
the reduction of carbon emissions?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That would be the United States of America? Do you
know why?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Look, this is a question. Actually I pose when I'm
when I'm in college campus, when I'm talking to college
kids and they're Bernie Sanders supporters and they're they're freaked
out about the climate, I'll ask him a question. I'll say,
tell me what human being has done the most to
reduce climate in our lifetimes? And inevitably they have no idea.
There is an objectively right answer. The right answer to
(27:36):
this is George Mitchell. Now, who is George Mitchell. George
Mitchell was a Texas oil man. He was the son
of a Greek goat herder, and George Mitchell is is
the man most responsible for pioneering fracking, and he did
it in the Barnett Shale under Fort Worth and Dallas.
Fracking unlocked the shale revolution, which resulted in massive production
(28:01):
of natural gas, much of it in Texas, although also
in Pennsylvania and Ohio and other states across the country.
And the reason the United States every year leads the
world in the reduction of carbon emissions is because at
a wide scale level, we are replacing coal powered electricity
generation with natural gas powered electricity generation, and that pollutes
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much much less, it emits much less carbon, and the
Greens and the Radical Dems have opposed that at every step.
By the way, do you know what country leads the
world in pollution?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That would be Communist China, which pollutes massively, and yet
the Biden administration bear hug them with all they had.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
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Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz, we can review
Ben Ferguson with you. And here are some big stories
that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
First off, Mandani and Gavin Newsom. They're marketing Marxism and
socialism to the American voter like never before. Will there
be backlash. We're going to break that down for you. Also,
(00:20):
Center Cruse and I set down with an incredible leader
to talk about Christian abuse in Nigeria and why the
media isn't covering this story but we are here and
it's important. And finally Bill Gates reversing course on global warming.
So how much money was made off of selling you
on the big scam? It's the week in Review and
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it starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did you hear Gavin Newsom on the podcast discussing his rough,
hard scrabble life eating wonderbread growing up in the hood,
because you know, Gavin was an oppressed youth.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Did you see that it was almost as oppress as
he was during the COVID lockdowns when he was the
only one allowed to have dinner with his friends without
mass on.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You know, Look, to be clear, Gavin Newsom is California Royalties,
fourth or fifth generation California old Money. His daddy was
one of the lead lawyers for the Getty billionaire fortune.
He grew up, he was featured in the San Francisco
(01:26):
Paper in an article entitled growing Up Rich. And to
be clear, he started a winery with the Getty millions
billions actually but millions from them. Started a winery at
age twenty five. Now, Benjamin, let me ask you, did
you start a winery at h twenty five? No?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, I felt like I worked really hard, but I
promise you it was not a winery at twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And look, it's okay. I don't fault Gavin for the
success of his parents, or his grandparents or his great
great grandparents. And it's amazing how many leftists were raised
with silver spoons and inserted just about any place you
can insert a spoon. But when he pretends like he's
on this this NBA podcast and he's talking about, oh,
(02:11):
I just had to support myself. I had to support
myself playing ball, like what a load, what a croc?
And it's pathological Newsom is running a different scam than
Mandanni is, but it's the same scam. It is marketing Marxism, socialism,
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confiscatory government power and trying to make it. I will
say this, I'm gonna compliment right now both Comrade Mondani
and Gavin Newsom they got great smiles. I mean, to
be honest, every dentist in America must be like, look
at those pearly whitesors smile like it. And you know,
I got to say and I'll say this as as
(02:58):
a Cuban American whose family you know, fled Cuba, it
really feels better if you're a dissident being lined up
from the firing squad, if you know that the communist
ordering your death or smiling like it really makes it
less painful as you're sent to the gulag. To know
it's a good looking tyrant who is sending me to
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the Gulag, But sadly that's where we are. And can
I ask you one more question on this topic? Sure,
is there is there a single sane Democrat who is
calling out Comrade Mom, Donnie or Gavin Douso on these issues.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, because they created these crazies and they allowed them
to fester in their party and they literally didn't police
their party. So this is the Democratic Party now and
their leaders are not Democrats. They are commies, they are socialists,
they are Marxists. Just look around the country. This is
who they are.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. Look, the elected members of the Democrat Party, particularly
on the national scene, they're scared. They're scared of the mob.
They're scared of the angry left wing radicals with torches
and pitchforks. We saw this at the No King's rally,
where they're terrified. We're in the middle, we're in day
(04:17):
twenty seven of the Schumer shutdown, because they're terrified of
the mob, and so elected Democrats are terrified. But again, listen,
we endeavor on this podcast to try to be real,
to try to have facts, to try not to engage
in just empty partisan rhetoric. So maybe you might say,
all right, Cruz Ferguson that they're not the most impartial,
(04:41):
unbiased observers if you're not inclined to listen to us,
Although I will say, if you've made it twenty nine
minutes into this podcast and you're not inclined to listen
to us, wow, you've got some endurance. Bravos of you,
But indulge in indulge the setup. Nonetheless, if you're not
inclined to listen to us, perhaps you would be inclined
(05:01):
to listen to Bill Maher. Bill Maher is a liberal,
he is a Democrat. He's been a liberal and his
democrat a Democrat his whole life. Listen to what Bill
Maher had to say, the warning to Democrats he had
to say about comrade Mundani.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
The Democrats, let's face it, they're kind of split. Now
there's the far left version that did not do too
well in recent elections, and then people like the governors
say we've got to come back to the middle, common sense,
And whenever this discussion comes up, this is what you
hear a lot. We need a sister soldier moment a
time when some issue with the Democrat says, look, I'm
not with the far left, and this is how you
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know you can trust me that I'm not. I think
I have the issue, okay, and it's the mayor's race
in New York. I think he seems like a sweet guy,
mum donni. But I would just like to say, because
the election is in a couple of weeks, this is
not just New York that's on the ballot. I think
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the whole demokrat credit in the country is on the ballot,
and the whole country would be looking at this race
to see which way are the Democrats going to go. No,
Andrew Cuomo may not be that exciting and that inspirational,
but you know, for a party that said we want
to get back to normal, he's kind of normal.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I mean, what, well, he's done some things in his history.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That well, we did a deep dive on that because
we had him on the show. A lot of it
is kind of bulls. I mean maybe he was a
little too handsy, a little too Italian, Uh, a little
too touchy. You know, he did not to Italian, that's
what he said. You know, yes, you know you did
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not get the memo.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean it's when you're having to defend Cuomo to
try to save your party, you're not in a good place.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, but Bill Maher, and let's be clear, Bill Maher
did not vote for Donald Trump. Bill Maher would not
vote for me. He is a liberal, he is a Democrat.
But Bill Maher every day makes more and more sense
because his party has gone so batcrap crazy that he
believes in things like free speech, he believes in things
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like not supporting a communist government that seizes private property
and the means of production in society. He doesn't want
to support Hamas terrorists and other jahatists that used to
be mainstream, that used to be all of those propositions
were things. It used to be the case that Republicans
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and Democrats came together. Look Bill Clinton. When Bill Clinton
was president, neither you nor I supported Bill Clinton. We
did not vote for Bill Clinton. But you know what
the Bill Clinton election when he was elected, it was
not the fate of Western civilization. It was not do
we elect a communist jihadist. I would have rather a
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Republican be elected. But the world didn't end when Bill
Clinton got elected. Bill Clinton's views. If you took a
candidate with the identical policy views of Bill Clinton and
ran him today, they would tar and feather him and
drive him out of the Democrat Party. He would be
completely an.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Entirely as president.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He would not get elected. He probably wouldn't get elected
as a Democrat dogcatcher because they have radicalized and they
instead want someone like Comrade Monami, whose party says release
the terrorists, who murders Jews because they're Jews. That's where
their radical base is. And and you know some of
(08:35):
y'all may not may not know what a sister Soldier
moment is. And and sister Soldier actually refers to Bill Clinton.
When Bill Clinton was running for president, Sister Soldier was
was this rapper and and and Bill Clinton denounced her
in the middle of the primary, and it was viewed
as as a brave moment of sort of taking on
his base. But it demonstrated to the voters, or it
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was perceived to demonstrate to the voter that he was
reasonable and rational and not a crazy nutcase. And it
is an interesting question. Is there even one national Democrat?
By the way, Gavin Newsom wants to be elected president,
can he denounce Mundami? Jamie Pritzker wants to be elected president?
Can he do it? Corey Booker wants to, Chris Murphy
(09:20):
wants to. None of them are going to because look,
John Fetterman has been critical. But John Fetterman, I think
the Democrat Party is being quite explicit that they're going
to do everything they can to drive him out of
the Democrat Party, just like they would Bill Clinton if
he were there. But I don't know a Democrat, And interestingly,
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one ambitious Democrat is there? Nobody looking around Andy Basher,
who's pretending he's a moderate in Kentucky. Josh Shapiro, who
has got to be horrified at what Mondami's saying. Has
he said a word crickets? Crickets, crickets? There is not one,
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and maybe that will change. But I fear not just
for the state of the Democrat Party, but I fear
for the future of our republic. I think we do
better when we have two political parties that are reasonable
and rational and have some meaningful disagreements than we do
with one party that is utterly whack job and trying
(10:24):
to destroy America. Look, we've seen through history it is
a pendulum, and it goes from one party to the other.
There will come a time when these lunatics are a
charge of the country again, and they've gotten so extreme
that I really shudder and fear for our great nation.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
you can go back and listen to the full podcast
from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Now, Nowijan tell us what's happening in Nigeria. And as
you know, I've been very vocal calling out the mass
murder of Christians over fifty thousand Christians have been ordered
in Nigeria. Since two thousand and nine, over twenty thousand
churches and schools have been destroyed, burned to the ground.
And you have Boko Haram and other radical Islamic terrorist
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groups that are targeting and persecuting Christians in particular. And
I will tell you the government of Nigeria is very
unhappy with me. They have decried my saying this. I
have introduced legislation to designate them a country a special
concern And the government in Nigeria is very unhappy. And
I've said, look that there are far too many government
leaders who have turned a blind eyed to what is happening,
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who have acquiesced in what is happening, who are enforcing
either Sharia laws or blasphemy laws and facilitating the persecution
of Christians. And as I said, the Nigerian government has
been vigorously resisting me in this. Give me your judgment.
What do you see happening in Nigeria and what do
you think is actually the truth.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Nigeria is the most important African country, largest population, and
obviously there's a vying for control between on the one hand,
the Islamic states of Nigeria and the Christian States of Nigeria,
and it used to be about fifty to fifty. But
(12:17):
because the Islamist movement Bokoharam and others, they want to
apply force that Ji had his force. It's sort of
gruesome killing that we've seen in October seven, twenty twenty
three in Israel. So what is going on in Nigeria.
The Islamists in Nigeria are killing Christians, They're burning their churches,
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they're raping their women, they are invoking blasphemilos. So in
the southern regions of Nigeria, Sharia law is the law.
And if you say Taed Cruz has you know he
said something bad against Islam, you can have a mob
come and lynch you and there's nothing you can do
about it. But then the government, it should be doing
something about it. And the government isn't doing anything about it. Now,
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what is the characteristic of the government of Nigeria. It's corrupt.
The elites in Nigeria, whether they're Muslim or whether they're Christian,
they're in this bubble, and I think that bubble has
to be burist in a comfort bubble. I don't really
think that they care about that much about or are
hell responsible or accountable or transparent for what is going
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on with a large majority of the Nigerian population. And
that's what you see. And we give a lot of
money as the United States and legitimacy to this government.
We've got to hold them accountable. And I couldn't be
more pleased that you are involved in this, Senator Cruz.
You're calling them out and you're going to say, if
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you want to be our Allian, our friend, we need
you to uphold your end of being a responsible and
responsive government. There's a goal.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
There are more Christians being murdered in Nigeria than in
any country on planet Earth. One thing you said that
I thought was interesting and I think many of our
listeners will not have heard this before. You said in
your judgment, Nigeria is the most important African country. To
tell our listeners why that is because many will will
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not have a deep familiarity with that.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It has the largest population, it has oil resources, the
population is very young, it's English speaking, highly educated. Let
me just give you an example. Kemi baranoch I hope
the future Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is from
Nigeria and is Christian. So if we were if you know,
in our relationship with right now Prussia, China, et cetera.
(14:43):
I think the continent as a whole, the continent of Africa,
which is home to over a billion people.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, and growing a young population that is growing.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's the youngest population and it's the only population on
planet art that is growing as happy as it's doing right.
And so Nigeria is strategically important. Nigeria is a sort
of country that should be our ally and there is
a huge Christian population that means they share norms and
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values with us, and we should not be abandoning Nigeria.
And so the population is pro American, but then they
are let down by their government. And I think that
can change if we were even to bring a little
bit of leverage down on them, because we have that leverage.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
When you say a little bit of leverage, what do
you mean, like, what would the leverage look like that
you think could could literally save lives, especially Christian lives
and Nigeria who are being attacked right now.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Well, it starts from the amounts of Development aid money
that we give them. We could apply sanctions we I
mean we.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Well, in my legislation with sanctions particular government officials, so
government officials at the local level who are engaged in
facilitating and acquiescing in this persecution. And so it's designed
to use the power of the US economy and US
sanctions to incentivize different behavior.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Absolutely and incentivized, as legitimates, is really important for them
to keep their money in America to you know, all
of these the private jets they come and they play
in America and American allies even when they play in Europe.
I think we have a say over that, but I
don't want to go into the details of that, but
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I think we can leverage our influence to make the
Nigerian government stop the violence immediately. They have shari a
lot in the southern regions. We can and then we say, oh,
human rights is that and other where you have Sharia law,
you do not have human rights? Are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Absolutely? Absolutely, And we need to stand up and we
need to fight vigorously to prevent it here in the
United States. Okay, final topic, and we're going to wrap
up in just a couple of minutes. But you were
born in Somalia, as you know. I've publicly called on
the Trump administration to recognize Somaliland as a separate and
independent nation. Tell our viewers what you think about that,
(17:29):
and if you think that makes sense, tell them why I.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Think we should reward Somali Land for what they have achieved.
They have been since nineteen six I mean the former
dictatorial government si Bar, they were massacred. They llewed into
becoming part of Somalia. They became part of Somalia and
they have come to live to regret it. But at
the moment, very quickly, they are the only viable nation state.
(17:57):
They have a homogeneous population, they speak one language, and
there is a narrative of national identity, of common suffering
but also common survival. You know, as a Somali, I
will tell you something I'm not. I'm an American, but
born in Somali. I will say that one of the
things that we Smaris excel at is in vengeance. But
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the leadership of Somaliland have decided after nineteen ninety one
that they are not going to channel the energy of
their population into vengeance but build into building. What is
a nation and they are economically violent. I think they
that may have oil and gas. I think that they
could be a strategic partner I admire.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And they want to stand with America. They are standing up.
It is in our national interest to Recognizeiland to have
a major ally on the horn of Africa that is
standing with us. That's significant. And look, I am someone
who is very much America first. We should be putting
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American national security interest first and recognize as Somali Land
enhances those interests.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Absolutely, they are absolutely on the same page as as
they Also they've recognized Israel. They have defined they have
a defined territory, they have a permanent population, they issue passports.
But the most important thing is that they hold elections
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one man, one vote for president, for parliament and local elections.
And you can come and survey those and see that
they are actually in some ways better than our American elections.
And so I think Somali Land should be rewarded for
the fact that they have built a nation. They do
not rely on development aid. They never relied on US.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Eight.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, so please vibrate them from what is Somalia Mogadishi,
which is just a broken hiding place.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, Jan, thank you for taking the time, Thank you
for joining us. I think this has been a very
informative podcast. I think our listeners are really going to
get a lot out of it. Let me encourage our
listeners share this podcast if you want your friends, your
family to understand, understand the threat of political Islam, what
it means, what it's meant in Europe, what it means
here in America. I think it is an incredibly important topic.
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It is a very real threat. It is a threat
that I am committed to combating. And one of the
purposes of this podcast is to equip you to give
you information that when you're talking with your friends and
families and colleagues and co workers, that you know the
truth and ayan I think this has been very, very
helpful to our listeners. So thank you so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
As before, If you want to hear the rest of
this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the
entire thing. I want to get back to the big
story number three of the week. You may have missed,
all right, So this one is just one of those
segments that I'm just going to enjoy Bill Gates as
(21:10):
a guy that was like the world's gonna end center
and we're all gonna you know die of heat and
global warming is real, and I'm investing in all these
projects and things, and the government should be doing the same.
And now he's like, all, right, screwed, it's not gonna happen.
It reminds me. I think it was Newsweek back in
the eighties where they said we're all going to freeze
to death from like arctic freezing of the entire globe.
(21:32):
That went away too, So they got it wrong in
the eighties. And now Bill Gates is admitting and Al Gore,
remember we were supposed to be dead like after ten years,
and that was like ten years ago when he made
his prediction that we're all going to die of global warming.
None of it's actually happened. And so now Bill Gates
like a right, screw it. I was wrong, I guess.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So it wasn't ten years, it was twelve years. And
for some reason for the apocalyptic left, the world is
always ending in twelve years. And that's been true for
about two decades now. They've been saying twelve years from now,
we're all going to die. Twelve years from now, we're
all going to die. And I got to say Bill
Gates was willing to be as hysterical as Greta, the
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European teenager who shut down the German economy because they
listened to a teenager and said, hey, why don't we
shut down all of our nuclear power plants? And then
they suddenly realized they couldn't power their country, and ironically enough,
instead they're now opening coal plants and polluting a lot
more so. The apocalypse the world is ending because of
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climate change. Well, look, all right, don't necessarily believe me.
Let me just read what Bill Gates has done. So
this is from Daily Wire. Microsoft co founder Bill Gates
has done and about face on climate change alarmism recently,
saying that there are more pressing matters people should be
worrying about instead. The seventy year old tech billionaire, who
has been an outspoken environmental activist for years, said as
(22:54):
much in a memo published Tuesday titled Three Tough Truths
about Climate It. Here's what he wrote. Climate change, disease,
and poverty are all major problems. We should deal with
them in proportion to the suffering they cause. The businessman
admitted that the Earth's temperature is not the most important
factor for improving life on the planet, and said the
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quote doom'sday view of climate change is wrong. Let me
let me read that again. Bill Gates said the doom'sday
view of climate change is wrong. Here's what he wrote. Quote,
although climate change will have serious consequences, particularly for people
in the poorest countries, it will not lead to humanity's demise.
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Shocking that, Bill Gates said that. And and and here
he goes on to say, quote what mean what does
that mean?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He can find his private jets now and like take
a nap, not be like having to buy carbon credits
or get on his shot. I'm just confided, I want
to be here. What does this free him up to do?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh no, no, the carbon credits scam is definitely still on.
But but but he's going to keep lying on his jets.
And remember, by the way, John Kerry the Zealot when
he discussed his private play and he said, you know,
he flies private because he says, really, for someone like me,
it's the only reasonable way to travel. Yes, but likely
the utter hypocrisy. But here's what Gates wrote. This is
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a chance to refocus on the metrics that should count
even more than emissions and temperature change. Improving lives our
chief goal should be to prevent suffering, particularly for those
in the toughest conditions who live in the world's poorest countries.
And he added quote, although climate change will hurt poor
people more than anyone else, for the vast majority of them,
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it will not be the only or even the biggest
threat to their welfare. And he wrote this seventeen page
analysis ahead of next months United Nations Climate Change Conference
in Brazil, hoping to shift funding away from climate initiatives
towards other endeavors that he now believes are more important. Look.
(24:57):
I don't know about you, but I'm not tired of winning.
I mean this is climate change was an ex.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So it's scam to make a bunch of money. Is
that what we can kind of get to here? It
was just about all of the money.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Money and power. There's a lot of money, a lot
of money, take power. Look look for for democrats. If
you are a socialist, if you are a communist, if
you are a comrade. Uh Mamdani, I assume he's a
climate change not I don't actually know that, but I
know he's a communist. And and and climate change was
the excuse for communists to seize control of our government
(25:32):
and and and that today's Democrat party, it was a
great we're all gonna die unless you let me, the
Democrat politician control the energy and business and your life
and and regulate every aspect of your life. The fact
that Bill Gates is making this change, it really shows
the momentum is moving and people are are are engaged
(25:54):
in just just common sense is coming back.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, and not only common sense, but like you look
at these solar farms, they're like being dormited right now,
Like they're just shutting them down because they just can't work.
They're not working in the pollution that comes actually from
the turbines and all the other things they are actually saying,
it's like having a real negative effect on the environment.
Shocker there. And then we also found out that like
a pension fund in California lost like seventy plus percent
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of the investment that they went in green alternative energy
that just came out, so like they screwed countless hardworking
even liberals in California with this crap.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And a point to understand, the climate change radicals have
consistently hurt the environment. They are bad on the environment.
If the only thing you care about, if you wake
up every morning praying to Mother Earth. If that's your
only voting issue, you should vote against Democrats. Why Let's
take for example Germany. The Greens forced nuclear power plants
(26:54):
to be closed. The result is today Germany is relying
more on coal, which is much much worse for the environment.
And what country is leads the world every year in
the reduction of carbon emissions?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That would be the United States of America? Do you
know why?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Look, this is a question. Actually I pose when I'm
when I'm in college campus, when I'm talking to college
kids and they're Bernie Sanders supporters and they're they're freaked
out about the climate, I'll ask him a question. I'll say,
tell me what human being has done the most to
reduce climate in our lifetimes? And inevitably they have no idea.
There is an objectively right answer. The right answer to
(27:36):
this is George Mitchell. Now, who is George Mitchell. George
Mitchell was a Texas oil man. He was the son
of a Greek goat herder, and George Mitchell is is
the man most responsible for pioneering fracking, and he did
it in the Barnett Shale under Fort Worth and Dallas.
Fracking unlocked the shale revolution, which resulted in massive production
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of natural gas, much of it in Texas, although also
in Pennsylvania and Ohio and other states across the country.
And the reason the United States every year leads the
world in the reduction of carbon emissions is because at
a wide scale level, we are replacing coal powered electricity
generation with natural gas powered electricity generation, and that pollutes
(28:26):
much much less, it emits much less carbon, and the
Greens and the Radical Dems have opposed that at every step.
By the way, do you know what country leads the
world in pollution?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That would be Communist China, which pollutes massively, and yet
the Biden administration bear hug them with all they had.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There you go, don't forget. We do this show to
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