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October 5, 2024 • 43 mins

In hour two of the Sports Gambling Podcast, Sean Green and Ryan Kramer play sports betting blackjack and preview week 5.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Sportscamiley Podcast live on b send these
Sports Betty Network. Here are your hosts, Sean Green and
Ryan Kramer.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I can't believe we're letting these guys on my network.
Welcome back everyone, Sports Give Him Podcast live shown Stacking
the Money Green with my partner and picks Ryan Real
Money Cramer, what's happening Creme Dog.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I've just really enjoyed all the ladder based memes and
gifts Dog that people send us, all in the name
of a good good ladder fund.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Sure, there you go. That's a fire truck ladder. Get
the stick. We'll be joined in the ten o'clock Local
hour by C. J. Sullivan aka the Laddie Daddy aka
the Man.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
In the Box to talk ladders.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
But why not get ahead of it, Ryan, give out
our ladders talk a little ladder workshop.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
We're gonna we start small, then we go big.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We start out with the step ladder aka only two steps,
but the second step you really go through the roof.
Let's walk through people, what we got for our step
ladder this week. I mean, Sean, I want you to
you got to take this one. This is okay, this
is your guy. Shout out to well. This is also
CJ's guy tight end for the Cincinnati Bengals, Eric Alt Junior.

(01:19):
One touchdown is plus six fifty two touchdowns. Skyrockets you
to one hundred to one. He is, yeah, you know, rookie,
but he's really making a name for himself. It's now
three games in a row with four catches. He led
all Cincinnati tight ends with with the with snapcount sixty

(01:41):
nine percent. Nice. He's really worked his way onto the
field being great for the offense. Now, most of his
stuff has been middle of the field, but I wouldn't
be surprised if they take a couple of shots to
him in the red zone.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Let him, let him get cooked a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Let and I think if you're the Ravens, you're gonna
do everything you can to slow down t Jamar Chase.
Ravens haven't been great against the tight end. This is
just to me an amazing price. Like he's a rookie.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
We don't know what the ceiling yet is for Eric
All Junior.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So maybe he is a guy who can show up
in a division game and gets you two touchdowns. We
don't know, but I'm certainly willing to sprinkle a Hunter
to one on two touchdowns in the anytime at six
point fifty feels pretty good? Am I crazy?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Kramer?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, And when offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher was asked about
eric Al's blocking style, he said, quote, I'll say this,
maybe it goes beyond willing and turns into eager, an
eagerness to be violent.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's probably a better descriptor.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, this sounds like a guy that's getting earning
snaps in the blocking game turning into looking like a
pretty good receiver. I mean, certainly better than that volleyball
player Mike Eseki. I love this play, especially in a
division game where you need guys that are gonna go
out there and be violent. Well, it's a perfect game.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Watch the AFC North perfect. It is probably the most
violent division in football. And when a coach goes out
of their way to highlight a player like that, that
means in the back of his mind he's gonna be
if he's close.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Hey, do I give it to this guy? Do I
give it to that guy? I mean he's not. No
one's accused Mikah Sicki of violence. Maybe the way he
attacks Wilson volleyball.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
But I mean the speaking of violence.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I don't know if you saw the shine Ocho Cinco
and uh, mister Harrison, James Harrison, who, by the way,
was just walking around Steelers training camp this offseason looking
at me. But Ocho Cinco and h Harrison are fighting
in an MMA fight. So oh, I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Right we interviewed.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Ocho Cinco, nice guy, very mellow, does not seem like
the kind of guy that's gonna be doing okay after
a brawl with James. Yeah, I mean just James Harrison
is the kind of like, literally, James Harrison is the
worst possible outcome if you turn down a dark I mean,
like if you did.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
A quick pull of like NFL players most likely to
kill someone with their bare hands.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
I think James Harrison would be like one of my
top five guesses.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
He's up there with Mike Tyson in terms of people
I don't want to get into it.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
An altercation compleatly crazy that you don't want to be
involved in.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Uh good, good James Harrison, good so.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Lovely man Thoughts and prayers, Rocho Sinko in that one,
what's our what's our house ladder? Right, of course, house ladder.
It's not no it's not crazy, but you can clean
the gutters with it. Maybe, uh maybe put the old
Christmas the star on top of the Christmas tree.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, to be careful.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You lean too much, you might fall onto the Christmas
tree and create a whole situation. No, we're gonna we're
gonna talk about a house, a responsible house ladder. We're
going to rushing yards. Yeah, and this week I think
when you look at the Denver Broncos running back room,
we're Jimmie Julia, McLoughlin, Hanks, but he just hasn't been
getting it done in the rushing game. We all got

(04:58):
excited about Tyler Baddie who renamed himself to Tyler Badet.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But then he goes out with us does.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
He's angry at his family, So I'm guessing he does
know what he want what it is if he wants
to tell his family that they're they're ass cleaners. Javonte
Williams comes into a situation where he can see some
serious volume against the Raiders team that has allowed teams
to have volume in the running game sean week one,

(05:25):
we remember JK. Dobbins only needed ten carries, but total
they got twenty one carries for one hundred and sixty
one yards against this Raiders team. The Panthers bell cow
performance by Chewba Hubbard twenty one for one fourteen and
then not a ton of work needed from the Browns
last week. That was kind of a tough one. We'll
get to that in a second. But Javonte Williams fifty

(05:48):
one and a half rushing yards is the base of
this ladder. Very reasonable for a guy who could be
a bell cow in a game where.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Sean we think the Broncos could be up in this game. Yeah,
controlling the clock with the running game sixty we're gonna
jump up to sixty nine and a half yards plus
two forty five eighty nine and a half rushing yards
just plus five ten shot.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, he's coming off a game where you know,
that was a super ugly game against the Jets, got
no help from the passing game, Jets knew they were
going to run the ball, and he's still won sixteen
for seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
And so then we get to ninety nine and a
half rushing yards eight till I realized I added an
extra leg maybe or maybe the maybe the graphic has
an extra leg, but the top of the top wrong
eleven to one for one hundred and nine rushing year.
That might actually be ninety nine and a half rushing yards.
I'm not sure, but either way, Javonte Williams in a

(06:42):
game where maybe we finally see the guy who was
a first round pick in.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
A game where they a couple of touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Know him getting slow, you know, coming along slow.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
The injuries in the Broncos running running back room creating
tons of opportunity. I mean, Javonte Williams running for one
hundred and twenty would happy shocking at all. Parlay that
with the Broncos late in the two and a half
and you got yourself a little SGP from SGP. Yeah,
I like Javonte a lot here, So I'm with you, Caramer.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's gross too, which part of what I liked about it?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Really you think it's a little gross.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I think it's very gross.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay, the Broncos offense in general, playing about.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
The Broncos offense, that's what makes it easy to get
On the end.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You see the clip of Sean Payton talking about Marvin Mims.
He loves Marvin Mims and he's he's fooled fantasy owners,
prop Betters into like backing Marvin Mims and a beat
reporters like, yeah, so it seems like Marvin Mims isn't
really a part of the offense. He's like, I don't
know about that. The guy's like, well, he's only gotten
two catches this season, goes he's a big part of
the script. I can show you the script. He's I

(07:48):
don't know why he keeps trying to hype up Marvin
Mims to the public when they're not going to use him.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I think they've maybe maybe they've smoked some weed together.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, Google Google alleged Sean Payton smoking a bong video.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh is that not him?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, it says I like him. I don't know if
he we we can't confirm that. But if i'd guess
whether or not that was Sean Payton, I would make
it a minus two thousands.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
And if you if you tuned into a recent pardon
my take, they kind of got into the shadow suspensions
of Sean Payton. Oh and uh yeah, maybe basically saying
that the bounty gate stuff wasn't really about that. There
was a situation with some pills that had gotten mission missing.
Yea and the Saints didn't do enough to.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Take fun fun rabbit hole to go down on in
the internet.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Honestly, if you want to have fun, just look at
all the stuff the Saints have done that have been
shady and crooked over their time.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's a long list of bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Ryan, you know who's not bad the fire department. Shout
out to them, We're risking their lives to put out
these fires. Get the stick and the fire truck ladder.
What do we got for this week's fire truck ladder?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Cramer?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, I think if you dove into the reports out
of Brown's Land this week, you would find a lot
of Amari Cooper talking about how he let his team down. He'd,
of course, you remember that that big drop in the
loss against the Raiders. Amari Cooper is a professional receiver.
We rarely hear bites from him because he's not a
guy that complains. He's not really a guy who talks

(09:22):
to the media a ton at all, and he's disappointed
in himself because he let the team down. Now they
have the best matchup Amari Cooper could have, going against
the secondary of the Washington Commanders, who has a couple
underweight defensive backs. This is an absolute smash spot a
Marii Cooper's his receiving prop this.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Week, Sean, I get it. We're betting onto Shawn Watson.
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
A lot of quarterbacks have had good games and there
do I mean you saw that?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
What was it like? An eighty yarder that got called
back for a phantom holding penalty? I was on the Raiders.
I loved it. But Brown's backers got to be, you know,
super steemed after that one. And Cooper is there guy
in this this this commander's secondary. I don't know what
happened with Arizona that they weren't able to test him,
but you can throw on this commander's defense.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Amari Cooper just to get fifty one yards gets him
over his bottom rung of the ladder. Yes, that's that's insane.
We jump up to sixty nine and a half, it's
plus two forty five. Eighty nine and a half is
plus five to ten. Ninety nine and a half is
eight to one. And for him to get one hundred
and ten yard sean eleven to one.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
So again he said he let the team down. He's
got over one hundred and ten. He's gotten one hundred
and ten yards or more twenty six times in his
career shown, including a couple Cleveland situations.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying Amari Cooper is as
good as Jamar Chase, but Jamar Chase six for one
eighteen against this commander's defense. So I think there's going
to be opportunities for this, uh, you know, for this
for this Browns offense, as ugly as it is to
be back in the Browns and Deshaun Watson, I think
you got it at least like the Cooper props.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right last year on the road in Houston, Amari Cooper
catches fifteen of eleven or eleven to fifteen targets for
two hundred and sixty five yards sewn. Yeah, that's the
kind of game I'm envisioning, right.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
This is a smash we do.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
We get in on the two touchdowns as well. And
we were talking about producer Justin.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, if you're getting yeah, producer Justin likes the Amari
Cooper two touchdown props.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
If he's getting this many receiving yards, he might stumble
into a couple of touchdowns as well.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
In four of the five biggest yardage games of Amari
Cooper's career, he's had two or more touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Let's smash it more NFL game Previous Sports Game of Back.
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(12:01):
Sean Second Money Greenwan's my partner in picks, Ryan Real
Money Cramer, what's happening Creme Gonk.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
There's some mutiny up in New England.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Oh yeah, they're they're they're ready to over well, and
we didn't talk about it because we haven't talked well.
We will talk about the Raiders, but it seems like
there's a mutiny there, which is hilarious because they are
actual Raiders.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
There's like a ship mutiny analogy there.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's uh on the Dolphins. You got one a flint
by land to it by sea. We got the Dolphins
coming to town and somehow you got Snoop Huntley, Snoop
laying a point on the road here against the New
England Patriots. This move has to be mutiny based. I
doubt it's from Andre Stevenson's based. I don't know what

(12:45):
to take of this, Sean, because on one hand, I
don't really want anything to do with the Dolphins right now.
On the other hand, I don't really want any anything
to do with the Patriots right now.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, Ryan, I would never tell someone not to bet
on an all game right if it goes against my
whole ethos, it's bad for my business, bad for Vison.
We want people betting.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I love betting.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
This is a game you might not need to bet on,
but if you do, I think you.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Got to take the home team and the Patriots short week.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Is that a lean or? No?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I know Leans. We've been going after people.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
If you see someone on Twitter social media using the
word lean, feel free to hit them with the leaning
tower piece of gift or lean that like drank the
Southern Rappers drink the Purple drink. Hit them with that
gift tag us in it. Will reply, I just like
the guy, you know, some taut posting a bunch of
Leans and all these leaning tower pieces hit them.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I do think the play here is the Patriots one.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Just this Dolphins team just seems completely cooked offensively. Now
you gotta go on the road on the short week.
It just seems like situationally, it's a tough spot for
the the uh for the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
I understand if you're like.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hey, I want to I don't want to back the Pats,
but especially at minus one, who are the Dolphins to
be favored against.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Anyone, especially on the road.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Mike McDaniel has just been brutal without Tua, I know,
you know, and he was seen as like a good
head coach. If you're a good head coach, you gotta
get a little bit more out of the quarterback situation
than what you've been getting with, you know, between Skyler
Thompson Tyler Huntley. I get it, they're not amazing quarterbacks,
but you do have Jayalen Wattle, Tyreek Hill, Raheem mostert

(14:33):
Achan like you should be able to figure out something,
and they just have gotten nothing going on. They just
lost Jalen Phillips on the defensive line for the rest
of the season. So I think I think the Pats
are gonna be able to run on the Dolphins, and
that's the only.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Really plus matchup I see in this game.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Maybe Christian Zalez gets an interception here, so I think
I'd take the Pats here.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
But I understand if you don't want to bet on
the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
And I would call to everyone's a ten the ridiculous.
I think at twelve players that the Patriots have listed
as questionable on their injury report.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
They got Belichick doing the injury report.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Ryan, Well, again once, I'm just highlighting these teams that
aren't taking it seriously.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I mean it certainly.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I would imagine has given some people the idea that
it's worth betting against the Patriots that they're so banged up.
I'm with you, not gonna do it, not gonna bet
on this Dolphins team.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
That offense looks good, but there's a lot of complex
stuff that's going on, and clearly they don't spend any
time with the backup quarterback, and clearly it matters. And sure,
maybe it's starting number two for a Huntley and maybe
he gives you a little bit of mobility with the legs.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Even if even if the Dolphins offense looks okay, Ryan,
couldn't the Patriots do what the Titans did last week
on offense of just pounding the rock with Gibson, with Stevenson,
give you Kobe Burssett, a veteran quarterback, a chance to
make a couple plays.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, and I would say I don't love it in
a teaser. Definitely do not.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Tease this game under any circumstance.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
No, no, nice preseason total thirty five and a half too. Yeah,
all right, next up, we got the We were just
talking about this game the Cleveland Browns. Amari Cooper fil
felt he let down the team. Now they're on the
road against the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Shown.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, Jaydon Daniels as he collected his MVP and Rookie
of the Year.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yet because there is his completion percentages like Tom Brady
two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It is unstoppable.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
A lot of those passes were barely to the line
of scrimmage and to the running backs earlier in the year.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
But he's looking good of late.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
He looked great against the Cardinals defense, which not very good,
and so you got it. You know, in general, they've
played some really bad defenses here recently, so you have
to kind of give yourself a little bit of pause.
Plus we have that whole like as teams get tape
on guys, they learn how to play against them.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And it's Cliff Kingsbury.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Cliff Kingsbury, who, by the way, September's best months and
then like the leaves when they change colors, his offense
changes colors and completely falters.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, and we're seeing this number three, laying three and
a half for the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'll say this.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I heard Peter Schrager say out loud on national media
that you know, Cliff created this super playbook and he
went into the lab and then he adjusted the super
playbook just for Jade and Daniels, and it's like, this
is it.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Okay, Maybe maybe Daniels got.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
The air raid Ryan, but it struggled at the NFL
level to be consistent through an entire NFL season, And
I worry that's what's gonna happen here. And you're if
you're if you're betting the Commanders, you're betting them at
the highest possible price, the insane top of the market.
Like preseason, I think this was Brown's favored by three.

(17:53):
It's like a six and a half point swing.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, And I mean that's but then it does involve
us betting on DeShawn Watson. It does involve us betting
on a team that which, by the way, they they're
really healthy. Now that's the argument for them and Joker's back.
They should have success in the passing game. If Watson's
gonna look good against anyone, this is the week that
he's gonna look good, and.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I guess, I guess.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I don't really want to be in a position to
lay a lot of points with the commanders yet. I
know they showed me last week. But I'm a big
fan of fading recency. So we're gonna grossly take the
points with Deshaun Watson. Yes, and hopefully we don't have to,
you know, admit our sins.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
There and kind of Oh my god, yes, Michigan State kicks.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
A pointless Oh my god, there's a flag decline it?
Come on, what is what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Don't don't worry about this flag. This is stupid.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Sorry, breaking new Oh we got a live sweat this?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Oh no, oh it's declined. Okay, thank god, don't take.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh what a great backdoor cover by Michigan State.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Check out the college our College Football Picks podcast. But
Ryan late injury news. Brian Robinson Jr. Doesn't seem like
he's gonna go, and he's been he's been quiet. Obviously.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Jayden Nantiels has looked awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Not to diminish what he's done, but having that running
game with Brian Robinson Junior has kept them in positive situations,
has allowed them not to punt. I wonder if they're
gonna be as good without him there and the Cleveland Browns,
if there is any fight left in this team, I
think you see it here.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think between Eckler being back from
the concussion, but also McNichols looked pretty good last week,
So I don't know how much the Brian Robinson then
concerns me. If I'm a Commander's backer, I think to
me more, you know, I'm selling myself on the idea
that in Djoku coming back is gonna help unlock this offense,
and this is more of just an idea that high

(19:47):
point for the commanders.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Let's fade him, all.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Right, we got we got a doozy oh yeah, out
up at elevation Sean. I'm sure you'll tell us exactly
how high it is there at my ninety two eighty.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
It's on that it's on their helmets in case they forget.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
The Raiders coming to town against the Broncos, who look
like they've steadied the proverbial ship no pun intended. Broncos
are winning games without playing any sort of offense. Meanwhile,
the Raiders, the Raiders are all over the map. They're
winning games. But the locker room has been lost. Maybe
the locker room hasn't been lost all the way. DeVante

(20:21):
Adams has a hamstring injury. Maybe it's not actually a
hamstring injury. Max Crosby, maybe he plays this week? Well,
is this the week we see aid and O'Connell feels
like a little bit like we got sand flowing through
an hour glass. I'm not any I'm not interested right now.
I was an Antonio pierceky in the offseason. Really stupid
take by me. Horrible take by me. I like Brock

(20:43):
Bowers in this game, but I'm fading the Raiders manne
be the Broncos laying the points.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, I like the Broncos a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Here.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
This to me is, hey, they got.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Some confidence on the road.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
This defense is just awesome right now, I think.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, they shut down the Bucks, maybe a sleepy
spot for the Bucks, shut down the Jets, maybe a
sleepy spot for the Jets. But still to go on
the road and hold both teams under ten points, I
think certainly deserves some praise. And now you come back
home with a weird aud of sync Raiders team Minshew
without DeVante Adams, without Zamir White, ak Zeus Ryan going

(21:20):
against his Broncos defense.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
The Broncos defense I think is just going to control
this game.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
On the offensive side, I think you can run on
this Raiders team, establish it as they like to say,
and put the Broncos bo Nicks in some positive situations.
I don't think Max Crosby is gonna play because even
Antonio Pierce said I got to protect Max from Max,
which that to me is something you say. You're you're
making it so your guy is saving face by not playing.

(21:47):
And the coaching disadvantage Sean Payton versus Antonio Pierce is
massive here. Broncos are fourth and defensive EPA. I agree
Brock Bauers might have a nice spot here, but you
know Patrick Surtain versus the passing game of this Raiders team.
I love the Broncos here. I think this is a
great spot for them, and I just don't see a

(22:07):
lot of matchups the Raiders are winning in this game.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Broncos one player out, that's it. Everyone else full participate
Raiders seven eight players out, five players question, and their
offensive line is really banged up.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I don't think tough spot.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't think he Pinchu is gonna have much time
to throw. I think he's really really going to struggle,
and I like the Broncos at home at elevation, this
defense will carry him. Sports betting Blackjack. When we return
here on.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
VSA, Welcome back everyone, Sports Game of Podcast Live Sean
Second Money Green with my partner in picks Ryan Real
Money Kramer.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
What's happening Kramer.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Ingrats on your Michigan State victory.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Oh yes, that was quite the sweat gave it out
on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
I think it was. Was it twenty four or twenty
four and a half?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Twenty four down? Okay, Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, so it was sitting at a push from what
we gave it out. But I actually bet it twenty
three and a half. I go, what are the chances
this half point is going to matter? Of course it did,
but Michigan State kicking a pointless field goal to cut
it to twenty one, but not boiless to me and
my bank roll. Chout out to me.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Nice hit.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
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Should you stay fire, I'll stay I old to live dangerous.
Let's see what the guys choose this week on sports
betting blackjack.

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Sports betting blackjack very easy, very fun, and you can
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this weekend.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
And much like in.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Blackjack, you don't get to choose what cards you're delt.
Whatever card you're delt, you have to make a case
for that bet right away on the spot. Sorry, Ryan,
I was I was distracted by Syracuse winning in overtime
and the book going nuts. Even though we're in a
running red country here. It was there's definitely a lot

(24:23):
of Syracuse backers out here.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Might have been cries. There's definitely more UNLV fans out there. Yes,
would you like a cut?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sure? Oh a cut this week?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yes, everyone likes to some one probably made fun of
you for not cutting previous show.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Oh no, there's nothing better than live television guys cutting
a deck.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Oh, we are dealing cards that most people can't see.
All right, dealer's showing a four. Your your first card,
five of hearts.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Five of hearts? Okay, Derrick Henry one hundred and twenty
five rushing receiving yards plus two seven.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
We had this last week and it hit for us,
Yes it did.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I mean, really, I should just bet whatever the blackjack
cards tell me to because the blackjack cards are on
a heater. And as much as I do like Bengals
in this game, I think it's about the Bengals offense
being able to move the ball against the Ravens defense.
I still think even though Derrick Henry has had what
is it like, fifty plus touches his past couple of games,

(25:19):
you know, one twenty five seems very in the realm
of possibility.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Hendrickson is still not one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
There's a bunch of guys banged up on this Cincinnati
defense and Cincinnati we were talking a little more on
the podcast Sports Giving the Backs Smash at Subscribe button.
But Ryan, you were pointing out, like Cincinnati's defense is situational.
They get up for the game against the Chiefs. I
think they're going to get up somewhat against this Ravens team.
But I mean this is a volume thing. If they're

(25:46):
gonna give Dereck Henry twenty five carries, which they probably
will again one hundred and twenty five rushing receiving very
much in the realm.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Of possibility, you get the nice plus two to seventy price.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, they've they've allowed running backs to run for worth
of one to twenty five in two of their four games.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So yeah, so and you're getting plus two seventy even
though I'm on the Bengals, that's not a bad card.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
All right, let's see what I got here. Three of diamond's. Okay,
we're all starting out with some nice double down looks.
Mike Williams over thirty five and a half receiving yards.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Ron, You've been a big fan of Mike Williams.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Uh yeah, sure, No, I definitely have not been a
huge fan of him. I would say that going to
a receiver that isn't Garrett Wilson because he's just a
no show and he's probably getting sad that DeVante Adams
is about to come to town and be.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Aaron Rodgers new bff.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I think Alan Lazard is if you can say
catching steam for Alan Lazard, he's catching steam. So the
angle here would be the same reason I like Jordan
Addison on the other side of this game.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
The matchup suits the number two receiver, and you.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Know, if Aaron Rodgers is doing things right, maybe he
hits Mike Williams with a couple of back shoulders, you know,
the kind where he jumps up, makes an awesome catch,
comes down and looks shaken up. That's the classic Mike
Williams catch. Only two of them needed, probably for thirty
five and a half.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
He's a massive target, which in a slow, sloppy game
that might play out like it's someone you know, I
could see here and Rogers throwing a couple of jump balls.
You're throwing Mike Williams way getting over the thirty five
and a half feels feels doable.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a bit of a stretch,
I'll be honest, but more than a strong lean that's
a bad You're gonna get hit with some lean graphics.
Please don't hit me with a lean graphic, not a
lean gift. I'm a big fan of the city at Pizza,
all right.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I actually went to the Leaning Tower Pisa. Yeah, and
you can climb up to the top of the tower.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Is it scary?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's scary is probably not the right word, but it is.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Upper deck vibesaky as hell because you're like, wait, this
thing should be falling over, and they assure.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
You a million times, but hey, don't worry. This has
been reinforced. It's structurally sound. But like when you look
at it and you're like, wait, I'm gonna walk in
that thing, and like walking it up is like you
get dizzy because you're like walking up but sideways.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
It's like the elevators in the luxer Right.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
No, no, it's totally safe. That's just like that Eddie
Murphy joke. Sure, all right, Sean, here we go.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Can't do any of the rest of that joke.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Oh no, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
The rest of the joke is NSFW five of hearts,
seven of hearts.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Well it's four, okay, I got a seven of hearts now.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Jamante Williams rushing receiving yards of course, only seventy five
plus one oh five. This is interesting because obviously we
like this as well.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
We just gave out to Jamonte Williams ladder.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
But what do you think about Javonte Williams receiving yards, Ryan,
is that a market you're looking to get at. I
like our ladder of just going rushing yards. But the
rushing receiving yards being at seventy five, I don't know.
Has he been getting a ton of catches?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think the angle is he could be out there
a lot this week. Yeah, and so sure, prefer the
rushing only, but.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think if you're talking yourself into Javonte Williams receiving yards,
which I apparently am doing here.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Uh, Sean Payton wanted to get bo Nicks easy throws.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
That's how you do it right, certainly being able to
break a tackle or two against a possibly winded Las
Vegas Raiders team at elevation.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Give me more Bonnicks where he fakes the screen to
one side and does that sweet spin to the other side.
Drew Breves was very good at that. Yeah, no short
passes could help you here, But I just think he's
gonna have a big game. So either way, I like.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It all right.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
My next card Jack of Spade. So I'm sitting on thirteen,
you're sitting on twelve. Dealers got a four horrible jack
of spades? Oh Steph Diggs? Anytime touchdown score? What am
I gonna do here?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Do we? Are we not offering surrender? This week?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Show sportspending by well, it is a revenge game. These
coaches now more than ever, tend to be complicit to
the emotions of their young players who have to show
out and when the game means more. Look, I think
Diggs is gonna want to show something because there there's
been at minimum rumors and rumblings that he he was
not the what the glue in the locker room and

(30:04):
so yeah, I think that we've seen at times Stroud
trying to squeeze it to.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Him, even though he has the angle, is that he
has gone out of his.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Way to try and get Tigs out of Arch.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Is crazy because he has Nico Collins, the guy who's
leading the league in such a chemistry with so plus
one forty. Sure, because it's gonna be a vibes game
and Diggs will score because Demiko Ryans wants those vibes.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
You want to hit?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
No, well, we were playing with the guy last week
who was probably would have hit here, maybe would have stayed.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
It was all whatever the cards said to do, he
would do the opposite.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Now he wasn't counting cards.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
There are certain circumstances where maybe a twelve against the
four you would hit. No, I am playing, I am
playing you know, basic blackjack strategy six deal shoe or
six deck shoe three to two, So I will be
staying Ryan, I'm not counting the cards. Yeah, and we'll
play the dealer's hand. So the dealer has a four
and a nine.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And you would never hit a twelve against the four.
I'm I'm not gonna let you say that out loud.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
National, I mean people are hearing you are say that
out loud? What did I say say? There might be
scenarios you're feeling.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't know every scenario.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't want to. I don't want to say there's
no possible situation where you would hit a twelve against
the four, and then someone who knows blackjack more than
me to correct me.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
So no, I I yeah, maybe, I'm I'm I would
never hit it. Yeah, No, no strategy would tell you
to do. You know whose strategy would tell you to
hit it? The guy we were playing with last week.
His strategy.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
So the dealer is a thirteen.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
We want a monkey, bust them out, Ryan, Come on,
here we go, OK, and we got a bust. Let's see, uh,
a dealer, a dealer got a king. Dealer got twenty three.
Sorry dealer, we win King of Diamonds Dak Prescott over
ten and a half run.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
The dealer got a bad one.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Plus one fifty five.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I helped the dealer here.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I so, I think the way to talk you into
this is fairly It's fairly easy.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Is Dakota ring Press is going to be running.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
For his gosh darn life with TJ Watt breathing hot
fire down his neck. Is their rookie right turn style
or sorry tackle a little slip there right as he
gets just completely devastated by TJ. Watt and the rest
of the sick defenders on the Steelers, I think you
might have to run him getting over ten and a

(32:22):
half rushing yards. As much as I'm gonna be on
the Steelers fading the Cowboys, especially in the spot you
could talk me into into Dak Prescott over ten and
a half rushing yards.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I'm not going to say anything positive about the cowboy there.
They're recording this show.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
This is justin can you can we bleep that out
for any possible replays?

Speaker 4 (32:42):
But it's him running for his life in garbage time.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I think it's okay to give out the Dak Prescott
over ten and a half Rush.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I like the idea of their a knight named Rain
and some dragon named TJ Watch.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh yes, Raining Fire.

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Speaker 3 (35:02):
Tie probably goes with the character Cardinals taking on the Niners. Boy,
Cardinals really looked bad last week against the Fighting Commanders,
and the Niners talk about teams with drama. Now not
only is Christian McCaffrey dealing with two, not one, but
two Achilles situation. Oh man, George Kittle, and I'm blanking

(35:27):
on the name Sean linebacker. It looks like they're going
to activate a tight end and a linebacker off pre
practice squad. So it seemed Warner. I'm sorry, Fred Warner.
So it seems like they could be short some players.
I know some seven and a half's have moved to
seven and then what comes out today? They are fighting
back the players in the locker room against the quote

(35:48):
unquote meat watchers. I think this is what they were called.
It seems like there's a bit of a rift between
some of the reporters that cover the team in San Francisco.
Kyle Yustchek is posting on x about how some of
these beat reporters need to be excommunicated, the players associations
posting stuff about it. I saw a great meme where

(36:10):
like forty nine ers should be focused on winning a
Super Bowl, but they're focused on getting people out of
the locker room. It does seem like maybe there's some
distractions in San Francisco. They have a short week on
deck with Seattle on Thursday Night football next week, and
this is the this is the Kyler Zone catching a
bunch of points. Back doors open. I'm gonna take Arizona.

(36:34):
Don't love it worth noting it is a Closure Eyes
special because Arizona underperformed the spread last week by twenty
one points or more. And I go to that church,
so I'm gonna stick with my religion. Take the Cardinals.
And but I also like fading whatever drama's going on.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Do you say you don't love it, Ryan, So I
would be surprised to find it in your best Bets tonight.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well, I don't love it in the sense that it's
a Closure Eye special. So I love it so like
the same reason I didn't like that, I love the
because it's a Closure Eyes special.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I get you.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I don't love it, but it checks a lot of boxes.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
And then the glorious off field stuff for the forty
whether it's Brandon and I.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
It can't seem distracted, and every week it's something new.
We just posted a clip from the podcast. There's rumors
circulated a ken I'm not reporting it. I'm just reporting
hearing a rumor that this could be Christian McCaffrey's last
season in the NFL. I think this double achilles tendonitis
is super serious. And if you remember who it was,

(37:34):
Drake Greenlaw who blew out his achilles in the Super Bowl. Correct, correct, Yes,
And he was dealing with achille tendonitis leading up to
the Super Bowl, did his best to manage it.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Eventually it did blow out.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Now, the fact that Christian McCaffrey has double achilles tendonitis,
it's gonna make it very tough to come back. I
heard the treatments in Germany weren't as effective as they
had dreamed of. And I mean when asked about it,
John Lynch, they're asking about ramping Christian McCaffrey back up
into the into the practice and you know, getting used

(38:07):
to running routes and catching passes and you know, doing
whatever he does. He was the phrase God willing, So
that to me is not a good side for this
forty nine ers team.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Now what's God got to do with it?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean, if you're saying God willing about a player returning,
I don't think you're very optimistic. But in this game itself.
I think it's easy to look past this Cardinals team.
And again, the closure eye special is teams who got
destroyed coming back. I feel like they've played him close
a couple of times recently in the Gannon era that
wasn't with Kyler.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Hopefully Kyler scrambles.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
It was like a weird thing where Kyler went out
of his way to prove maybe he was a pocket
passer and didn't want to scramble.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Hopefully we don't see that against the Niners.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
I'm with you. I'll take the Cardinals and the points.
Maybe falling a little bit here for a trap because
it does seem like the forty nine ers have done
a decent job putting away bad teams, which the Cardinals
might be. But again, close your eyes specials. What's carrying
me through this? So yeah, I'm with you. I'll take
the Cards fill seventy and a half.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, not since twenty twenty one have the Cards beaten
and or would have covered this number against the forty
nine ers. So we are expected to a bit of
a step up. But again, this is the situation. I
love I love Kyler for and you know, like you said,
recentcy fading recency.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Is the real core of the Closure Eyes special.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
All right, moving along to speaking of recency, Green Bay Packers, well,
they seem to be good with their backup quarterback, not
good with their starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
But they paid a lot of money to Jordan Love.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Now owing to I mean, I can't even open an
app without just on our accounts. Twitter, Instagram just bombarded
with up you versus the Packers have been a great storyline.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, the Packers fans trying to hack our Instagram account.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I mean, look, I'm just saying facts. Love has not.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Looked like an elite quarterback. He's thrown four interceptions on
the year. He's laying three points here on the road
in Los Angeles. Sure, the Packers will have the stadium.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Your receivers banged up, We'll be You'll be home.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I mean, look the Ram whatever, I mean, all
the Rams fans have converted to Chargers fans. That's the
only way you can sell me on how that stadium
is filled for Chargers games. But yeah, Green Bay is
a little banged up, and so are the Rams. But
to me, this is just a situation where until I
see Jordan Love deuce the garbage stats, I don't care, buddy,

(40:32):
these off target throws, these back foot throws.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Your your your leg is still probably a little banged up.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, I just don't I don't see it yet, And
I can't lay three points with this guy on the road.
Maybe if they were starting Malik Willis and this point
spread moved in accordance, I would like the Packers here.
They when they had Malik Willis and they rolled out
a deliberate run game. This looked like a team that
would be very difficult to deal with because those teams
knew they were going to run the ball and they

(40:59):
were still able to pull that off.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
But then you bring.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Back in Jordan Love. You get to throwing the ball
down the field. You get the what nice anticipation throw.
Reid scores a touchdown. Half of those touchdowns that they're
scoring are just gimme balls. They're throwing it up. It's
a fifty to fifty ball and the receivers are making place.
And so yeah, I'll be happy to fade that well
on the road.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Like Christian Watson, Romeo Dubbs both out. I think that
obviously is huge for a Rams team obviously that has
struggled a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I do.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I like the pacing here. I'm not a totals guy,
but I do think we could we could smash that
over forty nine. I like the Rams here. I like
the Rams. I like Stafford as a home dog in
the McVeigh era. They've been pretty good ats after a loss,
especially at home. Six and three ats after a loss
coming back at home. That feels like a nice trend,

(41:51):
and it kind of makes sense like they've done well
in dome environments. I think they're gonna be able to
throw on this Packers team. If you listen to our
props podcast, one of my ladders I liked was Kyron
Williams receiving yards. I think that's a really good matchup.
They're coming off a four reception game and I think
the Packers could be in trouble there. They seem to

(42:12):
struggle against receiving running backs. I think Sean McVay will
give some easy stuff for Stafford and Whittington had a
nice receiving day a last week against a much better
Bears defense on the road. Now he come back on
the turf. I think Parkinson, as mentioned in the first
touchdown angle.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
He could be good.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I think the Rams and McVeigh are building something here
with this offense that's gonna keep them in this game.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I'm with you. I'll take the home dog.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
And by the way, we did just an excellent filibuster
job by us to prevent us from having to spend
too much time talking.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
This is a great spot for the Giants, Ryan, it
is They're coming off Thursday night and Seattle is coming
off a Monday night game or sorry, what was it
was Monday night? Yes, against the shootout where they were
running all over the field, couldn't get an incomplete pass,
and we shout out to Noah being a host to

(43:06):
the college baseball experience turned us onto the biting kneecap
tread teams are zero and three straight up and ats
after the week after they face the Detroit Lions. If
you look at that injury report, the Seattle Seahawks incredibly
incredibly banged up Giants are the ugly dog this week.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Put the paper bag over your head and just fire.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
No singletary, no neighbors.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
If you had to ask Tyrone Tracy Darius Slayton, they
might be good ladder considerations.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Makes no sense, but Giants will cover the spread.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know what does make sense. Welcoming on friend of
the program CJ. Salvin to give you some more NFL
prop ladders when we return Sports Game on the podcast
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