April 17, 2026 • 28 mins
Angela Oakley Talks Charles Oakley Rumors, Housewives Drama, Pinky Cole + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Back.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know, we stand in Angela.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
But Angela Oakley is here, and let's not forget you
did your first interview for Real Housewives of Atlanta right
up here.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, the Angela's are squared, We are united, and we're back.
I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Okay, Well, I want to say season, your second season
on the show has started. You're a lot of people's
favorite as far as like the newbies from last year.
So how does that feel after that first season for you?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It feels good. I'm so happy the fans took to
me and supported me and helped me through because it
was tough. First season was tough.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Girl. They was throwing stuff at you everything.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm like, oh, it was so much happening. So the
fans supported me and I needed the support along with
you know, of course, Charles, but we made.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know, Chars is so funny because I understand his
sense of humor, Like I get.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Baby, the world don't the world is slow to Charles. Yeah, yeah, Charles, Charles,
And yeah, you'll see more of Charles.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It feels like he's also learned, Like Dann, I can't
just be playing like that on TV.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Some things he can't say and some things he mean,
you know, I'm not gonnact like some certain things he
does mean. Well, you know, he means what he says.
But uh, he's of course now he's more sensitive to
how it makes me look when you know the world
doesn't understand him. So those are conversations we have at
home for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
All right, So we are two episodes in on this season.
Obviously it comes on every Sunday. Yeah, so let's let's
recap some of your moments from last season. And then
I know, right, but I can't even imagine because for you,
this is not a space you've been in before where
you had to like put all your stuff out there,
and it brought up a lot of old things. And
(01:48):
did you think about that? Like, I wonder if they're
going to bring this up, how am I going to
explain this?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know what? I did think about that. So I
was just like, let me bring it up, you know.
So a lot of things I was bringing up because
I'm like, I rather you hear it from me than hear,
you know, from anywhere else. And so I remember one scene,
Porte was like, does this girl have toretts like you talking?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm like, no, y'all, can have everything, you can have
all of me.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So I thought that was a good strategy, But now.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Like, oh, just and I always wonder how you truly
feel about things, because there were issues with Phaedra, and
it feels like that may carry over some but it
feels like you resolved it. And I'm like, I'm not
one hundred percent sure on what that is like because
Pedra may or may not have had some people come
and interrupt a moment and make it seem like Charles
(02:36):
was cheating on you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But then she said she didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, you know what, I believe what she says. Of now,
I believe what she says. And you know, that was
a rookie mistake taking information from somebody off the street,
like this guy just came up to me, you know, like, girl,
let me tell you about I'm like okay, yeah, yeah,
so I didn't know. I didn't have any guidance. I
didn't know how to vet you know, information that comes
to you. And once you know, I took my time
(03:00):
and you know, went through all evidence. I'm like, okay,
I just got played. Yeah, I have to go through
evidence like I was a detective all the way through.
And it took me a long time to let it go.
I didn't let it go right away. I was like, no,
I'm gonna find out for sure. And finally I'm like, okay,
I got played.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah we gotta Yeah, we got I played.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Also, I think when you know your foundation is strong enough,
you feel confident and comfortable. This season, You're like, look,
I don't care what y'all say, child's cheating with the
candy lady from down the block, whatever, I'm gonna stay
with him right.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, let's let's get a twisted. What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm not trying like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's just I'm not going to try to debunk anything
that comes his way or my way about him, because
I see that that's a strategy used to distract me,
take me down, whatever, And I'm just not playing that
game this year. But you know, I do care about
my husband.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
But I'm saying I understand what you mean when telling
you things. You can't just be.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like take like you just said, No, I never believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, there's I mean, they would have would have been
all out, they would have produced social seats. I never
believed them. I just felt like they had a lot
of audacity approaching me and I'm like, who are you?
Just somebody off the street and you get to walk
up on me, I'm looking around like who is this?
But you know, and all that being said, I just
feel like this year I'm going to show more. You know,
(04:23):
I'm secure in my.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Marriage right and on the show because I think it
takes some adjustment.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It does.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It is hard because you're not doing what you probably
would normally want to do, like you normally want to
really crash out, or you would normally probably never talk
to this person again. So I'm like, Okay, it's a
balance here, and I'm learning how to navigate in this balance,
and that's healing conflicts quick and you know, getting to
the bottom, finding resolution and a group of friends.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Who would you never talk to again if you didn't
have to.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I can't see. Oh, I feel like it's obvious. Oh,
but you know, I love all the ladies, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Even just also seeing everything else that's going on around
the show. I'm sure are some things you're discovering as
you're watching. Now. You and Drew do have a special relationship.
You're both from Chicago. Yeah, we are on the show together.
So just seeing what she's been navigating, because I feel
like a lot of people's personal things. And I was
just talking about Drew the other day because she's been
(05:29):
in the headlines lately. But something that Fred from Media
Takeout pointed out was when you see what somebody makes,
it's also because they have an LLC that gets money
and then they may pay themselves out of that LLC
that's all for tax purposes and business purposes. So we
can see those numbers and be like, that's all she makes,
but that doesn't necessarily know that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know, paints and an accurate picture of what she makes.
And I don't know what she made, you know, but
if she does have an LLC, of course the goal
is to you know, not pay taxes and to write
off everything. Your food, your your driving, meals everything. And
so by the time you do all that, you're probably
left with, you know, not a lot of money, but.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You also are in the financials and taxes.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I am. It's a busy time, right.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It is today my phone that's going crazy. It's April
fifteens and I have to do extensions. So when I
leave here, I got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, all this because people also have to understand that
you legitimately have businesses real estate investments, financial consultancy, running
a nonprofit.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, Charles, we have help with the nonprofit and Charles
Oakley Foundations, and we have help. So I don't do
that day to day, but I do help put on
a van, show up when he don't, you know, when
he does his drives and things like that. So we're
definitely passionate about that, but I don't run the day
to day of that. That's a lot. That is a
lot of work. Nonprofits are hard.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Listen, it is a lot, trust me, I know.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But today it's April fifteen, So make sure you guys
fole your extensions, do what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Pass that it's too late.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh it's late.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, entrance a cruise every day right when it does.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But here's the thing. A lot of people feel like
April fifteenth is doomsday, like, oh my god, I didn't file.
But if you get a refund, there is no deadline.
You have three years to file your tax return. So
those people who get tax refunds today, it's not the
last day or yesterday, you know, April fifteenth is not
the last day.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I do want to say, I don't understand. If I
was getting a refund, I'd be filing asap. Okay, yeah,
but a lot of money that you wait to the
last minute because owing money, I'd be.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Like, I'm gonna wait till exactly April fifteen. You're right,
but some.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
People want to plan vacations, like okay, I'm gonnet my
tax return. Save it for that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You don't save it up. I would have fouled immediately.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If I was getting money.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We do. I love it, Come file early, get it quick.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right, So let's let's recap some more things.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like I was saying, the other thing that happened was
and I saw this back and forth on social media
with Kelly and her restaurant. You guys in the last
episode were at the grand opening of her restaurant. But
unfortunately we can see that that didn't work out and
it's already closed. Yeah, So being that you're in the
financial space.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I feel like the ladies could use your help. You
know what.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's crazy because you know, Kelly's food is good. Shout
out that chicken is good. So shout out to Nana's
chicken and waffles. When she opened where she opened, I
was like, why did you pick this location? And she
was like, Angela, you could have told me so much
because all of my investment properties were in stand in
the location of that restaurant. And I was like, it's
not designed for you to thrive here. I'm sorry, no, no,
(08:32):
shade to the city. I don't have my homes going.
He took my homes. But what I'm saying is the
city was already stacked against her. So she realized that
I had a wealth of information, but she would never ask, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
If I were anybody like I would be like, we
had somebody right here on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean, but then she wasn't interested. I guess,
so she didn't think I had the information. But I'm like, no, Kelly,
you're gonna be fine. You're gonna it's just it's just
not set up for small black businesses. I'm sorry. And
so I think that played a part in her closing
as soon as she did, because you know, she was
shocked that I was aware. I was like, oh, yeah,
they find me for a loan on a house that
(09:12):
the bank took.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm like, how did own this house?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Anymore. They was like, you still got to pay this
fine and I had to pay.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
To pay it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I had to pay it. So how is the real
estate market now? Because it's been a wild time, and
I'm always interested in hearing what people who are investing
in real estate have to say, because we saw on
the first season that you were on some of the
things you were going through with trying to sell a
house that you had.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
To tell my investment properties. I will say now, it
is still very much of a buyer's market. You know,
interest rates are still high, buyers are not you know,
they can have the pick of the litters. Still a
ton of inventory out there, so now's the time to
find a good deal if you want to get one.
I'm seeing a lot of deals in the luxury space,
which brings me some comfort in knowing that, Okay, I
(09:54):
would have never made a profit if I didn't lose
them or not, I would have lost. It's tough out there.
It's tough in this economy as a whole.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah no, because I've done some real estate investments too,
and I'm like, let me chill out.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah please, I'm like, now, it's not the time, right,
It's too much going on war. Oh, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
People are definitely nervous about even wanting to sell their
homes right now too.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, you know what, because it's so many homes on
the market. I feel like town homes are struggling. A
lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Places are, and interest rates are, you know, higher than yeah,
so people are also. But I also think traditionally interest
rates were way higher than that before, right, like yeah,
and even after that, three like three percent was so low.
I felt like that was kind of an anomaly, like because.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That was on precedent. Yeah, that probably will never happen
in our lifetime, but at least let's get to the fours,
the five, right, But we're in six. You know, depending
on your credit you go to seven eight. It's expensive,
especially an investment. Yeah, investment you don't get you know,
prime rates.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Now, I want to say, I want to ask you
what you've learned from last season to this season, Like
as far as how you're moving, I know you you've
given us a little bit of it and even like
the whole Wendy Williams situation and that turned into a
whole thing, but it's important, and I will say you've
always kept your composure and kept your cool and explained
everything when asked about it and had good explanations, because
(11:16):
sometimes people's explanations be a little.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like I try to tell the truth, you know, I
truly try to tell the truth, whether you want to
hear it or not. I try to tell the truth,
and the truth sounds crazy to somebody all the time,
So I'm okay with that, Wendy Williams. Of course, Charles
are not father child, and think you know about you
guys while we were together, Shout is very well an
adult man living his life and we have, you know,
(11:39):
our children together, So there wasn't this salacious affair when
he had a baby on me. But it was a
good introduction.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
The real outside of Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, that that never happened. So we are sorry, we
are here and Charles is still being Charles and that's
just where it is.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And then you also talked about you guys taking a break,
and I'm pretty sure like that's a personal thing that
people didn't necessarily but you were very honest about that too.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh yeah, we took a break and that was right
out the Madison Square garden where he got drug out
of the arena, which is still what we're dealing with
right now, eight years later. It's a very litigious situation.
You know, we're trying to get through that. But that
was tough.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Imageful, let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
As in New Yorker, everybody's like that is so disrespectfulspectful
that man is and what he's meant to that particular franchise.
To be treated like that as wild.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And yeah, shout out to Lebron like d Wade, Chris
Paul's the style. All of them were like, nah, we're
not gonna let you destroy this man image. And they
really Michael Jordan, they really stood up for Charles and
the fans because they were trying to paint a narrative
of my husband that's wasn't true. You know, you know
he's an alcoholic and all these things and it wasn't true.
(12:59):
Didn't have dreams anything that day. And shout out to
the people who stood up around for me.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, but don't really want to go back there? Is
that something that is like given the oh.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
No Brooklyn, I mean, can't we go to Brooklynlyn? But
I get so mad at Charles. I'm from Chicago, but
we have the opportunity to go to the I guess
the Knicks played the It was Indiana the Pacers and
Regi Middle was like, oh, come to the game with me,
(13:29):
you know. He was like, I can't do that. Charles
is a neck like through and through hate it. I'm like, no,
you don't have to be anymore. It's okay, let it go.
He's like, no, I can't go to the Pacers arena
if they're playing against the next.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Like you like that?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You sit there and yeah, the papers win.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I hoping until you do right by Charles, the next
will never win a championship?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
How is it for him now? Seeing the dynamic of
people being like can I take.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
A picture with Angela?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He used to be in the person when people come
up and they're like, and now it's like you also
the person.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And now it's funny because people really sometimes don't recognize
me until they see him.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
They look.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'll walk by them all the way up the road
and they'll see him and they be like, oh my god,
where's your wife. She's up there and you missed her.
So he's you know, he's sharing the spotlight with me,
if you will. And now it's a different group of women,
like you know, women are approaching him more. The Bravo
fans are approaching him, so okay, this is different, you know,
And they bring their little kids and the kids are like,
(14:30):
we don't know this old man, Like why do we
gotta say how to him? But the parents are like, no, speak,
this is Charles. They're mortified, like who is this big
black man? Why do we speak to him? So, yeah,
he has a new fan base in the Bravo community.
So it's cool.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's funny, so funny because I can't.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Even imagine him being like, oh lord, Like he loves
the kids and he loves the fans, but him sharing
the spotlight with me, you know, it's funny to see.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Now from your point of view.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Also, Pinky Cole is a new cast member to a
Slutty Vegan, and she's been going through a lot right
now too as we're watching all of this play out.
But I feel like she's been very direct about what's
going on with her. You know, she's not like shrinking
away from things. She I mean, this is who Pinky is.
She's always like, here's what's happening, here's why this is
(15:18):
going down the way that it is. Let me break
this down for you. You know, this is what you
have to do in business. So has she approached you
just because I know, like I said, you're in that
space where you could be a nice asset for somebody
to bounce things off of.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But she know everything already, she knows it. How I
nothing saw that in the trailer. Yes, and for that part,
we're gonna have a good time. Pinky is a wealth
of information, and you'll see through the cast Pinky is
willing to share her information and what she has done
(15:54):
is just admirable. She started a business. Floody Vegan is
a brand. You brand, you know, and so salute shout
out to Pinky for that. Pinky and I do have
discussions about, you know, just when you're in a tight
spot in your business, and that is on the show
because when I was about to lose my properties, I
did think about bankruptcy and I did think about different
(16:15):
ways to try to save them. So I kind of
wanted to be there for Pinky in that regard. But
I don't know how long you know it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We get a little bit of a teaser, Yeah, I try.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, it gets kind of heated.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
You know, how much do you focus on that like,
because I know sometimes living in this space, and then
you may have filmed a long time ago the episode airs,
and now do you watch these episodes as they're airing,
because some people are like, I don't even watch it
until No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I rewatch it again reunion, so we get it ahead
of time. I don't watch it with the fans, you know,
or you know, with the Bravo community. I watch it
again at reunion, and so I try to forget. But
once you see like comments or you're on Twitter, you
kind of you live it again. So I try not
to get in that space, that mind space again because
sometimes the relationships have healed and we moved on. But
(17:07):
on this episode we're fighting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Where they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You mad, let's talk about it, and that has happened
to me. I was still mad and I didn't know it.
Oh yeah I'm still mad. She so, so, yeah, we're dealing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
With that, and it is And sometimes you also don't
know what other people's scenes have been.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Like to write and how the story comes together.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Because seeing the scene with Kelly versus Porsche where they
sat down in the restaurant and had a conversation and
she was and it definitely felt like Porscha orchestrated, like
bringing her there and then saying, well, you sleep with
people's husbands, and but then they hugged. How would you
handle the situation like that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Happening here?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It was shocked. She hug girl, you got hugs for everybody.
So I think, like Kelly said, she felt like, you know,
in that moment, she didn't know how to process at all,
and she took her time.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And now she is war How are you and Portia
after those comments from the previous season.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, that was a rough road, yeah, you know, and
we had conversations. She apologized, She apologized to Charles and
we agreed to move on, and you know, but it's
like I got my.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Own Yeah, I mean, but you're six.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But it also is just that was a wild thing.
That was wild to say, I was like, whoa, that
was wild.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was wild, and you saw my initial reaction. It
wasn't a hug. Well, so yeah, so that's that's just
we've moved on now. But of course my reaction, I'm
not We're not hugging.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
What has the show done for business for you? Because
I have to think that being on there and having
this platform is a perfect way for you to be like,
here's what I do here, you know, but then it
also brings people that are coming to you for the
wrong reasons, like this because they want to meet you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, you know what. It has helped my business in
a way that's it's very subtle right now, because I'm
still very picky and you know how I engage. However,
it has created a plethora of opportunity for different with
different brands Amazon, you know, just I'm like, oh my goodness,
you guys know who I am. You know, that has
been the most fascinating part and I'm definitely you know,
(19:19):
looking forward to the future Holds because the platform is
just it's huge. She's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm trying to think of other people who because it
feels like also certain people popped out with guys like
you know, just in general, like this person's dating this person,
this person's on FaceTime with this person, this you know,
we see Drew now has a oh okay.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
A whole situation.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay that was hinted at before, but now it seems
like a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know what she says, that's her friend, and you know,
she's dealing with a lot so we're gonna keep him
in the frand category.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Portia has oh yeah situation and has switch sides.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, but she says she's always got.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
To it's a known secret.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah that she said. It's a big it's a huge
secret that everyone knows. But Porsche seems to be happy, and.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's what everybody says.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You'll see that when you know, when you watch her
on screens, she's definitely more bobbly, more happy, more active,
and uh, it's gonna be a great season.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Now, A lot of people do think that Kenya is
gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I love Kenya, You're like, I hope so, I love Kenya.
Kenya is just real, Like I just feel like she's
just gonna come back and just kick down doors. Look,
I mean, we gotta be ready for Kenya if she
comes back. You know, Kenya needs to come back.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Ken here's the ball.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We love Kenya, all right?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What elseaid? We're going to see from you this season?
And I know you can't give.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Away too much, but I know we're going to be
focused more on your family too.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, there's a lot that's happened in my family life,
and you guys will get to see all of that
and how I navigate, you know, the recent loss of
my mom, which.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Oh that was Oh my gosh, and my condolence is
I know that is not easy.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
My condolences to you as well.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Sorry, I'm sorry about your loss. It's tough because you
don't I didn't go into this opportunity thinking I went
out my mother right, and so her not being here
is definitely felt and it shows up like times I'm like,
I don't, don't not right now, you know, not just
calm down. It just it has to come out. So
it's been tough.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
But sometimes it also with the way you interact with people.
It makes you think about like what's important and what's
not so important.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh of course, if I'm ever crying, if I'm ever
crying and my kids are okay, I'm only crying about
my mother, right, there's nothing else. I don't care about
anything else. I don't care what else is going on
in the world. It ain't about money nothing. If you
ever see me crying and my kids are good, I'm
only thinking about my mom.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Nothing wrong with that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, Ever, nothing else everything that's important?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, And so are you down for another season after this.
If you don't, let's get to see people wanting to
perhaps if there could be a spinoff.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Uh huh the old last Yes, Look, let's speak that
its existence. Y'all have not seen Charles the way y'all
need to see my husband, like we have a good dynamic.
And I know you guys see him one way. But
what I said before, and I'll say it again, you
see a real reaction in real time on a reality show.
You're getting how he felt in that moment. And that's
(22:35):
just what it is. With ten years married and baby,
you're about to get it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
All but a beautiful blended family.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yes, we are family.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And even his cooking and all that, Like I think
people need to see, you know, some.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Of the cooks every single day, like I come home,
where is the food? That is? He is domesticated. I
know you don't show it, but Charles is a domesticated man.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
He said, you don't really cook like that. Well I tried.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wait a minute, I do, I try, But why would
I try to fight him in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Out the way?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You got this? This is your domain. You can have it. Yeah,
Charles does the cooking and I am okay with it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Have you tried to pitch a show for you guys, No,
not yet.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I feel like we need to get our feet wet here.
I felt like I need to introduce myself to the
housewife's community and just get to know Bravo and with
the fans like you know and so and I have.
You know, this is my first time in front of
a camera. This is new for me.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It's good though, right, and because I feel like when
I see people talking about you, it's pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I receive that I'm truly giving you who I am.
If I don't like something like they tore me up
about Phaedra, Okay, I'm not gonna change my mind because
you don't like that. I think it was Phedra. This
is what I believe and I got ate up. However,
that that's I'm just gonna always give you my truth.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, and listen.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It's good that you guys were able to, you know,
move past it, and for you to take accountability and
be like, I can't be just listening to people off.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The streets and I'm teaching my twelve year old son
how to be accountable. I at least have to say,
you know, I'm sorry, or I apologize when I'm wrong,
and I'm finding that that's a foreign language in the
housewives community, Like do.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
We apologize over here?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Do we say I'm sorry? Do we say I was wrong?
You know?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Maybe give a hug, Yeah, a hug.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know, let's move on, Let's move on.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
How do you think the dynamic in your relationship has
changed from this show?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Has it changed anything?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Because, like you said, Charles was seeing their response from
the previous season and realizing his interactions with you so
that people aren't coming at you have to change.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But you know what, he didn't change that much like
he was living then. What's truly who he was and
who he's given now is truly who he is. I
think now what you see more as He's just like, okay,
wait a minute, she doesn't like the way this may
seem to other people, right, And now I'll be honest.
Now I am saying ouch more often because I am
(25:02):
now a completely different person. I'm living in this world
without my mother, so I say ouch a lot like ouch,
I don't like the what I made me feel. Ouch ouch,
And he's like, okay, okay, it's a new I'm just
not the same person I was, and so now we
And again, if you're you've been in a relationship a
long time, you reinvent yourself, you learn, you become new
(25:23):
people often. Yeah, so this is a new version of
me and he has to become a new version of
himself to deal with.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And that's what communication is all about.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It that is and ouch because I never yeah, I
don't mean that I'm good, but now my ouch whatever
from whoever.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Because sometimes that also could build up in ways that
you don't even realize, and then you can get irritated
about something, but it really has to do with something
else that you never mentioned.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I do that anyway, I'm breakfast. We over here, No,
we gotta talk about this. And he's like, Dad, you
still and I did he do the same thing with me,
So you know, it's just I don't know. I can't
make this any prettier than what it is. It's just
two people living together.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And what about the kids?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
They're a priority to How are they receiving how are
they receiving this attention?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now, my son he's starting to like it. Before last
year he didn't want to film at all, And now
you know, he's starting to like girls. And the girls
are like your mom is on this.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
He like put me to see he's like mom.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And in this next this, you know, you can hear
him kind of scream. He's upstairs playing his PlayStation and
he was just happy to hear his voice. You know.
The people are you know, his friends are aware that
it's him. So he's kind of a popular kid now
in school. So he likes it. And my youngest daughter,
she loves it. She loves it. And you'll still a
(26:43):
lot more of my oldest who you know, who lives here,
and yeah, she you know, she's finding her fudding.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Okay, well, good, Well I'm paying attention. You know, I'm
watch Yeah week and I'm always cheering you on just
because i just love you guys as a couple, and
I'm cheering on the spin off potential I received that
I would love to see that. I think it's a
great positive example. Okay, yeah, I do, just to see
like what you guys have you know, gone through, and
(27:12):
then how honest you both are, the way that you
guys interact with each other.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's yeah, it's funny. It is funny.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And the fact that you're like your own boss and
your own right outside of that that gets lost.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
That gets lost on so many people. So many people
like she's just with him because he has money. I'm like, oh,
I have my own. I don't think he would have
been with anyone.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I can't see him being with you that ain't
got something going on.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
That she's sitting there waiting on him. You'll be waiting
because he's like, we're about to go get it together,
and you know, you go do your thing, I'll do mine.
Uh yeah. So I definitely have my own and I'm
blessed to say that I make my own money, all right, period.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, I love to see it.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, thank you Angela for joining me. I know I'm
gonna see you again, and I'm gonna be watching this season.
I already could tell in my head from this interview
certain things I'm gonna be looking for. So but thank
you for coming.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I appreciate you
Back.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know, we stand in Angela.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
But Angela Oakley is here, and let's not forget you
did your first interview for Real Housewives of Atlanta right
up here.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, the Angela's are squared, We are united, and we're back.
I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Okay, Well, I want to say season, your second season
on the show has started. You're a lot of people's
favorite as far as like the newbies from last year.
So how does that feel after that first season for you?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It feels good. I'm so happy the fans took to
me and supported me and helped me through because it
was tough. First season was tough.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Girl. They was throwing stuff at you everything.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm like, oh, it was so much happening. So the
fans supported me and I needed the support along with
you know, of course, Charles, but we made.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know, Chars is so funny because I understand his
sense of humor, Like I get.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Baby, the world don't the world is slow to Charles. Yeah, yeah, Charles, Charles,
And yeah, you'll see more of Charles.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It feels like he's also learned, Like Dann, I can't
just be playing like that on TV.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Some things he can't say and some things he mean,
you know, I'm not gonnact like some certain things he
does mean. Well, you know, he means what he says.
But uh, he's of course now he's more sensitive to
how it makes me look when you know the world
doesn't understand him. So those are conversations we have at
home for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
All right, So we are two episodes in on this season.
Obviously it comes on every Sunday. Yeah, so let's let's
recap some of your moments from last season. And then
I know, right, but I can't even imagine because for you,
this is not a space you've been in before where
you had to like put all your stuff out there,
and it brought up a lot of old things. And
(01:48):
did you think about that? Like, I wonder if they're
going to bring this up, how am I going to
explain this?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know what? I did think about that. So I
was just like, let me bring it up, you know.
So a lot of things I was bringing up because
I'm like, I rather you hear it from me than hear,
you know, from anywhere else. And so I remember one scene,
Porte was like, does this girl have toretts like you talking?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm like, no, y'all, can have everything, you can have
all of me.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So I thought that was a good strategy, But now.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Like, oh, just and I always wonder how you truly
feel about things, because there were issues with Phaedra, and
it feels like that may carry over some but it
feels like you resolved it. And I'm like, I'm not
one hundred percent sure on what that is like because
Pedra may or may not have had some people come
and interrupt a moment and make it seem like Charles
(02:36):
was cheating on you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But then she said she didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, you know what, I believe what she says. Of now,
I believe what she says. And you know, that was
a rookie mistake taking information from somebody off the street,
like this guy just came up to me, you know, like, girl,
let me tell you about I'm like okay, yeah, yeah,
so I didn't know. I didn't have any guidance. I
didn't know how to vet you know, information that comes
to you. And once you know, I took my time
(03:00):
and you know, went through all evidence. I'm like, okay,
I just got played. Yeah, I have to go through
evidence like I was a detective all the way through.
And it took me a long time to let it go.
I didn't let it go right away. I was like, no,
I'm gonna find out for sure. And finally I'm like, okay,
I got played.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah we gotta Yeah, we got I played.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Also, I think when you know your foundation is strong enough,
you feel confident and comfortable. This season, You're like, look,
I don't care what y'all say, child's cheating with the
candy lady from down the block, whatever, I'm gonna stay
with him right.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, let's let's get a twisted. What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm not trying like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's just I'm not going to try to debunk anything
that comes his way or my way about him, because
I see that that's a strategy used to distract me,
take me down, whatever, And I'm just not playing that
game this year. But you know, I do care about
my husband.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
But I'm saying I understand what you mean when telling
you things. You can't just be.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like take like you just said, No, I never believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, there's I mean, they would have would have been
all out, they would have produced social seats. I never
believed them. I just felt like they had a lot
of audacity approaching me and I'm like, who are you?
Just somebody off the street and you get to walk
up on me, I'm looking around like who is this?
But you know, and all that being said, I just
feel like this year I'm going to show more. You know,
(04:23):
I'm secure in my.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Marriage right and on the show because I think it
takes some adjustment.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It does.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It is hard because you're not doing what you probably
would normally want to do, like you normally want to
really crash out, or you would normally probably never talk
to this person again. So I'm like, Okay, it's a
balance here, and I'm learning how to navigate in this balance,
and that's healing conflicts quick and you know, getting to
the bottom, finding resolution and a group of friends.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Who would you never talk to again if you didn't
have to.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I can't see. Oh, I feel like it's obvious. Oh,
but you know, I love all the ladies, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Even just also seeing everything else that's going on around
the show. I'm sure are some things you're discovering as
you're watching. Now. You and Drew do have a special relationship.
You're both from Chicago. Yeah, we are on the show together.
So just seeing what she's been navigating, because I feel
like a lot of people's personal things. And I was
just talking about Drew the other day because she's been
(05:29):
in the headlines lately. But something that Fred from Media
Takeout pointed out was when you see what somebody makes,
it's also because they have an LLC that gets money
and then they may pay themselves out of that LLC
that's all for tax purposes and business purposes. So we
can see those numbers and be like, that's all she makes,
but that doesn't necessarily know that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know, paints and an accurate picture of what she makes.
And I don't know what she made, you know, but
if she does have an LLC, of course the goal
is to you know, not pay taxes and to write
off everything. Your food, your your driving, meals everything. And
so by the time you do all that, you're probably
left with, you know, not a lot of money, but.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You also are in the financials and taxes.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I am. It's a busy time, right.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It is today my phone that's going crazy. It's April
fifteens and I have to do extensions. So when I
leave here, I got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, all this because people also have to understand that
you legitimately have businesses real estate investments, financial consultancy, running
a nonprofit.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, Charles, we have help with the nonprofit and Charles
Oakley Foundations, and we have help. So I don't do
that day to day, but I do help put on
a van, show up when he don't, you know, when
he does his drives and things like that. So we're
definitely passionate about that, but I don't run the day
to day of that. That's a lot. That is a
lot of work. Nonprofits are hard.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Listen, it is a lot, trust me, I know.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But today it's April fifteen, So make sure you guys
fole your extensions, do what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Pass that it's too late.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh it's late.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, entrance a cruise every day right when it does.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But here's the thing. A lot of people feel like
April fifteenth is doomsday, like, oh my god, I didn't file.
But if you get a refund, there is no deadline.
You have three years to file your tax return. So
those people who get tax refunds today, it's not the
last day or yesterday, you know, April fifteenth is not
the last day.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I do want to say, I don't understand. If I
was getting a refund, I'd be filing asap. Okay, yeah,
but a lot of money that you wait to the
last minute because owing money, I'd be.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Like, I'm gonna wait till exactly April fifteen. You're right,
but some.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
People want to plan vacations, like okay, I'm gonnet my
tax return. Save it for that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You don't save it up. I would have fouled immediately.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If I was getting money.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We do. I love it, Come file early, get it quick.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right, So let's let's recap some more things.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like I was saying, the other thing that happened was
and I saw this back and forth on social media
with Kelly and her restaurant. You guys in the last
episode were at the grand opening of her restaurant. But
unfortunately we can see that that didn't work out and
it's already closed. Yeah, So being that you're in the
financial space.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I feel like the ladies could use your help. You
know what.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's crazy because you know, Kelly's food is good. Shout
out that chicken is good. So shout out to Nana's
chicken and waffles. When she opened where she opened, I
was like, why did you pick this location? And she
was like, Angela, you could have told me so much
because all of my investment properties were in stand in
the location of that restaurant. And I was like, it's
not designed for you to thrive here. I'm sorry, no, no,
(08:32):
shade to the city. I don't have my homes going.
He took my homes. But what I'm saying is the
city was already stacked against her. So she realized that
I had a wealth of information, but she would never ask, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
If I were anybody like I would be like, we
had somebody right here on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean, but then she wasn't interested. I guess,
so she didn't think I had the information. But I'm like, no, Kelly,
you're gonna be fine. You're gonna it's just it's just
not set up for small black businesses. I'm sorry. And
so I think that played a part in her closing
as soon as she did, because you know, she was
shocked that I was aware. I was like, oh, yeah,
they find me for a loan on a house that
(09:12):
the bank took.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm like, how did own this house?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Anymore. They was like, you still got to pay this
fine and I had to pay.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
To pay it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I had to pay it. So how is the real
estate market now? Because it's been a wild time, and
I'm always interested in hearing what people who are investing
in real estate have to say, because we saw on
the first season that you were on some of the
things you were going through with trying to sell a
house that you had.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
To tell my investment properties. I will say now, it
is still very much of a buyer's market. You know,
interest rates are still high, buyers are not you know,
they can have the pick of the litters. Still a
ton of inventory out there, so now's the time to
find a good deal if you want to get one.
I'm seeing a lot of deals in the luxury space,
which brings me some comfort in knowing that, Okay, I
(09:54):
would have never made a profit if I didn't lose
them or not, I would have lost. It's tough out there.
It's tough in this economy as a whole.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah no, because I've done some real estate investments too,
and I'm like, let me chill out.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah please, I'm like, now, it's not the time, right,
It's too much going on war. Oh, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
People are definitely nervous about even wanting to sell their
homes right now too.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, you know what, because it's so many homes on
the market. I feel like town homes are struggling. A
lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Places are, and interest rates are, you know, higher than yeah,
so people are also. But I also think traditionally interest
rates were way higher than that before, right, like yeah,
and even after that, three like three percent was so low.
I felt like that was kind of an anomaly, like because.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That was on precedent. Yeah, that probably will never happen
in our lifetime, but at least let's get to the fours,
the five, right, But we're in six. You know, depending
on your credit you go to seven eight. It's expensive,
especially an investment. Yeah, investment you don't get you know,
prime rates.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Now, I want to say, I want to ask you
what you've learned from last season to this season, Like
as far as how you're moving, I know you you've
given us a little bit of it and even like
the whole Wendy Williams situation and that turned into a
whole thing, but it's important, and I will say you've
always kept your composure and kept your cool and explained
everything when asked about it and had good explanations, because
(11:16):
sometimes people's explanations be a little.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like I try to tell the truth, you know, I
truly try to tell the truth, whether you want to
hear it or not. I try to tell the truth,
and the truth sounds crazy to somebody all the time,
So I'm okay with that, Wendy Williams. Of course, Charles
are not father child, and think you know about you
guys while we were together, Shout is very well an
adult man living his life and we have, you know,
(11:39):
our children together, So there wasn't this salacious affair when
he had a baby on me. But it was a
good introduction.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
The real outside of Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, that that never happened. So we are sorry, we
are here and Charles is still being Charles and that's
just where it is.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And then you also talked about you guys taking a break,
and I'm pretty sure like that's a personal thing that
people didn't necessarily but you were very honest about that too.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh yeah, we took a break and that was right
out the Madison Square garden where he got drug out
of the arena, which is still what we're dealing with
right now, eight years later. It's a very litigious situation.
You know, we're trying to get through that. But that
was tough.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Imageful, let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
As in New Yorker, everybody's like that is so disrespectfulspectful
that man is and what he's meant to that particular franchise.
To be treated like that as wild.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And yeah, shout out to Lebron like d Wade, Chris
Paul's the style. All of them were like, nah, we're
not gonna let you destroy this man image. And they
really Michael Jordan, they really stood up for Charles and
the fans because they were trying to paint a narrative
of my husband that's wasn't true. You know, you know
he's an alcoholic and all these things and it wasn't true.
(12:59):
Didn't have dreams anything that day. And shout out to
the people who stood up around for me.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, but don't really want to go back there? Is
that something that is like given the oh.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
No Brooklyn, I mean, can't we go to Brooklynlyn? But
I get so mad at Charles. I'm from Chicago, but
we have the opportunity to go to the I guess
the Knicks played the It was Indiana the Pacers and
Regi Middle was like, oh, come to the game with me,
(13:29):
you know. He was like, I can't do that. Charles
is a neck like through and through hate it. I'm like, no,
you don't have to be anymore. It's okay, let it go.
He's like, no, I can't go to the Pacers arena
if they're playing against the next.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Like you like that?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You sit there and yeah, the papers win.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I hoping until you do right by Charles, the next
will never win a championship?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
How is it for him now? Seeing the dynamic of
people being like can I take.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
A picture with Angela?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He used to be in the person when people come
up and they're like, and now it's like you also
the person.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And now it's funny because people really sometimes don't recognize
me until they see him.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
They look.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'll walk by them all the way up the road
and they'll see him and they be like, oh my god,
where's your wife. She's up there and you missed her.
So he's you know, he's sharing the spotlight with me,
if you will. And now it's a different group of women,
like you know, women are approaching him more. The Bravo
fans are approaching him, so okay, this is different, you know,
And they bring their little kids and the kids are like,
(14:30):
we don't know this old man, Like why do we
gotta say how to him? But the parents are like, no, speak,
this is Charles. They're mortified, like who is this big
black man? Why do we speak to him? So, yeah,
he has a new fan base in the Bravo community.
So it's cool.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's funny, so funny because I can't.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Even imagine him being like, oh lord, Like he loves
the kids and he loves the fans, but him sharing
the spotlight with me, you know, it's funny to see.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Now from your point of view.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Also, Pinky Cole is a new cast member to a
Slutty Vegan, and she's been going through a lot right
now too as we're watching all of this play out.
But I feel like she's been very direct about what's
going on with her. You know, she's not like shrinking
away from things. She I mean, this is who Pinky is.
She's always like, here's what's happening, here's why this is
(15:18):
going down the way that it is. Let me break
this down for you. You know, this is what you
have to do in business. So has she approached you
just because I know, like I said, you're in that
space where you could be a nice asset for somebody
to bounce things off of.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But she know everything already, she knows it. How I
nothing saw that in the trailer. Yes, and for that part,
we're gonna have a good time. Pinky is a wealth
of information, and you'll see through the cast Pinky is
willing to share her information and what she has done
(15:54):
is just admirable. She started a business. Floody Vegan is
a brand. You brand, you know, and so salute shout
out to Pinky for that. Pinky and I do have
discussions about, you know, just when you're in a tight
spot in your business, and that is on the show
because when I was about to lose my properties, I
did think about bankruptcy and I did think about different
(16:15):
ways to try to save them. So I kind of
wanted to be there for Pinky in that regard. But
I don't know how long you know it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We get a little bit of a teaser, Yeah, I try.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, it gets kind of heated.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
You know, how much do you focus on that like,
because I know sometimes living in this space, and then
you may have filmed a long time ago the episode airs,
and now do you watch these episodes as they're airing,
because some people are like, I don't even watch it
until No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I rewatch it again reunion, so we get it ahead
of time. I don't watch it with the fans, you know,
or you know, with the Bravo community. I watch it
again at reunion, and so I try to forget. But
once you see like comments or you're on Twitter, you
kind of you live it again. So I try not
to get in that space, that mind space again because
sometimes the relationships have healed and we moved on. But
(17:07):
on this episode we're fighting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Where they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You mad, let's talk about it, and that has happened
to me. I was still mad and I didn't know it.
Oh yeah I'm still mad. She so, so, yeah, we're dealing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
With that, and it is And sometimes you also don't
know what other people's scenes have been.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Like to write and how the story comes together.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Because seeing the scene with Kelly versus Porsche where they
sat down in the restaurant and had a conversation and
she was and it definitely felt like Porscha orchestrated, like
bringing her there and then saying, well, you sleep with
people's husbands, and but then they hugged. How would you
handle the situation like that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Happening here?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It was shocked. She hug girl, you got hugs for everybody.
So I think, like Kelly said, she felt like, you know,
in that moment, she didn't know how to process at all,
and she took her time.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And now she is war How are you and Portia
after those comments from the previous season.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, that was a rough road, yeah, you know, and
we had conversations. She apologized, She apologized to Charles and
we agreed to move on, and you know, but it's
like I got my.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Own Yeah, I mean, but you're six.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But it also is just that was a wild thing.
That was wild to say, I was like, whoa, that
was wild.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was wild, and you saw my initial reaction. It
wasn't a hug. Well, so yeah, so that's that's just
we've moved on now. But of course my reaction, I'm
not We're not hugging.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
What has the show done for business for you? Because
I have to think that being on there and having
this platform is a perfect way for you to be like,
here's what I do here, you know, but then it
also brings people that are coming to you for the
wrong reasons, like this because they want to meet you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, you know what. It has helped my business in
a way that's it's very subtle right now, because I'm
still very picky and you know how I engage. However,
it has created a plethora of opportunity for different with
different brands Amazon, you know, just I'm like, oh my goodness,
you guys know who I am. You know, that has
been the most fascinating part and I'm definitely you know,
(19:19):
looking forward to the future Holds because the platform is
just it's huge. She's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm trying to think of other people who because it
feels like also certain people popped out with guys like
you know, just in general, like this person's dating this person,
this person's on FaceTime with this person, this you know,
we see Drew now has a oh okay.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
A whole situation.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay that was hinted at before, but now it seems
like a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know what she says, that's her friend, and you know,
she's dealing with a lot so we're gonna keep him
in the frand category.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Portia has oh yeah situation and has switch sides.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, but she says she's always got.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
To it's a known secret.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah that she said. It's a big it's a huge
secret that everyone knows. But Porsche seems to be happy, and.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's what everybody says.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You'll see that when you know, when you watch her
on screens, she's definitely more bobbly, more happy, more active,
and uh, it's gonna be a great season.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Now, A lot of people do think that Kenya is
gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I love Kenya, You're like, I hope so, I love Kenya.
Kenya is just real, Like I just feel like she's
just gonna come back and just kick down doors. Look,
I mean, we gotta be ready for Kenya if she
comes back. You know, Kenya needs to come back.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Ken here's the ball.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We love Kenya, all right?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What elseaid? We're going to see from you this season?
And I know you can't give.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Away too much, but I know we're going to be
focused more on your family too.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, there's a lot that's happened in my family life,
and you guys will get to see all of that
and how I navigate, you know, the recent loss of
my mom, which.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Oh that was Oh my gosh, and my condolence is
I know that is not easy.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
My condolences to you as well.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Sorry, I'm sorry about your loss. It's tough because you
don't I didn't go into this opportunity thinking I went
out my mother right, and so her not being here
is definitely felt and it shows up like times I'm like,
I don't, don't not right now, you know, not just
calm down. It just it has to come out. So
it's been tough.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
But sometimes it also with the way you interact with people.
It makes you think about like what's important and what's
not so important.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh of course, if I'm ever crying, if I'm ever
crying and my kids are okay, I'm only crying about
my mother, right, there's nothing else. I don't care about
anything else. I don't care what else is going on
in the world. It ain't about money nothing. If you
ever see me crying and my kids are good, I'm
only thinking about my mom.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Nothing wrong with that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, Ever, nothing else everything that's important?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, And so are you down for another season after this.
If you don't, let's get to see people wanting to
perhaps if there could be a spinoff.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Uh huh the old last Yes, Look, let's speak that
its existence. Y'all have not seen Charles the way y'all
need to see my husband, like we have a good dynamic.
And I know you guys see him one way. But
what I said before, and I'll say it again, you
see a real reaction in real time on a reality show.
You're getting how he felt in that moment. And that's
(22:35):
just what it is. With ten years married and baby,
you're about to get it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
All but a beautiful blended family.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yes, we are family.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And even his cooking and all that, Like I think
people need to see, you know, some.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Of the cooks every single day, like I come home,
where is the food? That is? He is domesticated. I
know you don't show it, but Charles is a domesticated man.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
He said, you don't really cook like that. Well I tried.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wait a minute, I do, I try, But why would
I try to fight him in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Out the way?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You got this? This is your domain. You can have it. Yeah,
Charles does the cooking and I am okay with it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Have you tried to pitch a show for you guys, No,
not yet.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I feel like we need to get our feet wet here.
I felt like I need to introduce myself to the
housewife's community and just get to know Bravo and with
the fans like you know and so and I have.
You know, this is my first time in front of
a camera. This is new for me.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It's good though, right, and because I feel like when
I see people talking about you, it's pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I receive that I'm truly giving you who I am.
If I don't like something like they tore me up
about Phaedra, Okay, I'm not gonna change my mind because
you don't like that. I think it was Phedra. This
is what I believe and I got ate up. However,
that that's I'm just gonna always give you my truth.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, and listen.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It's good that you guys were able to, you know,
move past it, and for you to take accountability and
be like, I can't be just listening to people off.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The streets and I'm teaching my twelve year old son
how to be accountable. I at least have to say,
you know, I'm sorry, or I apologize when I'm wrong,
and I'm finding that that's a foreign language in the
housewives community, Like do.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
We apologize over here?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Do we say I'm sorry? Do we say I was wrong?
You know?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Maybe give a hug, Yeah, a hug.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know, let's move on, Let's move on.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
How do you think the dynamic in your relationship has
changed from this show?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Has it changed anything?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Because, like you said, Charles was seeing their response from
the previous season and realizing his interactions with you so
that people aren't coming at you have to change.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But you know what, he didn't change that much like
he was living then. What's truly who he was and
who he's given now is truly who he is. I
think now what you see more as He's just like, okay,
wait a minute, she doesn't like the way this may
seem to other people, right, And now I'll be honest.
Now I am saying ouch more often because I am
(25:02):
now a completely different person. I'm living in this world
without my mother, so I say ouch a lot like ouch,
I don't like the what I made me feel. Ouch ouch,
And he's like, okay, okay, it's a new I'm just
not the same person I was, and so now we
And again, if you're you've been in a relationship a
long time, you reinvent yourself, you learn, you become new
(25:23):
people often. Yeah, so this is a new version of
me and he has to become a new version of
himself to deal with.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And that's what communication is all about.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It that is and ouch because I never yeah, I
don't mean that I'm good, but now my ouch whatever
from whoever.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Because sometimes that also could build up in ways that
you don't even realize, and then you can get irritated
about something, but it really has to do with something
else that you never mentioned.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I do that anyway, I'm breakfast. We over here, No,
we gotta talk about this. And he's like, Dad, you
still and I did he do the same thing with me,
So you know, it's just I don't know. I can't
make this any prettier than what it is. It's just
two people living together.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And what about the kids?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
They're a priority to How are they receiving how are
they receiving this attention?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now, my son he's starting to like it. Before last
year he didn't want to film at all, And now
you know, he's starting to like girls. And the girls
are like your mom is on this.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
He like put me to see he's like mom.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And in this next this, you know, you can hear
him kind of scream. He's upstairs playing his PlayStation and
he was just happy to hear his voice. You know.
The people are you know, his friends are aware that
it's him. So he's kind of a popular kid now
in school. So he likes it. And my youngest daughter,
she loves it. She loves it. And you'll still a
(26:43):
lot more of my oldest who you know, who lives here,
and yeah, she you know, she's finding her fudding.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Okay, well, good, Well I'm paying attention. You know, I'm
watch Yeah week and I'm always cheering you on just
because i just love you guys as a couple, and
I'm cheering on the spin off potential I received that
I would love to see that. I think it's a
great positive example. Okay, yeah, I do, just to see
like what you guys have you know, gone through, and
(27:12):
then how honest you both are, the way that you
guys interact with each other.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's yeah, it's funny. It is funny.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And the fact that you're like your own boss and
your own right outside of that that gets lost.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
That gets lost on so many people. So many people
like she's just with him because he has money. I'm like, oh,
I have my own. I don't think he would have
been with anyone.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I can't see him being with you that ain't
got something going on.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
That she's sitting there waiting on him. You'll be waiting
because he's like, we're about to go get it together,
and you know, you go do your thing, I'll do mine.
Uh yeah. So I definitely have my own and I'm
blessed to say that I make my own money, all right, period.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, I love to see it.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, thank you Angela for joining me. I know I'm
gonna see you again, and I'm gonna be watching this season.
I already could tell in my head from this interview
certain things I'm gonna be looking for. So but thank
you for coming.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I appreciate you
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