Bounty Tank Opens Up: Shooting, Forgiveness, Family & His Comeback! + More

Bounty Tank Opens Up: Shooting, Forgiveness, Family & His Comeback! + More

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up his way up with angela guy? And definitely
where yet Bounty Tink is back. Welcome back to the show.
It's been a lot that happened since last time you
were here.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh yeah, I'm blessed to be First off, let me
give the grace, the glory the God to even be
here sitting with you again. Yes, it's been a lot,
but I'm here blessed man.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
You had and we'll get right into it.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You had an incident where you almost lost your life
while you were working as a bounty hunter, a Belle bondsman.
And it was a situation where you went someplace and
going to apprehend an eighteen year old right who what
had he done? He didn't show up for an appearance, He.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Missed court, but his original charges was just it was domestic.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Violence, okay, yeah, and you went to go find him
in Akron, Ohio, went.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
To Farm Agron. I believe it might have been a setup.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Why do you say that?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Just because I really now just listen to the audio
of them calling in to the police, and I heard
one of them say, we were getting attacked by a
guy in the black ski mask.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So and you did not have on the it's all over.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
To they seen. You can see the footage there's no mask,
so it led me to believe it might have been
more to it.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's interesting that the footage exists, right, and he did
not get charged with anything, but the footage exists, so
you can see there's no black ski mask.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
So okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
To me, it feels like there's something more to pursue
in that situation because literally, you were in the hospital
for four months, six months, six months and the bullets
just narrowly missed. You had on a bulletproof vest, but
you said they shot down, So actually happen.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I was running this way and it hit the side
where there's no plating and uh, through the side of
my chest two centimeters from my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know. So this is something that you feel like
because I can't understand why would the police see this
footage and then decide, okay, it's self defense or they
thought they were being attacked.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's more so the prosecutor. He's the one that decided,
you know, because in Ohio is to standard ground law
and the way they perceived it and took it in
as he was scared for his life. But I am
not in a place where I want to pursue anything.
I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I feel like I'm happy to be alive.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Happy. I'm not mad at the young man, you know,
I hope he turned his life around. I'm just in
a space from now where i'm past it.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Did you feel he was apologetic?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I haven't talked to or any remorse. I don't know
if he's given any statements. I know there was an
eighteen year old and a sixteen year old. Is that
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm not sure the other age of the young person,
but yeah, he was eighteen. I haven't spoke to him,
I have I heard anything.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
No, what is your relationship? Then?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I want to ask with like law enforcement were prosecutors,
because I would think that they would look at you
as an ally for what they do.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I have personal relationships with some of the local PD,
some of the task force I know some of I
have a good relationship with the clerker courts, but I
don't really know any of the prosecutors. I know some
of the judges, but not personally, and honestly, they don't
look at me as one of their own, to be

(03:28):
honest with you, you know, so yeah, besides my personal relationships
with people that I know personally, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
But don't these all kind of work hand in hand,
Like what you do kind of supplements and supports what
they do.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
We do work hand in hand, and you would think
that they would see that, but some of them don't
even really understand what I do, to be honest. So
it's kind of like a situation where I look our
field of looked at like outsiders a little bit. We're
not directly in the court, but we deal with the court.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
So how would you explain it if somebody was like, well,
what exactly is it that you do?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So basically, I'm a baillbon I bail people out of
jail did need help. I am basically a continuation of
in prison of the original charge from jail. That's it.
I'm just a continuation of imprisonment. That's it. So the
court gives us our power and structure through that. That's

(04:36):
pretty much it. We're like parole kind of when you
think about it, you know what I mean. So in
that sense, we guarantee people to get back to the court,
so we play our role. But again we're kind of
looked at as kind of outsider because we're not physically
in there. Employed by the state or employed by the
judge or anyone. We're our home, you know, separate, so

(05:01):
we're not directly working with them a lot of the time.
So we're just dealing really with the clerks.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
And you're a you're a Bellbind's bean and a bounty hunter.
Are you still planning? Because this is to me. I
look at you have the incident previously in Detroit, that
was a dangerous incident right where there was gunfire during
that time, and that was earlier on But you and
I watch your YouTube channel, so I have a chance
to see not just that work, but also the music

(05:26):
that you're doing, which we'll get to in a second.
But then this incident happened. But then you're returning to
what it is that you do.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I love what I do. I'm not comparing myself to
the analogy I'm about to use, but you'll get what
I'm saying. Certain people are called to do certain things.
Look at Martin Luther King. He got death threats, all
type of things to happen to him and his family.
Now if he just would have just accepted that and

(05:55):
just quit, will we be at you know what I'm saying.
So I look at I look at people like him
and his life that it's not easy to do what
they're doing, but they have a special calling. And if
they just quit because there's a bump in the road
or they get threats, or even life altering situations like this,
where are we going to be at? You know? Where

(06:18):
will we be? And God called me to do something.
I have a niche for this. I've been good at this.
I'm great at it. I'm great what I do. I impact
the community. I helped people get sober, get off drugs,
motivating youth. I am looked at by people in so

(06:38):
many ways as motivation and strength. So for me to
quit because there's adversity, just when they don't sit well
with me and I'm still here?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
How were you affective?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Then you would say, how has life changed after being
given or fortunately making it through an incident that could
have potentially killed you, that's kind of a miracle.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
So life has changed for the better. I did go
through some depression. I did go through a identity crisis
because you know, obviously I looked different. I was in
a situation where I lost all my strength. I had

(07:24):
to relearn to walk, talk, I couldn't eat and It
just humbled me, and it put things in perspective in
my life or what's really important, which is family, because
I had no one else to call on this up
God and family at that time. It didn't matter how
big I was, how strong I was, how I looked physically.
It just mattered who was there for me at that time.

(07:46):
So it helped me put things in priority as far
as life, because I would put prioritize work over everything.
So it's affected me in a good way. So I'm
not going to say anything negative about it, because everything
has its purpose. It's realigned me. It's humbled me, and

(08:07):
I wouldn't take it away for anything because now I
got a testimony to tell people through my story, through
my pain, and it's brought me closer to my family.
It's tightened me up. I bring to surface people who
are actually there for me, exposed people who really wasn't

(08:29):
there for me. So I've weeded people out of my
life and I've brain others closer. So it's taught me
just life and now I don't disrespect time. You know,
time is perishable, and a lot of times when you
disrespect time and you don't value it, you move like

(08:50):
you have all the time in the world. And now
I realized that you don't have all the time in
the world to want walking your purpose, to you know,
rekindle relationships. You just don't because it might be that
time you don't have any more time.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
You talk about rekindling relationships, what relationships did you have
to rekindle?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, let me say just having bad. Me and my
mom had like a really rocky relationship, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You come from a single parent household. You did a
song for your mom, yes, as well?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I did, Oh yeah, And you know we just bumped
hands a lot. We're both sagittarius, we're both you know,
strong at it. And we went back and forth for
a long time. But you know, when I went through that,
she was by my side NonStop. You know, she made
sure that I wasn't I was never in the hospital

(09:51):
on them six months by myself. She put everybody on
the schedule. Everybody was on the schedule. I was never alone.
So it brings me and her closer, and I realized
this animosity I have, it's stupid, you know what I mean.
It taught me to give grace and understand her upbringing.

(10:11):
Why are you the way you are, and it just
comes with inner healing and it brings us closer. Man.
I love my mom to death, man, and I don't
think if this wouldn't happen it we would ever been
to where I am now with her. So you know,
I'm thankful.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Some years ago you did a song also called not
the Father, where you addressed your absentee father.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
What are your thoughts about that now?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
After going through that, I I forgive. I forgive him.
I don't have any ill will towards him. I don't
agree with his motion. I don't like the way he moves.
I think he came to the hospital one or two times,
maybe three times, and I haven't talked to him six months. Yeah,

(10:56):
I haven't seen him or talked to him since then.
Matter of fact, actually we might have had a conversation.
I was like text, like yo, what's up. He was like,
I thought you was mad at me. So you know
how I am when people I feel like people don't
want to talk to me, I don't talk and I'm
just like, bro, this ain't about you, Like yeah, So
you know, hey, everybody, I accept them for years and

(11:19):
that's that's why I leave it that right there.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You also did a song called take It Up There.
Oh that has a gospel type of feel. Tell me
about that and kind of what you were going through,
what the song is about, what it means to you.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Take it Up There is just when you having stress, anxiety,
you're dealing with depression and addictions, take all your problems
to God. This song just it just came to me
one day. My friend, my dude JP, send me a
beat and I was like, Oh, I'm like, I'm not
a gospel or Christian rapper, but just just feel good

(11:58):
and just just start pouring into the song how I
felt and my testimony and where I've been through and
what I'm going through, and I just want to inspire others,
you know, to do the same thing. So we got together.
It led me to different people, my brother DJ Ryan Wolf,
and then the Manual, the Prophet. It kind of brings

(12:20):
together just randomly, nothing's but happenstance, but it brain is
together and we were able to create something magical out
of it.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So it feels like you've been really leaning heavy into
music for therapy too for yourself.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Couldn't really do nothing else, you know, I could try
to live weights here and there, but I really couldn't
do nothing else, and I love music, so it was
a great outlet for me. So I'm gonna keep using
it to push the message. Now I'm more focused on
how I can evolve mentally and verbally versus the physical tank.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I saw a news interview that you did, and I
saw your daughter was on there as well, and it
feels like she's happy that you're back to doing what
you feel is what you were called to do, right,
But then at the same time, I'm sure she's also nervous.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
She's super apprehensive. Her and my wife. I mean, they
understand I gotta do what I gotta do. You know,
I still got to provide, But at the same time,
they're still nervous. I mean, I understand, you know, I'm
not fully back into it, and I have been out.
I had to go get a couple of people just
because I had to. But I'm not just out there.

(13:33):
What do you mean you had to Well, I had
a very high bond I did, and just a true story,
I had very high bond. And I told you just
Gouy just turned yourself in. Try to give him a chance.
He's another young dude. I plead it on, please just
go turn yourself in. And people thought because I'm in
and out of the hospital and I'm posting like, oh,
he ain't gonna do nothing. So I literally left the hospital,

(13:57):
messed up everything, got my gun, put it in my pants,
and went on a grab dude. So when I have to,
I will. Before I was doing it more just for
film and purposes, so I would take on extra cases
and do emotional Now I'm kind of I'll do if
I have to, but I'm stepping back more on some management.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Okay, yeah, because the content I think has been great
for you as well. But you know, even aside from
all of this, that's something that people know you from
that as well, just from you being a great content creator,
but having this as a profession that's not something And
I know, Dog the Body Hunter, you we.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Talked about that.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
How you've watched that and you're like, Okay, I'm gonna,
you know, create my own content. But even doing music,
is it weird to be like, Okay, I'm doing music,
but this is what I do for a living. Because
it's not something we see too often.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
It was weird, which why it took me so long
to start doing music because I was worried about the
pushback because I do have a badge, and I were
you know, people, some people in the hoods keep it real,
perceived me as the police. So you see him rapping,
You're like, man, I don't want to hear nothing, you know.
So I was afraid of the pushback, but then it
got to the point where I didn't care. So now, no,

(15:14):
because I make good music, I've got to do a
lot of things with music and travel.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
So now do you feel like you've turned people's perceptions
around about your profession too?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Most definitely because I pushed nonviolence. Even after getting shot,
I still push nonviolence. So when you associate a badge
in the face, now it's not all bad people know.
I give people chances and I try to help them.
So I have kind of created a different way when
people think of individuals that do my job.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
What would you say to that eighteen year old.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Get your life to christ Man. That's what I would
say to him, And I'll tell them I forgive him.
I put it online that I forgive him.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
How long did it take you to forgive him? Was
it instant or was it something that you had to
come to terms with it was.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Somebody had to come to terms with it. Took some
months for me to really to actually really not just
say it, but like really believe it and really forgive them.
It took a very long time. Yeah, it did.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Can you when you think back to how this happened,
did you think when you got shot? Did you say
did you feel like you were gonna die? Did you
in your head say, this is it like what happened.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
When I got shot? First, I was like, did I
get shot? I'm like, oh, it hit the best I
took the best off. I said, Okay. Then my life
flashed in front of me. Immediately I started to think
about what I should have done. I wish I would
have did this. I wish I would have done that.
I started having so many regrets and thinking about I

(16:47):
didn't set this help properly, I didn't set my daughter.
I'll start thinking of all the things that I didn't
do properly to get to this point, because you never
know when it's your time. So I was just literally
just a million thoughts of I should have did this,
I should have did that, I should have got right,
And I was just praying, like I hope this is not.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
It and those prayers worked.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh they pray and and of course my supporters. I
can't forget that because a lot of people were praying
for me and the big man upstairs hurt it.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So how do you feel about the support that you
got online afterwards? Because I remember we saw it up here,
you know, we reported it. We didn't know what was
gonna end up happening. But were you seeing all of that, like,
did you did you feel the No?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
My brother took my phone, so I didn't really see
a lot what was going on on the internet until
really I got out the hospital, so they made sure
I wasn't feeding into nothing online or seeing nothing, so
I didn't really know what was going on. So I
got home, it was like really looking at my DMS
and looking at stuff. So I had no.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Clue, right because I'm just wondering if you could feel
the you know, feel the love that people had, because
I did see a lot of people like.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, I can't believe this happened, you know, is he
gonna be all? Okay? Prayers up? We definitely did a
prayers up for you.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I appreciate that I felt the love. In other ways.
I got a lot of cards a lot of cars
from people and not thank them for that. But first
the Internet. I was not tapped in during that time
on Internet.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
What has the recovery process been like for you? I know,
I believe you said you have one more surgery. Okay,
so tell me about the whole recovery process.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's been a battle. I'm still recovering, but now I
finally put on some weight. I was looking like a
twig before at one sixty. Yeah, now I got some
guns and now I'm back. So just lifting weight, getting
being able to take food, now being able to work
out here weights again. So I'm doing fantastic, just building

(18:42):
myself up strong enough for this next surgery. It could
be up to a ten hour surgery just with a
couple of complications I have. Then I'll be able to
get back to the best normal me that I can
possibly be. So yeah, it's been it's been a journey.
It's been a lot of hard work, a lot of
early mornings, fighting through the pain, fighting through you know,

(19:02):
being tired, fatigue, and just fighting through not being where
I was. It's humbling to pick up a weight that
you used to just throw around. So just fighting through that.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
But it's nice. It feels like you're getting it back.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Oh, you feel like I'm getting it back.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
But even mentally, I'm wondering because this has that's a
traumatic situation that happened to you. Have you spoken to
anybody to kind of guide you through that, any type
of therapy, anybody who's an expert in that, because I'm
wondering when you are going back out, Like you said,
you left straight from the hospital to go get somebody right,

(19:39):
you had a high bond, But I'm just wondering, what
is that like now, because it has to be things
that kind of like flash through your head because of
what you've been through.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Oh. No, I didn't get any therapy. My therapy was God.
Just to be honest with you, I didn't get any
type of therapist or anything like that. I just tapped
in with God, started getting back into church, getting back
of my word. And I've been good. You know. I
did what I did? Was I did? I did? I
did a test. I test myself. I went out on

(20:09):
the hunt. I was doing a documentary and I said,
if I am one step behind, or I flinch or
just it's something off, when I'm scared, I'm done. I'm
about the business and I went out and it was
just like it was yesterday. Nothing changed. So I was like,
all right, I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
What kind of conversations did you have with your daughter,
because you said she was apprehensive about this.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I just told her, like, I'm gonna be taking a
step back, so I don't need to be the one
to kick in the door. You know, I'm gonna train
some people up. You keep the door, you know. So
it's more so just understanding I don't have nothing else
to prove. I've been doing this for a very long time.
I can start training people up. I can still be there,

(20:55):
but I'm just I'm stepping back more into a like
a supervisor type role. And they gave them some peace.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Your wife too when you said they, because I'm like that.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, they gave him some peace. Now my mom, no,
I don't give her no piece. She don't care. She
want me to get about it.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
There she does. What about your wife?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
She good? But they would all prefer me to do
something else. I'm s so, but again, I'm not on
the streets like that unless I absolutely have to be.
So I've been home for the most part.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
How do you deal with women?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Differently when you have to go in because I've seen
some of those videos and.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Some of those women can be a little feisty.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'm sarcastic. I talked to him real low and they
yell and I'm like, what's wrong? Who did? What do
he do to you? I'm sarcastic, not crack jokes, but well, women,
they know you're not gonna do but so much because
you're a male, so they typically they go off. So
I just let him go off.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, that's enough, let's go go off, do your thing.
Have you ever watched that show Sneaky Pete Na?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's a series.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I'm just wondering if you watch it because I ended
up like I think it had. It had like maybe
four seasons. But he gets out of jail and he
takes somebody else's identity, but he goes to work for
the guy's family and they're Bill bondsmen, so they have
a whole Bill Bondsman business. But I actually feel like
I know more about it also from watching.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, even though it's a series, what is that on?
You know what Sneaky Peter is on? It might be
on Netflix. I want to say to check that out.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, I just thought about when I was watching it
because I caught it. It came out a while ago,
but I started watching it and I thought about you
because I was like, oh, you're the only.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Person in real life. I know it's on Prime. Okay,
I'm gonna check that out. Yeah, there you go, so
you can.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
What are some other plans that you have, because, like
you said, some of the people close closest to you
are wanting you to get out of it. But I
know and like you said, you're training other people. You're
not in the field as much. Where do you see
yourself taking this.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm gonna continue. I'm never gonna get out the business.
I'm going to expand my business. I'm taking this to
the Detroit metro area and take over there, and I'm
gonna just keep training people up. Like I said, I'm
gonna just take a step back more into a manager position,
and when I got a lace up, I will you
know what I mean. But just taking a step back,

(23:21):
I'm going to start transitioning, pivoting into some more public speaking,
just trying to help people through my testimony. Yeah, and
continue doing.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
My music and your content. Yeah, because that hasn't stopped.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Oh no, let's keep going.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
How was it the first time? You were like, okay,
time to get back, you know, to it?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And it was weird. I was filled with anxiety, but
I was also filled with happiness just to be able
to throw it back on. So it was a ball
of emotion. I felled all emotions at one time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And so as far as the music, what's happening with.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
That right now? I am working. Well, the album's done.
Album drops April tenth. Okay, I have a new single
that's coming out on the twenty seven, which is this Friday,
called No Hook Park one. So the album is called
BARS and it stands for Blessings After Real Scars and
it's my testimony. It's a powerful album. If you're one

(24:24):
of those people that like albums to tell a story
and have some substance and meaning to it, this is
for you versus this. This is a track, This is tracking.
It does have a flow. This is more of a
complete story. Addictions I dealt with, trauma I've dealt with
is real. It's on Filter. It's a fantastic album and

(24:46):
it's gonna be with a documentary as well.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Oh okay, well I'm looking forward to seeing all of that,
and I'm just happy that you're here, you know, with us,
and that you're still doing what it is that you love.
But we are going to continue to pray, you know.
I know you have one more surgery at the end
of the year, and then after that you feel like after.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
That, God want it. I'm good. Yeah, I'm back to
the best normal mea can be.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Listen, I think that along with this documentary, you know,
it wouldn't be a bad idea to see what a
therapist has to say. I would be I would be
interested to see what a professional would have to say
and maybe some things you could learn about yourself. I'm
all for going to church and all of that, but
I just do think that there could be some things
you could unlock and document as well.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Just an idea.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
We'll try it out. We'll try it. I do a
lot of soul surge and it might be.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Great not just for you, but also for your wife
or your mom, for your daughter, like as a family.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I try it out.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
We'll see, you know, listen.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
We only live once, right, and we got to make
the most out of it, and like you said, continue blessings.
But it affected everybody around you too, in ways that
maybe they don't even understand.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's one hundred percent tro too. Yeah, you're right. We
do counseling, not per se a therapist, but we do
a lot of deep digging. We have family devotion time
where we talk about things is bothering us, so we
get to it, just in a different matter. You know,
if there's a need for some type of therapist, I don't.
There's nothing against it. You know, I've had therapy in

(26:21):
the past for other things. But as far as where
I'm at right now, I'm good. I'm good mentally, you know,
I'm good spiritually. Yeah, I feel good.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Because if it feels strange to be vulnerable in the
position that you're in, I would.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Think for me.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
No, I'm a very transparent person. I don't care. I'll
tell you what it is. If I'm feeling sad, I cried,
it doesn't bother me. So I've always been a very
unfiltered straight for a person in the first place, so
I don't have any problem unpacking.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Okay, I'm packing that therapist word.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, thank you so much for coming through. Like I said,
it's good to see you. We're watching and keeping check
of everything you got going on.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Thank you, thank you. Oh yeah, if you in Cleveland,
I'm having an album release party on April tenth. Get
your tickets is on event Bright. You will be the
first ones to see the documentary. They will go fast
or gravel.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
All right, Thank you so much. April tenth,