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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up is way up with Angela Yee And you
know July is Fiveraards Awareness Month, which we are now
renaming with my partner and the Detax Now coach Jesse.
Coach Jesse is back in the building and we are
renaming this right.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's right, okay, Fibroids Freedom Month.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Fibrords Freedom Month.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, you know how many people want to.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Be free from those fibrards stations we've been having. Now
most women do already know fibraids exist, and I want
to say that is a huge change because I remember
even when I first started in radio, fibraids was not
a conversation that people were having so frequently.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But now women need.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
More education, they need empowerment, practical action because you don't
have to just know that it exists.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You have to help women reclaim.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Their health and their quality of life, which is something
that Coach Jesse has been doing and that's what today's
conversation is all about.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, so joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
My partner, Coach Jesse Thompson, and welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Love you, love you too.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You're a fibrard survivor, yes, also a health activist, founder
of Detox Now, and you've also dedicated years to educating
women about reprotective health, helping them advocate for themselves. And
we have another incredible guest who's a friend of yours today, Yeah,
who is an internationally respected bow Down Technology executive, global
(01:24):
speaker and responsible keyword responsible right, responsible AI leader at
Amazon Web Services. So you are known around the world
for helping organizations build artificial intelligence responsibly, and you spent
your career leading at the highest levels of technology. But
behind all of that, the titles, the conferences, I mean
we're talking about you flying out internationally this weekend, behind
(01:48):
these executive meetings, you are also privately battling advanced fibrarid
disease and you are sharing your journey with us. We're
so fortunate to have you today, So welcome Dia Tway.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yes, and you know, for me, the most people they
know this title, right, But I want people to get
a sense of who you are. So if you could
just kind of share what drives you with your passion
and you know, what does that look like every day
for you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Sure, So, once again, thank you so much for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, Dia, I guess I'm a girl from the South Bronx. Right, Hey,
born and raised in the Bosom.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm born and raised in Harlem, And you know, I
took an I guess not traditional path because we were
talking about this earlier, but my family were teachers, and
I got a computer in the third grade and decided
I was going to be a computer engineer. And I've
been working in technology all in my career, so three
(02:49):
decades in emerging tech, and I've watched technology come into businesses,
help businesses figure out the ways in which they were
going to use that to make money, and reimagine the
way in which they worked right from the Internet all
the way to now with artificial intelligence. But at the
core of it, you know, my core premise, especially right
(03:13):
now with what AI is doing, is to really think
about how do we leverage the technology in ways that
doesn't cause us to lose our agency and then we
can still flourish as humans. And I think that was
also part of the challenge with me as we talk
about my experience. Am I really flourishing through this experience
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that I'm having And what costs did it require of
me given all that I was investing in the work.
But that's a little bit of the work, and then
you know, outside of that, it's I'm a mom. You know,
I spent a lot of time two boys.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, a mom.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I spent a lot of time investing in our children,
but also the next generation. And you know, I'm committed
to creating space for people that typically aren't in the room,
in particular around technology, but in other avenues when I'm
mentoring or working with young people. So that's been a
part of the work in the mission. It's really what
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I'm passionate about, making spaces better than when I came
in and making sure that as we evolve and leverage
technology in the way that we are, that it's not
doing harm.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What was it like when you came in, because you
said thirty years and I have, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Oh well, it's I mean, it's entirely different than I was,
of course, but some things are the same unfortunately, like
not having a lot of women in the room or
not having.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
People of color.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Back then, it was interesting because you know, I was
saying that teachers, being a nurse were acceptable roles, and
so the idea that I wanted to do technology is
a little strength, especially since I didn't have pictures of
that around me, and so for a long time, I
also didn't have mentors or individuals that I saw that
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looked like myself in those rooms. And that's why I'm
committed to doing the work that I do now, because
I want to be what I did, not die for other.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
People, right, not the only one room. And you're also
a caregiver. Right, let's talk about how you know this
is the thing. So she's a boss, but then she's
saving the world, like you know, her family, one member
at a time, and that's a huge part, you know,
being caregivers for people in your family. And they always
say you got to put your oxygen mask.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yes, actually I'm guilty for not doing that right, absolutely,
And that was part of our conversations at the early
stages that I actually had fibroids for a while and
knew about it, but didn't do anything really to address it.
And I was much more concerned about taking care of
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my family.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And my father.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Had a stroke, so I was, you know, nursing him
back to life. Those were the things in between the
travel I'm coming back and immediately running back to know
the work that I had to do for him, so
I didn't focus on it and in part, I didn't
focus on my health as it relates to that was
because I wasn't in pain.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
How did you know pain?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Right? So what did it look like? That's what I
was going to say.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, so I found out that I had five boys
initially because of routine sort of testing.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I do I do that part? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I make sure I go.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And following COVID, you know, we had that small period
where people weren't going to the doctors. Finally went back
and they said I had five boards and I was
like okay and accepting it because what seventy five eighty
five percent.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Woman exactly had by boyds. So I was like, okay,
women overall, eighty percent of women overall, and the one
comes to black women is up to ninety percent. So right,
you were like, I got were they interrupting your life
at that time?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Not initially at that time, not initially, so I didn't
have pain. I didn't notice anything obvious. So I kept
on just with it, and no one really said to
me that I had to do anything at that point, right,
just you know you have them right, But but over
you know, those few years, that situation changed and so
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how did I notice?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It was really the.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Frequent periods because I had gotten to the point of
getting my cycle every eighteen days and what it has
so that is good and it running six to seven days.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I have period sixty seven days.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
When I had it, It's like half your a lot
of month, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And and you know, and that was that X extreme.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So about twenty twenty four, right towards that's when I
started to see that emerge.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
By twenty twenty, so COVID, you got diagnosed post COVID,
so that's around twenty twenty, well, about twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty two post COVID. Okay, so after that at
that time, this nothing's really bothering you. But life is
still stressful. Life is still caring for other people, the
heavy travel, so your body's always in this constant inflammatory
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state in terms of pressure. And then you have also
an autoimmune.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I have an autoimmune disease, so I have my Stenia
gravis and that, as you know, autoimmune diseases sort of
create additional inflammation in your body, in your system.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So that was at present with fibroids. So think about
the impact that that also had on fibroids.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So with surgery something that was an option because you
did have a having an autoimmune disease, it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Was an option.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And actually we had gotten to the point where they wanted,
or my intern is recommended that I go to the
OPGAG and consider surgery. And that's really at the point
where I was led to look at something else, right,
And you know, a large part of me not wanting
(09:02):
to do the surgery was because I knew that with
my autoimmune condition, it meant that my recovery time could
potentially be double what anyone else would have.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And the risks also the elevated risks around respiratory UH
interactions with anesthesia. There were other many I.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Didn't focus on those as much. There were two primary things.
One was recovery time. We're talking about me being a caregiver,
a mom, doing the things at the church all the time, right,
so I couldn't afford to be down, or at least
in my mind, I could be afford to be down
that long. And then the other thing was surgery doesn't
really fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
There were actually you're breaching our message right there. Girls.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well I've learned, but in all honesty, the surgery wasn't
going to address the fatigue. It was than going to
do us what had become now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
The environment that had created it.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Right, what had become now anemia? My iron was low?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
But why we actually didn't talk about the heavy bleeding.
You talked about the period coming. But what was that like?
Because I remember your number being crazy, you know, saying
how you were changing every.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Oh about every ninety minutes, right, So.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was that's the worst too, because you know you
can't even go to sleep if you have to keep
on changing because you have to get up.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well, okay, so tell us your plan because I know
you had. How did you handle it? And it didn't
always work? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
So but I would have an overnight pad, right, so
those were extra, and then you have those.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I have like a diaper, super tampon.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I would put on period pennies, so the ones that
have like the extra you know with carbon or whatever
that's in there. They're supposed to also help rubs orb.
I would put on shorts, right, So if I was
going to bed, I put on shorts.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And this is to go to damas you have.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
To go to bed, No, trust me, I didn't listen.
But if I was out publicly. I was navigating my
time and work around trying to make sure that I
was going to be able to get to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, because it's the worst.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
When you know you're going to have to go and
change it and I don't want to bleed through my clothes.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And I've I've been embarrassed that way, right, So every
every suitcase.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I have.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
In my car, you know, components or whatever, extra things
to be able to accommodate what I knew was going
to Invita be happening. Because at first I used to
get super embarrassed. I mean, I've been at work in
what's an get.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
The story something that happened? Tell us a story of
something that happened. Because you're an executive, this is a
professional who is like at the highest levels of the
echelon of the organization and the work. How are you
navigating it? Because they're women who are just in everyday life.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The navigation was entirely what I was saying, just making
sure that I had extra things with me at all times.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So I'm saying, and it happened, and it still happen.
It's happened to me too, so.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So you know, I'm I'm in an office. We had
a meeting, and the meeting went longer than I was
planning for it, right, And so I essentially waited for
everyone to leave, right.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I sat there at.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
This point, and I could have left earlier when other
people were leaving, but I had to wait for everybody
else to leave because by now I am pretty sure, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I feel that it's happening, and yeah, it's too late,
but the embarrassing it's too late, the embarrassing to see,
we're a nice these chairs, aren't they clothes?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Cloth?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So yeah, so being in a cloth chair is another
part of the problem, right, because right after I fixed myself,
I then had to go and clean the chair in
the office.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And you're like, please don't let anybody see this.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's like having a happy change of clothes.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Or I mean, and there are certain times where you
wear certain kinds of clothing because you figure, like I
could always have a jacket the cover. I've had to
have times where I've my jacket off and tied it
around my waist, you know, And some of that can
be stylish at times. But but but in the office, no,
and hoping that no one else comes into there before
I could go clean it out. Was cool, And I've
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had that. I've had that happen one too many times
that I cared to admit. And you, you know, you
and I were talking about this. I rarely talk about
this part of it because even my husband knew that
I was dealing with some things, but not to the extent.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So I sort of what's crazy is even after we
had our first coaching session, she didn't like she said, yeah,
I have farbers. It's time for me to deal with them, okay,
because all right, you're ready to take action. She never
said she was going through all this. I was like,
what are your cycles? We never like somehow it never
came up.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And then like sometimes it feels so normalized too. It's
what you do because you know, I've listened. When I
went and found out about my fibruary is they also
say my uterus was enlarged too. And that's part of why,
because she was asking me, like, well, do you bleed
like really? Because I bleed really heavy for a day
like or two, and then once I get past that,
it's much better. But I know for that like a
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couple of days, it's a hassle and it just feels
regular though, because you do it every month.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And it's not. It's not normal just because it's common.
It's not normal actually, And that was one of the things.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
That you you were saying to me at the very beginning,
is that it's common, not normal, and that I didn't
have to just live with that. And I did because
I knew the numbers, right, And it's interesting because I
also know Jesse's story. So I had been sharing the
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detox now with other people, but you all need to
do this, but I had not. And again I didn't
and I didn't think about it until the doctor said
to me I needed consider surgery.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And I was like, I'm not doing so until it
became something that you couldn't manage anymore, where like okay,
now something else has to be done.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That I guess, Yeah, that really was the point. And
surgery is a major deal. And so I know you've
done research on your own to understand other options. You know,
is surgery going to fix this or is it just
a band aid on something temporarily well?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And it is.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I mean, it's a band aid unless we address the
other conditions and the body absolutely that were causing that, right,
So and.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You're always severely anemic and vitamin D deficient.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, interestingly enough, and in preparation for the conversation, I
went back right to look at my information. I wasn't
always anemic. I became an emic, and here was the
other thing at a timeline, so it probably was around
so from twenty twenty two to probably twenty twenty four
is when I started seeing the much heavy your cycles.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
They were lasting.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
You became a seven days. That's when I started to
become anemic. And I went back and saw and looked
at what work. Because of the immune disease, I have
regular like full panels every every six months, and and
so I actually could go back and see that I
wasn't always anemic. I became anemic because of the excessive bleeding.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Absolutely my iron levels somebody wasn't making couldn't keep up.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
My iron stores were low, and they also wasn't working
efficiently saturation, right, So I saw all of those numbers affected.
But even and I guess I wasn't looking at that
right because I could see, you know, QUEST does a
great job, it's red here, but but I really I
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didn't until they said surgery, and then I was like
I'm not doing that, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Was and me finally do something, and you know, and
I understand that too because a lot of times as
women were like, of course, i'm a name, and we
think those things like you said, they're they're not normal,
but they are common and I'm managing it well.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And the other thing was that they were my unius
had increased in size, so they were growing and they
did make me aware of that as well. And and
the surgery was the moment, right, but I was you
remember when I texted her early one Sunday morning because
I was praying about it and I'm like, okay, so
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now was that was that it was time for this
to be real for me? And I was like, I
just found out right, and I said, and I'm not
having surgery, so like.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And I know, coach Jesse texts you right back, she did.
Let's get on the calendar.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And the funny thing is that I told Mark that
I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So we know each other from church. From church, my
husband was, you know, Bible teacher and she was in
his classes, and you know, but they knew each other
closer first, so so so he would say, hey, deals
reach out to you. I was like, do you reaching
out to me?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
So I texted him and he was like, well, she's
out of town. So she's like, she's not and I
messaged him back. I was like, she got right back.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know, he was like, oh, she's not gonna playing.
But but that was the moment. So so for me
here it is right. It's like, how many steps along
the way are our sisters suffering? Right? Because now there's awareness,
more awareness, like you talked about that, yeah, you know
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fireb words are present, and that their conversations are happening.
You've had you know, you've had Venus Williams tell her story.
Lapita told her story how last year and then now
she you know, firebirds came back. She has fifty fibroids
and you know they're the conversation is common like, oh
they're they're you know, vomiting like Serena. Serena Venus talked
about how she was vomiting on the floor waiting to
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do one of the matches. She was in so much
pain and she was terribly anemic. Like the conversations around.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It happened time, and I think that's the other thing
that helped to normalize it for me and not to
push me to do it because I was like everybody well,
and it was.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Extreme and in my condition every girl, but just a
routine she had, she was able to manage it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And you're right because sometimes at these stories of being
told more, we're hearing the extreme cases.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
And they're talking about a lot of And I have
friends that were in pain. My sister wasn't, my mom
was in pain.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So it was that was your trigger. You were like, bleeding,
I can handle. But so for me, this is where
it's like, Okay, this is why the freedom part is
the take action part. You know, it's because you know
I have I'm so happy everybody's talking about it, but
I want people actually educated and empowered with solutions because
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early on, when you're body, these are warning signs. Your
body was saying, hey hey I can them, Hey something's wrong.
Hey no, no, no, you know, medically, you're not supposed
to bleed more than three to five tablespoons medically, not,
according to coach Jesse. According to Nationalistitute of Health, medically, scientifically,
that's all it takes to shed that lining. Medically, it's
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supposed to be no more than five days the period
medically it's no more and and almost twice a month.
Sometimes it's supposed to be once a month, like every
twenty eight so days. So think about that. The body
is saying, you know, I say that if we don't
listen to the whispers, we will have to reckon with
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the screams, right because the bodies say, hey, hey, it's tapping. Okay,
hey baby girl, Hey you're chewing ice. Something's wrong. It's
chewing ice that's not in the area.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
People were going my husband and a couple of my friends,
and I didn't even realize I started chewing ice like that.
He was like, Laura, are you going to bed with
that ice? Are you figure something out?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Because I would come in the bedroom with a what
a cup?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
You know, I have my water by the side of
the bed, but it was phill of ice and I
was chomping it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So the surgery was what woke The idea that you
might have to have surgery that was recommended to you
was what woke you up where you said, okay, now
it's time for me to take control. What did that
look like after you decided I want to explore some
other options.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
It was the call to Jesse. I didn't even look
at other options. Okay, because it was finally I already
had known her story. I was already recommending the detox
now to other people. It was time for me to
take your own message.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So what was the plan?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
So we had a chat. Uh, she got right back
to me and we started off with it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Was what it was now, all a bounce or five
words kit.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
But so and and the other thing was interesting, you
know you start off with the with the water fast, right.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So she started to do a reset first. But we
were very gentle with her. We were like and and
so Jesse.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So Jesse was just like, okay, like, let's figure out
when we're going to start this, because you're traveling and
you should really do this at home. And I was
traveling every week all the time. So we talked in February.
I hadn't even started. It was April, right, so May
I finally was like, look, I'm just going to do it.
I'll have to do it traveling. Yeah, right, I'm going
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to start, and so I started. I started.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Mayfeth was that when you were going to California. I
was exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
May went out to San Diego, was going to speaking
at a conference and I just I just started. So
I went. I didn't do the full seven days because
we modify and Mother's Day was the next Sunday. The
next Sunday, and you know, my husband and kids were
taking me out or whatever. So I did, but I
did five days. I lost twelve pounds. I was checking
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in with her and saying, look like this is how
was going.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I remember she was doing and she was like, I'm
doing good. I'm like not struggling.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
And I remember towards the end, I started to get
like the itching and stuff my body detoxing or whatever.
And after that then I started taking on the supplements.
And so we started off with a four month plan. Yeah,
and I think the four month plan was somewhat again gentle,
and it's just.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
She didn't do any crazy nutrition changes, like I knew.
I was like, she needs it to be as sustainably
consist something she can be consistent with every day, right,
like easy to put in her routine. Right. So it
was like you're taking it once a day. She was
taking the balance or the eliminator of the detox or
in the D three plusation once a day. That's it.
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That was literally and.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Now with the detax now it's so much simpler. I've
heard her plans.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I came in at the rate you did.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Honestly, that is.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Part of the challenge, right, is that we are all
busy running around doing things.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
We want to make this something.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That you can do.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You can handle it, you know, to feel like, oh
I forgot which one did I take?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Which day I got to carry on?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
How many times day do I?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think I think that it's it's structured in a
way to make it fairly straightforward, and I think the
biggest thing is about consistency, and since I try to
be consistent in other areas of my life and disciplined,
I won't say that it wasn't necessarily it wasn't easy initially.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Because it was something you wasn't doing before exactly into
your life. But it really wasn't difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I mean, I get up in the morning, I take vitamins,
I do that, right, I was already doing that and
the eating part for me, I think the thing that
was the challenge was to embrace the idea of working
on how I do stress, because you to allow all
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of the stress to build up and there I feel
like every time I turn around there's another podcast that's
talking about how body holds on to stress that right,
and that stress is helping to create additional, additional fodder
to the cycle. Our system that isn't functioning. And I
have so much more to work through because I have
an autoimmune disease that's fighting.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Against your immune system.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
My immune system fighting against the way that my body's
supposed to actually process and handle iron right, it flares
up with stress. Supposedly I don't actually deal with that
most of the time. But but I'm taking you know, suppressence, right,
So all of that is working against what would you
know be easier, you know for some individuals. So I
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really had to think about I eat fairly clean. I'm
a pescatarian. So my husband was just like, are you
gonna do something You're not gonna eat again, right, He's
always like.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You don't eat no.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But but but so the biggest thing was, Okay, how
do we look for other ways to reduce the stress.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
For the biggest thing when I saw I was like,
you know, know, when we look at root because the
focus is tackling the root drivers. So we knew we
needed to, you know, deal with her vitamin D deficiency
and balance her hormones detox, you know, the excess estrogen
that was causing the hormonone balance. All that. We knew
that with the protocol, But then I also knew she
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was someone who was conscious about toxins in her body.
You know, she was already using the Yuka scanner. You know,
she was like, yeah, I'm using it already to make
sure my products are clean. And you know, all that
got all the clean paths got read of plastic and
all that glass. But the key thing I knew, I said,
but there's no margin in your life for recovery and rest.
So your nervous system regulation is where we had to
(26:39):
focus the stress distressing because I was like, there's no
time for your body to recover, right, Like I said, even,
how are your meetings? Remember that conversation. I was like,
do you schedule your meetings back to back? They were?
I was like, uh uh, you are the boss, build
in at least thirty forty five minutes in between you
build it?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
And you said that right, Because I was allowing myself
to be subject to that, Yeah, I was like, you boss,
and there are and there are you know, there are
there are some things that I can't just move or whatever.
But but there really was a lot more flexible, absolutely,
and it was just having that.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Conversation and and accountability. Yeah, because she's like, you know,
I can do that. I was like, yes, you can.
I put some blocks on my calendar.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Was like, that's your time, and and and it's just
started to work. And there are some days where it's great,
it doesn't happen, but.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I did. I did.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And I have this wonderful thing now that I have
like one of those pop up saunas, so I get
in the sauna, a pop up sauna, Okay, we love that.
I want I'm gonna, you know, outfit the house at
some point with the I think it is really important
to be able to take in it a couple usually.
(27:57):
I thought, when I'm home, probably five days out of
the week, I have.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
A steam shower at home, and that steam shower is
every like when I travel, I'm like, I missed my
steam shower.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I haven't because it's not like they.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Have that anywore.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But that's one thing I know that like helps me
if I'm starting to feel sick.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It helps with your aches, your pain.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like, so it was something I was like, let's invest
in the steam shower because it is going to be
something really beneficial. I didn't have a space for a sauna, but.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Also pop up those big garden tubs that nobody gets
in anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So I get on the tub every day. What I
love is that we just had to reimagine how to
build recovery into her life, right, even like travel, like make.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
It convenient for you, like don't come back.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Home right after you finished speaking, like don't go to
all the sessions. Remember, I was like, why are you
going to all the sessions? You're so responsible? Like right,
I was like, you don't have to go to all
the sessions, no sentence. I will tell you speak and
then go to your room.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
The very first time I did this, We're in California,
San Francisco, San Diego, San Diego, beautiful weather, the hotel
balcony faces the water, and I text her picture I'm
sitting on the I was like, okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Missing I'm missing sessions right now, I'm doing it. So yeah, no, listen.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I had to go to an event in West Pond
Beach and instead of taking a flight at ten am
in the morning the next morning when it was time
to go, I took an evening flight and went to
the pool, sat out there, relaxed for the day, and
then went home in the evening.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I'm not as good about that sometimes because I have
folks at home there caring for so I usually I'm
running back to make sure I check out my dad
and do some of those things. But I've certainly introduced
a number of ways.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, I'm incredibly and I want to just take a
moment to just say we're not anti surgery in any way,
shape or form, right, because there are women who they
every woman's every woman's journey is different, right, and actually
require surgery right. Some need it, some choose it, and
it's their right to choose it, right. Some are some
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aren't candidates for surgery right away. In your case, it
wasn't something that you personally were like, there's a lot
of risk that I don't want to I want to
don't want to manage around that. That's a lot more
for me to have to to manage around, right, And
it was just like, if I want to do something
that I want to tackle the route, I also want
to give myself more support on the long term.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I think something that doesn't happen enough is I
talk to my internas I talked to the gynecologists, and
I like them, Aboth, I actually love my internis right.
But there wasn't a conversation about something else.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I never it was life.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
It was really it was like, you should consider options
and surgery. We should be on the table right right
And the other options that were discussed with me were
all surgical when I went to the gynecologist. So when
I said this was what I was going to do,
it was about I think, you know, taking some agency
(31:15):
and exploring an option that I believe that we should,
as you say, have the freedom to be able to
sort of make that decision. My condition wasn't severe enough
that surgery was a monst and I was in some ways,
I'd admit that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I wanted to try.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
This approach, and when the gynecologists saw some results, she
was on board.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I love that, you know, and I think the important
conversation with what you both have said is also even
if someone did choose the surgery, or if it was
something that was a necessity, then you also have to
think about what does that look like after and how
do I, you know, manage this surgery? Doesn't Yeah, because
I didn't really address the environment that helps you so
(32:06):
and go back to the same exact thing.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
The way I explained is like think about a tree, right,
you cut off a branch and the tree is still
rooted in the soil. It's still rooted in the soil. Right.
So that's why the recurrence rate of fibroids is like
sixty six percent and five years because you have to
test changes that have to be made, you know, absolutely,
and even after you have so now we have a
(32:28):
post op kit because if you have had surgery, you
want to make sure you heal, you recover properly, and
help your body to prevent the return. Right. That was
a huge part.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Can I say something because there's something that I learned
from you and actually was taking the D three earlier
in the process, right, So that was something that had
been defficient for a long time. And my understanding is
African Americans are.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Absolutely yeah, because of melanin our melon and blocks absorbed.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I had gone through periods with my primary my intern
is primary care physician, where I would take prescribed fifty
thousand US or whatever once we once a week, you know,
and I would go through periods and they would get
me up to like I've my D levels have been
as low as twelve. Oh my goodness, right, and they
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would thirty is low normal.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Right, and they would get me to thirty and will
be like, okay, and this is important for men and women, right,
give me to thirty and be okay. Thirty. That was it, right.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
As soon as I got to thirty with the I
used and I just go off of it. But I
would have to go back and fourth occasionally and retake it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
But your body is not going to make it on
its own. They educate you on.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
That, no, right, And this was the other part that
you shared with me. But then I've seen other studies
now as well as podcasts that talked about an optimal
level for me to be able to sort of support
my immune systems, especially given that I have an automiance.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes already isn't enough. No, that's struggle us.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yes, and that wasn't something but had ever been articulated
whatever I've seen across and I think I looked at
some of my lap work, you know, as far as.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like twenty ten, and I think there was one.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
There was a twenty ten months before I had the
irimune condition, and I had eighty four.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That was and then so, but then you never consistently
continue to take it to maintain That's the like the
misinformation is once you so well, I.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Was eighty four before I had the automium condition. It's
never been right.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But my point is, once you get to eighty four,
you want to continue taking D three, but at a
lot you want to take about twenty five hundred I use,
which is five drops on our bottle, right, that's to
keep maintaining.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It at high lights and the coaches, she's like, Angela,
you gotta take like twelve drops of this well.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
For now, like ten is fine time, five thousand, ten
is good, right, So if you're taking five thousand a day,
then you're going to increase. But if you're taking anything
below that, you're not going to be increasing your number.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
The only thing is you have to hide your D
three K two from other people.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Because your husband's.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Let me ask you, what has the difference that you've seen?
What has that been like for you? After saying okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yes, tell us, tell us what happened afterwards?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh yeah, so, uh, it was roughly eight weeks where
I started to see a change in my cycle. Right,
So I was having about every eighteen days. There were
a gradual sort of increase in the time between one
second from the other. So I saw that. But eight
weeks is when it started being for for four weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Four days, crazy four days.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's pretty quick, especially.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
With the audio immune issue, right, and.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now it's been a month. It's been twelve months four
days ago, consistently four days, seven a month, once a month,
twenty seven to twenty eight days apart.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But that's so that's one of the difference you imagine, No,
I'm not I'm not going to step that anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I don't realize how difficult that was until you're not
having to deal with it anymore.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
And increase in energy because the not only having the
low les but the low iron, so energy was effected to.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
A domino effect of everything.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
So so that that was improved. My iron levels have increased,
I think. And one of the greatest things or greatest
testimonies is the from my first uh you know, ultrasound
and then I got an MRI. Those test results show
roughly about like all I'm saying roughly, it was eighteen
(36:44):
point eight percent decrease in my uterus size. The fibroids
started to started to shrink. And there's some other language
that they put on the on the results that help
you to understand that it's real source of energy that's
feeding it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That's fantastic and so and the doctors know. She's like,
keep doing what you do, right, And she said, well, fine,
we won't.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
We're not exploring the surgery option, and well we'll do
a repeat, you know, MRI. So I am not finished
my journey, which which I'm okay with because I recognize
that the complexity of the autommune disease and all of
that requires more time. Yes, but but the shift in
the in my life, the quality of life right has
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been fairly extreme had a short.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Period of time.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
What would you say are some of the lifestyle changes
that are permanent for you after this?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh well, I probably will never stop taking these three Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yes, thank you. You see the difference than that.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
And I've been taking the supplements. I'm you know, I'm
still taking them because again I'm part part of the journey.
But I probably will, you know, with the perfect guidance,
continue to take supplements. I recognize that it's necessary, especially
because I have a system that is always going to
be fighting against I'm taking, you know, so redence. I
continue to experiment stress and most of us do at
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some level.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So being able to be aware of those things.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
And moditor that I think are the parts for me
that are going to be consistent.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
No, I love that in my life and I you know,
so one of the quests, I got a question this
week which was, you know, how long does it take
to shrink fibroids? And I literally just posted about it
because you know, some people are like, well, I've been
taking the supplements for a month now and my fibers
are still here. I'm like, well, the fibrids didn't come
here in thirty days, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
That, right, It's different for everyone.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
But they didn't develop in thirty days amount of time, right,
It's different for everybody exactly. And I said, every woman's
journey is different. Every the fibroids are different how your
body responds, right, So it was very important, you know,
And what I shared was that, you know, when Selena
was here her journey, she saw changes in three weeks.
She doesn't have an autoimmune condition, right that is literally
(39:09):
slowing down her healing process. She saw a major shrinkage
of a nine point one centimeter fiber to four centimeters
in six weeks. That was her body's response. Dias is
very different, but it's still significant because of everything that
her just even the level, even if you didn't have
an autoimmune issue, the level at which you're traveling, the
(39:33):
stress that you're under, everything that like that creates an
inflammatory environment that your body has to navigate on a
day to day basis at a high level. So let's
say the autoimmune issue was not even present, that alone
created a more pressure environment. But then with the autoimmune
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condition that now slows the process down, it creates the
adverse friction, right, and.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Then so the medication that I take, the medication prevents
some of the actual work that your body needs to
do exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
So here what I think, what I want people to
know is look at the sign first of all, the
consistency righting, don't give up on the process, allow your
body and be educated about what to expect, like now
on all of the pages, whether it's in the manual
we have because we actually just expanded our balancer system
into six kits, which are the Bouncer Fibrids Kit, postop Kit, PMS, kit, menopause, kit,
(40:36):
p mostices, and endometriosis. Because we realized everybody was feeling like, well,
what's different about my scenario versus this, we had to
add on certain things for certain people. So we're like,
let's literally make it no guesswork. And the manual is
very simple for each and everyone, right, And what I
want I put in each manual on each web page
is for them to know what to expect in thirty days,
(40:59):
what to expect in sixty days, what to expect in
ninety days, so that you understand that your your body
is on a journey.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's a process.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, exactly, And just like you give yourself, you know,
let's look at what are the what are the mile
markers to look for. She talked about return of energy, right,
being able to have better sleep because of return of
energy is something many women experience. No longer feeling being anemic,
her blood work changing, right, feeling more calm. Also because
(41:29):
now you're not you're managing your stress. Yeah you go
bleed exactly, Like these are really important things that help
create a sense of homeosasis where your nervous system is
being regulated, right, and now your body's in a condition
where it can start to help support fighting those fibroids
(41:50):
or whatever the reproductive health issue is, because if you
don't set the expectation right, you will be like, well
does this change two weeks, three weeks? Like maybe, baby,
You've been fighting these days for ten years.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And I also want to stress that because I know
people who have started it and then things got better
and then just stopped.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
And you do have to be consistent.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
You can't be like, oh, it's better now, Well we're
back to like.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Most of us take a one a day vitamin or
a daily vitamin. I'm the way that I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
This is part of right.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, it's a daily routine, and for anybody listening. I
also do want to encourage because I know a lot
of women, I mean a majority of us have vibrates
who are kind of putting it off because they don't
feel like it's affecting them as negatively. Don't let it,
don't wait, yeah, and you know, make this something that
you do.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Don't do what I did.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean but everyone does that, you know, Like,
so I don't want you to feel like because it
is just what we do, Like we think it's normal
to say.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Oh, I'm not coming out. This is why we're educated.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Because'm a bleed too much so or I'm in too
much pain, so you know, I'm staying home today. Like
these are all indications if you don't want to sell,
by their warning signs.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
So now be aware of the warning signs like oh wait,
you know, oh heavy bleeding is not normal. Okay, I'm
gonna and now look at what I can do, like
take our quiz, you know, to the detalks now dot com.
Get the quiz. Take the quiz and see what support
you can give your body. A lot of it's quite.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Busy, I mean literally when am I You know, one
person I was talking to and I've been trying to
get her to get on this because she's, you know,
she really is going through a lot hers and I
think a lot of times we look at the other
things happening in our life, the stress, the other things
that we have going on, and that takes precedence.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Over taking care of ourselves exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
That's something you talk and that happens with a lot
of us. And at a certain point you have to say,
let me do this for me because I have to
take care of myself or everything else is not going
to flourish the way that it needs to.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Like, I think about you know, everybody that depends on
udea and everything. What would have happened if your body
just broke down to the point where you were hemorrhaging
and you you like, right, Heaven forbid? Right, yeah, right,
but yeah that's a for reality.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
It could have been a reality, and that would have
an even more devastating effect on my family and those
that I know. I'm responsible and we think I can't
because I need to be here for my family.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
It's like, and the reality is right, and reality is
your family needs you to be as healthy as possible.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
And they want you to. So yes, well it is
Vibrates Freedom Month.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Who right? And I do want to shout out the
White Dress Project because they actually helped establish five words
Awareness Month legislation. Right, And that's why I'm wearing white
because one of the things that you mentioned earlier was
having to wear certain colors, having to wear I'm wearing white.
Now that's not even just because of that, is because
(44:45):
I know me, I was cleaning a stance anyway. So
the point, the point is the point is that we
get to reclaim that and at the end of the day.
I want women to understand that listening to your body
is like one of the greatest gifts you can give
yourself is saying I'm not going to keep you know,
(45:08):
pitting the snooze button and ignoring these warning signs right
that I'm going to say, you know what, I'm gonna
check this while it's PMS. PMS is already no, not normal.
No happy period is normal. Okay, I'm already dealing with
something abnormal, even if you know you're And the crazy
thing is when I have these sessions Angela and Dia,
(45:29):
like they've been having crazy cycles, some girls since some
women since they were like twelve. Yeah, and I go back, Oh,
what was going on in your life? Oh my parents
got divorced, or oh I dealt with, you know, bullying
in school, or I was I dealt with, you know,
molestation or some sort of trauma in their lives, or
(45:49):
I dealt with a parent who was put a lot
of pressure on me for perfectionism, whatever it was, and
because of that they had this trauma that created heavy cycles.
Then so there in an inflammatory environment, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
You remember in college friends that were having like wouldn't
go to class.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah right, so I.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Know people do like go to work for like that's
not normal, nor I wish they would have had this.
Then well, this is why we're sharing it. So go
to the detoxnow dot com because I'm telling you we're
here for your freedom. Take the quiz see how you
can support your body and everything is twenty five percent off.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Hey Bet, that's so much for sharing with It's important
for your real life stories because it is.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It is encouraging, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
In the most it feels like an extreme case, you
know what I mean, because people don't realize they'll be like,
well it won't work for me, or I can't handle it,
I can't navigate it, I can't do it. And I
think what I loved you is that you're like proof positive,
like you know.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
What, no, and you can't I mean, you just have
to make a decision right at some point. I know
it works, and I'm sure that there at some level
there are some people where other things, other interventions are necessary.
But I've seen it work for a lot of people
I've and it was really about time for me to
(47:19):
make the informed decision right to do something else, and
hopefully people won't wait until surgery.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Is the.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Option that forces them into taking care of themselves better.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
If you have had surgery, please look into the post
stop kit that we just because for real, you don't
want to be dealing with this trauma again.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Yeah, again and again. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, and the potential surgical complications. You know, I was
telling Dia, So I just came back from vacation. I
literally have been walking around with the water because it's
really hot. We're in your and it's like one hundred
something degrees every day everywhere right now. Yeah, well now
it is. And because of the small about you know,
obstructions multiple and now I have a small vow syndrome
(48:03):
now where I have less than three feet of small intestine.
Because of all the complications from the firebird surgeries, not
the firebirds, but the surgeries, I can easily become dehydrated,
Like I mean easily, Like I have to drink water
every couple of minutes when I'm in the heat, and
it is like a reality. I was last year, I think,
at a press conference in DC for Firebirds awareness. I
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literally almost passed out and it was a reality and
I don't like. Let's not let things get to that point.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Right, all right, all right, love y'all, well, thank you,
I appreciate it. I'm going to the dentist now because
that's another thing. We got to take care of everything. Yes,
never find, but I gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
All right, it's way up
What's up is way up with Angela Yee And you
know July is Fiveraards Awareness Month, which we are now
renaming with my partner and the Detax Now coach Jesse.
Coach Jesse is back in the building and we are
renaming this right.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's right, okay, Fibroids Freedom Month.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Fibrords Freedom Month.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, you know how many people want to.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Be free from those fibrards stations we've been having. Now
most women do already know fibraids exist, and I want
to say that is a huge change because I remember
even when I first started in radio, fibraids was not
a conversation that people were having so frequently.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But now women need.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
More education, they need empowerment, practical action because you don't
have to just know that it exists.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You have to help women reclaim.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Their health and their quality of life, which is something
that Coach Jesse has been doing and that's what today's
conversation is all about.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, so joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
My partner, Coach Jesse Thompson, and welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Love you, love you too.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You're a fibrard survivor, yes, also a health activist, founder
of Detox Now, and you've also dedicated years to educating
women about reprotective health, helping them advocate for themselves. And
we have another incredible guest who's a friend of yours today, Yeah,
who is an internationally respected bow Down Technology executive, global
(01:24):
speaker and responsible keyword responsible right, responsible AI leader at
Amazon Web Services. So you are known around the world
for helping organizations build artificial intelligence responsibly, and you spent
your career leading at the highest levels of technology. But
behind all of that, the titles, the conferences, I mean
we're talking about you flying out internationally this weekend, behind
(01:48):
these executive meetings, you are also privately battling advanced fibrarid
disease and you are sharing your journey with us. We're
so fortunate to have you today, So welcome Dia Tway.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yes, and you know, for me, the most people they
know this title, right, But I want people to get
a sense of who you are. So if you could
just kind of share what drives you with your passion
and you know, what does that look like every day
for you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Sure, So, once again, thank you so much for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, Dia, I guess I'm a girl from the South Bronx. Right, Hey,
born and raised in the Bosom.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm born and raised in Harlem, And you know, I
took an I guess not traditional path because we were
talking about this earlier, but my family were teachers, and
I got a computer in the third grade and decided
I was going to be a computer engineer. And I've
been working in technology all in my career, so three
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decades in emerging tech, and I've watched technology come into businesses,
help businesses figure out the ways in which they were
going to use that to make money, and reimagine the
way in which they worked right from the Internet all
the way to now with artificial intelligence. But at the
core of it, you know, my core premise, especially right
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now with what AI is doing, is to really think
about how do we leverage the technology in ways that
doesn't cause us to lose our agency and then we
can still flourish as humans. And I think that was
also part of the challenge with me as we talk
about my experience. Am I really flourishing through this experience
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that I'm having And what costs did it require of
me given all that I was investing in the work.
But that's a little bit of the work, and then
you know, outside of that, it's I'm a mom. You know,
I spent a lot of time two boys.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, a mom.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I spent a lot of time investing in our children,
but also the next generation. And you know, I'm committed
to creating space for people that typically aren't in the room,
in particular around technology, but in other avenues when I'm
mentoring or working with young people. So that's been a
part of the work in the mission. It's really what
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I'm passionate about, making spaces better than when I came
in and making sure that as we evolve and leverage
technology in the way that we are, that it's not
doing harm.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What was it like when you came in, because you
said thirty years and I have, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Oh well, it's I mean, it's entirely different than I was,
of course, but some things are the same unfortunately, like
not having a lot of women in the room or
not having.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
People of color.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Back then, it was interesting because you know, I was
saying that teachers, being a nurse were acceptable roles, and
so the idea that I wanted to do technology is
a little strength, especially since I didn't have pictures of
that around me, and so for a long time, I
also didn't have mentors or individuals that I saw that
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looked like myself in those rooms. And that's why I'm
committed to doing the work that I do now, because
I want to be what I did, not die for other.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
People, right, not the only one room. And you're also
a caregiver. Right, let's talk about how you know this
is the thing. So she's a boss, but then she's
saving the world, like you know, her family, one member
at a time, and that's a huge part, you know,
being caregivers for people in your family. And they always
say you got to put your oxygen mask.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yes, actually I'm guilty for not doing that right, absolutely,
And that was part of our conversations at the early
stages that I actually had fibroids for a while and
knew about it, but didn't do anything really to address it.
And I was much more concerned about taking care of
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my family.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And my father.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Had a stroke, so I was, you know, nursing him
back to life. Those were the things in between the
travel I'm coming back and immediately running back to know
the work that I had to do for him, so
I didn't focus on it and in part, I didn't
focus on my health as it relates to that was
because I wasn't in pain.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
How did you know pain?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Right? So what did it look like? That's what I
was going to say.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, so I found out that I had five boys
initially because of routine sort of testing.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I do I do that part? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I make sure I go.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And following COVID, you know, we had that small period
where people weren't going to the doctors. Finally went back
and they said I had five boards and I was
like okay and accepting it because what seventy five eighty
five percent.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Woman exactly had by boyds. So I was like, okay,
women overall, eighty percent of women overall, and the one
comes to black women is up to ninety percent. So right,
you were like, I got were they interrupting your life
at that time?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Not initially at that time, not initially, so I didn't
have pain. I didn't notice anything obvious. So I kept
on just with it, and no one really said to
me that I had to do anything at that point, right,
just you know you have them right, But but over
you know, those few years, that situation changed and so
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how did I notice?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It was really the.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Frequent periods because I had gotten to the point of
getting my cycle every eighteen days and what it has
so that is good and it running six to seven days.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I have period sixty seven days.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
When I had it, It's like half your a lot
of month, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And and you know, and that was that X extreme.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So about twenty twenty four, right towards that's when I
started to see that emerge.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
By twenty twenty, so COVID, you got diagnosed post COVID,
so that's around twenty twenty, well, about twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty two post COVID. Okay, so after that at
that time, this nothing's really bothering you. But life is
still stressful. Life is still caring for other people, the
heavy travel, so your body's always in this constant inflammatory
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state in terms of pressure. And then you have also
an autoimmune.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I have an autoimmune disease, so I have my Stenia
gravis and that, as you know, autoimmune diseases sort of
create additional inflammation in your body, in your system.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So that was at present with fibroids. So think about
the impact that that also had on fibroids.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So with surgery something that was an option because you
did have a having an autoimmune disease, it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Was an option.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And actually we had gotten to the point where they wanted,
or my intern is recommended that I go to the
OPGAG and consider surgery. And that's really at the point
where I was led to look at something else, right,
And you know, a large part of me not wanting
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to do the surgery was because I knew that with
my autoimmune condition, it meant that my recovery time could
potentially be double what anyone else would have.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And the risks also the elevated risks around respiratory UH
interactions with anesthesia. There were other many I.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Didn't focus on those as much. There were two primary things.
One was recovery time. We're talking about me being a caregiver,
a mom, doing the things at the church all the time, right,
so I couldn't afford to be down, or at least
in my mind, I could be afford to be down
that long. And then the other thing was surgery doesn't
really fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
There were actually you're breaching our message right there. Girls.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well I've learned, but in all honesty, the surgery wasn't
going to address the fatigue. It was than going to
do us what had become now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
The environment that had created it.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Right, what had become now anemia? My iron was low?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
But why we actually didn't talk about the heavy bleeding.
You talked about the period coming. But what was that like?
Because I remember your number being crazy, you know, saying
how you were changing every.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Oh about every ninety minutes, right, So.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was that's the worst too, because you know you
can't even go to sleep if you have to keep
on changing because you have to get up.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well, okay, so tell us your plan because I know
you had. How did you handle it? And it didn't
always work? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
So but I would have an overnight pad, right, so
those were extra, and then you have those.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I have like a diaper, super tampon.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I would put on period pennies, so the ones that
have like the extra you know with carbon or whatever
that's in there. They're supposed to also help rubs orb.
I would put on shorts, right, So if I was
going to bed, I put on shorts.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And this is to go to damas you have.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
To go to bed, No, trust me, I didn't listen.
But if I was out publicly. I was navigating my
time and work around trying to make sure that I
was going to be able to get to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, because it's the worst.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
When you know you're going to have to go and
change it and I don't want to bleed through my clothes.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And I've I've been embarrassed that way, right, So every
every suitcase.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I have.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
In my car, you know, components or whatever, extra things
to be able to accommodate what I knew was going
to Invita be happening. Because at first I used to
get super embarrassed. I mean, I've been at work in
what's an get.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
The story something that happened? Tell us a story of
something that happened. Because you're an executive, this is a
professional who is like at the highest levels of the
echelon of the organization and the work. How are you
navigating it? Because they're women who are just in everyday life.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The navigation was entirely what I was saying, just making
sure that I had extra things with me at all times.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So I'm saying, and it happened, and it still happen.
It's happened to me too, so.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So you know, I'm I'm in an office. We had
a meeting, and the meeting went longer than I was
planning for it, right, And so I essentially waited for
everyone to leave, right.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I sat there at.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
This point, and I could have left earlier when other
people were leaving, but I had to wait for everybody
else to leave because by now I am pretty sure, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I feel that it's happening, and yeah, it's too late,
but the embarrassing it's too late, the embarrassing to see,
we're a nice these chairs, aren't they clothes?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Cloth?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So yeah, so being in a cloth chair is another
part of the problem, right, because right after I fixed myself,
I then had to go and clean the chair in
the office.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And you're like, please don't let anybody see this.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's like having a happy change of clothes.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Or I mean, and there are certain times where you
wear certain kinds of clothing because you figure, like I
could always have a jacket the cover. I've had to
have times where I've my jacket off and tied it
around my waist, you know, And some of that can
be stylish at times. But but but in the office, no,
and hoping that no one else comes into there before
I could go clean it out. Was cool, And I've
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had that. I've had that happen one too many times
that I cared to admit. And you, you know, you
and I were talking about this. I rarely talk about
this part of it because even my husband knew that
I was dealing with some things, but not to the extent.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So I sort of what's crazy is even after we
had our first coaching session, she didn't like she said, yeah,
I have farbers. It's time for me to deal with them, okay,
because all right, you're ready to take action. She never
said she was going through all this. I was like,
what are your cycles? We never like somehow it never
came up.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And then like sometimes it feels so normalized too. It's
what you do because you know, I've listened. When I
went and found out about my fibruary is they also
say my uterus was enlarged too. And that's part of why,
because she was asking me, like, well, do you bleed
like really? Because I bleed really heavy for a day
like or two, and then once I get past that,
it's much better. But I know for that like a
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couple of days, it's a hassle and it just feels
regular though, because you do it every month.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And it's not. It's not normal just because it's common.
It's not normal actually, And that was one of the things.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
That you you were saying to me at the very beginning,
is that it's common, not normal, and that I didn't
have to just live with that. And I did because
I knew the numbers, right, And it's interesting because I
also know Jesse's story. So I had been sharing the
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detox now with other people, but you all need to
do this, but I had not. And again I didn't
and I didn't think about it until the doctor said
to me I needed consider surgery.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And I was like, I'm not doing so until it
became something that you couldn't manage anymore, where like okay,
now something else has to be done.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That I guess, Yeah, that really was the point. And
surgery is a major deal. And so I know you've
done research on your own to understand other options. You know,
is surgery going to fix this or is it just
a band aid on something temporarily well?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And it is.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I mean, it's a band aid unless we address the
other conditions and the body absolutely that were causing that, right,
So and.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You're always severely anemic and vitamin D deficient.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, interestingly enough, and in preparation for the conversation, I
went back right to look at my information. I wasn't
always anemic. I became an emic, and here was the
other thing at a timeline, so it probably was around
so from twenty twenty two to probably twenty twenty four
is when I started seeing the much heavy your cycles.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
They were lasting.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
You became a seven days. That's when I started to
become anemic. And I went back and saw and looked
at what work. Because of the immune disease, I have
regular like full panels every every six months, and and
so I actually could go back and see that I
wasn't always anemic. I became anemic because of the excessive bleeding.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Absolutely my iron levels somebody wasn't making couldn't keep up.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
My iron stores were low, and they also wasn't working
efficiently saturation, right, So I saw all of those numbers affected.
But even and I guess I wasn't looking at that
right because I could see, you know, QUEST does a
great job, it's red here, but but I really I
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didn't until they said surgery, and then I was like
I'm not doing that, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Was and me finally do something, and you know, and
I understand that too because a lot of times as
women were like, of course, i'm a name, and we
think those things like you said, they're they're not normal,
but they are common and I'm managing it well.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And the other thing was that they were my unius
had increased in size, so they were growing and they
did make me aware of that as well. And and
the surgery was the moment, right, but I was you
remember when I texted her early one Sunday morning because
I was praying about it and I'm like, okay, so
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now was that was that it was time for this
to be real for me? And I was like, I
just found out right, and I said, and I'm not
having surgery, so like.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And I know, coach Jesse texts you right back, she did.
Let's get on the calendar.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And the funny thing is that I told Mark that
I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So we know each other from church. From church, my
husband was, you know, Bible teacher and she was in
his classes, and you know, but they knew each other
closer first, so so so he would say, hey, deals
reach out to you. I was like, do you reaching
out to me?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
So I texted him and he was like, well, she's
out of town. So she's like, she's not and I
messaged him back. I was like, she got right back.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know, he was like, oh, she's not gonna playing.
But but that was the moment. So so for me
here it is right. It's like, how many steps along
the way are our sisters suffering? Right? Because now there's awareness,
more awareness, like you talked about that, yeah, you know
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fireb words are present, and that their conversations are happening.
You've had you know, you've had Venus Williams tell her story.
Lapita told her story how last year and then now
she you know, firebirds came back. She has fifty fibroids
and you know they're the conversation is common like, oh
they're they're you know, vomiting like Serena. Serena Venus talked
about how she was vomiting on the floor waiting to
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do one of the matches. She was in so much
pain and she was terribly anemic. Like the conversations around.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It happened time, and I think that's the other thing
that helped to normalize it for me and not to
push me to do it because I was like everybody well,
and it was.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Extreme and in my condition every girl, but just a
routine she had, she was able to manage it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And you're right because sometimes at these stories of being
told more, we're hearing the extreme cases.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
And they're talking about a lot of And I have
friends that were in pain. My sister wasn't, my mom
was in pain.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So it was that was your trigger. You were like, bleeding,
I can handle. But so for me, this is where
it's like, Okay, this is why the freedom part is
the take action part. You know, it's because you know
I have I'm so happy everybody's talking about it, but
I want people actually educated and empowered with solutions because
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early on, when you're body, these are warning signs. Your
body was saying, hey hey I can them, Hey something's wrong.
Hey no, no, no, you know, medically, you're not supposed
to bleed more than three to five tablespoons medically, not,
according to coach Jesse. According to Nationalistitute of Health, medically, scientifically,
that's all it takes to shed that lining. Medically, it's
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supposed to be no more than five days the period
medically it's no more and and almost twice a month.
Sometimes it's supposed to be once a month, like every
twenty eight so days. So think about that. The body
is saying, you know, I say that if we don't
listen to the whispers, we will have to reckon with
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the screams, right because the bodies say, hey, hey, it's tapping. Okay,
hey baby girl, Hey you're chewing ice. Something's wrong. It's
chewing ice that's not in the area.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
People were going my husband and a couple of my friends,
and I didn't even realize I started chewing ice like that.
He was like, Laura, are you going to bed with
that ice? Are you figure something out?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Because I would come in the bedroom with a what
a cup?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
You know, I have my water by the side of
the bed, but it was phill of ice and I
was chomping it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So the surgery was what woke The idea that you
might have to have surgery that was recommended to you
was what woke you up where you said, okay, now
it's time for me to take control. What did that
look like after you decided I want to explore some
other options.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
It was the call to Jesse. I didn't even look
at other options. Okay, because it was finally I already
had known her story. I was already recommending the detox
now to other people. It was time for me to
take your own message.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So what was the plan?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
So we had a chat. Uh, she got right back
to me and we started off with it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Was what it was now, all a bounce or five
words kit.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
But so and and the other thing was interesting, you
know you start off with the with the water fast, right.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So she started to do a reset first. But we
were very gentle with her. We were like and and
so Jesse.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So Jesse was just like, okay, like, let's figure out
when we're going to start this, because you're traveling and
you should really do this at home. And I was
traveling every week all the time. So we talked in February.
I hadn't even started. It was April, right, so May
I finally was like, look, I'm just going to do it.
I'll have to do it traveling. Yeah, right, I'm going
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to start, and so I started. I started.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Mayfeth was that when you were going to California. I
was exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
May went out to San Diego, was going to speaking
at a conference and I just I just started. So
I went. I didn't do the full seven days because
we modify and Mother's Day was the next Sunday. The
next Sunday, and you know, my husband and kids were
taking me out or whatever. So I did, but I
did five days. I lost twelve pounds. I was checking
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in with her and saying, look like this is how
was going.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I remember she was doing and she was like, I'm
doing good. I'm like not struggling.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
And I remember towards the end, I started to get
like the itching and stuff my body detoxing or whatever.
And after that then I started taking on the supplements.
And so we started off with a four month plan. Yeah,
and I think the four month plan was somewhat again gentle,
and it's just.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
She didn't do any crazy nutrition changes, like I knew.
I was like, she needs it to be as sustainably
consist something she can be consistent with every day, right,
like easy to put in her routine. Right. So it
was like you're taking it once a day. She was
taking the balance or the eliminator of the detox or
in the D three plusation once a day. That's it.
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That was literally and.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Now with the detax now it's so much simpler. I've
heard her plans.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I came in at the rate you did.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Honestly, that is.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Part of the challenge, right, is that we are all
busy running around doing things.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
We want to make this something.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That you can do.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You can handle it, you know, to feel like, oh
I forgot which one did I take?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Which day I got to carry on?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
How many times day do I?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think I think that it's it's structured in a
way to make it fairly straightforward, and I think the
biggest thing is about consistency, and since I try to
be consistent in other areas of my life and disciplined,
I won't say that it wasn't necessarily it wasn't easy initially.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Because it was something you wasn't doing before exactly into
your life. But it really wasn't difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I mean, I get up in the morning, I take vitamins,
I do that, right, I was already doing that and
the eating part for me, I think the thing that
was the challenge was to embrace the idea of working
on how I do stress, because you to allow all
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of the stress to build up and there I feel
like every time I turn around there's another podcast that's
talking about how body holds on to stress that right,
and that stress is helping to create additional, additional fodder
to the cycle. Our system that isn't functioning. And I
have so much more to work through because I have
an autoimmune disease that's fighting.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Against your immune system.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
My immune system fighting against the way that my body's
supposed to actually process and handle iron right, it flares
up with stress. Supposedly I don't actually deal with that
most of the time. But but I'm taking you know, suppressence, right,
So all of that is working against what would you
know be easier, you know for some individuals. So I
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really had to think about I eat fairly clean. I'm
a pescatarian. So my husband was just like, are you
gonna do something You're not gonna eat again, right, He's
always like.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You don't eat no.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But but but so the biggest thing was, Okay, how
do we look for other ways to reduce the stress.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
For the biggest thing when I saw I was like,
you know, know, when we look at root because the
focus is tackling the root drivers. So we knew we
needed to, you know, deal with her vitamin D deficiency
and balance her hormones detox, you know, the excess estrogen
that was causing the hormonone balance. All that. We knew
that with the protocol, But then I also knew she
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was someone who was conscious about toxins in her body.
You know, she was already using the Yuka scanner. You know,
she was like, yeah, I'm using it already to make
sure my products are clean. And you know, all that
got all the clean paths got read of plastic and
all that glass. But the key thing I knew, I said,
but there's no margin in your life for recovery and rest.
So your nervous system regulation is where we had to
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focus the stress distressing because I was like, there's no
time for your body to recover, right, Like I said, even,
how are your meetings? Remember that conversation. I was like,
do you schedule your meetings back to back? They were?
I was like, uh uh, you are the boss, build
in at least thirty forty five minutes in between you
build it?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
And you said that right, Because I was allowing myself
to be subject to that, Yeah, I was like, you boss,
and there are and there are you know, there are
there are some things that I can't just move or whatever.
But but there really was a lot more flexible, absolutely,
and it was just having that.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Conversation and and accountability. Yeah, because she's like, you know,
I can do that. I was like, yes, you can.
I put some blocks on my calendar.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Was like, that's your time, and and and it's just
started to work. And there are some days where it's great,
it doesn't happen, but.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I did. I did.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And I have this wonderful thing now that I have
like one of those pop up saunas, so I get
in the sauna, a pop up sauna, Okay, we love that.
I want I'm gonna, you know, outfit the house at
some point with the I think it is really important
to be able to take in it a couple usually.
(27:57):
I thought, when I'm home, probably five days out of
the week, I have.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
A steam shower at home, and that steam shower is
every like when I travel, I'm like, I missed my
steam shower.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I haven't because it's not like they.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Have that anywore.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But that's one thing I know that like helps me
if I'm starting to feel sick.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It helps with your aches, your pain.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like, so it was something I was like, let's invest
in the steam shower because it is going to be
something really beneficial. I didn't have a space for a sauna, but.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Also pop up those big garden tubs that nobody gets
in anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So I get on the tub every day. What I
love is that we just had to reimagine how to
build recovery into her life, right, even like travel, like make.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
It convenient for you, like don't come back.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Home right after you finished speaking, like don't go to
all the sessions. Remember, I was like, why are you
going to all the sessions? You're so responsible? Like right,
I was like, you don't have to go to all
the sessions, no sentence. I will tell you speak and
then go to your room.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
The very first time I did this, We're in California,
San Francisco, San Diego, San Diego, beautiful weather, the hotel
balcony faces the water, and I text her picture I'm
sitting on the I was like, okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Missing I'm missing sessions right now, I'm doing it. So yeah, no, listen.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I had to go to an event in West Pond
Beach and instead of taking a flight at ten am
in the morning the next morning when it was time
to go, I took an evening flight and went to
the pool, sat out there, relaxed for the day, and
then went home in the evening.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I'm not as good about that sometimes because I have
folks at home there caring for so I usually I'm
running back to make sure I check out my dad
and do some of those things. But I've certainly introduced
a number of ways.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, I'm incredibly and I want to just take a
moment to just say we're not anti surgery in any way,
shape or form, right, because there are women who they
every woman's every woman's journey is different, right, and actually
require surgery right. Some need it, some choose it, and
it's their right to choose it, right. Some are some
(30:08):
aren't candidates for surgery right away. In your case, it
wasn't something that you personally were like, there's a lot
of risk that I don't want to I want to
don't want to manage around that. That's a lot more
for me to have to to manage around, right, And
it was just like, if I want to do something
that I want to tackle the route, I also want
to give myself more support on the long term.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I think something that doesn't happen enough is I
talk to my internas I talked to the gynecologists, and
I like them, Aboth, I actually love my internis right.
But there wasn't a conversation about something else.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I never it was life.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
It was really it was like, you should consider options
and surgery. We should be on the table right right
And the other options that were discussed with me were
all surgical when I went to the gynecologist. So when
I said this was what I was going to do,
it was about I think, you know, taking some agency
(31:15):
and exploring an option that I believe that we should,
as you say, have the freedom to be able to
sort of make that decision. My condition wasn't severe enough
that surgery was a monst and I was in some ways,
I'd admit that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I wanted to try.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
This approach, and when the gynecologists saw some results, she
was on board.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I love that, you know, and I think the important
conversation with what you both have said is also even
if someone did choose the surgery, or if it was
something that was a necessity, then you also have to
think about what does that look like after and how
do I, you know, manage this surgery? Doesn't Yeah, because
I didn't really address the environment that helps you so
(32:06):
and go back to the same exact thing.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
The way I explained is like think about a tree, right,
you cut off a branch and the tree is still
rooted in the soil. It's still rooted in the soil. Right.
So that's why the recurrence rate of fibroids is like
sixty six percent and five years because you have to
test changes that have to be made, you know, absolutely,
and even after you have so now we have a
(32:28):
post op kit because if you have had surgery, you
want to make sure you heal, you recover properly, and
help your body to prevent the return. Right. That was
a huge part.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Can I say something because there's something that I learned
from you and actually was taking the D three earlier
in the process, right, So that was something that had
been defficient for a long time. And my understanding is
African Americans are.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Absolutely yeah, because of melanin our melon and blocks absorbed.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I had gone through periods with my primary my intern
is primary care physician, where I would take prescribed fifty
thousand US or whatever once we once a week, you know,
and I would go through periods and they would get
me up to like I've my D levels have been
as low as twelve. Oh my goodness, right, and they
(33:19):
would thirty is low normal.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Right, and they would get me to thirty and will
be like, okay, and this is important for men and women, right,
give me to thirty and be okay. Thirty. That was it, right.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
As soon as I got to thirty with the I
used and I just go off of it. But I
would have to go back and fourth occasionally and retake it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
But your body is not going to make it on
its own. They educate you on.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
That, no, right, And this was the other part that
you shared with me. But then I've seen other studies
now as well as podcasts that talked about an optimal
level for me to be able to sort of support
my immune systems, especially given that I have an automiance.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes already isn't enough. No, that's struggle us.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yes, and that wasn't something but had ever been articulated
whatever I've seen across and I think I looked at
some of my lap work, you know, as far as.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like twenty ten, and I think there was one.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
There was a twenty ten months before I had the
irimune condition, and I had eighty four.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That was and then so, but then you never consistently
continue to take it to maintain That's the like the
misinformation is once you so well, I.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Was eighty four before I had the automium condition. It's
never been right.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But my point is, once you get to eighty four,
you want to continue taking D three, but at a
lot you want to take about twenty five hundred I use,
which is five drops on our bottle, right, that's to
keep maintaining.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It at high lights and the coaches, she's like, Angela,
you gotta take like twelve drops of this well.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
For now, like ten is fine time, five thousand, ten
is good, right, So if you're taking five thousand a day,
then you're going to increase. But if you're taking anything
below that, you're not going to be increasing your number.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
The only thing is you have to hide your D
three K two from other people.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Because your husband's.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Let me ask you, what has the difference that you've seen?
What has that been like for you? After saying okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yes, tell us, tell us what happened afterwards?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh yeah, so, uh, it was roughly eight weeks where
I started to see a change in my cycle. Right,
So I was having about every eighteen days. There were
a gradual sort of increase in the time between one
second from the other. So I saw that. But eight
weeks is when it started being for for four weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Four days, crazy four days.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's pretty quick, especially.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
With the audio immune issue, right, and.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now it's been a month. It's been twelve months four
days ago, consistently four days, seven a month, once a month,
twenty seven to twenty eight days apart.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But that's so that's one of the difference you imagine, No,
I'm not I'm not going to step that anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I don't realize how difficult that was until you're not
having to deal with it anymore.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
And increase in energy because the not only having the
low les but the low iron, so energy was effected to.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
A domino effect of everything.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
So so that that was improved. My iron levels have increased,
I think. And one of the greatest things or greatest
testimonies is the from my first uh you know, ultrasound
and then I got an MRI. Those test results show
roughly about like all I'm saying roughly, it was eighteen
(36:44):
point eight percent decrease in my uterus size. The fibroids
started to started to shrink. And there's some other language
that they put on the on the results that help
you to understand that it's real source of energy that's
feeding it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That's fantastic and so and the doctors know. She's like,
keep doing what you do, right, And she said, well, fine,
we won't.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
We're not exploring the surgery option, and well we'll do
a repeat, you know, MRI. So I am not finished
my journey, which which I'm okay with because I recognize
that the complexity of the autommune disease and all of
that requires more time. Yes, but but the shift in
the in my life, the quality of life right has
(37:35):
been fairly extreme had a short.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Period of time.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
What would you say are some of the lifestyle changes
that are permanent for you after this?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh well, I probably will never stop taking these three Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yes, thank you. You see the difference than that.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
And I've been taking the supplements. I'm you know, I'm
still taking them because again I'm part part of the journey.
But I probably will, you know, with the perfect guidance,
continue to take supplements. I recognize that it's necessary, especially
because I have a system that is always going to
be fighting against I'm taking, you know, so redence. I
continue to experiment stress and most of us do at
(38:14):
some level.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So being able to be aware of those things.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
And moditor that I think are the parts for me
that are going to be consistent.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
No, I love that in my life and I you know,
so one of the quests, I got a question this
week which was, you know, how long does it take
to shrink fibroids? And I literally just posted about it
because you know, some people are like, well, I've been
taking the supplements for a month now and my fibers
are still here. I'm like, well, the fibrids didn't come
here in thirty days, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
That, right, It's different for everyone.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
But they didn't develop in thirty days amount of time, right,
It's different for everybody exactly. And I said, every woman's
journey is different. Every the fibroids are different how your
body responds, right, So it was very important, you know,
And what I shared was that, you know, when Selena
was here her journey, she saw changes in three weeks.
She doesn't have an autoimmune condition, right that is literally
(39:09):
slowing down her healing process. She saw a major shrinkage
of a nine point one centimeter fiber to four centimeters
in six weeks. That was her body's response. Dias is
very different, but it's still significant because of everything that
her just even the level, even if you didn't have
an autoimmune issue, the level at which you're traveling, the
(39:33):
stress that you're under, everything that like that creates an
inflammatory environment that your body has to navigate on a
day to day basis at a high level. So let's
say the autoimmune issue was not even present, that alone
created a more pressure environment. But then with the autoimmune
(39:56):
condition that now slows the process down, it creates the
adverse friction, right, and.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Then so the medication that I take, the medication prevents
some of the actual work that your body needs to
do exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
So here what I think, what I want people to
know is look at the sign first of all, the
consistency righting, don't give up on the process, allow your
body and be educated about what to expect, like now
on all of the pages, whether it's in the manual
we have because we actually just expanded our balancer system
into six kits, which are the Bouncer Fibrids Kit, postop Kit, PMS, kit, menopause, kit,
(40:36):
p mostices, and endometriosis. Because we realized everybody was feeling like, well,
what's different about my scenario versus this, we had to
add on certain things for certain people. So we're like,
let's literally make it no guesswork. And the manual is
very simple for each and everyone, right, And what I
want I put in each manual on each web page
is for them to know what to expect in thirty days,
(40:59):
what to expect in sixty days, what to expect in
ninety days, so that you understand that your your body
is on a journey.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's a process.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, exactly, And just like you give yourself, you know,
let's look at what are the what are the mile
markers to look for. She talked about return of energy, right,
being able to have better sleep because of return of
energy is something many women experience. No longer feeling being anemic,
her blood work changing, right, feeling more calm. Also because
(41:29):
now you're not you're managing your stress. Yeah you go
bleed exactly, Like these are really important things that help
create a sense of homeosasis where your nervous system is
being regulated, right, and now your body's in a condition
where it can start to help support fighting those fibroids
(41:50):
or whatever the reproductive health issue is, because if you
don't set the expectation right, you will be like, well
does this change two weeks, three weeks? Like maybe, baby,
You've been fighting these days for ten years.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And I also want to stress that because I know
people who have started it and then things got better
and then just stopped.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
And you do have to be consistent.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
You can't be like, oh, it's better now, Well we're
back to like.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Most of us take a one a day vitamin or
a daily vitamin. I'm the way that I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
This is part of right.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, it's a daily routine, and for anybody listening. I
also do want to encourage because I know a lot
of women, I mean a majority of us have vibrates
who are kind of putting it off because they don't
feel like it's affecting them as negatively. Don't let it,
don't wait, yeah, and you know, make this something that
you do.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Don't do what I did.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean but everyone does that, you know, Like,
so I don't want you to feel like because it
is just what we do, Like we think it's normal
to say.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Oh, I'm not coming out. This is why we're educated.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Because'm a bleed too much so or I'm in too
much pain, so you know, I'm staying home today. Like
these are all indications if you don't want to sell,
by their warning signs.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
So now be aware of the warning signs like oh wait,
you know, oh heavy bleeding is not normal. Okay, I'm
gonna and now look at what I can do, like
take our quiz, you know, to the detalks now dot com.
Get the quiz. Take the quiz and see what support
you can give your body. A lot of it's quite.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Busy, I mean literally when am I You know, one
person I was talking to and I've been trying to
get her to get on this because she's, you know,
she really is going through a lot hers and I
think a lot of times we look at the other
things happening in our life, the stress, the other things
that we have going on, and that takes precedence.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Over taking care of ourselves exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
That's something you talk and that happens with a lot
of us. And at a certain point you have to say,
let me do this for me because I have to
take care of myself or everything else is not going
to flourish the way that it needs to.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Like, I think about you know, everybody that depends on
udea and everything. What would have happened if your body
just broke down to the point where you were hemorrhaging
and you you like, right, Heaven forbid? Right, yeah, right,
but yeah that's a for reality.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
It could have been a reality, and that would have
an even more devastating effect on my family and those
that I know. I'm responsible and we think I can't
because I need to be here for my family.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
It's like, and the reality is right, and reality is
your family needs you to be as healthy as possible.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
And they want you to. So yes, well it is
Vibrates Freedom Month.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Who right? And I do want to shout out the
White Dress Project because they actually helped establish five words
Awareness Month legislation. Right, And that's why I'm wearing white
because one of the things that you mentioned earlier was
having to wear certain colors, having to wear I'm wearing white.
Now that's not even just because of that, is because
(44:45):
I know me, I was cleaning a stance anyway. So
the point, the point is the point is that we
get to reclaim that and at the end of the day.
I want women to understand that listening to your body
is like one of the greatest gifts you can give
yourself is saying I'm not going to keep you know,
(45:08):
pitting the snooze button and ignoring these warning signs right
that I'm going to say, you know what, I'm gonna
check this while it's PMS. PMS is already no, not normal.
No happy period is normal. Okay, I'm already dealing with
something abnormal, even if you know you're And the crazy
thing is when I have these sessions Angela and Dia,
(45:29):
like they've been having crazy cycles, some girls since some
women since they were like twelve. Yeah, and I go back, Oh,
what was going on in your life? Oh my parents
got divorced, or oh I dealt with, you know, bullying
in school, or I was I dealt with, you know,
molestation or some sort of trauma in their lives, or
(45:49):
I dealt with a parent who was put a lot
of pressure on me for perfectionism, whatever it was, and
because of that they had this trauma that created heavy cycles.
Then so there in an inflammatory environment, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
You remember in college friends that were having like wouldn't
go to class.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah right, so I.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Know people do like go to work for like that's
not normal, nor I wish they would have had this.
Then well, this is why we're sharing it. So go
to the detoxnow dot com because I'm telling you we're
here for your freedom. Take the quiz see how you
can support your body and everything is twenty five percent off.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Hey Bet, that's so much for sharing with It's important
for your real life stories because it is.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It is encouraging, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
In the most it feels like an extreme case, you
know what I mean, because people don't realize they'll be like,
well it won't work for me, or I can't handle it,
I can't navigate it, I can't do it. And I
think what I loved you is that you're like proof positive,
like you know.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
What, no, and you can't I mean, you just have
to make a decision right at some point. I know
it works, and I'm sure that there at some level
there are some people where other things, other interventions are necessary.
But I've seen it work for a lot of people
I've and it was really about time for me to
(47:19):
make the informed decision right to do something else, and
hopefully people won't wait until surgery.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Is the.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Option that forces them into taking care of themselves better.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
If you have had surgery, please look into the post
stop kit that we just because for real, you don't
want to be dealing with this trauma again.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Yeah, again and again. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, and the potential surgical complications. You know, I was
telling Dia, So I just came back from vacation. I
literally have been walking around with the water because it's
really hot. We're in your and it's like one hundred
something degrees every day everywhere right now. Yeah, well now
it is. And because of the small about you know,
obstructions multiple and now I have a small vow syndrome
(48:03):
now where I have less than three feet of small intestine.
Because of all the complications from the firebird surgeries, not
the firebirds, but the surgeries, I can easily become dehydrated,
Like I mean easily, Like I have to drink water
every couple of minutes when I'm in the heat, and
it is like a reality. I was last year, I think,
at a press conference in DC for Firebirds awareness. I
(48:25):
literally almost passed out and it was a reality and
I don't like. Let's not let things get to that point.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Right, all right, all right, love y'all, well, thank you,
I appreciate it. I'm going to the dentist now because
that's another thing. We got to take care of everything. Yes,
never find, but I gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
All right, it's way up
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