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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up this way up at Angela yee and this
is such a tree for me to see these young ladies,
Cocoa and Breezy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Thank you for joining me today.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Thank you for having us now.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
If you can't watch us right now, they are twins, okay.
But I want to say that y'all have been in
this business for such a long time. Some people see
the success that you've had as DJs. You have an
EP that came out in February that is a meditative
house music combination EP.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Which I love. It's called Free.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But you also are you know, eyewear designers, and that's
something you've been doing for a long time. As a
matter of fact, when I first met you, guys, that's
what you were doing.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I want to say, I don't even know when
we met.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I think like two thousand and eleven or ten or something.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I should have bought my Cocoa and Breezy glasses because
I still have them. But you guys had such a
special ara about you and then designing and then even
just how you look like. People could look at you
and be like, okay, they have something, thank you. And
you're from Minnesota, yep, which is interesting. Because Minnesota. Minnesota
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has a lot going on right now, the No King's protest,
that's kind of like the epicenter of it all.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Do you go to Minnesota often?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We don't really. We don't really have a lot of
family there. Our mom is the only person there, so
for the last like ten years, she just loves coming
to us. She's like, yeah, it's so cool. We were
like in the South in Indiana, so we don't really.
We left Minnesota all the way in like two thousand
and nine and came to New York.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So what was it like growing up as young women
in Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I feel like growing up in Minnesota, we grew up
in the suburbs, so we were like the only Afro
Latina people in our school pretty much, and we grew
up heavily. My dad from the South and my mom
Puerto Rican. The culture was so strong in our household,
but there is no culture at the schools that we
went to. And then on top of that, our parents
really allowed us to be ourselves, so we really stood out.
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And I think about it, I'm like, we got bull
then people stared at us. But as I continue to
grow as a woman, and like and I grow spiritually.
I mind, were people staring at us or were they
seen our light before we saw our own light?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Ooh, it's how you interpret it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, some time I've been thinking about lately, like deeply,
do you keep.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
In touch with anybody or do people reach out because
you know, there's always for people that you went to
school with to.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Try it again. Contact.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Actually, you actually have a friend named Sharita. She's our
best friend from like seventh grade and a song that's
called Dreams on our EP. We recorded a conversation with
her and we added it into our song that's so yeah,
and her name's in there and everything, so that song's
very special. So we have a couple childhood friends that
are still there.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh well, that's good.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I like to hear that because and I like how
you just kind of turned around that interpretation because for
kids today, bullying is such a big deal, and I
think it's even worse with social media. Yeah, Like imagine
if you had to grow up and people had things
to say and leave comments.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, that could be even worse.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So you moved to Brooklyn, yep, and you only had
one thousand dollars between you?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, how old were you when you moved.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
To New York nineteen. We were like, we had just
turned nineteen, like a month before we moved.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did you know what you're like, did you have a
plan or were you just like we got to just
get to New York.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Our plan was we were gonna grow our eyewear company,
and everyone thought we were crazy because at that time
we were working at the Mall of America and I
remember quitting my job. I remember acquitting my job. My
managers like, you're gonna move to New York. It's going
to be so hard. And so our plan where we
did have a plan. Our plan was to move to
New York and get a job. But we never got
a job. We were able to like fund ourselves. It
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was a hustle, but we were able to like do
Cocumbreez eyewear full time. And I think that it was
like it was something that intuition where we knew that
it was we kind of like we used to walk
down the street and random people and I say it
was angels. Random people would come up to us and
be like, I support art. Here's five hundred dollars into
thick glasses off our face. And that's how we got
our first month of rent.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That is wild. Yeah, and I think that random.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yes, it happened times, and that's how we got our
couple of months of rent. And I think that during
that time there's a feeling that people get when it's
your time to try something new and take that risk.
It's a sign. It's been a cycle in our lives
ever since we were like super little, and so we
knew it was a scary decision, but like we took
the signs and we went for it, and we were
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guided protected, we trusted it, but we also knew that
even though it was a hustle, we knew would pay off.
Even if it wasn't going to pay off immediately, we
knew it was going to pay off one day.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You felt that you knew that there was something that was,
like you said, guiding you. Sometimes there's so much noise
or we talk ourselves out of things, yea, and you
can feel like, just like when you said, the manager
at the store is like, that's going to be hard,
that's you know, going to be impossible. But that's how
people feel a lot of times, they'll put that on
you because they feel that way.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
About themselves too.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They're scared to make a move.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's interesting because as long as I've known both of you,
I remember meeting you early on and not knowing your
full story, just knowing that like, okay, these are you know,
the women that are the eyewear designers. Y'all made the
most amazing glasses even back then, and just had like
that look where you just felt like and very sweet, awesome,
because I think that as people stars grow, sometimes they
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can become.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
More inaccessible.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, but you've always managed to just kind of really
stay grounded.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I remember also seeing you in the Beyonce party video
and they're like.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Hold on is that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
How did that happen?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So we're really good friends with Ty Hunter, and he
was her stylist and so a long. I don't know
how we met Tay. We met him somewhere. I remember
when Breeze and I were like living in Brooklyn and
Bushwick when it was scary to go to Bushwick and
we were sharing a yeah, we were sharing a futime
and we had like three roommates in this little three
bedroom apartment, and he came over and he was Beyonce stylists,
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and from there he was like, I'm gonna put you
guys in the music video. There's actually a lot of
people in that video that are like big Now. It's
like us Sean Ross, the off was London and Roe
James is in that video. That's so amazing. Yeah, so
Laune is in the video, like we were all young
and he like grabbed all the young people before they
blew up dev Hines and put us all in that video.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Did you believe that when he was like, I'm gonna
put you guys in the beyond?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
No, we probably didn't get the answer. In the confirmation,
it was like a day before, we're sitting here being like,
don't bother him, but are we gonna go? And then
we ended up being in it and she was actually pregnant.
She wasn't. It wasn't announced that she was pregnant, but
I remember seeing her being like, mmm, so she has
a glow.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What is the balance of wanting to make something happen
when somebody tells you something, but not wanting to keep
on being like, what's good? Are we still doing this?
Because that's a balance a lot of people struggle with,
like the persistence but also wanting to make sure that
you're not being annoying.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think that sometimes it was meant for you will
always be for you. There's a lot of manifest that's
the yeah, check it out, And a lot of times
you have to understand, like with life, some people just
talk and you can't depend on other people to do
something for you. You have to do it for yourself.
So yeah, like if someone says they're gonna do something
for you, never wait on them, and that's something that
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we had to learn. Yeah, and also just like surrender,
So if it happens, it happens, but if it doesn't,
you just have to surrender and say, what's next.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
How have you both become? So I would say just
tapped in because we're in a world right now where
it's like, okay, what's next, what's next? And you know
you are DJ So being in a club environment also
can be difficult for people. But then at the same
time you are so connected and have managed to like
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bring forth this meditation that also is kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I think first of all, we didn't really grow up
with a lot of access at all, so we just
always grew up with nothing to lose, only everything that
any piece of success, even the challenges and the failures
were always a game for us, and I think ever
since we were younger, we used to tell our mom
and dad that like we knew that we had a
bigger purpose in our lives. It was bigger than starting
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a company. We didn't even know that we'll be doing
music at all. It was nine. I had no idea
would be touring the world like that wasn't a goal
of ours. But I think that what we're doing right
now is we're more purpose driven than money, fame and
material driven. And so I think us being in like
the club environments or like being in the industry, for us,
we feel like since we are walking our divine purpose,
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that's always like our or north star, and that's what
kind of keeps us grounded. Yeah, And we actually have
a friend named Natty who was like a spiritual guidance
for us. We met her in like two thousand and nine,
and she introduced us to yoga, She introduced us into
clean eating, She introduced us into like that sort of lifestyle.
And I will always stay thank you to her because
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we did not know anything about like yoga and eating
clean and taking ginger shots. And from that time on,
it's like lifestyle and it's more about breaking the generation
of curses. Because again, our dad grew up in the
South where he grew up during segregation, and my mom
grew up in a very strict Puerto Rican household, and
they raised us. They kind of unlearned the way they
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grew up, and they gave us the freedom, but we
had so much freedom that we also didn't want to
so obeyed them. So even though we looked like rosstars
as kids, we were such good, gooddy two shoes and
we always had our like our heads. I feel like
we didn't start cursing until we were like eighteen. Yeah,
we're such good, but we had like black lipstick, piercings,
mohawks and like middle school.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, that's how you don't judge a book by his color.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
How did your parents end up in Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They was doing some stuff that I don't even want
to talk about, but that's how they ended up in Minnesota.
That that'll be in our book one day, if.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We ever write a book or something that you really
feel like you want to do.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I do, because I feel like people have a perception
of how we grew up. I think a lot of
times people think they were coming from like an artsy
like family with money and know my dad was a
p before we before we were born, Like we grew
up going to players balls, like we saw a lot
of growing up. We went to a player's ball. And
also like our brother he was we have a brother.
We had a brother that he like passed away from
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gun violence. And so like we have the the typical American,
like Black America, we just have dinners and lunches because
uncle or somebody was about to turn themselves in. Like,
we just grew up seeing a lot And I think
a lot of times I do want to write a
books because people have a perception of who they think
we are, what our story is. But we also haven't
shared those parts of our stories. But I think it
is important for us to share that to show that
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where we came from, there's other people that came from
the same circumstances, and that there is a possibility to
get to you know, where we are.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And leaning into that creativity.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think too, because sometimes you feel like you have
to go along with what's happening around you, but you
really kind of rebelled against that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, we really did, even when people did not understand it.
We were like we're gonna still just do us. Like
I remember walking down the street in Indiana and him
Indiana and we were like super punk and our cousin
was like, oh, we're in war. I didn't know what
that meant at the time. So we're walking in one
of the most dangerous neighborhoods, like, oh, we're with cousins jeroon,
but we're over here looking like rock stars, trusting him
with our lives. And I realized, I'm like, we actually
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put ourselves in danger. But that was soon had no idea,
but us going to our family's place like that was
so normal to us. I didn't even realize that we
were in like a dangerous neighborhood. And we went there
every summer.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And you guys, you know what's nice that you had
each other? Yeah, you know, and that's such a blessing
to be able to have like your sister to lean on.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, for both of you were you.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Was there ever a time that there was any type
of light because sometimes that's hard to be family but
also working together NonStop.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
No, don't. I don't think it was ever hard. I
think the most challenging part was being twins and finding
our own identities. And so we were like.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We used to be stuck to the hip, yeah, because
it's always Coco and Breezy, Coco and Breeze exactly. Now
it's Coco and Breezy, you know, like like I know
my stuff, I know what I like, Breezey knows what
she likes when she doesn't like.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Before it was like what do we like? And so
I never I didn't get a chance to like really
understand like who I was. And a few years ago
we went on a journey. It was about four years ago.
We went to Costa Rica and we like stayed off
the grid and spent a couple weeks there and had
no hot water, no ac We were just in the
middle of the jungle and we just had no phone
service or Wi Fi and we just like spent a
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lot of times. I was like, I need to get
to know myself without like depending on Breezy, and Breezey
needed to get to know herself as well, and so
that was super helpful. And then from there we started
to really like lean into our own identities and it's
actually helped us with our work as well.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And I know when you went to Costa Rica, your
father had also passed recently and that was a journey
as well. How did that affect you?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Our dad was our best friend. But I think that
before he passed away, had this fear of death, Like
I was just so scared of a family member dying
or even me thinking of that. But now understanding the
cycle of life, my dad shows up and visits me
in my dreams now nice and it makes me like
see that there's something bigger than what we're living right now.
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But it definitely affected us a lot, and just being
in Costa Rica in general. That's where we wrote and
got the ideas for our current EP, Free was during
that trip in him passing.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And I remember, like you said, you had never thought
you would be on this journey to do music and
even hearing your voices. I remember previously you had said
that it was not something that you were even comfortable with. Yeah,
recording your voice and yep, hearing it on the track.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, how do you get over that?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think the way we got over it if you
hear that all the songs that we're speaking on our tracks,
what we do, what we're doing right now, we literally
just go into a studio and we just have conversations
like this with each other and then we just pull
the vocals and we like make the songs and so
that's like it is. It makes it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It also sounds soothing the conversations.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That you're yeah, so that's what makes it easy. There
was a point though, when we first started, I didn't
like we were in the headphones and hearing my voice. I
would be like, let me just talk, yeah, And now
I can listen. I'm used to it now, but in
the beginning it was challenging because it's weird to hear
your own voice.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now, let's flash back to the eyewear because first of all,
just the way that that has really evolved from when
you guys first started. So when you first started making
the glasses, it feels like I'm a pull mine out
for this and get and take a picture of it
and post with this. But just thinking about how when
you guys first started and didn't have the investment or
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anything yet, what's the difference like when you first started
and where.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You are now.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
What was it like in the early stages of creating
and selling eyewear.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So I can say we're still self funded. We've never
took on investors in the beginning, It was definitely very,
very challenging, but I think that what we had to
do was we first started off with handcrafted glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yes they were all handmade.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And then we educated ourselves on how to actually design
and produce real eyewear. And so our business partner, Dwayne,
who's also our co founder, here the architecture background, so
he was able to create cads. So between him and I,
we were designing all the glasses from scratch. And I
remember the first collection we made. We used our last
bit of money and it was only like three samples,
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and I remember sleeping with the samples because I was
like so excited it. And I remember our first full production.
Since we weren't it was our first production, we weren't
as educated on the design process. All of them came
back damage and I remember how to go on food
stamps for like a week. Wow, it was like a
month I had to go on because we used all
of our money in this big order that we got canceled.
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And so we're like, okay, we use that as an
opportunity to be like, let's go back to the drawing board.
Let's figure out where are we, Where are our high priorities,
where are our money making priorities and like with our
long term goals, and once we actually sat back and
created new goals, the next month we ended up like
making like ten thousand cells it's like maybe like ten
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years ago. And from there we continued to grow our
business and we really focused at the time on direct
to consumer. Recently, we actually just made a switch. Yeah,
we just signed a licening deal with Europa, which is
like one of the biggest independent I wear distributors, and
so right now our glasses are in like seven hundred
store locations.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay, we got to give it up for that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Article came across my timeline too when you guys ink
that deal, because that's groundbreaking.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yea, thank you so much, thank you. Yeah, and we
should double in the next year. But we're excited for
that because now we can really focus on our music
and then with the partnership with Europa, they'll help us
scale even faster while we put more time in music
because the music. Last year we were burnt out, like
the way we were running the company and then like
DJ until two am and then having like an eight
am all hands meeting.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It was a lot and sometimes you think to yourself,
I prayed for this, Yeah, and I pray for these blessings.
But then you also have to pay attention to when
it's time to You can't function the way that you
need to and give things the attention that it needs.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If you're burnt out.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Exactly. Yeah, so I'm excited now.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm excited for you because the glasses are like even
just seeing y'all in, I'm now you also created that
third eyeglass that Prince wore on SNLP and I Prince
is my favorite artist of all time, so you know,
I need to get the print story directly from you
and for everybody listening who may not know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
So Prince was a really good friend of ours, and
the way we met him is someone from his team
reached out to us on Facebook and was like, hey,
Prince wants to meet you. We ignored the message because
you know, every rapper calls themselves like Prince something. I
didn't think it was like Prince Prince, you know. And
then like a few months later, our friend hits us
up and she was like, Prince has been trying to
get in touch with you guys. So we finally like
called a number and they were like, hey, Prince wants
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you guys to perform with him. We used to be dancers.
I guess he saw a YouTube video from like ten
years before that it was dancing, and he was like,
Prince wants to fly you guys to New Orleans for
the Essence Festival, so you guys can perform with one
of his artists. Wow, they didn't say with Prince. And
so then he was like, bring your glasses because he
wants all the dancers to wear your glasses. We fly
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to New Orleans, we're at dance rehearsal and they're like,
he wants you guys to perform with him while he
performs Bras Baby Beret and we were like what. I
was like, we haven't danced in years, and so we
get to rehearsal and I would never forget. He like
walks into the rehearsal room and all the dancers were
like they all went to the back. Me and Breeze
were like, we're his special guests. We're just gonna like
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chill here. And he comes up to us and he
was like, Cocor and Breezy, you're gonna make me famous.
And I was like, what are you talking about, Prince,
You're gonna make us famous, you know. And from there
he said he told all the dancers, I only want
Cocor and Breezy to dance with me during this song.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And I was like, what that is wild?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
You know. The crazy part is that the video he
saw was doing choreography from ten years ago. He's like,
I want you guys to do that choreography. What I'm like, this.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Is crazy to even see that.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I don't know how. I don't know how he found it,
but I think he was like he would lurk he
found everything.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, it was like a Minnesota connection or.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Something something I don't know. And fast forward, Breezy was like, Prince,
the glasses you're wearing are whack. You need some of
the eyeglasses. And I was scared. I was like Brete
really and at that time he wanted to meet. We
were really close. So every time we got so spoiled.
Every time on the news if I saw he was
in New York, I would just be waiting for a
text message that he's gonna send a car to pick
us up.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
At that time we lived in Bushwack. Cane was and
he would always I think that was our first time
like riding a black car and having a drivers because
the Prince and he would rent out these restaurants and
have dinners at like four o'clock in the morning. He
went to meet our family, so I brought my mom
to Paisley Parks. He let us have a party there.
And then finally we made the third eye glasses. He
was like, I need glasses to cover my third eye
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and we were like, okay. So we made them, and
it was crazy because it took us a while for
us to develop them, and literally the sample came the
day of SNL, so we hurry up and got them
to him, and he invited us to the show, but
we didn't know if he was gonna wear them, and
so I remember he started his performance with his back turned,
but then when he turned around he had the glasses on.
We started bawling. They're like, our lives are going to change. Yeah,
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everyone knew though. It's like it's like Michael Jackson wearing
like his white socks and black shoes. The third Eye
glasses are iconic now and so then it was crazy
because we were going to do an actual collaboration. So
we were talking to his lawyers about doing like a
Prince times Cocra and Breezy collaboration and cell to hundred
frames for its fans. And I remember after S and
L we were all at dinner and he was like,
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CoCom Breezy, stop talking to my lawyers. I just want
you guys to sell the glasses. I don't need anything.
Buy a house and just save me a room in
the house that you buy.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Because he's so big on ownership.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, so we own one hundred percent of the rights
to those glasses.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Wow. Yeah, I do have to write a book.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I just want to say, even sitting here having these conversations,
you know some of the biggest artists like to have
ever graced this planet. Beyonce Prince, you've had your glasses
worn by Ashanti.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, right, so you know we are like twenty three
at the time.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Imagine that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It's just imagine all the things that have happened to you.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's like, like you said, the universe just kind of
you got to pay attention and follow.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, and I'm happy you say that because in the
beginning of the year, I had a little bit of uncertainty.
I always have this uncertainty. In the beginning of the year,
just because it always feels like it's a new chapter.
Like the more successful you become, the harder it is
to become more successful. And something that I learned was
the reason why I had uncertainty is because when you
get to a certain height of success and you know
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where you started, like looking down the fall fills so long,
and in my head, I'm like, dang, I never want
to go back down to where I started. But then
I think about it, I'm like, no, I've done so
much over the years. And the way that the cycle
works in our lives is like it's a roller coaster.
Whenever there's a challenge, the next step is going to
be higher than the last step and then go back
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down to the challenge. It's almost scary to go too
high because one thing I can say, our success was
never like we never had a fast, rapid success. It's
always been a slow study success because we've always kept
their integrity of like Cocor and Breezy and like who
we are. Every decision we've made, we've said noted deals
because it didn't align with our lives the things that
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we believe in. And even with Prince before we made
the glasses, he actually asked us to be his creative directors,
and at that time we were like, Okay, we're in
the beginning of our IRA company. If we say yes
to him, we're gonna be working for him, and our
IRA company is going to it's gonna take a back seat.
And I had friends that were working for him that
we're either like working for him as music or doing
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like some type of other work, and they only worked for.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Him, right because that's a huge h job and responsibility.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And at that time, we're like, dang, we need the money.
The money would have been great because we weren't financially
like stable. But we're like, but we have our own goals,
so we're gonna say no. And somebody was like, if
you say no to him, he might not mess with
the guys anymore. I was like, well, we have a goal.
So if if you want to do glasses with us
or do that, but we can't say yes to that's
a high great direction. It was hard. We cried. We
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cried because we need the money here right now, Like, bye, guys,
parents wants me to go work for him.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
When did you fail financially stable, I.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Would say probably like maybe like five years ago. Yeah,
I would say like five years ago. Wowe see.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
People also think that success happens quickly. They might have
seen you more recently and been like, oh yeah, they're
killing it. They just came out of nowhere. But to
understand the whole backstory of what it took. That's why
you got to write that book, I'm telling you. And
you're still self funded. Is there a part of you
that wants to get funding or do you want to continue?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So we actually I mean I think right now with
us making tell this story about going to America, Yeah,
but making the decision to do the licensing deal with Europa.
It's not an investor, but it is like another business partnership.
So that's like our kind of idea of like what
we're doing for the next steps to girl the company
without giving out giving an equity equity. Yeah, but it
is going to help us like scale the company. They're
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they're they're like their business operations are so large. So
we're really excited about that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Right, And it's nice to not have other people to
answer to. Yeah, they're going to want to make decisions
and it just makes it so much easier, is it.
Now a lot of people are also building companies because
at some point they want to sell them.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, which is smart. Smart, It's a strategy, Okay, and
I think that I think that's not a bad thing.
That was actually a goal of ours, yeah, for a
while time before he got into music. But the thing
is that now that we're doing music, we don't have
like the bandwidth to oversee that. And our music started
growing so much. So that's why we chose this other route.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Now when the music started, talk to me about that transition.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, So we started, you know, we started djaying like
ten years ago, but we were just doing local stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Around I remember when you guys started DJing.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Too, Yay. We were just doing like local New York things.
But then once the pandemic hit, we started making music.
We have our manager, Johnny. We've been with him for
like almost eight years, almost nine years maybe, and I
remember him always being like, I'm setting you guys up
to be like big DJs at play in festivals and
like in a visa, and he'd say all these things.
I'm like, this sounds so untouchable. Like he would be like,
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we have to like in five years, you guys are
gonna play a visa. You're gonna do this, do that,
and I'm like, how So then there are certain things
that we said no to playing in the city because
he was like, y'all are gonna do something else. And
so in twenty twenty, that's when we released our first song.
And then during the whole pandemic, we just started releasing music.
Music was getting like really good feedback on like the
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electronic world, and.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Was that Differences that was okay.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Differences was like the first first time. Oh my gosh,
I don't know what before I don't count I don't
know why I don't count that song. I should count it.
You should count fine. Differences was like twenty eighteen. Yeah,
but then our real when we started to find our sound,
it was like twenty twenty okay, and then fast forward
after that, like we got agents, Like right when when
the Outside opened, we got agents, and like I think
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Outside opened like twenty twenty two or something or twenty
twenty one, and we went from just doing like local
shows in New York and right when like Outside opened
and we got our agents. We did one hundred shows
that year or ninety shows that year. Wow, Like around
the whole like North America, they had us opening for everybody.
And now recently, like we've been touring globally like pretty
much every country.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah yeah, Now you guys are spending a summer and Avisa.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah so we spent last summer. We had a residency
and Aviza. We'll be back. We'll be back a few,
like three or four times this summer.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Can you believe that this is all happening?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No? Every day, every day I'm still like, are we
really doing this? Like the other day, tell you we're
such nerds, y'all. Every time we do something lit, we're like,
we're really doing it. We're like, we're doing we never
get used to it. Like the other day we played
in Mexico at the festival and it was like all
the fire we had Piro and we were like on stage,
we were like, I'm like, we're just so hype. We
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never get used to it because again, we had no
idea what'd be doing. We knew that again, we knew
we're gonna be doing something with a purpose, but we
didn't know what the medium of it was going to be.
But we're like, we're like doing all the festivals. We
did Coachella last.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Year, y'all did Coachella, like that's such a big deal.
And being Afro Latina women, I want to ask you
what is it like as far as in that world,
because I know it can be very male dominated. So
how has that journey been for you? Is it something
that hasn't affected you or do you feel like there's
been obstacles because of that?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I mean, I can talk about the DM that we
got yesterday. Yeah, so yesterday I killed somebody with kindness.
This guy I DMed us speaking No, he didn't dm us.
I DMed him because he wrote a comment being like, oh,
I went to this party and I saw your friend Brendan.
He was mixing for you guys the whole time, and
I was like, I've never in my life had anyone
mixed for us, even when we were bad in the beginning,
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I was possing pants in the beginning, I still never
had anyone mix for us. So I knew there was
a misunderstanding, and so I DMed him. I was like, hey,
I usually don't respond to people like that, but since
I genuinely knew it was a misunderstanding, I want to
have a conversation with him. So I was just like, hey,
I think there's a misunderstanding. Can you tell me which
show you saw swing mixing for us? And I think
because we were women and we were supporting our friend,
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Like we were like, our friend was performing at this
like after party in Denver and we were next to
him just being having fun, having fun. So he assumed
that it was our show and that this our friend
who show it was was djaying for us, and so
I ended up killing him with kindness. I was like,
I think there's a misunderstanding, and he was like, no,
I swear you had your your friend djying for you
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guys like da da da da, And I was just like,
you know what, I know what shuit you're talking about.
That wasn't our show. We were literally supporting our friend,
probably dancing with him because again, like we I think
that was our first time actually seeing him DJ. So
we were just having a good time. And then we
got to a point where I'm at the point in
my life now where I'm like, how can I be
at peace even when someone's trying to disrupt my piece?
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He's still going so hard, And I was like, how
about this, how about next time we come to Denver,
add you to our list and you can stand behind
the DJ decks with us the whole time. No, let
me tell you and then I'll tell you. And then
he was like, okay, deal, but you still had someone
mixing for you.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
And I told him, I said, you know, it's bad
karma to like to be mean to someone. We don't
have the facts, and I'm like, we're not there where
the wrong was for you to be mean too, because
you never know, you never know. And then Coco sent
him some videos of some brother. He was like, here's
some vibes for you to and then you know what.
He said this, but let me tell you. Let me
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tell you. I think it was my divine purpose because
he told me, he said, you know what. Thank you
so much. Because he said that, he was like, no
one's ever called me out, and I walk around with
this like this mentality that I have to be like
a bad man to a bad man DJ and judge everybody.
So he was like, thank you for putting me in check.
And I apologize. He said, I'm emotionally thinking about this
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all day now. And he was just like, I'm going
to change.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm not to respond to my haters.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
We don't resign to everyone. Yeah, but our intuition.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, yeah, something made you say.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Something told me because I like literally was something in
my intuition was like, no, just just talk to him,
and I did, and it came out with him apologizing him.
He said he's rethinking his whole life, wow, and his
identity of like being judgmental. But that's how you stop
your blessings. Though people don't realize when you spend the
time and the emotions to hate on somebody else or
compare yourself to someone, you literally stop your blessings.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I always have felt like when that happens online and
people are the ones that are always like leaving that,
I always feel like that's the issue they.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Have in themselves.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, like carrying that type of like hate and just
vitriol towards people. I always feel like that's worse than
being the person that they're harassing.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, you know, so I agree with you. That is
so amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I had time.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, you definitely had time something like Because also I
think sometimes people do that because they want a response.
I always look at it like, well, I don't want
to reward this person with a response that's harassing me.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
But but it was also a different type of thought
It was a test for me too, because I think
maybe me a couple of years ago, would we respond
differently in like a mo vibrational way. But I need
to also test out. I need to test out, like
the knew me of like how do I keep my
peace when someone's trying to disrupt that?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
No, and listen in the midst of all this, he
can go and listen to the EP exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
They help him out.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Sound healing. Do y'all do sound healing?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah? Yeah, Actually in our current tour, we have like
we did a few shows. We did La where we
had an early portion that was a meet and greet
and it was the same day as show. It was
like fifty people there, Breezy did, I did sound healing,
Breezy did a guided meditation, and then we played our
EP for the fans, and then we did a meet
and greet and a Q and A. So that's like
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a new concept with this. Yeah, And that night was
the actual show and we sold that, which was amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I feel like this is the type of thing that
does like change people's whole lives and perspectives.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I love too, Like I said, it's not your usual
meditative album.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You know, you could be.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
In a car and it can help you be in
like a little bit of a trance.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Kind of way. You know why we did that. I
think that the life that we live in right now.
But there's a lot of spaces that tap into the
spiritual space that feel like a cult, right, And I
don't like that it does or it doesn't feel diverse.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Sometimes when I'm doing like certain places and they'll have
us doing like meditation, I want to laugh because it
feels real. Yeah, I don't know, and then I feel inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, And so for us, we wanted our music to
be for every already where, Like even if they don't
know what the word mantra means, or if they don't
know what meditation means, they could just be singing the
words to their lyrics and they don't even know why
they feel so good. So they don't have to know
all their lingo like mantra, meditation and grounding, Like, they
don't need to know all those words to like our music.
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They can listen to it and fill the vibes and like,
and they can they'll be manifesting without knowing that they're manifesting.
They may not even know what that word means, but
they're singing the words to our manifest song.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It helps you understand exactly what it means to manifest. Yeah, man, well,
y'all manifested this lot of you as a single that's
out also.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Right now, what do you where do you see all
this going?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Like if you had to, because like you said, a
lot of this was unexpected. So now that you're manifesting,
what is it that you see for Coco and Breezy.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I mean, with us doing the free like our for
your Soul concept, I see us having our own festival
one day called for your Soul, but the start would
be us having stages at different festivals where we like
curate for your Soul, curate their wellness practices, and then
from there eventually have like our own fore your Soul
like festival.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
That's the goals festival.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And like residency and a visa.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And a retreat, yes exactly and when and it's so
different and so you it's very I feel organic than
thank you you.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I think for me, I've always had a fear. I'm like,
I never want to become successful being somebody that isn't
really who I am, because anybody they people know the
blueprint to create a hit. But I see a lot
of friends and peers who become successful, make all this money,
creating a song that actually isn't true to them, and
then gain the wrong fans. Okay, And for us, we're like,
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even if our success is a slow, steady one, I
want to make sure I'm always like true to myself,
so then it doesn't even feel like work. We're just
literally like even with our with our free EP, it's
some things that we would say to ourselves and now
we're sharing it with other people or earlier wellness events.
It's that's actually our pre show ritual, but now we
get to share that with our fans.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
What type of things and seeing all the success that
you have, when you say that your father, you still
speak with him like what does he say?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
So our dad? Like he visited me in my dreams.
It was one time where I was sleeping and he
gave me the biggest hug, and it felt like a
hug that it felt like it was real life. It
felt so warm, and he said something funny to me,
and I woke up laughing. And I woke up laughing
because I'm like, oh my gosh, I feel him. And
before every show, and I don't care if people think
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I'm crazy, I talk out loud to him. I do.
Before every show. We always have a conversation with him
and just our ancestors, and I always ask them to
allow us to be vessels, to guide us, to give
the people who are ever in the crowd, give them
exactly what they need and they want. So a lot
of times we may not even know what we're going
to play. I feel like we're just like channeling and giving.
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We're just like giving whatever whoever is in the room
that day. I pray and be like, Okay, allow whoever
supposed to be here will be here, whether if it's
like ten people or if it's thousands of people. So
that way I can if I'm playing for ten thousands
of people or if I'm playing for twenty people, it's
going to be the same energy because whoever supposed to
be there will be there.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
No absolutely, what about you, Coco.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Something that's really interesting is that, for some reason, I
always see twelve, Like whenever it's twelve thirty four on
the clock, I always see it. And he transitioned on
April third, of twenty twenty one, so when you flip
the numbers, it's one, two, three four, And literally, like
at midnight and in the afternoon, when I see like
twelve thirty four, I'm like, oh, it's up, pops. Thank
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you Angel. You know, I feel like he's my guardian angel.
So that's like something that I've like created for myself
just to have like a memory of him. And can
I say one thing too, So just like a backstory.
I feel like after he passed away, that's that was
like a milestone to women became more financially free and
all the abundance started to come. Like he he's like
because before him, we've been financially supporting our dad from
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like fifteen years old up until he passed away when
we were in our thirties. And sometimes I think about
I'm like, I don't even know how we did it
right for him. When he was alive, he felt like
it was a burden, but it was never a burden
for us. It taught us to be hard workers, and
it taught us to actually like how to support our family,
and it really pushed us to actually again we had
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nothing to lose. We only had everything to gain because
we had to grow up at such a very young age.
So after he transitioned, I think all the blessings that
he just like, I don't know, he just gave us
a miracle to this new purpose that we have right now.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He would like investing into your future blessing. Yeah during
that time. Yeah, well, I cannot wait to read this book.
It feels like there's so much more to this. I'm
gonna let y'all save it for when this book is
gonna come out, because I'm gonna tell you right now,
I would definitely pick that up like today. But thank
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you so much again. I'm so proud and happy to
see your success. Every time I see yuall somewhere, I'm like,
there goes. And by the way, I never see you
guys without each other.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
You know, it's crazy. We actually live separately now.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah it's necessary, Yeah, I guess, But when you go out,
I feel like i've seen you two together.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I don't even know. If I were, I think I
would know.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's just so you're so used to seeing Coco and Breezy,
Like if I see one of you individually, I'd be like,
oh shoot, like I can't.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Sometimes people don't know it's me. If I'm not with Breezy,
I'm right cool, I'll be locky. No one hasn't come
up to me then.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
But thank you so much for coming through. Like I said,
this is a full circle moment. You were there when
we launched the Breakfast Club and I appreciate that. And
every time I see you somewhere a shining or see
you an article or whatever about you, I'm always just
so happy because you deserve it so much.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Thank you, all right, Thank you so.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
And where can people find the glasses if they're looking
right now? The Cocoa and Breezy shades, Yeah, you can just.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Go on Coco and Breezy dot com and it has
all the store locations that we're in, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And the EP free is out right now, yes, so
stream that and I my stay it's way up