April 27, 2026 • 36 mins
Plant Kween Breaks Down Plant Care: Easy Plants, Mistakes, Anxiety Relief & More 🌿 + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up his way up with Angela Yee and I
have plant Queen here aka Christopher Griffin. Thank you so
much for joining me today.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you for having me that your pleasure.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is important for me.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Because just looking at your page and everything that you've done,
you have over two hundred plants in your space in Brooklyn.
I do, and this is a journey that you've been
on for how long now about it's over?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I mean I've been a plant queen for all of
my life, but my first plan I got in like.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, so.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
It's been a little over a decade that I've been
bringing plants into my space.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Plants bring me so much joy.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
One of the first things that I wanted when I
moved when I have more space, was to finally have
some plants because I also know the benefits that they provide,
you know, in the air for quality of air. And
for anybody listening that is like trying to figure out
because it's such a journey. I just remember like googling
what plants can live because it was a rough winter here.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, and some of mine, if.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I live in New York long enough, they understand that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, so I just what was your first plant?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
My first plant was a marble Queen pothos and I
still have that plant.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah she's still kicking, she's still alive. Hold it down.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But okay, just because I know for a lot of us,
and me in particular, I'm like, how do I keep
these plants alive?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's one thing. They look so good when you buy them.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When you bring up honey.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So if you're talking to somebody like me, right, and
I'm just picking your brain for advice, that's why listen,
you're helping me. Okay, if you have to say, okay,
I live in a place where it's not always warm, right,
and the plants are indoors, it's not always sunlight, and
everything's not going to be in the window. What are
some good plants that are going to live but if
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we take care of them, but also are good for us,
Like in the home.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I there's three plants that I recommend, and so low maintenance.
I'm sorry, low maintenance on low maintenance, low maintenance. We
love low maintenance. It's a good starter. So these are
three starter plants. So the pothos is a very miny, resilient, plant.
It's actually considered invasive species in some countries.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay, so that's how good she grows?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, Okay, I think I have that.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, so, I mean a lot of people have it
and like it's a wonderful plant.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Then the easy plant, I.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Have that too, come on part Okay, you got the look.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And then the snake plant.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, the snake place I feel like have been the
easiest for me. The snake plant.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Hello, snake plants are they thrive with a little neglect.
And so I encourage folk to start with those three plants,
these snake plant and pothos, those are like good beginners.
But I encourage folk to kind of do like a
self reflection of like what kind of care do you
enjoy giving?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Are you a queen on the go and you're like, girl,
I just need something that need a little drop water
and then like we'll figure it out. Or are you
like an over water where you may need like an
orchid or an African violet that requires like a little
bit more attention. But I encourage folk to kind of
do that like internal reflection. I mean I think it's
good for life.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean even for you know, it's been
devastating for me because some of my plants have just
not made it through their first year on this.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Planet, and I honestly feel terrible.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And sometimes it feels out of control when you see
the leaves turning brown, you know, and you're like, how
can I revive this plant?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And so I actually will I have one of those apps?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What app you got? What you got? Girl?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I want to know what you think about that?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Because they have these apps and you can take like
a picture of your plant.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Who child, somebody, well, somebody apps are.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm so mad at myself for doing this because it
did not help.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Somebody's apps are helpful, but some of them. I'm like, girl,
that's not even the same plant.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Baby, I will show you what I have, But you
know what, would you advise though, because sometimes it's hard
to keep track, right, Like you're trying to keep track
of this is the one I have?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Wait, I don't know this one?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh yeah, I got that one too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And so I tried to do this thinking like cause
I you know, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do
all the right things. I want my plants to live,
I want them to thrive. I want to be able
to breathe in the air. And my plants look so
different now than they did when I first got them.
I have this fiddle leaf big plant, and when I
tell you that plant is there's one leaf left, and
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I'm like one leaf.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And it was.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
They're so beautiful when you get them, but then it's
just such a difficult thing to maintain.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It is sometimes, and I think we have to give
ourselves grace when we're bringing plants into our homes. I mean,
we're basically bringing the living wile features into caves with
windows right our homes, Like the average person does not
have a nursery, right, Like, they are coming from these
very pristine, perfect conditions settings and then we're bringing them
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into a very different environment.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So I think we have to give ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Grace when we're bringing plants into our homes and understanding
that how they grow in nurseries will not be how
they grow in our home, right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They looking said they do by yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But I think we, uh, if we allow ourselves an
opportunity to kind of just sit and see and observe,
then there's no such thing as a green thumb. Like
I don't believe in a green thumb. I believe in
a green muscle, something you build over time with. Like
any skill, right, you have to practice and a part
of that practice is plants dying. You know that little
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botanical garden in the sky.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I got a lot of plants for your mental health?
What does having plants.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Do for you?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm a person that navigates anxiety. I have been navigating
anxiety since I was a little kid. My mom also
navigated anxiety, but as black folks, we're worried wars, like
worry wors, we didn't name it as anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Later in therapy, I was like, girl every anxiety.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And so for me, bringing plants into my home is
a has created a system of accountability that allows me
to experience flow and be in my body and get
out of my head and all the stories my anxiety
tells me in my head, and how exhausting it can
be to follow all those different stories, and so watering
my plants has allowed me to kind of just be centered,
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be in my space, and be grounded in my body
and not be floating off into these worlds my anxiety
is creating for me. So that's what my plants have done.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
For me.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, I and sometimes, like you know, you talk to
your plants, you like, come on, baby, like I do.
I'm like grom a baby, you have a white little chappohar, Yes,
come on?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Then you know what they try to.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So I almost bought one of those venus fly traps,
you know those, you know what I'm talking about. They
have They actually have a plant that will trap like
bugs and.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's so many.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Then I felt like, I don't know if I want that,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I mean, those are really tricky to care for. They
need certain conditions and if you really want it to thrive,
it has to eat insects.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It kind of feels like rude in a way.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know if I want like dead bugs inside
of a plant in my it feels kind of mean
because then they're also alive for a little while.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
The venus fly trap, you have to they's the mechanism
where you have it has to be the fine hairs
on the leaf have to be brushed a certain amount
of time within a particular time frame, and for it
in order for it to close, and then the digestive juices.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's do you have one of those?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I have one, and I was curious. I'm just a nerd,
and I'm like, you wanted to see what that was?
And so I did have one, but she didn't survive
with me because she was like, girl, ain't no insects in.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Here, like one of my baby, I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's a positive thing and another thing you have to
be aware of. And when I was buying plants, I
realized this is that there are certain plants if the
leaves fall and you have pets, it could be poisonous.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Oh yes, yes, the peace lily is a very common
plant that's extremely poisonous. You know, a lot of the
tropical plants that we bring into our homes are actually toxic,
not to the point where you know it will lead
to death, but definitely a strong timmy ache, vomiting things.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Of that nature headache. But yeah, a lot of the
plants that we bring into our homes are toxic.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So how do we navigate that, especially if we have pets.
Are there certain plants that we should stay away from?
Or like, how does that work if you want to
have plantants but also have little furry creatures?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, so most plant shop I think, out of liability
will label like pet safe and not pet safe, And
so I think, like, what are their particular palms that
are safe for plants. I think peppermias are safe for plants.
There are a variety that work well with little furry
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creatures running around. But however, I do have friends who
have cats who have toxic plants, and there are way
to just train the animal not to so, like I
think with cats, they don't enjoy fitrthy things. I don't
have a cat, but if you rim the pot with
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like a lemon or something, go to it. So there's
like little natural ways to deter pets from messing with
your plants.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Man, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So I also I want to talk to you about
how you've made this into such a business for yourself
and collaborating with hotels, being an author. What are some
things because this is something you were passionate about, did
you ever think this would be something you could monetize?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I don't know, well, no, I never thought when I
you know, when I started this, this was just like
a passion, a hobby.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's still much, you know, very much a passion.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But yeah, like I just want to I bought some plants.
I want to share with people. As an educator, I
enjoy sharing anything that I learned. I like sharing with folks.
So it's just like a very natural process for me.
But then there came a point where there was this.
It was a random company that wanted to use my
apartment for an ad and they wanted me to feature
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in it and talk in front of the camera. And
so like my professional background, I got my master's in
high education student and fears the administration, and so I'm used to,
you know, doing events and being the host and all
that jazz, so very much used to being in front
of people and delivering a methage or anything like that.
And they paid me a month salary for I think
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a few hours of shooting.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh. I was like, oh baby, you.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Were like listen, I said, really smart, I gotta I
gotta put the more attention into it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
So I put more attention into it and you know,
more energy. And it grew into this lovely community of
people that I get to connect with every single day,
grew into lovely collaborations with institutions I care about the
Brooklyn Botannic Garden. Yes, I'm NYBG City Harvest the New
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York Restoration Project. Like all organizations that I truly love
and support their mission, I get to work with them
on raising awareness around the work that they're doing, so
very very lovely in that way. But then also I
get to work with fun brands And I went on
a brand trip with Natural Geographic to Tanzania.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh my god, I see you traveling all the time?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Fab You ever go on solo trips?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh? Baby, That's the only way to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Really, I can't break that down.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, like, I get to go where I want
to go. I don't have to answer to anyone. If
I'm like, girl, I just want to lay in my
hotel bed the entire day.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
If I'm like I want to go on a height,
then I want to go diving. Then I want to
go eat dinner like I love. But I think it's
important for me, especially as a black, queer, non binary person,
that I uh enjoy the intimacy of my solitude right,
and that I understand that I can be the manifestor
of my own joy.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't have to rely on others to make myself happy.
I'm a good time by.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Myself, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And so, and while simultaneously I understand that community care
and community support is as equally important. There are days
when I can't water myself and I have to rely
on my network in my community of family. We love
ones and friends to care for me, but I want
to have the option right and traveling solo it just
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clicks something for me in a way where it gets
It helped me practice this in real time right, Like
I can't rely or I just can't like meet up
with a friend while I'm there. I really have to
figure out, like how can I enjoy myself with myself
and sit with my thoughts. Man, It's a beautiful, a
beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm gonna try that one day.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm telling you it will.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I always say that the world. If I was going to.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Travel, baby, we would be the first place you would say,
go alone.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh my goodness, I'm like, well, out of on the map?
Are you a beach person?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Okay, then anguilla, I wait, where did you say?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I stayed on a couple of different places. Is first
it was the Viceroy, but now it's the fourth season.
So I stayed there, I had dinner there, and then
I stayed at this golf resort that's out there, that's
am I forgeting the name of it, but I stayed
at a golf resort when I was it that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No cap Julica, baby, or it's expensive as hell. But
if you go on like the off season.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, or if I tell them I know you, yes.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Hopefully to give you this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
That Anguilla was. So I think for people who are
just trying it out, I think it's helpful if you
know the place already, right, because then you can kind
of fall, you know, into some of those things you
did before. So it's just not like a blank slate.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But yeah, okay, that's a good suggestion. I love Anguilla.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, Anguilla is. And then cap Julica the Bellmont Hotel.
I think Oprah enjoys the one in Saint Martin, and.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So I love saying I got to say a couple
of times a year I like it.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And I was like, and you know, I don't party
when I when I travel. It's like a part of
my anxiety. I don't necessarily always feel safe in like
night life by myself. And so cap Ulica and Guilla
it's just like, girl, you got the beach.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, no, the beach is amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And I want to say this though, what I like
is also like a lounge more than a club. Like
I enjoyed, like some good music, to sit on a cow,
to have a drink. Yeah, exactly, you get it. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I you know, I was a party and girl back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You would may not notice about me, but yes, I
was a party no way.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
When you were in New Yorker and Philly. When I
was in Philly, baby, Okay, Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Born to Ray and baby, I was on those playgrounds Okay, yeah, child,
Yeah it was. I don't know, I just had a
lot of energy. And I mean growing up in Philly,
going to college in Philly, I had an upper hand
because I just I just.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Knew you were comfortable, you were familiar.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah yeah, and I had community and so I was
able to really end I have. You know, my family
was there. So but yeah, baby, I was partying Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So you parted out a day you parted out, I
partied out there. Yeah, I feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now I want to get back to overwatering because you
talked about that, and so sometimes I feel like that
has been an issue for me because automatically we think
if there's an issue with the plant, it's because in
these water and sometimes we do tend to be like
giving it too much water.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes, how do you know when you've overwatered a plant?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Child?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
There's a lot of signs, but sometimes it looks the
same as other issues, whether that's like a deficiency in
nutrients or not enough sunlight. And so for watering, the
trick is always to check out the soil before.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You water it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Okay, right, your finger in or.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
So you know, if you got your nails done, you're
like a girl, Yes you know it this expensive man.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There are soil probes that you can stick in.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You turn it and it like takes out soil from
different parts of the pot and you can feel that, right,
And so I think it's always one important to check
the soil. Also just be in a routine like what
I know folks like, yeah, what are my plant every day?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What when you're not supposed to them?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And then too does it rain every day? Like girl?
Like you got to think of like girl.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But then also it's like understanding the plants that you're
bringing into your home. So like folks are like, I'm
going to have to plant care tips, I say, you
go a step further, and what is the natural habitat
this plant comes from? Get the nerd and me the
educator in me, right, and so yes, sometimes it looks
like soggy soil. Sometimes it looks like riding roots or
mold on the top soil.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
And if that happened, you kind of have to take
the plant out and read.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, how you got So sometimes it gets to the
point where the root system is so damaged. Because as
much as our plants need water, they need air right,
and so sometimes the root system is so damaged that
is you can't save it. So what you could do
is propagate it right and take a snipping of the
plant and then regrow it. I've done that with multiple plants, Okay,
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multiple plants, and it works.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Shesh. How can you all? Right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So, what are some ways you can revive a plant?
I told you my fiddle leaf fig has one leaf left.
It was so beautiful when I got it, and it
has been I've moved it to different places in the
house to see if it can like thrive better hair.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Hair hair, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
So fiddlely figs, it's like, girl, leave me alone, like,
let me figure this out. Fiddlely figs are notoriously known
to just like just put them in one spot and
just see how they grow. I think often when we're
bringing plants from nurseries into our home home, we're expecting
them to look how they are in the nursery.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
However, if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
When we as humans and people go into new environment,
there's usually some type there's some parts of myself that
we have to shed or let go of, right to grow.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
In new ways. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And so when we think of the leaves on plants
and they have grown in those particular environments, they're not
used to the conditions that we're bringing them into. So
they're going to shed those leaves so that they can
produce new leaves that are equipped to work with.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The environment they're in now, okay, right.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And so.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I think when we see a leave dropping like oh
that that that means it's not working area.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's like it's like, no, girl, I just gotta let
this go so I can like focus on some new
grown leaf.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Left. Well I'm kidding, but thank you for being kind, but.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
No, So what you could do is try to propagate it.
And so what you could do is like snip the
stem and put it in water, maybe put some growth
hormone on the end of the stem and try to
propagate it there. Or you know, you can also you
can get a new one.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think I'm gonna have to do that. Where's the
best place to get plants? I've heard different things about this, right,
because you know, you can order plants online and yeah,
and I will say I did order one particular player
online a money plant and it's doing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, the money tree or the coin one.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
No, the money tree, like it's a oh yeah, and
that one actually is doing I've had that for a
couple of years now and it's actually doing fine.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He's a lovely zilient queen.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah I have. I was like, this survived me. Hello,
And I did order that one online.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But then I also will go to like a plant
store that's in Best Eye.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, yes, I go to Natty.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I go to both of them.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There's one and best I won in Prospect Heights. And
then I also have a person that they do pop
ups plant Topia, and they'll.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Bring the plants.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh yeah, I've heard yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah to me, and so I do.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But you know, I've heard different things about like where
you should get plants from, when you get your plants
because you're special?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
How do you sour a little X?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Maybe it's interesting because I there are a lot of
plant shops that I used to shop at and plants
that I've included in my book that just that closed down.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Fortunately.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, so said Chris Hardware with one I really love
Greenery n y C. With another one, I really enjoyed.
But plant shop that I have shopped at a little
shop of soil that's the Bushwick, A play on a
little Yeah, that's cute. There's a Chelsea Garden Center that's
in Williamsburg. There's Tula House that's like bordering green Point Williamsburg.
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What do you think about the Brooklyn Botanic Garden the
New York.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh, I should go to the Brooklyn Tanna Gardens. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love them. Listen, I went to the light show.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The variety baby, the variety of plants they have there.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I never thought about that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
What about ordering online? Have you ever done that?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I have?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I have having them self watering pasts and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Do they do?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And you know, I say what, I think it's important
for folks to experiment the different.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And see what works for them. That's that's what you
have to do.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Ordering plants online. I'm at a point I have over.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Two hundred plants.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm not.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I have to be very particular about what I bring
into my home. One because I ain't got that much space.
So that's one.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Two. I inspect the plant down.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, and you can't do that online.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah no, yeah, And I like, I'm I'm looking through
the soil, I'm looking at the leaves. I'm like, got
to make sure nothing is on this plant before I
bring it into my indoor jungle.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I prefer to shop in person.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
However, I understand that, you know, folks may not have
the time to do that, right and.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
They may be just getting started on their journey.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, so like, do what works for you, whatever flows
to your boat, do it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
How about how your plants get along with each other?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I haven't answered that question before, you know, I think depending,
I mean, there are some plants that are epiphytic, and
epiphytic plants are plants that grow on other plants, right,
so like you have the postos is one of the plants.
Like I was in Sri Lanka for my birthday recently,
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there was a right little little trip across the water,
there was a postos like wrapping up a tree.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Right Husually there's.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
A stackkwon fern. There's so many different plants that grow
harmoniously with other plants. Is also parasitic plants as well,
they kind of take over.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering because sometimes there was
a I put two plants together and I feel like
one plant like killed the other plant next to each other,
like in the window, and I was.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like, that can happen.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean, you know, depending on how the leaves are growing,
if it's blocking sunlight, if it's in the same pot,
and the roots so a little stronger and soaking up
the water before the other plant can. However, my I
don't have different plants in the same pot and my plant.
It's interesting because if you leave a plant where it
is for long enough, it creates its own groove, right,
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and it grows in its own way. And so I
have a lot of plants that are kind of just
growing with each other in a beautiful way to the
point where I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Move that right pose for the camera.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
One thing that helped me, I was so this one plant,
a rubber plant that would look like it was, you know,
not doing well this winter. I got a humidifier, and
I'm gonna be honest. Humidifier perked things up for me, like,
damn near instantly.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yes, yes, they're you know.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
They's the perception that if you spread the leaves of
a plant, that's humidity.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's not humidity.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's like you're putting moisture on the leaves, which invites
past and bacteria and all that stuff. So I encourage
folks not to do that. Humidity is the local moisture
in the air, right, It's not you know, you spraying
and braining the plant. And the average indoor humidity UH
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is very low, right, And so one is helpful for
us as humans to have humidifier in the home to
dry dust. Right, It dampens all of that. But then two,
it allows the plant to go through its photosynthesis easier
and we're mimicking the natural habitat.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It really saved my plant. I was like, you're doing good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Trying, but I can't put a humidifier by all of them.
I just got one, and that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Just start with that, start where you can.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
But you're you're you're you're witnessing how you know, the
experimentation and the things that you're trying is improving you know,
your plants and your jungle.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So you're in it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm on this journey with you. You know. I want
to come see your plants.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I want drawling. It's a jungle. It's a jungle.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I want a jungle in my home. Now. Lastly, in
my basement. No light, it's a basement.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Is there anything that can the rive orris is just
a wrap for plants in a space like that?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Okay, it's not all hope is not lost? Right, however,
there you know plants need lights? Yeah right, And unfortunately,
I think when plants are marketed as low light, plants
are like some folks are like, oh girl, and you
need no lighter, no corner. I mean I have friends
who have bathrooms with no windows and they have plants,
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and I'm like, girl, I come out and I'm like, girl,
what are you doing? Like you could at least stage this,
like you know, who I am.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Girl, the plant is because I love you. And so
what you could do, what you could try.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
There are plants that really respond to artificial grow lights,
led grow lights, and so I've replaced a lot of
my ceiling lights with purple led grow lights.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Okay, that's interesting and.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It's a mood honey, pale, little shaw da, you know,
turn the lights on. But yeah, so that's something that
you could try. And when it comes to the types
of plant, low light tolerant plants are usually plants that will.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Grow in that kind of environment.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I compared to like a cactus or a thuculand plant
that really enjoy like a lot of bright light. However,
that plant is not going to grow in the same
way as it would if it was a natural sunlight.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And then I want to ask about as the sea
and start changing. Is it time to rep How often
do you need to repot your plant?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I mean, I probably don't repot my plant as much
as I should. I do have a big garden.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, like two hundred very time consuming.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, very time consuming, and I just got my nails,
you know, but I would say every year to two years. However,
sometimes it's not some folks are like, oh my god,
when you repot in neither larger pot as well. Sometimes
repotting it's just changing the soil.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Okay, you can just dump that soil into.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, just like changing the soil. You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Change I want to hire somebody to do that. I
don't want to do that myself.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Is that crazy? Okay? All right? Just asking.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, if I wasn't so particular about my plants like
you do it. You're so particular, I would probably hire someone.
But like, I'm just, yeah, a bit of a control
freak when it comes to I.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Just want things done right. I feel really bad, you
know what I mean. I feel bad that, like I
have a couple of dried out plants in the window
and it happened.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I know, Okay, happens. We got to give ourselves grace.
You know you're working on your green muscle.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I am, well, I appreciate it. You grow girl. Also
Plant Queen's lush Guide to Grow in your Garden. I
feel like that is a must read for anybody that's
trying to get into this space because I know, I'm
gonna be honest, having plants in my house has made
me so much happier, like just the existence of.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
It, coming home and seeing it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But sometimes it depresses me when I feel like I'm
not doing everything I can as a mom death fair
to my plants.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I mean, I you know something that I really enjoy
about you grow girl, is that it takes a storytelling approach, right,
and so it tells the story and then goes into
practical steps right that you can follow. And I think
we have to give ourselves grace when we're bringing plants
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in doors.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There's a lot happening in the world.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
A lizard.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I actually had a lizard in my house and I
know it came from one of the plants. Really, Yeah,
I went upstairs. You should have heard me screen.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's one thing if I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It was already like really dried up and like kind
of dead on the ground. I know it was small,
and I was like, one of these plants bought this
lizard in here.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
And that's why I inspect every plant. I mean, I've
heard whr and I don't want to freak people out.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I've heard depending on the size of the plant, rats, mice, roaches, snips, beetles.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Centip that can handle Yeah, ant lad I've seen.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, so like when I expectly when I'm getting a
big plant, I got the gloves.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Dan have maggots.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm like, all right, girls, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You gotta tell Dan have maggots from a plant.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Maggot. Yeah, I never heard that on. I'm gonna add
that to my repertoire.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
A repertoire gotta added that's added added it to the story.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
But yeah, that little lizard it was.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh honey, I got stories for.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Some of these stories. I've been seeing rats running around.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They're like, oh, that's just normal, like inside where they
have like plants and stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm like, I don't know how I feel like.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Where you think they got their little their little nest
and stuff like that. That's why you gotta that's again,
that's why I am very particular about what I expecting anything.
I bring it to my home, clothes, art, what furniture, like,
I'm always me I'm looking making sure.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And you gotta dust the leaves off too. That's another
thing to wipe them.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Wiping the leaves off. There's a lot of different products.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
All you really need is like some water and maybe
like some plant soap or something like that, and that
kind of that helps the plant takes in as much
sunshine as possible because the dust.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Like claws, they can clog it up the plant.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like see, I'll be trying. You know what you're doing.
I try, so I'm gonna do better.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know, I'm gonna have two hundred plants because that's
you know. I commend you for the effort and the
work that you put in. Thank you so And I
just want to thank you so much for coming that
we're going to revisit this.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I want to come see you. I need like all
the help.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh I could go on for days. Honey.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
All right, well, Christopher plant queen, anytime you are welcome
to come.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I can't have a plant in here, clearly. How do
you feel about fake plants? I will say, like an abasement.
You know what I really want to do. I want
to do like vines around the arches in my basement.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Okay, I mean, like, look, it's furniture. If it's going
to help you feel better in your faith, and I
they do it. If not for me, I think I
have like one random plant leaf that I got from
an event, and so I kept that.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But you know something that you could do. I do.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I drive flowers. Oh okay, so I hang them upside
down and that's my way if like these flowers want
to last forever.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, my mom does that.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, so I think.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's the way, right to bring something natural and real
into your space but have it last.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
For a long time.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
What do you think about those forever flowers that they
the roses and stuff that they have that you could
buy like a box.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I have one right here.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Hey okay, well they dried right yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, they last forever. That's so I think.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Look if they are dried and they are natural, I'm like,
I'm all for it. I actually have My mother passed
away in twenty twenty, but she cuts some roses for
me when she came up for World Pride in like
twenty eighteen. I still have those roses. Oh, drive them
and so yeah, create memories. Like if there's something special
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for you and you want to preserve that, then do
what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
And I know, in this day and age, everything that's
going on around us can feel overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And I know for you blackquer joy is also.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Something that you're super focused on and so do you
feel like just being this plant Queen is something that
brings that also?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It is I think, you know, plant Queen has allowed
me to explore my identity as a black qure non
binary person and to share that, share my truth with
other folks, and to serve as an invitation for folks
to exist.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
In their truth. Right.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
When I was a college counselor working for a high school,
there was a student that came up to me. They
were getting ready to graduate, and they was like, you know,
I never met someone like you. And I'm like, all right, girl,
where are we going with this? You know, I know
with students? And they're like, you know what, Like you
show up as your full sell in a professional setting.
And that makes me feel like I can show up
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in the ways I want to show up, or that
I can experiment and be curious about how I show up.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
And so that stuck with me.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And that was before Plant Queen, right, And so that
stuck with me as a bit of a mantra that
I follow for myself, like be yourself because you never
know who you're going to inspire to be their self.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Isn't it great how the kids are teaching us?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Child the kids always teaching. That's why I went into education.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
What about this outfit today, because I know we got to.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Dwelling and this old thing got stepped from the closet.
I actually thrifted this piece.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, I thrifted this piece. I think I found them separately.
What yeah, I know that's how much I shop.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I'll like go into a shop and I found we're friends.
That happened multiple times. But yeah, I thrifted this piece.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
This little scarf moment is from a shop called Magic
Hill and Hudson.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And then I just have.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Like the crown and stuff like that and the chrome.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Oh yeah, we leve a little little gold a little
golden girl. All right.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well this is my friend Christopher Griffin.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Plant queen. Thank you so much for joining me today.
I really appreciate you. I feel not so bad about
myself now. And plant the ways you need to grow
that green muss will getting planting every day. Well, thank
you so much. It's way up
What's up his way up with Angela Yee and I
have plant Queen here aka Christopher Griffin. Thank you so
much for joining me today.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you for having me that your pleasure.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is important for me.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Because just looking at your page and everything that you've done,
you have over two hundred plants in your space in Brooklyn.
I do, and this is a journey that you've been
on for how long now about it's over?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I mean I've been a plant queen for all of
my life, but my first plan I got in like.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, so.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
It's been a little over a decade that I've been
bringing plants into my space.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Plants bring me so much joy.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
One of the first things that I wanted when I
moved when I have more space, was to finally have
some plants because I also know the benefits that they provide,
you know, in the air for quality of air. And
for anybody listening that is like trying to figure out
because it's such a journey. I just remember like googling
what plants can live because it was a rough winter here.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, and some of mine, if.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I live in New York long enough, they understand that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, so I just what was your first plant?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
My first plant was a marble Queen pothos and I
still have that plant.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah she's still kicking, she's still alive. Hold it down.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But okay, just because I know for a lot of us,
and me in particular, I'm like, how do I keep
these plants alive?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's one thing. They look so good when you buy them.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When you bring up honey.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So if you're talking to somebody like me, right, and
I'm just picking your brain for advice, that's why listen,
you're helping me. Okay, if you have to say, okay,
I live in a place where it's not always warm, right,
and the plants are indoors, it's not always sunlight, and
everything's not going to be in the window. What are
some good plants that are going to live but if
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we take care of them, but also are good for us,
Like in the home.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I there's three plants that I recommend, and so low maintenance.
I'm sorry, low maintenance on low maintenance, low maintenance. We
love low maintenance. It's a good starter. So these are
three starter plants. So the pothos is a very miny, resilient, plant.
It's actually considered invasive species in some countries.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay, so that's how good she grows?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, Okay, I think I have that.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, so, I mean a lot of people have it
and like it's a wonderful plant.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Then the easy plant, I.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Have that too, come on part Okay, you got the look.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And then the snake plant.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, the snake place I feel like have been the
easiest for me. The snake plant.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Hello, snake plants are they thrive with a little neglect.
And so I encourage folk to start with those three plants,
these snake plant and pothos, those are like good beginners.
But I encourage folk to kind of do like a
self reflection of like what kind of care do you
enjoy giving?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Are you a queen on the go and you're like, girl,
I just need something that need a little drop water
and then like we'll figure it out. Or are you
like an over water where you may need like an
orchid or an African violet that requires like a little
bit more attention. But I encourage folk to kind of
do that like internal reflection. I mean I think it's
good for life.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean even for you know, it's been
devastating for me because some of my plants have just
not made it through their first year on this.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Planet, and I honestly feel terrible.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And sometimes it feels out of control when you see
the leaves turning brown, you know, and you're like, how
can I revive this plant?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And so I actually will I have one of those apps?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What app you got? What you got? Girl?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I want to know what you think about that?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Because they have these apps and you can take like
a picture of your plant.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Who child, somebody, well, somebody apps are.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm so mad at myself for doing this because it
did not help.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Somebody's apps are helpful, but some of them. I'm like, girl,
that's not even the same plant.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Baby, I will show you what I have, But you
know what, would you advise though, because sometimes it's hard
to keep track, right, Like you're trying to keep track
of this is the one I have?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Wait, I don't know this one?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh yeah, I got that one too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And so I tried to do this thinking like cause
I you know, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do
all the right things. I want my plants to live,
I want them to thrive. I want to be able
to breathe in the air. And my plants look so
different now than they did when I first got them.
I have this fiddle leaf big plant, and when I
tell you that plant is there's one leaf left, and
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I'm like one leaf.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And it was.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
They're so beautiful when you get them, but then it's
just such a difficult thing to maintain.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It is sometimes, and I think we have to give
ourselves grace when we're bringing plants into our homes. I mean,
we're basically bringing the living wile features into caves with
windows right our homes, Like the average person does not
have a nursery, right, Like, they are coming from these
very pristine, perfect conditions settings and then we're bringing them
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into a very different environment.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So I think we have to give ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Grace when we're bringing plants into our homes and understanding
that how they grow in nurseries will not be how
they grow in our home, right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They looking said they do by yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But I think we, uh, if we allow ourselves an
opportunity to kind of just sit and see and observe,
then there's no such thing as a green thumb. Like
I don't believe in a green thumb. I believe in
a green muscle, something you build over time with. Like
any skill, right, you have to practice and a part
of that practice is plants dying. You know that little
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botanical garden in the sky.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I got a lot of plants for your mental health?
What does having plants.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Do for you?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm a person that navigates anxiety. I have been navigating
anxiety since I was a little kid. My mom also
navigated anxiety, but as black folks, we're worried wars, like
worry wors, we didn't name it as anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Later in therapy, I was like, girl every anxiety.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And so for me, bringing plants into my home is
a has created a system of accountability that allows me
to experience flow and be in my body and get
out of my head and all the stories my anxiety
tells me in my head, and how exhausting it can
be to follow all those different stories, and so watering
my plants has allowed me to kind of just be centered,
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be in my space, and be grounded in my body
and not be floating off into these worlds my anxiety
is creating for me. So that's what my plants have done.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
For me.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, I and sometimes, like you know, you talk to
your plants, you like, come on, baby, like I do.
I'm like grom a baby, you have a white little chappohar, Yes,
come on?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Then you know what they try to.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So I almost bought one of those venus fly traps,
you know those, you know what I'm talking about. They
have They actually have a plant that will trap like
bugs and.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's so many.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Then I felt like, I don't know if I want that,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I mean, those are really tricky to care for. They
need certain conditions and if you really want it to thrive,
it has to eat insects.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It kind of feels like rude in a way.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know if I want like dead bugs inside
of a plant in my it feels kind of mean
because then they're also alive for a little while.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
The venus fly trap, you have to they's the mechanism
where you have it has to be the fine hairs
on the leaf have to be brushed a certain amount
of time within a particular time frame, and for it
in order for it to close, and then the digestive juices.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's do you have one of those?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I have one, and I was curious. I'm just a nerd,
and I'm like, you wanted to see what that was?
And so I did have one, but she didn't survive
with me because she was like, girl, ain't no insects in.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Here, like one of my baby, I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's a positive thing and another thing you have to
be aware of. And when I was buying plants, I
realized this is that there are certain plants if the
leaves fall and you have pets, it could be poisonous.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Oh yes, yes, the peace lily is a very common
plant that's extremely poisonous. You know, a lot of the
tropical plants that we bring into our homes are actually toxic,
not to the point where you know it will lead
to death, but definitely a strong timmy ache, vomiting things.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Of that nature headache. But yeah, a lot of the
plants that we bring into our homes are toxic.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So how do we navigate that, especially if we have pets.
Are there certain plants that we should stay away from?
Or like, how does that work if you want to
have plantants but also have little furry creatures?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, so most plant shop I think, out of liability
will label like pet safe and not pet safe, And
so I think, like, what are their particular palms that
are safe for plants. I think peppermias are safe for plants.
There are a variety that work well with little furry
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creatures running around. But however, I do have friends who
have cats who have toxic plants, and there are way
to just train the animal not to so, like I
think with cats, they don't enjoy fitrthy things. I don't
have a cat, but if you rim the pot with
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like a lemon or something, go to it. So there's
like little natural ways to deter pets from messing with
your plants.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Man, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So I also I want to talk to you about
how you've made this into such a business for yourself
and collaborating with hotels, being an author. What are some
things because this is something you were passionate about, did
you ever think this would be something you could monetize?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I don't know, well, no, I never thought when I
you know, when I started this, this was just like
a passion, a hobby.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's still much, you know, very much a passion.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But yeah, like I just want to I bought some plants.
I want to share with people. As an educator, I
enjoy sharing anything that I learned. I like sharing with folks.
So it's just like a very natural process for me.
But then there came a point where there was this.
It was a random company that wanted to use my
apartment for an ad and they wanted me to feature
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in it and talk in front of the camera. And
so like my professional background, I got my master's in
high education student and fears the administration, and so I'm used to,
you know, doing events and being the host and all
that jazz, so very much used to being in front
of people and delivering a methage or anything like that.
And they paid me a month salary for I think
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a few hours of shooting.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh. I was like, oh baby, you.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Were like listen, I said, really smart, I gotta I
gotta put the more attention into it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
So I put more attention into it and you know,
more energy. And it grew into this lovely community of
people that I get to connect with every single day,
grew into lovely collaborations with institutions I care about the
Brooklyn Botannic Garden. Yes, I'm NYBG City Harvest the New
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York Restoration Project. Like all organizations that I truly love
and support their mission, I get to work with them
on raising awareness around the work that they're doing, so
very very lovely in that way. But then also I
get to work with fun brands And I went on
a brand trip with Natural Geographic to Tanzania.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh my god, I see you traveling all the time?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Fab You ever go on solo trips?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh? Baby, That's the only way to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Really, I can't break that down.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, like, I get to go where I want
to go. I don't have to answer to anyone. If
I'm like, girl, I just want to lay in my
hotel bed the entire day.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
If I'm like I want to go on a height,
then I want to go diving. Then I want to
go eat dinner like I love. But I think it's
important for me, especially as a black, queer, non binary person,
that I uh enjoy the intimacy of my solitude right,
and that I understand that I can be the manifestor
of my own joy.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't have to rely on others to make myself happy.
I'm a good time by.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Myself, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And so, and while simultaneously I understand that community care
and community support is as equally important. There are days
when I can't water myself and I have to rely
on my network in my community of family. We love
ones and friends to care for me, but I want
to have the option right and traveling solo it just
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clicks something for me in a way where it gets
It helped me practice this in real time right, Like
I can't rely or I just can't like meet up
with a friend while I'm there. I really have to
figure out, like how can I enjoy myself with myself
and sit with my thoughts. Man, It's a beautiful, a
beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm gonna try that one day.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm telling you it will.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I always say that the world. If I was going to.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Travel, baby, we would be the first place you would say,
go alone.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh my goodness, I'm like, well, out of on the map?
Are you a beach person?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Okay, then anguilla, I wait, where did you say?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I stayed on a couple of different places. Is first
it was the Viceroy, but now it's the fourth season.
So I stayed there, I had dinner there, and then
I stayed at this golf resort that's out there, that's
am I forgeting the name of it, but I stayed
at a golf resort when I was it that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No cap Julica, baby, or it's expensive as hell. But
if you go on like the off season.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, or if I tell them I know you, yes.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Hopefully to give you this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
That Anguilla was. So I think for people who are
just trying it out, I think it's helpful if you
know the place already, right, because then you can kind
of fall, you know, into some of those things you
did before. So it's just not like a blank slate.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But yeah, okay, that's a good suggestion. I love Anguilla.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, Anguilla is. And then cap Julica the Bellmont Hotel.
I think Oprah enjoys the one in Saint Martin, and.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So I love saying I got to say a couple
of times a year I like it.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And I was like, and you know, I don't party
when I when I travel. It's like a part of
my anxiety. I don't necessarily always feel safe in like
night life by myself. And so cap Ulica and Guilla
it's just like, girl, you got the beach.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, no, the beach is amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And I want to say this though, what I like
is also like a lounge more than a club. Like
I enjoyed, like some good music, to sit on a cow,
to have a drink. Yeah, exactly, you get it. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I you know, I was a party and girl back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You would may not notice about me, but yes, I
was a party no way.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
When you were in New Yorker and Philly. When I
was in Philly, baby, Okay, Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Born to Ray and baby, I was on those playgrounds Okay, yeah, child,
Yeah it was. I don't know, I just had a
lot of energy. And I mean growing up in Philly,
going to college in Philly, I had an upper hand
because I just I just.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Knew you were comfortable, you were familiar.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah yeah, and I had community and so I was
able to really end I have. You know, my family
was there. So but yeah, baby, I was partying Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So you parted out a day you parted out, I
partied out there. Yeah, I feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now I want to get back to overwatering because you
talked about that, and so sometimes I feel like that
has been an issue for me because automatically we think
if there's an issue with the plant, it's because in
these water and sometimes we do tend to be like
giving it too much water.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes, how do you know when you've overwatered a plant?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Child?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
There's a lot of signs, but sometimes it looks the
same as other issues, whether that's like a deficiency in
nutrients or not enough sunlight. And so for watering, the
trick is always to check out the soil before.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
You water it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Okay, right, your finger in or.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
So you know, if you got your nails done, you're
like a girl, Yes you know it this expensive man.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There are soil probes that you can stick in.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You turn it and it like takes out soil from
different parts of the pot and you can feel that, right,
And so I think it's always one important to check
the soil. Also just be in a routine like what
I know folks like, yeah, what are my plant every day?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What when you're not supposed to them?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And then too does it rain every day? Like girl?
Like you got to think of like girl.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But then also it's like understanding the plants that you're
bringing into your home. So like folks are like, I'm
going to have to plant care tips, I say, you
go a step further, and what is the natural habitat
this plant comes from? Get the nerd and me the
educator in me, right, and so yes, sometimes it looks
like soggy soil. Sometimes it looks like riding roots or
mold on the top soil.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
And if that happened, you kind of have to take
the plant out and read.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, how you got So sometimes it gets to the
point where the root system is so damaged. Because as
much as our plants need water, they need air right,
and so sometimes the root system is so damaged that
is you can't save it. So what you could do
is propagate it right and take a snipping of the
plant and then regrow it. I've done that with multiple plants, Okay,
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multiple plants, and it works.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Shesh. How can you all? Right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So, what are some ways you can revive a plant?
I told you my fiddle leaf fig has one leaf left.
It was so beautiful when I got it, and it
has been I've moved it to different places in the
house to see if it can like thrive better hair.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Hair hair, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
So fiddlely figs, it's like, girl, leave me alone, like,
let me figure this out. Fiddlely figs are notoriously known
to just like just put them in one spot and
just see how they grow. I think often when we're
bringing plants from nurseries into our home home, we're expecting
them to look how they are in the nursery.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
However, if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
When we as humans and people go into new environment,
there's usually some type there's some parts of myself that
we have to shed or let go of, right to grow.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
In new ways. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And so when we think of the leaves on plants
and they have grown in those particular environments, they're not
used to the conditions that we're bringing them into. So
they're going to shed those leaves so that they can
produce new leaves that are equipped to work with.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The environment they're in now, okay, right.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And so.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I think when we see a leave dropping like oh
that that that means it's not working area.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's like it's like, no, girl, I just gotta let
this go so I can like focus on some new
grown leaf.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Left. Well I'm kidding, but thank you for being kind, but.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
No, So what you could do is try to propagate it.
And so what you could do is like snip the
stem and put it in water, maybe put some growth
hormone on the end of the stem and try to
propagate it there. Or you know, you can also you
can get a new one.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think I'm gonna have to do that. Where's the
best place to get plants? I've heard different things about this, right,
because you know, you can order plants online and yeah,
and I will say I did order one particular player
online a money plant and it's doing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, the money tree or the coin one.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
No, the money tree, like it's a oh yeah, and
that one actually is doing I've had that for a
couple of years now and it's actually doing fine.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He's a lovely zilient queen.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah I have. I was like, this survived me. Hello,
And I did order that one online.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But then I also will go to like a plant
store that's in Best Eye.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, yes, I go to Natty.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I go to both of them.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There's one and best I won in Prospect Heights. And
then I also have a person that they do pop
ups plant Topia, and they'll.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Bring the plants.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh yeah, I've heard yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah to me, and so I do.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But you know, I've heard different things about like where
you should get plants from, when you get your plants
because you're special?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
How do you sour a little X?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Maybe it's interesting because I there are a lot of
plant shops that I used to shop at and plants
that I've included in my book that just that closed down.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Fortunately.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, so said Chris Hardware with one I really love
Greenery n y C. With another one, I really enjoyed.
But plant shop that I have shopped at a little
shop of soil that's the Bushwick, A play on a
little Yeah, that's cute. There's a Chelsea Garden Center that's
in Williamsburg. There's Tula House that's like bordering green Point Williamsburg.
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What do you think about the Brooklyn Botanic Garden the
New York.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh, I should go to the Brooklyn Tanna Gardens. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love them. Listen, I went to the light show.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The variety baby, the variety of plants they have there.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I never thought about that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
What about ordering online? Have you ever done that?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I have?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I have having them self watering pasts and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Do they do?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And you know, I say what, I think it's important
for folks to experiment the different.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And see what works for them. That's that's what you
have to do.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Ordering plants online. I'm at a point I have over.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Two hundred plants.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm not.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I have to be very particular about what I bring
into my home. One because I ain't got that much space.
So that's one.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Two. I inspect the plant down.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, and you can't do that online.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah no, yeah, And I like, I'm I'm looking through
the soil, I'm looking at the leaves. I'm like, got
to make sure nothing is on this plant before I
bring it into my indoor jungle.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I prefer to shop in person.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
However, I understand that, you know, folks may not have
the time to do that, right and.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
They may be just getting started on their journey.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, so like, do what works for you, whatever flows
to your boat, do it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
How about how your plants get along with each other?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I haven't answered that question before, you know, I think depending,
I mean, there are some plants that are epiphytic, and
epiphytic plants are plants that grow on other plants, right,
so like you have the postos is one of the plants.
Like I was in Sri Lanka for my birthday recently,
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there was a right little little trip across the water,
there was a postos like wrapping up a tree.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Right Husually there's.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
A stackkwon fern. There's so many different plants that grow
harmoniously with other plants. Is also parasitic plants as well,
they kind of take over.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering because sometimes there was
a I put two plants together and I feel like
one plant like killed the other plant next to each other,
like in the window, and I was.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like, that can happen.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean, you know, depending on how the leaves are growing,
if it's blocking sunlight, if it's in the same pot,
and the roots so a little stronger and soaking up
the water before the other plant can. However, my I
don't have different plants in the same pot and my plant.
It's interesting because if you leave a plant where it
is for long enough, it creates its own groove, right,
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and it grows in its own way. And so I
have a lot of plants that are kind of just
growing with each other in a beautiful way to the
point where I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Move that right pose for the camera.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
One thing that helped me, I was so this one plant,
a rubber plant that would look like it was, you know,
not doing well this winter. I got a humidifier, and
I'm gonna be honest. Humidifier perked things up for me, like,
damn near instantly.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yes, yes, they're you know.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
They's the perception that if you spread the leaves of
a plant, that's humidity.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's not humidity.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's like you're putting moisture on the leaves, which invites
past and bacteria and all that stuff. So I encourage
folks not to do that. Humidity is the local moisture
in the air, right, It's not you know, you spraying
and braining the plant. And the average indoor humidity UH
(25:33):
is very low, right, And so one is helpful for
us as humans to have humidifier in the home to
dry dust. Right, It dampens all of that. But then two,
it allows the plant to go through its photosynthesis easier
and we're mimicking the natural habitat.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It really saved my plant. I was like, you're doing good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Trying, but I can't put a humidifier by all of them.
I just got one, and that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Just start with that, start where you can.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
But you're you're you're you're witnessing how you know, the
experimentation and the things that you're trying is improving you know,
your plants and your jungle.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So you're in it.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm on this journey with you. You know. I want
to come see your plants.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I want drawling. It's a jungle. It's a jungle.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I want a jungle in my home. Now. Lastly, in
my basement. No light, it's a basement.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Is there anything that can the rive orris is just
a wrap for plants in a space like that?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Okay, it's not all hope is not lost? Right, however,
there you know plants need lights? Yeah right, And unfortunately,
I think when plants are marketed as low light, plants
are like some folks are like, oh girl, and you
need no lighter, no corner. I mean I have friends
who have bathrooms with no windows and they have plants,
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and I'm like, girl, I come out and I'm like, girl,
what are you doing? Like you could at least stage this,
like you know, who I am.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Girl, the plant is because I love you. And so
what you could do, what you could try.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
There are plants that really respond to artificial grow lights,
led grow lights, and so I've replaced a lot of
my ceiling lights with purple led grow lights.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Okay, that's interesting and.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It's a mood honey, pale, little shaw da, you know,
turn the lights on. But yeah, so that's something that
you could try. And when it comes to the types
of plant, low light tolerant plants are usually plants that will.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Grow in that kind of environment.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I compared to like a cactus or a thuculand plant
that really enjoy like a lot of bright light. However,
that plant is not going to grow in the same
way as it would if it was a natural sunlight.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And then I want to ask about as the sea
and start changing. Is it time to rep How often
do you need to repot your plant?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I mean, I probably don't repot my plant as much
as I should. I do have a big garden.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, like two hundred very time consuming.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, very time consuming, and I just got my nails,
you know, but I would say every year to two years. However,
sometimes it's not some folks are like, oh my god,
when you repot in neither larger pot as well. Sometimes
repotting it's just changing the soil.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Okay, you can just dump that soil into.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, just like changing the soil. You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Change I want to hire somebody to do that. I
don't want to do that myself.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Is that crazy? Okay? All right? Just asking.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, if I wasn't so particular about my plants like
you do it. You're so particular, I would probably hire someone.
But like, I'm just, yeah, a bit of a control
freak when it comes to I.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Just want things done right. I feel really bad, you
know what I mean. I feel bad that, like I
have a couple of dried out plants in the window
and it happened.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I know, Okay, happens. We got to give ourselves grace.
You know you're working on your green muscle.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I am, well, I appreciate it. You grow girl. Also
Plant Queen's lush Guide to Grow in your Garden. I
feel like that is a must read for anybody that's
trying to get into this space because I know, I'm
gonna be honest, having plants in my house has made
me so much happier, like just the existence of.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
It, coming home and seeing it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But sometimes it depresses me when I feel like I'm
not doing everything I can as a mom death fair
to my plants.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I mean, I you know something that I really enjoy
about you grow girl, is that it takes a storytelling approach, right,
and so it tells the story and then goes into
practical steps right that you can follow. And I think
we have to give ourselves grace when we're bringing plants
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in doors.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There's a lot happening in the world.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
A lizard.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I actually had a lizard in my house and I
know it came from one of the plants. Really, Yeah,
I went upstairs. You should have heard me screen.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's one thing if I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It was already like really dried up and like kind
of dead on the ground. I know it was small,
and I was like, one of these plants bought this
lizard in here.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
And that's why I inspect every plant. I mean, I've
heard whr and I don't want to freak people out.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I've heard depending on the size of the plant, rats, mice, roaches, snips, beetles.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Centip that can handle Yeah, ant lad I've seen.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, so like when I expectly when I'm getting a
big plant, I got the gloves.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Dan have maggots.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm like, all right, girls, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You gotta tell Dan have maggots from a plant.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Maggot. Yeah, I never heard that on. I'm gonna add
that to my repertoire.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
A repertoire gotta added that's added added it to the story.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
But yeah, that little lizard it was.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh honey, I got stories for.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Some of these stories. I've been seeing rats running around.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They're like, oh, that's just normal, like inside where they
have like plants and stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm like, I don't know how I feel like.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Where you think they got their little their little nest
and stuff like that. That's why you gotta that's again,
that's why I am very particular about what I expecting anything.
I bring it to my home, clothes, art, what furniture, like,
I'm always me I'm looking making sure.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And you gotta dust the leaves off too. That's another
thing to wipe them.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Wiping the leaves off. There's a lot of different products.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
All you really need is like some water and maybe
like some plant soap or something like that, and that
kind of that helps the plant takes in as much
sunshine as possible because the dust.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Like claws, they can clog it up the plant.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like see, I'll be trying. You know what you're doing.
I try, so I'm gonna do better.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know, I'm gonna have two hundred plants because that's
you know. I commend you for the effort and the
work that you put in. Thank you so And I
just want to thank you so much for coming that
we're going to revisit this.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I want to come see you. I need like all
the help.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh I could go on for days. Honey.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
All right, well, Christopher plant queen, anytime you are welcome
to come.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I can't have a plant in here, clearly. How do
you feel about fake plants? I will say, like an abasement.
You know what I really want to do. I want
to do like vines around the arches in my basement.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Okay, I mean, like, look, it's furniture. If it's going
to help you feel better in your faith, and I
they do it. If not for me, I think I
have like one random plant leaf that I got from
an event, and so I kept that.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But you know something that you could do. I do.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I drive flowers. Oh okay, so I hang them upside
down and that's my way if like these flowers want
to last forever.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, my mom does that.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, so I think.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's the way, right to bring something natural and real
into your space but have it last.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
For a long time.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
What do you think about those forever flowers that they
the roses and stuff that they have that you could
buy like a box.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I have one right here.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Hey okay, well they dried right yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, they last forever. That's so I think.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Look if they are dried and they are natural, I'm like,
I'm all for it. I actually have My mother passed
away in twenty twenty, but she cuts some roses for
me when she came up for World Pride in like
twenty eighteen. I still have those roses. Oh, drive them
and so yeah, create memories. Like if there's something special
(33:45):
for you and you want to preserve that, then do
what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
And I know, in this day and age, everything that's
going on around us can feel overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And I know for you blackquer joy is also.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Something that you're super focused on and so do you
feel like just being this plant Queen is something that
brings that also?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It is I think, you know, plant Queen has allowed
me to explore my identity as a black qure non
binary person and to share that, share my truth with
other folks, and to serve as an invitation for folks
to exist.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
In their truth. Right.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
When I was a college counselor working for a high school,
there was a student that came up to me. They
were getting ready to graduate, and they was like, you know,
I never met someone like you. And I'm like, all right, girl,
where are we going with this? You know, I know
with students? And they're like, you know what, Like you
show up as your full sell in a professional setting.
And that makes me feel like I can show up
(34:47):
in the ways I want to show up, or that
I can experiment and be curious about how I show up.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
And so that stuck with me.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And that was before Plant Queen, right, And so that
stuck with me as a bit of a mantra that
I follow for myself, like be yourself because you never
know who you're going to inspire to be their self.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Isn't it great how the kids are teaching us?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Child the kids always teaching. That's why I went into education.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
What about this outfit today, because I know we got to.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Dwelling and this old thing got stepped from the closet.
I actually thrifted this piece.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, I thrifted this piece. I think I found them separately.
What yeah, I know that's how much I shop.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I'll like go into a shop and I found we're friends.
That happened multiple times. But yeah, I thrifted this piece.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
This little scarf moment is from a shop called Magic
Hill and Hudson.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And then I just have.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Like the crown and stuff like that and the chrome.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Oh yeah, we leve a little little gold a little
golden girl. All right.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well this is my friend Christopher Griffin.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Plant queen. Thank you so much for joining me today.
I really appreciate you. I feel not so bad about
myself now. And plant the ways you need to grow
that green muss will getting planting every day. Well, thank
you so much. It's way up
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