Shamar McCoy: Bad Boys DR, Cardi B Stage, Gas Station Incident & Life Stories + More

Shamar McCoy: Bad Boys DR, Cardi B Stage, Gas Station Incident & Life Stories + More

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Its way up for Angela Yee. I'm here with my
girl Jazmine Brands.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Yes, and we have Schamar here with us aka Big Marco.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
But first of all, I want to say congratulations to
you on all the success that you've been having. One
of my favorite videos of you are seeing how the
kids react when you come to the schools and they
literally get so excited and emotional to see you.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes, I mean they do get to see me like
and it it really like made me happy and it
made me smile because they just like you know what
I'm saying. I'm not trying to think a bad exampa
of what they should do and what they should not do.
You know what I'm saying. I think that I do

(00:48):
want to be a role model for like you know
what I'm saying, the kids, the adult and grown up
and stuff. So I do want to be a role model,
but I want to be a good role model. I
don't want to be like a bad roole model to
you know what I mean, to influence them to bad stuff.
But yeah, I mean I had a great time. I

(01:09):
went to the school and they were crazy, and you
know what I'm saying, it was fun. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Even if they're excited, you look excited to be there too.
It's like the energy that they're giving you is everything
that you need. Like those are the times I felt
like you look so happy?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I do that. I'm not having it in something
wrong with me, some going on, you know what I'm saying,
Like it'd be like you, all right, you're good if
something If something wrong me and I'm not feeling it,
then I'm just not feeling it? Are you? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Are you surprised by the success or did you know
all along like when you started going viral?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Did you know all along?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like, oh, I'm about to be this big star.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean I knew out a laon. You know what
I'm saying that I was going to be a start.
And I always believe in myself. That's why I always
think I would never am I to like, changed for nobody.
I don't care who you are. I would never change
for nobody. I'm just gonna be me and be real
and be true because if you don't be true, then

(02:11):
what's the difference? You know what I'm saying. And I
know for a fact, like people look at me as okay,
we love you for you or whatever, and like the
things that I have done back then, like when I
was doing crazy stuff like you know what I'm saying,
going outside making dance, the videos and stuff like that.

(02:35):
It's just like I even had nighbors out out they
window looking at me. What they doing? You know what
I'm saying, like the alright, But other than that, I'm
there for having fun.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah. Now you also don't in New York with it?
In New York with it?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
You also doing season three Bad Boys, Season three Dominican Republic.
That's gonna be on zeus. Did y'all film that already
or is that about to film?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
We actually did and filmed it. How is that? It's fun?
You know?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Are you fighting this season?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Square up?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I's good as you asked me that. If good as
you asked me that, because a lot of them fans
couldn't tell me, like the going the fight see that,
And I'm like, I'm not going on that fighting. I'm
just you know what I'm saying, I'm just going on
there to be a specially get That's what I was doing.
And then you know I did great. You know what
I'm saying. It was fun. I stayed out the way.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know what I'm saying, get your check, stay out the.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Way, collect that.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
But yeah, like you know what I'm saying, I definitely
didn't have if I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, okay, good.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, they did not want to try it. They know
like me, they don't want to try me because they
know I hit hard.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do you want to fight?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, to be real, I talked about THELF how
to fight because I used to fight pillows. I used
to fight the pillow. What does that mean pillow? I
mean like okay, so basically like so basically instead of
you like put your hands on somebody, you were ready
to put your hand on the pillow. You know what
I'm saying, Just to save yourself for even like being

(04:23):
in trouble or you know what I'm saying, yourself in
some serious trouble right that you can't get out of.
So if I was young, I used to always like
fight the pillow just to you know what I'm saying,
do out there and just you know what I'm saying,
make videos. I would say, to come up and just
record myself fighting the pillow that I look at it,
and you know what I'm saying. Like people, they love

(04:44):
what I do stuff like that. You know what I'm saying.
It's funny when I do stuff like this. So other
than I've been teaching myself how to fight, and I
go to the gym as well, but I gotta go back.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Have you ever lost the fight?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Mm hmm, because if you asked me, I did lose
a fight, but I got jumped. I'm saying it wasn't
really light no one on one. It was like they
jumped me, you know what I mean. And the reason
why it is because if you if me did I
put it? But person gonna fight me one on one

(05:18):
gets the way I'm well, we're gonna fight one on
one if you jumping, Oh, you're gonna get that too, right,
So yeah, you might be sitting on thighline waiting for
that face because.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
You know what I mean, it's like, yeah, now I
want to ask you about the song Enemy that you
did because and I also saw you did from the
Black too and perform that live. But Enemy is that
did that come from a place that you felt like?
Sometimes as you get more successful, you end up having
people that it's more like mad about things or business

(05:50):
deal's gone.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Left, And that's how I was like, you know what
I'm saying, going through things, and I was like ridly understanding,
mad like be with friends that I shouldn't even be
beefing with. But they thought I made a dis about
my friend, but I didn It was just I just
going into the studio and take my anger out on
the music. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Because me

(06:12):
is my passion. So when I started doing Enemy, you
know what I'm saying, I end up recording it first,
and then that's when I end up writing it down.
Once I write it. Once I wrote it down, that's
when when in the studio just did it everything. And
then it was like people just they got used to it.
They loved it, and you know what I'm saying. They

(06:34):
they wanted me to drop that so bad. So now
I got an Enemy special verse out and they still
love it.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
They love We all know what that's what that's like.
But You've also had some amazing moments. Let's talk about
this Cardi B moment on stage. Yes, that had to
be one of the biggest. Talk to me about what
that felt like knowing that you was about to go
on stage.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Do you get nervous?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
To me? I don't even getting nervous. I just stay
ready so I won't have to get ready.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I got liner for everything.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, I don't even gotta you know what I'm saying. I
stay ready so you don't have to get ready, you
know what I'm saying. So, but that experiment, it was fun.
It was good. It was lit, like you know what
I'm saying. Because I had to go do a rehearsal
and you know what I mean. So they had to,
you know, to direct me where I need to staying

(07:28):
and stuff like that, and shoot, I tell you know it,
it was like the time was almost depth. By the
time everybody got there, it was overloaded.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Where were you when you got the call that CARTI
wanted you to come out on tour on my team?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
My team they actually called me, and you know what
I'm saying, told me like, hey, you just just a
big deal for you. And I'm like, what's a big
deal for me? What you talking about? And I'm looking
at my man, I'm on the phone with Allison. I'm like,
what's you talking about? Ellen? It's a big deal. Like

(08:04):
and it's good that they always surprised me with something
bigger because I love to perform on bit stages, you
know what I'm saying, instead of just because when you
perform on big stages instead of performing the club, it
don't feel the same, right. It's like you performing in
the club and it's like people could just come up
to you and just grab you whenever they want to.

(08:26):
But if you on the stage, the people in the
crowd and they rock it with you, they love you,
you know what I'm saying. So that was a big
moment for me. And I do want to say shot
out to the car to b Okay because she's from
the Frag. My name is cardabb and I in front
of Frag. I was you said?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
She treated you great though, like aspire as celebrities dealing
with you.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
What was different about how Cardi.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
B She can't she can't. She gave me acouragement and
told me to you know what I'm saying, no matter what,
like you know what I'm saying, keep going and keep pushing.
And she was just like when she going through her
sad days or when she said or going through something
she struggled and boom, I just pop up on screen.

(09:16):
She loved me. I actually went back to go meet
her daughter because her daughter didn't want to be like yeah,
So I end up going back to meet her daughter,
and it was it was good that I went to
go meet her daughter because you know what I'm saying,
I love Carla B and I definite you know what
I'm saying, like what she do. I like her work.
I like defected. She do things that you know what

(09:40):
I'm saying that people could really like be comfortable in.
You know what I'm saying, when you become that artist
and you want to be comfort in what you want
to do, how you want to do it, you know
what I'm saying, How you want your stage, perform it
to be, how you want to be set up. You know,
it's a lot of work. Yeah, it looks like a

(10:01):
lot of work. When I think that, I was like, WHOA,
Like it's a lot of work. Like they built the stage,
how they built it, and then it turns out like
the stay was bid but it had like the lights
going around it. I said, Oh yeah, they had.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's a lot of work getting ready for yours.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, that's a lot of ready.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
For your tour.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Were you gonna say, I was gonna say, you met
you were on stage with Cardi B. You met a
ton of celebs. You have a big fan base. What
would be your dream collaboration in terms of music with.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
M I won't even lie if it's gonna have to
be Jenny Jackson, Okay, and time, Yeah, you know what
I mean. I mean, I love Jenny Jason. Jenny Jenson,
she she she ins found me a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, and like Michael Jackson too. Do you see the movie?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I love? What do you think of? Did you see
the movie? The movie and want to rid of give it?
Was giving it? But I don't think it was given
like real Michael. You know what I'm saying. I would
rather give a real Michael. I mean, I'm you know
what I'm saying. I'm thought for you know what I'm saying,

(11:15):
Genet brother Loft. But for me to even see what
Michael have done and for me to even see the
crime one so crazy about him. He either rid of
an icon, Yeah, for sure, he ridd of an icon
for real. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
No, I mean it's ridiculous the things that Michael Jackson
has accomplished.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
But it's like now that people is like making moves
about him and stuff like that, that death inspirement. But
it's like I don't know how they how they even,
you know what I'm saying, worked out? I don't know.
And it's hard.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
There's a lot of things they had to leave out
of it too. So they're talking about a part two already.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
What that part too? Yeah, that's just.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Working on it because you can't fit all that in
one movie.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean you can't because it is like you know what,
it takes hours to record filming, you know what I'm saying.
Whatever they want you to do, then you gotta do it.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
What would a movie about your life look like? Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
When movie? When movie do I really want to come
out with? I think I do want to come out
with like getting to know like the real Chamar Like
it's like a documentary, but I want them to know
the real me and truth.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
For me, I feel like there's a lot of things
that you don't talk about.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
From yeah, because I'd be like, I'm a picey. So we,
like you know what I'm saying, we be in our
share like we don't talk a lot about a lot
of stuff because you know what I'm saying, Sometimes when
you talk about stuff is like you and spreading and stuff,
and I get real emotional. I get really emotional, I
start crying and all it like I'm a real cropat,

(13:03):
but I'm gonna hold you, okay. So but other than that,
it's like, it's a lot of things that you know
what I'm saying, I do you want to talk about?
But it's like I don't be wanting to talk about
it because I don't want to feel like people or
I don't want people to feel like they don't you
know what I'm saying, coming out fit them in a
real way or coming out fitting them in a wrong way.

(13:24):
You know what I'm saying. You know they say some
people don't like the truth, but they gonna have to
like the truth, you know what I'm saying. That's what
a lot of people don't be liking. Like if you
don't tell them the true, what you don't express how
you feel, they'll never know what's going on with you.
They will never know what's wrong with you. They will
never know how you feel. They will never know what's

(13:45):
going through your head, what's going through your mind. You
just you know what I'm saying, You just sitting there thinking,
you know what I'm saying, You might be going through
something that's you know what I'm saying sad or you
know what I'm saying, it's just a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You've had quite a journey.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I feel like it's really inspirational to see how you've
gotten to where you got to today, just because we've
gotten a chance to see you deal with like finally
getting the right management team, getting your financial affairs in order, moving, yeah,
moving into a new place, you know, getting.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
The music congratulations.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Wait wait what your second home? I know that's okay,
I mean that's a big deal though, right, And a
lot of this stuff also has been done through music.
But what I also like is that it is very
It is like you said, who you are. You're not
pretending to be somebody else. And that's what people are drawn.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
To you about. Is that Shamar is really you know,
this is who I am. Take me as I am.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
And the way that the kids are really drawn to you,
I feel like that helps them too, because sometimes kids.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And that's why I say, like to me, like I
don't want to fit on them because you know me
bad there. I used to like do all crazy and stuff. Well,
the winds make up all it, and me personally, I'm
not trying to think that for the kids, you know,
what I'm saying. I want to you know what I'm saying,
be doing role model for men and women, not just men.

(15:13):
You know what I mean. Everybody's gonna know like, Okay,
I'm a boy. But then again it's like they know,
for a failure, I'm just me. But other than that,
it's like with that, I just want to be a
role model for the man and the women. If I
want to be a role model for the man, okay, cool,
Now I'm gonna see what style I want to do.
See what you know what I'm saying. What's the style
that I want to do? What's the style that can

(15:34):
I do? You know what I'm saying, because that's what
I like doing. I like to do both, not just one,
but both, you know what I mean? So versatile?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean I see your pickup lines?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
What what are some of your pick up lines?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Uh? I put some never clock that? What else?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
If my well listen, I want I do want to
ask you when you were just talking about being a
role model. I don't know if this is true or not,
but I think I saw that when you turn thirty,
you want to kind of like you wanted to with
your personal life. You don't want to you don't want
to identify with LGBTQ plus anymore. Did I make that up?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Or was that? You know? I mean, I'm still like
with the LGBQ, but in time, I don't want it
to be like you know what I'm saying, I wanted
to be based off just it don't matter what you is,
It don't matter what you call yourself. You feel me

(16:37):
because a lot of a lot of a lot of
our community be getting bad and it really be sick men,
like because people have to understand and realize that you
got some people that that're cool with the LGBQ, you
know what I'm saying, and you don't have to do

(16:58):
anything and try them nothing. You feel me. Now, if
they want to do stuff on their then death on them.
You let them do that. But other than that, I
just feel like, you know what I'm saying, gay bass
and stuff like that, it's just not right because it
really made people commit suicide and do it. It made
people want to commit suicide because they can't even be

(17:20):
who they are, They can't even live in a truth
because of some fact that somebody have to gay bass
them or talk bad about them or call them a punk,
hard fag or you know what I mean, and they
just be sicken. And that's why I don't. I don't
be like me and a person of common meal fan,
I'm gonna call you out on your ship. I'm just
gonna be real with you. I'm gonna call you outright.

(17:45):
If I know for a fact that you called me
what you called them me, I'm wanna call you out
on it. You know what I'm saying. And some people
they don't be liking it because they be like, oh no,
you stand up here trying me your own roll right
that I ain't saying you wrong like that, But don't
fill up here and trying to call from out of
a fab or gay because of the fact that they

(18:06):
are who they are. Respect people how you want to be. Respect,
Treat people how you want to be treated. You feel
me human, treat them locker human, and they'll treat you
locker human. I even got a fan without saying treatment
locker human. And I'm gonna treat you like a lady. Okay,
that's the whole thing right now. On to this day.

(18:27):
And I came up with that thing and with viral.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah I remember that, so and listen you on magazine cover.
So congratulations disruption magazine period. Yeah, so congratulations on that.
You've been doing so much now I know you recently.
Also when you went to go film for a Bad
Boys season three, you got your passport for the first time.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You know, you gotta get deaf hands for Yeah, you
gotta get deaf hands.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
For the country for the first time, for the first.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
For the first time, I would say it was it
was my first time on out country. I've never been
out of the country and the day of my life. Okay,
this is my first. That was my first time even
going to Dominican and it's like with Atlanta and Dominican
it's different. Yeah, I bet like even when I went

(19:23):
to the men, I'm like, oh no, this ain't that's thing.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Did you learn in Spanish?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I didn't even get shanned to learn those Spanish. Now.
I did have one girl there, you know what I'm saying,
linked up with me. She brought his other sister, okay
or whatever, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And what do you mean linked up?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Meaning like I was walking for the store, she was driving,
she saw me at the you know what thing in
the hotel she can and you know what I'm saying,
talking to me and gave me her number whatever, and
she was just being a little freaky girl.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh so you was being freaky too, Yeah, I was
on man.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know what I mean is that on the show.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's not gonna be on the show.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, it's not gonna be on the show.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, it's exclusive.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
But under there, it's like, you know, she brought her
flip or whatever, so.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
They might be a little shamar running around.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Into r soon and I ain't even that. It just
feels fair, I end up, you know what I'm saying.
Because even I even told my manager, my manager, it
was like I would have paid for that. You want
to charge you two hundred dollars and you know their
money is like different from always.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So it's like I'm like, you paid, okay, But I.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Did tell her, like you know what I'm saying, I
don't have wanted you. I ain't want to. I don't
have wanted you.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know what I mean, Oh my gosh, she wouldn't
have charged you. You'd have been all right.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, if she wouldn't never charge me, it would
have been okay. But then again, I don't have no
problem paying. But it's just like and it's time. I
ain't want to pay, you know what I mean? The spin,
she wasn't really in the mood to do anything. She
was just in the mood toddle and go to sleep.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
You didn't cuddle with her and go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I was asking in bed with her and hustlester, no sex.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, a three way cuddle, that's right.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Are you gonna put out a full album?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I am working on that. My my my fans have
been askeding for that. So my team is actually working
on that album for me. I won't know to hell
the album because I know the album is gonna be
so dope. I did just imagine. I did just vigeted.
I could just see it.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know when you think about like the success of Friday,
that song went crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And defmo did Friday is going so right? And then
out here on top of that, they came up with
it dead. So I just learned to dance. I had to, like,
you know what I'm saying. They came up with it,
and they came up with it, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I gotta learn that. I know how to do a little,

(22:10):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
But I don't know how to.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Right, but you know what I'm saying, I got it,
and uh it was good that they did come up
with the dance to Friday and Friday is going dumb
crazy right now?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, and you can't make that happen like the people
just left. There are people who do whole like clips
on TikTok just there. What do they call themselves?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Chamart? What do they call themselves?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Uh? Just how it be when I when I'm like
shamar or just how I be when I you know
what I'm saying, it mean I was type the word
that they come up with because I'm not gonna lie.
I look at myself on tip top every time, like
if I'm doing something, if I know that I'm performing,
I'm doing the show or anything like our rily look

(23:02):
myself for I don't look at nobody but myself. I
don't know why, but I just look at myself, like
to feel like what work have I been doing? Okay? Cool?
Now I'm looking at my now I feel what I
gotta do? Okay, I did this, Okay, that was perfect.
Then you gotta the next day you're doing it now,
It's like you know, I think you're just all over

(23:24):
the place. So it's like, you know what I'm saying,
it's fun to me. Yeah, to me, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Now it's going up, it's going crazy now. Also, let's
talk about ways that people have spotted you out. One
of the most viral things that gas station in Chicago. Oh,
I tell you, I watched that so many times. Real
because you didn't even realize the situation. But the fact

(23:52):
that you stopped a potential like going to see the
ops murder. He was so excited to see you, like
a way to go.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
You're not about a thief. Chicago is I love Chicago.
Shout out to Chicago, you feel me. But Chicago, I've been.
I've been to Chicago like three times, and up there
it's like it's Thirtain area that you can't really go
in now, the old Block. You can't go there because

(24:22):
that's where you know what I'm saying, recipes to keep going.
But you know what I mean, that's where he that's
where his pitch is at. And that time it was
like it was me Findy. We had went up there
to Chicago and then somehow somewhere all the kids just
coming from in the gate, like how they got the

(24:44):
gate now to the point where people can't even walk
in the gate. You have to either have a car
or somebody would have to buzze you in. But under there,
it's like them kids came out. It was so amazing,
Like them kids came out. There was two they was
trying to lyricate over the gate, like come through the
gate to get Yeah. So it was like it really

(25:10):
you know what I'm saying, It really just put a
smile on my face because I always tell myself, like,
you inspired not just the United States, but you inspired
the whole world to you know what I'm saying, uplift
they stuff where they're going through something are when they
got something going on, or a situation going on, or

(25:32):
if they said or something, and you know what I'm saying,
they look at you, You uplifting people. And you know
what I'm saying, building people couple me like to be
they self and you know what I'm saying, do what
they gotta do.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
When is the first time you realized that this was
gonna be a way for you.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
To really make money. It's one thing to be online,
go viral and influence people. It's a whole other thing
to make money from it. When did that start to
happen for you?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
It started happening when I you know what I'm saying,
blew up on social media. Now it's the ground don't
pay they dy you know what I'm saying. Now, I'm
really paid it because it's like I would say, TK
do pay. That's why I don't be on that because
I know it'd be kids on there, you know what
I mean. And it's like I have to watch myself

(26:24):
when I'm added people. If I'm added kids, it's like
I don't be wanting them to be on my pay
if their moment is not around, I'd read it for
their mom to be around to even be on my
pay because it's like, you know what I'm sing. You
gotta understand, it's too much going on out here. Too
many people out here literally molest the kids, just being

(26:45):
real molest the kids, you know what I'm saying, and
rape the kids and stuff like that, and I don't
really you know what I'm saying, Like I don't want
people to pay their is I'm that type of person,
you know what I mean. I just want to be
inspired to the kids and put good encouragement into the kids.

(27:07):
You know what I mean, you don't have to be
like nobody. You can just be yourself, you know what
I mean. You got kids that's growing up nowadays. They're
acting real bad. They're getting grown, getting too fast. And
you know what I'm saying, I he'll want a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And what else?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
You got the young boys out here doing what they
daddy doing, you know what I mean. And I feel
like that. That's another reason why I don't think that
I'm ready for a kid yet, because if I'm gonna
be ready for a kid, I'm gonna have to raise
my kid, Yes you do. I'm gonna have to raise him,

(27:46):
put him in school, make sure he goes to school,
getting school work, and make sure he you don't think
it whatever he needs. But don't get out here and
feel like you could just hang around anybody and they
get you involved to the wrong stuff. And you know
what I'm saying, Because it's on the two ways, it's

(28:07):
either in the ground or jail. Well, yeah, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know, you have your own relationship drama. What have
you learned from that? When you think about who you
see yourself with in the future.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right now, single, right now, I don't I don't really me. No, man,
I really don't need to focus on me, right, you
know what I mean? Because I do like I don't
been through a lot with these boys. Yes you have,
you know what I mean. I don't be through a
lot with these boys. These boys don't you know what
I'm saying. They don't really. They just only come around

(28:46):
because of who I am. And you know what I'm saying.
They come around and they be wanting to based I
want money, They want me to take care of them. No, nigga,
take care of me, you know what I mean? Are
we gonna take care of each other? Meet me away?
If you can't meet me haway, I don't want you to.
What's your next what's your ideal man look like? Or not?

(29:06):
You know? Just what are you because it could be
because obviously.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
He having threesomes with no you know, couple threesomes? What's
your ideal next person look like?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
What are you looking forward? You know?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
To me? I'm just right now until I find the
right person. I already find the right person that really
a just coming around for like money or to use
you or take advantage of you. I rather have a
person that could meet me haway. Or you know what
I'm saying, I can meet them hallway, we can meet

(29:39):
each other hallway, and we can do it together. But
instead of just you know what I'm saying, coming around
using me, take an advantage of me, I'm not gonna
like that, you know what I'm saying, because I don't
got time to be taking care of a grown man,
especially if I'm grown myself.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Right, what was your child What was your childhood like?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, my childhood was bad. I used to get into fights.
I used to always just it was just a lot.
I was a bad kid when I was young. Now,
I ain't gonna lie. When I was in school, I
was getting buddied. And you know what I'm saying, I
used to always get bullied in school. So when I

(30:18):
get bullied in school, it's like, I don't be liking that.
When I was young, I either came home I was
daring about to commit suicide because of that, because of
me being like, buddy, I don't you know what I'm saying,
I don't be liking that. Like my mama had to
Liria talk to me and tell me, like, don't give

(30:40):
up on yourself because of what other people think about you.
Are how older people feel about you, you know what
I mean? And I even told my mama because I
ain't even tell my mama that I gay, but I
came out and told her that I was gay, and
she knew. She just wanted me to have respect for it.
And don't be out here just widening out like that, right,

(31:03):
you know what I mean? So, yeah, I used to
be I used to be a big kid. I used
to be going through a lot, fighting with kids, fighting
with friends, and it's like me and that person could
be friends, but it's like we, you know, stop being friends.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Has anybody from back then ever hit you up, like
on social media to try to talk to you or
apologize or.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
I had m M A couple of them, but you
know they do, you.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Know what I mean. They didn't want to come back.
When you're doing something better, when you're doing something good,
it's like you ain't want me back then, No, don't
try to want me down, Like, no, it's all different
me now, it's a whole new level. Hello. Hello.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Now, so you say people are doing clock it wrong?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, because this is tweaking.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
This is tweaking this clocky when this is clocking the
middle finger with it.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, this clock it this tweaking. See what they do
there they be thinking, oh no it's clocky. No did
is clocky? Just tweaking? So when you do stuff like this,
that mean you're tweaking.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
All right, so jasmine being tweaking.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
But if you got a clock it clocky, Okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Thinking about so many you said a lot of trends though,
right where people are going and taking that and run
with it.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
How flattering is that for you? Or do you sometimes
feel like give me some credit.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
To me? It written on you. It It don't even
bother me. I can't even really state anything about it,
but it dude, like let me know, like, oh yeah,
you don't stay trains, you don't you got a air
right doing it? You got to air right doing it.
It's a lot of stuff like even when I think
I was how old was that when I did that dance?

(32:58):
It was on top of a girl, but it was
like on the outside on the garage roof, and I
just went up there and I was just like, you
know what, maybe I should just do that a two
step there and see how everybody is gonna you know
what I'm saying, And everybody's gonna catch on to it,
and by the time you know it, it was like
everybody came on to it quick, right, So I'm like, dang,

(33:21):
Like they really just come on to something like that.
So it's like every time I come up with a dance,
they'll catch on to it. Yeah, they do, like and
don't matter what day is, I'll do I could be
in the mood, I could just come up with it
then and they'll just learn it right in there. So
I love it. I just don't inspire people.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know, it feels like you absolutely love what you do.
You know what and what is great? Like I said,
you love what you do, but you do all of
these things still remaining to to who you are. Has
anybody ever tried to make you change who you are
or said, oh, maybe you need to do this differently.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Or I did have like a couple of people trying
to make me like change from being you know what
I'm saying gay to being screened out. You're like, no,
I'm not here to do that because if you think
about it, if you change for them, then you're not
rid of yourself anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, I thought you you like either.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I mean, I do like either. But then again, it's
like I'm true to myself, you know what I mean,
And I got to tell people like, I'm not gonna
change for nobody. I know that people might, you know
what I'm saying, try to get me to like females
or whatever. But I'm not ridden into females, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Only to cuddles.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, I'll cuddle with you. You know what I'm saying and
stuff like that. But as far as you know what
I mean, I don't think I'm ready for a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, big sexy kind of showing how your moves are.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I don't think I'm ready for like a girlfriend. Yeah,
but you know and.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
You don't want one, So that's fine.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Do your thing because people be like, yeah, we already
we already know you don't like girl. We already know
you don't. You don't know what I'm saying, like they
mean on it maybe knowing it everything, and I'm just
playing like and which is I do with It's like,
I don't I don't you know what.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't make it sound like something you don't like.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't know how I'm gonna feel.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
And how it's gonna feel it might be awful. Yeah, right,
awful because I know I don't want anything. I don't
want to I get it. Well, listen, is there anything
that you want to tell us about that on the way,
because I know you've been doing music, you've been in
the studio, you've been performing, and also, like we said,

(35:33):
you're gonna be on Zeus and we're looking forward to that,
and you're on the cover of Disruption magazine.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did we miss something that you have going on? Is
there any little things you could get?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean I can say, stay tuned to the average,
stay tuned to bed West. He's the three on the
up from here. You know, I'm documentary. Yeah, yeah, it's
being Mark after Little One Great Way.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
It's way up. Thank you so much, Bigca. We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
M hm.