January 23, 2025 • 14 mins
Award-winning talk show host Tamron Hall dives into dressing your kids properly for the weather and overall preparedness as a parent (and why it's so elusive), and extolls the virtues of the preschool jacket flip (IYKYK).
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is parent Data. I'm Emily Oster. Hi Tammer and Hall.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi Emily Ost.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So in case anyone doesn't know who you are, can
you tell us who you are, what you do, and
what kind of children you have?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I am Tammeron Hall, who happens to be the daughter
of Mary Newton and the amazing step daughter to Clarence Newton,
Senior Master Sergeant in the Army. I am also a
two time Emmy Award winning talk show host, and I
have one kid who is super awesome. I'm his biggest fan.
His name happens to be Moses, and his sister pet
(00:57):
is Exodus. So clearly I like the Bible from time
on the time.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
What kind of pet is Exodus?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
She is a burna doodle, oh who is three years old,
and prior to her, I had a Chihuahua. Pretty much
my entire life, I've had small dogs and I lost
my dog during like twenty twenty, the year twenty twenty,
and I decided to get my kid a dog because
I've always had pets.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've had chickens, dogs, ducks, geese, you name it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I grew up in Texas, so there wasn't anything that
we didn't try to domesticate. And so having a kid
in New York City, who my biggest fear I was
probably befriending a rat, said let's get an animal. And
so we have a bird named Josephine Burger and we
have the dog Exodus, who's his dog.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So it's a carnival around here.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's amazing. My kids want a dog. And we told
my daughter that she could have a dog when she well,
we told her when she was that when her brother
was three, we would talk about getting a dog. But
fortunately we said we'll discuss it when he's three. Now
he's almost ten, and we are every year she's like,
have about now, and we're like, we've discussed, but we've decided.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No. Oh' that's a masterful. See my kid didn't even
know he wanted to talk.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But I would tell you certain things are just ingrained
in me. I believe you should play a sport, even
if you're not good at the sport. I believe you
should have a I believe you should have a pet
because it just teaches you a level of compassion that
I don't unless it's a bird, which my bird is
a different head case.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But I think that even.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
A cat or something that reminds you constantly of the
potential innocence of life, because even a kid at some
point recognizes that life is an innocent but a pet
in a proper environment always has the innocence of life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I have snails.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't know what they think they do.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, I can tell you they think every day is
a good day because they wake up.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
They wake up and something spraying water on them and
they have let.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Us come on. It's like that. I can't believe me.
What is there? Come on?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
All right, Tameron? What's your late night panic?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Google?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
My late night panic? Google lately? Oh my late night
the last one. I'll be very honest.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'll give you the last one, because this is the
give me last one.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I live in New York City. It's thirty degrees late
night panic. I was underdressing my child for the weather.
They had a field trip. And I know that sounds
tiny to some people, but it's one of those things
that no matter how many books on how to raise
a kid and all these great things. And we just
had Jonathan Hyde on my talk show and the whole
digital download. I've never found a book on how to
(03:38):
dress a kid in the winter or in the summer,
and it's I sent my kid out with a little
white muscle shirt underneath, and then a thermal shirt and
then another shirt, and then I sent him to with
two pairs of shoes, one winter style shoe and one
regular sneaker, two different pairs of socks, all in a
(04:00):
ziplog bag with a note attached to it. And I
still called his teacher this morning and said, if his
feet get hot, can you remind him that I sent
him with sneakers so that he could change, only for
her to say, we cancel the field trip.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh god, you tell me that won't keep you upen night.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You tell me where you find that answer to how
to dress your kid in the winter, because they're articles
and I googled, and it's not a straight line you ask,
so you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
There's no straight line. People.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Some people say kids run warmer, some people say they
run cooler, But there's no webinar, no webmar indeed that
answers it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Your son is like five, it's five going on fifty,
and he's warm today.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And but what what you. Have you yet encountered the
part of this where your kid refuses to wear temperature
appropriate clothing.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I've only encountered the desire for naked. He's like, he
doesn't like go like yeah, He's like, what do I
need this for? No, but it's not. He doesn't like hats.
But I finally got him to appreciate hats. He's a
lot of hair, really big curly hair, and so I
he's cool with that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He does.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh, I have resistance on finger gloves versus mittens. He's
kind of lazy, so he just wants to do the
mitten thing. And then I say, no, you need the
fingers because that allows you to, you know, climb, and no, no, no,
and he said, this is frustrating.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And I'm like, but it's not. Just count your fingers,
open your hand, slide in. But no, not that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And he's very proud that he does the I'm not
sure if you're familiar with the upside down coat flip
where you put your own coat on.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's the greatest. That's the greatest.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I remember when my kids learned that in preschool and
I was like, oh my gosh. The people who teach
pre school are the world's greatest geniuses.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But I need to know that's will keep me up tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I need to google when that became like a learned thing,
because I didn't learn to put my coat on that way.
We were like spinning around trying to put our arms
and you're falling down. And then your mom gets frustrated,
say just put the coat on this way. You know
all of that, but no, my kid to your point,
just as you came home, uh preschool, and he the
(06:12):
coat was on the floor and I'm like, pick your coat,
and I'm putting my coat on.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm like what And then he flips the coat and
I'm like what who created this this is?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And by the way, it is not conventional wisdom because
we were in Texas for Thanksgiving and he did it
in front of one of his cousins who's like twenty
and the cousin's like, wait, what what are they?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
What is the coolest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I'm like, I know exactly, it's amazing, But I would
love to know when that light became.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Who came up.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And the law like it was passed around every pre
k kid, you know, teacher and they all got the
memo it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you think that you worry about the way your
kid is dressed because you're worried that he will be
hot or cold, or because you think that the like
his teacher will be like, oh, I can't believe he
Tamori Center kid without nine pairs of socks. What kind
of parenting is that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think it's because I'm always worried that he won't
be prepared, you know. I mean it's so for example,
you know anything in life. You know, the other day
he said, somebody there was a scuffle in Lego Robotics,
and he said, you know, the kid kicked him. And
I'm like, oh, you know, that was my first like
(07:26):
moment blah, And I said, so then we we we
do a rehearsal of if a kid kicks you, what
you do, and we go through this whole you know
thing of they're gonna do this, and you'll do this,
and you'll say this, and you'll say this, and so
it's it's it's I think the worry of them being
in the world unprepared or be and so that's what
(07:46):
it is. I don't I don't think his teacher would judge.
She's amazing and I've seen her also not properly warmly
dressed that I'm going to give her some advice on scarves.
But she's like thirty year old young teacher and it's
called liked put a scarfne.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You're gonna get anment? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I think it's, to be honest with you, I think
it's the fear that whatever your kid faces, whether they
are two or twenty two or thirty two, that somehow
you have not prepared them for the world. Yeah, it
starts with weather. It starts with peer to peer interaction.
You know, maybe you don't get on the team or
(08:22):
your first heartbreak. I mean prior to having my son,
which you know I refer to myself as a late
to the party parents.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I was forty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
My brother and his wife have They were younger parents,
and a great portion of my nephew who's now twenty
seven and his sister's twenty two. The other is now eighteen,
that's fifteen, but the two older kids. A great part
of my journey was helping my brother and his wife
because they were still getting their footing and they were
in their early twenties when they became pregnant with their.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Kid and got married very young.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And so Isaiah, who ty seven, is like my first
child truly. He's first vacations with me, first being everything
he's ever done, calls me first about everything. And his
sister is the same way, but he definitely is and
I very much. So remember he's going to kill me
for this, but his very first heartbreak and he called me.
He was in college and he said, you know, this
(09:14):
situation happened and he was sad, and I wanted to
get on the plane and knock on her door and say.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Let's talk about this. Let's be sensible here. He's a
great guy. A mistake, you're making a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But pretty woman, A huge, a big mistake, you know.
I remember this is how corny I am.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
When he said to me, he's about nine or ten
and he said, Aunt tammern, I just want to stay
a kid forever. And he was just saying something and
it hit me in a different way, you know, because
when a kid says I just want to stay a
kid forever, You're like, yes, you do you know? Because
I in a flash all of the things that he
would face and will face, and that we all face
(09:57):
and you know, are around the corner, and it just
I remember sobbing, like just crying because I that that
response meant something so different to me than to him.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean I think it's it's so interesting and light.
You said you had John hight On this sort of
feeling of like kind of wanting wanting to give the independence,
Like what does it mean to prepare somebody to not
just not to like to prepare them for a time
when you won't pack their socks? You know, he's not
like the whole thing of parenting is like to prepare
(10:30):
your kid to remember their own socks.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, and preparing your bird to fly.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
We we have a house in like this little rural
area and there's this mama bird. And this sounds like
some kind of like a little house on the prairie story,
but it's true.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
She comes back every year and she lays.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Her eggs right in this awning that I have and
elsewhere three years in a row. I don't know if
she's the same bird or she just spread the word
as a safe tree are getting. She's like this lady
Camvert Hall has the best daycare ever.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Nice. This awning is amazing it's free. She doesn't close
the awning. I mean, like I let them hold my
aunting hostage. I don't open it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Clothes we're like swelping in the heat, and I'm like, girl,
it's yours, but you know it's it's we know, like
the Mama bird and Mama Bear, all of these things
that we talk about, this protection of your offspring, and
it is the biggest part is preparing them.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And it looks different. I mean I grew up, as
I said, in rural Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I look at my son's life sometimes and well
he takes the bus van. Now he's so proud of him.
So this year he takes a van school. But he
was walking last year. And we live in the heart
of New York City. And I had this this moment
of crisis because the corner we walk past every day
(11:53):
happens to be a corner that is heavily populated by
people experiencing homelessness. I don't know if there's a shelter near,
but I never found out exactly why this particular corner
and it's just fourteenth and Fifth.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I mean, it's not like a ran right in middle
heart of New York City.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This one corner and we would walk past people, and
I didn't know quite how to have this conversation. First,
he's four three or four years old, And I said,
God is living in New York City preparing my child
to be a more compassionate person or a person who
sees a person sleeping on the street as usual. And
(12:28):
the reason why I bring that up again is not,
you know, I'm on some high horse kick about oh
what kind of kid am I raising? But it was
so different from my childhood and that I would have.
And by the way, not just because I was born
in nineteen seventy. None of my you know, family members
see that on the regular where we live, you don't.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You see other.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stripes and struggles of course, of course, but not that
particular thing. So as you're preparing your child, as we're
talking about, for whatever life presents, life doesn't that map
is not the same for all of us. But yet
we all have this opportunity at some point potentially to
encounter each other. So we come with different skill sets.
(13:07):
So I'm trying to allow him to have the skill
sets that I had as a child, growing up, a
very free child. I ran down the street at all
kinds of things that. I mean, my favorite memories were
me and my cousin like crawling under the house because
this cat had had a baby. We're gonna get the
babies and raise them as our own because we're like
feral as a cat.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Now we know where the bird story is coming.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
My whole childho was rescuing and homeless cats and things.
But but now having my son and trying to give
him a little bit of what I had, and also
the skill set that he has now that he'll need
if he continues to live in New York. But yeah,
it's all about preparing them and going back to the
core of what you asked.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The thing that kept me up was the Google thing
with with the coat.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And it might sound like watch not to put our kids,
but it is the fear of not having them prepared.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I think it's such a great illustration that these things
that seem like small fears are all kind of a
part of some bigger thing, which is just like it's
hard to parent and it's scary to try to do it,
to try to do it right. It is Tameron, thank
you for being here
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Welcome, Thank you for having me
This is parent Data. I'm Emily Oster. Hi Tammer and Hall.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi Emily Ost.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So in case anyone doesn't know who you are, can
you tell us who you are, what you do, and
what kind of children you have?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I am Tammeron Hall, who happens to be the daughter
of Mary Newton and the amazing step daughter to Clarence Newton,
Senior Master Sergeant in the Army. I am also a
two time Emmy Award winning talk show host, and I
have one kid who is super awesome. I'm his biggest fan.
His name happens to be Moses, and his sister pet
(00:57):
is Exodus. So clearly I like the Bible from time
on the time.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
What kind of pet is Exodus?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
She is a burna doodle, oh who is three years old,
and prior to her, I had a Chihuahua. Pretty much
my entire life, I've had small dogs and I lost
my dog during like twenty twenty, the year twenty twenty,
and I decided to get my kid a dog because
I've always had pets.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've had chickens, dogs, ducks, geese, you name it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I grew up in Texas, so there wasn't anything that
we didn't try to domesticate. And so having a kid
in New York City, who my biggest fear I was
probably befriending a rat, said let's get an animal. And
so we have a bird named Josephine Burger and we
have the dog Exodus, who's his dog.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So it's a carnival around here.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's amazing. My kids want a dog. And we told
my daughter that she could have a dog when she well,
we told her when she was that when her brother
was three, we would talk about getting a dog. But
fortunately we said we'll discuss it when he's three. Now
he's almost ten, and we are every year she's like,
have about now, and we're like, we've discussed, but we've decided.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No. Oh' that's a masterful. See my kid didn't even
know he wanted to talk.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But I would tell you certain things are just ingrained
in me. I believe you should play a sport, even
if you're not good at the sport. I believe you
should have a I believe you should have a pet
because it just teaches you a level of compassion that
I don't unless it's a bird, which my bird is
a different head case.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But I think that even.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
A cat or something that reminds you constantly of the
potential innocence of life, because even a kid at some
point recognizes that life is an innocent but a pet
in a proper environment always has the innocence of life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I have snails.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't know what they think they do.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, I can tell you they think every day is
a good day because they wake up.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
They wake up and something spraying water on them and
they have let.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Us come on. It's like that. I can't believe me.
What is there? Come on?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
All right, Tameron? What's your late night panic?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Google?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
My late night panic? Google lately? Oh my late night
the last one. I'll be very honest.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'll give you the last one, because this is the
give me last one.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I live in New York City. It's thirty degrees late
night panic. I was underdressing my child for the weather.
They had a field trip. And I know that sounds
tiny to some people, but it's one of those things
that no matter how many books on how to raise
a kid and all these great things. And we just
had Jonathan Hyde on my talk show and the whole
digital download. I've never found a book on how to
(03:38):
dress a kid in the winter or in the summer,
and it's I sent my kid out with a little
white muscle shirt underneath, and then a thermal shirt and
then another shirt, and then I sent him to with
two pairs of shoes, one winter style shoe and one
regular sneaker, two different pairs of socks, all in a
(04:00):
ziplog bag with a note attached to it. And I
still called his teacher this morning and said, if his
feet get hot, can you remind him that I sent
him with sneakers so that he could change, only for
her to say, we cancel the field trip.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh god, you tell me that won't keep you upen night.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You tell me where you find that answer to how
to dress your kid in the winter, because they're articles
and I googled, and it's not a straight line you ask,
so you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
There's no straight line. People.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Some people say kids run warmer, some people say they
run cooler, But there's no webinar, no webmar indeed that
answers it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Your son is like five, it's five going on fifty,
and he's warm today.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And but what what you. Have you yet encountered the
part of this where your kid refuses to wear temperature
appropriate clothing.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I've only encountered the desire for naked. He's like, he
doesn't like go like yeah, He's like, what do I
need this for? No, but it's not. He doesn't like hats.
But I finally got him to appreciate hats. He's a
lot of hair, really big curly hair, and so I
he's cool with that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He does.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh, I have resistance on finger gloves versus mittens. He's
kind of lazy, so he just wants to do the
mitten thing. And then I say, no, you need the
fingers because that allows you to, you know, climb, and no, no, no,
and he said, this is frustrating.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And I'm like, but it's not. Just count your fingers,
open your hand, slide in. But no, not that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And he's very proud that he does the I'm not
sure if you're familiar with the upside down coat flip
where you put your own coat on.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's the greatest. That's the greatest.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I remember when my kids learned that in preschool and
I was like, oh my gosh. The people who teach
pre school are the world's greatest geniuses.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But I need to know that's will keep me up tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I need to google when that became like a learned thing,
because I didn't learn to put my coat on that way.
We were like spinning around trying to put our arms
and you're falling down. And then your mom gets frustrated,
say just put the coat on this way. You know
all of that, but no, my kid to your point,
just as you came home, uh preschool, and he the
(06:12):
coat was on the floor and I'm like, pick your coat,
and I'm putting my coat on.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm like what And then he flips the coat and
I'm like what who created this this is?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And by the way, it is not conventional wisdom because
we were in Texas for Thanksgiving and he did it
in front of one of his cousins who's like twenty
and the cousin's like, wait, what what are they?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
What is the coolest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I'm like, I know exactly, it's amazing, But I would
love to know when that light became.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Who came up.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And the law like it was passed around every pre
k kid, you know, teacher and they all got the
memo it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you think that you worry about the way your
kid is dressed because you're worried that he will be
hot or cold, or because you think that the like
his teacher will be like, oh, I can't believe he
Tamori Center kid without nine pairs of socks. What kind
of parenting is that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think it's because I'm always worried that he won't
be prepared, you know. I mean it's so for example,
you know anything in life. You know, the other day
he said, somebody there was a scuffle in Lego Robotics,
and he said, you know, the kid kicked him. And
I'm like, oh, you know, that was my first like
(07:26):
moment blah, And I said, so then we we we
do a rehearsal of if a kid kicks you, what
you do, and we go through this whole you know
thing of they're gonna do this, and you'll do this,
and you'll say this, and you'll say this, and so
it's it's it's I think the worry of them being
in the world unprepared or be and so that's what
(07:46):
it is. I don't I don't think his teacher would judge.
She's amazing and I've seen her also not properly warmly
dressed that I'm going to give her some advice on scarves.
But she's like thirty year old young teacher and it's
called liked put a scarfne.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You're gonna get anment? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I think it's, to be honest with you, I think
it's the fear that whatever your kid faces, whether they
are two or twenty two or thirty two, that somehow
you have not prepared them for the world. Yeah, it
starts with weather. It starts with peer to peer interaction.
You know, maybe you don't get on the team or
(08:22):
your first heartbreak. I mean prior to having my son,
which you know I refer to myself as a late
to the party parents.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I was forty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
My brother and his wife have They were younger parents,
and a great portion of my nephew who's now twenty
seven and his sister's twenty two. The other is now eighteen,
that's fifteen, but the two older kids. A great part
of my journey was helping my brother and his wife
because they were still getting their footing and they were
in their early twenties when they became pregnant with their.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Kid and got married very young.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And so Isaiah, who ty seven, is like my first
child truly. He's first vacations with me, first being everything
he's ever done, calls me first about everything. And his
sister is the same way, but he definitely is and
I very much. So remember he's going to kill me
for this, but his very first heartbreak and he called me.
He was in college and he said, you know, this
(09:14):
situation happened and he was sad, and I wanted to
get on the plane and knock on her door and say.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Let's talk about this. Let's be sensible here. He's a
great guy. A mistake, you're making a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But pretty woman, A huge, a big mistake, you know.
I remember this is how corny I am.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
When he said to me, he's about nine or ten
and he said, Aunt tammern, I just want to stay
a kid forever. And he was just saying something and
it hit me in a different way, you know, because
when a kid says I just want to stay a
kid forever, You're like, yes, you do you know? Because
I in a flash all of the things that he
would face and will face, and that we all face
(09:57):
and you know, are around the corner, and it just
I remember sobbing, like just crying because I that that
response meant something so different to me than to him.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean I think it's it's so interesting and light.
You said you had John hight On this sort of
feeling of like kind of wanting wanting to give the independence,
Like what does it mean to prepare somebody to not
just not to like to prepare them for a time
when you won't pack their socks? You know, he's not
like the whole thing of parenting is like to prepare
(10:30):
your kid to remember their own socks.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, and preparing your bird to fly.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
We we have a house in like this little rural
area and there's this mama bird. And this sounds like
some kind of like a little house on the prairie story,
but it's true.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
She comes back every year and she lays.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Her eggs right in this awning that I have and
elsewhere three years in a row. I don't know if
she's the same bird or she just spread the word
as a safe tree are getting. She's like this lady
Camvert Hall has the best daycare ever.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Nice. This awning is amazing it's free. She doesn't close
the awning. I mean, like I let them hold my
aunting hostage. I don't open it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Clothes we're like swelping in the heat, and I'm like, girl,
it's yours, but you know it's it's we know, like
the Mama bird and Mama Bear, all of these things
that we talk about, this protection of your offspring, and
it is the biggest part is preparing them.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And it looks different. I mean I grew up, as
I said, in rural Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So I look at my son's life sometimes and well
he takes the bus van. Now he's so proud of him.
So this year he takes a van school. But he
was walking last year. And we live in the heart
of New York City. And I had this this moment
of crisis because the corner we walk past every day
(11:53):
happens to be a corner that is heavily populated by
people experiencing homelessness. I don't know if there's a shelter near,
but I never found out exactly why this particular corner
and it's just fourteenth and Fifth.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I mean, it's not like a ran right in middle
heart of New York City.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This one corner and we would walk past people, and
I didn't know quite how to have this conversation. First,
he's four three or four years old, And I said,
God is living in New York City preparing my child
to be a more compassionate person or a person who
sees a person sleeping on the street as usual. And
(12:28):
the reason why I bring that up again is not,
you know, I'm on some high horse kick about oh
what kind of kid am I raising? But it was
so different from my childhood and that I would have.
And by the way, not just because I was born
in nineteen seventy. None of my you know, family members
see that on the regular where we live, you don't.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You see other.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stripes and struggles of course, of course, but not that
particular thing. So as you're preparing your child, as we're
talking about, for whatever life presents, life doesn't that map
is not the same for all of us. But yet
we all have this opportunity at some point potentially to
encounter each other. So we come with different skill sets.
(13:07):
So I'm trying to allow him to have the skill
sets that I had as a child, growing up, a
very free child. I ran down the street at all
kinds of things that. I mean, my favorite memories were
me and my cousin like crawling under the house because
this cat had had a baby. We're gonna get the
babies and raise them as our own because we're like
feral as a cat.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Now we know where the bird story is coming.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
My whole childho was rescuing and homeless cats and things.
But but now having my son and trying to give
him a little bit of what I had, and also
the skill set that he has now that he'll need
if he continues to live in New York. But yeah,
it's all about preparing them and going back to the
core of what you asked.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The thing that kept me up was the Google thing
with with the coat.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And it might sound like watch not to put our kids,
but it is the fear of not having them prepared.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I think it's such a great illustration that these things
that seem like small fears are all kind of a
part of some bigger thing, which is just like it's
hard to parent and it's scary to try to do it,
to try to do it right. It is Tameron, thank
you for being here
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Welcome, Thank you for having me
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