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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Willness, un Mass. I'm doctor Nicole Saffire and
this is your weekly rundown. We're going to talk about
something that is creating a lot of confusion right now,
and frankly, it really shouldn't be this complicated. Vaccines. I
know we've talked about it before, but it just keeps
coming up over and over in the news cycle. A
federal judge has now blocked RFK Junior's attempt to overhaul
the childhood vaccine schedule that was put forth by the CDC,
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not because of the science, but because of how it
was done. The court is saying the process didn't follow
the rules. So for now we're reverting back to the
prior CDC recommendations, the one before President Trump came to
the White House and before RFK Junior was Secretary of AHHS.
Here's the problem. The public doesn't necessarily follow the legal nuance.
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They follow headlines and what people are hearing is something's changed,
something got reversed, maybe something isn't safe. That kind of
mixed messaging erodes trusts, and we are seeing the consequences
happen in real time. We are already with declining vaccination
rates in certain communities and now we're seeing measles cases
rise again. Yes, all the kids who are getting measles
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right now, that's not a direct reflection of RFK Junior
changing anything on the vaccine schedule in the last year.
The reality is vaccination rates have been declining since twenty nineteen,
yes before COVID, but I can tell you right now
they're certainly not getting any better, They're getting worse, and
the messaging is mixed and confusing. This isn't just the
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US issue. We're seeing a rise in measles in Mexico, Canada,
throughout North America, and we're also hearing about reports in
the UK that there are meningitis causes increases. Meningitis is
another communical disease, bacterial meningitis, specifically that we in the
United States recommend that adolescents get the vaccine for as
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they congregate in college dorm rooms because that's one of
the most commonplaces for it to spread. Well, the UK
is reporting they're seeing a rise in cases of this
specific back seria meningitis, which is usually eradicated with vaccination,
but gaps in vaccine coverage they're now seeing rises in
that can we be seeing rises in this in the
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United States as kids go to college in the fall.
I really hope not. It's devastating disease with devastating consequences.
But we have to be very clear here. When vaccination
rates go down, preventable diseases come back. That's not political,
that's epidemiology, that's reality. And at the same time, Americans
are also making something else clear. They want transparency, they
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want choice, and they want to make decisions alongside their doctors,
not to be told what to do by shifting policies
or unclear messaging. And those two things can actually coexist.
We can support medical freedom and maintain strong evidence based recommendations.
That only works if public health leaders communicate clearly, consistently,
and honestly. Right now, we're not there, and patients are
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caught in the middle. The bottom line is this vaccine's
one of the most effective tools we have to prevent
serious illness. That's true. But if we continue to send
mixed signals, we risk losing the public's trust entirely, and
once that has gone, it's very hard to get back. Now,
the reality is I did think the original CDC vaccine
schedule was somewhat bloated. I thought we could scale back
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on certain things. Some of the things the RFK Junior
and has done, you know, I wasn't staunchly opposed to,
but the way that it has been communicated makes it
seem that changes are being done because they found new
evidence showing it's not safe or it's not effective, and
that's just not true. So for me, it's been the
messaging that has been the failure when it comes to
some of these changes. I think we need to have open,
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honest discussions, and it can't just be RFK Junior's CDC
is unilaterally making these changes and the American Academy of
Pediatrics or the American Medical Association are staunchly opposed to them,
because that sends a bad message to the public. We
have to be working with our counterparts, and that hasn't
been happening right now, at least when it comes to
the vaccine. They are working with them with the dietary
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stuff and other things. So unfortunately, I don't think that
what's been going on in the last year with the
vaccines under RFK Junior CDC has been communicated effectively. I
really hope that moving forward we can do this in
a better manner. To try and get more people on board,
less people confuse, and we really tackle some of the
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public health emergencies that we're seeing in real time. Measles
cases is the most glaringly obvious example. Thanks so much
for listening. I'm doctor Nicole Sapphire. This has been your
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