March 13, 2026 • 29 mins
Survivor 47 Winner, Rachel LaMont, is joining Wells and Dolores today to bring them the Survivor scoop.
Rachel started her journey as an alternate before gaining the title of most individual wins alongside other Survivor legends! Going into the game, did she expect to win a single challenge at all?!
Plus, Rachel has mixed feelings about not getting the call for season 50… What does she think about the players they chose?! Who does she anticipate to be the sole survivor this season?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in all you faithful Traders and Survivors to their
episode of by Order of the Faithful Survivor addition, Wells
Adams alongside Dolores Catania, and we are going to have
a very fun episode. Today's guest is Rachel Lamont, winner
of season forty seven on Survivor. She moved through her
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season as a challenged threat, particularly when it came to puzzles.
She ended up winning four immunity challenges and tying the
record for most wins by a female contestant in a season.
Rachel made it to the final Tribal Council, where the
jury recognized her dominant gameplay and awarded her title of
Soul Survivor. Since then, she's hosted the show on Fire
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with Jeff Propes for Survivor forty eight, and she's designed
her very own puzzle game That Makes Sense, available for.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pre order now. Rachel, thank you so much for coming
on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you so much, Wels Dolores. That was a insane intro.
It's all true. I know, it's very surreal. Thank you.
It is, you know, a year and a half and
almost two years since we played, and it's still mind boggling.
To me that this is what happened and this is
where I am, and I get to, you know, pursue
some passions that I've had for a long time, and
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travel a ton, and it's just it's a dream come true.
It genuinely is. It's so cool.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You radiate such happiness. And I've been looking at your Instagram.
I'm a fan of you, and I love your puppy
and your husband and your relationship.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And you know, I'm not big on that. Wells can
tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I don't love Lovey Dovey's stuff, but I love the
way you guys travel the world. And it just seems
like the most beautiful, perfect life that you're having.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And and you've earned it all.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, you've achieved something like hundreds of thousands of
people want to do what you did.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, it's truly surreal, especially coming from you know, I
applied for seven years to be on Survivor, and so
it just became this kind of story of uh, just
stubborn refusal to give up on what I was aiming for,
and then to go to finally get on Survivor and
then be in the game and have kind of like
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a mirror of that in the game where I, you know,
was down and out and it seemed like I didn't
really have a shot, and then just just bulldozing my
way and just being like, no, I have to find
like my own path here and I have to make
it work by whatever means necessary, and I just what
a just it parallels so well with my whole experience,
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even getting on the show, So it just amazing.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, the only way out is through right.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
That's the second time I've heard that today.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh geez, I.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Think it No, not because I think maybe it's a
sign for me.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
It means something to me. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I'm going to have to look at pay attention to that.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I didn't realize that they do alternates on seasons. We
do this in Paradise where we'll bring people to the
beach and they'll be in our holding cell for like
the entire season. Then they'll go oh wow yeah and
then never come on the show. I had no idea
that you were an alternate on season forty six and
you were sent home before getting a chance to play.
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What was that experience like like and were you completely
just devastated thinking that you were going to go on
the show that you had and you need to get
to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean you are warned when they ask you
to be the alternate that the likelihood that you will
play is not very high because someone either has to
kind of panic and quit at the last second, or
they have to fail medical, you know, suddenly either get
really sick or have something happen. It happens on this show.
It does happen. I mean this, in season forty nine,
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both alternates played, right, so it does happen occasionally, but
it's just it's not it's not likely to happen. And
on forty six, neither myself or who played on forty
eight he was the male alternate, like we neither of
us got to play.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
So there's two alternates.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
There's a male and a female, and we stay until
I'm surprised to hear you say, well, is that yours
stay the whole time? So yet some you can replace
them at any point because basically one survivor once the
game begins, they will not they won't not swap anyone out.
So you know, on season forty four, Bruce, he got
a concussion and the very first challenge, minutes after they
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hit the beach and they were not going to replace
him with an alternate regardless, So that's interesting to me.
I didn't know that that would be torture. If I
had to stay in isolation for twenty six days or
probably thirty five days by the time you account for
pregame and then not play, I think that would have
been a lot harder. But I went in going, you know,
my goal this week is to make them say, like,
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we've up, we should have cast her, you know, And
so you get a lot of the same meetings you
get to do media, and I just went in just
very determined to have them say we need her back
here next season, and so that was kind of my
goal for the time there. And then if I did
get to play, I was very excited too. And if
I didn't, I was sort of looking around saying, you know,
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if this is the totality of my Survivor experience, it's
still so much more than any fan ever gets. And
that is really really cool.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You're an inspiration, Like I'm going to follow you as
like if I'm going to follow survive people, I'm going
to follow you.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Thank you. That's my thing.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I want to learn from you.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
That's a great outlook and look at how it comes.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Back to you.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah. I always try to level set, you know. I
hope for the best, but just be president enough to
also understand what's going on right now and how cool
that is.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Was forty six like an audition?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Do you think like they do they bring people on
just to see how they handle the situation of traveling
out there and doing press.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know, I think that I've gotten mixed messages about that.
I think that I'm not sure from a production standpoint
what the actual thing is, because they say, like, an
alternate is someone that we believe could replace any single person.
You could replace any woman that we have cast on
this season, and so that means that you are, you know,
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very versatile. But I also believe that if you were
to go out there and you were to kind of
bomb your media or your your production meetings or any
of those things, that you wouldn't get on the next season,
you know, or in a future season. And because there
are alternates that have never returned, so I do think
it matters. I had asked when they asked me to
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be the alternate, I said, do you think this will
help me get on in the future? And he said,
you know, not everybody, but I do think for you
it will help you.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's an interesting it's the thing to talk about, right
because it's a television show like any other. And we
do this on my show, where you're casting characters, right,
so like you know, you need the villain, you need
the good guy, you need the bad guy, you need
the super nerd need the HOWK guy, you need that
whoever whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That's for my show and for Housewives and for.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah exactly, and I'm sure they do that for Survivor
as well. But being an alternate.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Means that your character is a double.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It could be a bunch of different ones, I think, right,
which can be a good thing or a bad thing,
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
And I think that, you know, part of the reason
it took me so long to get on the show
is because I'm sort of a jack of all trades
and because I don't fit exactly into a box, like
I'm the like nerdy, uh smart Asian girl, but then
I end up being a challenge beast. I was an
athlete growing up, you know, like, and so there's so
much there And because you know and you can tell
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better than me, I would guess that when you're looking
to cast people, you want that sentence like Rachel is
the this you know of the season. And I think
that it was probably difficult for them to ever kind
of have that sentence about me, and they needed to
see me out there as the alternate, proving that I
had enough personality to kind of be everything, and I
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think it worked out in my favor for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It's helpful for storytelling though, too, because it gives you
character arc, right, Like, yeah, you can come in as
the nerdy Asian person, but then all turn into like
this like ultra athlete badass that's like winning all these
so what gives you arc? And it it's fun storytelling.
I just think it's so I I get really bugged
down in the weeds in terms of production and how
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like the you know, the sausage is made. And I'm
starting to realize that every show is the same just
with like, I think you're right the.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Way you said just now, I thought the same thing.
Well was when you said each character is this one
this Every single show has to have that yeah, no
matter what is so yeah, that that is I'm booked.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I mean, I'm just like I love this show now
I'm so humped.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Let's go to forty seven so you finally get you know, cast,
you're officially joining one. How do you prepare for something
like this? Like for me when I have to go
on Paradise, I have to get a tan and a haircut,
you know, and like maybe use a couple pounds, but
survivors different. How do you prepare for this show?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah? I did the opposite wells. I gained ten pounds,
and bless them for not forcing us and just from
suit photo shoots before the season anymore, because I definitely
would not have gained ten pounds if I had to
do a swimsuit photo shoot. But I was like, you know,
I'll be fine. I'll look a little a little different
the first couple of days and then I'll lose it
right away. And I did. But I it was kind
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of a blessing to come be the alternate on forty
six and come home and get to sit there and
look at everyone and be like, wow, Tiffany is so
strong and Maria is so strong, and just kind of
look around and say, I'm an athletic person, but I
don't look at athletic and good for you, yes, But
also it always worries me that if you're too like small,
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regardless of how much you're helping in these challenges, early on,
people are going to perceive you as being weak. And
so I was very nervous about having kind of like
scrawny arms and really, you know, I went home and
I started boxing, and I was really trying to build
a lot of muscle in my upper body so that
I could at least sit around and look a little
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bit more substantial, like I had some muscle. And I
distinctly remember before forty seven being at Ponderosa. Sam Falan
was behind me, and I was like, look at this
all American jock. He's going to be judging me. And
I would like go to put my hair up and
I would intentionally like flex my arms and like my
shoulders while I was doing, and I'm like, you need
to see you I have some muscles, and so I
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think just really trying to physically prepare. I didn't fast,
I didn't like do too many of those things. I
felt like I knew I have the drive to get
it done once I once I was there. But I
did physically like really work out a lot, swam a lot,
and did a lot of Cardio.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I think the other thing could be true too, though,
Like when I watched this current season and I look
at Jonathan Young, who's just so big, I'm thinking I
kind of want to get rid of him because he's
such a big, menacing presence. Obviously he's good in challenges,
but like I would be like, well, let's route this
guy out. He's a strong you know. Do you know
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what I'm saying, So like, yeah, there's like equilibrium that
you need to find.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's such a balance and it's so funny because you
go into survivor thinking, you know, you have to have
everyone has a perception of themselves, and then you have
to anticipate what everyone else is going to perceive about
you and decide if that is going to be positive
or negative, because, like you said, someone could look at
me and be like, oh, she's weak, I don't have
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to worry about her. But they could also look at
me and say she's weak, she's not helping, and to
get her out of here. And so finding that balance
is just really difficult, and you never know what kind
of things people bring into the game that will skew
their perspective of who you are. You know, and so yeah,
it's tough, and I think I just tried to kind
of toe that middle ground in every way, like I
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want to look strong enough but not too strong. I
want to be smart but not the smartest person in
the room. I don't want to like look like I'm
making friends with everyone, but obviously I want to be social.
So just kind of trying to goldilocks that, you know,
my way through.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I you know what, I'm like, I'm very bad at puzzles, Rachel,
So I want to know, like, has it always.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Been your thing?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Is it something that just came to you, or is.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It it's kind of always been a thing. In my
family growing up, we would do jigsaw puzzles together. And
I'm the youngest of three my two older sisters. I
was an oops baby. So my older sisters are seven
months old older than me, and so I was and
my family's very competitive. So we would sit around the
table doing a jigsaw puzzle and every time you found
a piece, they would go bang, and so people we
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would just sit there and my sisters would be like
bang bang, bang bang, and I was like this little
kid being like I need to be better, and so
I just I just had competition and kind of this
desire to keep up with my older sisters from a
very young age. And I think that it really instilled
this like competitive fire. And also with the puzzles, I've
just my whole family did it my whole life. And
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so yeah, I always have a puzzle going. I literally
have one on the table right now, and it would
I would say that it's probably it's hard to know
if it's nurture or nature right when you do it,
kind of since you were a little but I think
I have an aptitude for it for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Well, I think that your sisters can say you've definitely
outbeat them. Now you've won the most challenges of any woman,
the most immunity challenges.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
What do they have to say about that?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh, they're so proud. My family has just been really amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They're not saying bing. I'll tell you there.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Like that a little banger at the table.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, this seems like a good segue into you have
your own puzzle that's available for pre order right now.
So is it like a jigsaw puzzle or is it
like a puzzle game like tell us all about it?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yes, So I have designed co designed with Ryan placeted
my business partner and a jigsaw puzzle game. So it
is a competitive speed puzzling board game essentially, and it
is actually have it right here if you want to
see do you want to see? It looks like this.
It's very it's Japanese food themed and basically the concept
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is we're all chefs at a restaurant and you're going
to draw cards which have your orders on them. And
so there's, you know, at a mammy, there's sushi, there's
shrimp tempura. And when you draw card and each food,
there's sixteen different foods and they're all puzzles. So you
if you find your your box of puzzle. And so
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if I draw the sushi puzzle, I get this little
box and then I have to put it together as
fast as I can while you are all putting together
other foods and the pieces are double sided, and it's
so much fun. Each puzzle is worth a different amount
of points. And there's some you know, sabotage mechanics. I
can give Dolores a health code violation and put flies
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on her food, and she cannot puzzle until she gets
rid of her flies.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
How do you get rid of the fly?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You gotta roll of dice and there's a little fly
swatter on it, and then there's a bug spray on it.
So if you get a bug spray, now you can
pass your cute to somebody else. It's honestly, it's so.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well, are you going to get this game? I want
to get it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I just don't know smart enough people to play it.
But I'm going to find people that are going to
want this gift.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Please tell me that there is some sort of buzzer
that says bing when you like win or something.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
There's not a buzzy, but there's a bell, so it's
almost the same thing. And when you finish your puzzle,
you ring the little bell. So there's a little bell
and you goes and because it's restaurant themes, so everyone stops.
You say like order up because your order is now done,
and you take your turn and you draw your next card.
So yeah, it's been such a joy, and it's entirely
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because of Survivor that I got to kind of come home,
start to like brainstorm this idea with my friend Ryan
and eventually say like I'm going to take the leap here.
I'm going to quit my corporate job. I'm going to
dive head in and really try to become a game designer.
And it's been amazing. It's been almost a year since
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I quit my job.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And it looked like the happiest person I know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I am so like, I'm so happy, I'm so I
feel so you know, blessed. It feels like such a
cliche to say that, but I genuinely feel so blessed
and I'm having the time of my life. Like I
feel like I was in a kind of a rut
with my design work a graphic designer for over ten
years and just felt a little stagnant and was like,
oh wow, Like I can apply myself and design a game,
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which is such a different thing, but something that is
I'm so much more passionate about than what I was
currently doing. So yeah, I want to keep going. So
look at Puzzle Hungry.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Hey, so where can people buy Puzzle Hungry? Can you
get it on Amazon or get to go to the mall?
Like where is it?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Right now? It's online for pre order only. We're still manufacturing,
so it should be ready and we're hoping to get
them in May and ship them out in June. So
you can go to play Resolve dot com You can
also check out my Instagram. I have a link in
my bio that you can quickly do that, or you
can google puzzle hungry. Any of those things should get
you there.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
All right. Awesome, like not wait for it to come out.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's awesome that you have turned this thing that you
were really good at on national TV into a business.
Let's go back to forty seven, because I mean, listen,
it's pretty impressive to say that you are the person
who has won the most community challenges or at least
female in the history of this game. You know you
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were going to be good at this or did you
surprise yourself?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I definitely surprised myself. Look, I went out and I said,
I think I could win an immunity challenge, you know,
I think I have the determination and kind of the
ability to lock in when I need to win at
least one of these challenges. And I think in my
deepest of deep hopes, I was like, maybe I could
win two, you know, but never in a million years
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did I think that I would win fo tie the
immunity record with like some serious legends. And yeah, I
think I just really surprised myself and it by the
time that fourth one came around where I was like,
if I win this, I will tie this record. I
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wanted it so bad. I wanted it even more than
the one that I really needed, which was the prior one,
because I was just like, this is such a cool
thing talk about, you know, as a huge fan of
Survivor going down and Survivor story, as one of these
people that like a woman that won four community challenges,
like I don't know, just such a dream and to
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go out there and just really be able to to
I don't know, have a clutch win right.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
That wouldn't hit you that you said I could win
this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I what The third Immunity challenge was the one where
I came in saying if I lose this challenge, I'm
going home tonight. And if I win this challenge, I
am almost positive I win this game. And that is
the one when I won that challenge, it was like
third one. It was the third one. Yeah, it was
the day Jenaviev went home because it was basically at
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that point in my mind, if she wins this community challenge,
she is going to win this game. And if I
win it, I'm going to win this game. So that
was really the day that was the do or die
day for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
We've been asking, you know, everyone that's come on the
show to help us recap the season fifty if they've
been upset that they weren't invited to season fifty. Where
I mean, as someone who has tied the record for
the most Immunity Challenge wins in the history of a
game that's been going for thirty some odd years, are
you upset that you didn't get the call, or maybe
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you didn't you turned it down.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I did not get a call, and you know, I
think I have mixed feelings about it. Okay, I don't
think I was ready to play on season fifty. I
think it was a little bit too soon after I played,
and I think that my threat level would have been
so high, like I'm so competitive that I don't want
to play again when I kind of feel like I'm
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just have no shot of winning, you know, And so
I have that on the one hand. On the other hand,
like I wanted to be like asked, maybe you know
you could have called me. I never expected to be on,
but like getting just a feel or call would have
been kind of nice.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
So kind of like that I like is going to
call and you're like, all right, and I don't hear
from I don't like them, I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Out with them.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But what I wanted to call me and ask me
so I could tell them.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, a dinner party, Like I don't want to get
to a dinner party, but I'm annoyed that I wasn't
invited to the dinner.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Party exactly, So you would go back, though I would
go back. I think it's pretty hard when they call
you to say no. You know, it's just it's I
love Survivor, and I I still lay awake at night
thinking about some of the things that I got to do,
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and just some of the simple things like waking up
in the middle of the night because I was cold,
and then I stoke the fire, make it warmer again,
go back to sleep, Like those are some of the
things that just like roll rent free in my head
on a regular basis because it's just so special. It
was such a cool experience, and so I would be
very very difficult to not want to go back get asked,
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but it does. It does make me. You know, you win,
you go out the first time you win. It's a
little all intimidating to be like, I'm going to go
back and undoubtedly do worse probably than I did the first.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, that's something I've thought about that.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Like people say a lot of times, like, oh, you
know Traders All Star, right, would you go back?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I left winning.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It's highly a big chance I'm not going to ever
win again.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
And and I would play differently. And that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, how would you play differently?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I want to know, like you never I would be
more immersed in the game. I know the game better
now I lived the game. You can understand the game
going in which I did. But then once you live
the game, you're never going to play the same way
you did before you were there.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
So I'm afraid that that would hurt me in a way.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It'd be so fun to watch, though, if they if
they asked you for All Stars, would you go back?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
I would crawl back.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I miss it, Rachel, I miss it every.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I get it. I get it. It's like it's
a scary thing, but also it's just it's too intoxicating.
You have to say yes, you know, yeah, if you.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If you had been invited to season fifty, what would
have been your strategy.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Oh, that's a great question. I think that I would
have really tried to focus on the fact that I
have a big challenge asset, and I think that would
probably come back to bite me around the merge because
I think, but I think that it would have regardless.
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I think that regardless of whether I kind of tut
that or not, people are going to remember that I
won for Communities and I'm going to have a hard
time right after the merge. But I think that I
think some of the biggest knocks against my game are
that I didn't have a lot of like control socially,
I didn't have as much agency as people like like
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in a winner. And I think that I would really,
you know, focus on that and be like, remember, remember,
I'm not like that great at this other part. I
might be good physically, but these other things. And so
I think that that would have been my approach because
I think coming in, I mean, Kyle, you know, he
got meta fact, but he was in such a good
position and the fact that they watched him win like
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a week before they left is wild and you just
have to you kind of I think you just have
to lean into the perception if you try to shy
away from that when you're so recent, I think that
people just get weary of you. They're like, you're trying
to hide, You're trying to play me, And so I
think that I would just really lean into like my
game and try to get people to see that it's
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in their best interest to align with me. I wanted
ally so badly on forty seven and had very few
of them.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So yeah, last question, who are you watching? And who's
playing the best strategic game? And then also who do
you think is going to win?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Oh, okay, I'm watching. I think it's hard not to
watch Christian right now. He's got a lot going for him,
and I think we'll get into it. But I think, like, yeah,
we'll get into the thing with Devin's from this episode,
but I feel like it's got a lot of outs
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right now, which are he's got a lot of options.
I think that Soria is always someone to watch. I
mean the fact that she has been you know, at
tribal a few times, already, had that pretty disastrous challenge
that essentially lost the challenge for her tribe and was
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never even really discussed as an option. She is just
a social force to be reckoned with, and you always
have to watch out for people like that. And honestly,
I think I think Rizzo is doing pretty well. I
really I do. I think that the fact that you
can watch him, people just they I rolled the second
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they think about him, But then the more they get
to know him, he endears himself to everyone's on you,
and it just that's kind of a superpower that you
can't That's just who he is, you know, you can't
fake that. And I think that that really makes me
hopeful for him.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, Charlie is not.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
That was very funny. I can't wait to talk about it. Yeah,
that's true. Who knows. Maybe Charlie would just be like, no,
my PTSD is coming back. I got to stab you
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Who do you think is gonna win?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Ooh okay, I I'd like to put my money right now.
I think Mike quite has a lot of upside here.
I again, I think that people aren't looking at him
like they should be. And he drove this whole vote
against you and nobody even kind of like said anything
(27:01):
about it. You know, he got to do it so blatantly,
and so it's just like a very I don't know
I don't know if he can win, but you know,
it's been said that he could have won his last season,
So he's really smart.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's a little bit of starking that's going on with
him though too.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I was very nervous when I heard he was on
the season because I do think that people probably are
giving him a pretty big pass because they don't want
to piss him off. Even if it's not that they
want him to win, it's that they don't want to
be the person to burn Mike White, and I don't
on the one hand, don't blame him. On the other hand,
it's it's concerning, and I think he could probably get
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really deep, really easily just because people are not like
willing to stab him in the back. So but another
reason why he might win, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So yeah, it is an advantage.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
You know that potentially you could be on the next
season of White Loaded if you play your cards right.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Like it's a little bit.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Of blake who doesn't want to be on White.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Lotus quid quote quote here that like and so much
so like in this last episode they showed up.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I know, can you believe HBO on Survivor.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That that was allowed, like knowing how hard it is
to get clips of other shows on your show, Like
everyone's like, no, you're we're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Mike had to have pulled some strengths for that one.
You know, I bet you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Mike said, this is my show, you can do it.
I guarantee you. That's how that went.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Rachel, thank you so much for coming on by Order
of the Faithfuls, and thank you with us.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Thank you, this has.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Been so much fun. Again, your new puzzle will be
coming out very very soon. Tell everyone the name of
it and where to go check it out.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yes, it is called Puzzle Hungry Umammy Rush and it
should be You can pre order right now at play
resolve dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You guys listening out there, make sure that you follow
us on Instagram app by Order of the Faithfuls. We're
gonna be back very very soon and we are going
to recap the entire episode of season fifty, episode three
with Rachel, So make sure you are subscribed and listening.
We'll be back very very soon. Ladies, thank you so
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much for joining me today. This has been amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Thank you so much. Well,
Welcome in all you faithful Traders and Survivors to their
episode of by Order of the Faithful Survivor addition, Wells
Adams alongside Dolores Catania, and we are going to have
a very fun episode. Today's guest is Rachel Lamont, winner
of season forty seven on Survivor. She moved through her
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season as a challenged threat, particularly when it came to puzzles.
She ended up winning four immunity challenges and tying the
record for most wins by a female contestant in a season.
Rachel made it to the final Tribal Council, where the
jury recognized her dominant gameplay and awarded her title of
Soul Survivor. Since then, she's hosted the show on Fire
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with Jeff Propes for Survivor forty eight, and she's designed
her very own puzzle game That Makes Sense, available for.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pre order now. Rachel, thank you so much for coming
on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you so much, Wels Dolores. That was a insane intro.
It's all true. I know, it's very surreal. Thank you.
It is, you know, a year and a half and
almost two years since we played, and it's still mind boggling.
To me that this is what happened and this is
where I am, and I get to, you know, pursue
some passions that I've had for a long time, and
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travel a ton, and it's just it's a dream come true.
It genuinely is. It's so cool.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You radiate such happiness. And I've been looking at your Instagram.
I'm a fan of you, and I love your puppy
and your husband and your relationship.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And you know, I'm not big on that. Wells can
tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I don't love Lovey Dovey's stuff, but I love the
way you guys travel the world. And it just seems
like the most beautiful, perfect life that you're having.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And and you've earned it all.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, you've achieved something like hundreds of thousands of
people want to do what you did.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, it's truly surreal, especially coming from you know, I
applied for seven years to be on Survivor, and so
it just became this kind of story of uh, just
stubborn refusal to give up on what I was aiming for,
and then to go to finally get on Survivor and
then be in the game and have kind of like
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a mirror of that in the game where I, you know,
was down and out and it seemed like I didn't
really have a shot, and then just just bulldozing my
way and just being like, no, I have to find
like my own path here and I have to make
it work by whatever means necessary, and I just what
a just it parallels so well with my whole experience,
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even getting on the show, So it just amazing.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, the only way out is through right.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
That's the second time I've heard that today.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh geez, I.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Think it No, not because I think maybe it's a
sign for me.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
It means something to me. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I'm going to have to look at pay attention to that.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I didn't realize that they do alternates on seasons. We
do this in Paradise where we'll bring people to the
beach and they'll be in our holding cell for like
the entire season. Then they'll go oh wow yeah and
then never come on the show. I had no idea
that you were an alternate on season forty six and
you were sent home before getting a chance to play.
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What was that experience like like and were you completely
just devastated thinking that you were going to go on
the show that you had and you need to get
to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean you are warned when they ask you
to be the alternate that the likelihood that you will
play is not very high because someone either has to
kind of panic and quit at the last second, or
they have to fail medical, you know, suddenly either get
really sick or have something happen. It happens on this show.
It does happen. I mean this, in season forty nine,
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both alternates played, right, so it does happen occasionally, but
it's just it's not it's not likely to happen. And
on forty six, neither myself or who played on forty
eight he was the male alternate, like we neither of
us got to play.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
So there's two alternates.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
There's a male and a female, and we stay until
I'm surprised to hear you say, well, is that yours
stay the whole time? So yet some you can replace
them at any point because basically one survivor once the
game begins, they will not they won't not swap anyone out.
So you know, on season forty four, Bruce, he got
a concussion and the very first challenge, minutes after they
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hit the beach and they were not going to replace
him with an alternate regardless, So that's interesting to me.
I didn't know that that would be torture. If I
had to stay in isolation for twenty six days or
probably thirty five days by the time you account for
pregame and then not play, I think that would have
been a lot harder. But I went in going, you know,
my goal this week is to make them say, like,
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we've up, we should have cast her, you know, And
so you get a lot of the same meetings you
get to do media, and I just went in just
very determined to have them say we need her back
here next season, and so that was kind of my
goal for the time there. And then if I did
get to play, I was very excited too. And if
I didn't, I was sort of looking around saying, you know,
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if this is the totality of my Survivor experience, it's
still so much more than any fan ever gets. And
that is really really cool.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You're an inspiration, Like I'm going to follow you as
like if I'm going to follow survive people, I'm going
to follow you.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Thank you. That's my thing.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I want to learn from you.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
That's a great outlook and look at how it comes.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Back to you.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah. I always try to level set, you know. I
hope for the best, but just be president enough to
also understand what's going on right now and how cool
that is.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Was forty six like an audition?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Do you think like they do they bring people on
just to see how they handle the situation of traveling
out there and doing press.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know, I think that I've gotten mixed messages about that.
I think that I'm not sure from a production standpoint
what the actual thing is, because they say, like, an
alternate is someone that we believe could replace any single person.
You could replace any woman that we have cast on
this season, and so that means that you are, you know,
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very versatile. But I also believe that if you were
to go out there and you were to kind of
bomb your media or your your production meetings or any
of those things, that you wouldn't get on the next season,
you know, or in a future season. And because there
are alternates that have never returned, so I do think
it matters. I had asked when they asked me to
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be the alternate, I said, do you think this will
help me get on in the future? And he said,
you know, not everybody, but I do think for you
it will help you.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's an interesting it's the thing to talk about, right
because it's a television show like any other. And we
do this on my show, where you're casting characters, right,
so like you know, you need the villain, you need
the good guy, you need the bad guy, you need
the super nerd need the HOWK guy, you need that
whoever whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That's for my show and for Housewives and for.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah exactly, and I'm sure they do that for Survivor
as well. But being an alternate.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Means that your character is a double.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It could be a bunch of different ones, I think, right,
which can be a good thing or a bad thing,
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
And I think that, you know, part of the reason
it took me so long to get on the show
is because I'm sort of a jack of all trades
and because I don't fit exactly into a box, like
I'm the like nerdy, uh smart Asian girl, but then
I end up being a challenge beast. I was an
athlete growing up, you know, like, and so there's so
much there And because you know and you can tell
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better than me, I would guess that when you're looking
to cast people, you want that sentence like Rachel is
the this you know of the season. And I think
that it was probably difficult for them to ever kind
of have that sentence about me, and they needed to
see me out there as the alternate, proving that I
had enough personality to kind of be everything, and I
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think it worked out in my favor for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It's helpful for storytelling though, too, because it gives you
character arc, right, Like, yeah, you can come in as
the nerdy Asian person, but then all turn into like
this like ultra athlete badass that's like winning all these
so what gives you arc? And it it's fun storytelling.
I just think it's so I I get really bugged
down in the weeds in terms of production and how
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like the you know, the sausage is made. And I'm
starting to realize that every show is the same just
with like, I think you're right the.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Way you said just now, I thought the same thing.
Well was when you said each character is this one
this Every single show has to have that yeah, no
matter what is so yeah, that that is I'm booked.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I mean, I'm just like I love this show now
I'm so humped.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Let's go to forty seven so you finally get you know, cast,
you're officially joining one. How do you prepare for something
like this? Like for me when I have to go
on Paradise, I have to get a tan and a haircut,
you know, and like maybe use a couple pounds, but
survivors different. How do you prepare for this show?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah? I did the opposite wells. I gained ten pounds,
and bless them for not forcing us and just from
suit photo shoots before the season anymore, because I definitely
would not have gained ten pounds if I had to
do a swimsuit photo shoot. But I was like, you know,
I'll be fine. I'll look a little a little different
the first couple of days and then I'll lose it
right away. And I did. But I it was kind
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of a blessing to come be the alternate on forty
six and come home and get to sit there and
look at everyone and be like, wow, Tiffany is so
strong and Maria is so strong, and just kind of
look around and say, I'm an athletic person, but I
don't look at athletic and good for you, yes, But
also it always worries me that if you're too like small,
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regardless of how much you're helping in these challenges, early on,
people are going to perceive you as being weak. And
so I was very nervous about having kind of like
scrawny arms and really, you know, I went home and
I started boxing, and I was really trying to build
a lot of muscle in my upper body so that
I could at least sit around and look a little
(10:28):
bit more substantial, like I had some muscle. And I
distinctly remember before forty seven being at Ponderosa. Sam Falan
was behind me, and I was like, look at this
all American jock. He's going to be judging me. And
I would like go to put my hair up and
I would intentionally like flex my arms and like my
shoulders while I was doing, and I'm like, you need
to see you I have some muscles, and so I
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think just really trying to physically prepare. I didn't fast,
I didn't like do too many of those things. I
felt like I knew I have the drive to get
it done once I once I was there. But I
did physically like really work out a lot, swam a lot,
and did a lot of Cardio.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I think the other thing could be true too, though,
Like when I watched this current season and I look
at Jonathan Young, who's just so big, I'm thinking I
kind of want to get rid of him because he's
such a big, menacing presence. Obviously he's good in challenges,
but like I would be like, well, let's route this
guy out. He's a strong you know. Do you know
(11:30):
what I'm saying, So like, yeah, there's like equilibrium that
you need to find.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's such a balance and it's so funny because you
go into survivor thinking, you know, you have to have
everyone has a perception of themselves, and then you have
to anticipate what everyone else is going to perceive about
you and decide if that is going to be positive
or negative, because, like you said, someone could look at
me and be like, oh, she's weak, I don't have
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to worry about her. But they could also look at
me and say she's weak, she's not helping, and to
get her out of here. And so finding that balance
is just really difficult, and you never know what kind
of things people bring into the game that will skew
their perspective of who you are. You know, and so yeah,
it's tough, and I think I just tried to kind
of toe that middle ground in every way, like I
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want to look strong enough but not too strong. I
want to be smart but not the smartest person in
the room. I don't want to like look like I'm
making friends with everyone, but obviously I want to be social.
So just kind of trying to goldilocks that, you know,
my way through.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I you know what, I'm like, I'm very bad at puzzles, Rachel,
So I want to know, like, has it always.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Been your thing?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Is it something that just came to you, or is.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
It it's kind of always been a thing. In my
family growing up, we would do jigsaw puzzles together. And
I'm the youngest of three my two older sisters. I
was an oops baby. So my older sisters are seven
months old older than me, and so I was and
my family's very competitive. So we would sit around the
table doing a jigsaw puzzle and every time you found
a piece, they would go bang, and so people we
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would just sit there and my sisters would be like
bang bang, bang bang, and I was like this little
kid being like I need to be better, and so
I just I just had competition and kind of this
desire to keep up with my older sisters from a
very young age. And I think that it really instilled
this like competitive fire. And also with the puzzles, I've
just my whole family did it my whole life. And
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so yeah, I always have a puzzle going. I literally
have one on the table right now, and it would
I would say that it's probably it's hard to know
if it's nurture or nature right when you do it,
kind of since you were a little but I think
I have an aptitude for it for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Well, I think that your sisters can say you've definitely
outbeat them. Now you've won the most challenges of any woman,
the most immunity challenges.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
What do they have to say about that?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh, they're so proud. My family has just been really amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They're not saying bing. I'll tell you there.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Like that a little banger at the table.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, this seems like a good segue into you have
your own puzzle that's available for pre order right now.
So is it like a jigsaw puzzle or is it
like a puzzle game like tell us all about it?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yes, So I have designed co designed with Ryan placeted
my business partner and a jigsaw puzzle game. So it
is a competitive speed puzzling board game essentially, and it
is actually have it right here if you want to
see do you want to see? It looks like this.
It's very it's Japanese food themed and basically the concept
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is we're all chefs at a restaurant and you're going
to draw cards which have your orders on them. And
so there's, you know, at a mammy, there's sushi, there's
shrimp tempura. And when you draw card and each food,
there's sixteen different foods and they're all puzzles. So you
if you find your your box of puzzle. And so
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if I draw the sushi puzzle, I get this little
box and then I have to put it together as
fast as I can while you are all putting together
other foods and the pieces are double sided, and it's
so much fun. Each puzzle is worth a different amount
of points. And there's some you know, sabotage mechanics. I
can give Dolores a health code violation and put flies
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on her food, and she cannot puzzle until she gets
rid of her flies.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
How do you get rid of the fly?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You gotta roll of dice and there's a little fly
swatter on it, and then there's a bug spray on it.
So if you get a bug spray, now you can
pass your cute to somebody else. It's honestly, it's so.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well, are you going to get this game? I want
to get it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I just don't know smart enough people to play it.
But I'm going to find people that are going to
want this gift.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Please tell me that there is some sort of buzzer
that says bing when you like win or something.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
There's not a buzzy, but there's a bell, so it's
almost the same thing. And when you finish your puzzle,
you ring the little bell. So there's a little bell
and you goes and because it's restaurant themes, so everyone stops.
You say like order up because your order is now done,
and you take your turn and you draw your next card.
So yeah, it's been such a joy, and it's entirely
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because of Survivor that I got to kind of come home,
start to like brainstorm this idea with my friend Ryan
and eventually say like I'm going to take the leap here.
I'm going to quit my corporate job. I'm going to
dive head in and really try to become a game designer.
And it's been amazing. It's been almost a year since
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I quit my job.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And it looked like the happiest person I know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I am so like, I'm so happy, I'm so I
feel so you know, blessed. It feels like such a
cliche to say that, but I genuinely feel so blessed
and I'm having the time of my life. Like I
feel like I was in a kind of a rut
with my design work a graphic designer for over ten
years and just felt a little stagnant and was like,
oh wow, Like I can apply myself and design a game,
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which is such a different thing, but something that is
I'm so much more passionate about than what I was
currently doing. So yeah, I want to keep going. So
look at Puzzle Hungry.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Hey, so where can people buy Puzzle Hungry? Can you
get it on Amazon or get to go to the mall?
Like where is it?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Right now? It's online for pre order only. We're still manufacturing,
so it should be ready and we're hoping to get
them in May and ship them out in June. So
you can go to play Resolve dot com You can
also check out my Instagram. I have a link in
my bio that you can quickly do that, or you
can google puzzle hungry. Any of those things should get
you there.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
All right. Awesome, like not wait for it to come out.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's awesome that you have turned this thing that you
were really good at on national TV into a business.
Let's go back to forty seven, because I mean, listen,
it's pretty impressive to say that you are the person
who has won the most community challenges or at least
female in the history of this game. You know you
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were going to be good at this or did you
surprise yourself?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I definitely surprised myself. Look, I went out and I said,
I think I could win an immunity challenge, you know,
I think I have the determination and kind of the
ability to lock in when I need to win at
least one of these challenges. And I think in my
deepest of deep hopes, I was like, maybe I could
win two, you know, but never in a million years
(18:26):
did I think that I would win fo tie the
immunity record with like some serious legends. And yeah, I
think I just really surprised myself and it by the
time that fourth one came around where I was like,
if I win this, I will tie this record. I
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wanted it so bad. I wanted it even more than
the one that I really needed, which was the prior one,
because I was just like, this is such a cool
thing talk about, you know, as a huge fan of
Survivor going down and Survivor story, as one of these
people that like a woman that won four community challenges,
like I don't know, just such a dream and to
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go out there and just really be able to to
I don't know, have a clutch win right.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
That wouldn't hit you that you said I could win
this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I what The third Immunity challenge was the one where
I came in saying if I lose this challenge, I'm
going home tonight. And if I win this challenge, I
am almost positive I win this game. And that is
the one when I won that challenge, it was like
third one. It was the third one. Yeah, it was
the day Jenaviev went home because it was basically at
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that point in my mind, if she wins this community challenge,
she is going to win this game. And if I
win it, I'm going to win this game. So that
was really the day that was the do or die
day for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
We've been asking, you know, everyone that's come on the
show to help us recap the season fifty if they've
been upset that they weren't invited to season fifty. Where
I mean, as someone who has tied the record for
the most Immunity Challenge wins in the history of a
game that's been going for thirty some odd years, are
you upset that you didn't get the call, or maybe
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you didn't you turned it down.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I did not get a call, and you know, I
think I have mixed feelings about it. Okay, I don't
think I was ready to play on season fifty. I
think it was a little bit too soon after I played,
and I think that my threat level would have been
so high, like I'm so competitive that I don't want
to play again when I kind of feel like I'm
(20:45):
just have no shot of winning, you know, And so
I have that on the one hand. On the other hand,
like I wanted to be like asked, maybe you know
you could have called me. I never expected to be on,
but like getting just a feel or call would have
been kind of nice.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
So kind of like that I like is going to
call and you're like, all right, and I don't hear
from I don't like them, I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Out with them.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But what I wanted to call me and ask me
so I could tell them.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, a dinner party, Like I don't want to get
to a dinner party, but I'm annoyed that I wasn't
invited to the dinner.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Party exactly, So you would go back, though I would
go back. I think it's pretty hard when they call
you to say no. You know, it's just it's I
love Survivor, and I I still lay awake at night
thinking about some of the things that I got to do,
(21:40):
and just some of the simple things like waking up
in the middle of the night because I was cold,
and then I stoke the fire, make it warmer again,
go back to sleep, Like those are some of the
things that just like roll rent free in my head
on a regular basis because it's just so special. It
was such a cool experience, and so I would be
very very difficult to not want to go back get asked,
(22:00):
but it does. It does make me. You know, you win,
you go out the first time you win. It's a
little all intimidating to be like, I'm going to go
back and undoubtedly do worse probably than I did the first.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, that's something I've thought about that.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Like people say a lot of times, like, oh, you
know Traders All Star, right, would you go back?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I left winning.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It's highly a big chance I'm not going to ever
win again.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
And and I would play differently. And that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, how would you play differently?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I want to know, like you never I would be
more immersed in the game. I know the game better
now I lived the game. You can understand the game
going in which I did. But then once you live
the game, you're never going to play the same way
you did before you were there.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
So I'm afraid that that would hurt me in a way.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It'd be so fun to watch, though, if they if
they asked you for All Stars, would you go back?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
I would crawl back.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I miss it, Rachel, I miss it every.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I get it. I get it. It's like it's
a scary thing, but also it's just it's too intoxicating.
You have to say yes, you know, yeah, if you.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If you had been invited to season fifty, what would
have been your strategy.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Oh, that's a great question. I think that I would
have really tried to focus on the fact that I
have a big challenge asset, and I think that would
probably come back to bite me around the merge because
I think, but I think that it would have regardless.
(23:36):
I think that regardless of whether I kind of tut
that or not, people are going to remember that I
won for Communities and I'm going to have a hard
time right after the merge. But I think that I
think some of the biggest knocks against my game are
that I didn't have a lot of like control socially,
I didn't have as much agency as people like like
(23:58):
in a winner. And I think that I would really,
you know, focus on that and be like, remember, remember,
I'm not like that great at this other part. I
might be good physically, but these other things. And so
I think that that would have been my approach because
I think coming in, I mean, Kyle, you know, he
got meta fact, but he was in such a good
position and the fact that they watched him win like
(24:19):
a week before they left is wild and you just
have to you kind of I think you just have
to lean into the perception if you try to shy
away from that when you're so recent, I think that
people just get weary of you. They're like, you're trying
to hide, You're trying to play me, And so I
think that I would just really lean into like my
game and try to get people to see that it's
(24:43):
in their best interest to align with me. I wanted
ally so badly on forty seven and had very few
of them.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So yeah, last question, who are you watching? And who's
playing the best strategic game? And then also who do
you think is going to win?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Oh, okay, I'm watching. I think it's hard not to
watch Christian right now. He's got a lot going for him,
and I think we'll get into it. But I think, like, yeah,
we'll get into the thing with Devin's from this episode,
but I feel like it's got a lot of outs
(25:21):
right now, which are he's got a lot of options.
I think that Soria is always someone to watch. I
mean the fact that she has been you know, at
tribal a few times, already, had that pretty disastrous challenge
that essentially lost the challenge for her tribe and was
(25:44):
never even really discussed as an option. She is just
a social force to be reckoned with, and you always
have to watch out for people like that. And honestly,
I think I think Rizzo is doing pretty well. I
really I do. I think that the fact that you
can watch him, people just they I rolled the second
(26:04):
they think about him, But then the more they get
to know him, he endears himself to everyone's on you,
and it just that's kind of a superpower that you
can't That's just who he is, you know, you can't
fake that. And I think that that really makes me
hopeful for him.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, Charlie is not.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
That was very funny. I can't wait to talk about it. Yeah,
that's true. Who knows. Maybe Charlie would just be like, no,
my PTSD is coming back. I got to stab you
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Who do you think is gonna win?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Ooh okay, I I'd like to put my money right now.
I think Mike quite has a lot of upside here.
I again, I think that people aren't looking at him
like they should be. And he drove this whole vote
against you and nobody even kind of like said anything
(27:01):
about it. You know, he got to do it so blatantly,
and so it's just like a very I don't know
I don't know if he can win, but you know,
it's been said that he could have won his last season,
So he's really smart.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's a little bit of starking that's going on with
him though too.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I was very nervous when I heard he was on
the season because I do think that people probably are
giving him a pretty big pass because they don't want
to piss him off. Even if it's not that they
want him to win, it's that they don't want to
be the person to burn Mike White, and I don't
on the one hand, don't blame him. On the other hand,
it's it's concerning, and I think he could probably get
(27:42):
really deep, really easily just because people are not like
willing to stab him in the back. So but another
reason why he might win, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So yeah, it is an advantage.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
You know that potentially you could be on the next
season of White Loaded if you play your cards right.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Like it's a little bit.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Of blake who doesn't want to be on White.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Lotus quid quote quote here that like and so much
so like in this last episode they showed up.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I know, can you believe HBO on Survivor.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That that was allowed, like knowing how hard it is
to get clips of other shows on your show, Like
everyone's like, no, you're we're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Mike had to have pulled some strengths for that one.
You know, I bet you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Mike said, this is my show, you can do it.
I guarantee you. That's how that went.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Rachel, thank you so much for coming on by Order
of the Faithfuls, and thank you with us.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Thank you, this has.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Been so much fun. Again, your new puzzle will be
coming out very very soon. Tell everyone the name of
it and where to go check it out.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yes, it is called Puzzle Hungry Umammy Rush and it
should be You can pre order right now at play
resolve dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You guys listening out there, make sure that you follow
us on Instagram app by Order of the Faithfuls. We're
gonna be back very very soon and we are going
to recap the entire episode of season fifty, episode three
with Rachel, So make sure you are subscribed and listening.
We'll be back very very soon. Ladies, thank you so
(29:17):
much for joining me today. This has been amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Thank you so much. Well,
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