January 30, 2026 • 29 mins
Alan Cumming called this the most iconic episode in Traitors history… Do Tamra and Dolores think it lived up to the hype?! Is this the best “murder in plain sight” we will ever see?
Rob and Candiace are going head-to-head, but Dolores isn’t surprised. Evil can’t stay with evil, and there’s one traitor that has our vote to win.
Plus, who will the next traitor recruit be?! Would it be smart to go for the outspoken Bachelor or the quiet Housewife?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, guys, welcome back to my Order of the Faithfuls.
It's just me and Dolores today. Wells is out doing
whatever he's doing, and I'm bummed because this was a
really good episode and I feel like he would have
had a lot to say about it totally. Let's talk
a little bit about the black banquet looks.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The cinematics. They were amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I mean everybody was dressed to their personality, that's for sure.
I mean everybody was dressed great. There was do you
think they dressed them so for.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All of you who don't know there is a costume
maker in the castle.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Who we didn't have a costume maker. We had like
a wardrobe like a wardrobe slash costume room upstairs that
we could pick from or pull from. But these were
like made special, amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
They were all amazing. I think Lisa Rena's was runway qutore,
I have to say, because she is that bitch.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
She is that bitch everyone's. I really like Rob's. It
was so so fitting for him.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I loved it. The print was amazing. Yeah, I'd love
to see him dressed fully dressed for once.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm fine with him not dressed. What about what do
you think about Colton's crystal head piece, and it was
too much with the pearl, Like it was just too much.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But listen, it's a costumed joke. It's not a joke.
It's like it's a theatrical it's theatrical.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yes, yes, yeah, So I just want to share this.
Page six came up with an article about Lisa Renna
saying she burst into tears reflect on how difficult it
was leaving The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, that it
really did affect her. She was on the show for
eight years. Well she's kind of, you know, claimed like
(01:52):
she quit the show, she'll never go back. Seems a
little bit felt maybe feels a little burned by the show.
Maybe I'm not sure. That's kind of the energy she'd
given off. But so I thought like she was like,
good riddance. But she basically said that she was on
for eight years, the longest job in her thirty five
(02:12):
year career. She expressed gratitude for the experience and the
time she spent on the franchise. It also mentions that
Renna addressed a controversy involving fellow Trader contestant Colton Underwood.
So when she called him a stalker on social media.
He got death threats.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah. Yeah. She had to come on and say, you know,
we're good. Yeah, you don't do this.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And she clarified it on Instagram, saying it's a game,
not personal. I just said it in the spirit of
the game. I think he already gets a lot of
shit for that on social media from his chest. I
want to bring it and resurface it all.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah. I wouldn't have brought that. I think I would
have used a different choice of words. But not everybody
thinks before they speak. Yeah, I know she's not one
that's known to do that either.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I got. I just talked to Heather to brow and
she goes, I saw you said you're gonna blow things up.
I go. I was joking, I go. I said, it
was actually my unbothered era that I'm going into for
twenty twenty six. That's my word. Remember you told me
to think of a word for twenty twenty six. I'm
mine is very unbothered. I'm just unbothered. Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I haven't come up with one yet.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I was joking when I said I'm blow shit up.
You know, Jeff gets me.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Going, ah, he does, he gets everyone going, he really does.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But anyway, so Lisa must complete. It starts off where
Lisa must complete her murder in plain sight. And it
was pretty genius how she did it, didn't you think?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You know? Before I watched it, I thought of the
same idea, because you did. I did one hundred thousand
her scent before she did it, I'm like I would
say like, oh my god, Auch, can you help me?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And yeah, And it wasn't even brought up later on,
like it was never It was more about the air
kiss than anything, right, right, because they don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They just don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And she kind of was like a little dramatic about it.
She's like, oh, oh, like you know what I mean.
I think I would have been like, oh crap, just
poked me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think actually at the table, Derinda got more shit
than Lisa until until jam jam started going off, But
before that they were really looking at Derinda.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So Alan had said many, many, many interviews leading up
to it, that this was the most iconic episode in
Trader history. Did it live up to the hype?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It did? It was good? Might say it did?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean just visually.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes, agreed The outfits, the idea of it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I would have liked to see more of it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I love the brooch. The brooch was beautiful. It should
be in a museum now, the Traders Museum. You know,
people are gonna use that for different things. But I
think that this was amazing. And the fact that there
was antidope and to have everybody implode on each other
at the table, you really got to see people's character
(05:25):
at this point. Now it's now everybody. It's how like
human nature, when people get closer to wanting something, how
nasty they're going to get over it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, well, Alan, his outfit was insanity. All the pearls
on his face, the pearls on his outfits. Then he
comes walking.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Out with two mass guards like it was pretty creepy,
but visually.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It was just so amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was just I'm gonna watch it again.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh me too. I made Eddie watch it with me
because he hasn't watched any of the season, and then
he goes, is this the season finale? I go, no, Edie,
this episode seven.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm kind of glad because I'm really enjoying this season.
And as much as I was enjoying it, I was
still saying, oh, I still think mine was better until
last night because our murder and plaining sight was. I
didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What was it? Remind me?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Three people had to be in the coffin? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
we got called out. There was a bunch of coffins
and there was like smoke and all these torches outside
lit and then it was like, okay, three of you
get in the coffin.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But like, compared to this, compared to this, this is amazing. Yeah.
But the thing is there's a twist. They can be saved.
So two players will have the chance to drink the antidote,
which can prevent them from being murdered. And this is
where we see everybody lose their shit.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right, this is Natalie and Tarra going at it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Why did Natalie remind me? Why did she think that
she possibly someone.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Served her food? Okay, and everybody was eating the same
food so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And somebody came out and said, guys, it's not the food.
That would be too obvious. It's been done before. I
was like, drink out of a chalice? Remember that on
season two?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That was good? That wasn't Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Especially a rusty old child. Here, have a drink.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Really, you must be thirsty.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I love how Johnny grabbed the antidote for Kristen, Hare
you need this.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I love that. That's a nice friend. Yeah. Then they're like,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
She just did Yamah is his name Yam Yam or
jam john.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They called him jam Jam. It's spelled Yam yam. So
he's going to kiss me. Lisa kissed me, But he did.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He didn't even really try for the antidote, did he?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No? Not really, no, he just because the people that
did try for it were so aggressive towards it, which
kind of turned me off to them for the rest
of the season. I'm I don't look at them different.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, Natalie and Kristen. Is that we were talking.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
About Natalie, Kristin and Tara.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So Tara was the one that was blaming Derenda, and
Derenda's like, oh, you could see the panic on her face, like,
oh shit, now I'm gonna get blamed and people are
gonna come for me. I'm skating under everybody's radar for
the past six episodes. Leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I kept saying Jam Jam was scared. He kept
saying Lisa, Lisa Lisa. Lisa immediately immediately when they were
told that something happened at this dinner, he leaned over
and he said, Lisa kissed me. So maybe he was
wrong about it, but he was also right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
He was right. He was yes, I'm saying, and he was.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Wrong at the same time.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Are you shocked that he didn't say anything about the brooch?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
No, No, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I wonder if he thought about it later.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I wonder if he was on the way home when
you go back to your room and start hacking, right,
So I think it was more the kiss, because in
our minds, if you've ever watched The Godfather, the kiss
is always the kiss of death.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Kiss a death right.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, I can murder them. So I feel like
that was really in his Or you.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Put a horse head in their bed, right right.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That'll be the next murder.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And plain sight as he was going, he said, it's Lisa,
it's Lisa, it's Lisa.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was worked up, and they've really grabbed him and
took them off the seat. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I mean, we saw a flashback or I looked at
the kiss and it wasn't air kiss. It didn't really
matter one way or the other. And the next morning,
the three traders walk into the breakfast first. So that
was very.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Lisa's right now, knowing her time is coming close. I
think because he was screaming her name was he was
being carried out. There's no way if I was at
that table that I wouldn't have been having an eye
on Lisa thinking it. And now Candace, you know, moving forward,
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eyes on her as well, so they go pretty heavy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I was concerned when Candace started sticking up for Lisa,
because every time Lisa's name's brought up for different reasons,
she would always stick up for her. And I'm like,
I don't think that's good. I don't think you should
be doing that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right now, Rob is in the ship house. Rob is
in the doghout.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Do you think he's playing a good game.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Though, Well, we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He's got all the faithful's on his side now, so
he's playing a great game. Yeah, and you know, a
risky game. He's playing a risky game because now he's
got to go up against Candace, and Candace she doesn't play,
but he has the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He has the majority vote on his side, and Canda
it doesn't matter. Kansas could be anything she wants to him,
because quite frankly, he has been the trade that's been
staying out of all the shit. He's even put up
one of the trader's names, Lisa. Right So, right now
even nobody's thinking it's him.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They're convinced, they're convinced he's a faithful now.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, and they have and now you have Candace who's
now going to go after him. But right now, neither
one of them at this breakfast table like him, and
he knows it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, But Lisa tells Rob and Candace that she needs
their help today. I mean, Rob is really doing on
a one man's show with being a trader.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So I love how Candace is a ride or die.
She's like, listen, before Lisa even got there. She's like,
Lisa pulled this whole thing off on her own. We
got to help her out now because she's under the
glass or when she was there whatever. But Candas is
trying to say to Rob, he's like, well he said something,
and she's like, well, you're gonna have to do a
(11:51):
little more than nothing today, right, Like you're gonna have
to show up, You're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
To you have to pull your way, buddy, but but he's.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Pulling his weight on his own ends. He's pulling his
own weight. It's what he's pulling.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So at breakfast. The theories that they have right now,
Stephen because of the Tarot cards, so everyone tries to
figure out who the trader is, and Stephen because of
the terrot cards, Lisa because of the kiss to Yam Yam,
Natalie being so aggressive with the antidote, So that's what
they have to go off by. That's all they have
(12:34):
to go off on right now. Tara and Natalie both
apologize for jumping for the antidotes so fast, but it's
too late.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You showed your true colors.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That would be a smart thing for a trader to well,
not a smart thing, but I could. I think it
would be smart of a trader to want the antidote
because then it ruins their murder and that was a
hard thing to do. So it would make a lot
of sense for two traders to get up. Which two
traders should have gotten up because one of them would
(13:06):
have been able to get it Canvas and Rob should
have been on that. That's where their mistake was.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
When you played the game, did you ever misspeak or
anybody on your cast misspeak. We had a couple of
people miss you know, they miss spoke.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Porsia misspoke in the beginning, Porsia, did it happens?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I think a lot?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And when who was it?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Natalie said we murdered one before correcting ourself to say
we've banished one. I think when you say we, it's
like we as a whole as the game, like we
murdered that person last night.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Like here's what I think. I would think less of
somebody who slipped because traders don't slip. Traders are more
careful for their words.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So I wouldn't be chasing somebody who had. I would
actually check them out.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Of And you're because everyone that has slipped has not
been a t They've been faithful.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, traders watch everything they say, and everything they say
is is thought about and calculating, so they're not slipping.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, Tara and Lisa witness this, and so Lisa thinks
that this is what she has to get her, you know,
get the heat off of her.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And she's gonna her trump card.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, it's her trump card, and she's now going to
go after you know, she's going to bring it up
about Natalie's conversation, but as we know, it wasn't enough.
At first, I thought, oh boy, okay, Lisa's going to
be safe, and.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I never think and then I think she has been
done anyway, Yeah, whether I mean, I know that her
time was up.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I knew it was coming to an end, which made
me really sad. But I thought maybe she could possibly
pivot out of this and and blame Natalie, but it
just wasn't enough.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, especially since her fellow trader has the majority of
votes on his side and he's already voted for her. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
What did you think about this mission?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, I think all the missions are I love
all the missions to tell you, would you think.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That was good? So six players to retrieve the most
gold will have the chance to win a dagger, which
will grant them two votes at the round table. Rob
wins the dagger by stealing Natalie's tablet. Tablet. He was
able to tell she was lying, and I think I
was even able to tell she was lying. She kind
of looked at the side and licked her lips and
(15:37):
got a little nervous when she answered him.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Ah, when you look to the side, it's always that's
what they say.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But he was very he was very good at like,
let me ask you some simple questions to see how
you react, and then I'm going to ask you the
question to see how you react.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh, very cool, So.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
To tell like, does your body language? He's smart. He's
a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He said something in this episode where I said he
was smart. It was he used a certain word for
something he's I feel like this is a guy who's
read a lot in his life. He's a good vocabulary,
and he's he He just comes off because of the
(16:20):
way he looks. He can get away with. I think
people think underestimating him, which is the best defense as
a trader that could ever be. So he's got that
innocent cue American boy look, and he's not. But he's
also he's smarter than he looks. Is that what they say?
Don't judge a book by his cover. I don't know
(16:42):
why good looking people get a stigma that they're not smart.
I think because they're good looking at.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Us most aren't.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
No, because I like, you look at somebody and you say, wow,
you're so good looking, I hope you're stupid, Like you
want something, you want something to be wrong with them,
like when I see like a really beautiful girl and
then she's like, yeah, I'm getting my PhD. I'm like,
oh god, I was hoping for something.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I was hoping you're a dummy. But Rob is smart.
He is building trust with the Faithfuls. He's you know,
telling the six of them should pack together, keep this
a secret that he has the dagger, and it's just
another just smart way to build trust with the faithfuls. Yeah,
so he's kind of playing his own again.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He is playing this game like he's the only trader.
The mistake is when you're a trader is playing I
guess as the team. You could start off playing as
a team, but you can when it gets towards the
end and you know you're going to have to get
these traders out to win, then then I think that
(17:46):
your biggest enemies are your friends, are the other traders
more than the Faithfuls.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So then later at the round table, lest that brings
up that Natalie slipped and said we murdered. One who
doesn't really say anything says yeah, says she saw Lisa
kiss Jam Jam but she didn't in there, but it
was an air kiss. They show it. It's an air kiss.
She air kissed a few people.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
She jumps on any bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
She just goes with whoever says what. I'm not quite
sure she knows why she's there. And that's another one
that's just so pretty.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
She looked amazing in this photo shoot and she's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
She's studying now. Rob also goes after Lisa as well.
Same jam Jam would not throw her name out for
no reason.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, so jam Jam got her back. That's what I
want to say. He made sure when he left. He
was very convincing. Maura backed it up, and that was it.
That's all I would have needed. Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And unfortunately it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough for Lisa,
and she was she was banished about time.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They got another trader about time.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But okay, so Candace votes for Rob. Do you think
this vote is going to cost Candace the game?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Possibly? They're on to her. They're on to her. And
because she tried to deviate every vote that went towards Lisa,
who is a trader, she's next in line.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Colton wasn't as vocal this episode. He didn't have to be,
he didn't have to be said back and just smiled.
The damage was done, and he's another one smart, another
smart one.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
He's very smart.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
He's figured out Candace as well. So you know, the
very beginning we thought other traders could win this. Well,
there's one trader that could win it, and I think
it is Rob.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know what I want to tell you. I want
to say that if I was a trader and somebody
was really coming hard for me the way Colton was
coming for me mm hmm, I'd get rid of him
anyway because he's because by the time you murderer or whatever,
by the time you try to turn things around on
that person, it's already too late, too.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Late, And then then all you have to say is
a trader is like, well, of course he was murdered.
It makes me look like I'm a trader and it's
so obvious.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Exactly, So you can say that and you can use
that defense. So why not. See, I'm getting to learn
this game by talking about it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think you how to play the game you want, sweetie.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I know, true, but I'm saying that, like, if I
was a trader and somebody like Colton was coming for me,
he can go and I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's
me getting rid of the person coming from me and
playing sight Nope, sorry, wrong person.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, Candace knew she couldnot say Lisa, and she wanted
to send a clear message to Rob by voting for him,
Like two traders can play this game.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Bitch. Yeah, she sent a clear message to put a
target on her back. That's all she did. You think
Rob gives a shit that he got one vote from her?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think it was a very stupid I Candace should
have voted for Lisa.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Here's the thing. When you can't save your friends at
the roundtable, both of them, right, and I that's not
an easy thing for me to do, or it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It wouldn't be easy to do or say. But at
the end of the day, this is a game. So
the people that are going after Rob, like you and
after the housewife, she was a trader. He's playing a
game and he knows what he's doing. I know now, Lisa,
she started crying before she even got up there to
do her speech.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It can't be easy to say that, like, uh, well,
nobody really by this point, nobody ever even believed. Like
It's not like she had these amazing close knit ties
to anyone besides Candace, who's a trader too. It's not
like some some nice player faithfuls looking up to her
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and following her around like a puppy dog because they
trust her, you know what I mean. That's a that
must be hard for a trader when they have to
turn around and say, you know, I'm sorry I hurt you.
I know you trusted me. But I don't see anybody
following her around like that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I wonder how she's gonna react to Rob in the turret,
how they're going to move forward. She's got suspicion on
her now, and she knows that he can blow that up.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh he is holed out of nowhere. The silent one
is holding all the cards.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I know. What does she do next? Does she try
to sit down with him and say, listen.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They play trader and he played faithful. Yeah, but that's
what made.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Gets banished one day, and everybody is so like thinking
he's the most faithful of the faithfuls. Everyone's going to
be like an awe, like.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Oh yeah, like it's gonna be shit. The biggest surprise,
biggest surprise, because there's no way now that Candice voted
for him. But traders turn on each other towards the end,
they did fight, but you have to see an emotional
exchange between the two of them, like on mine. Like
I always say, when before I left and I asked
(23:11):
my mother about playing the game and I explained it
to her. She doesn't have peacock and I and I said,
how will I know who's who? And she goes evil
can't stay with evil now in my game?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Can you please write a book with all your moms.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She's like, it'll be easy for you. You'll see them turn
on each other, which is exactly what happened. My mother
left school at like fifteen years old. She's never even graduated.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
She's so smart.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
She's so smart, and that is what happened. So now
you're starting to see that here, Lise. I mean Candace
votes for him for no reason at all. That's a
red flag. But it's a red flag for him too.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
By the way, I forgot to ask you well off topic.
I had total fomo you were with Rodrige. I call
him rod Oh my god, him.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And his husband are so damn freaking.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I talked to them at Brava Khan and I just
I love him so much.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I didn't want them to leave, Like when I had
to leave them. I missed them. I enjoyed him so
very much. He's coming on. He wants to come on.
I know.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I told him, I go, you need to come on
the pod. You need to come on the pod.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
We need any Okay, help me on.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, Well then we'll get him on for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
He's now my favorite part of that show.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He's always been my favorite.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I've always liked him too, And I was so excited
to sit next to him and get to know him.
And I mean, they're just a lovely couple.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
They I don't know him on I don't know him
on like a personal level, like I've talked about Brava
Cohn and things like that, chatted with him on DMS,
but I don't know, you know what I mean, probably
would be nice to like.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, I was going to ask him about his kitchen,
but I was in I was asking him so many
other questions that I'll let him answer if we ask him.
But uh, they him and his husband adopt senior dogs
from shelters. They know it's a big hat. No more.
I will die for you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, he was talking about what a good person you
are to me.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Oh, you got to talk to him after I met him.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, so the traders split up. Rob is pissed that
Candace voted him. He did the same thing to Lisa,
So how can he even how could he be pissed
about it?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I thought about that's the world of double standard that
we live in, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I mean it's a yeah, it's a double standard for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You think if Candace gets banished, people will be suspicious
of him?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Right now he is. He is safe as can be.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Let me tell you something. There's two ways to win
this game. It's strategy and it's gaining the trust of everyone.
And right now, all he had to do was gain
the trust of all the faithfuls. His own people can't
murder him, and the people he has on his side
would have the power to banish him, and they're not.
(26:23):
So he's hearing the game, right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Do you think there's a world where they're going to
recruit Colton as a trader?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Ooh, I didn't even think about recruitments. Who do you
think Rob would pick Colt? Who do you think Candace
would pick?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I don't know who Candace would pick.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
See, I wouldn't pick Calder That could change it. Yeah,
I think I think Candace would. Candace is a true
blue housewife, Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I think Yeah, I think so too. What about Rob's
comment as he's walking out the door, is it a
turret full of housewives?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
He said that, did Kandace hair? No?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, he said it to the other. Do you think
it's like a turret full of housewives?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Dirty bitch?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I know already trying to put suspicion on Candace.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Oh, he's got he now. Now she just made an enemy,
so she in trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean they meet in the turret, and they did,
were left on a cliffhanger. It's every trader for themselves.
Who will be the last traders standing?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh let's see.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think that Rob's going to go in and try
to convince.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Everybody with Colt in front of her.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And then he's going to recruit Colton as a trader.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Colton, I wouldn't. I wouldn't recruit Colton. I wouldn't because
he's too much under the glass. There's he could be
used as a sh at the roundtable.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So who would let's say, Candice goes, who would he
recruit as a trader?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't know, but I don't think Carlton would be
the right move. He's just too he's too wild, he's untrustworthy.
I think he would get in his head if he
got into the tourre it. He's not trustworthy.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
None of them are. It's like being on Housewives. You
can't trust any of them. Well that's how we have
for you guys today. It was an amazing episode. They
hyped it up. It was great and I can't watch
it again. Yeah, at least at dinner party.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, for sure, pay attention to the little details.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Woof ah. Next season's going to be hard to be.
It is, this actual episode is going to be hard
to be next.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I'm just hooked. I mean I've been telling it everybody.
We went to dinner with a couple that have never
watched it, and I'm like, oh, you have to watch it.
Just go straight to four. It is so good. I mean,
they're all good.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But I think my favorite part of this episode, you know,
was the dinner scene. But to see everybody start to
break down their personalities under the pressure of I could
be going right now, and it really, like I said,
it really showed me the weak links.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Sure did. Though everybody's true colors.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All right. We'll see you guys next week for another
episode of By Order of the Faithful. Bye.
Hi, guys, welcome back to my Order of the Faithfuls.
It's just me and Dolores today. Wells is out doing
whatever he's doing, and I'm bummed because this was a
really good episode and I feel like he would have
had a lot to say about it totally. Let's talk
a little bit about the black banquet looks.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The cinematics. They were amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I mean everybody was dressed to their personality, that's for sure.
I mean everybody was dressed great. There was do you
think they dressed them so for.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All of you who don't know there is a costume
maker in the castle.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Who we didn't have a costume maker. We had like
a wardrobe like a wardrobe slash costume room upstairs that
we could pick from or pull from. But these were
like made special, amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
They were all amazing. I think Lisa Rena's was runway qutore,
I have to say, because she is that bitch.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
She is that bitch everyone's. I really like Rob's. It
was so so fitting for him.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I loved it. The print was amazing. Yeah, I'd love
to see him dressed fully dressed for once.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm fine with him not dressed. What about what do
you think about Colton's crystal head piece, and it was
too much with the pearl, Like it was just too much.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But listen, it's a costumed joke. It's not a joke.
It's like it's a theatrical it's theatrical.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yes, yes, yeah, So I just want to share this.
Page six came up with an article about Lisa Renna
saying she burst into tears reflect on how difficult it
was leaving The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, that it
really did affect her. She was on the show for
eight years. Well she's kind of, you know, claimed like
(01:52):
she quit the show, she'll never go back. Seems a
little bit felt maybe feels a little burned by the show.
Maybe I'm not sure. That's kind of the energy she'd
given off. But so I thought like she was like,
good riddance. But she basically said that she was on
for eight years, the longest job in her thirty five
(02:12):
year career. She expressed gratitude for the experience and the
time she spent on the franchise. It also mentions that
Renna addressed a controversy involving fellow Trader contestant Colton Underwood.
So when she called him a stalker on social media.
He got death threats.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah. Yeah. She had to come on and say, you know,
we're good. Yeah, you don't do this.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And she clarified it on Instagram, saying it's a game,
not personal. I just said it in the spirit of
the game. I think he already gets a lot of
shit for that on social media from his chest. I
want to bring it and resurface it all.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah. I wouldn't have brought that. I think I would
have used a different choice of words. But not everybody
thinks before they speak. Yeah, I know she's not one
that's known to do that either.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I got. I just talked to Heather to brow and
she goes, I saw you said you're gonna blow things up.
I go. I was joking, I go. I said, it
was actually my unbothered era that I'm going into for
twenty twenty six. That's my word. Remember you told me
to think of a word for twenty twenty six. I'm
mine is very unbothered. I'm just unbothered. Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I haven't come up with one yet.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I was joking when I said I'm blow shit up.
You know, Jeff gets me.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Going, ah, he does, he gets everyone going, he really does.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But anyway, so Lisa must complete. It starts off where
Lisa must complete her murder in plain sight. And it
was pretty genius how she did it, didn't you think?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You know? Before I watched it, I thought of the
same idea, because you did. I did one hundred thousand
her scent before she did it, I'm like I would
say like, oh my god, Auch, can you help me?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And yeah, And it wasn't even brought up later on,
like it was never It was more about the air
kiss than anything, right, right, because they don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They just don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And she kind of was like a little dramatic about it.
She's like, oh, oh, like you know what I mean.
I think I would have been like, oh crap, just
poked me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think actually at the table, Derinda got more shit
than Lisa until until jam jam started going off, But
before that they were really looking at Derinda.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So Alan had said many, many, many interviews leading up
to it, that this was the most iconic episode in
Trader history. Did it live up to the hype?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It did? It was good? Might say it did?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean just visually.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes, agreed The outfits, the idea of it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I would have liked to see more of it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I love the brooch. The brooch was beautiful. It should
be in a museum now, the Traders Museum. You know,
people are gonna use that for different things. But I
think that this was amazing. And the fact that there
was antidope and to have everybody implode on each other
at the table, you really got to see people's character
(05:25):
at this point. Now it's now everybody. It's how like
human nature, when people get closer to wanting something, how
nasty they're going to get over it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, well, Alan, his outfit was insanity. All the pearls
on his face, the pearls on his outfits. Then he
comes walking.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Out with two mass guards like it was pretty creepy,
but visually.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It was just so amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was just I'm gonna watch it again.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh me too. I made Eddie watch it with me
because he hasn't watched any of the season, and then
he goes, is this the season finale? I go, no, Edie,
this episode seven.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm kind of glad because I'm really enjoying this season.
And as much as I was enjoying it, I was
still saying, oh, I still think mine was better until
last night because our murder and plaining sight was. I
didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What was it? Remind me?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Three people had to be in the coffin? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
we got called out. There was a bunch of coffins
and there was like smoke and all these torches outside
lit and then it was like, okay, three of you
get in the coffin.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But like, compared to this, compared to this, this is amazing. Yeah.
But the thing is there's a twist. They can be saved.
So two players will have the chance to drink the antidote,
which can prevent them from being murdered. And this is
where we see everybody lose their shit.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right, this is Natalie and Tarra going at it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Why did Natalie remind me? Why did she think that
she possibly someone.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Served her food? Okay, and everybody was eating the same
food so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And somebody came out and said, guys, it's not the food.
That would be too obvious. It's been done before. I
was like, drink out of a chalice? Remember that on
season two?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That was good? That wasn't Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Especially a rusty old child. Here, have a drink.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Really, you must be thirsty.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I love how Johnny grabbed the antidote for Kristen, Hare
you need this.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I love that. That's a nice friend. Yeah. Then they're like,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
She just did Yamah is his name Yam Yam or
jam john.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They called him jam Jam. It's spelled Yam yam. So
he's going to kiss me. Lisa kissed me, But he did.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He didn't even really try for the antidote, did he?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No? Not really, no, he just because the people that
did try for it were so aggressive towards it, which
kind of turned me off to them for the rest
of the season. I'm I don't look at them different.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, Natalie and Kristen. Is that we were talking.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
About Natalie, Kristin and Tara.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So Tara was the one that was blaming Derenda, and
Derenda's like, oh, you could see the panic on her face, like,
oh shit, now I'm gonna get blamed and people are
gonna come for me. I'm skating under everybody's radar for
the past six episodes. Leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I kept saying Jam Jam was scared. He kept
saying Lisa, Lisa Lisa. Lisa immediately immediately when they were
told that something happened at this dinner, he leaned over
and he said, Lisa kissed me. So maybe he was
wrong about it, but he was also right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
He was right. He was yes, I'm saying, and he was.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Wrong at the same time.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Are you shocked that he didn't say anything about the brooch?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
No, No, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I wonder if he thought about it later.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I wonder if he was on the way home when
you go back to your room and start hacking, right,
So I think it was more the kiss, because in
our minds, if you've ever watched The Godfather, the kiss
is always the kiss of death.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Kiss a death right.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, I can murder them. So I feel like
that was really in his Or you.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Put a horse head in their bed, right right.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That'll be the next murder.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And plain sight as he was going, he said, it's Lisa,
it's Lisa, it's Lisa.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It was worked up, and they've really grabbed him and
took them off the seat. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I mean, we saw a flashback or I looked at
the kiss and it wasn't air kiss. It didn't really
matter one way or the other. And the next morning,
the three traders walk into the breakfast first. So that
was very.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Lisa's right now, knowing her time is coming close. I
think because he was screaming her name was he was
being carried out. There's no way if I was at
that table that I wouldn't have been having an eye
on Lisa thinking it. And now Candace, you know, moving forward,
(10:04):
eyes on her as well, so they go pretty heavy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I was concerned when Candace started sticking up for Lisa,
because every time Lisa's name's brought up for different reasons,
she would always stick up for her. And I'm like,
I don't think that's good. I don't think you should
be doing that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right now, Rob is in the ship house. Rob is
in the doghout.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Do you think he's playing a good game.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Though, Well, we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He's got all the faithful's on his side now, so
he's playing a great game. Yeah, and you know, a
risky game. He's playing a risky game because now he's
got to go up against Candace, and Candace she doesn't play,
but he has the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He has the majority vote on his side, and Canda
it doesn't matter. Kansas could be anything she wants to him,
because quite frankly, he has been the trade that's been
staying out of all the shit. He's even put up
one of the trader's names, Lisa. Right So, right now
even nobody's thinking it's him.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They're convinced, they're convinced he's a faithful now.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, and they have and now you have Candace who's
now going to go after him. But right now, neither
one of them at this breakfast table like him, and
he knows it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, But Lisa tells Rob and Candace that she needs
their help today. I mean, Rob is really doing on
a one man's show with being a trader.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So I love how Candace is a ride or die.
She's like, listen, before Lisa even got there. She's like,
Lisa pulled this whole thing off on her own. We
got to help her out now because she's under the
glass or when she was there whatever. But Candas is
trying to say to Rob, he's like, well he said something,
and she's like, well, you're gonna have to do a
(11:51):
little more than nothing today, right, Like you're gonna have
to show up, You're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
To you have to pull your way, buddy, but but he's.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Pulling his weight on his own ends. He's pulling his
own weight. It's what he's pulling.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So at breakfast. The theories that they have right now,
Stephen because of the Tarot cards, so everyone tries to
figure out who the trader is, and Stephen because of
the terrot cards, Lisa because of the kiss to Yam Yam,
Natalie being so aggressive with the antidote, So that's what
they have to go off by. That's all they have
(12:34):
to go off on right now. Tara and Natalie both
apologize for jumping for the antidotes so fast, but it's
too late.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You showed your true colors.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That would be a smart thing for a trader to well,
not a smart thing, but I could. I think it
would be smart of a trader to want the antidote
because then it ruins their murder and that was a
hard thing to do. So it would make a lot
of sense for two traders to get up. Which two
traders should have gotten up because one of them would
(13:06):
have been able to get it Canvas and Rob should
have been on that. That's where their mistake was.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
When you played the game, did you ever misspeak or
anybody on your cast misspeak. We had a couple of
people miss you know, they miss spoke.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Porsia misspoke in the beginning, Porsia, did it happens?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I think a lot?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And when who was it?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Natalie said we murdered one before correcting ourself to say
we've banished one. I think when you say we, it's
like we as a whole as the game, like we
murdered that person last night.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Like here's what I think. I would think less of
somebody who slipped because traders don't slip. Traders are more
careful for their words.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So I wouldn't be chasing somebody who had. I would
actually check them out.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Of And you're because everyone that has slipped has not
been a t They've been faithful.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, traders watch everything they say, and everything they say
is is thought about and calculating, so they're not slipping.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, Tara and Lisa witness this, and so Lisa thinks
that this is what she has to get her, you know,
get the heat off of her.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And she's gonna her trump card.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, it's her trump card, and she's now going to
go after you know, she's going to bring it up
about Natalie's conversation, but as we know, it wasn't enough.
At first, I thought, oh boy, okay, Lisa's going to
be safe, and.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I never think and then I think she has been
done anyway, Yeah, whether I mean, I know that her
time was up.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I knew it was coming to an end, which made
me really sad. But I thought maybe she could possibly
pivot out of this and and blame Natalie, but it
just wasn't enough.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, especially since her fellow trader has the majority of
votes on his side and he's already voted for her. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
What did you think about this mission?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, I think all the missions are I love
all the missions to tell you, would you think.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That was good? So six players to retrieve the most
gold will have the chance to win a dagger, which
will grant them two votes at the round table. Rob
wins the dagger by stealing Natalie's tablet. Tablet. He was
able to tell she was lying, and I think I
was even able to tell she was lying. She kind
of looked at the side and licked her lips and
(15:37):
got a little nervous when she answered him.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Ah, when you look to the side, it's always that's
what they say.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But he was very he was very good at like,
let me ask you some simple questions to see how
you react, and then I'm going to ask you the
question to see how you react.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh, very cool, So.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
To tell like, does your body language? He's smart. He's
a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He said something in this episode where I said he
was smart. It was he used a certain word for
something he's I feel like this is a guy who's
read a lot in his life. He's a good vocabulary,
and he's he He just comes off because of the
(16:20):
way he looks. He can get away with. I think
people think underestimating him, which is the best defense as
a trader that could ever be. So he's got that
innocent cue American boy look, and he's not. But he's
also he's smarter than he looks. Is that what they say?
Don't judge a book by his cover. I don't know
(16:42):
why good looking people get a stigma that they're not smart.
I think because they're good looking at.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Us most aren't.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
No, because I like, you look at somebody and you say, wow,
you're so good looking, I hope you're stupid, Like you
want something, you want something to be wrong with them,
like when I see like a really beautiful girl and
then she's like, yeah, I'm getting my PhD. I'm like,
oh god, I was hoping for something.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I was hoping you're a dummy. But Rob is smart.
He is building trust with the Faithfuls. He's you know,
telling the six of them should pack together, keep this
a secret that he has the dagger, and it's just
another just smart way to build trust with the faithfuls. Yeah,
so he's kind of playing his own again.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He is playing this game like he's the only trader.
The mistake is when you're a trader is playing I
guess as the team. You could start off playing as
a team, but you can when it gets towards the
end and you know you're going to have to get
these traders out to win, then then I think that
(17:46):
your biggest enemies are your friends, are the other traders
more than the Faithfuls.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So then later at the round table, lest that brings
up that Natalie slipped and said we murdered. One who
doesn't really say anything says yeah, says she saw Lisa
kiss Jam Jam but she didn't in there, but it
was an air kiss. They show it. It's an air kiss.
She air kissed a few people.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
She jumps on any bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
She just goes with whoever says what. I'm not quite
sure she knows why she's there. And that's another one
that's just so pretty.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
She looked amazing in this photo shoot and she's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
She's studying now. Rob also goes after Lisa as well.
Same jam Jam would not throw her name out for
no reason.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, so jam Jam got her back. That's what I
want to say. He made sure when he left. He
was very convincing. Maura backed it up, and that was it.
That's all I would have needed. Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And unfortunately it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough for Lisa,
and she was she was banished about time.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They got another trader about time.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But okay, so Candace votes for Rob. Do you think
this vote is going to cost Candace the game?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Possibly? They're on to her. They're on to her. And
because she tried to deviate every vote that went towards Lisa,
who is a trader, she's next in line.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Colton wasn't as vocal this episode. He didn't have to be,
he didn't have to be said back and just smiled.
The damage was done, and he's another one smart, another
smart one.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
He's very smart.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
He's figured out Candace as well. So you know, the
very beginning we thought other traders could win this. Well,
there's one trader that could win it, and I think
it is Rob.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know what I want to tell you. I want
to say that if I was a trader and somebody
was really coming hard for me the way Colton was
coming for me mm hmm, I'd get rid of him
anyway because he's because by the time you murderer or whatever,
by the time you try to turn things around on
that person, it's already too late, too.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Late, And then then all you have to say is
a trader is like, well, of course he was murdered.
It makes me look like I'm a trader and it's
so obvious.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Exactly, So you can say that and you can use
that defense. So why not. See, I'm getting to learn
this game by talking about it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think you how to play the game you want, sweetie.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I know, true, but I'm saying that, like, if I
was a trader and somebody like Colton was coming for me,
he can go and I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's
me getting rid of the person coming from me and
playing sight Nope, sorry, wrong person.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, Candace knew she couldnot say Lisa, and she wanted
to send a clear message to Rob by voting for him,
Like two traders can play this game.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Bitch. Yeah, she sent a clear message to put a
target on her back. That's all she did. You think
Rob gives a shit that he got one vote from her?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think it was a very stupid I Candace should
have voted for Lisa.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Here's the thing. When you can't save your friends at
the roundtable, both of them, right, and I that's not
an easy thing for me to do, or it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It wouldn't be easy to do or say. But at
the end of the day, this is a game. So
the people that are going after Rob, like you and
after the housewife, she was a trader. He's playing a
game and he knows what he's doing. I know now, Lisa,
she started crying before she even got up there to
do her speech.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It can't be easy to say that, like, uh, well,
nobody really by this point, nobody ever even believed. Like
It's not like she had these amazing close knit ties
to anyone besides Candace, who's a trader too. It's not
like some some nice player faithfuls looking up to her
(21:55):
and following her around like a puppy dog because they
trust her, you know what I mean. That's a that
must be hard for a trader when they have to
turn around and say, you know, I'm sorry I hurt you.
I know you trusted me. But I don't see anybody
following her around like that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I wonder how she's gonna react to Rob in the turret,
how they're going to move forward. She's got suspicion on
her now, and she knows that he can blow that up.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh he is holed out of nowhere. The silent one
is holding all the cards.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I know. What does she do next? Does she try
to sit down with him and say, listen.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They play trader and he played faithful. Yeah, but that's
what made.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Gets banished one day, and everybody is so like thinking
he's the most faithful of the faithfuls. Everyone's going to
be like an awe, like.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Oh yeah, like it's gonna be shit. The biggest surprise,
biggest surprise, because there's no way now that Candice voted
for him. But traders turn on each other towards the end,
they did fight, but you have to see an emotional
exchange between the two of them, like on mine. Like
I always say, when before I left and I asked
(23:11):
my mother about playing the game and I explained it
to her. She doesn't have peacock and I and I said,
how will I know who's who? And she goes evil
can't stay with evil now in my game?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Can you please write a book with all your moms.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She's like, it'll be easy for you. You'll see them turn
on each other, which is exactly what happened. My mother
left school at like fifteen years old. She's never even graduated.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
She's so smart.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
She's so smart, and that is what happened. So now
you're starting to see that here, Lise. I mean Candace
votes for him for no reason at all. That's a
red flag. But it's a red flag for him too.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
By the way, I forgot to ask you well off topic.
I had total fomo you were with Rodrige. I call
him rod Oh my god, him.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And his husband are so damn freaking.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I talked to them at Brava Khan and I just
I love him so much.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I didn't want them to leave, Like when I had
to leave them. I missed them. I enjoyed him so
very much. He's coming on. He wants to come on.
I know.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I told him, I go, you need to come on
the pod. You need to come on the pod.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
We need any Okay, help me on.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, Well then we'll get him on for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
He's now my favorite part of that show.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He's always been my favorite.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I've always liked him too, And I was so excited
to sit next to him and get to know him.
And I mean, they're just a lovely couple.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
They I don't know him on I don't know him
on like a personal level, like I've talked about Brava
Cohn and things like that, chatted with him on DMS,
but I don't know, you know what I mean, probably
would be nice to like.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, I was going to ask him about his kitchen,
but I was in I was asking him so many
other questions that I'll let him answer if we ask him.
But uh, they him and his husband adopt senior dogs
from shelters. They know it's a big hat. No more.
I will die for you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, he was talking about what a good person you
are to me.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Oh, you got to talk to him after I met him.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, so the traders split up. Rob is pissed that
Candace voted him. He did the same thing to Lisa,
So how can he even how could he be pissed
about it?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I thought about that's the world of double standard that
we live in, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I mean it's a yeah, it's a double standard for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You think if Candace gets banished, people will be suspicious
of him?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Right now he is. He is safe as can be.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Let me tell you something. There's two ways to win
this game. It's strategy and it's gaining the trust of everyone.
And right now, all he had to do was gain
the trust of all the faithfuls. His own people can't
murder him, and the people he has on his side
would have the power to banish him, and they're not.
(26:23):
So he's hearing the game, right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Do you think there's a world where they're going to
recruit Colton as a trader?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Ooh, I didn't even think about recruitments. Who do you
think Rob would pick Colt? Who do you think Candace
would pick?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I don't know who Candace would pick.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
See, I wouldn't pick Calder That could change it. Yeah,
I think I think Candace would. Candace is a true
blue housewife, Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I think Yeah, I think so too. What about Rob's
comment as he's walking out the door, is it a
turret full of housewives?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
He said that, did Kandace hair? No?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, he said it to the other. Do you think
it's like a turret full of housewives?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Dirty bitch?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I know already trying to put suspicion on Candace.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Oh, he's got he now. Now she just made an enemy,
so she in trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean they meet in the turret, and they did,
were left on a cliffhanger. It's every trader for themselves.
Who will be the last traders standing?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh let's see.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think that Rob's going to go in and try
to convince.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Everybody with Colt in front of her.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And then he's going to recruit Colton as a trader.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Colton, I wouldn't. I wouldn't recruit Colton. I wouldn't because
he's too much under the glass. There's he could be
used as a sh at the roundtable.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So who would let's say, Candice goes, who would he
recruit as a trader?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't know, but I don't think Carlton would be
the right move. He's just too he's too wild, he's untrustworthy.
I think he would get in his head if he
got into the tourre it. He's not trustworthy.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
None of them are. It's like being on Housewives. You
can't trust any of them. Well that's how we have
for you guys today. It was an amazing episode. They
hyped it up. It was great and I can't watch
it again. Yeah, at least at dinner party.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, for sure, pay attention to the little details.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Woof ah. Next season's going to be hard to be.
It is, this actual episode is going to be hard
to be next.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I'm just hooked. I mean I've been telling it everybody.
We went to dinner with a couple that have never
watched it, and I'm like, oh, you have to watch it.
Just go straight to four. It is so good. I mean,
they're all good.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But I think my favorite part of this episode, you know,
was the dinner scene. But to see everybody start to
break down their personalities under the pressure of I could
be going right now, and it really, like I said,
it really showed me the weak links.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Sure did. Though everybody's true colors.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All right. We'll see you guys next week for another
episode of By Order of the Faithful. Bye.
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