March 27, 2026 • 30 mins
Kim Spradlin Wolfe, one of the all-time favorite winners in Survivor history, is joining Wells and Dolores to relive her time on the show. Even though she’s a legend to us, apparently her kids don’t find her Survivor performance as commendable…
Plus, she didn’t get the call for Season 50, but did she want to go back in the first place?! What does she think separates a good Survivor player from a GREAT Survivor player? What was the best life lesson she learned from this game?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in, all you Faithfuls, traders and survivors. You're in
for another episode of By Order of the Faithful, as
well as Adams alongside Dolores Catania. Dolores, you look all
dulled up? Are you filming today?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No, just for you, I figure, just because I like
when you tell me I look pretty.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is every day for you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh you're the Well, you're such a good guy. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
How you been.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I've been good? Yeah, since I've seen you. My daughter
got engaged, so.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It looked like she got engaged, like on the top
of a mountain.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
They were snowboarding, and I didn't realize there was a
time difference there in Aspen, so that's why we didn't
get the call when I expected it. She was really shocked.
She was surprised, and I'm happy for them. So that's
now three weddings in the family coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh man, well you like this guy?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I do. I like him. They're in law, young love.
They love each other. So you know, I had the
man talk with him.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, did he ask? Did he ask for your permission
to do this?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? He did?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, good, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, he did.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, tell your your daughter and you're soon to be
son in law. Congratulations and mousel, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And what have you been doing.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm in New York right now. My wife's finishing her
Broadway run, so I flew out here to help her
move back and I finally get my wife back and
she'll no longer be making out with Jonathan Graff eight
times a week.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But wow, it's like it's like you guys are seeing
each other for the first time again. You know, I'm
all about long distance sometimes and missing each other. That
is so important to miss each other and to be
as as confident, not confident, what it is to have
the trust in your relationship that you have. I really
(02:01):
think you have an amazing relationship. I love the two
of you. I think she's adorable. I love when you
post pictures of her dancing with the dogs and he's
so cute. I can't You guys are are a great
couple and I love it. But speaking of being a
part for a long time, you know, my show's coming back.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
An asked you yesterday, are you excited about this?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, but there's new people coming on Wells and I
don't know who they are, so you you know, you
really it's better I believe the devil you know, than
the devil you don't, So after you know, I feel
bad that the whole cast didn't come back. That's rough,
you know, a little rough.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Why what's the politics behind that? Why don't all all
the casts come back? They not want to? Or are
they not fighted?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
There was a shake up. NBC felt that they needed
to move some things around, so that's what they did.
And yeah, so so it's bittersweet, but it's back to work.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Well, I'm very excited about that. Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Are you going to watch my show?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I absolutely am going to watch your show. This is
going to be the first, the first housewife show I
think I've ever watched.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I want you to start getting into housewives wells, because
being a gentleman like you are, I want to know
your opinion on things like I like your point of
view on things, and I like the way you articulate it,
and it's always just very proper and nice and just right.
So I would love to hear your opinion on housewife
shows well.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And someone who I've worked with in the past in
Ashley and I Keneddi and Jared Abblin going to be
on the show.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That's going to be Yeah, well no, that's on Rhode Island. Yeah,
New Jersey is getting back, but Rhode Island's coming out.
And you know you have to watch that.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yes, I will, I will watch. Maybe we should recap that, We.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Definitely absolutely should. And just to give you a little teaser,
she cries, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, I remember, I remember a lot. Well, I'm excited
about today's episodes. Today we've got Kim Spradland Wolf, who's
an American reality TV personality and interior designer, best known
for winning Survivor one World Back in twenty twelve, taking
home the million dollar grand prize and being voted the
sprint Player of the Season by the fans. After initial win,
(04:23):
she returned to compete on Survivor Winners at War in
twenty twenty, where she placed nine. Following Survivor, Kim transition
into the interior design space with their business, Kim Wolf Home.
She also hosts a home renovation show on HGTV, including
Why the Heck Did I Buy This House with her
husband Brian Wolf. Please welcome to by order of the
(04:46):
Faithful Survivor Edition, Kim spradland Wolf. Hi, guys, welcome to
the show. Kim Thanks so much for taking some time
and chatting with us. Are you watching season fifty? Are
you are you in French like we are?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh? Yes, I were very much watching season fifty. I
actually have not watched since forty when I went on
Winners at War, I like just took a hiatus from watching,
and so this is my first season back watching and
I am absolutely loving it. It's also the first time
I've ever watched with my kids, who are nine, ten
and eleven, and that has completely changed and made it
(05:24):
so much more fun to watch. And they have lots
of thoughts and opinions and so it's been great.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh that is so cute. Did you teach them a
lot about it?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, they had never really watched. They came on sea
on the family visit and they were like three, four
and five, and so this summer they started watching for
the first time. They watched my first season, which was
twenty four, which was you know, The Ice Ages of Survivor,
and particularly the oldest is like very into it and
wants to talk about it and tell me all of
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his thoughts. So it's fun. We're having fun.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
They have an understanding that you are like one of
the greats and Survivor lore.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
They do not think so. They I've told them, but
they are like, we don't see how we don't think
they are good. Or also they watched my first season
and they're like, you look like AI. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Wait, well, some day you're gonna have kids that don't
think they're that you and your wife are cool. Don't worry. Yeah, exactly,
You'll know how we feel, you.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Know, being one of the greats. When you watch it back,
what do you think it was about your game that
really stuck out to people and and had you kind
of win that first season and then get ninth and
the second time you went on.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Gosh, I think the farther I get from it, the
more it just seems like such a crazy, you know,
fluke thing that it just went so well for me.
That's really the thing that I remember most is just
how everything fell into place. It felt so easy. There
was truly not like one vote that I did not
know where it was going, and so it was just
this like easy z path to the end. It was
(07:01):
weird almost kind of like eerily perfect. And then the
second time was the complete opposite of that. So I've
now been on that side of the of the table
where it's like I didn't know most of the things
and everything surprised me, and I was always on the
outs and I was so frustrated the whole time. So
I feel like I've kind of waked these like polar
extreme journeys on my two seasons.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You know, So now that you know both sides, is
there a way that you can cement yourself in this game?
Because there an actual I call my game of Fluke
on Traders, So I don't know, I wouldn't. I think
it changes all the time. But is there a way
to do that?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think it's you know, I think certain people maybe have,
you know, if you think of like an arsenal of
tools that you get to put in your tool belt
when you go play. I think some people have, you know,
a wider variety of tools at their disposal to play
with and have better chance of cementing themselves into something
that has some longevity. But I do think so much
of it is is luck, you know, I mean, so
(08:01):
much of it is where you land. And I think
it's really difficult. I think the game has changed so much.
I mean Winners at War was a great example of this.
There's so much change in movement from day to day
that you know, it just it really amplifies kind of
the chaos of it because it's constantly moving. I think
it's a really hard thing to stay on top of.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
We're finding out that, you know, Rizzo really wants to
be one of the greats. He keeps talking about it
a little braggadociously almost any do you have any advice
for Rizzo going forward? Does he need to pump the
brakes on some of this dialogue he's having about being
one of the greats.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah. I did think it was so fascinating watching some
of the other players talked to him last night at
tribal about like he hadn't seen himself yet. And I
do think that was such I mean, y'all know, you
go on reality TV and then you watch yourself back
and there are certain things that are great and there's
certain things that are just wildly humble about it, and
he has not had that that moment yet. I think
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that is a a trying process to watch yourself on
national television and get all the feedback positive and not positive.
Rizzo's just feels so young to me when I watch him.
I mean, he just he is and you can sense that.
But I love his confidence and like you know, effort vescence,
and that he is, you know, kind of unshakable in
(09:24):
that way. I'll be so curious to see if Survivor
continues on and he continues to play, like how he
you know, ages and kind of matures as a player.
But he's funny. My kids love him.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I can see that. He's like a puppy. I
feel like he's the he's the puppy.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Of the group.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But what what do you think separates a good Survivor
player from a great Survivor player?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That's a great question. So they're just you know, I
feel like when you look across the board at the greats,
they're all so different.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You're one of the greats.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So in case you don't realize, that's the the dust
off the bottle. Yeah, I feel so funny doing this.
I haven't done it in forever. I think the great
I think it's a lot in how you treat people,
because I really think when it comes down to the end,
like all these you know, all the chaos happens, all
the swaps, all the shifts, and I one of my
(10:18):
core beliefs and I don't. I don't know if I
got to think about it, if I still really believe this,
but I think I do. Is that you know, at
the end of the day, you get to the end
and people really vote for, yes, the person that they
think played a great game, but they vote for the
person that they want to give the money to. And
I think you have to to kind of show up
as someone that people want to hand a million dollars too.
I don't think people want to give a million dollars
(10:39):
to an asshole, you.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, truth, and I think that's underestimated.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, and you can be a villain, you can you know,
you know, be cutthroat and be strategic and still be likable.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, I don't think people get that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, Yeah, I think some people miss on just the
connection part, you know. I think there's even some players
this season that like, you know, and again, this could
all come down to the edit. I didn't watch Genevieve's
original season, but you know, there's a little bit of
this thing that she's doing to Aubrey which doesn't feel
likable to me, and it's subtle, and I think Genevieve's
(11:13):
getting a great edit. I think she seems likable, but
there's a way it kind of feels a little bit
like the Plastics for mean Girls, where it's like Aubrey's
clearly on the outs and there's sort of a condescension
to her, And I think that's where it gets interesting
and emerge, you know, where potentially Aubrey gets with Ozzy
and Ozzy's got his foot in the door with you know,
a group, and now Aubrey goes over and Genevieve's on
(11:33):
the outs. So it just it's so fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Speaking of edit, that's I've been wanting to talk to
past Survivor winners about the edit. You know, I come
from this bachelor, a Bachelor in Paradise world where a
lot of people talk about, well I got a bad edit,
they villainize me. That's not really how it went. And
going back to Rizzio, Rizzo hasn't seen you know, himself
(11:58):
represented on TV. Yet. Is i'd a thing that you
guys talk about that like so and so got a
bad at it or was made to look in a
different light than they really were.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, I would be curious to hear what y'all's experience
has been being you know, from like different show world.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, I could tell you mine.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I think for me personally, every season that I have
played and watched back and some of the ones where
I just know the people personally, there's obvious this like
amplification of a character, but they always feel somewhat in
line with like how I know this person to be.
I've never seen them take someone and completely turn them
into someone else. It feels like it's you know, you
(12:40):
boil it down, it's like a reduction, right and so,
but I always feel like the person I'm like, you
did say that, you did show up in that energy
or in that spirit, and you know you just got
a lot of it all at once in thirty minutes.
But you know, I've never seen them just like completely
you know, make someone look some way with.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Words in their mouth that they didn't say. Yeah, I
feel like coming from reality where I come from, anyone
who feels stupid about the way they acted kind of
to echo what you're saying or to say, oh, that's
not what it because your brain play stretch on you. Right,
You're like, I don't remember it to be that way,
(13:20):
but it's clearly the cameras don't lie. So a lot
of people want to blame it on the edit when
they don't like the way they looked or the way
that they came off, and it is amplified, yes, because
it is in production and they want to make it
look like a great scene and it's boiled down to
this thirty minutes or whatever. But yeah, I don't really
(13:42):
blame bad edits. I don't believe in bad edits. I
believe like you actually did that and gave it to
them to put up there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I definitely think people try to show up the way
they think production wants them to be, and they you know,
are trying to like rise to, you know, some character
that they feel like they've been cast to portray, and
sometimes that goes really well, and sometimes that doesn't go
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You have to accept if you're a villain, you have
to accept that you're a villain.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Be good, be a fun one, be a fun one exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I've always found that, like to your point of like
you think you're being cast as a certain character, if
you don't really know who you are going into any show,
then you're going to act like something that you think
you're supposed to be, which doesn't come across as authentic,
which generally comes across as off putting to the audience
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because they can sense something's not right about you, and
that's an easy way to make someone look villainous. But
from my standpoint, it's much easier to make someone look
It's much easier to make an asshole look good than
it is to make a good guy look like an asshole.
And so usually what I find is that more often
than not, when I'm watching a pack, I'm thinking, Wow,
(14:55):
that person got it such a good edit in comparison
to what I remember experiencing during a show and how
everyone felt about them. But you know, actually that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I can agree with, yeah, yeah, that I feel like
I liked less in person than I liked on the show.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You come you come from, you know,
back in the day. You're kind of an OG player.
Do you think the new era players have it just
as hard as you had on your seasons?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know, I wonder that, you know, I do feel
like sometimes these old era players have more of a
target on their back, But then you watch it and
you're like, they shouldn't because in a lot of ways
they're behind strategically because they had this very different experience
of you know, real bonds and real relationships with it,
which I think, you know, don't really seem to stand
the test of time in modern survivor. So I think
(15:54):
that these new era players, you know, in some ways
are going to have just as big of a target
on their backs as you know, Colby or Ozzie or Coach,
who I don't think are just these wild strategic threats,
you know, they're kind of more of these like you know,
good old boys.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
See. I think Siri is a threat, terrifying. She's terrifying
to me. I would have wanted her off the eye
and I love Surri out of respect, I want her off.
I'm I'm nervous for everyone around her. Now. You know,
Rizzo trusts her and he's doing all these things with her,
and she's gonna eat him alive. Like you know, I
(16:34):
just feel like at the end, she'll just eviscerate you.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, I'm so curious to watch Serri's journey because I
could not agree more with you. You know, I feel like
she is like truly a mastermind and is, for everyone,
will say, probably the most dangerous player out there. She
is sitting duck because of that, you know, and at
any point there but I kind of think this is
that part of the game where it gets scary as
they merge and everything gets re shuffle and somebody needs her,
(17:01):
and then she works her way in and there you go.
You're taking Suri into a final five, final six. You know,
it's it's amazing that she like lasted this long. I mean,
it blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And she won Traders on her own. I mean, I watch,
it's really hard. Do you think so far the show's
going in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I personally love it. I haven't seen the last you know,
handful of seasons, but to me, this is the first
season I've watched in a really long time saying, yeah,
it feels but just that feels like Survivor as I
loved it. You know, I was like this mega fan
of the show starting the first year it aired, and
we would in college make rice buls and light tiki
torches in our backyard. We watched every episode, and so
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this has that feeling to me. I don't know how
they did it, or how they brought it back, or
how they lost it in the first place, but I
know this one, to me feels special.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So there's nothing you would change so far.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, I think, you know, I've heard like the the
rumblings of not loving like the celebrity addition for sure.
You know, like my kids didn't know who Zach Brown
Band was and so they were kind of like, why
are we watching the sky? You know. I think that's
the only thing to me that sort of feels like
how when they brought in all the tricks, you know,
(18:19):
in the last ten years, I feel like they added
all these things that sort of felt like a distraction
from just watching the game. And I think the celebrity edition,
you know, could potentially feel that way. But I think
it's fun for me, as someone who played Survivor and
as a fan of Billie Eilish, I think it's so
cool that Billy Eilish was watching you know, every episode,
which is a lot. It's a lot, but I you know,
(18:42):
to me, it's always fun. I'm like, oh, how cool that,
Like Michelle Obama watched you know, my season of Survivor.
That excites me. I'm sure y'all can resonate with that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, she watches Housewives in New Jersey too. She loved it.
She was saying it the other day. We were like, okay,
I never sect that. Yeah, but so I have to say,
I did you know, did you do you still keep
in touch with the people that you used to cook
rice bowls with and like torches to watch Survivor in college?
Did they follow you through and were they excited when
(19:14):
you got on?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, some of them. I moved around so much growing
up that I didn't have like a real home base.
My parents moved sixteen times before I graduated college, So
I feel like I was just this great nomad until
you know, around my late twenties. So now you know,
I have roots down in San Antonio, But before that,
it was just I was bopping around. But yes, I
do have lifelong friends. And of course everybody was like,
(19:37):
what in the world, Kim Spradlin is going on Survivor?
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That's kind of exciting when exciting for them too, But
what was the hardest thing for you in this game?
I'm always curious of what was. So everybody's different. This
question is answered so differently.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I think it's the like for me, it was
maybe the guilt coming back like that was heavier than
I anticipated it, being you know, you try to live
your life and like, you know, honor people and have
these great relationships and navigate your life in a way
that feels really like healthy and beautiful, and then you
have to go in this very clear, you know, opposite
(20:16):
energy and lie and backstab and you know, kind of
do whatever you can do to make your way to
the end, which is the game. To me, I've always
been like, it's a giant game of sorry, and it
is a game. And that's why this whole honor thing
with Coach and Joe and all that kind of is
so interesting to me, because there's really no way. I mean,
I guess you're choosing what you're honoring, you know, and
stay true to that, and you tell yourself that you
(20:37):
played honorably. But I assure you that a lot of
the people that play the game with these people that
say they're being honorable would completely disagree, you know, that
they were honorable. So that whole part of navigating it,
it was just that was tough.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I've found that successiousally comes with a fair amount of delusion,
and I think that that's what some of these guys
are are. They're a little delusional about their their their
honor in these games. You know, you were part of
a strong female alliance in the first season do you
think that do you think alliances really work or like,
(21:15):
eventually you're going to get stabbed in the back so
it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Both. Yeah, yeah, And I think this is this is
an interesting point in the game to me where we
are right now in fifty, because this is where I
always look back and I'm like, Okay, who is who
is emerging kind of as the strong alliances from these
three new tribes from the tribal swap, And then you
have to go back and go, okay, and who were
they aligned with in their initial tribes and where do
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those two things come together, Like who really is in
the best position not only from the swap but from
the initial tribe As they go back together, and you
can start to see how this is going to sort of,
you know, break out, and so then they're going to
have the people from their initial alliance only a handful
of people will have to be in conflict and choose
between those two. Some people are going to be able
to honor both their alliance and their second alliance for
(22:01):
a while. And I think those people are in a
really good position, if that makes sense. You know, they're
kind of buried in the.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Middle Rizzo is going for the female alliance I.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
See, or I think is going for just about whatever.
I mean. I do think that's a new era trait
that seems to serve some people really well and others not.
I think Emily's in a good spot, you know. I
think she's kind of she's been funny and done some
funny things. I think either she's in great grave danger
in the next few episodes, or she's in a good spot.
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I feel like D's in a good spot. I really
like Camilla for it. I think she's very clever. I
think that was very smart for her to like kind
of shift allegiance there and vote out Charlie. It's just
gonna it's gonna be so interesting to see how this
plays out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh yeah, what I what it makes me because I
haven't eat and yet today and I'm about to pass
out and it's only like eleven o'clock or ten. But
how your challenge, beast? But did you train a lot
before you went? And are you just kind of showed up?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And I'm me, yeah, I trained a little. My I
was an athlete growing up, like very average, above average
high school athlete, Like I was nothing remarkable, but I've
always been like a tomboy, you know, Like I love
to throw a football, and so I went and got
a grappling hook and like trained in a few things
in my backyard. But I think you have to look
at like who I'm competing against. And I don't mean
(23:22):
that to demean you know, Chelsea or Alicia or Cat
or you know, Tarzan or whatever. But it's like going
into winters at war. Like that was physically very different
competing against that group of people than it was the
people that I was competing against for individual immunity in
one world.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know, but you're not eating, Like how do you
do it?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
But eating part is awful. I will not lie to
you about that. And both of my seasons, the first season,
I was on the island thirty nine days. The second
time I was on the island thirty six days. Because
we had the edge of extinction. I lost twenty two
pounds the first time, seventeen the next time. Like we
are not eating. It's miserable. The sleeping's miserable. What I
love about it is how miserable you are. It's just
(24:03):
a kind of low that we don't get in our
real lives. And so you just get so clear, You
get so clear on who you are, what you miss,
what you love, what you want to do. When you
go back, like it really just like cuts all the crap,
you know, and you just come back with like such
clear purpose. So I love that part. Sometimes I missed
that part, you know, I get that it's getting that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Did What did you miss the most? What did you
find out about yourself that you realize that you missed.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I think I realized, like I've always been a very
social person and had you know, been like a twenty
five friend person, and I spend a lot of time
with a lot of people, and I realized I really
only really missed, you know, three or four people, and
that I don't prioritize those relationships enough because I spread
myself so thin, you know, and so there were these
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this just felt so clear. I was like, yeah, there's
these people that I love, all these hundred people, but
there's really just these few people that I don't spend
enough time connecting with or prioritizing. And so I think,
especially on winters at where I came home and I
was like, I've been so worried about my career and
building a brand and HGTV, which I went on to,
do you know that I'm I'm kind of missing being
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a mom, you know, like they're not going to be
at my house very long. I now look, I'm like,
they're all going to be gone, and you know, seven
eight years, they'll all be in college, and you know,
I don't want to have missed that. Yeah, so that's
kind of a big one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Speaking of season fifty one, are you upset that you
didn't get the call? Or maybe you did you turned
it down? And then two, who's playing the best game?
Who are you really watching that you're excited to see?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Definitely not sad not to be there. Did not get
a I don't think anyone from forty is on fifty though.
I did notice that, so I didn't feel sad to not.
So yeah, it's better in my mind that they didn't
ask me. I like I like D. I didn't watch
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D season. I think D's in a good spot. I
love Christian, He's so fun. I don't think he's gonna
make the long haul, but I really like, have enjoyed
watching him very much. I really love Camilla. I did
watch Camilla season because my kids were watching it, and
I think she's super smart and super strategic, and I
think she's in a good spot. I think Emily could
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like go either way right now. But I don't see
I don't see like an Aussie coach Jonathan, you know,
cole h. I don't see Rizzo for it. I don't
know if he has the like, the the well the
depth of like experience to draw on to like get
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through what he's about to walk through.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I gotta be time.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, they've got to be really drained. I mean, I
think about how horrible I felt when I got back
for months. I mean, there's like a whole like refeeding
syndrome thing where your boss really a lot of gastro stuff.
People end up in the hospital as they like reacclimate,
and so I'm sure he just you know, he's so
lean anyway, Like, yeah, he's got to be super depleted.
(27:23):
So that's impressive that he did it played on to
the money. I liked that, you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Know what I love the most. That's impressive. Besides the
fact that you're a winner and a fan favorite and
all these things I'm excited about HGTV, I have to
ask you about it, tell me all about it. That's
like a winner.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
For me, I filmed my own HGTV show called Why
the Heck Did I buy this house? And then like
kind of had another wake up call about going back
to my family and being present. But last year they
asked Chelsea Meisner, who is one of my dearest friends
and also was on Survivor One World with me. She
was in the final three with me. She went on
to do Ravo Southern Charm. But we are one of
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the teams competing on HGTVS Rock the Block, which comes
out in a couple of weeks, and it's like their
number one renovation competition show, four teams, four identical houses,
who did it best? So we filmed that in Vegas
together in the fall, which was a blast. And I'm
really at my house.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Please come to my house. I want you here so badly.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm here for it, Dolores.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I have I own a home where my daughter lives
next now with her five dogs, and I redid the
house didn't come out so great, and I need to
make a dog proof house. Can we make a show
about that, Yes, we can still make it look good.
My note rape doghouse. Absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
A dog proof house.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
For me? No, no, my dogs live. It's a thirty
two hundred square foot doghouse. Yeah, and I know you
know what I'm talking about, so like.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
It's definitely possible, right, you just wanted to be bullet
if we don't have to worry about anything. But it
still looks really elegant.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We need the furniture for them to be able to
lay on that it doesn't get ruined. What kind of material?
All the woodwork's ruined because they jump on the windows.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Like you could film Big Brother for dogs. Let's do it.
The dogs could vote each other out.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
There you go, well as you could produce it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
All right, I'm done. Last question, Kim did what did
you enjoy doing more Survivor or HGTV shows so different.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
One has food and beds. Yeah, but it's a lot
longer I would say Survivor.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, one's got a million dollars at the end.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Survivor was, like I always say, it was like Narnia
for me, you know, like having watched it, been so
obsessed and then literally coming out through the forest, seeing
the challenges, hearing Jeff Prope's voice like I'll never forget it.
It was magical.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Thank you so much for coming on by order of
the Faithfuls. We're going to have back on next episode
to recap all of episode five real quick before we
let you go. Where can people find you? Where can
people follow you? And exactly when is the HGTV show
coming out?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Great question? It airs April thirteenth. I don't know what
time on HGTV. I'm on Instagram occasionally, and other than that,
you really can't find me. I'm just hiding out at
my house. It was really guys, Thank you for having me.
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Thank you, Thank you, Kim
Welcome in, all you Faithfuls, traders and survivors. You're in
for another episode of By Order of the Faithful, as
well as Adams alongside Dolores Catania. Dolores, you look all
dulled up? Are you filming today?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No, just for you, I figure, just because I like
when you tell me I look pretty.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is every day for you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh you're the Well, you're such a good guy. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
How you been.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I've been good? Yeah, since I've seen you. My daughter
got engaged, so.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It looked like she got engaged, like on the top
of a mountain.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
They were snowboarding, and I didn't realize there was a
time difference there in Aspen, so that's why we didn't
get the call when I expected it. She was really shocked.
She was surprised, and I'm happy for them. So that's
now three weddings in the family coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh man, well you like this guy?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I do. I like him. They're in law, young love.
They love each other. So you know, I had the
man talk with him.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, did he ask? Did he ask for your permission
to do this?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? He did?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, good, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, he did.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, tell your your daughter and you're soon to be
son in law. Congratulations and mousel, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And what have you been doing.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm in New York right now. My wife's finishing her
Broadway run, so I flew out here to help her
move back and I finally get my wife back and
she'll no longer be making out with Jonathan Graff eight
times a week.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But wow, it's like it's like you guys are seeing
each other for the first time again. You know, I'm
all about long distance sometimes and missing each other. That
is so important to miss each other and to be
as as confident, not confident, what it is to have
the trust in your relationship that you have. I really
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think you have an amazing relationship. I love the two
of you. I think she's adorable. I love when you
post pictures of her dancing with the dogs and he's
so cute. I can't You guys are are a great
couple and I love it. But speaking of being a
part for a long time, you know, my show's coming back.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
An asked you yesterday, are you excited about this?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, but there's new people coming on Wells and I
don't know who they are, so you you know, you
really it's better I believe the devil you know, than
the devil you don't, So after you know, I feel
bad that the whole cast didn't come back. That's rough,
you know, a little rough.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Why what's the politics behind that? Why don't all all
the casts come back? They not want to? Or are
they not fighted?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
There was a shake up. NBC felt that they needed
to move some things around, so that's what they did.
And yeah, so so it's bittersweet, but it's back to work.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Well, I'm very excited about that. Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Are you going to watch my show?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I absolutely am going to watch your show. This is
going to be the first, the first housewife show I
think I've ever watched.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I want you to start getting into housewives wells, because
being a gentleman like you are, I want to know
your opinion on things like I like your point of
view on things, and I like the way you articulate it,
and it's always just very proper and nice and just right.
So I would love to hear your opinion on housewife
shows well.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And someone who I've worked with in the past in
Ashley and I Keneddi and Jared Abblin going to be
on the show.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That's going to be Yeah, well no, that's on Rhode Island. Yeah,
New Jersey is getting back, but Rhode Island's coming out.
And you know you have to watch that.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yes, I will, I will watch. Maybe we should recap that, We.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Definitely absolutely should. And just to give you a little teaser,
she cries, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, I remember, I remember a lot. Well, I'm excited
about today's episodes. Today we've got Kim Spradland Wolf, who's
an American reality TV personality and interior designer, best known
for winning Survivor one World Back in twenty twelve, taking
home the million dollar grand prize and being voted the
sprint Player of the Season by the fans. After initial win,
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she returned to compete on Survivor Winners at War in
twenty twenty, where she placed nine. Following Survivor, Kim transition
into the interior design space with their business, Kim Wolf Home.
She also hosts a home renovation show on HGTV, including
Why the Heck Did I Buy This House with her
husband Brian Wolf. Please welcome to by order of the
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Faithful Survivor Edition, Kim spradland Wolf. Hi, guys, welcome to
the show. Kim Thanks so much for taking some time
and chatting with us. Are you watching season fifty? Are
you are you in French like we are?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh? Yes, I were very much watching season fifty. I
actually have not watched since forty when I went on
Winners at War, I like just took a hiatus from watching,
and so this is my first season back watching and
I am absolutely loving it. It's also the first time
I've ever watched with my kids, who are nine, ten
and eleven, and that has completely changed and made it
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so much more fun to watch. And they have lots
of thoughts and opinions and so it's been great.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh that is so cute. Did you teach them a
lot about it?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, they had never really watched. They came on sea
on the family visit and they were like three, four
and five, and so this summer they started watching for
the first time. They watched my first season, which was
twenty four, which was you know, The Ice Ages of Survivor,
and particularly the oldest is like very into it and
wants to talk about it and tell me all of
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his thoughts. So it's fun. We're having fun.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
They have an understanding that you are like one of
the greats and Survivor lore.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
They do not think so. They I've told them, but
they are like, we don't see how we don't think
they are good. Or also they watched my first season
and they're like, you look like AI. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Wait, well, some day you're gonna have kids that don't
think they're that you and your wife are cool. Don't worry. Yeah, exactly,
You'll know how we feel, you.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Know, being one of the greats. When you watch it back,
what do you think it was about your game that
really stuck out to people and and had you kind
of win that first season and then get ninth and
the second time you went on.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Gosh, I think the farther I get from it, the
more it just seems like such a crazy, you know,
fluke thing that it just went so well for me.
That's really the thing that I remember most is just
how everything fell into place. It felt so easy. There
was truly not like one vote that I did not
know where it was going, and so it was just
this like easy z path to the end. It was
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weird almost kind of like eerily perfect. And then the
second time was the complete opposite of that. So I've
now been on that side of the of the table
where it's like I didn't know most of the things
and everything surprised me, and I was always on the
outs and I was so frustrated the whole time. So
I feel like I've kind of waked these like polar
extreme journeys on my two seasons.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You know, So now that you know both sides, is
there a way that you can cement yourself in this game?
Because there an actual I call my game of Fluke
on Traders, So I don't know, I wouldn't. I think
it changes all the time. But is there a way
to do that?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think it's you know, I think certain people maybe have,
you know, if you think of like an arsenal of
tools that you get to put in your tool belt
when you go play. I think some people have, you know,
a wider variety of tools at their disposal to play
with and have better chance of cementing themselves into something
that has some longevity. But I do think so much
of it is is luck, you know, I mean, so
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much of it is where you land. And I think
it's really difficult. I think the game has changed so much.
I mean Winners at War was a great example of this.
There's so much change in movement from day to day
that you know, it just it really amplifies kind of
the chaos of it because it's constantly moving. I think
it's a really hard thing to stay on top of.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
We're finding out that, you know, Rizzo really wants to
be one of the greats. He keeps talking about it
a little braggadociously almost any do you have any advice
for Rizzo going forward? Does he need to pump the
brakes on some of this dialogue he's having about being
one of the greats.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah. I did think it was so fascinating watching some
of the other players talked to him last night at
tribal about like he hadn't seen himself yet. And I
do think that was such I mean, y'all know, you
go on reality TV and then you watch yourself back
and there are certain things that are great and there's
certain things that are just wildly humble about it, and
he has not had that that moment yet. I think
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that is a a trying process to watch yourself on
national television and get all the feedback positive and not positive.
Rizzo's just feels so young to me when I watch him.
I mean, he just he is and you can sense that.
But I love his confidence and like you know, effort vescence,
and that he is, you know, kind of unshakable in
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that way. I'll be so curious to see if Survivor
continues on and he continues to play, like how he
you know, ages and kind of matures as a player.
But he's funny. My kids love him.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I can see that. He's like a puppy. I
feel like he's the he's the puppy.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Of the group.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But what what do you think separates a good Survivor
player from a great Survivor player?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That's a great question. So they're just you know, I
feel like when you look across the board at the greats,
they're all so different.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You're one of the greats.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So in case you don't realize, that's the the dust
off the bottle. Yeah, I feel so funny doing this.
I haven't done it in forever. I think the great
I think it's a lot in how you treat people,
because I really think when it comes down to the end,
like all these you know, all the chaos happens, all
the swaps, all the shifts, and I one of my
(10:18):
core beliefs and I don't. I don't know if I
got to think about it, if I still really believe this,
but I think I do. Is that you know, at
the end of the day, you get to the end
and people really vote for, yes, the person that they
think played a great game, but they vote for the
person that they want to give the money to. And
I think you have to to kind of show up
as someone that people want to hand a million dollars too.
I don't think people want to give a million dollars
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to an asshole, you.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, truth, and I think that's underestimated.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, and you can be a villain, you can you know,
you know, be cutthroat and be strategic and still be likable.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, I don't think people get that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, Yeah, I think some people miss on just the
connection part, you know. I think there's even some players
this season that like, you know, and again, this could
all come down to the edit. I didn't watch Genevieve's
original season, but you know, there's a little bit of
this thing that she's doing to Aubrey which doesn't feel
likable to me, and it's subtle, and I think Genevieve's
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getting a great edit. I think she seems likable, but
there's a way it kind of feels a little bit
like the Plastics for mean Girls, where it's like Aubrey's
clearly on the outs and there's sort of a condescension
to her, And I think that's where it gets interesting
and emerge, you know, where potentially Aubrey gets with Ozzy
and Ozzy's got his foot in the door with you know,
a group, and now Aubrey goes over and Genevieve's on
(11:33):
the outs. So it just it's so fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Speaking of edit, that's I've been wanting to talk to
past Survivor winners about the edit. You know, I come
from this bachelor, a Bachelor in Paradise world where a
lot of people talk about, well I got a bad edit,
they villainize me. That's not really how it went. And
going back to Rizzio, Rizzo hasn't seen you know, himself
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represented on TV. Yet. Is i'd a thing that you
guys talk about that like so and so got a
bad at it or was made to look in a
different light than they really were.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, I would be curious to hear what y'all's experience
has been being you know, from like different show world.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, I could tell you mine.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I think for me personally, every season that I have
played and watched back and some of the ones where
I just know the people personally, there's obvious this like
amplification of a character, but they always feel somewhat in
line with like how I know this person to be.
I've never seen them take someone and completely turn them
into someone else. It feels like it's you know, you
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boil it down, it's like a reduction, right and so,
but I always feel like the person I'm like, you
did say that, you did show up in that energy
or in that spirit, and you know you just got
a lot of it all at once in thirty minutes.
But you know, I've never seen them just like completely
you know, make someone look some way with.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Words in their mouth that they didn't say. Yeah, I
feel like coming from reality where I come from, anyone
who feels stupid about the way they acted kind of
to echo what you're saying or to say, oh, that's
not what it because your brain play stretch on you. Right,
You're like, I don't remember it to be that way,
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but it's clearly the cameras don't lie. So a lot
of people want to blame it on the edit when
they don't like the way they looked or the way
that they came off, and it is amplified, yes, because
it is in production and they want to make it
look like a great scene and it's boiled down to
this thirty minutes or whatever. But yeah, I don't really
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blame bad edits. I don't believe in bad edits. I
believe like you actually did that and gave it to
them to put up there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I definitely think people try to show up the way
they think production wants them to be, and they you know,
are trying to like rise to, you know, some character
that they feel like they've been cast to portray, and
sometimes that goes really well, and sometimes that doesn't go
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You have to accept if you're a villain, you have
to accept that you're a villain.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Be good, be a fun one, be a fun one exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I've always found that, like to your point of like
you think you're being cast as a certain character, if
you don't really know who you are going into any show,
then you're going to act like something that you think
you're supposed to be, which doesn't come across as authentic,
which generally comes across as off putting to the audience
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because they can sense something's not right about you, and
that's an easy way to make someone look villainous. But
from my standpoint, it's much easier to make someone look
It's much easier to make an asshole look good than
it is to make a good guy look like an asshole.
And so usually what I find is that more often
than not, when I'm watching a pack, I'm thinking, Wow,
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that person got it such a good edit in comparison
to what I remember experiencing during a show and how
everyone felt about them. But you know, actually that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I can agree with, yeah, yeah, that I feel like
I liked less in person than I liked on the show.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You come you come from, you know,
back in the day. You're kind of an OG player.
Do you think the new era players have it just
as hard as you had on your seasons?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know, I wonder that, you know, I do feel
like sometimes these old era players have more of a
target on their back, But then you watch it and
you're like, they shouldn't because in a lot of ways
they're behind strategically because they had this very different experience
of you know, real bonds and real relationships with it,
which I think, you know, don't really seem to stand
the test of time in modern survivor. So I think
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that these new era players, you know, in some ways
are going to have just as big of a target
on their backs as you know, Colby or Ozzie or Coach,
who I don't think are just these wild strategic threats,
you know, they're kind of more of these like you know,
good old boys.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
See. I think Siri is a threat, terrifying. She's terrifying
to me. I would have wanted her off the eye
and I love Surri out of respect, I want her off.
I'm I'm nervous for everyone around her. Now. You know,
Rizzo trusts her and he's doing all these things with her,
and she's gonna eat him alive. Like you know, I
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just feel like at the end, she'll just eviscerate you.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, I'm so curious to watch Serri's journey because I
could not agree more with you. You know, I feel like
she is like truly a mastermind and is, for everyone,
will say, probably the most dangerous player out there. She
is sitting duck because of that, you know, and at
any point there but I kind of think this is
that part of the game where it gets scary as
they merge and everything gets re shuffle and somebody needs her,
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and then she works her way in and there you go.
You're taking Suri into a final five, final six. You know,
it's it's amazing that she like lasted this long. I mean,
it blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And she won Traders on her own. I mean, I watch,
it's really hard. Do you think so far the show's
going in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I personally love it. I haven't seen the last you know,
handful of seasons, but to me, this is the first
season I've watched in a really long time saying, yeah,
it feels but just that feels like Survivor as I
loved it. You know, I was like this mega fan
of the show starting the first year it aired, and
we would in college make rice buls and light tiki
torches in our backyard. We watched every episode, and so
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this has that feeling to me. I don't know how
they did it, or how they brought it back, or
how they lost it in the first place, but I
know this one, to me feels special.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So there's nothing you would change so far.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, I think, you know, I've heard like the the
rumblings of not loving like the celebrity addition for sure.
You know, like my kids didn't know who Zach Brown
Band was and so they were kind of like, why
are we watching the sky? You know. I think that's
the only thing to me that sort of feels like
how when they brought in all the tricks, you know,
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in the last ten years, I feel like they added
all these things that sort of felt like a distraction
from just watching the game. And I think the celebrity edition,
you know, could potentially feel that way. But I think
it's fun for me, as someone who played Survivor and
as a fan of Billie Eilish, I think it's so
cool that Billy Eilish was watching you know, every episode,
which is a lot. It's a lot, but I you know,
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to me, it's always fun. I'm like, oh, how cool that,
Like Michelle Obama watched you know, my season of Survivor.
That excites me. I'm sure y'all can resonate with that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, she watches Housewives in New Jersey too. She loved it.
She was saying it the other day. We were like, okay,
I never sect that. Yeah, but so I have to say,
I did you know, did you do you still keep
in touch with the people that you used to cook
rice bowls with and like torches to watch Survivor in college?
Did they follow you through and were they excited when
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you got on?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, some of them. I moved around so much growing
up that I didn't have like a real home base.
My parents moved sixteen times before I graduated college, So
I feel like I was just this great nomad until
you know, around my late twenties. So now you know,
I have roots down in San Antonio, But before that,
it was just I was bopping around. But yes, I
do have lifelong friends. And of course everybody was like,
(19:37):
what in the world, Kim Spradlin is going on Survivor?
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That's kind of exciting when exciting for them too, But
what was the hardest thing for you in this game?
I'm always curious of what was. So everybody's different. This
question is answered so differently.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I think it's the like for me, it was
maybe the guilt coming back like that was heavier than
I anticipated it, being you know, you try to live
your life and like, you know, honor people and have
these great relationships and navigate your life in a way
that feels really like healthy and beautiful, and then you
have to go in this very clear, you know, opposite
(20:16):
energy and lie and backstab and you know, kind of
do whatever you can do to make your way to
the end, which is the game. To me, I've always
been like, it's a giant game of sorry, and it
is a game. And that's why this whole honor thing
with Coach and Joe and all that kind of is
so interesting to me, because there's really no way. I mean,
I guess you're choosing what you're honoring, you know, and
stay true to that, and you tell yourself that you
(20:37):
played honorably. But I assure you that a lot of
the people that play the game with these people that
say they're being honorable would completely disagree, you know, that
they were honorable. So that whole part of navigating it,
it was just that was tough.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I've found that successiousally comes with a fair amount of delusion,
and I think that that's what some of these guys
are are. They're a little delusional about their their their
honor in these games. You know, you were part of
a strong female alliance in the first season do you
think that do you think alliances really work or like,
(21:15):
eventually you're going to get stabbed in the back so
it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Both. Yeah, yeah, And I think this is this is
an interesting point in the game to me where we
are right now in fifty, because this is where I
always look back and I'm like, Okay, who is who
is emerging kind of as the strong alliances from these
three new tribes from the tribal swap, And then you
have to go back and go, okay, and who were
they aligned with in their initial tribes and where do
(21:40):
those two things come together, Like who really is in
the best position not only from the swap but from
the initial tribe As they go back together, and you
can start to see how this is going to sort of,
you know, break out, and so then they're going to
have the people from their initial alliance only a handful
of people will have to be in conflict and choose
between those two. Some people are going to be able
to honor both their alliance and their second alliance for
(22:01):
a while. And I think those people are in a
really good position, if that makes sense. You know, they're
kind of buried in the.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Middle Rizzo is going for the female alliance I.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
See, or I think is going for just about whatever.
I mean. I do think that's a new era trait
that seems to serve some people really well and others not.
I think Emily's in a good spot, you know. I
think she's kind of she's been funny and done some
funny things. I think either she's in great grave danger
in the next few episodes, or she's in a good spot.
(22:31):
I feel like D's in a good spot. I really
like Camilla for it. I think she's very clever. I
think that was very smart for her to like kind
of shift allegiance there and vote out Charlie. It's just
gonna it's gonna be so interesting to see how this
plays out.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh yeah, what I what it makes me because I
haven't eat and yet today and I'm about to pass
out and it's only like eleven o'clock or ten. But
how your challenge, beast? But did you train a lot
before you went? And are you just kind of showed up?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And I'm me, yeah, I trained a little. My I
was an athlete growing up, like very average, above average
high school athlete, Like I was nothing remarkable, but I've
always been like a tomboy, you know, Like I love
to throw a football, and so I went and got
a grappling hook and like trained in a few things
in my backyard. But I think you have to look
at like who I'm competing against. And I don't mean
(23:22):
that to demean you know, Chelsea or Alicia or Cat
or you know, Tarzan or whatever. But it's like going
into winters at war. Like that was physically very different
competing against that group of people than it was the
people that I was competing against for individual immunity in
one world.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know, but you're not eating, Like how do you
do it?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
But eating part is awful. I will not lie to
you about that. And both of my seasons, the first season,
I was on the island thirty nine days. The second
time I was on the island thirty six days. Because
we had the edge of extinction. I lost twenty two
pounds the first time, seventeen the next time. Like we
are not eating. It's miserable. The sleeping's miserable. What I
love about it is how miserable you are. It's just
(24:03):
a kind of low that we don't get in our
real lives. And so you just get so clear, You
get so clear on who you are, what you miss,
what you love, what you want to do. When you
go back, like it really just like cuts all the crap,
you know, and you just come back with like such
clear purpose. So I love that part. Sometimes I missed
that part, you know, I get that it's getting that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Did What did you miss the most? What did you
find out about yourself that you realize that you missed.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I think I realized, like I've always been a very
social person and had you know, been like a twenty
five friend person, and I spend a lot of time
with a lot of people, and I realized I really
only really missed, you know, three or four people, and
that I don't prioritize those relationships enough because I spread
myself so thin, you know, and so there were these
(24:52):
this just felt so clear. I was like, yeah, there's
these people that I love, all these hundred people, but
there's really just these few people that I don't spend
enough time connecting with or prioritizing. And so I think,
especially on winters at where I came home and I
was like, I've been so worried about my career and
building a brand and HGTV, which I went on to,
do you know that I'm I'm kind of missing being
(25:13):
a mom, you know, like they're not going to be
at my house very long. I now look, I'm like,
they're all going to be gone, and you know, seven
eight years, they'll all be in college, and you know,
I don't want to have missed that. Yeah, so that's
kind of a big one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Speaking of season fifty one, are you upset that you
didn't get the call? Or maybe you did you turned
it down? And then two, who's playing the best game?
Who are you really watching that you're excited to see?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Definitely not sad not to be there. Did not get
a I don't think anyone from forty is on fifty though.
I did notice that, so I didn't feel sad to not.
So yeah, it's better in my mind that they didn't
ask me. I like I like D. I didn't watch
(26:11):
D season. I think D's in a good spot. I
love Christian, He's so fun. I don't think he's gonna
make the long haul, but I really like, have enjoyed
watching him very much. I really love Camilla. I did
watch Camilla season because my kids were watching it, and
I think she's super smart and super strategic, and I
think she's in a good spot. I think Emily could
(26:33):
like go either way right now. But I don't see
I don't see like an Aussie coach Jonathan, you know,
cole h. I don't see Rizzo for it. I don't
know if he has the like, the the well the
depth of like experience to draw on to like get
(26:56):
through what he's about to walk through.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I gotta be time.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, they've got to be really drained. I mean, I
think about how horrible I felt when I got back
for months. I mean, there's like a whole like refeeding
syndrome thing where your boss really a lot of gastro stuff.
People end up in the hospital as they like reacclimate,
and so I'm sure he just you know, he's so
lean anyway, Like, yeah, he's got to be super depleted.
(27:23):
So that's impressive that he did it played on to
the money. I liked that, you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Know what I love the most. That's impressive. Besides the
fact that you're a winner and a fan favorite and
all these things I'm excited about HGTV, I have to
ask you about it, tell me all about it. That's
like a winner.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
For me, I filmed my own HGTV show called Why
the Heck Did I buy this house? And then like
kind of had another wake up call about going back
to my family and being present. But last year they
asked Chelsea Meisner, who is one of my dearest friends
and also was on Survivor One World with me. She
was in the final three with me. She went on
to do Ravo Southern Charm. But we are one of
(28:01):
the teams competing on HGTVS Rock the Block, which comes
out in a couple of weeks, and it's like their
number one renovation competition show, four teams, four identical houses,
who did it best? So we filmed that in Vegas
together in the fall, which was a blast. And I'm
really at my house.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Please come to my house. I want you here so badly.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm here for it, Dolores.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I have I own a home where my daughter lives
next now with her five dogs, and I redid the
house didn't come out so great, and I need to
make a dog proof house. Can we make a show
about that, Yes, we can still make it look good.
My note rape doghouse. Absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
A dog proof house.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
For me? No, no, my dogs live. It's a thirty
two hundred square foot doghouse. Yeah, and I know you
know what I'm talking about, so like.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
It's definitely possible, right, you just wanted to be bullet
if we don't have to worry about anything. But it
still looks really elegant.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We need the furniture for them to be able to
lay on that it doesn't get ruined. What kind of material?
All the woodwork's ruined because they jump on the windows.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Like you could film Big Brother for dogs. Let's do it.
The dogs could vote each other out.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
There you go, well as you could produce it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
All right, I'm done. Last question, Kim did what did
you enjoy doing more Survivor or HGTV shows so different.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
One has food and beds. Yeah, but it's a lot
longer I would say Survivor.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, one's got a million dollars at the end.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Survivor was, like I always say, it was like Narnia
for me, you know, like having watched it, been so
obsessed and then literally coming out through the forest, seeing
the challenges, hearing Jeff Prope's voice like I'll never forget it.
It was magical.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Thank you so much for coming on by order of
the Faithfuls. We're going to have back on next episode
to recap all of episode five real quick before we
let you go. Where can people find you? Where can
people follow you? And exactly when is the HGTV show
coming out?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Great question? It airs April thirteenth. I don't know what
time on HGTV. I'm on Instagram occasionally, and other than that,
you really can't find me. I'm just hiding out at
my house. It was really guys, Thank you for having me.
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Thank you, Thank you, Kim
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