By Order of the Faithfuls: The Housewife Historian w/ Michael Rapaport

From his off-camera chats with Colton to his nightmare castle experience with a housewife, Michael Rapaport is here to break down the good, the bad and the ugly of his Traitors experience. 

He tells Tamra, Dolores and Wells all about his eating style that he dubs “the shoveling technique” and admits whether or not he actually drinks a glass with two hands.

Plus, he openly stated that he wanted to ditch the Traitors season 4 reunion… Were Tamra and Dolores able to change his mind?! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome in every one another episode of By Order of
the Faithfuls. I'm well as Adams alongside Lauris Catania and Tamera.
How are we doing?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Were my stomach hurts?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was just gonna say, how's your stomach?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Stomach hurts?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I feel so bad.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I have ibs. So I have like it's good days
of bad days. O.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
My wife has that.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's horrible. It's horrible.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
So yeah, I gotta go next Thursday and have a
scope done.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I had a call.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I have colon oscoos all the time, but I have
to have the scope down the throat.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, I'm so do it at the same time.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I don't know what I know right, just not just
not with the same scope, please, I.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Know they don't use the same scope I was.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
I was a yeahscopy tech at one time.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Of course you've done everything, yeah, everything.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know I got. I got a colonoscopy once and
I I was I couldn't go under because I had
to record a radio show later that day, so I
stayed it and I said, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Know anyone that.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's not a colonoscopy.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was, And what they do?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
They so they had this TV where I could sit
there and watch, Oh my God, and they fill you
up with air to like open you up, I guess,
and and I remember the nurse pressing down on my
stomach and letting out the longest fart.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And I said, you had to be awake for that.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, I said, you know, I always thought that one
day maybe I would get to be in a threesome.
I just never thought it would be like this.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well it's never.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
So my opening line was when I had my colonoscopy,
They're like the doctor, I'm on the table, I'm laying
on my side, and he's like you allergic to anything?
He goes and I got only assholes.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, speaking of assholes.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Get an asshole.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Michael and assholl think you would love that, by the way,
that was a great introduction.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, well, hope he.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Would love it.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Michael Rappaport first started his career as a stand up
comedian following his high school graduation, which came apparently after
a series of expulsions shockingly enough, But then time Michael
moved from the live comedy stage two working in front
of the camera. He's best known for his roles in
a typical true romance Deep Blue Sea the Sixth Day,
and of course being Phoebe's boyfriend on Friends. And this

(02:41):
year he made a very very big splash on Traders
season four after a heated exchange with Colton at the roundtable.
He was eliminated that night and self proclaimed the best looking, smartest,
and dopest faithful Please welcome to the podcast, Michael Rapaport.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Mike, Michael, Hey, did you hear that introduction?

Speaker 6 (03:04):
No? Was it fawning? Did you fawn?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
It was so good?

Speaker 5 (03:08):
But I have to tell you the one thing that
we left out was the housewife Historian that you are
the biggest best fan of all. You're not a fan,
You're actual almost a housewife.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Now, yeah, I'm almost a housewife like you are. I
have an inner housewife. I'm also a fan of Wells
and uh, you know, Dolores, let's just cut the bullshit.
Dolores and I have become actual friends. Dolores is well.
I mean why I'm sorry to call you Dolores Champ.
I just I just tell.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
You as as as Champ and but the Wells.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
I want to ask you something. I know you guys
are going to be asking me questions. I saw you
made a comment thing that you work we work.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Together, me and you work together. What do we work on?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So it was years ago. I was hosting a like
a sports trivia app where I remember and you came
in to do one of the episodes, and so I
remember you came in to watch me do it, and
then you went and did it much I remember I did,
and I was I was like, I can't believe it.
Michael Rappaport hanging it out with me today. So that

(04:16):
was that was the day.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
I remember.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
I would love to get Michael's thoughts on Wells just
told the story when before your intro that he had
a colonoscopy and he was awake for it, and I thought, uh,
you asked for that, Betty.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
I bet you that's crazy. But why did you choose
to do that?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Because I had at the time, I was doing three
different radio shows, and so I had a window that
I could go do this and I had to be
like lucid afterwards to do my my afternoon drive show,
and they wouldn't let me leave if I went under,
like they were like, you need to have someone drive
you over and you can't do anything for a couple hours.
And I was like, I can't do that. I have

(04:59):
a job, so so I stayed awake for it and
I told them, you know, there's a nurse in there.
There's a doctor shoving something up my ass. And I
was sitting there watching this, uh this TV screen and
I said to the doctor, I said, this is the
worst fucking TV show I've ever watched. Doc And then
I turned to the nurse and I said, you know,
I always thought i'd be in a threesome one day.

(05:19):
I just didn't expect it to go like this or
fart during it.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
That's that's you know.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
I I actually not to go down a health and
a wellness but I have also colitis. So I have
gotten colonoscopes every year since I'm sixteen years old.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
So I know what that is. You got, you got,
you got also collection, So.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I've been tested for everything. I just have an overactive asshole.
I think, I don't know, I mean shit, just it's I.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Mean, that's where anybody thought this podcast was?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
No no, So I get calling asks all the time
and I'm going in next week. This is how it started.
To have an endoscopy. I think it's call where you
go down the throat.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I just have ibs.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
They thought I had colitis, they thought I had Crohn's disease.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Like I've been on medication, nothing.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Works, all right, all right, all right, Well, if you're
hearing this, this is a sign to go for your
colonoscopy because I do work with a gastro group. And
now colon cancer is the most preventable and detectable early
if you get it early, and and colon cancer is
hitting people much much younger. So if you have any

(06:29):
kind of signs or any kind of uncomfortable whatever, please go.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
And now let's pivot out of it. Yes, we into
the ass, So let's come out of the ass.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Let's let's call.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, let's talk about Trader season four. You know, you
were my favorite thing to watch in these first couple episodes,
and I'm very, very sad that you're off our TV screens.
Did you enjoy your time or are you regret reading
and going on the show.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
No, I enjoyed the show itself. I enjoyed the process.
In hindsight, the thing that I really enjoyed the most,
which kind of I don't want to say got me
in trouble, but sort of, you know, was I'll say
got me in trouble.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
But or the thing that, you know, the thing that
I enjoyed.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
The most about it is for me, And and I'm
being totally honest, like, obviously i knew exactly what I
was doing. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a
fan of reality TV. I'm a fan of yours, the bartender.
I've watched you through the years. You look good, wells,
you look good, you look nice and young and looked like,
you know, you got to keep you off, keep you

(07:42):
off the island.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
You look like you know, I know you're married, you
look you look good.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, I'm the second best looking, the second smartest, and
the second dope.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
You got that fucking right. But but but you know,
the thing for me that was the most fun was
the sort of tightrope type rote element because I didn't
go in there to you know, I didn't go in
there to necessarily win the game, you know. And and
one time during the interviews, they said, you know, the prizes,

(08:17):
And obviously I knew about the prizes beforehand, but but
you know, at one point three or four days in
the shooting that you know, they asked him about the prizes,
and I was like, I'm here for the honey, I'm
not here for the money, like I was there to
put on.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
A good show.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
I when I got back, I told my wife, I said,
for me, a lot of times, I felt like I was,
you know, in a meta universe, like I was watching
myself imagining how it would be to watch myself in
a reality TV show because I'm such a fan of it.
So it was almost like my instinct is performance, you know,
My instinct isn't you know, hold it to the you know,

(08:53):
close to the vest. Dolores has been around me, you know,
We've spent a good amount of time together.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
I'm out on full blast all the time.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
What people see on social media to me is performance art,
whether you like it, whether you don't like whether I'm
ranting about the housewives, whether I'm talking politics sports, if
you put a camera in front of me, like I'm
gonna do some sort of performance, you know, Like I said,
you know, to each is on what you like. But
that first night in the castle, after being there two

(09:22):
days not having the phone, which was a.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Very challenging thing for me, that was very very hard.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
You know, we started and you know, I was walking
around the castle and people were like, so when did
you lose your virginity?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
So where are you from?

Speaker 7 (09:35):
I'm like, the fuck this shit, man, Like I'm not
wasting my time. I'm not wasting two hours of shooting, like,
let's go. And that's when I just I just started
because I was like, let's let's let's let's start the show.
It's a TV show, you know, with wardrobe, a sound department,
and many, many, many many cameras.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
So I was like, let's go.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
And that kind of that put people on their heels,
you know, some you know, some were getting it, some
weren't getting it. But to go back to the beginning
of your question, Yes, I enjoyed the process of making
the reality TV show Traders. You know, the the being

(10:16):
sequestered was challenging.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
The no phone was challenging.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
The not being able to speak to my wife and
my friends and my family when I want to that
was very, very hard.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
But in general, I did have a good time doing it.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
And it was a trip for me because, like I said,
you know, I've watched so many different shows throughout the
years to see kind of how it's done.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Was was was was cool. So yes, but the answer
is yes, I did enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Michael, I totally relate to what you just said about
when the cameras are up, it's go time.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And I'm like that on Housewives, like I don't want
to hear about your sister's brother's cousin. That's not going
to make it on TV.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Let's just fucking go, and a lot of times like
I'm the asshole because I want shit going.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Let's go.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean, I get it, and especially as you
become a veteran of it. You know, I'm sure you
know when you first started you probably weren't like that
as wells you've done so many different shows for so
many years, and you know, Dolores, you.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Have such a you have your your your TV character.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Down because you never really get out of yourself. But
you'll turn up when you need to turn up, but
you don't go totally fucking nuts. And there's been times
where I was like, oh shit, Dolores is gonna head
butt somebody, But you sort of keep it in the pocket.
And I think that's why I gave you the nickname
the Goddess of New Jersey, especially because you've been so good,

(11:37):
so likable, so genuine and so relatable, but also so
you know you keep your cool.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I don't know how I do that, to be honest,
but I can tell you that we all know what
we signed up for, and that is there's a degree
we have to perform, but in the real way and
the reality of it, we have to react.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
To maybe some then we wouldn't have in real life,
right like off the show. But there's a fine line.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
And I know that line because from my past I've
had to eat shit in my other jobs. So there's
times where I say I got to pull back, which
is not everybody's always had to do, Michael, which I
knew was going to be a hard thing for you
before you went yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
I mean, that's just not how I am, you know,
like do I You know, there's certain things that obviously
the Culton situation which we could get to when we
got to that.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
That's the only thing.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
That I wish that I could have changed, because I
you know, as much as I like to talk shit
and I am a shit talker, as much as I
like to break balls on TV on social media, but
most importantly in real life, I never ever ever want
to offend people and I never ever ever have a
problem apologizing when I do. I am used to apologizing

(12:54):
because I talk shit. It's the nature of the game.
Sometimes when you talk shit, you step on people's toes.
Sometimes if you're talk you might accidentally get some spit
on somebody, and I'm gonna go, yo, sorry about that.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
So that's the one.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Thing that I wish I that didn't happen, because I
know that it hurt his feelings. I know that it brought,
you know, negativity towards the show.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
It brought negativity towards me, and you.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
Know, and it's the last thing that I wanted to
do for myself, for him because you know the reality
of it is, out of all the people that I
had actual I would say, you know, sort of deep
conversations when the camera wasn't there, Colton was the one
that me and I me and him had a lot of,
you know, nice talks about family relationships and just some

(13:38):
things we you know, we had in common. So it
sucked that it went down like that. It sucked the
ramifications of that. I don't like I said, I didn't.
I didn't want to bring any negativity to him. He's
a father and I am not you know, one to
judge like you know, past shit talking I got no
problem with him. There's no beef, there's no you know,

(14:01):
I've spoken to him since you know, the show ended.
I reached out to him because, uh, you know the
way it went down, Oh I.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Didn't know that. How did he receive you when you called.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Him totally totally cool, totally sick. I like to hear
that he understood.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
He you know, I'm not going to go into the
details of it, because it was just two. It was
a grown man conversation and it wasn't tenuous. It wasn't
there wasn't any friction.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
You know. He told me where he was at. I
told him where I was at.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
He accepted my apology, you know, very very quickly, and
we talked, you know about you know, other things, and
you know, he you know kind of uh you know,
foreshadowed some of the things that that he thought I
would get a kick out of that.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Went down in the house.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
And it was very warm, very genuine, and and and
that's at and you know that, you know, and then
and it's like, uh, like I said, I I didn't
I didn't intend for it to go to go left
like that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I was just saying, hindsight's twenty twenty. You know, in
the moment, you very much were believing that Colton was
a trader. And I watched that wondering, is that just
because you're being painted in a corner and you're being
attacked by someone so you want to attack back, or
did you really think he was a trader?

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I did.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
I thought he was a trader, And you know, I
can't say everything I remember, but I did think he
was a trader because I the night before when he
was sort of the ring leader and everybody makes their
own decisions, but he came across like the ring leader
of voting out Tiffany, and then he.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
Came at me the next night, and that was the
first time. It's my mistake.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
I put my guard down because I was like, I've
been sort of fending off everybody since I got here.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
I'm chill, I'm eating, you know, and then they sort
of came at me.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
I'll tell you something that I realized. This is something
that I realized when I was watching it back when
I came down the hallway and I burst into the kitchen,
I heard somebody say it was Michael, and up until
the other night when I saw it on.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
TV, I thought that was Colton and it was Rob
Love Island.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
He said it was Michael, and no one corrected me
because I went and Colton, I said, you're a fucking trader.
And Colton didn't go that was him or robbed it.
No one said anything. I was kind of on the
turin that I was on the Colton train. But when
I walked down the hallway and heard a voice because
of the proximity of the room and I saw Colton
down the hallway, I thought it was Colton saying it

(16:30):
was it's Michael and it was Rob. If I had
known in the moment that it was Rob, the whole
thing would have been different, and I would really, oh
for sure, for sure, because because him saying that, I
was like, fuck, are you talking about like it's me?

Speaker 6 (16:44):
It's you? You? You also are the one who voted
out this girl last night.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Well maybe they didn't know that that's why you were
doing it.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Maybe they didn't know that that you heard that, because
I would have said, Mike, he didn't say it.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
You know, you don't really I.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Think they were freaked out by I'm not blaming him,
they were.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Freaked out because you know, I think they thought like it.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Was gonna be like I went up like I was like,
you're a fucking trader, like you know, and I had
my hand in his six. But I wish I had
known it was Rob. I will say, Rob the trader,
Rob Love Island. I did Night one five minutes after
the roundtable. I am on camera two times saying this
was good.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
You were at it. He had everybody under their spell.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Do you think you would have stayed longer if it
wasn't for the Culton comment?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Or do you think you were going to be gone
that day?

Speaker 6 (17:44):
I wasn't going to be gone that night. I would
have stated.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Who do you think was going to be gone?

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Ron was done?

Speaker 7 (17:51):
And and you know Ron was done, and he would
have been gone and I would have been fine. And
you know, if if the cult and conversation, if it
was me just explained to him the fact that Johnny
weird weird and the rest of them jumped in, it
was like I couldn't talk cold off. But if I
had been able to say no, noa da da da da.

(18:12):
And there's things I wish I had done differently in
terms of even with saying it, I wish that I
had because I said, you know and you're good at
Holy Secrets, and he said, there it is. You're talking
about my sexuality, which I didn't say, but in hindsight,
I would have said cut. I would have stood the
fuck up and I would have walked out and said, Nope,
that's not going in the show.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
I didn't say that, we're not putting this in the
fucking show. I'm walking.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm surprised they put it in.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
And I did tell you because they don't, right, they don't.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
But they do go for you know what, Dolores. Now
I see that they do go for it. And it's fine.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
It happened, it was real, and you know, there was
a couple of comments from from the peanut gallery. Uh
uh you know that they cut out, you know, uh,
And and that's fine. It was what it was. That
was the real conversation. I said what I said. My
intention wasn't to hurt his feelings. It wasn't to be disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
So you weren't trying to be malicious in any way,
and not in any.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Way, shape or form.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
I was surprised that they'd let me talk for so
long because I was riffing. I was like, you're cowardly,
you're conniving. You're commiserating and you know you're this, and
you know I said commiserating I think three times. And
that's why Rob lo of Island goes, I gotta stop
you commiserating me because I had said that.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
No one stopped me like I thought that somebody, well
they didn't know.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Wasn't that either, idn't know.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
His definition is right and so is my definition.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I'll and hey, both definitions.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
No, no, because there was there there there's there's more
than one definition to like words have.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
I could read the definition.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Rob's definition was right, but my definition what I was
intending to say, it made for great TV commission.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Well, social media ate you alive for rock comment. And
then a few days later I kind of saw it
kind of went fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean I even saw something like yeah, so when
people were going, I don't think that that's what he meant.
And you know, so.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
How do people so much you hate him? I I
enjoy him.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I enjoy him on the show.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I'm probably the only one that enjoys him because I
like loud mouse and people that stir things up, and
that's what he does.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
You know, Michael, I would have liked to have seen
you still fight with him. I think I could use
a couple more round table of the two of you,
because absolutely the next episode, nobody speaks up at the
round table because Michael's gone, Like it wasn't the same
without you. A lot of you know, you're a big personality.
So but let me ask you something, because I know
your love for the Housewives, were you upset, well, the

(20:47):
Housewives and the tour they kept you around because they
liked your distraction. But were you upset about Porsche's thing?
Because you were always a big fan of Porsche. Porsche
kind of came at you, youmong as.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
Fans of Porsche's. I was upset that I felt like
she was a trader.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
I was upset that that first you know, that first
round table, I had to vote her out. You know,
you can tell that I was upset, But I was
even more upset than probably you can tell, because like
it hurt me, probably just as much as it hurt
her voting out the Great Porsche Williams.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
But that is the name of the game.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
And I did believe she was a trader, and I
had to do what was best, especially because she had
accused me of something. Although it was a misunderstanding and
now that you watch it back, Candice had sort of
set her up. Yeah, and then she didn't backpedal, which
was crazy for me, Tamra Dolores.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
For me to be sort of lightly.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Gently attacked by two housewives in front of two other housewives,
I was like, holy shit, I mean, like fucking like
outer space.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
It hurt my heart for you.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
I was like what I was like. I watched his.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Throw up because like, it means so much to him.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
He is the biggest and best and really a fan
of ours, and he's been so good and all.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
These years supportive of our shows. And if you were
a trader.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I wouldn't have I wouldn't have even voted for you, Mike.
I'm sorry. Not aside from being a friend you've been.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's a trader, Michael.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
If you were a trader, would you have been as
outspoken as you normally are?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
How do you shut it off?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Fan?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yes, you would have.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
You know what the words. I was so, I thought
for sure they were going to make me a trader.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I thought for sure, Well, you're disappointed.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
It wasn't so much disappointed. I was prepared.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Did you ask Alan to be a trader.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
Yeah, I said, Yeah, I want to be a trader,
I said, but I also said, you know, like I
didn't want to. You know, I told Alan, I want
to be a trader. I said, but if I you know,
I also know, like I could say I want to
be a trader. But if I say I want to
be everybody, I think everybody says they want to be
a trader because I've seen you know.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Does I mean they're going to make me a trader?

Speaker 7 (23:01):
If if I had been a trader, I definitely, I
definitely would have went about my entire disposition differently. But
as soon as they made me a faithful I felt
such relief. Yeah, and it gave me freedom to sort
of start talking shit and start naming names. And that
first night, that's what I did when I said to

(23:21):
Rob of Island, you know you're sitting there, you haven't
spoken to anybody. You're bat in your eyes. And then
I didn't even accuse the housewise. I said, you know
that they hunt housewives And I said, I didn't accuse anybody.
I just the only one who I accused was Rob
of Island, because I was like, what's up with this dude?

Speaker 6 (23:35):
I mean I was a fan of his shoe. I
saw him on Love Island.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
So but yes, if I had been a trader, I
definitely would have been way more calculated, for sure, I
would have had to have been.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
So you suspected that Rob was a trader right out
of the box.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
What about what about Alica and kandas.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Not a not a freaking clothes.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
They were good, right, weren't they good?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
What about Donna?

Speaker 6 (24:00):
I did think Donna was a trader. I wasn't sure.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Again, you know, so many things get cut out as
all three of you guys know. Yeah, I said to Ron,
I don't know why they didn't put the shin in there.
But we were one time, me, Ron and Donna were
in the car. We were in the car two days like,
you know, and while it's on camera and I said
to Ron, I said, and he looked away, and then
I was like, are.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
They both fucking traders?

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Because he didn't answer me, because I was like, she
said something, and I was like so, but you know,
I wasn't sure about it. You know, when it's early
in the game, you don't you know, somebody blinks, You're
like they're a trader, you know, you don't know, somebody
asked to go and like last year, you know they
they got to rent out and this year they got
poor shout and you know, those first couple of days
are challenging, which is also being a fan.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Of the game.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
You know why in those first you know, a few
days of shooting, like I was just like, let's let's
let's go, man, Let's let's let's get it going.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Let's let's go.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
We can't talk about your experience on Traders with out
talking about your eating habits and drinking. It's Michael, just
right off the bat, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Get it to us?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is this normal or were you starve? What was happening.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
The drinking?

Speaker 7 (25:16):
I will say this as all three of you know,
when you're doing a reality TV show, what you're wearing,
although it might look casual obviously with the house eyes
you guys, you know, doll up, it is wardrobe for.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
A TV show.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
That morning, when I was drinking my water in my
wardrobe filming the TV show and front of multiple cameras,
some water spilled on my wardrobe. So later on during
the conversations, at one point when someone was talking to something,
I drank the water with two hands I do not
drink water with two hands.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
But do you eat like that?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
You eat, you're just trying to not get food on
your shirt.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
The shoveling technique.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
The shoveling technique, I will not defend explain at times.
If I am alone, if I'm eating ice cream, I shovel.
If I'm eating ice cream over a table. I might
not shovel when I'm in a restaurant. I don't shovel
when I when I'm in public, I don't shovel.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
But when you're on TV, you're shove.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
But when I'm on TV after doing a challenge, my
back hurt and I'm in a library by myself.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
I was like, they're not going to use any of
this fucking footage I'm and I actually said, and.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
I said to the cameraman, because you know, I'm eating
for like fifteen minutes, and also I am there is
no table. And the reason why I had it like
this is because I didn't want to let it get
on my wardrobe. So I don't which I'm not going
to defend. I do do the shovel. I hold the
fork like a gorilla. I know this, but I said
it important.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
They showed that though, Mike, God, thank god they showed that.
But tell us something because let me just.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Say one thing.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Let me just say one thing.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
So I'm eating for ten fifteen minutes and there's three
cameraman with beautiful, high end cameras, and I looked over
to them. It's the only time I said it in
the camera. I said, I know when you I cursed it.
When you motherfuckers went to film school and you spent
all your mother's and father's money on film school. The
last thing you thought you'd be doing is filming Michael
Rapport stuffing his face for fifteen minutes and they all

(27:17):
were laughing.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
So, yeah, I shovel the food. I didn't want to
get on my wardrobe.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
But I'm not on the end of phil But this
is part of my personality, Like I don't mind, you know,
put myself out there.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
You know. Some of the things people got, some of
the things people didn't get.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
I said that I'm the dopest, smartest, best looking, faithful
three times on camera. And some people are like, I've
seen people doing videos, go I wish I had Michael
Rappaport's confidence. I wish I And I'm like, do you
really think that I thought that, like you like, I'm
like I said it three times, there's got to be
you got to catch a wink wink at some point.
So it's it's just funny. Some things land, some things

(27:54):
do land. Something's totally get, some things you know, don't
get and all that stuff. But I don't mind. You know,
I always said this about myself. It takes a genius
to play to the fool. I don't take myself seriously
unless it's about a serious issue.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And that's how I love that.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
You Yeah, so it's not like, you know, you know,
maybe I should, you know, I should, you know, start
doing that a little bit more.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
But there's no fun in that to me now either.
To me, it's easy.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
I could sit here and do an interview and give
you guys all the straightforward answers. And I feel so
bad about this, and oh I regret that. I like,
it's like it's a show man. It's like there's it's entertainment,
and you know, like I said, the only thing that
I didn't want to do is offend anybody watching the show,
or certainly offend the cast and uh A Coulton specifically.

(28:38):
Other than that, let's go you know, there's things that
got cut out that I felt like, you know, would
have told a better you know, Michael Rapports story. But
it's not the Michael Rappaport show. It's it's Traders and
there's twenty three cast members to uh service.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Are you saying you're not going to go to the reunion?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
We saw that. I'm out there by the way.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
You know what, Let me ask you guys this. I'm
asking you as a friend Loris and Tamras, somebody who's
in og In Wells, if you were me, do I
go to the reunion and just be like totally myself
If someone in my opinion is insulting.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
Do I respond? I could?

Speaker 7 (29:20):
I could be just totally sweet and nice and all
that stuff. No, Like, I don't know what.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
Like you know, but you need.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
To go, and you need to be yourself and I
need to go.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
You need to talk to Colton, like, you know, with
some compassion and obviously you guys have had the conversation,
but you need to.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Be Yes, I think you need to go.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
I have to go.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
If you don't go, it looks like you're running from
what was said at the round table.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
The biggest no no in the reality world is to
not show up, no matter how it's gonna go. It's
worse to not go than anything that happens.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
If I have to go to the fucking reunions, you
have to go. Okay, every fucking year.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
For fifteen years, I've had to go to the reunion, good,
bad and ugly.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Michael Rappaport has to go.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
He just made his decision for him.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Don't be a pussy.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
No, it's not about It's not about that.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
It's just like, there's the majority of the like I
could go through each person, but like some of those people,
they I'm not going like. I don't not gonna like
some of those people. I do not give a fuck
what they think about me. I could give two fucking
shits because we spent hours and hours and hours, and

(30:37):
if you want to take one moment and make me
into something, there's something deeper at play, and I ain't
gonna go down that rabbit hole. But but I was sweet.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
I was way more chill when the cameras weren't rolling. Also,
when the cameras.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Were rolling, it wasn't like I was running around the
house like a fucking lunatic.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
You know, you guys know what it is.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
It's hours and hours and hours we're in the It's
not like I'm like, yeah, you're doing practical jokes and
tickling people, you know. You know, it's like they showed
They showed a lot of that stuff, and that's cool.
But it's like they got a good sense of what
I was like in real life, and some of it
I don't appreciate from a couple of people. For the

(31:17):
most part, everybody in there was chill, But there's a
couple of people.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
I'm like, if you.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Say something, I have to like, do I not give
the people what they want? Because the people are like, oh,
we want to see Mike flip out, or do I like,
I don't know, like do I treat it like a character.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
It's yourself.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
You're going to push your buttons going to the scene.
Just so you know, I'm talking to you like a friend,
and Tamra is gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Don't fucking cry or walk off scene.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
And I just don't let them bait you. Don't let
them bait you. They're going to try to bait you
for that for that press.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
You know, the thing is to be honest with you.
The Holton thing that moment. I would love to give
on camera for that. But it's not even that because
like it's the coltona.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
It's just it's just yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
There's a there's there's a there's a few other like
things that I'm like, this is like a personal thing.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, well, given that you've talked to Colton and Colton's
cool with you. I mean I don't think that that
that's all that really matters. You give a ship, what
all is that other fuckers think?

Speaker 5 (32:25):
But they're gonna want I mean, if I know, if
we know people, they're gonna want.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Like this got a lot of press, a lot of play,
and a lot of attention.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, you know what the irony of this whole thing is,
and this is people that don't know how to make
good TV making bad decisions and then in the hindsight
changing and going full six? Is that the reason why
they wanted to get you out? It was bad faithful
play because I think everyone knew you were in a
faithful They wanted to get you out because you were
a distraction right at the moment for sure, So everyone

(32:58):
was annoyed that you were talking to much much. You
are taking all the oxygen in the air. They didn't
realize at the time you were making fantastic television. Now
fast forward to this reunion where they're going to push
your buttons and make you do the thing that they
were annoyed with in the beginningock you out right, and
I'm sorry, like I have to say that. You know,

(33:19):
and on our season, I thought the Traders were doing
a bad job. On this season, I think the Faithfuls
are doing a bad job. Getting someone out that they
know isn't a Trader just because they don't like them.
I think is bad gameplay and it doesn't help the
end goal. And in that respect, I commiserate with you

(33:41):
because I didn't think you should have been ousted like that.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
I appreciate it. I mean, you know, it is what
it is.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
I get why at that moment it happened. You know,
if I wasn't up on the child, I might probably
would have gotten killed that night.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
I know. Listen, my name was being thrown around from
the beginning.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
It wasn't just he's such an asshole we voted him
out with is sort of what it's spun into.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
And and that's neither hear nor that.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
But when you say they're going to try to get
you to say something or who Andy Cohen?

Speaker 8 (34:09):
No, non protect because who's the other Like I feel
like some of the cast members, some of the cast
members or.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
You know, you had some unresolved things.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
You know what's funny about jam Jam?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I comfort she sounds.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I was just gonna say that.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
I would love I would love I would love for
her to I would love for her to explain all
of that other than you stabbed me in the back
of my big other than outside of the game.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
I'll be like, I don't know what you're talking.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's all about the game. That's playing the game.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Like, yeah, that that is for it hurt me as
much as it hurt her. I'll tell you a Porsche story,
my Porsch story after this. But the thing, the one
thing that they cut out and I called the producers
after I had my little tift with Damn Jam in
front of the cast on camera. I said to him

(35:05):
because I knew that the volume went up and the
tension went up, and I know this is not what
we're there for.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
We're there for you know, we were not. No one's
there for that.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
And I walked over to him, I said, yo, I
want to apologize to you.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
We got off on the wrong foot whatever I did,
I apologize.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable, and I
certainly don't want to make the rest of the cast
feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
And he said, okay. We hugged it out.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
I complimented on his gorgeous outfit. I complimented his beautiful
chest hair. We had a nice moment, and that was
a button on that thing. And I told the producer,
I said, listen, like I said to you guy, I
don't mind being the fucking govone. I don't mind being
the bad guy. I said, but you took that moment out,
which is number it's a button on that storyline and
number two. It's like, it's just not fair because it

(35:51):
was there and it was sincere and it also turned
the volume down, and they were like, we hear you.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Like, you know, I'm sure you guys have all had
this conversation in the past two I.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
Thought that was whack. As far as Porsche, here's a
good story. You know you're you're sequestered. The day after
Porscha got voted out, I was on a walk with
the producer. They take you out, they give you sunlight,
you're exercise and I'm you know, I don't.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
I don't look like this without exercising. Wells, I'm fit.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
I'm shredded because I put the work in. So I'm
in Scotland, I'm running up steps, push ups, burpies. I'll
share my workout with whoever wants that. You could d
n but I don't look like this by accident. I
know some people like, where do you Where does the
drawlne come from? I said, I put the work in.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
So in between the ice cream.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
Well, while Porscha was leaving the castle after she was banished,
there's a there's bright sunlight when you walk into the
castle and I see someone walking towards me. Then I
hear before I first could see the face Michael. Now
I'm like, I know the voice, Michael. Now that's she
steps past the light. Fuck you Michael.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
And the producer.

Speaker 7 (37:07):
I mean, she's like thirty feet away. It wasn't in
my face. She's like, you know, halfway down the hall.
And the producer said question. He said, he said, are
you okay? I said, you know what I said, I understand.
I know it sucks to go home this fast. I
know she's got a young daughter.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
It's cool.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
I also DMed her as soon as I got home,
I said, Porscha, I love you, I adore you.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
I fond o.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Does I know you have for years?

Speaker 6 (37:31):
And I told you we had a conversation in the castle.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
I got to ask her everything for years, cause she's
the only housewife I've never met.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
I never met her.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
So when I was sitting with her, you know, during break,
I was like asking her about SMI asking her about this.
She was giving me all the tea because there was
no cameras around, there was no pocket she was giving me.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
And she knows how big of a fan I am.
I DMed.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
I said, Porscha, I'm so sorry I voted you off.
I got the game got the better of me. I
hope you have a great summer. Sending you and your
beautiful daughter love. That's the extent of my relationship with Porsche,
the great Porsche Williams, the beautiful portion.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Did she respond?

Speaker 6 (38:08):
She didn't respond.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Did She's impressed to her and she said some things
that to me, it's like, I don't know where these
things are coming from unless you're talking about something personal
that you don't like that I do politically or social
commentary online. That being said, I don't want any beef
with Porsche Ones.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
I love her.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
I'm still a fan. But that's a good story because
she said Michael Michael, fuck you. And I was like, oh,
because I know I know what that means.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It was just a moment. She'll get over.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
She's gonna yell at him, at she's she's gonna mad,
be mad. Just be prepared at the reunion, because when
housewives get to reunions, that's when they know they're supposed
to air it out.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
So that's that's when the claus come out.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
And I'll let her give it to me.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
But it's the personal ship, like the personal texts like
I don't we we had nothing but good thing And
I've never said anything but for years, and I never
even criticized her as a housewife. I wanted to send
her I think I said in the DM, I want
to send you flowers.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Bring bring something for her to the reunion.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Just take the beat in and let the poison out.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
That's suspend over and take it.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Take your colonoscopy from Porsche and that's it and just
get it over with. But with Michael Michael Michael tell
us about some other housewife stuff. Did we miss anything?
Is tell us something we should have seen that we didn't.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I know, you got.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
There's there's a scene.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
And the only reason why I'm saying it is because
the house housewive nation deserves to see it. I'm not
going to say what the context of it was, what
it was about, because it's up for them to say.
But there's a scene. Let's just call it a conversation
between the Great Derenda Medley and the Great Carolyn Stansbury
in front of me another cast and I can't remember

(39:56):
and Lisa Renna that's had no nothing to do with traders,
nothing to do with who's a faithful And it was
so like I was like, I literally like this.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
I looked down. I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Michael, that was like a Christmas present for you.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
That was It wasn't a moment, it wasn't a comment.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
It was somebody was setting somebody straight, and then they
set them straight again. Then they set them straight again,
and then they warned them how they were going to
set them straight again if they needed to be said.
That sounds like I'm not saying anything.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
I ain't saying it. It's for them to chair it.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
But I don't know why they didn't put that or
at least some of it in there, because so god,
I mean, there's a beginning, middle, and end of it.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Oh, it's just like a passing comment, like I caught it.
It's a full scene.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Well when that rant goes, we know who you're talking about.
When that happens, there's no stopping it. It's like it
gains momentum as it's going. It's like a train that
that lost its breaks.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Some say it's the d Ring. They might say it's
a detri. I don't know. I'm not.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
I've been on the other end of youranda at Bluestone manor.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Was it me?

Speaker 7 (41:08):
I was like, I do not want that at me.
I don't want this. I don't want clip. I don't
want to make it nice. I was like, I can't
have that happen to me.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
So played it cool. She's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
I'm not seeing that side of her.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
I mean she's worried when Ron, when Ron functions who
just got voted out and said, don't ask me by
my fucking family. I don't give a fuck about what
you said. I'm surpris you know it was crazy about
that as I was right there. That was the same
night as my best saw yea, and no other cast members.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Badter than I. Not one of the men that was nasty,
by the way, guy.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
To talk to a woman like nasty, she didn't do
nothing about that.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
I'm surprised no one came to her defense. They came
to call's defense. He's six four, two hundred and thirty pounds.
To talk to a woman like that, and I would have.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
Went to her defense if I was sitting there. I'm
surprised the other housewives didn't jump in.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
I'm surprised somebody else because they got so offended at
so many other things.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
I just was like, WHOA, what's happened?

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Well, how about one of the housewives who were traders
and they couldn't get they couldn't get murdered if they
went after somebody else, Why didn't they jump in?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Kansas was after him anyway.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
I'm just surprised.

Speaker 7 (42:16):
I just think, you know, with all the with all
the sort of sensitivity to language a guy, if I
had said that language to a girl or a guy,
I think I'd be I'd be in prison in Scotland.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Still, you'd be held to a different standard for sure, Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Well I would you have step back at that table.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
No, I would.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
Have never, never, sweet misunderstood lovable Ron. He's just misunderstood
that moment. Just you know, he's just a misunderstood God.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I don't like the way that everyone's treating Ron on
this show, if I'm being honest with you, And obviously
I'm only getting one perspective, but I felt like he
had some really good, you know, good points. He had
people that could corroborate his points against Porsch or Tiffany Porusia,

(43:16):
like I thought his his body of like evidence, I
thought was really really good compared to Colton, who had
gone against someone and was wrong about and no one
seemed to go after him. But everyone kind of ostracized Ron.
And what broke my heart when I watched the show
is that he like walk into rooms and people would
just like it, kind of gave like an unpopular kid

(43:40):
in yeah snow, and I didn't like it.

Speaker 6 (43:43):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
And I like Ron, and I'm a fan of Ron's
comedy and all that stuff, and I don't have no
problem Ron, But I will say outside of the roundtables,
only time he engaged only time he showed that, and
then afterwards it was it was like pulling teeth to
just light light stuff and and and that's why I
think it's sort of built up to that, you know,

(44:08):
for whatever reason, you know, I think he's shy, whatever
the case is. The Roundtables was was one guy, and
it was funny, and he said about his investigations and
it was very compelling. But you know, a lot of
the other time, you know, I agree with Derinda. I
tried to connect with him, you know, just you're you're
killing a lot of hours.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Yes, you're spending a lot of time.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
He can get the cameras, you know, like or even
with the cameras, it's like, yo, what's up, how you feeling?

Speaker 6 (44:33):
You know, you talk to your family.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I think he ostratized himself.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
I think so also, And I just think, you know,
he's lucky. It was my night, the Colton Knight. Because
when you say I don't give a fuck about what
you and you don't fucking ask me questions to me,
that's like, you know, producers should step in, because that's
if someone else had said that, or I said that,
I'd still be in prison in Scotland.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, I mean, that's true. That's really showing his character.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I don't know why he got away with that, and
I don't know why Durinda didn't go after because she.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
Was trying her best to just keep it together and play.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I have a feeling that your phone's gonna be bringing
off the hook for other reality shows. I see how
Civilian you do? I see Special Forces? What is there
any reality shows out there? The competition shows that you
would like to.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Do Bachelor in Paradise.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
I'm married, by the way.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I love his wife. His wife is.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
My wife, has a lot of feelings about some of
the some of the things that have some of the
some of the eye rolling in the comments from that.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
I loved that.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
I wanted her on too, by the way, because she
is really she's very smart, she's brilliant, she's beautiful.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
She she she she's probably not camera ready to talk
about it because she's fucking pissed about some of the
some of the some of the some of the stuff.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
Because she's my wife and she's my best friend, and
she's yeah, she was, you know.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
I had called Dolores the Champion for advice, and she
gave me the same advice that my wife was gonna
just shut the fuck up, don't you know, don't talk Jill.
And like I said, that was my game plan. Everybody
has a game plan until you get in that fucking castle.
Uh uh, and you know the cameras are going, and
then everybody has a game plan. Soil you get in
the castle and you're a faithful and uh you're you're

(46:25):
trying to attack traders, So.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Mike a tiger can't change his stripes. Man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Have you been on What It Happens Live yet?

Speaker 6 (46:34):
No?

Speaker 7 (46:34):
I had to actually cancel. I was going to be
on this this week with bows.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
From uh Beverly Hill, But no, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You need to go on there?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Hold on you, hold on. Stop. You evaded the question,
which was a good one. There's a lot of other
reality probably will want you on. Is there any other
one that you would go on?

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Man?

Speaker 7 (46:55):
Well, I have to I have to think very very
hard about that. I mean, it's as much as I
love Special Forces, shout out to the Champa Judas who
superseded all expectations. And I mean she walked away with
the co champion with the other other girl. But Ga
was incredible, incredible, you know, as much. And I think

(47:17):
that show is fascinating. I do not think I would
make it to the fucking airport, like, I am not
cut out to do all that.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
I'm with you on that mean jumping out a plane.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Close enclosures, tunnels done.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Yeah, enclosures. I think I could do. There's a couple
when me and my wife watched it were like, could
you do that? Could you not do that? And and
like but the majority of its fuck no. So you know,
I don't know. I have to see, you know what
I have to see and and and and and think
about it.

Speaker 7 (47:48):
It's not like, you know, this was just something that
I you know, they came to me and and and
and I was available to do it, so I was like,
I'll do it. I don't know, And I certainly don't
want to misrepresent myself because you know, in real life,
and I know probably like people like, get the fuck
out of here.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
And really I'm pretty fucking boring. I'm not that. I'm
not like me.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
That's how I am.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
I'm either on or I'm off cut to cut to like,
you know, like me in an airport, you know tomorrow,
like you know, stuffing food in.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
My mouth and you know all that stuff, like we
caught him doing this stuff. So I don't know, Well,
I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to I
have to really, really really you know, assess it.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
What about returning for like an All Star Trail?

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Yes, hell, yes, hell yes, I would like to go
back to ire.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
With Boston Rob and uh uh you know a few
of the others that, I mean, they have to bring
the I don't know, they have to bring all the
champions Ship. I don't know, like, yeah, I would be
for that. I run it back that that I would
definitely do.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
I would.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
I would definitely do that because I know what I'm
getting myself into.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Uh and and and I would. I would. I think
people would be like, oh, ship, he's back, because.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
I you know, I came, I saw, I conquered, you know,
the the dopest, smartest, best looking, most gas lit faithful
of all the faithful.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
I use that language.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Now, you got to put that on your tombstone one day.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, you got to use that language, that gas
lit ship.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
They fucking gasolt me wells and uh you know, hopefully
they'll have some other some more quotables now that I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Hopefully I hope the ratings state.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
I hope. I hope.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
You know, the micro Ratport fan base doesn't you know,
abandoned ships keep watching guys.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
I hope. I hope the ratings don't dip.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Oh, well, well that's for you.

Speaker 7 (49:45):
I'm doing I'm on tour, I'm doing shows. I'm actually
performing the next couple of weeks in a couple of Connecticut.
I'm doing comedy, and i'm actually uh finishing a film,
uh that that I'm working on.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
And you know, I'm moving and grooving, staying out of trouble.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I'm waiting for you to put me in one of
your movies.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
Michael, Yo, if somebody doesn't do it first, I know
that Dolores is going to be a fucking actress and
can kick the fucking ass. There was somebody that I
was trying to get done that. I was like, Delorus
is going to be in it.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
We were in Patterson together, me and Michael. So that's
gonna happen. That'll come to Fruisian.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
I can't because you can be an actress for sure.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I don't know. I don't know what I could be you.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
You could be Dolors, you could be you could definitely.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
You could be either like you know, like like like
a real house you could be like a tough houns
of you could be a fucking mob boss.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
You could be like I want to.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Just be somebody's I want to be a mob wife.
I want to be a carmelo soprano. I was born
to be that.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
That's what I want to be.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
And the only thing we got to do is we
send Martin Scorsese the clip of going of you going
Welcome Back Scumbag.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
No.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
I keep saying she needs a podcast called that Welcome
Back Scumback.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Michael, New Jersey? Do you miss it? Real Housewives of
New Jersey?

Speaker 6 (51:16):
The bear shit in the Woods?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I mean, who do you think? Do you think they
should bring the whole cast back? What do you think
they should do?

Speaker 6 (51:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (51:23):
Yeah, listen this revamping, you're playing with fire when you're revamping.
I think that between Teresa, Melissa, Joey louis based on
what I know. I don't know any anything else. I'm
just going on social media. I think they they've come
to terms that it would be it would be good

(51:44):
for for for for all of them and for their
own peace.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
You know.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
The thing, the thing that about their relationship and their dysfunctions.
They're not a married couple, they're brother and sister, and
it hurts obviously, it hurts the fans.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
It has to hurt them, It has to hurt all
their kids. So I would love to see them come back.

Speaker 7 (52:01):
You know, I feel like, you know that we're developing
some other great younger people in Jersey.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
It got a little whacky because you guys know, it's
got to.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
Be the balance between fun and and and drama, and
then you can't go past it into your dysfunction where
people feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
And I think it leaned towards you.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
I don't think it went off the rails, but I
feel like, you know, with Dolores, I mean, are these
are stars, These are reality TV fucking icons. So I
feel like it need to be run back and this
revamp and shit, you know, you know, you.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
Don't get lightning in a bottle, especially now.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
Because so many of these younger people they grew up
watching reality TV.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
So they're not gonna come with their.

Speaker 7 (52:41):
Hands down the way you came with your hands down
and your guard down, and that rough rugg And and Roy.
It comes in contrived and their TikTok influence. Yeah, because
they grew up watching it, so they kind of know
the pitfalls of it, where you know, the ogs that
still are in the game. I think you have to,
you know, just like the New York women, like the Luynes,

(53:01):
the Derinda's.

Speaker 6 (53:02):
Uh you know, Ramona uh uh.

Speaker 7 (53:05):
You know, and and and that crew you know, uh
uh you know, uh you I feel like I feel
like they they they they screwed them, They screwed them.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
They went out to I gen't understand why. You know,
it's COVID and all that ship.

Speaker 7 (53:16):
But it's like, you know, with Jersey, what's talking about
Teresa Judaics. This is just talking about Mount Rushmore ship.
This is Teresa fucking Judaice and now her daughter's come on,
you gotta figure this out.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
We're talking about Joey Gorga, my brother, you're my sister.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I love.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
Before it was in four K. This ship wasn't even
in four K. When you look back at that old.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
This is like just HD.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
It's like watching old black and white films from the fifties,
like this is iconic ship. So we need to we
need to have Jersey back.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
How do we fix New York?

Speaker 7 (53:53):
You either you either go with the big four and
and build off of them, or you you stop calling
it the real house as in New York.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I agree that they need they need some of the O.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
They need real they need the real New Yorkers. And
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I can't understand why they won't do it.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
I mean, you know better than me.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
I I I don't know, but I mean the wand
was awesome on that. That dating show Torenda is always
great Ramona, you know lover let her drive you crazy.
We're talking turtle time. Mm hmm do I didn't say anymore.
And you know what cares not about? Morgan does New York? Sonia,

(54:35):
Morgan does New York. So yes, the.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Real New Yorkers, They're real, real icons they are.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I have a question, you know, being a self proclaimed
you know, housewife fanatic, number one fan who from all
of the Housewive franchises that hasn't been on Traders should
be on next season?

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Good question, good question.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
I mean you could you could just shut your eyes
and pick. I mean all of them are fucking great.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
I mean what about Ken You would be sick Erica,
Jane would be sick beyond I mean you know, anybody
from Atlanta would be sick.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
They haven't had somebody from Salt Lake City yet.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
Uh you know, I mean there's you could really, I
mean the the the the Potomac girls are sick, the
you know, some.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
Of the Miami girls. But I mean you really we're
talking about champions.

Speaker 7 (55:32):
You're just but forget, forget the new thing going forward, forget.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Housewives hunting, hunk hunting.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Somebody who's in there, bat in their fucking eyes, knock
them the fuck out off the bat, all that.

Speaker 6 (55:47):
And all that shit.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
It doesn't happen to Welles. Wells was too pretty to
be on No.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
But Wells, Wells was it.

Speaker 7 (55:53):
You see Wells right now, he's got that that baby
face going. I think we Wells when you were on there,
like right now, you got the old well shit going
on there.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
I think like when you got out there, like you know, no,
but maybe if you.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Wear overalls with no shirt on make it further.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Well, you have to have a snake tattoo.

Speaker 7 (56:10):
Well you know that if I do go to the reunion,
I'm having big I'm wearing be dazzled.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
Uh overalls. That says the most faithful, faithful.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
You have to and not if you are going going
to the reunion, Michael, you have to don't be a quitter.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
You can't be a quitter.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
It's you got this, Michael.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
You can handle you can handle this. You're gonna go
to the reunion and you're gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I mean, that's not worth watching if you're not there
no offense, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I mean I've had I've had the Papa's annex just
to like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
Just what Wells just said.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
It ain't worth watching without the dopest, smartest, best way faithful.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
I had a hard time with this episode as soon
as I couldn't wait for the round.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Table and it was like you could hear you could
like crickets. I'm like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Where's entertained? You weren't entertained by Moro?

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Now you didn't.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
You didn't think Kristen the chef was. You weren't enthralled.
I like Johnny Weir, and Johnny Weir and and and
and Tara Lepinskin's are Olympic gold medal.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
You weren't.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Come on, they are an Olympic at.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
The end, a gold medal ship talker is what they need.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
I appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
I adore you, Dolores, I appreciated so much. You know,
I'm a ginormous fucking fan of yours from day one,
and Wells, like I said, been fucking with you for
year after year after year. And if if if I
was a single man, I'd come on Bachelor in Paradise
just to have you make some some Shirley temples for me.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Well, you come on and just like host a date
or something. I think that we would love to have
you just on the beach, just hanging out.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
Bring let me ask you a question. One question about
Bachelor in Paradise. Why they take it off that island.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
We moved, Yeah, we moved from Mexico, say Elita over
to Costa Rica. I think that everyone just wanted to
kind of revamp everything. And I also think that we
filmed it at a different time of which we couldn't
buy out that original piece of property for shooting.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
I felt like people going back there was something missing
from that show.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
And also this is just my own opinion.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
I feel like because on Love Island, people they don't
shake hands or even hug.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
They greet each other by sticking their tongues in their mouth,
which I think is great for the youth. I think
that's a really really good message.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
But out there, like when you see somebody just grab
their ass, stick your tongue, not in lick in their
mouth like stick, it is far down there. I think
that's a really really good message, and I think it's
really positive.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
Uh and and and author. I felt like.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
This season because it's on the heels of the you know,
the Love Island.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
I mean, it's I'm mere soft porn some of that
ship that's going on there.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
I felt like a Bachelor in Paradise, you know, sort
of was trying to play catch up.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
Anyway, I got to get out of here. I appreciate you.
I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yes, thank you so much for taking the time.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
He's in Israel right now. Oh my goodness, thank you, Michael.
Thanks for thanks for coming on.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
We love appreciate thanks for entertaining us. Michael.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
I'll see you later.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Wells see you, Michael.

Speaker 9 (59:24):
H oh.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Well, I think you guys convinced him, and I have
a feeling he's going to be at that reunion.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
He has to go to the reunion. Yeah, I don't
know why.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I'm not quite clear. Why he doesn't want to go.
Did you guys understand.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
He's because he's going to get attacked and no matter
what he says, he's going to be wrong. Just like
you know at the round table, Well take it.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Take it like a big boy.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
So normal people do not prepare themselves for these things,
like we're used to it, we live that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
But it's different for him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
It's always the ones of the big mouths like me
that are always afraid.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Yeah, like he doesn't know what's like, he's got to
go up against Portia, He's going up against some big
guns and then all this happening and it's right off
the press, right, so it's kind of like like it's
a fresh cut for him.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I just in terms of storytelling, character arc, he needs
to go on because you can't go out that way.
He needs to come back, say something to Colton, mend
those fences, and then have you know, a shouting match
against somebody else to write the ship. But I think the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Fact that he actually had a conversation with Colton and
they made amends and all that, and I think that
it is important for him to go on and say
like that was not my intention.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I didn't mean it like that and move forward.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
He said it immediately at the roundtable. But Tamra, you
know as well as I know, well as you're not
that familiar with this, is that you can make up
with someone in reality TV and then when you get
on that couch, all of a sudden or a week
even after making up, they're gonna forget that that you
guys made up. Yeah, they and that they said, okay,
we're good, but then all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
It's like me at the reunion, I mean at Bravo
Khan making amends with cast members and then going back
to the show months later to start filming, and then
we're rehashing what we just made amends about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
So, yeah, Button, Colton isn't a housewife, and I know,
and I don't think it'll go that way for him.
And I think that for everyone to heal from this,
Michael should go say his piece to Colton. Whatever they
talked about behind the scenes. I think it would be
nice to see it on the TV screens and just
kind of just kind of squash that deep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Okay, so you know Colton.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
A lot of people dislike Colton, mostly for his past,
but I really enjoy him on Traders.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
He there is no denying. So I filmed one season
of Paradise with him, and I know him pretty well.
There's no denying that he's very good at being on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Do you think he's different off TV?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
No, he's He's kind of the same person. But yeah,
he's got a little bit of a checkered past. It's
it's pretty public, you know, And that's why I think that,
like the audience is a little split between like how
they feel about Michael in comparison to Colton. It'll be
interesting to see how he navigates through the show as
as kind of like the walls start caving in on

(01:02:40):
him a little bit. Seems like everyone's gonna trying to
put their their mark on him. So I don't know,
this was such a fun episode. I just as someone
who's made a TV show for so long, I just
really appreciate people who are very good at making reality TV.
Me too, And I feel and I'm yeah, I'm sure, sure,
you guys are so used to this. I just feel

(01:03:02):
like Michael is very good at it. I'm sure he's
annoying to a lot of those people. But as a
viewer and someone who's absorbing this this content. He's great
and I think that TV is better when he's on
my screen.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think that was
very well put. And I think he got he got
a bad rap there, so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Huh, he got a bad rap upport.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Speaking of wrap and let's wrap it on up. Thank
you guys so much for listening to By Order of
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Traders Tea Ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Bye