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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey, I do Part two.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's your hosts, Golden Bachelott's Joan Bassos, and I am
joined by my fellow Bachelor Chapter two Gal from Bachelor
National alum, Cindy Colors. Today we are going to break
down all the latest news and celebrity divorces, new couplings,
and Chapter two drama. Cindy, I am so excited to
be covering this with you because I think we're girls
(00:43):
from the eighties and so many of these stories are
from like our generation of people, So like, let's dive
into it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Absolutely. These are all people that we know we've grown
up with, and you know they're here to prove that
there's no roadmap for any of us in Chapter two,
whether on reality TV or in real life.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So the first story I think, I love, Do you
want to do? I kick off Denise Richards. I know
that we both probably loved her when we were growing up.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I love her. She's so beautiful, so lovely, and you
know this is where chapter two gets real. Okay, So
the headline this week is Denise Richards scores a legal
victory in battle with ex Aaron Piper's over spousal support.
So Denise Richards has scored another victory in her legal
battle with Aaron with ex Aaron Pipers amid their ongoing divorce,
(01:26):
Denise fifty five now and attorney Mark Grosse appeared in
the Los Angeles County Court on Monday, April twenty seventh
in a hearing where they discussed her request to have
sensitive documents related to her finances sealed. According to court
documents obtained by s Weekly, Aaron fifty three and his
attorney were not present. What is she hiding? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
We like, I mean, like her life has been an
open book and everybody knows that she got ten million
from Charlie Sheen, So she's not hiding that. Like, what's
she hiding? What doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What did she want here? I just don't know that. Well,
I think they're not sealed from him. I think they're
sealed from us.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
From us, So what is it that she's posing once.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, let's let me finish reading what this article says,
because I think it'll be more apparent why she needs
to maybe hide some of these finances. So the judge,
Judge Joshua dee Wiser, granted the reality TV star's request,
which was initially submitted by Denise, and her legal team
by in February. February twelfth, actually inside the courthouse, Denise
(02:30):
was asked by the California Post when her lengthy divorce
with Aaron wood Or could come to an end. It's
hard to tell, is what the lawyer responded. Right, So
Denise isn't really saying she's keeping a lot of things private.
Are you thinking that there's something that she's wanting to hide?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It feels like there's spend a lot of time in court.
If you read the rest of this article, it sounds
like they've been in and out. You know, there's possibly
spen some violence, There has been other things have gone on,
you know, And I think about kind of when all
this started, which was while she was filming Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills and he was on the show with her,
and you know, there was a whole scandal that she
(03:11):
was having a physical relationship with Brandy Glanville, and so
I'm like, oh, you know, I feel like there's a
lot tangled in this that we don't know. And the
fact that he had this possibly violent past, you know,
clearly is concerning, but he's in huge denial about it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So he's in denial, he says, you know, for the
for the restraining orders against him. He said, it's not true.
They're conjured. Up. I have real I have the real evidence.
But Aaron was arrested in October of twenty twenty five
and charged with two felony counts two not one, two
felony counts related to injuring a spouse and two more
felony account of felony counts related to dissuading a witness
(03:56):
by force or threats.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So weird, what is that?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
He was subsequent released on bail, but the following month,
Denise was granted a permanent restraining order against him. So
there has to be some allegations, you know. Unfortunately, I've
had to look into some restraining orders in my past,
and at least in the state of Texas, you have
to have an abundance of information and abundance of threat
in order to obtain a restraining order. So there must
(04:22):
be something here, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I was thinking the same thing. So I did a
little more research, and I found an article that talked
about Richards when she was on the stand talking about
like why she needed a restraining order, and she said
that she learned of these several concussions that she had.
So like, she's claiming that she had several concussions, you know,
(04:44):
caused by him. And she says that that he who
he's a guy. He owns a wellness retreat, so he
does he teeds people for things like this, and he
had her go into a machine that he had that
helps diagnose concussions, and it claims that he diagnosed these concussions,
(05:05):
which seems very weird that he would do that knowing that,
you know, possibly he's the one that caused them. Why
would he then offer that to her? Seems very odd
to me, Like, all this seems weird.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
All of it seems weird. All of it seems like
a lot of drama. I think we're all happy that
they're unwinding it. But even now after the arrests and
after the permanent restraining order, there's still the finances to
deal with. So in December, Aaron requested spousal support from Denise,
claiming that he was in debt. Us Slater confirmed in
February that Denise was ordered to pay her ex five
(05:39):
thousand each month in temporary spousal support, which five thousand
a month for Denise is nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Nothing, Yeah, I mean I got to guess that his
wellness retreat isn't doing so well. I think it was
made a little more popular when they were on Real
Housewives of Verry Hills. But I think now that that is,
you know that he's not on it anymore, don't. I
think she's off of it now too. I'm pretty sure
she's not on it anymore. That maybe his income is
a little less. He's not getting the money from that.
Plus he's not getting the money probably as much from
his wellness retreat, especially like who's going to go to
(06:10):
a wellness retreat after you've heard the guys silent?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean, you know whether this is.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
True or not. It's out there in the universe now,
and so maybe it's not a place that you're going
to go for wellness.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And he's not the only retreat, Like we'll fight someplace else.
But what's interesting is earlier this month, Denise, this is
where she scored the real win in her legal battle.
A judge roll that any debt collection company cannot seize
any wages or other assets made by Denise in order
to pay Aaron's debt.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, and that's before he was married or during when
they're married. But it makes me thinks that that he
but they somehow did not merge their finances because I
feel like when you're married, normally your spouse's debt is
your debt also, and somehow she won that battle and
they did not say that she would have to like
cover his debt. So I feel like like this was
(07:00):
maybe on shaky crown in the first place, because it
sounds like they didn't have their their finances, you know, entwined.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That much, right, right, I agree. I just feel.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thankful that their kids kind of are coming out of
this hole I think. I mean, I think that she
has qwo kids with Charlie Sheen. It sounds like they're
all a little on the older side and they're not
like still part of the household where there's violence is happening,
but may have been at one time. So I just
feel like, you know, always I think about the kids
in these circumstances and that hopefully that they're coming out
whole and they don't have any like lasting issues from this.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And you know, it stands out to me, really is
with all of her presence in the world and all
of her public presence, how much restraint it takes for
her to older time to let her legal teams speak
for her and for her to just let the legal
system work. So I have to say, you know, I
appreciate that she's protecting her peace, and I realize how
(07:53):
much restraint it must take to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, I mean, she'll get her day in court. But
you know, I know that they don't have kids to gather,
so I guess the three kids that they have, it
sounds like he adopted one of them at one point.
He calls himself a stepfather, and I think the other
two from Charlie Sheen he has really no no tie to.
But I got to guess they were living in the
house sometimes when they were together, so hopefully they never
saw any of these violent things happening. And I agree
(08:18):
with you, you know, let her legal teams speak for her,
because you know, she probably has a lot of motions
tied up into this, and it's better. I think you're right,
better doing the way she's doing it. Happy though, we
have a happy.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
This one really makes me think of you. This one
really makes me think of you, So go ahead, why
don't you leave this one out?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I would love to Lorenzo Lamas calls girlfriend Heather Locklear
the most amazing woman after first public appearance together. How
great is that? Like icons are now together, It's so adorable.
He's gushing over his relationship with her. It sounds like
he is head over heels and In an interview with
(08:55):
Fox News Digital published on Wednesday, April one, has just
a couple of days ago. Actually I'm my dad birthday
renegade Alum sixty eight he's sixty eight years old, opened
up about finding love with the actress sixty four, more
than forty years after they first met, posting together on
the cover of Playgirl magazine. Now you and I both
went looked it up?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
We did, we did, Lorenza lamis.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Are they cute?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Tall, They're so handsome, so handsome in a shed.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Her skinny like little waist like twenty inch waist, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Bikini, and he's a aspeito standing behind her. It's a darling,
darling photo.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So wouldn't you love for them to do one of
those us then and us now, like in the same
exact outfits, because they're both in great shape still. They
both look so so so good, like them then and
them now, with the same outfits on like in the
exact same pose. I bet that would be I'm in
for it, Nick. Someone needs to tell them they have
to do that and put it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Out because well, you just did, Joe, you just did.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Somebody's listening. I think it would be such a good
Could you imagine reconnecting with someone after forty years, I
mean they've had a lot of history in those forty years.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, Lorenzo actually says, the short answer is no. He
told the outlet when he was asked if it whatever
would happen, he said, I mean, I've been through a
lot of trial and error and she's the most amazing
woman that I think I've ever met. And he has
been through it. He's been in and out of quite
a few relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, you know, and there's a part of me that goes, well,
there's a little bit of a red flag here that
maybe she ought to like maybe paying attention to it. Now,
she's had her own share of husbands and kids and
I mean everybody she's pretty famous for with you know,
Richie's Ambora, and then she had Tommy Lee.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Tommy Lee, she's.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Had kids with I think just with with Richie's Ambora, right.
I think she only has kids with him, but she
was engaged to Chris Heiser. I don't know who Chris
Heiser is, but I know that she's engaged, but they
split up. But when you look at Lorenzo, I think
I counted his relationships. I think most of them were marriages.
One was just a relationship. I think we have seven,
(11:05):
so I think they both liked to couple a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So okay, here, there's two ways to see it. We
could either wave the red flag on this one, or
we could say after seven relationships that you would still
be open to finding the love of your life. You know.
I think that's how I'm going to choose to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think that he's saying that it's been a lot
of trial and error, is what he says. And after
a lot of trial and error, I found the right person.
And I hope that's right, because I think we love
this couple and it makes us all happy and we
want to see it work out. And I hope that
all those previous relationships that he's been through. He probably
has no money left, though I hope nobody got speusal
(11:45):
support because he's going to be really poor at this point.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
If that happened. Well, maybe he could make some money
on a new photo, a new Playgirl cover.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh my god, how cute with that? Is Playgirls in
a business? I don't think it's even in business anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't know, and I don't know, I don't know.
I have to say this, this resurgence of love is fantastic,
and to have it, you know, it's timing is everything.
And who knows what would have happened if they had
met and continued a relationship after they took that photo.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, so there would be a lot of I feel like,
like relationships that would have never happened. I mean, but
and she's so famous for her like the bad boys
that she loved to couple up with, and he's just
like not a bad boy. He's a lover. Clearly, he's
been married. He's a huge, serious relationship seven times so
over the years. So we're I think we're both so
(12:34):
happy for them, and we're ready, we're putting out into
the universe. We want to see that picture again.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Absolutely, I'm in. I'm in for it for sure. So well,
this next one I think is right up my alley.
So if you wouldn't mind, I would like to take
a leave on this. I love it because General Hospitals.
Cameron Matheson so hot. He has tall blue eyes. I
love him. He's adorable and he's been dating and I
love his perspective. You just shared a quick glimpse of
his dating life after divorce from Vanessa Matheson and after
(13:03):
three years of being single, he says, I have been dating.
He's now fifty six, and he shared this exclusively with
US Weekly while attending Jenny Gar's iHeart podcast I Choose Me,
which is fabulous. It'd a live summit on Saturday. And
the whole app world is new to him. He said,
it's the whole new world. It's a whole like the
vocabulary is different, the timing is different. If you had
(13:26):
been married for twenty three years or twenty two years.
In his gaze and then hop out into the apps, yeah,
your head is whirling. And I thought that his honesty
in this was so precious.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's so cute. Can you imagine though, if you're on
the app that he's on and he pops up, why
didn't you just die?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
If you like, excuse me? Is this?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I know?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's so funny. He made a lot of white ride
on that one.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he made a lot of women really well.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I love that. He says later in the article
in his interview, is trying to distract myself from a
broken heart. I met a lot of amazing people particular
that became like a more committed sort of situation. But
at the same time, I hadn't been ready for anything
more serious. And this level of self awareness, I think
is so refreshing and so rare.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean he had a broken heart, she
broke up with him. He did break up with her,
and so he was healing. He dipped his toe kind
of in the dating world. And you know, and I
think you and I've both been like on the app
or on an app. I was on an app.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
On a TV show to look for and then there's.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That national TV and I for one of us. Yeah, well,
it could still work. Thatcher works in funny ways. Your
journey isn't over yet. But I do feel like, you know,
he dipped his toe in the app world. I feel
like he has opportunities to meet people out in the
real world. I mean, he's out there. He has probably
(14:52):
a pretty rich and exciting life, and he doesn't I
don't think it has to go on the apps. And
I think that he's going to meet somebody really amazing,
and you know, I wish him the best, and I
hope he's healing, you know, most of all, he can
heal and then move on to a new relationship, because
I feel like he sounds like a really you know,
sweet person. I mean, he talks about that he's diving
(15:13):
into it with kindness and respect for each other, and
like what a good guy.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And the way he talks about his ex wife and
the focus that he puts on his kids and created
a new family. While it's not the family that he
wanted perhaps or that he thought he would be, you know,
involved in, he's still so supportive of the family that
he created. And I just loved this for him. It's
kind of, I mean a little bit my story that
(15:38):
you know, I didn't really want my divorce. It's not
the family that I wanted. And yet you know, here
we are, chapter two and let's just you know, move
into it, make the best of it, and try to
be super positive.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I think it'd be great. I think he's such
a positive message. Anybody wants to check that out. It's
on the Choose Me podcast Jenny Garth's, and he actually
even speaks to one of our Bachelor alums. He speaks
with Ben Hinkott, so check that out. I think it's
worth checking out. He seems like a really, really a
dorble man. We've known him because he's super handsome, and
now he's also a really good guy, so check him out.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, I would have him in my tribe for sure.
What a what a great person to have around. Maybe
I'll go try to find him when I go to
La next and see my daughter. Go find him, girl.
We got to figure that one him. He's not ready
for anything serious, so we'll just be friends for a while.
But he would be you know, he's just you know,
he's just sounds like a great guy. And it made
a great place in this chapter two for him.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So yeah, and it sounds like the way he's acting
with his kids. There's also really you know, I keep
going back to the kids. You know, there's so many
of these Hollywood relationships don't work out and you think
the kids are their real victims. Sounds like they have
a really like good parenting style and for these kids.
So I love that after hearing all the terrible bad
ones that we hear for, you know, so often. That
(16:54):
makes me happy that they have figured it out and
doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, speaking of kids, we've got to talk about the
Kardashians because Chloe and Chris kind of made some news
this week, and Chris Jenner reveals why, you know, whether
she would marry her boyfriend Corey Gamble someday. And you
know this kind is right up here, Allie, Joan, I
should let you take the lead on this, so you
get a lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You get that all the time, and I love her answer.
It hits really close to home. First of all, they
met in Abiza like ten years ago, and you know,
I always wondered what he did. Always see Hi kind
of in the background in the on the kid our
Kardashian shows, and I really like had no idea, Like
he just appeared one day. I felt like I didn't
really know how it happened. It turns out he was
(17:47):
a talent manager and he was he actually worked with
Justin Bieber, so he's a big guy and he is
not hurting, okay. I kind of felt like he was
maybe writing on Chris Jender's coatails a little bit he is.
His net worth is supposedly fifteen million dollars, so I
feel like he's doing okay on his own. Who doesn't
need her. She certainly doesn't need him, but they are
a happy couple. And I feel like, at this stage
(18:11):
of our lives, and I'm just going to give you
my opinion, there is no reason to get married unless unless,
like that's an important thing to you, And it doesn't
sound like it is to her. She's not counting it out,
she's not saying I'm not doing it, but she's also saying,
you know, do I need to? She was on the
podcast with her daughter, and you know, when they asked
about future wedding bells, she was just like, you know,
(18:33):
no or you never know. She wasn't given a positive answer,
she wasn't given a negative answer. She and then Chloe says,
you know, you don't need to get married to get mom, Like,
what's the reason we're not, you know, starting a family again.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So it was such a cute moment. I think that,
you know, having Chloe step in and say, you know, mom,
this is not what you need and it's not what
any of the girls need, but if it's what you
want and Chris just was charming about it. She's like,
you never know, I'm full of surprises. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, And she didn't want to didn't really answer for him,
like she they said, you know, do you think he
wants to get rid? And she's like, I don't know,
you got it, you have to ask him. That pretty
amazing marriages in her life. She had Robert Kardashian first,
and then she you know, she had Caitlyn Jenner, so
I mean, and she has a lot of kids, and
she has a really rich life. And just having a partner,
like you don't have to marry a partner to have
(19:20):
a partner that's with you forever, you know, I think
I have that, and maybe we'll get married, maybe we won't,
but I don't feel like he's going to leave if
I don't marry him. And I'm not leaving him if
I don't marry him, so I'm sure. And also like
when you're this well known and maybe this wealthy, like
it might be hard figuring out the legal stuff. So
just by having her and having a person in your life,
(19:41):
you don't have to marry them.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, it was in their interview that I thought was
really cute. Every time I go on Facebook. I see
a picture of you and Chalk and it's all AI
and either you're married, or you're breaking up or you've Yeah,
it's just so funny to see the AI photos of
you and Chloe and her mom. And Chloe and Chris
talk about the AI photos. And Chris saw and AI
(20:05):
photo of the girls at a working at a restaurant.
She called him and goes, when was this? And the
mom that was AI. She's like, oh, okay, what are
trying to remember it?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's always AI and and you know, the social media
comes out with a story just because they want people
to look at the social media. And I mean, I've
been dead, I've been married, I've been we've broken up.
You know, there's been so many things, and we're just
a teeny little person in this universe. They are so
much bigger, so their stories are always bigger. There's more
of them, happens all the time. So I guess if
(20:36):
they got married it would stop those stories. But I
feel like they are kind of beyond that now. I mean,
Chris did say that they don't really bother her anymore,
and she says, you know, at one time they did,
but now she's kind of over it, and I kind
of feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, you feel the same way. It doesn't bother you
when you hear the rumors that you guys are broken
up or that I was dead.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The one I said I was dead really did kind of.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's a hard one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was like, it had like a picture of me,
and it had like my beginning date and my end date.
Like I was like, oh, that's kind of like hits
a little close to home.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That beats mine. I had one that my son died, oh,
which works terrible, But I don't have a son. I
don't have a son, So I didn't take it personally,
but if you know, it would it would have been
very hard to hear I was dead or my kids
weren't dead.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was It was a little weird. So
I think, you know, the breakup rumors, I almost feel
like everybody when you hear those, you almost double check them.
Now they're so common. Everybody's broken up or together or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well this rumor, this rumor is about them getting married.
So I'm gonna have to keep checking on you and
chalk to see if the rumors are real.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Just call me a girl.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You don't have Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I feel like the next story though, we watched this
whole thing play out on TV, so we know it's
real and this is a Valley star Michelle and I
don't know exactly how to say her name, SINAI just
three seven. I think we all know who she is.
If you watch The Valley, you know exactly who she.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Is, because she was.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
She's been a big storyline throughout the last three seasons.
She's thirty seven. And the story, though, is a good
one that she and doctor Dre sixty one are holding
hands in public, and that there are rumors now that
they are dating. Now this comes all on the heels
of her kind of whole story playing out on the
Valley with her now I think he's now ex husband Jesse,
(22:24):
but everybody loves Okay, So she's kind of been out
there in the news more than once. You see her
coupling up with people here and there. There's been rumors
that she had an affair while she was.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
On the Valley.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
He also had an affair. Supposedly, she gets around.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm just a little surprised about doctor Dre. What do
you think?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, and maybe she's auditioning for age of attraction. You
don't know, but I will tell you this. Nobody goes
to Nobu with someone of the opposite gender and holds
hand hands with them as you leave and expects that
to be silent. So I think there's a little story
of the pot here somehow. But you know, you know
(23:03):
you're going to be caught by the paparazzi at Nobu, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean they're right in the middle of la and
they're both very well known. I mean, she's been a
big storyline on the valley and he is obviously just
a star in his own right. I think that it's
their age difference is a little shocking for me. I
think that I wonder if both of them this is
a relationship of convenience, because they want to be out
(23:29):
in the public, they want the paparazzi maybe taking their pictures.
I mean, I kind of feel like they would feel
like they would come out in a different way.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I think that's well. It is kind of a classic
Chapter two move though, kind of unexpected pairings. When you
tried something and it didn't work, so why not go
kind of far away from what you tried and see
if that's really what was meant to be so good
for them.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, well, so I don't know how they met. I
don't know if I had to do with her real
estate career. Okay, so she's outside of her reality TV,
which is pretty popular on She's a luxury real estate
agent who specializes in multimillion dollar properties in La So
rubbing elbows with the rich and famous is nothing new
for her. And as for doctor Dre, his romantic history
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includes his headline making marriage and divorce from Nicole Young.
They tied the knot in May nineteen ninety six before
splitting in twenty twenty. Young received a one hundred million
dollars settlement. Again, her romantic life has been a storyline
on The Valley, but she's also, you know, kind of
been around. She's dated Aaron Nosler, though they parted ways
(24:40):
in the summer of twenty twenty five. Meanwhile, let's see
Meanwhile Lalie has been in a relationship with his girlfriend
Lacey Nicole and Orange County socialite who made a brave
debut in the Valley. And I did watch that one,
and I really actually liked it. So Jesse's dating a
girl and he's kind of trying to push her a
little bit onto Michelle because they have kids, and he's
(25:02):
pretty serious with her, and he really wants Michelle and
her to be good friends. And they end up on
a show together at a party, and Jesse is kind
of pushing his now pretty serious girlfriend on to Michelle.
So I feel like Michelle needs to like part ways
with that whole thing and let Jesse do his thing
and they have, you know, a kid together, But I
(25:22):
don't think that she needs to be part of his
other relationship. And she's good do or anything.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
So good for you, good for you, go and doctor
Dre and go to NOBU with doctor Dre. Absolutely it's
a good option.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But you know, I do think we have to look
at Like her most recent quote, and it said earlier
this month, she told BravoTV dot com that she was
on the market. I am not dating anybody, but I'm
open to it whatever whenever that time comes. So kind
of gives you a hint that maybe that was hype,
I don't know, or maybe it was a quickie, like,
(25:54):
you know, let's go out on a date. See how
it works. We're gonna walk out, we're gonna be holding hands. Oops,
they caught us, And now it's a story, but it
doesn't sound.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
She's share but she ends her quote which she's single
and ready to mingle, and so you would think that
if she's single, ready to mingle, that she wouldn't be
in a relationship. So I don't know which way to
take it. We better stay tuned on this one.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I know, I think we should. I think that GMZ
should be sticking out near doctor Drey's house in now
her house and getting the real scoop for us because
they're the ones who break it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Sounds perfect, okay, Well, our final headline is where Keith
Urban stands with his and Nicole Kidman's daughter's post divorce.
And this one breaks my heart and I know it
(26:44):
does for you too.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I remember the day that
they announced that they were splitting up. Do you remember
that day. It's like one of those things that sticks
in my mind because they were one of the few
iconic Hollywood couples that had made it, Like I had
no doubt that their marriage was great, Like there was
never a doubt in my mind that they were not
going to be together forever. And I'm trying to figure
(27:07):
out how this unraveled, and I don't think we know
very much, but it's pretty shocking that he doesn't have
a relationship with his daughters right now. And that is
like the weirdest part of this for me, because I
felt like she would take care even if they divorced,
she would take care of him, he would take care
of her. They always seem to be so kind to
(27:28):
each other, so this seems right to me.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And they have two daughters. They share two daughters, Sunday
Rose who's seventeen, and Faith Margaret at fifteen. Those are
tough ages anyway, and evidently Nichole's she was awarded primary
custody of the girls when the divorce happened, and he
has granted every other weekend with the girls.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, I'm not super surprised that she was awarded that
because I think he travels a time. I mean, he's
in concert, so I feel like he travels well.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And honestly, at that age, like we used to say
that once you get your driver's license, that determines custody, So.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I so agree. I mean, seventeen and fifteen, they're old.
You know what's the kind of most distressing. First of all,
I mean, he says he's very distraught over the situation.
He loves these girls, but they are so angry at him,
and they're blaming him, the insider said, and it said,
I don't even think this is Nicole painting a narrative.
This is the girls coming to the conclusion on their own.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's hard, you know, and dads are so important in
the lives of girls their that relationship is you know,
relationship with parents in general, but in particular, father with
a daughter is such an important relationship. Let's hope they
can patch it up. But you know, honestly, on the
other side, the girls are allowed to have the feelings
that they have.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I really worry that. I feel like the father
relationship is really important no matter what. And I worry
that they are fairly immature. They're fifteen and seventeen. They
don't have adult brain yet, and they are making a
decision that could be almost irreversible like this, like once
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you stop speaking. Every day that you don't speak makes
the gap even wider, and it makes it harder to
then bridge the gap to speaking again or to having
a relationship again. And I feel like these parents need
to help these girls out figure this out in a
better way, because I think one day, they're going to
be bitter. There could be remorseful. I feel like this
(29:28):
is this could cause real emotional damage to them by
making this decision. I feel like they're being fifteen and
seventeen year old girls that are pissed off, and they
need to have a healthier view of this for their future.
And I think maybe they need some therapy.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Maybe Keith needs to go talk to Cameron and kind
of compare notes and see how Cameron has decided to
keep the family together, and maybe Keith can learn a
little bit of something from him.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, it's just just really distressing the kids. The kids
part of all of these stories. When there's kids involved,
I feel really distressed for them. So I hope they
figured this out. I think that we all love both
Keith and Nicole and you know, I hope that this
they get this figured out. Yeah, before the kids, you know,
get more damage. There's more damage on the.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Kids right right. I don't think Keith is going anywhere, though,
I think he would welcome a text or a call
from them at any time. So there's still there's still hope.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The one word answers they were giving them, boy, I
can imagine like card that is on him. Yeah, makes
you wonder what happened there.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I don't think we know the whole story, and you know,
they're mad, and they they know more than we do,
and so they're mad about something and they just want
they'll work through it, So we'll do it. They have
two very loving, supportive parents, and you.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Know what, I think they're probably blaming them because I
think I read in this article that Nicole did not
want the divorce, it he suggested it, and that she
when they first separated, she hoped that they would reconcile.
So I think this continued down a bad road, and
I think I bet the daughters are blaming him.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, if there's one takeaway for chapter two, it's we
don't get things perfect, but let's just hope we all
find what's right for us in the end. But certainly
this chap or two can be fairly messy.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, and you know the celebs, they do it all
in public, so makes it harder, makes it hard on
the family, It makes it hard on the kids. I
particularly feel for the realities stars that do this on
TV because you watch it unwined week by week. Fortunately,
some of these are a little more private, like the
Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman one seems to be a
lot more private, but this seems like it's out and
(31:42):
open now with the kids. So I'm sorry for those
for the girls.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I agreed, completely agreed, and I'm just really happy that
none of my dates have been on TMS has caught
me holding hands coming out of NOBU. I know, you
know that that privacy, You know that privacy is important,
and even for people who choose the public lawe sometimes
when it gets messy, it's it would be nice to
have a little bit more privacy.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And it was even casual relationships. I mean, we were
looking at doctor Dre, you know, and Michelle and I
could have just been one date, or they could have
walked out grabbed each other's hands as they were walking
to the car, just in fun, and it became a
big story. So you never really know. Yeah, even innocent
handholding can end up being I mean, I remember I
was sitting in a pool a couple of weeks ago
with Carry Futman, who was my stylist from the you
(32:27):
know Bachelor, you know Carry thatman.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I love Carrie. He's gay, and I was.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Like sitting on a lounge with him, like we were
like cuddling. I mean, he's just like one of my
dearest friends. But like people could have thought something about this,
but there was nothing to think.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, that would have caused some real issues on Facebook.
We didn't even have to ai that seriously.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There, I was like cuddling with Carrie Fatman on a
lounge chair and easy. But you know, I guess you
have to be really careful. It's funny one I talked
to Chalk sometimes, you know, people come up. Women come
up to him all the time and ask to take pictures.
You know, this bachelor world is a little bit of
a women dominator world. I rarely get men saying can
(33:08):
I take a picture with you? It's always women. But
he has the same thing. It's women want to take
picture with him. And he said, I always worry that
people someone's going to take one of those pictures and say, oh,
Chalk was at a scene at a bar in Wichita,
Kansas with another woman. And you know, so anything can happen.
I mean, people can look at a picture and you know,
make up a story about it. That's that's totally not true.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Has it changed what type of picture you will take?
He has? Will he stopped putting his arm around. You know,
there's that soccer player who won't be photographed touching another woman. Yeah,
I really respect that, but you know that's kind of
extreme for you know, our world.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Thanks start. I mean, the fact that even pops into
his brain that he needs to be careful about that
is a little screwed up, right. I mean, you know,
he's out in this world. It's you know, bachelor world
is a lot of women, and he's recognized, especially in
his hometown, and people ask for pictures and he has
to be really careful or he he's sitting at a
bar and a woman sits next to him. A lot
of times he won't stay. He will like move down,
(34:06):
or he'll like somehow make sure that he has a
man closed room or whatever, because you know, anything could
be construed from that. I have a really, really, really
good male friend here in Maryland, like one of my
he's actually my plastic surgeon. He's one of my dearest
friends in the world. I've known for like thirty years,
and he and I go out to dinner, I mean
like once a month just to catch up. I know
his kids, he knows my family. He celebrates holidays with
(34:28):
my family. We are just really really really dear friends.
But I wonder every once in a while if somebody
took a picture of us, it would look odd. So
maybe that's the whole case with Michelle and doctor Dre.
You know, just it was an innocent meeting that ended up,
you know, it was really nothing, but people made a
headline out of it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Back in the day, I was in my twenties and
I worked for a very conservative company, General Electric, and
Jack Weltch at the time was our CEO, and he
made a point like, if whatever you're doing can be
put on the front page of the Walls Journal and
judged in a certain way, maybe you should consider not
doing it. And from that moment on I really reconsidered.
(35:07):
You know, I've been in sales my whole life. How
do you handle when you're out to dinner out entertaining
a customer? And so I made a choice back then
to never be one on one with me and another man.
Didn't matter who it was, could have been my friend,
could have been a customer, I still invited a third person.
And after my divorce, I've rethought that I think it's
(35:29):
not such a bad idea because it could give your
guests the wrong opinion. It could be a wrong impression
for other people watching you. But yeah, I don't know.
If doctor Dre wanted to hold my hand leaving NOBU,
I don't think I would refuse him.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Think I would either, I don't know. I mean holding
in is maybe a little more contact than what you
would have dinner. Yeah, but I mean the age different
is so big. I mean, I wonder if she's thinking, oh, no,
one's going to think we're together. You know, he's like
my father, he's like my father's age. But you know
people do because that's no you know, that happens. And
now in Hollywood a lot there is old and young couplings.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
All the time, all the time. You know.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I love that. Well, that was a lot to break down, though.
Slubs are going through a lot in their chapter two,
just like everyone else, just like us. Are you in
chapter two and finding out it's a lot harder than
you thought it would be. We're here to help. Send
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Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, we'd like to know. We want to hear from
We want to hear from you. Guys, this is not
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if you have a response, let us hear from you.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah I Do. Part two an iHeartRadio podcast where falling
in love is the main objective
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's your hosts, Golden Bachelott's Joan Bassos, and I am
joined by my fellow Bachelor Chapter two Gal from Bachelor
National alum, Cindy Colors. Today we are going to break
down all the latest news and celebrity divorces, new couplings,
and Chapter two drama. Cindy, I am so excited to
be covering this with you because I think we're girls
(00:43):
from the eighties and so many of these stories are
from like our generation of people, So like, let's dive
into it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Absolutely. These are all people that we know we've grown
up with, and you know they're here to prove that
there's no roadmap for any of us in Chapter two,
whether on reality TV or in real life.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So the first story I think, I love, Do you
want to do? I kick off Denise Richards. I know
that we both probably loved her when we were growing up.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I love her. She's so beautiful, so lovely, and you
know this is where chapter two gets real. Okay, So
the headline this week is Denise Richards scores a legal
victory in battle with ex Aaron Piper's over spousal support.
So Denise Richards has scored another victory in her legal
battle with Aaron with ex Aaron Pipers amid their ongoing divorce,
(01:26):
Denise fifty five now and attorney Mark Grosse appeared in
the Los Angeles County Court on Monday, April twenty seventh
in a hearing where they discussed her request to have
sensitive documents related to her finances sealed. According to court
documents obtained by s Weekly, Aaron fifty three and his
attorney were not present. What is she hiding? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
We like, I mean, like her life has been an
open book and everybody knows that she got ten million
from Charlie Sheen, So she's not hiding that. Like, what's
she hiding? What doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What did she want here? I just don't know that. Well,
I think they're not sealed from him. I think they're
sealed from us.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
From us, So what is it that she's posing once.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, let's let me finish reading what this article says,
because I think it'll be more apparent why she needs
to maybe hide some of these finances. So the judge,
Judge Joshua dee Wiser, granted the reality TV star's request,
which was initially submitted by Denise, and her legal team
by in February. February twelfth, actually inside the courthouse, Denise
(02:30):
was asked by the California Post when her lengthy divorce
with Aaron wood Or could come to an end. It's
hard to tell, is what the lawyer responded. Right, So
Denise isn't really saying she's keeping a lot of things private.
Are you thinking that there's something that she's wanting to hide?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It feels like there's spend a lot of time in court.
If you read the rest of this article, it sounds
like they've been in and out. You know, there's possibly
spen some violence, There has been other things have gone on,
you know, And I think about kind of when all
this started, which was while she was filming Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills and he was on the show with her,
and you know, there was a whole scandal that she
(03:11):
was having a physical relationship with Brandy Glanville, and so
I'm like, oh, you know, I feel like there's a
lot tangled in this that we don't know. And the
fact that he had this possibly violent past, you know,
clearly is concerning, but he's in huge denial about it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So he's in denial, he says, you know, for the
for the restraining orders against him. He said, it's not true.
They're conjured. Up. I have real I have the real evidence.
But Aaron was arrested in October of twenty twenty five
and charged with two felony counts two not one, two
felony counts related to injuring a spouse and two more
felony account of felony counts related to dissuading a witness
(03:56):
by force or threats.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So weird, what is that?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
He was subsequent released on bail, but the following month,
Denise was granted a permanent restraining order against him. So
there has to be some allegations, you know. Unfortunately, I've
had to look into some restraining orders in my past,
and at least in the state of Texas, you have
to have an abundance of information and abundance of threat
in order to obtain a restraining order. So there must
(04:22):
be something here, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I was thinking the same thing. So I did a
little more research, and I found an article that talked
about Richards when she was on the stand talking about
like why she needed a restraining order, and she said
that she learned of these several concussions that she had.
So like, she's claiming that she had several concussions, you know,
(04:44):
caused by him. And she says that that he who
he's a guy. He owns a wellness retreat, so he
does he teeds people for things like this, and he
had her go into a machine that he had that
helps diagnose concussions, and it claims that he diagnosed these concussions,
(05:05):
which seems very weird that he would do that knowing that,
you know, possibly he's the one that caused them. Why
would he then offer that to her? Seems very odd
to me, Like, all this seems weird.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
All of it seems weird. All of it seems like
a lot of drama. I think we're all happy that
they're unwinding it. But even now after the arrests and
after the permanent restraining order, there's still the finances to
deal with. So in December, Aaron requested spousal support from Denise,
claiming that he was in debt. Us Slater confirmed in
February that Denise was ordered to pay her ex five
(05:39):
thousand each month in temporary spousal support, which five thousand
a month for Denise is nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Nothing, Yeah, I mean I got to guess that his
wellness retreat isn't doing so well. I think it was
made a little more popular when they were on Real
Housewives of Verry Hills. But I think now that that is,
you know that he's not on it anymore, don't. I
think she's off of it now too. I'm pretty sure
she's not on it anymore. That maybe his income is
a little less. He's not getting the money from that.
Plus he's not getting the money probably as much from
his wellness retreat, especially like who's going to go to
(06:10):
a wellness retreat after you've heard the guys silent?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean, you know whether this is.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
True or not. It's out there in the universe now,
and so maybe it's not a place that you're going
to go for wellness.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And he's not the only retreat, Like we'll fight someplace else.
But what's interesting is earlier this month, Denise, this is
where she scored the real win in her legal battle.
A judge roll that any debt collection company cannot seize
any wages or other assets made by Denise in order
to pay Aaron's debt.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, and that's before he was married or during when
they're married. But it makes me thinks that that he
but they somehow did not merge their finances because I
feel like when you're married, normally your spouse's debt is
your debt also, and somehow she won that battle and
they did not say that she would have to like
cover his debt. So I feel like like this was
(07:00):
maybe on shaky crown in the first place, because it
sounds like they didn't have their their finances, you know, entwined.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That much, right, right, I agree. I just feel.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thankful that their kids kind of are coming out of
this hole I think. I mean, I think that she
has qwo kids with Charlie Sheen. It sounds like they're
all a little on the older side and they're not
like still part of the household where there's violence is happening,
but may have been at one time. So I just
feel like, you know, always I think about the kids
in these circumstances and that hopefully that they're coming out
whole and they don't have any like lasting issues from this.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And you know, it stands out to me, really is
with all of her presence in the world and all
of her public presence, how much restraint it takes for
her to older time to let her legal teams speak
for her and for her to just let the legal
system work. So I have to say, you know, I
appreciate that she's protecting her peace, and I realize how
(07:53):
much restraint it must take to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, I mean, she'll get her day in court. But
you know, I know that they don't have kids to gather,
so I guess the three kids that they have, it
sounds like he adopted one of them at one point.
He calls himself a stepfather, and I think the other
two from Charlie Sheen he has really no no tie to.
But I got to guess they were living in the
house sometimes when they were together, so hopefully they never
saw any of these violent things happening. And I agree
(08:18):
with you, you know, let her legal teams speak for her,
because you know, she probably has a lot of motions
tied up into this, and it's better. I think you're right,
better doing the way she's doing it. Happy though, we
have a happy.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
This one really makes me think of you. This one
really makes me think of you, So go ahead, why
don't you leave this one out?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I would love to Lorenzo Lamas calls girlfriend Heather Locklear
the most amazing woman after first public appearance together. How
great is that? Like icons are now together, It's so adorable.
He's gushing over his relationship with her. It sounds like
he is head over heels and In an interview with
(08:55):
Fox News Digital published on Wednesday, April one, has just
a couple of days ago. Actually I'm my dad birthday
renegade Alum sixty eight he's sixty eight years old, opened
up about finding love with the actress sixty four, more
than forty years after they first met, posting together on
the cover of Playgirl magazine. Now you and I both
went looked it up?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
We did, we did, Lorenza lamis.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Are they cute?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Tall, They're so handsome, so handsome in a shed.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Her skinny like little waist like twenty inch waist, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Bikini, and he's a aspeito standing behind her. It's a darling,
darling photo.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So wouldn't you love for them to do one of
those us then and us now, like in the same
exact outfits, because they're both in great shape still. They
both look so so so good, like them then and
them now, with the same outfits on like in the
exact same pose. I bet that would be I'm in
for it, Nick. Someone needs to tell them they have
to do that and put it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Out because well, you just did, Joe, you just did.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Somebody's listening. I think it would be such a good
Could you imagine reconnecting with someone after forty years, I
mean they've had a lot of history in those forty years.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, Lorenzo actually says, the short answer is no. He
told the outlet when he was asked if it whatever
would happen, he said, I mean, I've been through a
lot of trial and error and she's the most amazing
woman that I think I've ever met. And he has
been through it. He's been in and out of quite
a few relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, you know, and there's a part of me that goes, well,
there's a little bit of a red flag here that
maybe she ought to like maybe paying attention to it. Now,
she's had her own share of husbands and kids and
I mean everybody she's pretty famous for with you know,
Richie's Ambora, and then she had Tommy Lee.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Tommy Lee, she's.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Had kids with I think just with with Richie's Ambora, right.
I think she only has kids with him, but she
was engaged to Chris Heiser. I don't know who Chris
Heiser is, but I know that she's engaged, but they
split up. But when you look at Lorenzo, I think
I counted his relationships. I think most of them were marriages.
One was just a relationship. I think we have seven,
(11:05):
so I think they both liked to couple a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So okay, here, there's two ways to see it. We
could either wave the red flag on this one, or
we could say after seven relationships that you would still
be open to finding the love of your life. You know.
I think that's how I'm going to choose to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think that he's saying that it's been a lot
of trial and error, is what he says. And after
a lot of trial and error, I found the right person.
And I hope that's right, because I think we love
this couple and it makes us all happy and we
want to see it work out. And I hope that
all those previous relationships that he's been through. He probably
has no money left, though I hope nobody got speusal
(11:45):
support because he's going to be really poor at this point.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
If that happened. Well, maybe he could make some money
on a new photo, a new Playgirl cover.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh my god, how cute with that? Is Playgirls in
a business? I don't think it's even in business anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't know, and I don't know, I don't know.
I have to say this, this resurgence of love is fantastic,
and to have it, you know, it's timing is everything.
And who knows what would have happened if they had
met and continued a relationship after they took that photo.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, so there would be a lot of I feel like,
like relationships that would have never happened. I mean, but
and she's so famous for her like the bad boys
that she loved to couple up with, and he's just
like not a bad boy. He's a lover. Clearly, he's
been married. He's a huge, serious relationship seven times so
over the years. So we're I think we're both so
(12:34):
happy for them, and we're ready, we're putting out into
the universe. We want to see that picture again.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Absolutely, I'm in. I'm in for it for sure. So well,
this next one I think is right up my alley.
So if you wouldn't mind, I would like to take
a leave on this. I love it because General Hospitals.
Cameron Matheson so hot. He has tall blue eyes. I
love him. He's adorable and he's been dating and I
love his perspective. You just shared a quick glimpse of
his dating life after divorce from Vanessa Matheson and after
(13:03):
three years of being single, he says, I have been dating.
He's now fifty six, and he shared this exclusively with
US Weekly while attending Jenny Gar's iHeart podcast I Choose Me,
which is fabulous. It'd a live summit on Saturday. And
the whole app world is new to him. He said,
it's the whole new world. It's a whole like the
vocabulary is different, the timing is different. If you had
(13:26):
been married for twenty three years or twenty two years.
In his gaze and then hop out into the apps, yeah,
your head is whirling. And I thought that his honesty
in this was so precious.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's so cute. Can you imagine though, if you're on
the app that he's on and he pops up, why
didn't you just die?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
If you like, excuse me? Is this?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I know?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's so funny. He made a lot of white ride
on that one.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he made a lot of women really well.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I love that. He says later in the article
in his interview, is trying to distract myself from a
broken heart. I met a lot of amazing people particular
that became like a more committed sort of situation. But
at the same time, I hadn't been ready for anything
more serious. And this level of self awareness, I think
is so refreshing and so rare.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean he had a broken heart, she
broke up with him. He did break up with her,
and so he was healing. He dipped his toe kind
of in the dating world. And you know, and I
think you and I've both been like on the app
or on an app. I was on an app.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
On a TV show to look for and then there's.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That national TV and I for one of us. Yeah, well,
it could still work. Thatcher works in funny ways. Your
journey isn't over yet. But I do feel like, you know,
he dipped his toe in the app world. I feel
like he has opportunities to meet people out in the
real world. I mean, he's out there. He has probably
(14:52):
a pretty rich and exciting life, and he doesn't I
don't think it has to go on the apps. And
I think that he's going to meet somebody really amazing,
and you know, I wish him the best, and I
hope he's healing, you know, most of all, he can
heal and then move on to a new relationship, because
I feel like he sounds like a really you know,
sweet person. I mean, he talks about that he's diving
(15:13):
into it with kindness and respect for each other, and
like what a good guy.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And the way he talks about his ex wife and
the focus that he puts on his kids and created
a new family. While it's not the family that he
wanted perhaps or that he thought he would be, you know,
involved in, he's still so supportive of the family that
he created. And I just loved this for him. It's
kind of, I mean a little bit my story that
(15:38):
you know, I didn't really want my divorce. It's not
the family that I wanted. And yet you know, here
we are, chapter two and let's just you know, move
into it, make the best of it, and try to
be super positive.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I think it'd be great. I think he's such
a positive message. Anybody wants to check that out. It's
on the Choose Me podcast Jenny Garth's, and he actually
even speaks to one of our Bachelor alums. He speaks
with Ben Hinkott, so check that out. I think it's
worth checking out. He seems like a really, really a
dorble man. We've known him because he's super handsome, and
now he's also a really good guy, so check him out.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, I would have him in my tribe for sure.
What a what a great person to have around. Maybe
I'll go try to find him when I go to
La next and see my daughter. Go find him, girl.
We got to figure that one him. He's not ready
for anything serious, so we'll just be friends for a while.
But he would be you know, he's just you know,
he's just sounds like a great guy. And it made
a great place in this chapter two for him.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So yeah, and it sounds like the way he's acting
with his kids. There's also really you know, I keep
going back to the kids. You know, there's so many
of these Hollywood relationships don't work out and you think
the kids are their real victims. Sounds like they have
a really like good parenting style and for these kids.
So I love that after hearing all the terrible bad
ones that we hear for, you know, so often. That
(16:54):
makes me happy that they have figured it out and
doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, speaking of kids, we've got to talk about the
Kardashians because Chloe and Chris kind of made some news
this week, and Chris Jenner reveals why, you know, whether
she would marry her boyfriend Corey Gamble someday. And you
know this kind is right up here, Allie, Joan, I
should let you take the lead on this, so you
get a lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You get that all the time, and I love her answer.
It hits really close to home. First of all, they
met in Abiza like ten years ago, and you know,
I always wondered what he did. Always see Hi kind
of in the background in the on the kid our
Kardashian shows, and I really like had no idea, Like
he just appeared one day. I felt like I didn't
really know how it happened. It turns out he was
(17:47):
a talent manager and he was he actually worked with
Justin Bieber, so he's a big guy and he is
not hurting, okay. I kind of felt like he was
maybe writing on Chris Jender's coatails a little bit he is.
His net worth is supposedly fifteen million dollars, so I
feel like he's doing okay on his own. Who doesn't
need her. She certainly doesn't need him, but they are
a happy couple. And I feel like, at this stage
(18:11):
of our lives, and I'm just going to give you
my opinion, there is no reason to get married unless unless,
like that's an important thing to you, And it doesn't
sound like it is to her. She's not counting it out,
she's not saying I'm not doing it, but she's also saying,
you know, do I need to? She was on the
podcast with her daughter, and you know, when they asked
about future wedding bells, she was just like, you know,
(18:33):
no or you never know. She wasn't given a positive answer,
she wasn't given a negative answer. She and then Chloe says,
you know, you don't need to get married to get mom, Like,
what's the reason we're not, you know, starting a family again.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So it was such a cute moment. I think that,
you know, having Chloe step in and say, you know, mom,
this is not what you need and it's not what
any of the girls need, but if it's what you
want and Chris just was charming about it. She's like,
you never know, I'm full of surprises. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, And she didn't want to didn't really answer for him,
like she they said, you know, do you think he
wants to get rid? And she's like, I don't know,
you got it, you have to ask him. That pretty
amazing marriages in her life. She had Robert Kardashian first,
and then she you know, she had Caitlyn Jenner, so
I mean, and she has a lot of kids, and
she has a really rich life. And just having a partner,
like you don't have to marry a partner to have
(19:20):
a partner that's with you forever, you know, I think
I have that, and maybe we'll get married, maybe we won't,
but I don't feel like he's going to leave if
I don't marry him. And I'm not leaving him if
I don't marry him, so I'm sure. And also like
when you're this well known and maybe this wealthy, like
it might be hard figuring out the legal stuff. So
just by having her and having a person in your life,
(19:41):
you don't have to marry them.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, it was in their interview that I thought was
really cute. Every time I go on Facebook. I see
a picture of you and Chalk and it's all AI
and either you're married, or you're breaking up or you've Yeah,
it's just so funny to see the AI photos of
you and Chloe and her mom. And Chloe and Chris
talk about the AI photos. And Chris saw and AI
(20:05):
photo of the girls at a working at a restaurant.
She called him and goes, when was this? And the
mom that was AI. She's like, oh, okay, what are
trying to remember it?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's always AI and and you know, the social media
comes out with a story just because they want people
to look at the social media. And I mean, I've
been dead, I've been married, I've been we've broken up.
You know, there's been so many things, and we're just
a teeny little person in this universe. They are so
much bigger, so their stories are always bigger. There's more
of them, happens all the time. So I guess if
(20:36):
they got married it would stop those stories. But I
feel like they are kind of beyond that now. I mean,
Chris did say that they don't really bother her anymore,
and she says, you know, at one time they did,
but now she's kind of over it, and I kind
of feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, you feel the same way. It doesn't bother you
when you hear the rumors that you guys are broken
up or that I was dead.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The one I said I was dead really did kind of.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's a hard one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was like, it had like a picture of me,
and it had like my beginning date and my end date.
Like I was like, oh, that's kind of like hits
a little close to home.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That beats mine. I had one that my son died, oh,
which works terrible, But I don't have a son. I
don't have a son, So I didn't take it personally,
but if you know, it would it would have been
very hard to hear I was dead or my kids
weren't dead.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was It was a little weird. So
I think, you know, the breakup rumors, I almost feel
like everybody when you hear those, you almost double check them.
Now they're so common. Everybody's broken up or together or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well this rumor, this rumor is about them getting married.
So I'm gonna have to keep checking on you and
chalk to see if the rumors are real.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Just call me a girl.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You don't have Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I feel like the next story though, we watched this
whole thing play out on TV, so we know it's
real and this is a Valley star Michelle and I
don't know exactly how to say her name, SINAI just
three seven. I think we all know who she is.
If you watch The Valley, you know exactly who she.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Is, because she was.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
She's been a big storyline throughout the last three seasons.
She's thirty seven. And the story, though, is a good
one that she and doctor Dre sixty one are holding
hands in public, and that there are rumors now that
they are dating. Now this comes all on the heels
of her kind of whole story playing out on the
Valley with her now I think he's now ex husband Jesse,
(22:24):
but everybody loves Okay, So she's kind of been out
there in the news more than once. You see her
coupling up with people here and there. There's been rumors
that she had an affair while she was.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
On the Valley.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
He also had an affair. Supposedly, she gets around.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm just a little surprised about doctor Dre. What do
you think?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, and maybe she's auditioning for age of attraction. You
don't know, but I will tell you this. Nobody goes
to Nobu with someone of the opposite gender and holds
hand hands with them as you leave and expects that
to be silent. So I think there's a little story
of the pot here somehow. But you know, you know
(23:03):
you're going to be caught by the paparazzi at Nobu, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean they're right in the middle of la and
they're both very well known. I mean, she's been a
big storyline on the valley and he is obviously just
a star in his own right. I think that it's
their age difference is a little shocking for me. I
think that I wonder if both of them this is
a relationship of convenience, because they want to be out
(23:29):
in the public, they want the paparazzi maybe taking their pictures.
I mean, I kind of feel like they would feel
like they would come out in a different way.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I think that's well. It is kind of a classic
Chapter two move though, kind of unexpected pairings. When you
tried something and it didn't work, so why not go
kind of far away from what you tried and see
if that's really what was meant to be so good
for them.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, well, so I don't know how they met. I
don't know if I had to do with her real
estate career. Okay, so she's outside of her reality TV,
which is pretty popular on She's a luxury real estate
agent who specializes in multimillion dollar properties in La So
rubbing elbows with the rich and famous is nothing new
for her. And as for doctor Dre, his romantic history
(24:17):
includes his headline making marriage and divorce from Nicole Young.
They tied the knot in May nineteen ninety six before
splitting in twenty twenty. Young received a one hundred million
dollars settlement. Again, her romantic life has been a storyline
on The Valley, but she's also, you know, kind of
been around. She's dated Aaron Nosler, though they parted ways
(24:40):
in the summer of twenty twenty five. Meanwhile, let's see
Meanwhile Lalie has been in a relationship with his girlfriend
Lacey Nicole and Orange County socialite who made a brave
debut in the Valley. And I did watch that one,
and I really actually liked it. So Jesse's dating a
girl and he's kind of trying to push her a
little bit onto Michelle because they have kids, and he's
(25:02):
pretty serious with her, and he really wants Michelle and
her to be good friends. And they end up on
a show together at a party, and Jesse is kind
of pushing his now pretty serious girlfriend on to Michelle.
So I feel like Michelle needs to like part ways
with that whole thing and let Jesse do his thing
and they have, you know, a kid together, But I
(25:22):
don't think that she needs to be part of his
other relationship. And she's good do or anything.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
So good for you, good for you, go and doctor
Dre and go to NOBU with doctor Dre. Absolutely it's
a good option.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But you know, I do think we have to look
at Like her most recent quote, and it said earlier
this month, she told BravoTV dot com that she was
on the market. I am not dating anybody, but I'm
open to it whatever whenever that time comes. So kind
of gives you a hint that maybe that was hype,
I don't know, or maybe it was a quickie, like,
(25:54):
you know, let's go out on a date. See how
it works. We're gonna walk out, we're gonna be holding hands. Oops,
they caught us, And now it's a story, but it
doesn't sound.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
She's share but she ends her quote which she's single
and ready to mingle, and so you would think that
if she's single, ready to mingle, that she wouldn't be
in a relationship. So I don't know which way to
take it. We better stay tuned on this one.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I know, I think we should. I think that GMZ
should be sticking out near doctor Drey's house in now
her house and getting the real scoop for us because
they're the ones who break it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Sounds perfect, okay, Well, our final headline is where Keith
Urban stands with his and Nicole Kidman's daughter's post divorce.
And this one breaks my heart and I know it
(26:44):
does for you too.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I remember the day that
they announced that they were splitting up. Do you remember
that day. It's like one of those things that sticks
in my mind because they were one of the few
iconic Hollywood couples that had made it, Like I had
no doubt that their marriage was great, Like there was
never a doubt in my mind that they were not
going to be together forever. And I'm trying to figure
(27:07):
out how this unraveled, and I don't think we know
very much, but it's pretty shocking that he doesn't have
a relationship with his daughters right now. And that is
like the weirdest part of this for me, because I
felt like she would take care even if they divorced,
she would take care of him, he would take care
of her. They always seem to be so kind to
(27:28):
each other, so this seems right to me.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And they have two daughters. They share two daughters, Sunday
Rose who's seventeen, and Faith Margaret at fifteen. Those are
tough ages anyway, and evidently Nichole's she was awarded primary
custody of the girls when the divorce happened, and he
has granted every other weekend with the girls.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, I'm not super surprised that she was awarded that
because I think he travels a time. I mean, he's
in concert, so I feel like he travels well.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And honestly, at that age, like we used to say
that once you get your driver's license, that determines custody, So.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I so agree. I mean, seventeen and fifteen, they're old.
You know what's the kind of most distressing. First of all,
I mean, he says he's very distraught over the situation.
He loves these girls, but they are so angry at him,
and they're blaming him, the insider said, and it said,
I don't even think this is Nicole painting a narrative.
This is the girls coming to the conclusion on their own.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's hard, you know, and dads are so important in
the lives of girls their that relationship is you know,
relationship with parents in general, but in particular, father with
a daughter is such an important relationship. Let's hope they
can patch it up. But you know, honestly, on the
other side, the girls are allowed to have the feelings
that they have.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I really worry that. I feel like the father
relationship is really important no matter what. And I worry
that they are fairly immature. They're fifteen and seventeen. They
don't have adult brain yet, and they are making a
decision that could be almost irreversible like this, like once
(29:06):
you stop speaking. Every day that you don't speak makes
the gap even wider, and it makes it harder to
then bridge the gap to speaking again or to having
a relationship again. And I feel like these parents need
to help these girls out figure this out in a
better way, because I think one day, they're going to
be bitter. There could be remorseful. I feel like this
(29:28):
is this could cause real emotional damage to them by
making this decision. I feel like they're being fifteen and
seventeen year old girls that are pissed off, and they
need to have a healthier view of this for their future.
And I think maybe they need some therapy.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Maybe Keith needs to go talk to Cameron and kind
of compare notes and see how Cameron has decided to
keep the family together, and maybe Keith can learn a
little bit of something from him.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, it's just just really distressing the kids. The kids
part of all of these stories. When there's kids involved,
I feel really distressed for them. So I hope they
figured this out. I think that we all love both
Keith and Nicole and you know, I hope that this
they get this figured out. Yeah, before the kids, you know,
get more damage. There's more damage on the.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Kids right right. I don't think Keith is going anywhere, though,
I think he would welcome a text or a call
from them at any time. So there's still there's still hope.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The one word answers they were giving them, boy, I
can imagine like card that is on him. Yeah, makes
you wonder what happened there.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I don't think we know the whole story, and you know,
they're mad, and they they know more than we do,
and so they're mad about something and they just want
they'll work through it, So we'll do it. They have
two very loving, supportive parents, and you.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Know what, I think they're probably blaming them because I
think I read in this article that Nicole did not
want the divorce, it he suggested it, and that she
when they first separated, she hoped that they would reconcile.
So I think this continued down a bad road, and
I think I bet the daughters are blaming him.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, if there's one takeaway for chapter two, it's we
don't get things perfect, but let's just hope we all
find what's right for us in the end. But certainly
this chap or two can be fairly messy.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, and you know the celebs, they do it all
in public, so makes it harder, makes it hard on
the family, It makes it hard on the kids. I
particularly feel for the realities stars that do this on
TV because you watch it unwined week by week. Fortunately,
some of these are a little more private, like the
Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman one seems to be a
lot more private, but this seems like it's out and
(31:42):
open now with the kids. So I'm sorry for those
for the girls.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I agreed, completely agreed, and I'm just really happy that
none of my dates have been on TMS has caught
me holding hands coming out of NOBU. I know, you
know that that privacy, You know that privacy is important,
and even for people who choose the public lawe sometimes
when it gets messy, it's it would be nice to
have a little bit more privacy.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And it was even casual relationships. I mean, we were
looking at doctor Dre, you know, and Michelle and I
could have just been one date, or they could have
walked out grabbed each other's hands as they were walking
to the car, just in fun, and it became a
big story. So you never really know. Yeah, even innocent
handholding can end up being I mean, I remember I
was sitting in a pool a couple of weeks ago
with Carry Futman, who was my stylist from the you
(32:27):
know Bachelor, you know Carry thatman.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I love Carrie. He's gay, and I was.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Like sitting on a lounge with him, like we were
like cuddling. I mean, he's just like one of my
dearest friends. But like people could have thought something about this,
but there was nothing to think.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, that would have caused some real issues on Facebook.
We didn't even have to ai that seriously.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There, I was like cuddling with Carrie Fatman on a
lounge chair and easy. But you know, I guess you
have to be really careful. It's funny one I talked
to Chalk sometimes, you know, people come up. Women come
up to him all the time and ask to take pictures.
You know, this bachelor world is a little bit of
a women dominator world. I rarely get men saying can
(33:08):
I take a picture with you? It's always women. But
he has the same thing. It's women want to take
picture with him. And he said, I always worry that
people someone's going to take one of those pictures and say, oh,
Chalk was at a scene at a bar in Wichita,
Kansas with another woman. And you know, so anything can happen.
I mean, people can look at a picture and you know,
make up a story about it. That's that's totally not true.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Has it changed what type of picture you will take?
He has? Will he stopped putting his arm around. You know,
there's that soccer player who won't be photographed touching another woman. Yeah,
I really respect that, but you know that's kind of
extreme for you know, our world.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Thanks start. I mean, the fact that even pops into
his brain that he needs to be careful about that
is a little screwed up, right. I mean, you know,
he's out in this world. It's you know, bachelor world
is a lot of women, and he's recognized, especially in
his hometown, and people ask for pictures and he has
to be really careful or he he's sitting at a
bar and a woman sits next to him. A lot
of times he won't stay. He will like move down,
(34:06):
or he'll like somehow make sure that he has a
man closed room or whatever, because you know, anything could
be construed from that. I have a really, really, really
good male friend here in Maryland, like one of my
he's actually my plastic surgeon. He's one of my dearest
friends in the world. I've known for like thirty years,
and he and I go out to dinner, I mean
like once a month just to catch up. I know
his kids, he knows my family. He celebrates holidays with
(34:28):
my family. We are just really really really dear friends.
But I wonder every once in a while if somebody
took a picture of us, it would look odd. So
maybe that's the whole case with Michelle and doctor Dre.
You know, just it was an innocent meeting that ended up,
you know, it was really nothing, but people made a
headline out of it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Back in the day, I was in my twenties and
I worked for a very conservative company, General Electric, and
Jack Weltch at the time was our CEO, and he
made a point like, if whatever you're doing can be
put on the front page of the Walls Journal and
judged in a certain way, maybe you should consider not
doing it. And from that moment on I really reconsidered.
(35:07):
You know, I've been in sales my whole life. How
do you handle when you're out to dinner out entertaining
a customer? And so I made a choice back then
to never be one on one with me and another man.
Didn't matter who it was, could have been my friend,
could have been a customer, I still invited a third person.
And after my divorce, I've rethought that I think it's
(35:29):
not such a bad idea because it could give your
guests the wrong opinion. It could be a wrong impression
for other people watching you. But yeah, I don't know.
If doctor Dre wanted to hold my hand leaving NOBU,
I don't think I would refuse him.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Think I would either, I don't know. I mean holding
in is maybe a little more contact than what you
would have dinner. Yeah, but I mean the age different
is so big. I mean, I wonder if she's thinking, oh, no,
one's going to think we're together. You know, he's like
my father, he's like my father's age. But you know
people do because that's no you know, that happens. And
now in Hollywood a lot there is old and young couplings.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
All the time, all the time. You know.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I love that. Well, that was a lot to break down, though.
Slubs are going through a lot in their chapter two,
just like everyone else, just like us. Are you in
chapter two and finding out it's a lot harder than
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We want to hear from you. Guys, this is not
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Bleep! with Ana Navarro
Fear thrives in silence and confusion. Ana Navarro rejects both. Her voice is an antidote to today’s chaos. Her new podcast, Bleep! with Ana Navarro, takes on today’s most pressing issues with the voices most connected to it: decision-makers, political leaders, cultural shapers, and people on the frontlines of the story. The conversations acknowledge the emotions we all feel—despair, sadness, fear— but emerge with knowledge, perspective, and hope. The belief is simple: fearless dialogue can transform fear into courage, and courage into change. When fear dominates the headlines, this show digs deeper. Because information, debate, and conversation don’t just ease fear, they give us power to shape the future.
Hey Jonas!
Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.