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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey there, everybody, it is I Do Part two and
we've got two of your hosts here today. It's me
Amy Roeboch alongside my fiancee t J.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Holmes, and yes, is this the first time you've ever
introduced me like that?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah? I liked it?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh you did. We'll say, all right, we can say
it for a little while longer, it's not too much longer, all.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Right, dropping little hands about people already got one wedding
they're speculating about. Don't have them speculating about.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
All right, all right, So this is the podcast where
we get to talk to people who have all different
types of love stories and they're not the conventional ones.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And if you did it right the first time, you
like to say.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
This is not the show for you exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So today we get to connect with Marissa Rubinetti from
this season's ninety Day Fiance. We've been binging it, we've
all caught up to this point, but we have a
lot of questions for Marissa. This is one of our
absolute favorite television shows. It's all about finding love in yes,
unconventional ways, going out of this country to find the
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love of your life. And so Marissa, welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
All Right, so we have a lot to talk about
with you. This is I Do Part two. So yes,
everyone on the show, including your hosts, have been divorced.
Present party included. So yes, we actually got to meet
your ex husband on the show. Michael, tell us about
your part one. What happened with that marriage? How long
were you married, how long have you been divorced? Just
(01:48):
give us kind of an idea of what happened with
that relationship here.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, my ex husband and I met online, you know,
typical dating story, meet online, and you know, we jumped
into our relationship quite quickly, and then we moved in
together also quickly. We got married within three years of dating,
and then we were married for six and a half years.
Amongst that time, we had two children. We have two boys,
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and I'm not gonna lie to you, the marriage was
a bit tumultuous. It was a tough marriage. I don't
like to really talk too negatively about Michael, but we
butted heads. We were just not a good fit to
be a couple. I think we worked better as parents individually,
but it just it just didn't work out, and I
felt very alone in the marriage. And I felt very
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almost depressed, and it was just, you know, there was
one incident where things just got completely out of control
and then I decided, you know what, I have to
get out of this marriage. It's not really serving me anymore.
It's making me miserable, and it's time to move on.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It really was one incident that it snapped for you.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I think it's a series of incidents, but then there
was one major. Yeah, like a series of things that
just like keep building and building and building animosity.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Can I ask you said something? You will met up online? Yeah,
and now here we are talking to you about a
ninety day Ye. Are you just an unconventional dater? Well?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I love to meet people in person. In fact, I
mean I met Edward in person. We didn't meet online.
You know, some of the before the nine Day folks
they meet online, but Edward and I met in person.
But yeah, I actually like to go on conventional dating.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It's just funny that my husband and my ex husband
and I met on match dot com.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And we appreciate I think everyone listening appreciates you talking
about what happened, because look, people always want to have
some big story, but sometimes you're just not the right fit.
And it does take a tremendous amount of courage, or
it takes maybe that final moment where you have the
courage to walk away and say this is going to
be healthier not only for me, but for my children exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
So the kids were very young too, and it was hard.
I was really scared because you know, being a single
mother of two young boys is a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I was full.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Time working in a corporate office, so it was really scary.
But I feel like I really made the right decision,
because you're right, it just wasn't healthy for anybody.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So how long were you divorced before you met Edward.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I was divorced for not too long actually, and he
and I met the first time. A lot of people
don't know this is that I went on a girl's
trip very soon after I got divorced. Met Edward.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Makes sense, a lot of people do, ye, yes.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And I met Edward he was working at the hotel
that the girls and I stayed in. He was working
at the karaoke bar that night. You know, we had
a connection, but nothing happened. We didn't even kiss, like
a lot of people think, I go on vacation. I
have a one night stand. It's a vacation romance that
didn't happen, believe it or not. The other really funny
thing is that, like after I left Punta Kana that
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first time, we didn't speak for about five years. Oh wow,
maybe maybe it wasn't five. Maybe it was like four
or something like that. So we didn't speak for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Did we know this?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's really funny, I know is that I might be
getting the years wrong, but like it was several times
I would say it was like at least three years.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I mean even just a year later is a long time. Yeah,
several years.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Several years so, and COVID happened, you know, the world
kind of shut down.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Did you stay in touch? Did you exchange numbers?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So when I first met him the first time I left,
we stayed in touch for maybe a few months. But
then I was like, this is a young guy. He's
in Puntakana, Like what am I going to do with him?
Like I'm a single mom, Like I have to focus
on the kids. And nothing happened, and but I you
know what the thing is, I kept his number and
I always remember him because in that moment when we
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had a connection, it's like I felt alive again. You know,
I came out of a really tough marriage. I felt
worthless as a woman, you know, undesired, not pretty, and
he made me feel special. So I always say it's him.
It's like, you don't realize that that feeling that you
evoked inside of me, Like I never forgot it. So
years later, jumped to twenty twenty three, I book another
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trip to Puntakana with the girls and I was like,
I still had his number and I texted him. I'm like,
oh lah, and you know, I was like, you know,
I'm calling to Puntakana and he lost his mind because
apparently he lost my number. He never had my last name.
He's been searching for me for years on Marissa from
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Pennsylvania on Facebook and like, obviously that's impossible to find somebody.
And he just was like, I thought I'd never speak
to you ever again, and like this is crazy. He
facetimed me immediately just to make sure that it was
actually me, and yeah, so then we planned to like
meet again, reunite for the first time in several years.
When I went back to Pluinticana.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That is so cool the connection you talk about at
the karaoke bar the first time around, And that's a
value to folks who are listening, who are just getting
out of a relationship or something and you are you
just on Vaker. It was a quick thing. What is
it that made that a different type of connection that
was worthy of you at that time paying attention to
you know, it was.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
My first time out as a newly single woman. I
wasn't really in the market for looking, you know, for
a new guy. And there was something about him, the
way that our eyes connected, the way that he just
made me feel like I was like on a pedestal.
He just really like we just had a connection. It's
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very hard to explain, like a connection.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Say you remember how they make you feel that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, And he made me feel really special and he
made me feel like a life like, wow, I you know,
can still be desired by a man.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Now, what was your dating life like after you left
that time? I mean he didn't talk to him and
the years went by, I mean, yeah, what was dating like?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
I mean, on and off I'd meet some people, like
we date for a few months, but there was never
somebody that was the right one, you know, it was.
You know, a lot of guys are non committed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, we get a bad rap about that sometimes.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yes, yeah, I mean some some moment around noncommittal too.
But you know, the men that I kept finding were
non committal or not serious, not ready to like be
in a adult relationship. So you know, I just kind
of like was doing my own thing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm curious. Obviously, you work in the bridal industry, right,
you're still at Cleimfeld, which is the storied famous.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'm not, actually you're not. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We can get to that later, but at least you
were in that field, so weddings, bides, all of that
is all around you. Did you want to get married again?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
No, that's a that's a great question. No. I always
said never again. I will never get married again, absolutely not.
I will date, I will be in a relationship, but
I'm never going through with another marriage. And it's shocking
to me sometimes that I, you know, even considered getting
married again or getting engaged.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Why did you make that declaration?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Because the was really tough, was tough, the divorce was tough,
and then I have two little boys and bringing another
man into my life. And you know, I think that
sometimes divorces scar you and you have this idea like
I don't ever want to go through this again. You know,
I'll date, I'll have fun, I'll live my life, but
like to be in a legal marriage with somebody is
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not something that was ever going to be on my
radar again.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And yet walk in Edward. So you go back to Puntakana,
to the Dominican Republic and there was a reunion. What
was that? Like?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh my god, it was crazy. So I was with
my girlfriends Edward and I decided to meet. It was
a Friday night and guess where we went? A karaoke bar.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Why not keep it going?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So you know, he pulled up. He decided to pick
me up in an uber and he pulled up, got
out of the car and it was so surreal, like
to see him after all these years, and you know,
we gave each other a nice hug and got in
the car, went to the uber and it was very weird.
It's like we knew we had this connection and it
was so strong. But it was also like meeting a stranger,
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you know, So we get settled in, you know, we're
having a drink and like it just felt natural, it
felt right, It felt like I felt that like connection again.
And then when we read the karaoke bar, we had
our first kiss. And I always say that the first
kiss will determine the longevity or the relationship. Oh wow,
(10:28):
and it's an important moment.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
We should use that as that quote of the day tomorrow.
I like that kiss will determine the longevity of a relationship.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
The first kiss, you know, you know when you get
chills down your spine and you just feel like you're
just so connected to this person.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then when things don't work out, you can reflect
back and go, yeah, I kind of knew I'm the
first kiss.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Kiss isn't right, you know, when there's no vibe going on?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So all right, so fine, you meet up again. Yeah
there's a connection again. But how do you go from
that to Hey, let's get engaged. Why don't you move
to the United States and let's do this ninety day
Beyonce thing.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Okay, so there's a lot more to the story. Oh
so we had this first kiss, this is like our
first date ever, and I go back to my hotel.
I'm not gonna lie. I did try to get him
into my hotel because I needed a little bit more
of that kiss. But because it was an all inclusive,
they're super strict. That's hilarious, super strict. I would not
let him in. Please, this could be the love of
my life. Please let him come in. And they're like,
(11:29):
nocelet Yeah, he's trying to like make deals with the
security guard. I'm like, it's not happening. So I didn't
get to see him again that trip. That was it
what I know, and I had to leave like two
days later and I didn't get to see him. It
was horrible, but we stayed in touch and from that moment,
from the moment I left Puntacana, we never had a
lapse of time that we didn't speak. Never. We spoke
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every day. We would face him every day, and there
was a month that went by that we would speak
every day and we really get to know each other
intimately emotionally, you know who you really are, and it's
not about the sex. It's not about like this physical connection.
It's really about building an emotional connection. Because we're apart,
so I decided that I have to go back and
see him. So I booked another trip solo by myself,
(12:15):
a month later, and you know, I booked a hotel
in Puntacana. He came to meet me. We spent like
four or five lovely days together and I feel like
in that moment we really fell in love, Like we
really fell in love so deeply. And I left. We
cried and I'm like, am I ever going to see
you again? And he was like, we have to, And
then the relationship continued. Now I will tell you that
(12:38):
we were both in like relationships. I was kind of
dating somebody. It wasn't a very serious thing, but it
was somebody that was in my life, and he was
dating he had a girlfriend. And we made the decision
that we're both going to tell our significant others that,
you know what, we found somebody else, Like we're going
to be in this relationship together. And we both had
to break it off with the other people. So so
(12:59):
after the trip that I went to go see him
and when we fell in love, our love story continued
and it was years years of long distance. It was
two years of long distance. Now after year one, we
applied for a tourist visa because I said, I I
don't want to get engaged. I don't want to do
this I don't want to have to commit to like
(13:20):
a potential marriage, Like, why don't you just get He's
never been out of the country and never been on
a plane, So I said, why don't you just get
a tourist visa, come to the United States, Come stay
with me for a few weeks, and see if you
like it, See if you feel comfortable here, see if
our lives will gel together for a couple of weeks.
And he got denied, so we had no option. So
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the option was we have to end the relationship or
we have to apply for the K one visa, which
is a very difficult decision, especially for me who has
decided I was never getting married again. So I had
a conversation with my mom and she was like, you
know what, she goes, just put the paperwork in, because
we knew the paperwork would take at least a year.
And she said do it. If you change your mind,
just cancel the paper or cancel the process. So I said,
(14:03):
all right, I'll do it. And the next year we
continue to date long distance. I would go visit him
every six to eight weeks. Our relationship continued to get
stronger and stronger, and at that point I was like, Okay,
I do feel like this was the right decision to
apply for the K one visa.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You were seeing each other every month and a half, Yeah,
the two months for how long did.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
That go on? Two years?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That's there are people in the US a long distance
that don't see each other at all. That's a pretty
good commitment.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, I'm really grateful that I had the means to
do it. You know, I had time off from work
that I could, you know, travel when my kids were
with my ex husband for his custody days, Like I
was able to you know, go and travel them. Yeah.
So I was very fortunate, and I know that a
lot of people don't get to have that opportunity. So
I think that that also helped build our relationship and
help us get stronger and stronger versus like people that
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really stay apart.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Rose, you helped me here because we've watched every episode
of your current season, and we watch a bunch of
seasons of the show, we get a different impression of
your relationship. Yeah, listening to you than watching the show.
I know some stuff has to be left on the
cutting room floor, but there.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Are a lot of stuff, a lot, but a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It goes away in explaining or I mean, quite frankly
justifying this being a love story and beyond somebody who
is trying to track down a dayn Pisa.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah. And it's also people think that it was this
vacation fling and then I decided to bring some stranger
to the United States and be with my kids. I mean,
we've been dating for a long time. Even my whole
family went to Punta Kona at one point to spend
time with Edward, including my kids, including my sister and
her kids, and my parents. So this was a really
legitimate relationship. It wasn't just like a quick fling.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, And I think that is where people start to
skeptical when they watch a lot of different shows and
they kind of blump them all into one. But it
is the reason why we do really like this show
because it does feel legit. But I didn't even realize
how much depth in your relationship actually had because there
was a huge backstory before the cameras even started rolling.
So once you get to this place, everyone's on board,
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so to speak. I'm curious, at what point do you decide, hey,
let's do this television show, Like, how does the television
part of it come into.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
It, never on the radar. A friend of mine at
work had also gone through the K one visa process,
so she and I would talk a lot, and she said,
you know what, join this Facebook group. It's a great
forum for you to ask questions, learn a lot about
the whole process. I went into this Facebook group and
it was really helpful for me. It's almost like a
support group because it's a very hard process, you know.
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And one day I get this Facebook message and it
was from a casting director from the show, and she said, Hi,
I'm so and So, I'm a casting director for ninety
fa FE. Would you be interested in having a conversation?
And I laughed, and I like immediately called Edward and
I was like, this is a joke, Like it's probably spam.
And so I ended up writing back to her and
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I said, you know, I'd be interested to hear more.
But it's funny because a lot of the people that
knew us said, oh, you're going to do the nine
Day fiancee thing. And my immediate response was always like,
are you kidding me? Absolutely not, Never in a million
years would ever go on that show. But the casting
director calls me and I'm like, well, is this meant
to be? Is it serendipitous? I don't know. So I
had a conversation, one thing led to another, the whole
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casting process started, and then you know, a few months later,
they're like, oh, guess what You've been cast? And I
was like, before I even had a chance to say,
like yes or no, I was like, Okay, I guess
we're doing this. It just it just felt like, you know,
they presented this opportunity and I, you know, I ran
with it.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
How did that change a relationship if at all?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I think I put a lot of pressure on us.
I think that we knew our whole life was going
to be exposed to the public. And you know, no
relationship is perfect. We had our ups and downs, even
in our long distance relationship. It's not easy, you know.
Like we come from very different worlds, cultural differences. My
career versus his career is very different in terms of expectations,
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My lifestyle is very different in terms of what he
used to and I really struggled with the idea of
having him come here. I never I never wanted to
be in a relationship. I never and all the people
that have dated have never been about money. That's not
important to me that somebody has money that support me,
because I could support myself. But the idea of bringing
someone in and like fully supporting them and fully taking
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care of them and teaching them everything that they had
to know was it was jarring to me. It was scary,
and you.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Could see how that would take some of the romance
out of things. Even possibly it's like you take on
more of a maternal role or something, and especially with
an age difference, I wonder if that felt overwhelming or
it changed just the dynamic of your relationship.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I think what the age difference is that I never
felt like Edward was a kid to me. I never
felt like, oh, he was this young guy that wasn't
on my level, like in terms of maturity, emotional maturity.
He's even more mature than I am in that in
that realm. But I did feel like there's other aspects
of his life that were you know, he hadn't had
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the same life experiences at all, and so I would
have to teach him a lot of these things. And
the things that I know and the things that he
knows are just different. He knows a lot about baseball,
you know, that's great. That's his thing, like, and I
don't so I could learn from him in that regard,
but you know, it's it's it's just big differences, and
and that made us. That made it challenging, especially towards
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when it got closer to the day that he was
about to arrive in the United States, Like my anxiety
like skyrocketed. And he even told me he was like,
you really changed in these last couple of months, Like
because I was scared. I was terrified, like this was real,
camera's on you. And then it's like, okay, once you
get to the United States, Like what are you gonna do?
Like not get mad? Like you feel like you're in it,
you know, like you feel like like this.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Is a talk tic talk tick talk.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's right, it's not a long time.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's pressure for anyone.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, can I how do you combat or how much
does it annoy you? Or maybe you don't hear it
that much? You know the story, it's played out on
ninety Day plenty of times over all the seasons. Divorce
Woman goes down to the Caribbean, makes out with some dude,
brings back something. Sometimes it's a twenty four year old guys.
Oh your guys in his thirties. Still I'm saying, if
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people aren't looking you up and getting your background, there's
a lot of that background we are just learning here
that is missed and the impression is that you're I
think you're thirteen years older than he is. Yes, but
still does that bother you? Annoy you have? You had
to answer those questions to friends and family.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
All the time, all the time, all the time. I
mean some of this. I remember being at a party
one time and it was a friend of mine's husband
or something. I said, you know, I'm dating this guy
from the DR and they're like, oh, what are you
as green car ticket? And I'm like oh, And it's
just it's so insulting actually because I look at them
and I say, so, am I not worthy of love? Like?
Am I only like being used for a green cart?
(21:08):
Is that my only purpose? So it's hurtful and you
have to you know, everybody in my life had questions.
Everybody was like, who's this guy? Is he using you? Like?
So you just want to get to the country. And
I think a lot of people probably like you know,
there's been other couples on ninety de fiance American woman
Dominican man, and some of those relationships have not gone right.
(21:31):
We've watched those, yes, yeah, and it always comes down
to like, was he really in it for the love
or was he in it to get to the country.
And I had to fight against those ideas and opinions NonStop.
I still feel like I do something.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Wow, your mom is I liked her a lot watching her.
She's a tough cookie, she's very protective of you. Yeah, okay,
Actually there were lots of parts of her that reminded
me of my mom, and a lot did you see Yes, absolutely,
it was like, oh my goodness, but no, she was
mama bearing and I loved it. But what who has
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given you the biggest pushback? And how have your kids?
And we saw them excited. You know that, oh yay,
Edward's coming. But that sounds exciting, and then when it happens,
it's usually a very different experience, or at least it's
an amended experience. Yeah, how has it been in your
tight circle in terms of pushback?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
My parents, for sure were the biggest people, Like they
had the biggest concern. I hate to talk about money
and listen, my parents like they do have money and
good for them. My stepdad worked really, really hard. My
real dad passed away two and a half years ago,
so we're talking about my mom and my stepdad. He's
worked his entire life. He's worked his tail off. I mean,
(22:48):
he didn't come from money. He was an army veteran.
You know. He grew up in a small little house
in New Jersey with the ceilings were like seven feet.
You know, he didn't have anything, and he built his life.
And I commend him for that same thing with my mother,
she was a single mom raising me and my sister.
We grew up in a little house in the Bronx.
It was my grandmother's house, so we all lived in
one little house. Like, I didn't come from money. I
(23:09):
didn't like you know, a lot of people have this misconception.
I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
Not the case. I'm a kid from the Bronx. I
didn't move to Pennsylvania until I was twenty one. And
you know, because now my parents do have wealth and
they are enjoying their successes in life, they want to
make sure that they're protecting that. You know, I'm sure
that there's an inheritance, you know, to come along with,
(23:31):
you know, in the event that they pass away, and
they want to make sure that I'm protected, my children
are protected, and everybody in the close circle. So they
were the most concerned, what are you doing, what are
you getting into? Are you sure this guy's legit? My sister,
my sister's not on the show. She didn't want to participate,
but she was also very concerned, and she would say, listen,
I hope it works out for you, but like, are
(23:52):
you sure you're making the right decision, Like you don't
really know what this guy's intentions are. I felt like
I did though. I felt like I knew his heart,
I knew his intention and we had such a strong
and unique love for another that like, I didn't have
concerns that he was using me, Like that was never
a thought in my mind, but looking from the outside in,
everybody feels that way.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The kids were different, they you know, like again boys
or boys, They're like, oh, great, mom is a boyfriend.
I think the only my older one, Derek, he did
have the biggest concern that he didn't want a new
man coming into his life that was going to play daddy.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I saw him say that to you, like he can't
just come in and expect me to say dad, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, and Cole just rolls with it and he's just
like whatever, okay, cool. But yeah, Like once the kids
met Edward, they loved him. When we all met in
Puenta con as a family, they loved him like he's
he's thirty's he's a young guy. He's fun. He could
play with the kids at a level that I can't.
And uh, you know, once Edward got to the United States,
the kids welcome to min and it was it wasn't
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a hard transition for us. That's all.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
How about your ex husband, Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
My ex husband, So my ex husband.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
We put that into words what she just did when
you said.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
She exhaled.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
He's exhausting an eye roll. He exhausts me. And I'll
tell you why. Because he is always going to be
the protect protective of the mother of his children. He's
super protective of the boys. And he came in with
this attitude like I'm gonna be nice, but don't cross me. Now,
Edward is like I mean, you've seen Edward on the show.
(25:28):
He's the sweetest, kindest, like human. He never does anything,
He never like starts any drama with anybody. And Michael
had this idea that, like, you know, something's not right
about him. He also thought, who's this guy from dr
using you for a green car? You know, like, and
it started off calm, and over the last couple of
months things have really escalated. It got kind of ugly.
(25:51):
He has doubted Edward's intentions. He's been really territorial about
the boys and like, you know, and it's just been
it's been really really difficult with my ex Wait.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
But is he's upset about something happening with it? But
what is it exactly he's pissed about.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I think that because Edward is a really strong baseball player,
so is Michael, and Derek plays baseball. Michael is the
coach of Derek's team, and there's this whole like battle
of like who's going to coach Derek better. Now, Edward
stays you know, in his own lane and he doesn't
try to like interfere too much, but at one point
(26:30):
Michael's like, oh, I could really use your help coaching Derek.
And then when Edward would start getting involved with the team,
he'd be like, well, this isn't cool, this isn't I'm
not comfortable with this, And it got like there was jealousy.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's jealousy.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, it was a cockfit.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Sorry, duh.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
What has it been like watching this season? Do you
watch it with the boys, like I've always wondered. This
is so fun to get to ask.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, I watched the show. The boys only want to
watch the parts that they're in together. That's fun. I
like to, you know, dissect what happens on screen. And
I sometimes cringe when I see myself or what I
was like, Well, parts of me were put into the
show and I'm like, oh, you know, like that looks
so bad.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But have you noticed things? I'm curious because we watch
a lot of these shows and we'll watch other people
be vulnerable and talk about their feelings and their egos
and all of these things, and then I'll be able
to go, ooh, I think I do that too, or
that's what's going on. Like we actually understand how we
react by watching other people react. But when it's you
(27:43):
watching yourself react, have you changed behavior? Have you changed
how you react to things based on how you've seen
yourself act on camera?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Absolutely? I haven't made like I made an Instagram reel
about this like that. I take full accountability I watch
myself back and I say, like, I am a giant bitch,
Like I am bossy. Listen, I'm not gonna lie. I
am bossy. I'm a bossy person. But it's because of
the role that I had to fulfill for the last
seven years that you know that I have to have
(28:15):
very good structure in my life. I have to control
things because I have two little kids to to make
sure are safe and well taken care of for. And
I like things a certain way in my house. And
it's like kind of funny, It's like, why would I
just allow disruption to occur in the house with like,
you know, shoes in the house or not having like
cleanliness or having the bed made, Like why would I
(28:37):
just allow this? Like I like to have things a
certain way. Yeah, yeah, So I mean maybe my delivery
comes off a little strong and I could have been
a little bit nicer. But you have to also remember,
like in the ninety days, it was really hard for me.
It was super hard because Edward gets off the plane
(28:58):
immediately before we even have two seconds together to give
each other like a hug and a kiss, cameras are
on and you just like, don't have that moment of peace,
and the anxiety's high, you know, like he's never been
on TV. I've been on minimal TV a couple of
episodes to say, us to the dress, but it's like,
you know, having your relationship exposed to the world, like
you're anxious and you can't relax. And then there's there's
(29:22):
a whole backstory about how I had asked Edward to
kind of prepare for his arrival in the United States,
get a skill, like, you know, save some money, do
all of this and you'll see it play out. But
it's like he didn't really do that, and that's where
my frustrations lie is that he didn't really come prepare.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, how much else or what can you tease about
the rest of the season as we sit here with
you now, we are up to episode what seven? You said?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I think that's the last one we saw with that
episode seven?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So how many are left do we have for the season?
Anybody not sure?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
But twenty something?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes? So, but what else can you tell us or
tease folks really need to stay tuned for this season? Well,
I guess even what other big moments are coming for
you guys?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah, well listen, it only gets worse it only gets
worse from here. You know, you're not going to see
Marissa all of a sudden become nicer. I think like
I hit a peak of like my bitchiness and then
you know, I start to calm down a little bit.
Oh yes, but it's to be honest with you, guys,
it was a really hard ninety days. It was really
(30:26):
really hard. I struggled a lot emotionally mentally. You know,
my relationship with Edward was not the same. If you know,
there was like there's some scenes that you know in
the first trailer, you'll see us in a scene where
we had like a kind of big blowout fight where
I was like, I don't know who I am anymore.
And I really felt like I was losing myself and
(30:47):
who I am because there was so much pressure that
ninety days, Like you said earlier, it was a ticking
time momb It really felt like that. And I have
the pressure of my family and my friends. Are you
making the right decision? And I started I thought I
was making the right decision, and then I start to
question everything in my life, like am I making the
right decision? Is this the right person for me? Am
I going to be happy? In the long run, and
it was very chaotic.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Would your answer has then been the same if we
took the cameras away, would that clock feel the same
and that pressure feel the same.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I do think it would maybe not as intense, and
maybe the whole world wouldn't have seen it, seen the
really ugly sides to me, But I felt it really strongly,
that I felt the pressure of everything, and I was
really true to who I was and my real emotions,
and that's what you see on TV. So while some
people could act nice and happy and like, you know,
(31:39):
pretend for the cameras, I didn't, and that's what you saw,
the real raw Marissa and her extreme emotions and anxieties,
and that's what came out. I mean, there was still
nice moments, but there's also a lot of like me
feeling like what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But I do think that that's part of the draw
to the show, is that it is so real and
that we all can relate. We've all felt, in varying
degrees the way you felt, like, certainly we know what
it's like to have a relationship scrutinized and perhaps viewed
through different people's lenses, who all want to have opinions,
who all want to have judgments, and that does affect
(32:13):
your relationship, that does put pressure on it that we
understand that to an extent. I'm curious when you you
say that you let it all out, you were exactly
who you were. I'm do you forget that the cameras
are there?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Okay? Because that I was just curious because it seems
so real. I'm surprised there isn't more of a put
on and more of a glossed over effect. I actually
think do they just get used to the cameras? Are
the camera crew really adept it not really being there
even though they're there?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Really do forget and even though there's like a camera
right here, Like you get really close to your crew,
and like, you know, I love the the crew is
the best, but like they they kind of come in
and you just kind of like accept that they're just
like people in your house there all the time, and
forget that they're and you don't really The funny thing
is you don't even know when they're filming or when
they're not. Sometimes cameras are rolling you don't even know it.
(33:07):
So it's it's it's it's an interesting feeling you do.
You know, at first you're aware, but then it starts
to become just like, oh, this is like normal life. God.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Can you imagine though, everybody that gets engaged in the
United States Americans, you have ninety days to get married
that stress. Yes, they gave us ninety days. People are
asking us all and we're.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Like, oh, we gotta, we gotta come up with a date.
We have to we have to say when we're getting married,
because yeah, so it's funny. We are engaged, and I
actually feel so grateful that we don't have a timeline
or some date that we have to get married by
or else. Like that is very joy your.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Engagement, yes, and for us it's like, you know, you also,
I didn't have any wedding plans. You know, maybe some
people started their wedding planning when they were like eighteen
years old. I did not. But you also have this
like okay, pending wedding, it's going to happen in ninety days,
and like do you move forward with planning a wedding,
booking a venue, booking vendors, all this knowing that this
(34:07):
may or may not happen. I mean, so think about planning.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
A wedding deposits.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, this is a stressful time in itself, just planning
a wedding and now condense that time into ninety days,
along with all of the like getting used to each
other and the differences and like ironing out all the
things that happen when you move in together. Do you
guys live together? I'm assuming we do. Yeah, so when
you first moved in together, there's a period of adjustment
and you know, so think of that, agree plus planning
(34:34):
a wedding plus you know it's.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
And we've known each other for ten years before we
moved in together, and there still was an adjustment period.
You mentioned that you're no longer with the in the
wedding industry. What are you doing now?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Is that I love an update?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I know. So, Yeah, I was in the wedding industry
my whole career. I worked at Davis Bridle for twenty years,
Kleinfeld for five and I I didn't want to work
for somebody anymore. And I I don't know if you
know this. It might have mentioned quickly on the show
that I'm a bar instructor. You know, a bar is yes,
a stylent fitness and I'm a bar instructor, and it's
(35:09):
always been my passion and my livelihood. When I step
into the studio to teach a class, it brings me
so much joy and happiness. And back in twenty twenty,
I wanted to buy a studio, but it didn't work
out COVID the studio was not valued like appropriately to
the sale price, so I abandoned that. That's when I
went to go work for Kleinfeldt, and I had this
(35:29):
opportunity at the studio that I work at now, and
we also have a sister studio, so I bought the studio.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's awesome, congratulations.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
So yeah, it's actually when I'm making the big announcement
on Monday to the world and then I take over
ownership on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Next week's yeah, yeah, that's final. And I love this
is always people who are listening are looking for inspiration,
like a lot of us, many of us, at a
certain stage in your life, you get stuck. What you
thought was gonna happen, does happened. What you thought was
going to work out didn't. So to hear, not only
from a relationship standpoint, that you've made or had this
(36:08):
beautiful opportunity at a second go of it and look
at you career wise doing the same thing.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, that's such an interesting parallel too. It's like, you know,
in two big aspects of my life, I'm changing a lot.
But yeah, I'm super excited about the career change. It's
very scary, but I'm super excited.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You're smiling, you already hear as you're talking.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I'm ecstatic about this. I mean, it's like my dream.
It's almost like I still feel like it's a pinch
me moment that I'm like, does this really happening? Am
I living my dream right now?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So filled?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
The last thing is just for women possibly listening and
hear that story. What would you advise folks who do
go off on a vacation meet some guy on a vacation.
We hear stories about meeting folks on cruise lines and
things like that, and yes, people come and think it's
a green car situation or whatever else. What would you
advise women who might meet a guy. Maybe it ain't
for everybody, maybe you got some warnings for some red flags.
(36:59):
But what would you advise folks?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I well, first and foremost, follow your heart, because your
heart knows there are instincts women have instincts. It's a
real thing. And even with my first husband, I knew
that there were a lot of red flags that I ignored.
I knew it from the very beginning, and I ignored
it because I thought that they would change. And if
there are no red flags, if your instincts tell you
that this is the right person for you, then go
(37:22):
with it and take a chance. But also be cautious.
You know, you have to really keep your eyes open,
like what questions are they asking? And they asking you
to send a lot of money? Are you asking you?
Are they asking to support their family? Like do they
really care about you personally? And your heart and your
emotional safety? Like these are the things that you have
to tap into and pay attention to, because that will
tell you whether the person is genuine or if they're
(37:43):
using you.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
All right, And I know you can't tell us the
outcome because the show is still in the middle of
its season. But how hard has it been to keep
it all quiet?
Speaker 4 (37:53):
It's so hard. It's so hard. A lot of people
ask me, even like lots of my friends, distant friends,
you know, some of my friends that I'm close with.
No the outcome, but a lot of distant friends are saying,
You're not going to tell us what happens, and I'm like, no,
you gotta watch.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
It's just it's really hard because it's a big so
you amend your life, how you go out, how you
interact with people and how like that's that's a that's
a huge commitment.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
It is.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
It sure is, because obviously if you're together and you
got married, you can't go out and hang out and
hold hands, and if you broke up, you can't exactly
publicly be dating other people because then that would be
obviously you're kind of just.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, I'm just existing as Marissa right now. I don't
know what's happening. I don't know what happens in my life.
Oh my goodness, I'll have to watch the show to
find out.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, Marisa, thank you so much. I can not even
tell you how fun it has been to get to
know you, to get to hear what actually happens behind
the scenes, and to be rooting for you. Thank you,
whether it's with Edward or not, it's been wonderful to
get to know you. And I know you've inspired a
lot of folks who are listening.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Oh I appreciate that. Thank you and you guys are
so amazing. I loved having a moment with you guys.
Thank you so much fun here.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Today, well, thank you, thank you, and to our listeners
here you can check out ninety Day Fiance Sundays eight
pm on TLC and streaming next day on HBO Max.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
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